New Lolita General

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New Lolita General Anonymous Wed Mar 25 13:55:01 2015 No.8205254 [Reply] [Original]

Old one in autosage.

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 13:56:17 2015 No.8205259

>>8201043
I've sold stuff to newbs in my comm for cheaper than the market value before. It works out as a good deal all round; I get to avoid the hassle of putting it for sale online and potentially waiting weeks for it to sell, and they get a deal $10-20 cheaper than current market value.

>>8203784
I would have liked to see price pointed out too, it's not clear when it's just totals. Price pointed out would make the composition messy.

>>8203969
I'm that anon and it's really just what >>8204620 said. My everyday bag is a rucksack and I've had quite a lot of £8-15 ones over the years and they don't hold up to heavy use and end up tearing within a few months, so I spend more nowadays. My current shoes were £120 but they're leather and they've lasted two and a half years, were resoled once.. I don't buy shoes from charity shops as I've never seen a non-occasion pair that weren't already heavily worn by the time they were donated (and I work in one), but a lot of my other clothing is either bought cheaply from charity shops or given to me as a gift by a relative who loves car boot sales and bargain hunting.

>>8204187
I'd never heard of Maple so thanks for the tip!

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:07:41 2015 No.8205572

>>8205259
This makes me wonder how many of you don't give a shit about fashion Or just your daily style outside of lolita?

Personally I got interested into lolita over "normal" Japanese fashion like Yojji Yamaoto, Julius, then Alice Auaa, soon hNaoto, Boz, Motie and Meta. I never bought any of the high fashion brands but an average outfit in summer will always hit $100 and way more in winter with leather shoes and coats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:27:06 2015 No.8205622 How do you make a dress fit smaller when the "lacing" on the back is utterly useless or there's no lacing at all? I've got a bunch of pieces that I've found are too big after losing a bit of weight.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:36:59 2015 No.8205651 >>8205254 Where can I find those Shoes? I saw them on Bodyline but they are out of stock.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:44:18 2015 No.8205668 >>8205200 Add darts, they're eaay to remove if you want to sell.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:46:18 2015 No.8205673 >>8205651 Meta has similar.

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:47:42 2015 No.8205677

>>8205572
I'm the OP and I like a bunch of other styles but since I'm usually in a hurry, have to adherents a smartish casuap dresscode and have to leave the house at 7:15am my daily wear is almost always some variation on the theme of nice jeans/trousers + long-sleeve + T-shirt (+ nice jumper/jacket + coat). I have a colour palette I work with so it's pretty cohesive but I really only bring out nice outfits, lolita or otherwise, on the weekends. It's a pain to move all my stuff from one handbag to another so if I need a different bag to match an outfit I'm probably only gonna wear it on weekends. When I was a student I used to dress up more but I had a lot more time then.

I got some part-time work in an office that requires smarter clothes and I put more effort into that, but that's because I'm a corpgoth at heart so I like being able to wear pinstriped suits. But even that's a pretty limited wardrobe - charcoal pinstripe trouser suit, black pinstripe trouser suit, couple of other pairs of office pants, black coal neck jumper, wine cowl neck jumper, couple of white shirts, grey silk shirt, wine silk shirt.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:49:28 2015 No.8205684 >>8205651 Its the ones with loads of cris-crossing straps that are out of stock, the ones pictured are still in stock in a bunch of colours and might be restocked. Also some Western goth brands like Demonia have similar ones IIRC.

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 17:50:27 2015 No.8205688

>>8205572
I like all kinds of fashion, though I'm not a big fan of the usual casual wear you see people wear like jeans and a shirt or jeans and a cheap sweater(these are my don't give a fuck I'm late for class go to outfits).

I like Japanese fashions and Japanese designers (like Yojji), but I also like western stuff though I don't really keep up with designers as much as I try to keep up with what's being shown and made for the season.

I tend to just look afar rather than dress in them though since a) poor and b) I don't think I'd suit most of the western stuff I like since my body isn't androgynous enough thanks to a short torso and wide pelvis, and I don't like the "sexy" look. A lot of other stuff I see in celeb mags and on the street while "fashionable", I find them boring. No interesting shapes or textures irl.
I have a couple of "higher end" as in retails for $200+, but they were things I found thrifting(most with tags still on)

>>8205622
tailoring is the only real option
>>8205651
they are only bodyline

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 18:01:10 2015 No.8205705
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Does anyone own a pink millefeuille bolero from Innocent World? Is it this shade of pink irl or is it a very pale pink? The online stock picture doesn't look like pic related so I'm on the fence about ordering.

Also, how is the sizing? I'm busty but can wear IW pieces with shirring.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 18:52:25 2015 No.8205878 anyone order this replica? Whats the quality like? http://www.my-lolita-dress.com/replica-angelic-pretty-melty-ribbon-chocolate-collar-lolita-jsk-hcm-3

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 18:54:49 2015 No.8205889 >>8205705 Hey, I own it. The shade of pink is close to the shade in your picture. It isn't the same colour as in the stock images. Personally, I find it fits me well, but then again my bust is small.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 20:26:16 2015 No.8206113 File: 287 KB, 500x600, 02121450_54dc3f2dec6e4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is the drained cherry rerelease on lolibrary? For some reason I can't find it when I search for "drained cherry"; it only brings up the older release.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 21:03:12 2015 No.8206219 Tried on my first brand dress with my regular bra and instant boob loaf. What do?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 21:12:01 2015 No.8206240 >>8206219 chest binder

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 21:14:54 2015 No.8206249 >>8205878 Crap

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 21:30:44 2015 No.8206286 >>8206249 pics? reviews?

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 21:51:57 2015 No.8206334

>>8205572
for me it varies widely. i'm willing to drop up to $500 even for normalfag dresses that i'll wear occasionally, and my shoes are usually pretty expensive, but i also love going thrift shopping and i've gotten really, really good at it. my outfits range in price from maybe a total of $30 (not including bras and such) all the way up to $1000+ for normal wear. it really depends on the day and the shoes.

Anonymous Wed Mar 25 22:18:40 2015 No.8206405
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>>8206286
the images provided on MLD should make it pretty obvious why it's crap. look at that print work! it looks so bad compared to the original.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 22:26:23 2015 No.8206419 >>8205705 You'll be fine for fit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 22:26:33 2015 No.8206420 >>8205254 Old thread >>8199895

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 22:47:29 2015 No.8206473 >>8205622 Eat more, move less.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 22:48:56 2015 No.8206482 >>8206405 Oh wow that's bad, even by replica standards.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 25 23:47:08 2015 No.8206583 >>8206405 I agree it looks like crap, but I'm pretty sure they're comparing 2 different colourways here

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 00:04:20 2015 No.8206607 >>8206405 These replicas are the most pathetic to me... Plain printed vs a textured weave... Why bother?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 00:11:56 2015 No.8206623 >>8205688 Goddamnit, I was hoping that people had another solution than tailoring. Oh well, easier to take in than to let out. >>8206473 if you're telling me to gain weight I'll pass, even though it would solve the problem.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 00:20:34 2015 No.8206637 >>8205878 If you are buying a replica, no one will give a shit about 'quality'. Replicas aren't quality goods, silly Anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 00:21:46 2015 No.8206638 >>8206405 You know how sometimes old chocolate turns white? Yeah, they got that nailed down

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 00:45:33 2015 No.8206682 Stupid question- how do you wear lolita in a car without getting your skirt all wrinkled? I'm going to a meet about an hour away and don't want to look too awful when I get there

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 01:43:24 2015 No.8206779 >>8205622 when us skinny girls complain about this we just get bashed. the answer: there is none. ;_; >tfw 50% of the dresses i buy are too big

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 01:52:09 2015 No.8206798 >>8206113 The measurements are 89-119 bust, 81-106 waist and 89 length according to angelic pretty's webshop if that's what you wanted to know anon!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 01:59:40 2015 No.8206815 >>8205622 D a r t s

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 02:08:08 2015 No.8206827 >>8206798 oh I know that, I'm just concerned that it's not on lolibrary is all. Just for ease of access and all that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 02:08:39 2015 No.8206828 >>8206638 Haha, Chocolate Bloom Replica. Perfect. So gross-looking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 02:14:46 2015 No.8206843 >>8206779 No hate, sis, just have them taken in. Much easier when they are too big than to get them let out. Any seamstress with decent sewing skills can do these kinds of basic alterations. It's not even that expensive. Give it a try.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 09:50:04 2015 No.8207482 Has anyone here from the U.S. ordered from the baby Japanese website? If so, how did you manage duty fees? according to the email they sent me I might have to pay duty fees but I keep finding conflicting results online about this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 09:56:17 2015 No.8207490 >>8207482 our customs is pretty cool, usually don't run into any trouble, I've made orders >2k usd and it's been cleared without fees.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:03:35 2015 No.8207494

>>8207490
huh ok, up till now I've only really ordered things from Russia. A few months ago I ordered $3k worth of parts from Russia, but my contacts declare the parts as toys, gifts, send in multiple packages, and declared the values really low even though some of the parts I ordered were worth hundreds of dollars.

I've never really ordered from a legit overseas vendor before so that was new to me when I got the email saying I might have duty fees to pay.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 10:27:36 2015 No.8207518 File: 245 KB, 536x674, Capture d’écran 2015-03-25 à 10.07.48.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I didn't really know where to put this but I had to share. I saw this while browsing the mm tag on pinterest.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 11:06:28 2015 No.8207568

>>8205572
It's too hot 90% of the year where I live to rock my mainstream wardrobe. (All of my good stuff is for a colder climate--I moved down here not quite two years ago.)
& I'm chubby (or fat, idfk) so all of the warm-weather fashions...eh. They're inappropriate for work and even if they're comfortable, I'd be mistaken for a slob if I wore them because of my weight.

However, I've been building a more polished, professional wardrobe outside of lolita. I graduate this summer and will need business clothing, which I don't have at all. I'd love if I could incorporate some of the j-fash aesthetics, but I'm not sure how to even do that.

