Out of the Loop

[Anonymous No.8197360]

ITT stupid questions you're afraid to ask

I'll start: what's the difference between a Bolero and a Cardigan?

[Anonymous No.8197364]

I think boleros are usually shorter

[Anonymous No.8197366]

Why do people defend replica shoes so much.

Is it because they want to believe the quality is actually better?

[Anonymous No.8197368]

>>8197366
I think it's because it's hard to come up with a completely original design for shoes. Most lolita shoes are fairly simple....so it's hard to pinpoint who the OG was.

Shoes don't usually have prints like dresses do

[Anonymous No.8197373]

>>8197368

I mean more arguing that secret shop shoes are same quality as AP

>SS shoes fell apart in three wears and were poor construction to begin with

>AP shoes are going on three years now as my most worn shoes and have minor scuffing

[Anonymous No.8197375]

>>8197360
From what I've seen, boleros either don't fasten in the front, or only have a single point of fastening (ribbon tie, single button, etc). But japanese clothing terminology in relation to loan words is so inconsistent anyway...

>>8197366
Accessibility to what is a luxury hobby. Which isn't to say that people who own only brand are all rich, but buying replicas is a faster means of attaining a larger wardrobe.

At the same time, even if someone says they don't care what others think of what they wear, they probably don't want to be painted as "lazy" or a "bad person" for buying into counterfeiting/art theft.

[Anonymous No.8197377]

>>8197373
if it's specifically a quality comparison, I would definitely have to say Brand is always better (at least in my experience)


however, I feel like people have issues dropping $300 on shoes and would rather buy the cheaper knock-off and find a way to justify it to themselves.

[Anonymous No.8197378]

>>8197375
Ah, sorry, I missed the "shoes" in that. Disregard the second part of this post.

[Anonymous No.8197385]

>>8197373
I hear that Baby shoes scuff up pretty easy in comparison. Personally I don't really care much about shoe replicas as much as prints. Then again I'm classic/goth and it's pretty easy to find shoes in normalfag brands that work great. Meanwhile those in the sweet department don't have it so easy finding things in pink and mint that come in grownup sizes.

[Anonymous No.8197387]

>>8197373
I would never drop over $100 on shoes that aren't even real leather
brand+high price does not necessarily mean quality.

[Anonymous No.8197390]

Don't have a lot of money to put together a nice brand coord right now. I'm having a lot of fun though hunting down vintage blouses and etsy accessories to put together what I consider to be a solid bodyline coord. But when I go to the meets will people just get sick of seeing that same bodyline girl in that same bodyline coord all the time?

[Anonymous No.8197394]

>>8197390
Yes.

[Anonymous No.8197397]

>>8197390
Yes. You don't think people will remember but they do, especially in lolita where photos are constantly being taken and put online.

[Anonymous No.8197399]

>>8197397
Is it alright to wear now and then? I think the dress surprisingly decent for Bodyline

[Anonymous No.8197400]

>>8197390
Yep! Only way to successfully do the Bodyline thing is to have several main pieces vs one brand piece and switch them and your supporting pieces and accessories up, preferably with a bit of brand. Even then, if they are prints, it gets old fast.

[Anonymous No.8197401]

>>8197399
It's ok but nothing stand-out. Everyone has seen it, has it or had it. Unless they hate it.

[Anonymous No.8197403]

>>8197399
That looks pretty nice, but I would suggest having a couple more pieces and wear them in rotation. You don't have to dive straight into brand, and hunt for secondhand brand. In the long run it might be more fruitful than buying 'loliable' thrift store finds.

[Anonymous No.8197469]

>>8197360
>>8197364
Yes boleros are usually shorter in the torso ending around the chest area while cardis go to waist or hips

[Anonymous No.8197474]

>>8197387
This. I'm incredibly rough on shoes.
I'll happily spend $300+ on genuine leather boots/shoes, but not on something Lolita Brand quality, which will almost certainly last me no longer than $40 Antaina ones.

[Anonymous No.8197480]

>>8197366
I'm only angry at people who are against print replicas but have no problem buying rip off tea parties, and hiding behind the excuse of "vague" designability when actually tea parties are a specific design as well as most other shoe replicas I've seen, namely IW boot replicas and WV replicas.

[Anonymous No.8197486]

>>8197366
because most people buy expensive dresses but not expensive shoes, because shoes are way more easy to get by and most people only wear them like 3 times a year anyway so they don't mind the quality difference.

[Anonymous No.8197487]

>>8197486

>3 times a year

See, THAT makes sense to me. Why spend all the money when you won't wear it often?

I just get irritated when people tell me they're equal quality.

[Anonymous No.8197494]

>>8197385
I have several Baby shoes and boots and frankly they're only slightly better quality than Bodyline. My Bodyline boots actually lasted a lot longer than my Baby ones. For really unique designs I'll still go for brand, but for simple low heels with bows on them I'd rather buy from Bodyline or Taobao.

[Anonymous No.8197505]

>>8197400
So it's fine to wear a Bodyline main piece occasionally if it's interspersed with brand main pieces? Is wearing the same brand coord twice frowned upon as badly too? I'm relatively new to lolita (only have around 3 brand main pieces) and I don't buy lolita every month like some girls but I'd still like to go to meets.

[Anonymous No.8197523]

>>8197373
I donno man my SS shoes have held up for years while still looking presentable and clean. I'd probably only buy brand shoes 2nd hand. I'd rather pay $150-$200 for nicer shoes with better materials. I'm all for buying a whole set directly from the brand but I feel like the shoes just aren't worth the cost. That said, I've not bought any replica shoes in the last two years but I still wear the ones I have. If I attended a brand event, I'd just go with some nice offbrand shoe.

[Anonymous No.8197534]

>>8197366
Because the originals are expensive to purchase but cheaply made from PU/vinyl, so not much different to replicas. Unless it's JM's leather shoes.

[Anonymous No.8197535]

>>8197390
I'd say since it's a plain coloured piece, provided you can wear it in several different ways it's okay to wear it multiple times as long as each coord is sufficiently different. Even if you got a second main piece that would work with a similar base of accompanying pieces and jut alternated between the two for meet-ups for now you'd be okay. Like, not ideal, but okay.

[Anonymous No.8197540]

>>8197360
boleros are shorter AND don't cover the whole chest. you can theoretically wear a cardigan on its own if you button it up and have the right height skirt on, but if you wear a bolero by itself you'll look like you're in an early 2000s Brittany Spears music video.

that's how I remember it anyway

[Anonymous No.8197572]

Are there any other in-store shopping services besides the ones I always hear about (Chibi Tenshi, Mirukuma, Tokyo Pirates) that anyone could recommend? I always wonder if there's a better chance of snagging a release if you buy from a smaller store branch of AP, Baby, Meta, etc. like in Kyoto or Osaka. But it seems like most SS are located around Tokyo? I know CT is in Sendai(?)...

Any recommendations would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.8197587]

>>8197366
Because it's not illegal, and they want to spend less, so they want it to be ok. The ones who get so passionate about it defend them so hard because they don't want to think about the fact that what they are doing may not be morally sound. So they convince themselves that it's ok so they feel better about it.

