Up and coming trends

[Anonymous No.8240053]

So Madonna crowns, veils, and peignoirs are on the way out. What are some trends you've been seeing that are picking up, what would you like to see more of, etc?

I've been seeing a lot of overskirts, overdresses, scepters, and crowns and I love it.

[Anonymous No.8240056]

>>8240053
Not dressing like shit would be a good trend.

[Anonymous No.8240058]

>>8240053
I wanna see more of the giant staffs/scepters and lots of wands and some crowns (not the tiny ones, but proper full size crowns as opposed to tiaras)

I don't think veils are on the way out though anon, they still seem really popular but Im still fairly new to lolita so I can't exactly predict trends from experience.

[Anonymous No.8240063]

>>8240053
I would like to see someone wear a vase full of flowers as a head piece, because why the fuck not.

[Anonymous No.8240069]

More OTT Gothic coords. I think it's gothic's turn and I love the veils, scepters/staves and adventurous Headwear but where are the amazing gothic coords that could use these elements so well!

[Anonymous No.8240071]

>>8240053
Oh no, if scepters and crowns are making a comeback then I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing is himecut

[Anonymous No.8240073]

>>8240056
Agreed. We should find a way to sensationalize it so all the bandwagon itas will want to try bathing, combing their hair, wearing makeup, and color coordinating.

[Anonymous No.8240078]

>>8240071
I would love to see the return of the hime haircut. Since wigs are a bigger thing than they were back when hime cuts were cool, I think a lot more people will be able to make them look nice. That once French girl who did stuff for kawaii international comes to mind, she had a haircut that was a sort of modern nod to the hime.

[Anonymous No.8240088]

>>8240078
this girl

[Anonymous No.8240172]

>>8240063
See, this gull has the right idea.

[Anonymous No.8240200]

>>8240058
I agree, I don't think veils are on the way out either.

[Anonymous No.8240218]

>>8240053
Full size obnoxious scepters seem to be coming in style. Veils are not on the way out at all. Everything is becoming more costumey and more classic so I think it's only a matter of time until people start wearing royalty capes.

Maybe in a couple of years OTT anything will be slowly out and we will get simpler styles back.

[Anonymous No.8240220]

>>8240053
Perfumes as a part of the coord. I'm allergic to most perfumes, so this will be hell for me.
On the other hand, con stank.

[Anonymous No.8240221]

A little OT but does anyone have a diy tutorial for making scepters like OP's pic? I've been wanting to make one.

[Anonymous No.8240222]

>>8240218
>royalty capes
Don't give them ideas. I can totally see this becoming a thing

[Anonymous No.8240226]

>>8240221
Step 1: Get a stick
Step 2: Find something pretty to glue on top
Step 3: Decorate

[Anonymous No.8240229]

Genuinely think oldschool is on the rise again. I feel like a lot of us are so sick to death of the OTT fad that the simple, clean elegance of oldschool is a breath of fresh air.

At least that's the sense I'm getting from the second hand market. I was snapping up plenty of pre-2007 pieces for cheap a year or two ago, now people seem to be all over anything old and/ or velvet before I can get in there.

[Anonymous No.8240244]

>>8240222
I could see it being cute if they did them as capelets made from rich fabrics with that spotted ermine trim stuff, but definitely not full-length capes. The heaviness of the fabric would mess with the poof and anything too light would look cheap and/or mess with the silhouette like peignoirs did.

I wouldn't mind if they released coats inspired by stuff like pic related though, that would be nice.

[Anonymous No.8240251]

I've seen pastel-y sweet make a bit of a comeback. Maybe it's because people are already nostalgic for it. Then again, it might be seasonal. I just feel like the past year or two have been a lot more classic-centered. I feel like I've just seen sweet coords more recently.

[Anonymous No.8240260]

>>8240244
With the way the lolita scene is now - everyone trying to out OTT and one up each other I can seriously see at least one annoying person doing the full cape.

[Anonymous No.8240261]

I've been saying for months that capes are next.
Veils are at their peak now, scepters are rising, I think scepters will evolve into other large handheld props.

I've been pondering lately what would be the next big trend. One I've been considering is taxidermy. It has all the prerequisites

> controversial
> antiques/one of a kind
> unexpected

People have been using animal skulls in jewelry and hair accessories for a while, why not put a whole taxidermy squirrel or rabbit on there? lolitas love that dichotomy of taking something morbid, adding cuteness, and making it weird.

What other ideas? Armor - leather or even metal accent pieces like bracers or helms.

On that note, I want to see brands do historical themed prints, Greek mythology with Greek cuts (like the krad? Medias dress). Egyptian themes, or Victorian-Egyptian themes (ala The Mummy). I also want rich vibrant jewel tones that are NOT velvet/velveteen. I'm tired of washed out/mottled prints and dull colors.

[Anonymous No.8240267]

>>8240261
I agree about the large props. Prepare your balls everyone.

[Anonymous No.8240269]

>>8240251
I'm starting to gain a new appreciation for sweet now that OTT and borderline hime classic are booming. It's totally backwards but I feel like wearing cute pastel stuff is somehow more mature then literally dressing up like make believe royalty.

[Anonymous No.8240274]

>>8240261
there's a girl who I've seen with actual dead bird wings on her head at a few lolita events, not sure if cool or gross

Capes are a weird one. I have two in my closet and neither of them works with the lolita silhouette. The only kind I can see working are tiny capes that just about cover the shoulder.

[Anonymous No.8240276]

>>8240088
>>8240078
Yeeeea. I really love the updo. I wish lolitas would embrace updos.

[Anonymous No.8240282]

>>8240276
Me too! but >uuuugggghhh you can't wear your hair like that! you need more volume to balance out your poofy skirt

[Anonymous No.8240284]

>>8240261

I have a fox stole I've been wanting to work into a classic coord. I feel like stoles and more fur trim elements are definitely workable (and vintage chic!), but I would be creeped out by like, a taxidermy animal headdress or something else.

[Anonymous No.8240287]

>>8240282
Not necessarily. You just can't do OTT really well with a bun.
(unless they're huge mahou-shoujo buns)

[Anonymous No.8240289]

>>8240053
this sounds like hell

[Anonymous No.8240293]

Its already happening, but full size long dresses. Maybe eventually dragging on the floor dresses.

[Anonymous No.8240312]

Old school and ouji
I like crowns and scepters but I really don't want to see everyone doing them.