I wear cute dresses and sandals daily right now but it's pretty repetitive.

A lot of the girls in my comm are super cute but they really don't care for fashion much outside of lolita. Usually jeans or shorts, a cute top, and flats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 13:44:12 2015 No.8207844 How do you measure for a chest binder?

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:53:11 2015 No.8207951

>>8205572
I used to not give a shit what I wore yet paradoxically read a lot about both alternative and and mainstream fashion and get judgey over the latest trends before lolita. Kind of an "I can't afford the stuff I like, and when I saven up for a piece it's out of style within six months, so I won't bother with fashion at all". Plus a lot of trends are too extreme for daily wear (or so I thought). I had a goth phase, but I didn't gave much money and couldn't buy online so it just manifested as wearing black T-shirts and jeans. Really liked the cyber aesthetic for a couple of years but again, without money it just meant adding neons to the same wardrobe. Then I was seriously depressed for a couple of years and genuinely put no effort into my appearance at all. This was all as a teen. Got out of that and into a better place with more disposable income, realised I deserved to look pretty etc etc and started putting effort in with thrifted stuff. Then realised that now I had money, it wasn't a crime to spend money on myself and started buying lolita seriously on my 20th birthday.

Nowadays I mostly dress casual-but-cute (lots of knitwear in colours that suit me, plaid skirts, nice jeans) because I have to look presentable for my major, then at the weekends it's lolita, boyish urban shit (trainers, graffiti prints) or normalfag clothing with a slightly punky vibe (black leather jackets, more plaid, distressed jeans). Had an abortive attempt to get into mori because it's so easy to find clothes suitable for the style in thrift shops near me, but I realised it didn't suit me. I don't spend loads on clothes unless they're real leather or wool though, and I never buy non-lolita designer because the price is so out of proportion to the quality or ethics. Plus I don't like most of it; the only non-lolita designer brand whose shit I consistently like is Demobaza.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:56:28 2015 No.8207961 >>8206219 diet

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 14:57:09 2015 No.8207962

I'm not in love with Lolita anymore. It's sucking the life out of me instead of making me feel beautiful. But no matter what I do I can't bring myself to actually leave the fashion. I still love the clothes deep down.
I'm not really sure where to go from here because I don't want to sell my clothes, and in fact part of me still wants to get a few more things to "complete" my wardrobe, but at the same time it's just not for me anymore. I want to go my own way and separate myself from Lolita and the label and the community, but I don't want to get rid of all my clothes because I still love them.

I love Lolita clothes, I just don't love Lolita fashion, and I am a bit lost.

I'm having an identity crisis I think.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:03:51 2015 No.8207973 >>8207962 move to otome, anon. you'll be much happier, I promise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:05:56 2015 No.8207977 >>8207962 Do a detox from being online and posting coordinate pics and attending meets (and check, even /cgl/) and you'll probably find a lot of the pressure that's ruining the hobby for you disappears.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:12:24 2015 No.8207996 >>8207977 this so much. I go through a lolita identiy crisis every couple of years and the detox really helps my figure out what i really want. enjoy your clothes for fun anon

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:12:27 2015 No.8207997

>>8207973
I thought about it but I don't know if I can get into otome or if it's even the right fashion for me. Maybe I'll look through some otome pics later and see how I feel.

To be honest I'm starting to think about leaving fashion completely. Just not giving a damn about clothes at all anymore. I can't quite place exactly why, but I think a lot of it has to do with just feeling like clothes take up a lot of my time but offer me little happiness in return. But I'm one of those creative artsy people and always loved clothes so I don't think I could ever just quit caring.

I'm in a weird place in life right now and that's probably the reason for this identity crisis, but it's just making things more complicated. Is it very common for people to have problems with this? It just seems like such a stupid thing to let bother you, and yet at the same time I'm incredibly bothered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:17:11 2015 No.8208004 >>8207977 >>8207996 I was thinking about taking a permanent break from the online communities and pics and things. The idea of leaving doesn't scare me, but I'm still nervous for some reason.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:36:10 2015 No.8208033

>>8207962
After thinking about it for another minute, I think my problem is the clothes aren't fun for me anymore. I think the only way they can become fun again is if I stop following the fashion and just do whatever I feel like doing.
I've been into Lolita for 7 years now, so it's sort of become a part of my identity, which is why I'm struggling so much with this I think. I've been a Lolita for this long, and now I suddenly no longer feel myself identifying with the label. It's kind of like waking up after getting a knock on the head and forgetting who you are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:39:26 2015 No.8208036 >>8208033 Also I'm sorry if I'm shitting in the thread and this is inappropriate, this is the only place I can vent about my private feelings and I was hoping some of you may have felt the same way or had advice.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:47:37 2015 No.8208049
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>>8207962
Are you me?
I'm having the same troubles. I'm quite involved in the community too so I can't leave because it will cause problems. What I'm doing is taking a break from wearing the clothes and selling off any 'filler' items or pieces I don't 100% love. I still love my friends and I'm fine to attend small meets in normal clothes (my usual style is quite fancy anyway) so I won't lose touch with the people I care about that way.
Just waiting for the day to come when Lolita makes me happy again

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 15:57:46 2015 No.8208066

>>8208033
Then do whatever you feel like doing and stop following the fashion. Don't worry so much about labels, just do what you want and find something you love. Don't let yourself wear your clothes for like a month or two, and then when that time is up you will probably really want to wear them again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 16:43:04 2015 No.8208142 >>8206682 Make sure it's flat on your butt and you're not sitting on it bunched up underneath you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 16:48:38 2015 No.8208153 >>8206828 Chocolate bloom is like, the worst

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 16:58:42 2015 No.8208169 File: 91 KB, 807x719, fon0VgTRf6E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the name of the dress on the third picture?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 17:34:58 2015 No.8208215 >>8208169 It's Baby and called something like "Secret Key"

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 18:54:32 2015 No.8208342

Are there any "public" lolitas that are well regarded and well liked?

I ask because Chokelate is busy shitting up the Online Comm Thread and Milky Fawn (although she is now an ex-lolita) was saying stupid stuff on here like last week as well.

Princess Peachie has always seemed really nice, but the other lolitas seemed fine too. Just curious! I'd love to follow some girls that are nice and low drama.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:00:59 2015 No.8208354 >>8208342 I think Fanny Rosie stays out of drama? Not sure because I don't follow efamous girls, but it appears that she is polite, although slightly aloof, and just a nice well-dressed lady.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:01:46 2015 No.8208356 >>8207844 You might get a better answer asking in the help thread, more girls wear them for crossplay than for lolita.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:03:02 2015 No.8208358 >>8205572 How is the fit for Alice Auaa?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:05:57 2015 No.8208362 >>8208342 Any public lolita is going to have mixed opinions about them.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:09:43 2015 No.8208372

>>8208342
I think Peachie is a creepy replica-chan. I watched her wardrobe video and when she was pulling out one AP replica after another, it was very off-putting. If she really loved AP she could have bought a few real brand dresses instead of a ton of cheap replicas. No thanks.

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:26:26 2015 No.8208403

>>8208342
>>8208354
I don't think Fanny Rosie identifies as a lolita anymore, but does still post outfit shots.

Part of the problem about asking this question is that pretty much all of the popular lolitas are vocally disliked by someone that posts here. They will complain about their coords, beauty, attitude and personality, people they associate with, pretty much anything they could complain about. No one is universally liked.

I'd say your best bet is to look through tumblr for coords you like and start following those people. Weed out the drama mongerers as you go.

I have liked some of the coords by aerynsys, siriusc, altered-imagery, choke, cadney, neko-story-lolita, victorianme, realisticsweet, nokecha, gwynium, obsixwi, and mysubarashiilolidays, but I'm not sure who on that list is super active and/or low drama.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 19:54:17 2015 No.8208447 File: 532 KB, 1280x720, orihime minashiro.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this based on actual burando

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 20:15:51 2015 No.8208493 >>8208447 Not with those sleeves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 21:37:42 2015 No.8208573 Where can I get a blouse that will fit my shoulders? I have a 25" waist, 40" bust, but 51" shoulder to shoulder. everything is like 30-40" shoulder to shoulder size. I don't know where to look for larger ones.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:09:52 2015 No.8208621 File: 6 KB, 375x129, ss+(2015-03-27+at+11.06.32).png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm confused about meta's measurements. What would the total length of this be? 71.5cm or 91cm? Are they two different "sizes"?

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:37:33 2015 No.8208672

>>8208403
Im pretty sure Fanny thinks she is lolita. The reason she gives for how she tags is because of the backlash she gets for some outfits she wears so it is safer to just not call it lolita.

>>8208621
Pic of what it is measuring for would help, because I have a feeling it is measurements from two different spots, maybe with strap and without. Bc is probably back center? Not sure what BNP stands for.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 22:39:43 2015 No.8208675 Do Meta restock their shoes? I really want their lavender ones but they're sold out in my size :(

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:03:15 2015 No.8208725
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Can anyone help me track down this wig? She said it was an l-email wig that she bought on eBay. I've been searching for a few days now and can't find anything. It's super fucking cute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:11:29 2015 No.8208750 >>8206798 really? those measurements are so big!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:15:57 2015 No.8208757 >>8208725 Seconding, I have a mighty need

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:24:58 2015 No.8208768 >>8208725 http://www.wig-supplier.com/40cm-medium-long-lolita-beige-curly-wave-cosplay-wig-cb41-p-1800.html

Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:29:45 2015 No.8208770

>>8207844
There's not really any particular method? Binders from different places have different sizing, but when they list "bust" measurement it's no different from in lolita when someone lists the bust measurement. Most places will list either a "band size" kind of thing that correlates with what your bust measurement is (at it's widest, so not the underbust) or just list a size that accommodates a span of measurements. (so it might be like, size 32 or size M for 30-32 in bust)
It may do good to do something like google your bra size + binder or read reviews on what you want to get an idea for sizing, sometimes people have to go up or down for some reason or another.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:41:03 2015 No.8208789 >>8208573 I'm really confused by this, am I just being an idiot? By 51 inch shoulder do you mean 51 centimeters? Am I imagining what you're measuring wrong? (the measurement that goes from one shoulder to your other shoulder measured from your back)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:55:31 2015 No.8208798 >>8207844 In addition to what >>8208770 said, most sites have a sizing chart for their binders because an L in one company is an M in another.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 26 23:58:31 2015 No.8208801 >>8208372 I think she's mostly bodyline now? Her wardrobe vid is really old and she actually has 2 AP dresses

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:36:22 2015 No.8208874 Can I ask a couple of questions for a paper? Why do you like and wear lolita? And for any brolitas, why do you specifically like and wear lolita?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:47:57 2015 No.8208887 >>8208169 what's the name of the dress in the middle picture? it's gorgeous

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:48:15 2015 No.8208888

>>8208874
>Why do you like and wear lolita?