However, I talked to someone in the industry and they told me that a designer (not saying who) was really crushed when she found out someone was making copies of her shoes because she had worked so hard on them. After hearing that, I can't in good conscious buy fakes of lolita shoes. I either buy the real thing, or I buy something that isn't a copy.

[Anonymous No.8197640]

how do i know which sock goes on which foot?

[Anonymous No.8197668]

>>8197640
Check official worn images. Or eyeball it. It's too nitpicky to bring up. Patterns are usually L-R reversible.

[Anonymous No.8197693]

>>8197640
If there is a pattern down the side, the pattern goes on the outside. If there is a pattern down both sides, the larger pattern goes on the outside.

If there is only a pattern down the front or the back, look at adverts or pick what you think looks best. I prefer little animals looking in towards each other most of the time.

[Anonymous No.8197752]

>>8197387

Yeah, this.

I was lucky to snag some AATP boots for around $45, but you can tell the quality is subpar to most of my leather shoes.

[Anonymous No.8197767]

>>8197366
I don't see myself spending about 130$ on a not extra ordinary design like Teaparties made of PU. Would they be like 80$ I'd buy them in a heartbeat.
On top I'm clumsy and I know I'd scruff them rather quick. That doesn't hurt much with 60$ replicas. Even though I try going with BL shoes nowadays, I wish they would add lavender and mint as colors.

About the quality argument: I remeber the myth that SS shoes are made in the same factory as the AP shoes. Maby that's why poeple say they have the same quality?

On a related note would you say pic related are knock offs or replicas? They a really similar to the original designs but also have some minor differences.

[Anonymous No.8197833]

>>8197505
>>8197535
>>8197397

This really depends on your comm and how often you will be going to meets. If you're in a relatively small comm and you go to meets frequently like 2 times a month and you see the same people every time they will get sick of the coord. But if you're in a large city comm or you only plan on going to 3 meets a year then I would just save and wait patiently for a dream piece. If you are strapped for cash don't feel pressured to choose between paying rent and burando.

[Anonymous No.8197870]

>>8197400
You don't want to wear the same coord 2x in a row, even if you only had one main piece. A big part of the fashion is changing up the coords, not by making like a 'lolita uniform' coord.
No one is likely to say anything but it also depends how often people in your comm get new things, how often they meet and how much they post group pix and talk about lolita clothes at meets. It varies a lot from group to group. I try not to get in a rut with my favorites or my most comfy things but it's hard too when I've made a coord I particularly like.

[Anonymous No.8197878]

>>8197366
cuz i got big feet son

[Anonymous No.8197904]

Where does everyone keep seeing bodyline's new releases or what's coming up? How do you find out about them?

Like people were freaking out when they announced they were going to start to sell gold shoes, but how did you find out they were going to before they actually started selling them?

[Anonymous No.8197905]

What's the actual name of this dress?
It's been around since the dawn of time and I've only seen the silly milanoo-esque names for it like 'PINK FRILLY KAWAI LOLITA CHEAP DRESS"

I do want to get it just because Ive always liked it, but I'm assuming its no longer made (the original) so I'm trying to see if I can get a quality replica of it.

[Anonymous No.8197911]

>>8197905
I think it's Ekatarina by Mary Magdalene.

[Anonymous No.8197921]

I'm here for cosplay not lolita, but I browse loli threads when I'm bored. What the fuck does "sax" mean?

[Anonymous No.8197925]

>>8197921
light blue

[Anonymous No.8197929]

>>8197921
It's short for saxony blue or light blue. Japan picked it.

[Anonymous No.8197933]

>>8197921
saxophone

[Anonymous No.8197934]

>>8197878
Ditto, I'd gladly buy brand shoes if any fit me but I understand why it's not profitable too.

[Anonymous No.8197935]

>>8197905
I love that watermark over the top of it.

Memorize that background, anon. It's a tell-tale sign of a Mary Magdalene dress.
They don't stock a lot and they sell-out of dresses really quickly, so their things are hard to come by, but completely worth it.

[Anonymous No.8197937]

>>8197505
I wear alot of modified Bodyline with thrifted/offbrand and keep getting asked if I'm wearing x brand. It's how you get creative and change it up. Some girls have even screenprinted or embroidered their Bodyline.

[Anonymous No.8197942]

>>8197904
Probably checking their japanese site/rakuten and Facebook page

[Anonymous No.8197962]

>>8197925
>>8197929
Thanks. Never would have guessed.

>>8197933
I did think there was a really popular saxophone print for a while.

[Anonymous No.8197981]

>>8197935
I'm sure. Is hopeless to find a non-milanoo replica of it? I saw a normal fag wearing a replica that wasn't too bad, but i stupidly never asked where she got it. (she was wearing it without a petty-too so I was pretty impressed with the quality)

[Anonymous No.8197989]

>>8197937
I have access to an embroidery machine nad software so I think I could try it. Hard to pick a motif though.

Also on the flip side I've seen people wear what they say is AP but I would have sworn was Bodyline or F+F

[Anonymous No.8198035]

>>8197366
I don't care about the "shoes have vague designs" argument so much as the fact that no matter how much weight I lose I'm still gonna have huge goddamn feet.

[Anonymous No.8198084]

>>8197480
But why, though? Designs are generic in shoes, every lolita shoe either has straps, bows or both, just like in regular fashion, which is why copying a design isn't illegal. The only reason prints are bad is because it's considered art so it's art theft if you replicate a print. You can't copyright something that every other shoe is going to have.

[Anonymous No.8198094]

I don't get a "Stupid Cosplay Questions" vibe going here but I'll ask anyways.

I'm thinking of cosplaying as Amon from Tokyo Ghoul but in the manga he is wearing a black blazer with a black tie and in the anime he is shown wearing a blue-ish/green-ish blazer with a solid or dotted? similar colored tie. I have a dark grey overcoat (even though his is a light grey overcoat), would wearing it instead of the blazers be a better idea so that people aren't confused as to who I am cosplaying or should I just not be so lazy (as I feel like a difference in color/shade may be seen as laziness in the eyes of others) and just pick one of the blazers to wear instead of doing that?

Images are referenced in the link:

http://tokyoghoul.wikia.com/wiki/Koutarou_Amon?file=Amon_Cover_Vol_9.png

I'd appreciate any input I can get on this.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.8198120]

>>8198094
Unless you have the case or his weapon no one will know who you are unless you're in a group. None will care about complete color accuracy but they'll be men on a normal clothes cosplay without any defining props

[Anonymous No.8198130]

>>8198120

I fully intend to make one of his weapons as that is what draws me to cosplay and I can see where you are coming from with that. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.8198140]

Is wearing wrist cuffs with a long sleeve blouse a thing/ or acceptable?

[Anonymous No.8198155]

>>8197767
The bottom shoes are Baby replicas, the top ones I'm not sure but they look heavily inspired by the JetJ shoes

[Anonymous No.8198172]

>>8198094
your eye brows better be perfect

[Anonymous No.8198180]

>>8198172

I'll do my best.