[Anonymous No.8240327]

An anon brought it up a while ago but I think it'd be hilarious to see OTT country with an entire cornucopia of fruits and vegetables and wheat and a corn stalk scepter or some shit like some sort of deranged harvest queen.

[Anonymous No.8240331]

i miss ero

not even sorry

[Anonymous No.8240335]

>>8240327
That would be kinda cute for halloween

[Anonymous No.8240338]

>>8240260
They already have, pretty sure I saw a Grazia coord with a cape already and weren't there 2 girls with sparkly/chiffon capes at a recent event that cgl was nitpicking at?

[Anonymous No.8240376]

>>8240338
Oh ffs its already started...

[Anonymous No.8240385]

>>8240078
>Look in mirror last night.
>Perfect hime cut.
>Where the fuck did that come from?
>Remember that I'd let my bangs grow out and only cut much thinner ones last time.

I never asked to be this kawaii.

[Anonymous No.8240393]

Maybe it's just me, but outside of cons, I haven't seen that much OTT stuff? It seems like most seagulls hate that kind of thing with a passion, but I have to disagree when people start talking about how OTT is going to take over the fashion and make us all look bad. For every overly-costumey convention coord, there's hundreds of toned-down, everyday wear coords worn to comm events and such. I certainly think there's a time and place for OTT, but I also don't like seeing girls get torn apart for adding trendy props to their coord.
>trying to fight my weakness for crowns and scepters

[Anonymous No.8240417]

>>8240327
I want to do this

[Anonymous No.8240429]

>>8240385
>pic related
it's anon

[Anonymous No.8240450]

>>8240284

This has been done, a long, long time ago, by this one girl who wore some fur stoles she received from her grandmother or something. She basically got shat on because someone kicked up a fuss about animal cruelty, but it didn't help that her attitude towards the issue was quite cavalier (she didn't care), and she didn't even look particularly good to boot (the more she got shat on the more fur she piled on, until there was this one photo where she was basically holding up what seems to be multiple dead animal skin, you could barely see her lolita dress under it).

[Anonymous No.8240458]

>>8240276
>>8240282

I really want updos to become a thing, so that I can at least follow other people's tutorials on how to do a decent one.

It's true that you need a slightly poofy updo to properly balance out the look, otherwise you look somewhat pinheaded. That's why it's so hard to make a normal updo work with lolita, I really want to know how to create updos that work with lolita.

[Anonymous No.8240464]

>>8240393

I'm actually pretty sure most of the hate is because most seagulls are on tumblr, and seeing the same OTT coord being reblogged by multiple people several times a day while their own less OTT coord gets ignored.

[Anonymous No.8240472]

>>8240393
I honestly think a huge part of it is that the super OTT coords get posted/photographed more in public spaces than the more "casual" wear from say...tea meets. We have a pretty active comm and honestly, outside of conventions, no one pulls out all the stops.

I think full-size crowns and caplets are on their way in. I love giant props (scepters, whatever) for OTT, so I'd like to see how creative people can get too. Last but not least, I want to see underskirts and overskirts but embellished. I think that'd be so cute if done well.

[Anonymous No.8240512]

>>8240458
I agree. then maybe people can learn to style their natural hair better than just throwing a wig over and calling it done.

>head chain jewelry.

[Anonymous No.8240522]

>>8240512
prediction #2
>crossing genres

example, ouji with country.

[Anonymous No.8240534]

>>8240522
prediction #3
>aprons /apron skirts

recently I've been hearing a lot of people talking about making "maid lolita" a thing. So my guess is aprons are gonna get a come back.

[Anonymous No.8240540]

>>8240522
ooh, crossing genres is something I can definitely see becoming a thing. especially with the way AP has been slapping crosses/gothic-y details (like those pentacle straps on that one dress) everywhere on sweet prints. at the very least I can see more gothic takes on sweet growing popular, people and brands have already kinda been doing it anyways.

also agree with headchains, been saying it since that one chick on CoF wore one. I think they're a nice elegant touch though, I just hope lots more nice high quality ones come out.

>afraid of the shitty quality regretsy ones we might start seeing though, hopefully it doesn't become that big of a trend

[Anonymous No.8240578]

>>8240540
yeah, I was gonna mention that in the post but totally forgot before I it submit.
I laughed when I saw the cherry dress with lace crosses on it. and joked "they're running out of ideas". but yeah I think it's gonna be a thing.
I personally cross classic with gothic in my own wardrobe.

[Anonymous No.8240580]

[Anonymous No.8240588]

>>8240580
4 predictions in one image.
>full head crowns /almost/
>head chain
>scepter
>cape

[Anonymous No.8240608]

>>8240327
Denim overall salopette. Gingham blouse. Straw hat.

Make it happen, people.

[Anonymous No.8240616]

>>8240608
I feel like it'd just look like a mlp cosplay.
so, no.

[Anonymous No.8240632]

>>8240616
Unless you do it in applejack's colors you'd be fine.
I'm joking anyways.
Although I am in Texas, and have access to land with cows and a tractor nearby, so it'd make for funny pictures.

[Anonymous No.8240667]

>>8240450

Well that sucks. I've wanted a fox stole for ages but insisted on buying vintage (would never buy new, don't want to support that industry by buying new ones). Mine is a little bit difficult to manage because I ended up with a 3-fox-centipede stole. I certainly don't want to be cavalier, but vintage furs are really a moral grey area, in my opinion. I don't really have a problem with re-using and giving a vintage fur some love because at that point it's secondhand. It's more of the "new fur" industry that I definitely don't want to support.

Hopefully if I ever do wear it in a coord I don't get ripped to shreds. I really want a fox dress or some lolita fox tights.

[Anonymous No.8240676]

>>8240667

You're in luck, other lolitas have again beat you to it. After the wank died down on the original fur stole girl, a few more lolitas slowly came out of the woodwork, pointing out that vintage fur is already dead, it doesn't encourage people to go out and kill new animals for it. Some of them pointed out that their fur stoles were beloved family heirlooms, passed down from dead grandmothers, they weren't going to just throw them in the trash, which doesn't help anyone anyway. Someone also pointed out that PETA was really childish as their approach to animal cruelty awareness at that time was to stalk celebrities and then throw red paint over anyone wearing any kind of fur.

Then slowly, one or two lolitas wore just one fur stole with classic dresses, well coorded, and now it's okay to wear fur stoles with lolita again.

I don't think it's ever going to become a big thing, though. Yes, vintage fur doesn't kill new animals, but if it becomes a trend some of the newbies will seek out new fur, not knowing the difference, which means we'll be all awash in fur controversy all over again.