I think what initially made me like lolita is just, the pretty clothes. I consider myself a pretty fashionable person outside of lolita, but lots of clothing just don't have the kind of details that lolita pieces do, weather it's a detailed print or a really extravagant or well thought out plain-cloth design. I'm also into eccentric things, so the "odd" accessories like donut-shaped purses, headpieces that look like cake, batwing headbands and handbags, bright colors and detailed prints, etc really pulled me in.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:55:51 2015 No.8208903

>>8208874
>And for any brolitas, why do you specifically like and wear lolita?

I on't really think I have any reason for liking lolita that is that much different from why girls like it aside from the fact that j-fashion for men (as with most of menswear) is dull and repetitive. I like lolita fashion's aesthetic and happen to be thin enough to fit into most brand pieces, so why not?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 00:59:31 2015 No.8208912 >>8208801 2 whole AP dresses omg anon that totally makes up for it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 01:01:21 2015 No.8208915 File: 73 KB, 360x420, 120510100019.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8208672 This dress.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 01:33:31 2015 No.8208957 What's the contact email for antaina to make custom shoes? Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 01:39:03 2015 No.8208963 >>8208403 gwynium LOL one of these things is not like the other

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 01:55:43 2015 No.8208985 >>8208358 I only have one of their dresses so I don't know much except that getting into it with a 88cm bust is a fucking pain. A+ for quality though.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 01:56:28 2015 No.8208988

>>8208573
...are you a linebacker, anon? Even 51cm is pretty wide, especially if you have a 25 inch waist. Are you sure you're measuring properly? Find a t-shirt that fits you well and measure from shoulder seam to shoulder seam - you may be choosing an incorrect reference point on your shoulders.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:31:48 2015 No.8209125

>>8208621
Meta sometimes don't include straps in their jsk measurements. For example have a jskv which they listed as 72cm, such hits me just above the knee, and I'm 5'8"
Add 15 or 20 cm or so depending on how long they look. If the measurement is in the 50s, it's the skirt length.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 03:35:31 2015 No.8209132 >>8208988 Yes, I am 51cm shoulder to shoulder. It's a pain in the ass. I wish I wasn't so wide :(

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:03:42 2015 No.8209157

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but if you order something from IW and it is listed as "sold out" before they invoice you, does that mean you won't be able to get it?
Also, if I can't get this one item, I don't want any of that order. Do they allow cancellations because of this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 04:43:43 2015 No.8209186 >>8208801 >>8208912 And they're both lucky pack prints lmfao

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:30:10 2015 No.8209212

>>8209157
Q1: No, you can still get it, they will usually put the item aside for you before they invoice so it depends on if you got your order in before it sold out.
Q2: If the sold out item is the biggest/most expensive, they understand if you cancel everything. If the sold out item is small, they might let you cancel but could be not as nice about it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:48:55 2015 No.8209228

>>8208573
>>8209132

Anon, I'm going to suggest you find a local tailor or seamstress that you can visit in person. Some of your measurements are really drastic, and while places like The Floral Notebook, Anna House, Bunny House or Fan plus Friend do a pretty decent job of making lolita blouses, you're really better off with someone who can actually see you in person, note what kind of problems you have, and during fitting you can actually try on the blouse and point out any problems rather than wait for a finished blouse to be shipped halfway across the world to you and then find it doesn't fit well.

For the fabric and lace quality, tell the tailor you'd like to use your own lace, that way you can keep a grip on quality by buying the lace yourself; buy them off etsy or taobao if nice lace is not available in your local shops. Most blouses are made from the same basic cotton and chiffon as any other office blouse, so you can probably work something out with your tailor whether you buy your own fabric or they supply some for you.

Other things I'd suggest are to start with a simpler blouse, so both you and the tailor can concentrate on getting a good fit (you can come back for a more complicated blouse if the simpler one works out). Since you have wide shoulders, try looking up what looks good on you and chose your blouse designs to suit, for instance I think you should avoid cotton blouses with puff sleeves as they'd make your shoulders look wider.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:54:54 2015 No.8209233

>>8209157
Orders are filled in the order they are recieved. The English site (idk about Japanese one) isn't kept updated constantly, they must manually do it or the stock items refresh every x hours. Something can show up as being not sold out on the site but still be sold out. You may still be able to get it.

When I ordered from them once and the dress I wanted wasn't in stock by the time they tried to fill my order, they let me change the dress. However they messed up and thought I meant a different dress than the one I had told them due to translation error, so I told them to cancel my order and I would submit another one with yet another dress (because both jsks I wanted had sold out!) and the other items I wanted. Didn't give them a choice, just told them and then made a new order. They might have only let me get away with it because I did end up buying the dress (plus even more items) and they had made an error.

They will send you a personal email if the dress is sold out and you can tell them what you want in response. Should be fine, their staff are lovely!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 05:59:48 2015 No.8209237 >>8209186 Well of course she bought the legit ones of the AP she does own, because there are no available replicas of them. I'm sure she would have bought replicas of them if they were available.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 06:52:51 2015 No.8209282 >>8208342 This is /cgl/. Someone on here is gonna hate anyone you care to name.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 07:03:34 2015 No.8209296
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Does anyone know where I can get velvet headbows, preferably in wine (although black would be good too) from either a EU or Taobao seller? I like ones that have a cascade effect like pic related, but Ill settle for any style that doesn't just look look like a floppy 80s normalfag headband.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 07:31:04 2015 No.8209315

>>8208874
I like lolita because it's so elegant and detailed. I like the aesthetics of the major lolita substyles, and honestly I like that it's "just clothes"-although lolita lifestylers are a thing, I like that you don't have to fit some perfect lolita mold to wear the fashion without getting looked down upon. It's more avant-garde than normal fashion, and I like that aspect of it too.

I wear lolita because I love it, and it makes me happy.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 07:58:42 2015 No.8209333

>>8208874
When I first saw it (oldschool/gothic stuff when I was 13 or 14) I liked the style because I thought it looked gothic and cool and yet was different from what was popular in the gothic scene at the time. So the usual young teen motivations of wanting to be ~different~ from all the normal people, only with enough self-awareness to realise that the alternative crowd often all looked the same too. And I'll admit that I also thought it looked like anime girls (even though at that point I'd never seen any lolitas in anime), and I thought anime girls were hot and therefore wearing lolita would make me hot. Looking back on it, I'm really glad I didn't have any money for clothes or ability to buy online. I bought ita disaster dresses (although at least I would probably too shy to wear them out). I rationalized that it was too feminine and too expensive for me, so I basically just forgot about it for a while.

Fast forward a few years and I saw the style mentioned online again, and Googling led me to the handbook and more examples of proper lolita. This time what drew me in was the resemblance to historical fashions (I'm a big history buff), and the fact it was feminine but yet not conformist. When I'd been younger I'd been a tomboy and I'd felt a lot of pressure to be more girly and more "normal", which meant for a long while I didn't like any girly things because I felt like they were being forced on me. Lolita was a way for me to embrace feminine things on my own terms. I was originally just an observer of the fashion because I thought it was too expensive and I wouldn't have the confidence to wear it around my family, but when I moved out and got more disposable income I started buying it.

I like how it can make me feel cute, pretty or like a gothic lady of darkness depending on the coord. I also like that it has rules rather than being as subjective as ordinary fashion, where one season double denim is a fashion disaster and another season it's on trend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 08:31:23 2015 No.8209355 >>8209333 *or I would have bought ita dresses, sage for correction

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 09:51:49 2015 No.8209408

>>8209296
I couldn't find an exact copy of what you want, but I did find clips that you might like.
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.w4004-10262437696.18.uPH6vn&id=42178629713

You can attach it to a headband if you want to, but look around at the seller's items because you might find something else you like more. Good luck!