[Anonymous No.8198190]

>>8197385
>I hear that Baby shoes scuff up pretty easy in comparison.
they do but they're SO DAMN COMFY

[Anonymous No.8198194]

Why do people even buy Bodyline? You can get secondhand brand for cheaper :/

[Anonymous No.8198204]

w-why is punk lolita considered dead? Nana Kitade with her punk coordinates were like my lolita inspiration for a long time.

[Anonymous No.8198221]

>>8198194
Some people don't know where to look. A newbie lolita wouldn't know about Lacemarket or LJ comms, let alone navigating Y!J.

Bodyline's easy.

>>8198204
The Hot Topic lolis killed it.

[Anonymous No.8198223]

>>8198194
Sometimes you can't find specific secondhand brand in your size, or you don't want to try navigating a selling community or taking the gamble on the quality of a resale. Bodyline has a "babby's first lolita" feel to it - on a scale of Milanoo/Hot Topic to brand, it's in the middle. You've done some research, you're not quite ready to commit to the expense of a new brand piece, but you do want something that's new.

[Anonymous No.8198270]

>>8197934
I think it's funny how this argument is totally acceptable in the matter of shoes while God forbid a fatty-chan from using this to defend replicas.

inb4 I don't wanna start a thing here. I just find it funny.

[Anonymous No.8198301]

>>8198270
Because most people can usually lose weight but it's not that simple to change the size of your feet? I have no problem telling fatties to lose some weight if possible to fit into brand, but I'm not going to expect someone to do fucking foot-binding or anything to fit into some over priced tea parties, son.

[Anonymous No.8198313]

>>8197981
The only replica I've seen that I've thought was decent was from Kidsyoyo, but I've never seen it for sale anywhere. The real deal pops up in a variety of colorways on Y!J every couple months or so, though, it's honestly not that hard to get your hands on it if you're even a little patient.

[Anonymous No.8198323]

>>8198270
Because copying designs != art theft. Replicas = art theft (which is illegal) and designs = generic. You can't copyright a generic design, especially when it's just bows, straps and cut-outs. Notice how 99% of clothes look exactly the same? Yeah, they're not copying each other, and it's the same thing with lolita. There's a reason you can't copyright clothes.

[Anonymous No.8198328]

>>8197904
Bodyline has a FB page

[Anonymous No.8198330]

>>8198140
That was how they were originally supposed to be worn.

[Anonymous No.8198333]

>>8198194
or sometimes we just want something that if it gets dirty you're not flipping ten kinds of shit over it. so get off your fucking high horse.

[Anonymous No.8198335]

>>8198301
Thanks for clearing that out, anon. I didn't think like that before. But you could also get cute non-replica shoes that come in larger size.

But what about people with humongous breast? They also just can't make their boobs go away. Would that justify replicas?

Btw, I personally don't think replicas are ever justifiable.

[Anonymous No.8198394]

>>8198204
don't even remind about how dead punk loli is ;_; nana kitade has always been my Lolita idol i still listen to her to this day, her corseted and union jack co-ord in the glb english vol.1 has always been my favourite co-ord even 6 years later

[Anonymous No.8198396]

>>8198335
You can safely bind your chest most of the time.

Barring a few, brand shoes are almost the same and they copy one another anyways.

Also the brands can't even distinguish replicas of their own shoes from the real ones when someone is wearing them.

[Anonymous No.8198429]

>>8198330
I thought it was for short sleeve coords. So I won't look completely ridiculous?

[Anonymous No.8198437]

>>8198429
I think it depends on the sleeves length and overall construction.

[Anonymous No.8198668]

>>8197905
this dress always makes me so sad. I've seen more bad replicas of it than the real thing, and whenever I see the original I just think of the shiny satin knockoff and it ruins it for me.

[Anonymous No.8198675]

>>8198140
I have to because I'm tall, and sleeves are never long enough on me

[Anonymous No.8198679]

>>8198204
Because nobody really wears it, and when it is worn, it's a noob who wants to be edgy and unique. I want to see more of it, you should wear it for me!

[Anonymous No.8198717]

what's the difference between otome and casual lolita?

[Anonymous No.8198719]

>>8198717
Casual lolita has to have petticoat while otome doesn't. Otome doesn't have a lot of rules I'm guessing...

[Anonymous No.8198734]

>>8198717
>>8198719
Otome =/= lolita w/o petticoats or casual loli.

Google Emily Temple Cute. It's basically if lolita was forced to tone down and become a little more acceptable in society.

[Anonymous No.8198748]

>>8198717
>>8198719
>>8198734
also otome is significantly less obsessed with matching colors/patterns/themes.

it's more whimsical than lolita and has no real "rules" (so shorts, pants etc can work with it although it's less common).

[Anonymous No.8198759]

>>8197366
Literally size 11.
That's all.

[Anonymous No.8198763]

>>8197981
>>8197905
Now that >>8197911 has given you the name, let me give you some advice. You can find Ekatarina dresses in the secondhand market. MM has released similar designs in recent years, as well. But unless you're thin enough to wear the original version and have very good coording skills, don't get the replica. It almost always looks like utter shit on plus size girls and is fairly difficult to coord. I'm happy to have someone else prove me wrong with pictures, but for the most part, what I've said seems true to me. Furthermore, unless you want all these crazy anti-replica-chans up your ass, don't get this dress. No, it isn't a print, but it's one of the most well-known dresses in the lolita world.

[Anonymous No.8198768]

>>8198204
It's difficult to pull off. Typically it only looks good on Asian girls on glossy magazine pages for some reason. Idk why, but the weird color pairings and mixed motifs just look like shit otherwise,no matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.8198771]

Here's my stupid question:
I know that ITT means "In This Thread" but what's the proper use for it?

[Anonymous No.8198773]

>>8197366
I'm going to be a little rude here, but to clarify: I do not hate fat people.

It is partially because dress replicas (design or print) are frequently associated with plus size girls who can't fit into brand. And being too fat in our society is seen as a personal flaw. It is something you can control, it is your fault. Eat less, exercise more, don't buy replicas.

Larger feet, as westerners tend to have rather than Asians, that are above a size L or LL can get custom antaina replicas (and I think bodyline also runs bigger?). Big feet fall into the genetic "not your fault" category.

[Anonymous No.8198782]

>>8198771
You use it whenever you say "in this thread".

[Anonymous No.8198793]

>>8198782
then why don't we use it on every thread?

[Anonymous No.8198797]

>>8197366
I don't fit into any brand shoes. I won't wear design replica shoes to any brand tea though, that is no problem. I have some high street maryjanes to use. They fit the fashion well enough.

[Anonymous No.8198800]

>>8198793
because it makes you sound autistic.
>In this thread, we are going to discuss how to do makeup!

[Anonymous No.8198807]

>>8198800
That's true. I guess I just see it used selectively, so I thought there was some sort of grammatical or situational rule for when to use it

[Anonymous No.8198814]

Im a novice seamter (just assuming thats the spelling) and one thing ive almost always wondered. What decides fabric choices?