And anyway, fur is pretty hard to coord with. As you can see with your centipeded stole. It's not like animals come in pastel lavender to match a sweet coord, you're pretty much stuck with classic (or goth, if you can find the right fur). The shape isn't the easiest to work with, either, and if you got one of the good quality intact ones, it really does look like some animal died and got stuck around you.

[Anonymous No.8240688]

I'm pretty sure capes are already a thing. I've seen a couple chiffon/organza ones and I'm working on an embroidered chiffon one for a classic coord right now. There was some girl who wore I think DDC with an organza cape and it was gorgeous but I can't find the picture.

[Anonymous No.8240691]

>>8240540
what dress is the pentacle dress

[Anonymous No.8240693]

>>8240691

[Anonymous No.8241058]

>>8240693
Next lolita trend: worshipping Satan and giving him your first born in exchange for moar burando.

[Anonymous No.8241286]

>>8241058
This always happens, I start doing a thing and then everyone else jumps on the bandwagon. Can't just I have brand sacrifices?

[Anonymous No.8241289]

>hats
Hats are there, and there will be more of them. They'll be cute and casual like the hats IW has been putting out, or really big and decorated with tons and tons of fowers, veils and all the other stuff to match your OTT coord. They look nice and are another opportunity for brands to put out expensive slightly overpriced accessoire while the brandwhores can wear another big thing that screams "I have $250 to spend on burando!!"

>crowns
We have all sorts of ridiculous headwear, so why not crowns? Can be small, more hime-ish or historical, paired with veils, etc...

>head chains
They are already almost a thing and they won't go away.

>>8240522
>prediction #2
>>crossing genres
Yes, this too. Especially with the OTT it will be harder and harder to make clear distinctions between Clasic, Sweet and Gothic, but even now brands like P and IW have influence of other substyles in their dresses.

[Anonymous No.8241309]

>>8240464
I think this is so true.

[Anonymous No.8241422]

>>8240220
Yeah, I've seen this get mentioned more and more and I'm allergic too so I'm not looking forward to it if it takes off.

I like smaller sceptres like the one BtSSB released, I just don't like the large or obviously handmade ones. I also really like crowns and tiaras. Mini veils are okay if they fit the coord, but not huge ones. Everything else can gtfo.

>>8240251
This might just be because spring/summer is beginning, but I agree with >>8240269
that I'm beginning to feel nostalgic for it again. I don't think it's mature, but I like it a lot better now than I did when it was actually popular (plus, now it's less popular the price of shit like Sugary Carnival is dropping and dropping, so sweet prints in general are going from a "hahaha nope I don't like it that much and I certianly wouldn't pay that for it" to a "I like that for $100 but I wouldn't pay more" thing). But nostalgia in general fucks with your perception - I find I feel nostalgic for emos and chavs now, even though I resented both when they were actually around, because damn, you just don't ever see guys with super-straightened dyed black hair with a coloured streak and eyeliner, or shell suits and baseball caps with a fag and two litre bottle of cheap cider wandering around that often any more so it's a novelty now.

>>8240261
IIRC fyeahlolita was jokily predicting armour coords a few years ago. I kinda wish it had caught on.

[Anonymous No.8241439]

>>8241422
I have a roller-ball perfume (Big Pink Bow, Sephora Hello Kitty line). I don't have allergies and don't know anyone with them--do you have trouble with roller-ball perfumes?
I'd like to smell nice but I also don't want to make anyone else miserable (usually).

[Anonymous No.8241440]

>>8240540
Yeah, sweet-gothic is definitely on the rise even though it wasn't really something you saw before (people calling black and blackxwhite sweet coords gothic aside). Sweet, sweet-classic, classic, gothic-classic and gothic have all been around forever but sweet-gothic is really taking off now.

[Anonymous No.8241446]

>>8241440

[Anonymous No.8241453]

>>8241446
What rustled your pettis? Was it the excessive use of hyphenated style names? I wouldn't necessarily call a coord "gothic-classic" or whatever, but coords that looked like that have been around forever is what I meant. Whereas sweet prints with crosses and pentagrams and shit is new.

>inb4 butthurt over the fact AP used to release sweet-ish dresses with lace crosses on in like 2002 so obviously I'm an idiot for saying sweet-gothic is newly on the rise

[Anonymous No.8241463]

>>8241422
>Everything else can gtfo.
Except overdresses and overskirts. I mean, they're trending but they've been in lolita forever, so like hats or maid aprons, I'm not gonna say they should just get out. Headchains, madonna crowns, huge veils, huge handmade sceptres, and floor-length peignors need to die though.

>>8241439
I've never actually tried rollerball perfume so I'm not sure. The problem with perfume for me is that over time, the wearer gets used to the smell and applies more and more thinking it's faded, when actually it still smells strong to those around them and eventually they reek of perfume. But a normal application of perfume on someone that I'm not either sat really close to or stuck in an enclosed room with wouldn't be something I'd get butthurt over experiencing at a meet, since it'd probably only bother me slightly.

[Anonymous No.8241466]

>>8241453

[Anonymous No.8241476]

I want to see military loli inspired by that sort of uniforms.

[Anonymous No.8241570]

>>8241476
a-are you me anon?

[Anonymous No.8241590]

I see oldschool and minimalist coords getting bigger as a counter movement to the OTT wave. It would be neat if punk also made a comeback riding on the oldschool wave. I feel there already something going in that direction in Japanese with how popular diamond pattern is and 3F's prints also feel like punk.

[Anonymous No.8241601]

>>8240580
off topic but i know this girl!! she's my ex's good friend.

[Anonymous No.8241615]

>>8240053
I'm the minority and i hate the latest trends, too opulent and OTT for my taste, i'm more a simpler coords person and the religious inspired crap isn't my cup of tea. The only thing i like is sheer blouses, especially if they are only the sleeves.
>tbh the bunny scepter is pretty cute
>>8240251
Well, i think the AP prints i want they are least popular like Fancy Paper Dolls. The more OTT sweet stuff is more popular (chiffon details for example) rather than print centric series i think.
>>8240218
I pray for simple coordinates where the print is the only thing that stand out.
Otherwise, otome is the way for me.
>>8240229
I feel you! I love old school a lot and i want to wear some coords like that one day.