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 09:58:26 2015 No.8209415

Is it just me or are the bodices on Innocent Word JSKs really weird?
Never had an OP by them before, but I own 3 of their JSKs and I never feel satisfied with the look of them. It's not like I'm big busted, I'm a C cup, and fit well under the maximum measurements.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:15:54 2015 No.8209443 >>8209408 Thanks anon, I'd looked on Ciciwork and Rococo Soul but I'd forgotten about Foxcherry. I'm not so keen on the crumpled look of the ribbon tied around the middle of that bow, but I can probably decorate it with something to cover it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:24:26 2015 No.8209453 >>8209443 Ah, this is just what I was loooking for! http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10.3-c.w4002-10261087401.61.vkMDaS&id=42129663059

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 10:57:07 2015 No.8209510 >>8209415 The ones I've come across all have weirdly long bodices but aren't cut to suit large busts, so I'm not really sure what's going on there either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:27:56 2015 No.8209556 Does someone know how long summertales boutique does take to respond to e-mails? I want to reserve from IW with them but I don't want to risk that the items sell out in the meanwhile, while waiting for an response/invoice.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:31:43 2015 No.8209563

>>8209510
One of mine is high waisted and it's the same.. I specifically buy them because of my height. I wonder if I could somehow correct the bust, maybe it's the way they cut it or the darts or something (I know nothing about sewing as you can see) but if there were any way I could tailor it I would. Otherwise I think I might just have a weird shaped torso.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:33:35 2015 No.8209565 >>8208915 I have a mighty need for this dress. Ugh. I wish Meta were more specific about their measurements. I'm always guessing if it will fit or not.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:44:23 2015 No.8209577

>>8209563
I think it's just an excess of fabric. I'm 5'10 so I always adjust the straps, and if I get the bust in the right place, the waist is a good couple centimeters lower than where it should be and I end up with weird man-torso. IW's just-waist stuff is really nice, but the bodices always turn me away.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 11:59:25 2015 No.8209603 >>8209237 Actually she DID own a replica of one of them. Plus I heard somewhere that in order to buy AP she sold off the majority of her replicas.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:17:30 2015 No.8209628 >>8209577 Yeah, shame that one of mine can't get adjusted. I think I might just sell it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:21:28 2015 No.8209640

>>8209603
She influenced heavily in favor of replicas for a long time though so I do not like her. I saw one of her unboxings videos when she was really tired and a lot of her affected cheery cuteness was just dropped too. So now she just seems very fake. For a while people hinted at some age-play stuff but I think she got it back under wraps because I do not hear it now.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:22:13 2015 No.8209644

What do you guys do when something that arrives slightly disappoints you or slightly doesn't fit, but it's not terrible? Sell it and accept a loss or try to keep it for at least a couple of outfits? I don't want to keep something I'll just wear once or twice, but I know I'll lose at least $30 if I try to sell it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:29:06 2015 No.8209658

>>8209415

IW bodices have a rep for being mostly tube-shaped. Someone posted a pic of the designer being boobloafed in her own dress.

It's really frustrating and perplexing. They obviously cut the blouses to allow for some amount of boobs, but the jsks don't seem to have the same bust allowance that the blouses do. It turns me off a lot of their clothes because I know all their dresses will boobloaf me, even the underbust styles, so no matter how gorgeous their print is, I have to think twice about dealing with the boobloaf before committing to a purchase.

>>8209577
If you're not dealing with the long jsks (which sometimes do have longer torsos), then I think you have a short torso. Having the waist be a few inches lower isn't a common problem with IW jsks that I know of.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:33:02 2015 No.8209667 I just saw a scan of the article about the lolita who was tragically stabbed to death in Australia. >mfw they called her a cosplayer and said her lolita was cosplay I swear only idiots work for the newspaper.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:33:23 2015 No.8209668

>>8209658
>IW bodices have a rep for being mostly tube-shaped.

I LOVE Innocent World, but I can't purchase their dresses because of this. I'm a 30DD and this is the only brand I get boobloaf in. I really wish they would implement darts instead of their awkward princess seam.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:35:46 2015 No.8209670

>>8209640
>She influenced heavily in favor of replicas for a long time
And then posted on tumblr how stealing from indie artists is not okay how fucking dare taobao do that to poor widdle indie artists

I wish she would formally apologize for being a hypocrite and clear all that up, because really.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:41:12 2015 No.8209679

>>8209644

I'd try to make it work, or at least keep it around for a couple of weeks and see if I can come up with fresh ideas, or some other use/way of wearing it.

For eg, If you fit into a jsk but the bodice sits funny, it can usually be hidden with a bolero, or I deepened the darts on one of my JetJ dresses to stop it gaping so much. If you fit into a blouse but the rest of it looks odd (like the waist being too low or the third button won't button), most of the blouse can be hidden under a jsk so it still works as long as I only wear it under a jsk, vest, or something. If the OTKs turn out to be UTKs, you can reserve them for use with tea-length dresses only. It's not really any different than buying a flower crown that you can only wear to a fancy tea party, it has limited uses but it's still useful.

Even for things like a dress that doesn't zip up, you can decide to take it to a tailor's and have them alter it to fit, if you really like it that much.

It usually harder to make a good decision whether to sell an item and take a $30 loss, or keep it and live with its imperfections while you're still emotional over being dissappointed, so it's better to hang on to it for a couple of weeks, come back and make the decision when you can think rationally.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:47:18 2015 No.8209698 >>8209667 I was gonna make a joke about how that's really not something you want your death remembered by, but I thought it was a bit facetious.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:50:19 2015 No.8209705

>>8209640
Personally, I like her. I don't think she has a totally fake personality (from other things I've seen her saying, she seems like a fairly sensible twenty-something), she just puts on a cheery persona for her videos, which is reasonable IMHO. Personally I like her, and I was one of the anons making ageplay comments at the time. I don't genuinely think she's an ageplayer or have access to insider knowledge about whatever kinks she has, I just thought that something she said in one of her videos came off oddly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:52:22 2015 No.8209709 >>8208342 I didn't hear that about Milky Fawn. What happened?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:53:09 2015 No.8209714 >>8209667 link?

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:54:57 2015 No.8209717

>>8209679
Yeah...I was super excited when it arrived a couple of weeks ago, but I didn't have time to try it on until today, when I got hyped and started experimenting with coords for it, only to realise it was actually too big. It's a high-waisted skirt that I was between sizes for so I got the larger size, and now I have to make the corset lacing really tight even if I want to wear it with something bulky tucked into it. I feel like making the lacing that tight makes it sit oddly but IDK if anyone else would even notice.

I also noticed when I was trying on coords for it that it was a slightly different shade than I thought and doesn't perfectly match the items I'd planned to coord it with. But I'm reluctant to sell because I've got other stuff for sale at the moment that I've had for sale for a month without anyone buying, even after I reduced the price.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 12:56:10 2015 No.8209718 >>8209714 miss-glamourguts.tumblr.com/post/114180736204/theres-a-beautiful-piece-on-princess-marci-in

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 13:01:37 2015 No.8209731 >>8209718 Kek and we trust these guys to inform us on whats going on in the world god bless her frills anyway

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 13:20:51 2015 No.8209758 >>8209668 I'm 30 D/28 DD, I've never had that problem

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 13:24:46 2015 No.8209765 >>8209758 You must have good luck pickin' them, because there's no hope with me and I'm smaller.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 14:06:43 2015 No.8209841 >>8208675 Send them an email as they will check in shops for you

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 14:22:26 2015 No.8209880 >>8209333 Wow, did I write this in my sleep?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 14:29:59 2015 No.8209897 >>8209880 Nope, it was definitely me. Although I did get freaked out when I saw your comment because for a second I thought I'd written your comment about sleeping to mock the typos in my post and forgotten I'd written it.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 14:46:21 2015 No.8209915
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I was just wondering about this..

How old is Misako Aoki? I've seen her birth date listed as May 15 1982, which would make her 32 (33 in a few months). This makes sense to me as she was appearing in the lolita bibles and elsewhere as early as 2002 (possibly earlier?), at which point I think she was training to be a nurse or was newly qualified(?).

I'm mostly curious as she's around a year younger than me, and I've been seeing her around since I first discovered lolita fashion in roughly late 2002.

I really hope she has no intention of abandoning lolita fashion any time soon, as I think she looks wonderful in it. I'd love to see her still in the fashion at say, 40+ and beyond.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 15:42:46 2015 No.8209985

>>8209717

Well, you always have the option of getting the skirt taken in by a tailor, it's just a matter of deciding whether you like the skirt enough to sink even more money into it. As for the colour difference, so long as it doesn't clash, a little bit of difference won't be all that obvious.

Of course, the alternative is you could wear the skirt however you liked, eg- hide the ill fit by wearing untucked blouses, vests, bustiers, etc over the skirt. Use it a couple of times, and then selling it off for $30-40 loss wouldn't feel like such a huge deal, since you've had some fun times in it already.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:09:57 2015 No.8210018

>>8209985
I think the colour difference could be well-disguised by getting an overdress, so I suppose that's next on my to-buy list. Or I might list it for trade for the size down online...

I'm definitely "have a couple of fun times, then sell" kind of person usually, especially when I've already planned the coords to wear with an item, but I've realised lately that doing that probably hurts the market value. "Worn twice" items go for less than "BNWT" ones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:14:28 2015 No.8210025 >>8208725 it's from wig supplier, I have this wig too. It's really thick but you really have to brush through it a lot when you take it out of the packaging because it comes in this big puffy waves.

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:16:37 2015 No.8210027

>>8205705
Hi OP, I own that and it's kindof in the middle. That picture is more saturated than it looks in real life, but it's definitely not as muted as the website.

As for the fit, you'll be fine. I wear the L and it fits great. I can't even usually wear IW JSKs because boobloaf.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 16:43:08 2015 No.8210061 >>8209556 maybe try their facebook

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 17:42:11 2015 No.8210151

>>8209667
>Hey Bob, what's this outfit called?
>Hmm, well my cousin's friend's 11-year-old nephew pranced around in a tutu once and called it cosplay, and this isn't too far off so it must be cosplay.
>Sounds good, let's write an article on it.

This could've been heartwarming but it got fucked from the start.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 18:37:48 2015 No.8210273 >>8208049 this is such a lovely coord and setting but holy shit i cannot stop cringing at that crooked violin bridge AHH FIX IT

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 19:03:12 2015 No.8210325

Has anyone bought something from Qutieland before and just never received anything? I ordered a surface spell jsk 2 months ago and the status is still 'processing', and I contacted them 4 days ago and still no answer. (At this point I'm going to chargeback, only reason I used them in the first place was that the jsk wasn't on their taobao anymore, but they've since put it back.)

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 19:06:52 2015 No.8210335

>>8209915
Sounds about right.