I get shiny v. not shiny and simple things like that, as in i can tell when people choose something way wrong, but im always afraid what i go for wont be right.

[Anonymous No.8198823]

What is this kind of pvc pipe called with the end that screws? Searching up pvc drop pipe doesn't help much.

[Anonymous No.8198835]

>>8198807
Yeah, you seem autistic but I will try to help. It is used mainly for thread starters when you want to be short and to the point.
>ITT: makeup
>ITT: wig tutorials
It's also used outside of the OP post to joke about threads going to shit or express opinions about threads and the people posting in them.
>ITT: Itas
>ITT: tumblr SJWs
>ITT: people not reading the thread topic

[Anonymous No.8198841]

>>8198335
As someone else mentioned, you can safely bind or minimize breasts. I do so for a few of my blouses (size L chest, size M waist, feels bad man). Feet, not so much.

I really like fashion and have studied design, and I personally don't have a problem with replicas of simple designs, even though I don't buy them myself (at least not on purpose, I did so starting out with a couple bags when I didn't know better). There are only so many ways to put bows and straps on a shoe, whereas print theft is art theft. But I do appreciate that you're consistent and agree that there are plenty of other shoe options out there. I just won't personally condemn someone for buying Flats with Bows and Straps Lookalike #478, especially when it's impossible for them to fit into the real deal.

[Anonymous No.8198842]

>>8198835
This clarifies. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.8198851]

When is it acceptable to flip shit over a SAL package? My poor dress has "been preparing shipment" for seven weeks.

[Anonymous No.8198887]

Finally a thread where (I hope) I won't look like a twat asking this.

Is it socially acceptable within a community to order a coffee-based beverage at a meet up at a tea house? I honestly can't stand tea for the life of me, and my community always seems to go to tea parties. It's a shame because they're really fun and the sandwiches and cakes are delicious.

[Anonymous No.8198902]

>>8198823
Threaded pvc pipe

[Anonymous No.8198903]

>>8198887
People who don't like tea usually have never any tea other than lipton. If you get your own drinks go for it I guess, but actually try tea sometime.

[Anonymous No.8198910]

>>8198903
I've tried a lot of different teas, but it all seems like flavoured water to me. Supposedly there's a tea for everyone, but I've still yet to find it after buying boxes and boxes of different flavours.

[Anonymous No.8198917]

>>8198910
Have you tried Chrysanthemum tea (with sugar)? It's babby-level tea, imo, because it's the only tea I can stand in numerous doses.

[Anonymous No.8198918]

>>8198910
Where are you buying your teas? That might be your problem, tea is like spice, it gets 'stale' after a while and loses flavor, so if the tea is just sitting around then it might be flavorless.

Also, what kind of flavors do you like?
>favorite cookie
>favorite fruit
>how do you like your coffee?

(sorry if I'm being weird this is kind of my thing)

[Anonymous No.8198920]

>>8198841
I see your point, anon. I have the same issue as you. That's why I made that question. I own mainly brand skirts with my 98cm chest and 70cm waist... If only my breasts were 8cm smaller, life would be easier. How do you bind?

I'm not sure if I feel that some replica bags are as bad as prints now that I think of it. I mean, a fucking heart shaped bag, how fucking original...

[Anonymous No.8198923]

>>8198887
As long as you're paying for it, why not? At a private event in someone's home just take some to be polite if other drinks aren't offered... But I think you already knew that.

[Anonymous No.8198932]

>>8198918
Ooh! You should match me with my tea, anon, pretty please? I've always been so curious about the magic of finding someone their perfect tea.
I like any cookie with chocolate.
I love pomegranates
And I hate coffee

[Anonymous No.8198934]

>>8198910
I find it's usually herbal teas that are either flavoured water or hot juice, so I just stick with breakfast teas and green tea.

[Anonymous No.8198935]

>>8198887
Coffee smells awesome. I've never been to a tea house, but don't they serve coffee in teacups as well? I always thought coffee was one of the lolita 'things' too. I don't think anyone would have a problem with it.

[Anonymous No.8198941]

>>8198918
Not them; I love tea, but I want to see what anon reccomends.
>favorite cookie
peanut butter or a nice vanilla sugar cookie with powdered sugar
>favorite fruit
papaya or pomegranate, but I also love mango
>coffee
starbucks sweet or anything but bitter. I usually put sugar in it.

[Anonymous No.8198943]

>>8198918
Not that anon, but ciuld you perhaps help me find a nice tea? I've yet to come across a hot tea that wasn't better than simply drinkable.

Favorite cookie is gingerbread or snickerdoodle.
Favorite fruit is strawberry.
Favorite coffee: I generally dislike coffee, but I was able to drink my fourth cup of coffee today with one creamer and two packets of sugar.

[Anonymous No.8199024]

>>8198841
Also on large chest topic... What configures a boobloaf?

I'm not American and I've never heard that term before outside of lolita. And you know, if you have a large chest any thing that covers your chest will make you look unititted. Pic related.

[Anonymous No.8199066]

>>8199024
I always thought boobloaf was the unititty look paired with the way a larger bust will eat up the bodice of a dress and make it ride up farther than what would look nice.

[Anonymous No.8199073]

>>8198841
Would also like to know how you bind, as I'm interested in binding for certain pieces as well. A binder that's too big so you aren't completely flat-chested?

[Anonymous No.8199085]

>>8198920
I usually just use a tight sports bra. My measurements are 4cm smaller than yours, though, so I'm not sure if a sports bra is your best option. Sorry I don't have any more useful advice.

[Anonymous No.8199111]

>>8199024
You see that little dent in the middle of your pic that tells you that she has two boobs? Boobloaf doesn't have that because it's squished from wearing something too small.

[Anonymous No.8199131]

>>8199111
Double points if it's in a strapless prom/wedding dress where they are tightly corsetted/squished in and there's pudge spilling out like the top of a muffin or some breads.

[Anonymous No.8199161]

>>8198910
Sounds like you've mostly had lighter teas? Tea can be light or strong. Most people don't like the stronger teas, hence why you don't come across them often.

Tea, like coffee, sometimes has a strength meter on the box. Look for something heavy. It'll take a few tries so try to get sampler boxes or the smallest quantity available if you can.

[Anonymous No.8199187]

Alright lets give these a go. I'm just going to list the basic teas, but please try some more fun flavored teas based on these base teas(like mango oolong etc)
>>8198932
Oolong or pu-erh, or other chinese black teas try a spiced pu-erh or infused oolong. Better stay away from things like lapsang-souchong or jasmine.
>>8198941
Keemun, ceylon or chinese green teas and something like genmaicha, english breakfast or ceylon hibiscus for a more fun variety. I'd say stay away from lapsang-souchong or jasmine as well as some chinese black teas.
>>8198943
Chai, oolong or jasmine(with green tea), especially a nice spiced chai, try earl grey and spiced oolongs.
I'd steer away from white teas, and japanese green teas though.