[Anonymous No.8241630]

>>8241476
Please. Anything with a more military or aristocratic feel in lolita gets me weak in the knees.
>just bought the new excentrique corset-vest, so excited

[Anonymous No.8241637]

I feel like maid lolita actually being a thing would be a train wreck. It can be done well but I feel like that'll be a "sub style" that attracts a lot of newbies/itas because it can go very costume-y very quick.

...and personally I don't think it's cute or elegant but that's just my take.

[Anonymous No.8241662]

>>8241615
Compared to what we have seen recently those scepters are quite subdued and UTT.

>>8241630
Congrats you lucky girl. Was it 2nd hand?

Personally I'd love to see more Atelier Boz / Lapin Agill not just worn in Aristocrat or Ouji. They actually put out a lot of lolita items but those seem to be very unpopular out of Japan. Then again that means I can pick stuff up for cheap.

I think we're gonna get an influx of Minori style Shironuri. It goes perfectly with OTT and the obsession with color matching.

[Anonymous No.8241687]

>>8240053
I love full size crowns, scepters, ridiculous flower headpieces, and OTT headwear in general.

I'm not fond of madonna crowns and mantilas, and veils. Madonna crowns already seem to be on their way out though.

I'd like to see someone have a super ott high fashion headpiece like a chandelier headpiece with burning candles.

It's kinda weird because I'm a total basic bitch when it comes to my outfits, but I like the tackiest OTT shit.

[Anonymous No.8241701]

>>8240331
Aside from a few girls here and there and magazine editorials, when was Ero ever done much anyway? I like it too but I'm not sure it was ever enough of a thing to make an actual comeback. It would be cool though, I admit. But only if done very well.

[Anonymous No.8241706]

>>8240458
JetJ has the tutorial to do this updo on their site and a couple of others.

[Anonymous No.8241709]

>>8241701
I just wanna be a slutty loli ok ;n;

[Anonymous No.8241712]

Ouji seems to be seeing a resurgence, and I see a lot of people into jackets and waistcoats. I have definitely been seeing a lot of the more first-wave-trend people (that is to say, people who are usually on the cutting edge of things that later on become ubiquitous) wearing more "masculine" styled Lolita but still in sweet/feminine/pastel colors. The aristo/masculine styling is common in goth and slightly less common in classic but thus far not really seen in sweet - I'd like to see more pastel "princes"

[Anonymous No.8241718]

>>8241687
I'd appreciate something like what you posted. My issue with OTT headdresses and accessories is mostly that they are just not that high in quality nor well designed. Typical low price point etsy stuff or handmade as badly. It's kind of funny seeing girls try to be gorgeous princesses in that kind of quality.

[Anonymous No.8241728]

I hate lolita getting more and more costume-y. At this point there's a lot of outfits that you can no longer defend as fashion and are indeed just a costume. I don't mind a theme to an outfit but it's getting ridic.

[Anonymous No.8241737]

>>8241712
Wow I am really into this coord

[Anonymous No.8241740]

>>8241728
Me too, anon, me too.

[Anonymous No.8241755]

>>8241728
This shit is getting pretty fuckin stupid.

[Anonymous No.8241758]

>>8241712
Sauce on this jacket?

[Anonymous No.8241766]

>>8241662
I don't think shironuri will become a thing.
People will be too worried about getting white make-up on their brand.

[Anonymous No.8241768]

>>8241758
Atelier Boz judging from the design.

I'd gonna agree her too that I really like outerwear in lolita. A lot of the time I see girls running around outside just in a jsk and blouse no matter the weather and it looks odd. I know you can layer to be warm but something's missing.

[Anonymous No.8241770]

I really wish laser cut fabric could be a thing in lolita. If done right, it could be pretty cool.

[Anonymous No.8241793]

>>8240220
I want perfume to take off so badly, but I know people would ruin it by drenching themselves in eau de literal toilet and spraying it in everyone else's faces.

Why can't people just be satisfied wearing a couple drops of subtle, elegant perfume instead of spritzing themselves with some horrendous shit that smells like ethanol instead of any actual scent?

> tl;dr I have a lot of feelings about perfume.

[Anonymous No.8241794]

>>8241712
Before there wasn't really a resource to point people wanting to get into ouji too. But since there's now more of a handbook for it, it got more popular, and the with Palace of Princes it really kicked off.

[Anonymous No.8241796]

>>8241766
I've seen it a surprising amount in the photos for big events though.

>>8241768
Yup! I love the way jackets and waistcoats look. I wish there were more lolita-appropriate sweaters.

[Anonymous No.8241803]

>>8241793
Are you me? I lovelovelove matching my perfumes to my coords. A few drops of a nice perfume oil, or two sprays max of a classy eau de parfum, and I feel it real ties together the entire outfit. But I know the sweet itas would take this as an excuse to douse themselves in cheap hooker cotton candy perfume. It's a real bummer because I find perfume so elegant, and I love talking about it with others.

[Anonymous No.8241808]

I love D&G's S/S15 and I wish there were more lolita things with that style/pallet.
I'm considering buying a few pieces and wearing them with a coord

[Anonymous No.8241811]

>>8241793
It won't take off. Too many lolitas don't care about spending money on something that you can't see and isn't brand. I have a perfume collection and care about it but there's no interest any time I've mentioned it other than the occasional snarky remark about the expense or 'muh allergies'. That said, sometimes I imagine what perfume I'd use when I look at coord pix. No one lists that or anything about their makeup/lashes.

[Anonymous No.8241815]

>>8241811
On the "muh allergies" front: I don't think any other trend will literally make my throat close and kill me if done wrong.

[Anonymous No.8241818]

>>8241811
If I use perfume, I get a rash anywhere sprayed. No matter which fragrance. I guess rashes are super loli and help tie together coords though.

[Anonymous No.8241823]

>>8241637
I don't really want maid lolita so much as I just want aprons and pinafores and tabliers to be a thing again. I'm dying for more lolita mixed with the carefree country look of mori and natural kei, Little House on the Prairie style. Which is weird for me because I've been really enthusiastic about the OTT opulent classic stuff.

>>8241687
>chandelier headpiece with burning candles.
I want to do this but I don't know if I would use actual burning candles. Do you think it would look weird if I used the little electronic ones that look real?

>>8241770
Was thinking of doing a breast plate like Daenerys and mixing it into a coord somehow. Not sure about it though. Pic related on the left

[Anonymous No.8241825]

>>8241823
Do it with a lace pattern?

[Anonymous No.8241826]

>>8241811
I love perfume too anon, I wish i didn't already have too many expensive hobbies so that I could buy more. Yeah, there are the "muh allergies" people - they do have a point but please stop shitting up the thread with it. I'm sorry for your allergies but I really don't care. I want to talk about perfume.