I hope she stays in it for a long time. Not just because she's aging well, but because I tend to prefer older lolitas who have been in for a bit. I feel like a lot of those have more a creative and dynamic sense of "fashion" in general and aren't afraid to break the mold and draw on other styles for inspiration.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 19:11:39 2015 No.8210346 >>8209897 >>8209880 I was thinking the exact same thing, except maybe a year or two later. Life fucking story right there. I remember reading Lauran/kaoru_ai blog and wanting a meta lucky pack soooo bad it hurt.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 19:39:12 2015 No.8210400 >>8210325 Qutieland takes forever to make things and get them out. Like I ordered stuff for Christmas in October and got it in late January.

>>	sandycapotosto@gmail.com Fri Mar 27 20:14:38 2015 No.8210460 >>8205254 who are some good SS for AP tokyo? if you are one, please contact me! (cross posted in lolita general and BST, I hope no one minds. Sorry about the double post.)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 20:23:11 2015 No.8210470 >>8210400 that's not even bad, it took me 7 months to get my stuff, the one time I bought from qutieland

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 21:16:41 2015 No.8210557

If I created a lolita review blog on tumblr, like a lolita yelp, would that go over well? My idea is that we're such a small community it can be hard to review things publicly and honestly. So people could submit anonymously (or not if they choose). I thought about this when I saw people on BTB talking about that one seamstress being horrible but they're afraid to upset her by calling her out after she screwed them over. And a friend who had a bad experience with lockshop but got harassed by Choke-fans when she complained.

My main worry is figuring out ways to prevent false reviews, both good and bad. Any thoughts?

Anonymous Fri Mar 27 21:20:14 2015 No.8210564

>>8210557
I have wanted to do this for a while, good for you anon!. In the side column you have a list of all lolita stores and people can click them to see reviews for that store.

To stop false reviews you can require proof pictures and accept submissions from only verified tumblr users rather than anons. You can also link from real reviews on other sites.

I have a tumblr already taken out called "thelolitaspace" and it was going to be a master list type thing linking to all information lolitas could need so if you make your blog post here what it is called and I will be sure to include it as reviews were going to be a big part of my blog, but unnecessary if someone else is doing it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 21:51:21 2015 No.8210609 >>8210564 I have saved thelolitareview.tumblr.com. On mobile now but I'll fancy it up tonight (hopefully)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 23:05:39 2015 No.8210756 File: 293 KB, 500x600, UNIVERSITY.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] AP's university series went up and sold out in everything within 4 minutes. I am surprised.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 23:10:34 2015 No.8210764 >>8210756 Only managed to snag a pair of tights... The wine OP sold out once I added it to my cart at before 1 minute past! I've never experienced an AP release like that..

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 27 23:16:26 2015 No.8210780 >>8210400 you know Qutieland doesn't make ANYTHING they are a taobao reseller. they just order it from the brand for you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 00:08:26 2015 No.8210864 File: 107 KB, 365x330, 1407102210783.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8210756 I didn't think it would sell out so quickly. WHY DIDN'T I USE A SHOPPING SERVICE?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 00:29:36 2015 No.8210902 >>8210756 Fuck me. I didn't think this would be coming out so soon. Time to prepare my body (and wallet) for the secondhand market, I guess.

>>	ei666shii !otnRSDkuZA Sat Mar 28 00:42:41 2015 No.8210928 File: 242 KB, 936x1248, 1399246499403.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] hey /soc/ :333333

>>	ei666shii !otnRSDkuZA Sat Mar 28 00:44:06 2015 No.8210931 >>8210928 SHIT WRONG TAB

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 00:46:07 2015 No.8210934 >>8210928 If you plan on doing that much of a close-up, clean up your god damn brows, woman.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 00:53:49 2015 No.8210946 >>8210928 apex kek

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 00:59:31 2015 No.8210958 >>8210928 >taking the bait Can you stop trying to stir up shit on cgl? The rules clearly state that we're not your personal army. Take your vendetta against this girl and gtfo

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 01:01:37 2015 No.8210961
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>>8210335
Her skin is so beautiful and I'm honestly astonished by how young and youthful she still looks. I was hoping she might discuss her skincare routine in her book but there doesn’t actually seem to be much info about its contents around.

Did anyone buy the book and translate it in the end? I'd love to know if it's worth getting my hands on a copy (even with my shoddy Japanese skills).

https://www.youtube.co/watch?v=01JU0JtjveA

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 01:41:18 2015 No.8211043 >>8210928 nice shoop nerd

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 01:43:20 2015 No.8211047 >>8210564 >>8210557 I think this is a good idea, but I think tumblr is a bad format for it. It's not that easy to file things on tumblr, and the submission box is pretty shit.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 01:46:11 2015 No.8211053

>>8211047
I'll play around with the idea a bit. I could do via both submission and email? I could make an email strictly for that tumblr and people could use throwaways if they were being very cautious. I could just copy and paste in email as a new post.

Just tossing around ideas.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 01:52:47 2015 No.8211071

>>8211053
Samefagging: but also was thinking it could be easily sorted with specific tags. Could open reviews to brand, taobao, offbrand (but strictly loliable, like some western shoes), wigs, seamstresses/comissions, shopping services. Again, just throwing some ideas around.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 02:13:08 2015 No.8211103 >>8211047 Filing things is easy, so long as you tag things meticulously enough and have a page for a list of said tags used. It's similar to how LJ works. I'm all for this though; sounds like a great blog!

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 02:26:23 2015 No.8211119

>>8211071
>>8211103

Yeah sorting things on tumblr can be easy if you tag everything, I would also reccommend that you really look through a variety of sources for layouts because some themes are super shitty for organizing something like that, and others have been made perfectly for this. Getting a theme made for sorting tags/pages would also make things easier.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 02:38:32 2015 No.8211137 >>8211103 It's not as nice as say a database or something, though, imo. Also, I agree with >>8211119 in that you really need to choose a good theme, because most are total shit, especially when it comes to things like this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 02:42:36 2015 No.8211146 >>8210864 My ss got screwed over by resellers so I dont know how much better your luck would've been, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 02:44:59 2015 No.8211151 >>8211146 I don't know if they're all resellers or just lolitas who live in Tokyo, but when I went to an AP release, I would say at least half, if not more, of the people waiting were Chinese, and those are just the ones I heard talking.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 03:09:51 2015 No.8211169 >>8211119 Any suggestions? Is there maybe one where it lets you pin a post to the top?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 03:31:00 2015 No.8211190

>>8211169
For specific layouts? Nope, there's so many out there, really it's a matter of just googling some search terms. As for any that let you pin a post to the top, I'm not really sure, I don't think I've ever personally seen one like that. I did some googling for ya, might be able to look at these for a start?

http://theme-hunter.tumblr.com/
http://bajuz-themes.tumblr.com/
http://themetopia.tumblr.com/

Also would be worth finding some disqus friendly themes to allow comments from non-tumblr users. Some other search terms you could use that might help could be tumblr themes for writers, tumblr themes for text posts, professional tumblr themes (might get more hits on organizable themes?)
Don't be afraid to spend time on trying to find one that you like! There's a lot of the typical themes that are more catered towards image sharing, but I've come across plenty of really interesting ones either on people's blogs or just trying to find a theme for myself. Wish I had more specific suggestions for you.

Worst comes to worst, you get a theme with a drop-down navigation bar or a navigation bar in the side column or header and just put links to pages up, with specific tags linked on those pages. ("taobao" "indie" "commisioner" "shopping services" then like, "kidsyoyo" "elegy" on respective pages etc) Doesn't work out that bad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 03:40:47 2015 No.8211199 >>8210928 >>8210931 No one actually thinks youre actually ei666shii. You know what, I know nothing about her, but I like her now. Because you just look like a butthurt little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 03:51:09 2015 No.8211209 >>8211071 Maybe have a positive/ negative/ warning tag as well, or stars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 03:52:24 2015 No.8211210 File: 25 KB, 405x289, omgwhat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8211199 >telling the troll you're giving the trip they hate a pity like anon...

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 03:56:14 2015 No.8211214

Noob question here, is it considered rude to sell off a piece immediately after receiving it from a seller? I received my first brand jsk a couple weeks ago and I really don't find it flattering or my style (pure impulse buy). Should I wait a little or just sell it asap and use the money to buy something more my style?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 04:00:04 2015 No.8211220

>>8211146
So did I, anon. Fuck.

>>8211151
One of the shopgirls told me that half of their customers are Chinese. They do vet out obvious resellers on release days but from what I've seen from releases and instagrams, there are a whole fuckton of Chinese lolitas living in Tokyo. I think most of them do SS on the side too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 04:03:36 2015 No.8211225 >>8211214 >rude H-how? Whose feeling are you protecting here? Do you think the seller gives a fuck if you gave it a loving home or not?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 04:07:19 2015 No.8211233

>>8211214
I would say if the seller came across your listing they might find it kinda weird, but not rude, unless you're selling it for more than what they sold it to you for. I think it's super shitty to buy something and then immediately sell it at a price where you're obviously trying to make money off of it.

If it makes you feel better, just say something like "bought this, but found it wasn't my style, so hoping to sell it to someone else who will enjoy it!" in the description.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 04:29:12 2015 No.8211252 >>8211214 Just say it didn't suit your body type and then blame your darn torso for not being that of a petite asian.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 04:43:06 2015 No.8211260

>>8211220
They don't really vet SS. They take names for very popular releases and mark which items you bought (to ensure that you don't buy like two of the same cut if that's against the rules for the release), but other than that, they don't really do shit if you're a girl (I've seen them turn away guys, but I've also seen what appeared to be boyfriends buy with their girlfriends at less popular releases). I still don't understand how people like CT acquire so many dresses unless the rules at her store are wildly different than the ones at the Tokyo shops or she enlists her friends to help her buy stuff.

There are a lot of Chinese people living in Tokyo, but it still seems weird that they make up such a large proportion of release goers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 04:48:31 2015 No.8211264 >>8211146 I actually didn't think this release would be so popular. Compared to more recent releases, I found there wasn't a lot of activity surrounding it on FB.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 05:09:27 2015 No.8211279

>>8211260
The Tokyo store is stricter than the rest as Candy (she's the manager) is salty as fuck about resellers. I've heard of people being banned from the Tokyo store, apparently they take down your name and won't be able to attend releases.