[Anonymous No.8199189]

>>8198851
Have you tried contacting SAL? I believe they have an international contact? I'm not sure though.

[Anonymous No.8199283]

>>8197360
i have no fucking clue what ita meands beyond like bad lolita? but i also don't really understand what seperates ita and lolita costumes. they all look roughly the same, except it seems to be lolitas shittign on poor people who are trying lolita for the first time? like forgive me if i'm wrong but that's all i really see in those ita threads. people who don't look perfect because hey didn't spend 600$ on their dresses and they're getting made fun of by the same board that says we should stop making bad cosplay threads because it discourages people from even trying cosplay.

[Anonymous No.8199289]

>>8199283
Welcome to a world without participation trophies. Learn to take criticism and turn it into encouragement to grow. Also since you said "Lolita Costume" you have a lot to learn. Go here to learn more.

ttp://thelolitaguidebook.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.8199326]

>>8199289
its... costumes though? like lolitas take it so seriously they start regular attack threads every single day on other lolitas. it all seems so childish and pathetic to me tbh.
also yeah. it's a costume. and for the girls who really do dress like that every single day, they need to calm down and stop demanding so much attention.

also those ita threads aren't "offering encouragement". they're taking first time lolitas and shitting on them to make themselves feel better.

[Anonymous No.8199334]

>>8199326
Why are you so concerned? Not really your business to look on and critique others, you know. If you arent in the fashion, why are you even commenting?

[Anonymous No.8199343]

>>8199326
cant tell if bait or actually learned about lolita 1 hour ago

[Anonymous No.8199356]

>>8199326
Please just read the guide.

[Anonymous No.8199367]

>>8199334
>not really your business to look on and critique others
except that's literally what lolitas do, except it's less critiquing and more just general making fun of. i mean every ita thread i've ever seen has never offered anything close to a critique. it's just "let's make fun of these people because they're fat or their hair isn't perfect or some other incredibly mundane reason"

>>8199343
i actually learned about it 6 years ago. thought it was cute and considered getting into it, but then i realized if you're not rich and you're not perfect every single time, the lolita community loses their shit. which is kind of sad considering it's a bunch of adults dressing like 5 year olds.

[Anonymous No.8199375]

>>8199367
.5/10 for my resp

[Anonymous No.8199376]

>>8199375
well i mean i wanted a discussion and i got what i wanted so i guess i kind of win
although i do feel bad that i kind of derailed the thread here.

[Anonymous No.8199381]

>>8199326

[Anonymous No.8199382]

>>8199376
>so i guess i kind of win

When you have this kind of mindset about discussions it doesn't feel worth having them with you.

[Anonymous No.8199388]

>>8199376
bro, you lost before you even pressed enter.

[Anonymous No.8199394]

>>8198814
Educate yourself about textiles and it will all make sense. Far too much to type

>>8198918
Oooooh me too
White Chocolate and Macadamia or Mint Oreos
Green Apple or Blackberries
Triple Triple since I hate coffee

[Anonymous No.8199399]

>>8198717
Otome can be described as quirky, whimsical and twee. It's a very 60s based look and silhouette. The items are much simpler than lolita - they aren't frilly or ruffly or princessy, they're very simple in terms of their construction, and focus more on prints, textures and patterns.

Lolita has a different silhouette and construction, even when casual.

[Anonymous No.8199407]

>>8199283
There are also tons of people posted in the ita threads that have been wearing the fashion for years, some wearing expensive brand. Lots of new people get posted because they dressed like shit and should have been ashamed to leave their house like that. Anyone can see when an outfit is terrible.

The ita threads are an educational experience because people will often point out what they don't like or defend things they like. In general it's just good guidance for what to avoid. There are plenty of new people that start out ok as well, and don't get posted there.

You don't need to be ashamed forever if you end up there, just work on the things that need improving.

There's a very large variety of lolita styles out there. To say they all look childish or like a costume just shows how little you know. There are plenty of people that wear fairly toned down outfits and plenty that go over-the-top. You seem to have a really unhealthy attitude about people wanting to enjoy how they dress and having fun with their clothes. Lots of people take pride in how they dress, sometimes attention comes with that. Why do you care?

I hope this doesn't detail the thread too much. There was some good stuff in here.

[Anonymous No.8199419]

>>8199381
i hadn't seen this one yet, thank you so much

[Anonymous No.8199423]

Can a person get better at making coords or am I stuck being shitty with bad taste in fashion forever?
Not talking about lolita, just general jfashion.
Also I have no idea how to organise an outfit aside from trial and error which takes a long time.

[Anonymous No.8199428]

>>8199283
Translation:
I have no clue and I'm not really looking for answers but I feel the need to come in and shit up the thread because I looked into lolita one time and realized I was too poor/fat/whatever to into it so jimmies still rustled...

Slow weekend, Anon? No date again? No con? No...life?

[Anonymous No.8199434]

>>8199423
Of course. There is a ton to look at online, so many types of alt. Fashion, so many trends, monthly magazines, etc. Try looking at some coord-making sites like Polyvore and look at Tokyo street snaps. Magazine scans like Kera and Larme, I think Ageha is coming back too.

[Anonymous No.8199440]

>>8199428
Probably a troll. I've only gravitated towards lolita threads recently and am baffled by the number of troll posts and threads they get all the time.

[Anonymous No.8199444]

>>8198333
This

[Anonymous No.8199445]

>>8199367
If someone puts their photo out tagged lolita, it's common knowledge it's open for critique. We judge others in the fashion, we judge ourselves. If something is posted in the Ita tag, it was usually tagged lolita. This is something newbs learn really fast. But if you aren't a lolita, why do you care?

[Anonymous No.8199557]

>>8197962
It's because Japan has different colour definitions. The Japanese word that is often translated as "blue" is actually more of a turquoise colour, so their "light blue" isn't like our baby blue at all. Same with navy blue, which they often call "purple blue". Shit's confusing.

[Anonymous No.8199563]

>>8198887
I doubt anyone would care. It's not like you're ordering vodka.

[Anonymous No.8199569]

>>8199407
A+ response, anon. Too bad they probably didn't even read it and just left this thread feeling like they "won" and lolitas are all angry salty unreasonable bitches.

[Anonymous No.8199607]

>>8199563
I would go to a lot more meets if I could have a teacup full of vodka. Or maybe whiskey, at least it's tea colored.

[Anonymous No.8199686]

>>8199607
I've had beer on a few meetups before. I regret nothing.

[Anonymous No.8200690]

>>8198194
Some people don't want to wear sweat stained dresses. Shockingly enough

[Anonymous No.8200956]

How does a lucky pack work? Is it a random mystery bag where you don't know what's in there at all?

[Anonymous No.8200983]

>>8200956
It either is going to be dead stock from a brand, or they make sometimes lucky pack exclusive items for it. But yes it is a mystery bag of sorts. Some brands show vaguely what you will get and you can choose the size of the dress or the shoes or there is a color option, but you dont know the exact content of the pack. Its great if you are looking for fillers and if you arent picky about colorways.