That said I always wondered why brands don't make perfumes. For each year/season/whatever they could make some perfume, put it in a cute bottle matching a theme/print and sell it for lots of money. The perfume probably wouldn't be too awesome (that might take up too much time/money for a small business) but the bottles themselves are an art piece which could easily be sold as a matching item to a popular series.

[Anonymous No.8241828]

>>8241825
That's what I was thinking. That's a lot of worbla to sit and cut though...

[Anonymous No.8241834]

>>8241823
Don't do one with a keyhole for the boobs though, it's too immodest for lolita.

[Anonymous No.8241836]

>>8241826
I wish they would to. Mana-sama made some MMM lipsticks, I wish he'd done an EGL perfume! I think brand perfume would be very light and either sweet/fruity, fruit/floral or floral/sweet. Sugar and berries, roses and vanilla, etc. I agree the bottles could be really nice! Misako did a scented skincare spray but it was not sold in the US or for export. It's too bad.

[Anonymous No.8241841]

>>8241815
not allergic but perfume aggravates my migraines. hate it because i used to love nice scents but now anything strong can lead to head throbbing vomit time. as long as the wearer keeps it subtle (no stronger than a shampoo aftersmell for example) it tends not to be too bad for me.

[Anonymous No.8241844]

>>8241815
No one said you need to use it. Also, I do not scent-bomb, I use a very light hand with perfume when I wear lolita. I think that's pretty much all you can expect. Should I also not order shrimp quiche if my table-mate is allergic? If it's a problem, you'd have same problem around anyone else in the general public. Most lolitas go light on fragrance.

[Anonymous No.8241846]

>>8241728
the solution is to use OTT for special events... either costumey (convention, masquerade) or higher than the most high tea.

[Anonymous No.8241847]

>>8241834
I agree, it will probably be the same shape, just minus the keyhole.

[Anonymous No.8241850]

>>8241846
That's what people do. Everyone here freaks out about how OTT is taking over. Calm down, OTT has been around for ages. Sweet had just as many costumey OTT trends that people got butthurt about too. I honestly like the classic OTT better because there's a lot of interesting things that came from historical fashion. But simple everyday coords are just as abundant, they just don't get the same attention, which is to be expected. People like seeing the extravagant coords from big tea parties and conventions. JFC how new are you people?

[Anonymous No.8241855]

>>8240534
I hope so, I love aprons.

[Anonymous No.8241857]

>>8240534
>maid lolita
but isn't that like counter intuitive?

[Anonymous No.8241860]

>>8241850
I think part of it's lolitas on /cgl/ that aren't in comms/are too salty to attend many meets/are too new for meets. Anyone who attends meets can tell OTT hasn't taken over IRL, only people who measure the state of lolita by what gets the most tumblr reblogs not what the most people wear think that.

[Anonymous No.8241861]

i predict ouji substyles becoming canonized in the west. they will mirror more the lolita substyles (classic, goth, sweet) and some common ouji themes (pirate mostly) will increase in popularity on the lolita side as well.


ouji will have its glimmering day in the sun, and furthuremore will be the only jfash you can expect to find on anyone of any gender identity, though cismales will be doing mostly their own thing.

[Anonymous No.8241875]

>>8241794
Yeah the PoP really helped out. And they know it. They know it so well that they're selling buttons with their faces on them.

[Anonymous No.8241879]

>>8241860
I hadn't thought about this but you're right. No one in the 3 comms I've gone out with wears OTT for various meets, just for cons. I didn't think about people judging just by what they see on the net. Internet Lolitas. I keep forgetting they are a thing.

[Anonymous No.8241900]

>>8241879
Exactly. What efamous lolitas and people at brand tea parties wear =/= what most lolitas wear to meets. Except maybe in certain comms in Straya (granted, my perceptions of the Australian comms are probably skewed by Deerstalker, but overall Australian lolitas seem pretty rich because of the exchange rate and high wages over there, plus the fact Oz evaded the recession).

[Anonymous No.8241931]

>>8241709
>slutty loli
um, do you even know what ero loli is? 'cause you sound like an ita. Just because it's erotic doesn't mean your tits and vag are hanging out. The lolita rules and modesty still apply in Ero.

>>8241718
You mean like pic related.
I normally like sweetmildred's stuff but this is hideous.

>>8241796
What does an "lolita-appropriate sweater" look like prey-tell?

>>8241823
I think the fake candle would be cute if done well and with the right dress.

[Anonymous No.8241935]

>>8241796
I don't know but I want them. Brand have released turtlenecks with lace around the collar and cuffs before.

[Anonymous No.8241938]

>>8241931
Someone's getting ready for that daisy dress, I bet. Kek.

[Anonymous No.8241949]

>>8241931
Yeah god like that. I saw this post on tumblr where a girl was holding this incredibly obvious plastic flower and they took close ups and everything. It looked like they just bought it at the dollar store and it wasn't even a dollar.

[Anonymous No.8241976]

>>8240580
And yet this coord is terribly boring when you take away the Halloween costume bits. Really a good example of how the trends can lead to overall not very good coords.

>>8241476
This. Meta does it best with stuff like the Sheryl Macross collab set, and Excentrique is getting more popular, but I want more.

>>8241808
D&G has been popular with lolitas ever since they started riding the baroque train a couple years ago, though. I think that really contributed to the OTT classic wave.

[Anonymous No.8242029]

>>8241949
i need that skullface mask omg

[Anonymous No.8242076]

>>8241823
>>chandelier headpiece with burning candles.

[Anonymous No.8242087]

>>8242076

[Anonymous No.8242093]

>>8241931
Ero stands for erotic.

Making a traditional lolita coord erotic. Yes there's rules and whatnot, but seriously chill. It's a slutty substyle.

[Anonymous No.8242094]

>>8242087
I'd be surprised if no Sweloli have made a Lucia coord.

[Anonymous No.8242117]

>>8241453
The word you're looking for is bittersweet.

[Anonymous No.8242122]

>>8242117
No it's not? Because bittersweet is sweet dresses in blackxpastel colourways, not any mixture of sweet and gothic. Holy Lantern in red for example, is a sweet cut with a somewhat gothic, somewhat sweet print, but the colourway is not bittersweet.

[Anonymous No.8242123]

>>8242094
Every year since i joined lolita around December I anticipate someone posting a St. Lucia coord somewhere, so far nothing.