I know other stores are more lax, like you could purchase a headbow without buying the matching dress though you aren't the only one wondering how CT manages to get so many dresses.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 05:12:46 2015 No.8211283 >>8210460 >using an email tied to your YouTube account on 4chan Chibitenshi, probably?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 05:32:37 2015 No.8211301

>>8211279
If she's the one I'm thinking of, she's just kind of a bitch in general.
I visit both the Tokyo (Harajuku) and Shinjuku shops fairly regularly, and the staff at the Tokyo shop is pretty shit in general. The one girl (who I think is probably the manager) rarely even welcomes you into the shop, is kind of curt when you ask questions/buy an item, and was a total bitch the one time I pulled out my phone to check the time during a release. Shinjuku is a bit nicer, but in general I think AP's staff are not as sweet or welcoming as Baby or brands like ETC's staff.
On a tangentially related note, the Laforet LG staff are super sweet, by the way. If you can speak a bit of Japanese, they'll probably engage you in a little conversation. I like that they come off as nice and helpful without seeming too fake (even if they are just being polite). Ank Rouge staff are also pretty chatty, but they seemed to be a bit more fake/cloying and really tried to push a sale.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 05:41:11 2015 No.8211308 >>8211301 Candy is that ugly, fattish middle aged lady, she's usually behind the till. Dammit anon, I want to know who you are so we can bitch about the shop girls.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 05:52:42 2015 No.8211314

>>8211301
I think the manager is pretty ok actually, but the Harajuku staff has to put up with a lot more scalpers, as well as SS (looking at you Mariana) and tourists taking pictures, and foreign lolitas who think screaming at them in English is how to communicate. I can see why they come off as having a tude.

mooniemagpie@yahoo.com Sat Mar 28 06:32:53 2015 No.8211346

>>8211314
The Shinjuku shop also deals with scalpers and SS, but they don't seem nearly as rude/cold.
Also, I don't know where the all of the rude foreigners are, but I've only seen a handful of foreigners at all of the releases I've been to, and as far as I know, most of them were people living in Japan/somewhat capable in Japanese. Not to mention plenty of other stores have to deal with foreigners on a regular basis, too.
Being a shop staff means dealing with shitty customers no matter where you work; responding in kind is never appropriate.
I guess it's especially kind of jarring in comparison to most other shop staff in Japan, who try to help you (sometimes a little too much) and repeat 'welcome' every time a person walks through the door (or like every 30 seconds at some of the lower end stores).

>>8211308
I left my email if you want to chat sometime, anon. I only know two or three lolitas here (haven't gone to an int. comm event yet), and they're all Japanese/Chinese and relatively busy being either students or housewives.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 14:26:44 2015 No.8212060 Does maidenclothing mark things down for you?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 14:41:19 2015 No.8212082

Not new to the hobby, but just recently wanted to start actually buying clothes, so i've got a few questions.
I've seen lolibrary and hellolace, are those the main archives of lolita clothing? And besides Alice and the Pirates and big brands with occasional boystyle, do they usually list ouji or should I just look on taobao and not worry about older prints?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 15:42:21 2015 No.8212190
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Does anybody know where to get Queen Bee shoes? All I could find were a few on amazon.jp.
Their designs are super cute and they are mostly cheaper than lolita brands, so it's a nice alternative. Are they are any other shoes brands that make shoes suited for sweet lolita that a bit on cheaper side that aren't replica? Not Bodyline cheap , but also not brand expensive.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:01:21 2015 No.8212225
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>>8212190
The only place I know is search-voi.0101.co.jp/voi/brand/11157/
Does anyone know why Dream-holic wigs is only on etsy now? The etsy store is in Sweden now and the shipping from there is just horrendous..

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:02:33 2015 No.8212226 >>8212225 That sounds a little fishy, anon.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:07:30 2015 No.8212238

>>8212225
I live in Sweden and when I ordered from them they shipped from China(probably due to the item I ordered not being in stock in their Swedish warehouse) and that took three weeks. They didn't tell me that they would be shipping from China, but I didn't ask so. I actually ordered that exact wig in the picture and it's not bad per se but it's not great either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 16:09:53 2015 No.8212242 >>8212238 Thanks! But I can no longer find the Taobao front. The page is just blank :( http://dream-holic.taobao.com/ €24 shipping on a €35 wig is just too much..

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:32:49 2015 No.8212392 Is SweetieCakes just gone forever? I really love the space themed tights she designed and I have her confetti tights, but her shop is empty and her blogs are all inactive as far as I can tell. Anyone know what happened?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:52:08 2015 No.8212439

Hello gulls, i have flat feet so most shoes that aren't boots or sneakers hurt me especially on the toe and lower part. I feel desperate because i need some pink or red shoes for sweet lolita but the confier loliable flats or small heeled mary janes are ugly as hell or never in pink, white or bright red. What i should do? Wedge lolita shoes could work? Like the bodyline ones? I bought some chunky bl heeled shoes but after a while my feet die of pain and a offbrand pink pair but still they are too narrow and my feet hurt. I feel like crying because i cant have cute shoes for sweet lolita...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 17:55:56 2015 No.8212453 >>8212439 Do your feet still hurt with insoles? I have foot problems too, and I found that padding the shit out of my shoes with a bunch of gel-insoles help a bit. And why not wear tea parties?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 18:02:43 2015 No.8212473

>>8212453
I tried two insoles (not gel ones, just two spongy insoles on each side), cotton on the toe box part and i saw the pain of the hell after an hour of walking, i had also otk cotton socks and nude tights. The pink pair i got now are flat but my toes are too big for the shoe and the size is the right one. I wanted to buy the bodyline tea parties but i fear they would be unconfortable... Maybe the gel insole is the last resort?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 18:05:24 2015 No.8212482

>>8212473
The bodyline flats are pretty comfortable.
If you can't wear lolita shoes you should find comfortable shoes in a color you like (or paint them that color) and then get some shoe clips to prettify them.
With some sweet, I think sneakers can also work. Like the more decora sweet side of things.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:00:52 2015 No.8212593

>>8211151
Are they all dressed in Lolita? I'm imagining middle aged Chinese women in puffa jackets who have spotted a money making opportunity
If they are in Lolita then I can see why it's hard for AP to prevent reselling because you don't know who's a genuine customer or not but if they are in normal clothes then why don't AP enforce a "no Lolita no entry" policy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:07:21 2015 No.8212607 >>8212225 Fuck. I need that bonnet in black or burgundy. It's gorgeous!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:10:03 2015 No.8212615 >>8212593 IIRC if the store's located in a mall they're not allowed to do that for discrimination reasons or something. Otherwise I remember one of AP's releases last year was like lolita-only.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:12:54 2015 No.8212623 >>8212190 >>8212225 Also try Rakuten and Amazon.jp. I've gotten Queen Bee shoes from shops on both of those platforms before.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:14:16 2015 No.8212627

>>8212190
Other good option, which I forgot to mention, is Yosuke USA. Particularly their Leche subline. There are certain shoes they re-release each year, with new materials/colourways. You can find sellers for them on YJA, Rakuten, and Amazon.jp, as well as second hand sales on YJA and mbok.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 19:18:51 2015 No.8212643 >>8212623 >>8212627 And one last thing. KERA has collab shoes on their shop, in addition to Yosuke: http://kerashop.jp/top/search/asp/list.asp?s_cate2_1=1600

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 20:26:42 2015 No.8212801 >>8212623 >>8212627 >>8212643 Thanks so much Anon!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 20:54:00 2015 No.8212861 Where are our seagull-lolis from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:27:42 2015 No.8213054 They deleted the BtB thread. I think we should move that discussion to egl because it clearly isn't wanted here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:33:04 2015 No.8213059 >>8213054 What discussion? The entire thread was just "waaah SJW are bad, I hate them" and a couple of trolls. There's not anything left to discuss.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:34:44 2015 No.8213063 I have an idea >make a topic in Rc Uncensored >When SJW reply, ignore them and talk to each other Dunno if it'd acsomplish anything but it would be funny

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:43:57 2015 No.8213081 >>8213063 do it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:47:58 2015 No.8213094 How long does it normally take from winning an auction on Yahoo Japan to getting your stuff? I'm using Buyee, my auctions finished yesterday and I'm just wondering how long the wait normally is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:53:08 2015 No.8213108 >>8213094 usually takes around a week for buyee to recieve the items, and around a day for them to give shipping quotes etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:55:19 2015 No.8213117 I hope I'm not a bother, but, the dress I want to buy has measurements of; Bust: 85~98cm Waist: 70~86cm And my measurements are; Bust: 85cm Waist: 70cm So will it look too big on me?

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 22:55:47 2015 No.8213118
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Momoji from the manga Cat Street. She's a self proclaimed lolita who makes her own dresses. She actually has a few good coords, though in the beginning they seem kind of ita.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 28 23:15:01 2015 No.8213157

>>8213117
does it have shirring?
I'm below AP's min measurements and I just tie the shirring a little tighter and it fits fine, the shirring is just a little bunched up at the back and doesn't look as nice but who cares, if you wear a long wig no one sees anyway.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 23:16:44 2015 No.8213164 >>8213118 >>8213145 >>8213153 >>8213158 Oh shit. Wrong thread. Sorry!

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 23:25:45 2015 No.8213186

>>8212473
Assuming you live in the US, if you can go to a Walmart that has the Dr. Scholls foot mapper, you migh try that. I'm flat footed and I pulled my Achilles tendon, and those things have really helped a ton. They're $50, but that's way cheaper than a visit to a foot doctor and their insoles, which would be my other suggestion.