[Anonymous No.8201115]

>>8199073
Sports bra, chest minimizer or an actual binder, probably from lesloveboat since you dont want it completely flat and their's doesn't have a whole lot of chest compression

[Anonymous No.8201141]

>>8198918
Anon, please help me too!
>favorite cookie
butter cookies/butter biscuits
>favorite fruit
watermelon and pineapple
>how do you like your coffee?
no coffee ever

[Anonymous No.8201142]

How do I hide stitching in places where two ends of fabric meet? I pulled a pic of someone's insta to try to show what I mean.
>sorry for being dumb

[Anonymous No.8201144]

>>8201115
This is for cosplay rather than lolita, but any suggestions for a binder that does leave you completely flat? My bust measurement is around 90 cm

[Anonymous No.8201155]

>>8199423
You can def improve. Look at coords you like or coords posted in good coord threads and ask, "What do I like about this?" "What do people like about this?" Is it the color balancing, theme, etc? Look at ita and bad coord threads and ask what is bad about this?

[Anonymous No.8201159]

>>8201142
Do you mean the edge of the collar? If so, good machine tension and ironing. Takes some practice to find the golden combo

[Anonymous No.8201165]

>>8201159
Yeah, just realized I didn't specify sorry.
So is it just the old sewing-inside-out-and-flipping but with ironing into shape? How do I close it once I flip it inside out since it's solid?

[Anonymous No.8201171]

>>8201144
underworks, gc2b, and some of lesloveboat's do bind well (ex: http://a-goblin-or-a-goddess.tumblr.com/post/18013221663/so-i-got-my-new-binder))

I would say look at reviews for the binder you are looking at and look for larger chested people's reviews. Do not order a size smaller than you need, though because it becomes dangerous to your health.

[Anonymous No.8201182]

>>8198094
>cosplaying amon

loins ready

[Anonymous No.8201204]

>>8201165
Look up tutorials for pressing seams. This is ironing the seam on the inside and again on the outside. Usually when sewing these kind of shapes, you leave yourself a little "escape hatch" that you top sew or slip stitch closed later. For example on sailor collars, I will sew all the way around it except for the nape of the neck so I can flip it.

[Anonymous No.8201218]

>>8201204
Thanks anon, I definitely will do so, hope you have a good day/night!

[Anonymous No.8201238]

Why do people do "Secret cosplays"?

[Anonymous No.8201240]

>>8201238
To get more attention/notes/ect when they finally do the ~*~*reveal*~*~

[Anonymous No.8201245]

>>8201238
Not sure exactly, but personaly, if I was a famous cosplayer and people cared about my posts I'd do them so I could get some more interesting discussions going in the comments that "Looks great!" "OMG SO KAWAII!" and "Kill yourself."

[Anonymous No.8201700]

This is an extremely gross question so I apologize in advance...

What do you lolitas do when you're on your period? Tampons have never agreed with me so I always wear pads. However, sometimes I get my monthly gift right before a meet up and I'm always terrified of getting blood on my white bloomers...
There have even been times I skipped a meet for this reason

[Anonymous No.8201719]

>>8201700
I've used pads, tampons, and menstrual cups (like the Diva cup) before, and I prefer pads and the cup. It took me a couple of periods to learn how to insert a menstrual cup properly so there wouldn't be any leakage, but I wore a pad as a backup while I was learning. Now I feel comfortable wearing one alone even on the first day of my period, and I've only had one or two instances of spotting beyond my initial learning period.

Some months I can't be bothered with the cup because I'm a lazy fuck, so I still use pads from time to time. Cups are pretty great in my experience though.

[Anonymous No.8201721]

>>8201700
You can always try the cup, anon? They can be messy to remove, but if you time things properly you should be able to go mess free while in your frills. Personally I'm a tampon+pantie liner kinda gal. Pads just leave too much room for worry and potential accidents.

[Anonymous No.8201722]

>>8197366
It's rainy, muddy, and snowy where I live for 9 months out of the year. I can't really afford to be spending money on shoes that are just going to get ruined by walking outside in them. And yes, I'm extremely careful with where I walk and all that.

[Anonymous No.8201728]

>>8201719
>I can't be bothered with the cup because I'm a lazy fuck

This is me like all the time now. I used to be so enthusiastic about it but now I just use cloth pads because they're so much easier... grant it, I have a pretty light flow, and most of it flows out in clots over the toilet, so the pads are easy as hell to wash.....

[Anonymous No.8201731]

>>8201700
I wear pads and my only suggestion if you're worried about leakage is maybe get a pair of black bloomers for when you're on your period? They won't show stains if anything happens. TBH though I've never had a problem in lolita since there are so many layers to get through before anything stains your actual dress.

Also, sit ON your petti instead of fluffing it out and to the side if you're worried about anything. Just gives you more layers between your period and your actual dress.

But really, unless you often have trouble with leakage [in which case maybe look into the cup, like other anons mentioned] you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.8201737]

Can someone give me a quick 101 on the efamous lolitas? I'm not in a comm and kinda meh about keeping up with bloggers. Who are the names I should know and please point me to where I may acquaint myself with their faces so I can keep up with lolita gossip on cgl (ie: do they have a tumblr or whatever)

[Anonymous No.8202055]

>>8199187
Thank you for the recommendation. My sister drinks a type of chai tea--I'll ask her for a cup next time I visit.

>>8201700
I use a menstrual cup. There was a learning curve, but it's seriously improved my quality of life.

[Anonymous No.8202154]

>>8198194
Because some people, believe it or not, actually prefer Bodyline over the major brands?

[Anonymous No.8202189]

Is it weird not to have a dream dress list? And is it weird to have a tendency to want more dresses from Taobao lines than the major lolita brands?

Yeah, there are dresses that I find pretty from time to time, but rarely do I see a dress and immediately yell "I NEED IT NOW". (Except with sailor lolita dresses, I'm still trying to acquire one) Everything else, I tend to look at a dress, say "meh", and move on. There are still dresses and skirts that I would like to have in my wardrobe, but I'm not hyperventilating and drooling over it.

[Anonymous No.8202403]

>>8198396
I'd love to know if this is true. I've never heard from anybody gonig to a brands tea party in replica shoes and if anybody noticed it.

[Anonymous No.8202408]

>>8202189
I don't have a dream list either. There's a couple items I like and would immediately buy though just because they might never turn up again on secondary markets. But I don't dream about them like the name suggests.

[Anonymous No.8202417]

>>8201737
Don't be lazy, look them up. No spoon feeding. If you can't be arsed to reach your hand out for easily searchable info, why would you expect anyone to take the trouble educate you?

[Anonymous No.8202458]

>>8202189
I don't have a dream dress list, just an oh-that-is-cute-I'd-definitely-buy-that-if-it-popped-up-for-a-reasonable-price list. It's actually not very long.

[Anonymous No.8202476]

What would you call of style of lolita? Is it otome? (Or is otome something completely different?? I'm not very well-versed when it comes to JFash. I've only recently taken an interest in it. Please do forgive my ignorance in advance.)