It'd be such an easy coord to do too. Solid white dress with red wais ribbon and the wreath+candles.

[Anonymous No.8242128]

>>8242122
crosses /= gothic, anon.

[Anonymous No.8242132]

>>8242117
Lol what? Bittersweet is purely sweet dresses in a black colourway. Putting pentagrams and shit on sweet dresses deserves to be considered in some way a crossover style.

[Anonymous No.8242135]

>>8242117
Bittersweet isn't a thing. It never was and its even less a thing to say now. God I hate that term.

[Anonymous No.8242136]

>>8242123
It would really be beautiful. I'd love to see that.

[Anonymous No.8242141]

>>8242132
When it was floating around in tumblrland, girls were mixing sweet black prints with eyeball bows and the chinziest hot topic shit, just because they've swapped eyeballs for goat heads doesn't mean a damn thing.
>>8242128
This.

[Anonymous No.8242143]

>>8242128
>most gothic motif in existence besides skulls
>not gothic

ok.

[Anonymous No.8242144]

big hunky men here

instasync com/rooms/gains

[Anonymous No.8242147]

>>8242128
But birdcages, chandeliers, candelabra, and bat wings are, though. Also the corset lacing and decorative zippers in the front of the JSK are a lot edgier than your average sweet fare.

[Anonymous No.8242148]

>>8242144
no fit, pls go.
I am coming in there solely to shit up your chat now.

[Anonymous No.8242150]

>>8241879
Mmmmm I wouldn't quite say people in my comm dress Ott, but they certainly are an accessory or two away

[Anonymous No.8242152]

>>8241818
If you suspect it's the alcohol in the perfume, you might want to try out perfume oils. There are a bunch of indie brands online like BPAL and ZOMG Smells that sells sets of samples, so that you can try stuff out before buying a full bottle. If even the samples don't work out for you, you can try selling them on eBay; used samples and bottles seem to be there all the time.

[Anonymous No.8242154]

>>8242148
good luck. i dont think its possible to make it any more shit

[Anonymous No.8242155]

>>8242093
Erotic =/= slutty
That's exactly why most ero lolita coord attempts fail.

[Anonymous No.8242157]

>>8242122
>>8242132
>>8242135
did any of you read the file name

[Anonymous No.8242160]

>>8242157
Heh, oops. They got me. Yummy bait was too yummy.

[Anonymous No.8242162]

>>8242155
erotic is slutty though.

[Anonymous No.8242168]

>>8242162
I hope you are trolling and not really this stupid. If you are wanting to do any kind of 'slutty lolita' thing then just pls go. No substyle of lolita fashion has anything to do with sluttiness.

[Anonymous No.8242195]

>>8241476
I would kill for more military lolita stuff, they are my absolute favorite kind of coords!

[Anonymous No.8242202]

>>8242168
Ero does.
also
>being that mad
I wasn't even posting in the thread before it, but saying erotic isn't slutty is stupid. It's slutty, just faux 'classy'-slutty. It's to make girls feel less like cheap whores for taking their clothes off.

[Anonymous No.8242207]

>>8242154
AH FUCK YOU I DONT WANT TO BE BANNED YOU PIECE OF SHIT.

[Anonymous No.8242212]

>>8242160
I'm honestly surprised that people are still taking the bittersweet bait

[Anonymous No.8242219]

>>8242202
REAL Ero mostly consists of erotic materials, like pleather, leather, vinyl, rubbery type stuff, and lace. But the most it'll go to is jsk without blouses (only shoulders showing, not tits), bloomers with no skirt, and high heals instead of teaparties. Maybe a little negligee-ish. But the modesty rules are still there. or else why even call it lolita?!

[Anonymous No.8242291]

>>8242212
I guess it's because the few sweet items I have are in black colorways only and I've never thought it was a good term. Maybe people WILL only use it ironically forevermore now. I can hope.

[Anonymous No.8242321]

>>8241949
The one on the right is awesome. Sauce?

I hate it when people cheap out on the accessories. A beautiful headpiece can make the difference between a meh and god tier coord.

[Anonymous No.8242323]

>>8242321
I think the cheaping out is why some people don't like some of the DIY OTT. Some of it looks really nice but much of it is just kind of tacky too.

[Anonymous No.8242325]

>>8242094
>>8242087
>>8242076
These are pretty nice, I knew I'd seen this before but I couldn't remember what it was called. I think with smaller candles (or LED candles lest you set yourself on fire), and more details this would be so cute in a christmas or themed coord.

[Anonymous No.8242329]

>>8242202
If you think eroticism is the same as being slutty then you're stupid and I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.8242330]

>>8240244
Don't encourage them, Anon. You know someone is going to show up with that goddamn Dalmatian looking spotted fur shit from JoAnns if they do this kind of thing.

[Anonymous No.8242333]

>>8242323
Agreed. The madonna crowns that were literally spray painted skewers made me cringe so hard.

[Anonymous No.8242347]

>>8242333
Oh come on now...
Mine were zip ties!
:^)

[Anonymous No.8242495]

>>8242202
How fucking new are you anon?

[Anonymous No.8242541]

This has it all.
> Crown
> Gold shoes
> Chiffon over dress thing
> Scepter
> Veil

It's cute, but rustling my jimmies a bit.

[Anonymous No.8242557]

>>8241857
No, Milky Ange has been doing that ever since they exist besides Nun Lolita.

[Anonymous No.8242584]

>>8240088
oh my gosh that headpiece is amazing

[Anonymous No.8243138]

>>8240534
I hope so, I love aprons, especially heart aprons

[Anonymous No.8243192]

>>8242141
Why are so many anons getting this wrong lately? That was creepycute.
Bittersweet is a much older term. I'm not saying it's a real style, but at least people should know what they are bitching about.

[Anonymous No.8243218]

>>8242584
it's just 2 musee du chocolat head dresses stacked together
agree it looks really amazing on her though

>http://lolibrary.org/apparel/musee-du-chocolat-head-dress

[Anonymous No.8243254]

>>8242150
I think your comm could be an exception. I don't think most are this way. I'd really enjoy a comm that is this way though, I admit. Picnic/cafe casual clothing for meets is more common and it's not as fun to me.

[Anonymous No.8243258]

>>8242541
This would be so perfect and elegant if she ditched that purse.

[Anonymous No.8243277]

I think OTT in general just looks cheesy if the details aren't also great. Beautiful makeup and lashes, clothing unwrinkled and well fitted, wigs styled very well, shoes polished and unscuffed.