Anonymous Sat Mar 28 23:35:38 2015 No.8213213

>>8213059
to be honest i'm just more pissed that twelve fucking secrets were samefagging so hard. it's fine to voice those opinions but holy shit it was obnoxious to scroll and see all of those. i agree with the OP of those but i want to punch them in the face at the same time, if that makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 23:36:17 2015 No.8213214 >>8213157 It says it has partial shirring, so I'll have to use that technique, thank you anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 23:45:44 2015 No.8213225 >>8213063 this is actually a good idea and I will do this the next time I start a topic

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 28 23:53:41 2015 No.8213244 >>8213108 Fabulous, thank you.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 01:58:32 2015 No.8213428

>>8212593
No, they're mostly dressed in lolita. I would say, for example, at the Milky Cross release, ~90% of people were dressed in lolita. Maybe 50% were wearing newer/popular prints, and the rest were either wearing coats (mostly lolita) or were wearing older/simpler pieces. I saw a girl in a Nameless Poem OP, actually.
I think the resellers are honestly probably lolitas themselves or like related to a lolita somehow, though, and ever since last year's "no lolita, no entry" release, I wouldn't be surprised if they come dressed up just to be safe. I think there's actually a lot of overlap between "genuine customer" and "shady reseller," so it makes it even harder to really combat the issue.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 05:31:55 2015 No.8213718 >>8213063 One SJW down. Not sure how I feel about this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 05:33:42 2015 No.8213722 >>8213718 I'm surprised, really.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 06:00:19 2015 No.8213738 >>8213718 Caps?

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 06:26:11 2015 No.8213761

>>8212473

Also chiming in. I have the Bodylines flats and they are really comfortable and even a bit large. I've also suffered with feet problems with relatively flat feet. My feet in North American sizes is 9 or 10 (depends on brand) and I ordered the 26 size for BL.

If you dont want to get doctor prescribed orthotics I'd also suggest the superfeet insoles. I got the blue ones for my jogging. They are actually quite hard and took my feet a bit to get used to them (they suggest slowly working into them, wearing only an hour at a time at first), but they were so worth it after.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 06:42:31 2015 No.8213778

>>8213117

It will fit you fine. I assume these are the measurements of the garment itself and not the suggested body width of the user?
You actually need 3~5cm extra room for a comfortable fit. If it has corset lacing in the back it will fit you even better.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 07:18:54 2015 No.8213811

>>8213213
I think it was pretty clearly one poster, but a group of people behind it. I saw someone in my comm talking about it, and the pictures involved seem to have been used with the owner's permission.

It felt like a pointless act even though I agree with the sentiments involved. It doesn't make me feel better at all to know that one small group of people cared enough to make a few secrets, when the comments are full of vitriolic trolls. If everyone accessed BtB by just looking at the pictures, rather than reading the comments, it would have been an injection of positivity. But since I read the comments it just made the negativity worse by bringing all the trolls out of the woodwork.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 07:28:12 2015 No.8213818

>>8213811
I don't really see how going "lolita =/= white" injects positivity, it's a negative statement. If you took the hamplanet they used for "lolita =/= thin" and made a secret that said "I really admire the way you dress and wish I could make my own dresses as well as you" that'd be positivity. This is just really uninspired, bitter and negative towards white, thin or female people (imagine the reaction towards "lolita =/= black" or "lolita =/= overweight").

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 07:57:26 2015 No.8213849

>>8213818

This so much! And why did it have to be repeated over and over? As a white person I do not think lolita equals white, that is just nonsense. In fact, I'm a member of many online comms and haven't actually seen anyone claim it was, perhaps from less than a handful of trolls.
To assume that all white lolitas think that way by itself is a racist assumption and a generalization against whites.
If they want racism to end I suggest they should take a long hard look in the mirror because they are no better. This is fighting fire with fire and pointless.
I'm not an sjw but I am against racism, from all sides. It's not a one sided/one way street, racism exists in all cultures and amongst all races and it isn't just Caucasians that are "guilty" of it.
And don't even get me started on the lolita =/= female and lolita =/= thin ones.
Most of us are very accepting of brolitas and trans peeps, and no, not everyone hates plus sized lolitas. Once again, to assume we all hate trans/brolitas and plus sized lolitas is by itself really ignorant and a generalization.
These images were (I think) supposed to be positive but if you look at the underlying message they really aren't. There was also no need to make 12. They could have combines them in 2 or 3 images and I think they would have been welcomed more. Right now, they just seem to peeve everyone off and they had the opposite effect of what the sjw OP was trying to achieve.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 08:09:34 2015 No.8213860

>>8213818
I don't see a problem with statements like that, since they're countering commonly-held assumptions. Lolita=overweight is not a commonly-held assumption, so lolita=/=overweight has a different ring to it than lolita=/=thin. >>8213849 is right though that I don't think anywhere near so many people hold these opinions IRL as trolls do online. It's certainly not a generalization though, and they're not trying to say all white lolitas think that way - they're just trying to show an opinion counter to the negative opinions out there (inb4 I made them - I didn't, I'm >>8213811). Nor do I think it's particularly negative towards female people when only one secret featured a brolita, and all the rest were female anyway (it'd be different if they were all overweight black brolitas but that's not what happened).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 10:09:53 2015 No.8213952 >>8206798 Does AP really stretch that far?!

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 10:24:35 2015 No.8213965

>>8213952
Depends on the dress but some of their shirred pieces are really plus size friendly. I don't know if that specific dress would be very flattering on someone with a 119 cm bust though(as the bodice is pretty short so it would probably be an empire waist fit on someone that big).

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 10:24:57 2015 No.8213966

>>8213818
>This is just really uninspired, bitter and negative towards white, thin or female people
It's really not.
For the sake of your mental health don't take generalizations people make in pithy platitudes as a personal attack.
I think all those secrets could be best summed up as
>"Not every lolita is a white, thin, and female."
That, to me, is not a statement of attack against white, thin, and female lolitas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:05:16 2015 No.8214021 >>8213966 Except it's purposely phrased as an attack on what they perceive to be what people believe. And not a positive celebration. It's not about the message but the presentation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:11:39 2015 No.8214032 >>8214021 I don't see how something that's not necessarily stated in a positive way means it's an attack against that group of people.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:13:19 2015 No.8214036
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On lacemarket this auction/seller was listed as local to me so I messaged her to see if she was in my comm and could bring the dress to the next bi-monthly meet. She messaged me saying that the dress is actually in China? This seems problematic to me..

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:14:38 2015 No.8214038

>>8214021
Except it's not an attack, it's just poor prhasing.

Look, this entire thing is stupid. You're looking for reasons to be offended by a bunch of 13-year old tumblrita sjw edgelords who think that spamming btb with obvious bait constitutes a raid.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:18:01 2015 No.8214041

>>8214032
>>8214038
I'm not offended. I'm just saying it's not a wave of positivity but a poor backslash at some girl who associates lolita with pale skin. Unless you all saw that and were positively surprised that there are people who are't thin or female or white and still lolita.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:41:18 2015 No.8214087 >>8214036 You should report her. This seems fishy to me. Also it may course problems with shipping.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 11:44:31 2015 No.8214094

>>8214041
Uh...I don't really know what you're referencing but given the context of the images themselves, without the bizarre tumblr raid backstory, those secrets aren't that offensive and there's no reason to take them as personal attacks against thin white lolitas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:02:31 2015 No.8214124 >>8207961 some people just have big boobs...

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:09:49 2015 No.8214134 Anyone know where to buy plain non-printed skirts in many colorways ? I am looking for adding more casual items in my wardrobe..

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:13:08 2015 No.8214139 >>8214134 Bodyline.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:20:10 2015 No.8214149

>>8213966
It literally is a negative statement, that's not an opinion. It is phrased "is not equal to". It's a not, a negative. I don't disagree with the sentiment, but I agree that the phrasing was uneducated. Like when you're in an argument you are supposed to say "I feel hurt when you do y" rather than "You always do y and it hurts me".

Basically their phrasing can feel exclusive to some rather than inclusive, even if it wasn't the intent. Some people may read into "is not" rather than "is not only". If whoever wrote this is reading cgl, please realize I'm saying this as a fellow activist to HELP you!

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:29:17 2015 No.8214173

>>8208004
Fashion is and should be just for you, Lolita fashion is awesome because there are (online) communities and all but what is the most important is that you like the clothes themselves, without that what is even the function of it..only criticising or watching stuff doesn't really matter I guess. Do what you like :)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:36:54 2015 No.8214188 >>8207961 Not that anon but I've lost over 20lbs before and did not lost a single cm from my bustline. I did lose from my ribcage though, so my band size went down. It was annoying.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:42:31 2015 No.8214196

Not sure if this is the right place to post?
But I'm new to Lolita and I love Moitie and I want to buy this choker http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Moi-Meme-Moitie-Choker-Gothic-Lolita-Mana-Sama-/221722592723?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item339fb245d3

Does it look legit?
Is it normal to find brand on ebay?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:54:32 2015 No.8214212 >>8214196 http://lolibrary.org/apparel/mmm-candlestick-ruffle-choker Seems legitimate to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 12:56:13 2015 No.8214214 >>8207961 Weight: 110lb. Height: 5'4". Boobs: 28F. I don't think diet will help me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:13:04 2015 No.8214239 >>8214212 Thank you x

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:18:14 2015 No.8214251 >>8214087 She says she's an international college student and didn't bring it back this semester because she was considering selling it in China, and offered to let me cancel my purchase. idk though.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 13:59:09 2015 No.8214327

Last year around the first days of april IW released their popular Oddment Packs, and because I was away from my computer I missed it. I hven't forgiven myself for that and saved up all year to be able to buy the large 80 000 yen pack this year but I'm so afraid I will miss it. Does anybody know if they will be released soon? It's always around april I believe?