[Anonymous No.8202478]

>>8202476
And this, as well. Otome? Or some substyle of lolita?

[Anonymous No.8202482]

How do you guys feel about wearing creepers with gothic? I don't have the heart to sell my TUK mondos.

[Anonymous No.8202484]

>>8198084
>Designs are generic in shoes
This simply is not true. Honestly if you can't grasp that then there's no way anyone can make you understand why it's wrong.
Somebody stealing a design you made is still considered art theft, they just wouldn't necessarily be stealing a print.

[Anonymous No.8202498]

>>8202482
Are thry black/black? Those I think you could still use. Any of the 2 tone though, iffy.

[Anonymous No.8202502]

>>8202484
The Bodyline ones with the ruffle on the front and bows aren't replicas of an existing design are they? Just similar. And they come in larger sizes. Why not wear those if on a budget or have bigger feet?

[Anonymous No.8202521]

>>8202502
Okay, but my original post that anon quoted was talking about tea parties, not generic Bodyline shoes.
Tea parties are a specific design made by AP. If they're a specific design made by a brand then yes, they are knock offs.

[Anonymous No.8202531]

>>8202476
>>8202478
Pretty sure those are both classic, but I've only been into lolita for a few months so I could be wrong.

[Anonymous No.8202556]

>>8202521
Sorry, I should have been more specific. There are the Bodyline ruffle ones and thry are not replicas right? And I'm sure there are a few others that are not replicas that are cheap and do come in larger sizes so there ARE at least a few alternatives to replica tea parties that are still lolita shoes and that still fit the aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.8202561]

>>8202476
>>8202478
These are not otome. They would be a closer example of classic lolita.

Image attached is an example of otome.

[Anonymous No.8202591]

This is dumb, but since people are talking about tea parties anyway: what makes a shoe a tea party? Is it some characteristic of the shoe (like bow on top + cross straps + low heel) or just a specific shoe made by a specific brand? If it's the latter, I'm struggling to understand why it has a special name. It seems like there are a bunch of brand and non-brand shoes that have similar characteristics.

[Anonymous No.8202612]

>>8202531
>>8202561
Ah, okay! Thanks to you both.

[Anonymous No.8202619]

>>8202591
It is a specific shoe. Ap designed it, and they release ones every year. I think other brands may have done them by now and there are replicas easily found of them.

[Anonymous No.8204038]

How can I tell what kind of blouse/collar will look good with a jsk? I never imagined this would stress me out as much as it is. Does it even matter if I'm wearing a thick wig that's gonna cover a good bit of the jsk anyway lol?

[Anonymous No.8204084]

>>8204038
Instead of focusing on what kind of blouse with what jsk (which I think any combo would look good anyway), focus on which collar would look good on you. For example, high collars are suited for me since I have a dumb giraffe neck.

[Anonymous No.8204086]

>>8204038
Yes it matters, wigs arent really thick and you will be able to tell irl for sure and probably in photos depending on what you do. It isnt like a wig can cover up your whole torso area.

I usually look for examples to go off of, either with other's use of the jsk itself or other styles with the same neckline. Most are okay, like generic pan collars are everywhere, issues generally are when either the jsk or the blouse are unusual.

[Anonymous No.8204258]

>>8204084
This. I have a square jaw so i's better for me to have boatneck/portrait necklines. High collars make my face look even more stout.

[Anonymous No.8204965]

Is it possible for lolita newbies to have good or average coords on theor first tries? Or do most newbs look ita?

[Anonymous No.8204977]

>>8197487
It's logical...but my brain doesn't work that way.

I think if I'm buying brand shoes, I won't want to wear them often so I buy replica shoes for daily use. So I drop a lot of money for something I won't wear often.

[Anonymous No.8204982]

>>8204965
Yes, if you have good taste and about $150-$200
buy 2nd hand, make your first a nice looking brand piece that may not be too popular but it's something you like.
You'll want at least $100 for your main piece(I recommend a jsk, a op if you can find one you like for that price. Usually you can if it's IW)
$30 for a blouse, but if you live in a nice area you can probably find a nice vintage blouse for really cheap, go for the "chiffon" esque ones.
$25 for shoes, BL has a sale now

For accessories I just used cheap berets and decorated them nicely, plain tights, and ebay jewlery. which was about $10 total

Contrary to popular suggestion, there is a petticoat on ebay you can buy for about $12 that's got a nice amount of poof that'll last around 2 years.

[Anonymous No.8205152]

>>8204965

If it's just about your outfit, it's pretty easy:

- AP, BTSSB/AatP and Meta do some big releases where along with usual, they also do matching blouses, jewellery, sometimes even themed bags. Put together your outfit entirely from a single series, get lolita shoes and underthings, and you're done. Taobao brands are Chess Story and R Series. It might be cookie cutter, but it's easy and not ita. Just be careful of Meta, they're a bit wacky.

- Same thing, aim for the year-end lucky packs that have a fully matched coord in them. AP, BTSSB/AatP and Meta do them. These are lower quality, but it still looks pretty polished.

- Meta's website has sample coordinates that you can look at, they list down all the items they used in the coord. So if it's all in stock, you could just buy the whole coord off Meta's site.

- If you have the dress, the matching headwear and matching socks from a series, you're already halfway there. A basic lolita blouse, basic lolita shoes, and a bag in any colour that's largely present in any of the items, and you're done.

- If you get really lost, you can always post a collage to the coord help thread and request help/feedback.

Do any of these, you're bound to have a non ita first coord.

Most newbies tend to be itas because they skimp on their first outfit, eg knockoffs or replicas, or they skimp by skipping the petticoat, or they think office blouses can substitute for lolita blouses (they can, but most newbies don't have the eye for it yet). Or worse yet, they come in through anime and are copying some anime outfit that is barely lolita in the first place.

Now, with regards to your personal appearances -- that is a different thing. The skincare, wig and hair threads (you can start one if you can't find the old one) might be able to help you troubleshoot some problems, but in general it's up to you whether you can make yourself look like a pretty girl or not. Also, make sure you buy clothes that fit.

[Anonymous No.8205262]

Is plus size brand a thing? Not that I'm too interested in delving into lolita until I lose more weight, but I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.8205311]

>>8202476
This is pretty sweet, shes wearing a full AP set and tea parties. Though the rosettes and such are more of a classic theme.
>>8202478
This is more classic.

[Anonymous No.8205367]

>>8205262
It completely depends on your measurements. Plus size is a very broad term. I'm 172 cm tall with a 98cm bust and 83cm waist and i fit into some brand pieces fine. Lolibrary archives Lolita pieces and their sizes but there are gaps in what they list. Know your measurements in cm.

[Anonymous No.8205491]

What would it be called to make that green loop at the bottom/ on the sleeves? Adding a trim? I am trying to look up tutorials.

[Anonymous No.8205508]

>>8205491
A cuff?