OTT Sweet gets away with a lot of plastic accessories because so much of the Sweet brand accessories are resin/plastic and usually it is a slightly less mature style overall but this is a fail point in OTT Classic sometimes and really looks cheap. Ditto for inexpensive fabric/ribbon/trims and cheap fake flowers, there's a glaring quality difference and I'm seeing the craft store quality stuff pop up a lot.
Yes, we can tell.
Millinery supplies and real silk/silk velvet fabric, good trims and gorgeous fake flowers exist, they are just often expensive, expensive to ship or if scouring eBay, take time to find. But that's the level of DIY item components that would look fitting for OTT classic or gothic.

[Anonymous No.8243499]

>>8242347
gross.

[Anonymous No.8243507]

>>8243277
OTT classic and gothic seems to be really gaining speed at the moment.

On that note, I'm about to introduce intricate/OTT hair pieces to my Etsy (not necessarily lolita-specific.)
>Ordered 20 base barrettes on Taobao.
>Didn't realize that it was 30c for 2, not 1.
>Mfw I paid $6 for 40 barrettes.


Any suggestions for specific things or themes you guys would like to see?

[Anonymous No.8243533]

>>8242141
Was gonna jump all over this but >>8243192 did it for me.

[Anonymous No.8243544]

>>8240058
You mean you want childish princess dress up costumes to come in trend?

[Anonymous No.8243572]

>>8243507
Something not built on a cheap TaoBao base barrette for starters. But that's just me.

[Anonymous No.8243590]

>>8243507
Try to sew as many as possible together.

[Anonymous No.8243613]

>>8240512
I hope this takes off

[Anonymous No.8243621]

>>8243572
But anon, where do you think all barrettes are made in the beginning?

[Anonymous No.8243636]

>>8243613
I don't, I actually fucking hate head chain jewlery in lolita coords. In an Indian bridal outfit, fine. In a lolita coord, it's way too flat to fit in.

Surprised the trend has even took off on tumblr despite muh cultural appropriation.

[Anonymous No.8243639]

>>8243621
The three I have are fabric covered and made in France, they aren't those hair pulling cheap metal spring clip thingies.

[Anonymous No.8243649]

>>8241976
>if you remove the interesting part of this coord it's not as interesting

[Anonymous No.8243675]

>>8240580
Does anyone know where she got those shoes?

[Anonymous No.8243709]

>>8243649
I know what she means though, girl's using plain white tights.

[Anonymous No.8243717]

>>8243709
>>8243649
The focus is on the costume bits, of course it will look plain without. Why must a coord only be good if its a clusterfuck and riddled with "muh detail" eye cancer?

[Anonymous No.8243741]

>>8243649
>>8243717
But that's exactly the point. The interesting parts excepting Grazia itself look like kiddie costume pieces and everything else is a snooze. Plain white tights, seriously? It's a terrible coord.

[Anonymous No.8243752]

>>8241440
I'll not mind the term sweet-gothic if we can have more dresses like Celestial and Mercator. I think lucky key is just classic though. Victorian tassel = ?

It was a good winter last year, I don't expect anything similar to those again until maybe autumn at the earliest. Too bad.

[Anonymous No.8243770]

>>8243741
You can't just take away the accessories and then complain what's left is too simple. This is one of the few coords using OTT accessories for exactly that reason. Because she is wearing plain white tights instead of something busy with another bunch of crowns on it.

[Anonymous No.8243776]

>>8243770
>This is one of the few coords using OTT accessories I like for exactly that reason.
correction

[Anonymous No.8243984]

>>8243770
This. I feel like it's stupid that I have to say, but obviously an OTT coord is going to be plain if you take the OTT accessories away. Why complain about the plain tights? I mean for god's sake, anything else would be too busy. I think it's a perfect example of an OTT coord that isn't just a mashup of a bunch of stupid trends. It's precise and lovely.

[Anonymous No.8243992]

>>8243636
>implying only Indians wear head jewellery

[Anonymous No.8244075]

>>8243992
Head chain jewelry that looks like that is an exclusively South Asian thing.

[Anonymous No.8244196]

>>8241828

You could probably just do it with actual lace. Soak it in a glue solution, lay it over a form/etc.

[Anonymous No.8244520]

>>8241728
I honestly blame conventions and the strong influence of cosplay.

[Anonymous No.8245749]

>>8244196
Wouldn't it get folds and wrinkles in it around the curves of the breast, etc?

[Anonymous No.8245831]

>>8243770
But you don't seem to understand the point about the accessories themselves, which is they are bad and only piled on for trendiness. They look cheap and do not work with a lolita coord, and would not work or get the pass if the trend was not a thing.

[Anonymous No.8245916]

Lolita evolving into magical girls? Use your power of love to fight evil?

[Anonymous No.8245923]

>>8245916
scepters are not magical girl wands. you're looking for those tumblr idiots who think that mahou-kei is a thing.

[Anonymous No.8247007]

>>8240261
>Egyptian themes, or Victorian-Egyptian themes (ala The Mummy). I also want rich vibrant jewel tones that are NOT velvet/velveteen. I'm tired of washed out/mottled prints and dull colors.

Are you me? These are both things I'm desperately hoping will happen.

[Anonymous No.8247102]

I think this year the OTT-'Classic' trend will just continue to rise.

Most of the old sweet girls have moved onto classic because they're older and thus think they have to 'mature' their look, but are used to over accessorizing from their sweet days, that's where all this veil/crosses/crown shit is coming from, sweets are easy to accessorize (candy, cookies, animals, etc.), but with more mature prints you're pretty limited to typical themes so they're stuck with flowers, jewels and then the stereotype of religious imagery.

As many have already said in this thread, I think we're going into fully lined capelets (capes will cover the silhouette and thus not work), crowns, scepters, maybe even swords/daggers (guarantee you will be those medieval themed letter openers) for the 'edgy' lolitas. I was always surprised antique books never took off as props, they come in a myriad of colors and Art Nouveau book covers were always beautifully done.

[Anonymous No.8247153]

As a guy I love girls who are into lolita, but the veil and scepter stuff I ain't digging it.

[Anonymous No.8247165]

>>8247153
No lolita gives a shit about any man's opinion on the fashion, nor is anyone trying to impress any guys. Gtfo

[Anonymous No.8248159]

>>8247102

What would you *do* with them, though? The book covers, I mean. They're too big to pile onto heads, not everyone can be bothered to DIY them into clutches, plus there's a bunch of burando book-shaped bags already.