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 14:54:45 2015 No.8214419

>>8214139
Bodyline's actually a pretty shit suggestion because their non-print skirts, L325 aside, are actually nearly all awful. It's easy to handmake a simple rectangle skirt in a more oldschool design, you can buy them from indie brands if you really can't do that (Peacockalorum/Stocking Shock does decent plain skirts). There's also F+F - what you get can be hit-and-miss, but they have some nice simpler designs. Of course if you bothered to look through the long list of Taobao shops out there you'd find that a lot offer plainer skirts, typically in at least three or four colourways. For simple designs that can be customized, I recommend Miss Point. I like pic related, and you can pick the colour.

This is their skirt section: http://miss-point.taobao.com/category-366295100.htm?spm=a1z10.1-c.0.0.OG96Ky&search=y&parentCatId=260471336&parentCatName=%B0%AE%C9%E8%BC%C6+%D4%AD%B4%B4%B7%FE%D7%B0%26amp%3B%B7%FE%CA%CE&catName=%B0%EB%C8%B9%B6%CC%BF%E3

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:05:17 2015 No.8214434 >>8214419 Thank you very much anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:11:38 2015 No.8214446 File: 69 KB, 458x687, TB2cNNhaVXXXXaoXXXXXXXXXXXX_!!555372357.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8214419 Dropped pic.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 15:29:37 2015 No.8214483
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I'm interested in the cardigan pictured, but when the dress went up for pre-order, the cardi and otks didn't. Does anyone know anything about how JetJ does non-main piece releases? Do they come out a week later, or not go up for pre-order or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 16:24:29 2015 No.8214557 File: 259 KB, 500x600, 03031207_54f52554898a5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the most popular Dream Marine colourway?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 16:41:49 2015 No.8214580 >>8214483 Those are some fine OTKs and jacket too. Everything JetJ is better if it's not some shoddily constructed dress.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 16:47:37 2015 No.8214588

>>8212439
I suggest the antaina wedge shoe. It has a cork bottom and is relatively flat but reps the sweet lolita look. Use an insole, but the shoe in general is pretty wide. You can also get the star engineer boots in pink (by AP or replica by secret shop).

>>8212473
>my toes are too big for the shoe and the size is the right one
Its probably not the right size then. Just sell them and go up a size.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 16:51:21 2015 No.8214593 >>8213966 >For the sake of your mental health don't take generalizations people make in pithy platitudes as a personal attack. by the way youre acting, you should take your own advice

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 16:55:31 2015 No.8214601

The first time I wore lolita out was at an anime con two years ago. At the time I felt really happy because I got a lot of compliments on my outfit and six or so people asked for photos during the four hours I was at the con, and some positive comments when I later posted it anonymously online. But looking back on it I feel a bit embarrassed to think that people have photos of it, since it wasn't a great coord. No hair accessory, didn't trim bangs on wig (although it wasn't that noticeable because they were pretty much the right length anyway), nothing on hands or wrists despite wearing a short-sleeved dress, makeup wasn't great and I'd had an outbreak of spots just before the con that I couldn't completely cover up. But then on the other hand, even though it was incomplete I at least didn't have any issues with colour coordination, the dress and bag were both good quality and matched really well, the tights and shoes were cute and still match, and the necklace and wig I had matched too.

Problem is that I'm so used to /cgl/ standards of nitpicking that I can't tell if it was merely a "not perfect" coord or one that's actually worth getting embarrassed about, and I don't have photos of it any more.

Has anyone else had similar experiences with being embarrassed in hindsight by a first coord even though it wasn't outright ita? Can they advise?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 16:57:23 2015 No.8214606 >>8214601 Advise on what? It's over and done.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:06:22 2015 No.8214625 >>8214606 Ack, I dunno. I just worry that it'll turn up in an ita thread someday if someone gets a vendetta against me, since people dig up old and unflattering as fuck photos for those things.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:09:54 2015 No.8214634 >>8214625 I'd be proud to post a before after picture if that happens to show your progress. Then of course the after picture will be nitpicked to hell and back but you know the drill.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:10:08 2015 No.8214635 >>8214593 >14 year old detected >NO U!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:13:43 2015 No.8214644 >>8214483 According to the text on that picture, looks like the cardigan and the socks will be available to order starting on April 3rd, and will be finished and mailed in sometime July (they are made to order like the dress is).

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:16:09 2015 No.8214649 >>8214644 >in sometime July Derp, I meant "sometime in July". Probably like mid-July, actually.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:18:09 2015 No.8214652

>>8214634
That might be a good idea. I should probably just not worry about it and thank Mana-sama that I didn't have a really ita first coord, but people on here are so quick to scream "No hair accessory? Ita!" that it makes me paranoid. I never even realised how much people cherry-picked photos for BtB and the like until I joined a comm. Seeing a girl in my comm get a secret posted about her with a photo so old I didn't even recognise her until I saw people commenting "Is this X?" made me realise how deep people trawled for them. Before that I'd always assumed they just used current photos with the most unflattering expressions they could find.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:50:13 2015 No.8214721 >>8214483 Anyone know the artist of this print? I love the art style.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 17:56:15 2015 No.8214736 >>8214721 Shigeru Mizuki

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 18:39:23 2015 No.8214826 File: 719 KB, 606x604, huh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who is that in lolita?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 20:10:03 2015 No.8214965 >>8214588 Which one is the Antaina wedge shoe you mean?I wanted the AP replica enginner boots but i need shoes useful also for summer with ankle socks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 20:37:37 2015 No.8215008 >>8214826 Himezawa.

Anonymous Sun Mar 29 20:51:24 2015 No.8215043

I'm looking to investing in some new petticoats. I have a good idea of what I want for my full bell-shaped and A-line petticoat, but now I want a softer A-line petticoat that's good for my high/empire waist dresses because the skirts are not very wide. I've had a mixed experience with Victoriangirldress's petticoat, and I was wondering if there was something similar to it that isn't made with such a scratchy material (I don't want the material scratching against the skirt's lining) - kind of like kirakirajenjen's ?

Would CP's A-line #3 be too full of a silhouette?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 21:37:24 2015 No.8215142 >>8214965 its on their website, although im too tired to look for it. Its the tea party style one with cork bottoms

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 29 21:53:18 2015 No.8215168 >>8214251 feedback?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 03:29:20 2015 No.8215751 ok, the listed measurements for the cosmic OP are "free" bust and waist but no really what is the bust and waist? fattychan here.

Anonymous Mon Mar 30 04:49:28 2015 No.8215842
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>tfw wanted to make a thread about lolita socks, because they're my favourite part of lolita and I wanted to see people's collections and chat about socks
>realised it made me sound like a creepy leg fetish guy
>posting here instead while trawling old wardrobe posts to admire socks

Does anyone have like a dream sock they'd buy in a heartbeat if it existed? For me, that's IW style floral but on a wider range of base colours such as dusty pink or spring green.

Anonymous Mon Mar 30 04:59:55 2015 No.8215854

>>8215842
I adore IW style florals, but I also wish that they were available in more colors.
I have contemplated painting my own socks to match my dresses, but I don't know how.

I really want the IW anniversary rose otks (I think that is their name, they have flowers and a sax blue bow printed on them)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 05:10:59 2015 No.8215862 >>8215842 Fug. I feel the exact same about petticoats, but there is a creepy male following for those as well. Anyway there are so many socks in UTK style I wish were OTK. There is no way in hell I'd suit UTK socks, ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 05:59:29 2015 No.8215891 File: 475 KB, 1441x627, da6eea592d552d0c81b527e3e69be273.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Welp. Anyone got a spare $2000 just laying around? >thank fucking christ this is not a dream dress of mine

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 06:12:18 2015 No.8215901 File: 90 KB, 500x500, tumblr_mwpjfjrot31qcmjsdo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>8215842

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 06:26:04 2015 No.8215918 >>8215842 Eh, just make a sock thread. We have petticoat threads all the time and that's not a big deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 06:30:41 2015 No.8215925 >>8215891 I'm honestly almost willing to do a payment plan, but that price is really steep. I'd probably do it if it was 1000.

Anonymous Mon Mar 30 08:19:32 2015 No.8216000

>>8215854
I've seen some hand-painted ones on tumblr, but I think you need to use stocking-type material to do that.

>>8215862
Haha yeah, being thought of as a creeper is not my idea of fun. I feel the same about UTKs, I still have some pairs from my early days sitting around... I like them too much to sell but not enough to wear.

Anonymous Mon Mar 30 08:25:24 2015 No.8216006

>>8215891

I'm no fan of AP but I'd understand people might shell out a $1000 for something this popular and rare.
But is this $1800 a fair price though? I know it's well sought after and popular but is it actually worth that? Where did she get that price from?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 08:38:20 2015 No.8216026 >>8216006 she's probably just testing the waters just because someone prices say, IW grazia crown for $1000 it doesn't mean it's worth that until someone buys it (also, the 'worth' of any item depends on the individual blah blah)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 08:41:11 2015 No.8216031 >>8216026 Yeah I figured. She's probably trying to get as much as she can for this. In all fairness, who wouldn't!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 08:41:49 2015 No.8216034 >>8216031 I would pay $500 for it. She should sell it to me for $500.

Anonymous Mon Mar 30 11:15:17 2015 No.8216221
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What S.S. does /cgl/ recommend for in store shopping at Laforet (for swimmer)?

>I tried google and EGL search, but the ones I'm finding are no longer active for in store shopping at Laforet, only auctions and other locations

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 11:38:51 2015 No.8216254 >>8216221 Does it need to be Laforet specifically? Tenshi shop can go to Swimmer but the Sendai location

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 11:47:46 2015 No.8216263 >>8216254 Yeah, for items that are only at the Laforet location (she was the first one I tried because I had forgotten that)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 11:48:38 2015 No.8216265 why does lolita suck so much? Like, everyone I know just sucks dick

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 11:58:52 2015 No.8216279 >>8216265 edgy

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 12:00:28 2015 No.8216283 >>8216034 poorfag

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 12:01:28 2015 No.8216284 >>8215901 hnng

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 30 13:14:11 2015 No.8216391 >>8216265 Gr8 b8 m8.

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