[Anonymous No.8205591]

>>8205491
yep a cuff. You pretty much can make it by sewing the ends of a tube together. You cut a rectangle in which W=sleeve circumference+2seam allowance and H= 2desired cuff height+ 2seam allowance

[Anonymous No.8205715]

>>8202417
"look them up"
but they....they don't know who they are.. so how can they look them up..?

[Anonymous No.8206208]

>>8205591
>>8205508
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.8206584]

>>8204982
Link to petticoat?

[Anonymous No.8206587]

>>8206584
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/50s-Swing-Vintage-Petticoat-27-Retro-Underskirt-Rockabilly-Tutu-Fancy-Skirt-lxl-/221667512870?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&var=&hash=item339c69d226

[Anonymous No.8206595]

>>8205715
Well, how do YOU figure out who is 'popular in lolita so you can follow them?' It's a silly question to ask for a list like that because most of us just follow who we like, admire or identify with and don't keep lists of e-famous Lolitas.
Anon should just go google some lolita tags in different social media platforms and see who pops up with the most hits. And it will be different next week. Or she can start a thread asking who people currently like and why. But to just ask for a checklist is dumb. 'Who are the popular girls so I can follow them?' Sounds like middle school.

[Anonymous No.8206611]

>>8205262
Most lolita brands do not offer a plus line per say, no. Maxicimam (MaM) is the only exception I know of that does and not many people wear it anymore. They have I think it's called lovely size ? It's bern forever since I've even seen a MaM piece featured anywhere. In general J-fashion though Plumprino was introduced last year, I think? Ask in the plus threads, you may fit into more sooner than you think due to stretch/shirring in lolita though. But as other Anon said, know your measurements. Be at least 2-3cm UNDER the max measurements for a garment because the max sizes listed are usually for the item, not the body size it fits.

[Anonymous No.8206713]

I don't really know where to ask this, so I guess here is as good a place as any.

Would opaque white tights work with these shoes?

[Anonymous No.8206716]

>>8206713
not in lolita

[Anonymous No.8206718]

What makes jfashion jfashion? It's clear if it's something like lolita or fairy-kei that have set of rules but I've seen outfits that don't fall into any discernible category that fit the word jfashion and then I've seen people wearing something super simple like a black skirt with a white shirt and tagging it jfashion and it just doesn't seem like that's the right label for it?
I want to start posting outfits but I don't want to tag them incorrectly.

[Anonymous No.8206723]

>>8206716
But would it work in a general sense? I was going to pair them with this.

[Anonymous No.8206746]

>>8206723
/fa/ would probably be a more appropriate board. It could work, but I think white anklets or OTKs would fit the spring feel of the outfit better.

[Anonymous No.8206749]

>>8206723
yea probably.

[Anonymous No.8206751]

>>8206746
-and I have a personal peeve against wearing socks/tights with open-toed shoes.

[Anonymous No.8206758]

>>8206746
>recommending /fa/ for womens fashion
>recommending /fa/ for anything that isn't palewave now
>>8206723
I would wear ankle socks instead, and pink shoes. They look a bit too cream for the dress.

[Anonymous No.8206807]

>>8204084
>>8204086
>>8204258
Thanks anons! I have a round face and a shorter neck, I think I'd just look chubbier with high-neck styles, so maybe I'll avoid those for now, the advice helps a lot! I'll try not to stress so much about what style would go with the jsk and instead focus on what's flattering.

[Anonymous No.8206942]

>>8202476
This is classic lolita but the use of a navy blue and wine red color scheme, the bold graphic prints and the beret are all things very commonly found within otome. I would say this is otome inspired lolita.

[Anonymous No.8207039]

I keep seeing it in sales posts and lm, but wtf is "KC"?

[Anonymous No.8207077]

>>8207039

It's short for kachuusha (カチューシャ), which is Japanese for headband, sorta.

Here:
http://egl.livejournal.com/15352772.html?nojs=1&thread=333099716

[Anonymous No.8207082]

>>8207039
KC is an abbreviation of kachusha, which is just what the Japanese call headbows/headbands. It comes from the Russian name Katyusha (a diminutive of Kathrine), which was the name of a character in a very popular movie adaptation of a Tolstoy novel back in the early 1900s which popularized headbands.

[Anonymous No.8207220]

>>8206942
Yeah, no. Just because it's not pastel doesn't mean it's not sweet which it blatantly is.

[Anonymous No.8207225]

>>8197360
I was going to go for a Lolita and Mori hybrid, but I dont know if I should wear brown square heals or boots?

[Anonymous No.8207227]

>>8207220
The children's toys in the background are a dead giveaway!
I agree it's mostly sweet but it's not that clear cut. The color theme and royal motif is more commonly associated with classic hence the confusion.

[Anonymous No.8207229]

>>8207225
boots, keep it more mori than lolita

[Anonymous No.8207233]

>>8207220
Natural hair in a natural color, no pastels, no overly sweet accessories, very toned down frills/lace, no cupcake petti, no sweet motifs. I say classic as well. I think the wearer might have been messing with classic before going Otome.
I'd be interested to hear why you see it as sweet though besides it being AP, and I'm not being contrary, I do want to know. I guess I could actually go look it up on her blog tags.

[Anonymous No.8207245]

>>8207225
lace up granny style boots with small heel

[Anonymous No.8210420]

Why so against the pairing of black and navy, especially if it's obviously meant to be blue x black, not 'I got dressed in the dark and couldn't tell the two apart' ?

[Anonymous No.8210444]

>>8207233
Not that anon, but the cut of the garmet and saturated colors makes the coord read as more sweet than classic. Sweet isn't necessary OTT bright pastels and childish themes, although that is the trend nowadays.

[Anonymous No.8210469]

>>8197366
I'd have to wear them daily and brand quality isn't good enough to justify $130 on them. I buy replicas because I can just throw them in the trash after a year or so and buy new ones.
Also, I've perfectly sized feet (L) but freakishly wide toes. If I ever get brand shoes I want to be able to fit them first and save them for meetups.

[Anonymous No.8210492]

>>8199376
>LOL GUISE LOOK I WON A DISCUSSION NOBODY WAS HAVING WITH ME

[Anonymous No.8211052]

>>8207077
Ah I see! Thank you, anon. I wouldn't have figured that out on my own.

[Anonymous No.8213469]

>>8207077
so I've been trying to find the etymology behind that word for a while. In Spanish "cachucha" means cap. I can imagine its similar in Portuguese. Is "katyusha/kachuusha" a Portuguese loan word like "pan" or "rozario"?

[Anonymous No.8213479]

>>8213469
>http://egl.livejournal.com/15352772.html?nojs=1&thread=333099716
ah I just clicked on your link...I was just so sure...I felt my theory was a bit more relevant.

[Anonymous No.8213480]

>>8213469
>http://egl.livejournal.com/15352772.html?nojs=1&thread=333099716

It's already spelled out for you.

[Anonymous No.8213486]

>>8210420

So go do it. Every single lolita rule can be broken if you can make it look good.

9 times out of 10 it does look confused, though, which is why it's a rule in the first place.

[Anonymous No.8214037]

>>8205491
What kind of fabric would you use for the belt of this costume?