[Anonymous No.8248165]

>>8248159
Teach lolis how to walk with class?

[Anonymous No.8248255]

>>8245923
> Implying Mahou-kei isn't a thing

[Anonymous No.8248261]

>>8247153
And we care why?

[Anonymous No.8248395]

>>8241803
>two sprays
>eau de parfum

Whoah there, fragrant one. One spray of that concentration, touched to your pulse points, is more than enough. Eau de toilette/cologne is maybe okay, but two sprays of concentrated perfume and you'll be smellable from space.

[Anonymous No.8248399]

>>8241841
I feel you, anon. Especially Poison or anything Thierry Muglier, that shit's like green kryptonite to me.
Doesn't help that the majority of people who wear those scents seem to have busted pallets, so they apply so much that they leave a trail behind them like the scent equivalent of a Tron light-cycle.

That would be my only qualm about perfume becoming a trend. Meetups could potentially become nauseating, even when the unshowered itas are completely absent.

[Anonymous No.8248402]

>>8240458
+1000 for updos, espescially with pretty hair clips/pins.

[Anonymous No.8248417]

>>8243770
>>8243741
idk whats wrong with your monitors those are printed tights

[Anonymous No.8248988]

>>8247102
>Most of the old sweet girls have moved onto classic because they're older and thus think they have to 'mature' their look, but are used to over accessorizing from their sweet days, that's where all this veil/crosses/crown shit is coming from, sweets are easy to accessorize (candy, cookies, animals, etc.), but with more mature prints you're pretty limited to typical themes so they're stuck with flowers, jewels and then the stereotype of religious imagery.
I actually think this is a big part of why, holy shit. Obviously it's not the only factor though, since people that have always been into classic or are new to the fashion do this too. /cgl/ spending a while back there calling any plain coord ita, and the prevalence of smartphones and cameras causing people to out-compete each other online are also factors.

[Anonymous No.8248998]

>>8248988
Seconding. That anon hit it right on the head.

[Anonymous No.8249293]

>>8248988
Yeah, I feel like nowadays it's expected that if you upload it online it has to be 'perfect' or that OTT lolita look which has become the norm.

IMO people are taking lolita too far out of the wearable fashion category, if you don't look like some weirdo in a peignoir and veil and a bunch of crosses they think you didn't try hard enough.

But then if you look at 90% of fashion blogs and they post a WAYWT look, a lot of times it's just jeans and a nice top. And I think lolitas have forgotten that that is possible. Just wearing a cute skirt with a cutsew, shoes and a necklace with nice hair can look amazing, especially if you are just going shopping or are trying to incorporate lolita into an everyday wardrobe. It feels like now, unless it's OTT you get told off to add more shit or you get told it's not lolita, it's otome???

[Anonymous No.8249305]

>>8249293
>IMO people are taking lolita too far out of the wearable fashion category,

This so much. Most of the stuff posted online these days is just flat out costumey. And it's annoying because so many girls are starting to call regular lolita 'toned down' lolita, and speaking like this crazy OTT shit is the norm. It's so jarring to look at old school, or even stuff from just five years ago, and compare it to the current trends.

[Anonymous No.8249393]

>>8249305
>And it's annoying because so many girls are starting to call regular lolita 'toned down' lolita

Or downright Ita. Apparently if you don't have a split wig, seven hundred accessories, eight thousand bows and seven petticoats you're ita. I've seen girls get bitched out for an A line petticoat.

[Anonymous No.8250024]

>>8240458
For it to be balanced, does an updo have to be super puffy up top? The "problem" is just how flat they look from the front, right?

[Anonymous No.8250029]

>>8249393
I agree. People need to understand that different occasions call for different levels of poof, too. If I'm going to grab a small bite of lunch with a friend, I'm not going to be decked out in layers of petticoats like I would at an event or meetup.

[Anonymous No.8250042]

>>8250024
I think adding volume with bows or flower clips really helps to solve this problem. Ditto if you have longer bangs that you can blow out to nice volume.

[Anonymous No.8250047]

>>8242541
I love the chiffon overskirts (the waist ruffle) so I hope those stick around. I like the way this was pulled off in general though.

[Anonymous No.8250048]

>>8250024

It needs to look good from all angles, unless you're only using it for a photoshoot. So I'd say it needs to look puffier from all angles, not just the front.

[Anonymous No.8250858]

>>8250042

idunno, seems like it has the potential to get weird if you don't exactly know what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.8250887]

Has anyone done a kokoshnik yet?

>>8240071
I'd be okay with this.
>>8241476
Also this.

>>8241058
Girl you are so late to the party.

>>8241709
>not knowing about flirty lolita

>>8241728
I don't really like it either. If it were just a convention thing I'd be okay with it but girls in my comm are starting to bust out the veils and scepters for regular tea house meetups and it's so awkward to see them fuss around trying not to dip part of their outfit into their tea. One time a girl asked me to hold her scepter while she went to the bathroom. Sure.

[Anonymous No.8251121]

>>8249393
I blame this on the newer girls who jumped in when OTT sweet was at its height. I used to wear lolita to school and the only time I got recognized as lolita was when I was wearing a sweet print with a twintail wig and a stupid amount of accessories. It became the standard, stereotypical, recognizable look and newer lolitas were quick to believe that anything less was ita, and being ita is the biggest thing they all fear to the point of ignorance.

There's also the good ol' fame factor. Now that lolita is so widely accessible, you have to work pretty hard to stand out amongst the crowd. Unless you just post generic trendy outfits from your giant burando closet every single day a la Kate, or take the time to make video or blog content that is unique, relevant, and helpful to the community like Lor and Caro, you don't really have a chance at becoming well known in the lolita community until you pull some crazy OTT stunt that will get your picture passed around in threads for ages to come. People mistakenly see lolita as their gateway to fame.

[Anonymous No.8251155]

>>8251121
Couldn't have said it better myself. I can see the appeal to having a large online following and it can be a good way to make friends/get admirers, but it's become painfully obvious that too many lolitas are just in to the OTT looks solely to get noticed. I mean, it's okay to want attention--the fashion is going to get you noticed no matter what--but I can see where girls like Milkyfawn are coming from when they say it's just become a competition to out-do each other.

Don't get me wrong, I love the creative aspects of it. I love handmade crowns (Mila's at AM was amazing!) and I do admire the effort so many lolitas put into their coords... But the overwhelming amount of costume-y coords, especially for things outside of cons, just makes me sad.