fat lolita

[Anonymous No.8058744]

just why

it looks terrible

[Anonymous No.8058746]

>>8058744
I understand /cgl/ hates fatties, but sometimes they actually pull off nice coords when they dress appropriately for their size. Sometimes.

[Anonymous No.8058749]

proof

[Anonymous No.8058752]

>>8058746
please show me

[Anonymous No.8058753]

She looks fine. Stop being a dick.

[Anonymous No.8058755]

>>8058753
>implying fat is ever okay looking

[Anonymous No.8058768]

Just a side note: 90% of the time there's fat lolita thread, good or bad, this chick is always the OP pic. Get it together /cgl/

[Anonymous No.8058770]

Well, fat people tend to look terrible in whatever they wear. It's just part of being fat.

That aside, I'm not into lolita, so I can't accurately judge her coord. But from what little I know about the fashion, it looks like she did a decent job. I've definitely seen much thinner people in much worse outfits. So, there's that.

[Anonymous No.8058775]

>>8058744
You know what, her coord is well put together, she looks decent, so what if she's overweight? I didn't see a weight requirement written anywhere. She has a petticoat on, a nice wig, her socks match. She looks like she's having fun, posing with her dog. Her dress doesn't appear to be bursting at the seams, she doesn't have a boobloaf.
She looks great, and is having fun, although not a lot of lolitas think this way, but that's what lolita is all about. Having fun.

[Anonymous No.8058781]

>tumblr

[Anonymous No.8058782]

I think she dresses well but it's a bit far into fatness that her stomach acts as her petti. She is going to be sorry when she's older. Her joints will hate her & she probably already has serious back trouble. I can see both sides of the coin and I am not fat health concern trolling or whatever tumble phrase there is for it now. This coming from someone who lost 10 stone and kept it off over 5 years. There is acceptable/pass for normal fat and the 300+ lbers who have given up

[Anonymous No.8058786]

>>8058775
That's her fupa, not a petticoat

[Anonymous No.8058801]

>>8058775
>looks great
Are you blind?
There is nothing cute about a person, any person who has made poor life choices and demands attention for it.
Go back to the circle jerk you call a home you tumblr fagot.

[Anonymous No.8058803]

>>8058752
I really like this girl's coords. She's not totally obese but still larger and I think she dresses herself nicely.

[Anonymous No.8058808]

>>8058770
The only reason it doesn't look like shit to you is because her miles of fabric and fat is all super washed out and photo shopped.

[Anonymous No.8058812]

>>8058801
Not all overweight people are overweight due to poor life choices, people have medical conditions. Stopping smoking can cause people to gain weight, some people gain weight easier than others, perhaps as a child, her parents didn't feed her the healthiest food, and that's not her fault.

Not all overweight people are like that because of their own choices, shit happens. And there's always going to be larger girls in lolita, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.

I honestly think she's cuter than a lot of the lolitas I've seen lately.

[Anonymous No.8058816]

>>8058803
I like this, can we please talk about this more.
At least we wouldn't be talking about lard lords and obesity.
Bigger can look good, obesity is never ok, not even as a fetish.

[Anonymous No.8058817]

>>8058803
She looks great!

[Anonymous No.8058820]

>>8058812
>muh genetics
Oh please. Your tears are a waste of good suffering.
>cuter than a lot of lolitas that I've seen
Really? Are you talking about in the ita threads? Thinner lolitas in your Comm that you hate?
Just saying things in general to support your weak logic doesn't make it true, and considering what you think looks good, I don't trust your opinion at all.

[Anonymous No.8058825]

>>8058820
If it's not genetics, it's not by their choice. Some people cannot afford to make a change, it takes a lot of hard work, exercise, and a complete change in lifestyle.

I've seen some fucking ugly lolitas lately everywhere, instagram, cgl, facebook. Her make up is applied nicely.

Why should someone's appearance ruffle your petticoat so much? Her clothes fit. Do you get really upset if you see an overweight person in jeans when you're wearing them, even if they're wearing them just fine? No, there's no need to. But god forbid an overweight person wears lolita, it's a disgrace.

[Anonymous No.8058826]

[Anonymous No.8058828]

>>8058812
There's always excuses. I am not the best healthwise so I keep my weight down now and not aggravate my fucked back. As a slim person I have days when I am bedridden. I wish I could tell my old fat self what was in store as I could have somewhat avoided it.

[Anonymous No.8058829]

>>8058826
This is so painfully accurate

[Anonymous No.8058834]

the OP's pic is cute though???? I love her clothes in and out of Lolita.

I'm sorry that you feel that way about her, and about fat people in general. Not even joking, I really am sorry for you. I seriously hope you never gain weight in your future.

[Anonymous No.8058835]

>>8058744
I hate fatties but I love this chick. She always looks put together and adorable. Can't say that for most people, thin or ham planet.

[Anonymous No.8058838]

>>8058834
>fatty detected

[Anonymous No.8058839]

>>8058812
>Medical conditions
Only a handful of overweight people actually have a medical condition that results in being overweight. However, OP is obese, it's only caused by eating too much.
>Stopping smoking
How is smoking in the first place not a bad life decision? Although it's true people tend to lose weight after they quit smoking, I've never seen anyone gain more than 25lbs.
>Fat parents
This one I understand, at least until you are an adult. When you are an adult, you control your life. If you continue to be overweight, that is your own choice. Your mom doesn't put food on your plate anymore.

[Anonymous No.8058840]

>>8058828
I am well aware that not everyone can help it. Some may be perfectly happy being like that, they see themselves beautiful and fine. Just like how people who have eating disorders like being really thin.

I'm really thin, too thin for my first piece of brand that I have hanging in my closet. But if they can be happy in lolita, then so can anyone.

[Anonymous No.8058842]

>>8058744
actually any white person doing lolita looks like shit

[Anonymous No.8058848]

>>8058838
Believe it or not, I'm the only skinny one in my entire family. Not only that, but the medication I just went on made me loose weight and I can't put it back on. I'm underweight by 5 pounds and you can see my bones through my chest, it's disgusting. Skinny isn't always healthy.

I'm still sorry you feel that way.

[Anonymous No.8058849]

>>8058839
Everyone in my family has been overweight, my mom changed though for her children, she had no motivation until then. She lost over 130 lbs, and gained nearly half of it back through stress eating from a tough job, a nasty divorce, and a cross country move.

They need motivation, which a lot of overweight people lack.

[Anonymous No.8058851]

>>8058848
Same here, I'm 20 lbs underweight due to medications. All of my family is overweight, and I recently lost my grandma to health problems.

[Anonymous No.8058857]

>>8058825
>hard work
Yeah it is hard work, but you fucking do it because obesity is a very serious medical issue you need to address and stop ignoring for the sake of being lazy.
Excuses will only take you so far, the rest of the way, get off your high horse and walk.
Her makeup doesn't look like shit because you're yards away and the filtering is ridiculous.

I don't care about random fat people liking the same things I do, but it keeps getting brought up, like 'oh look at this half ton unicorn in lolita how kawaii, doesn't she look soo adorbs? Fat people can lolita too!'
The answer to that question is no, and it will always be no.
/cgl/ loves chubsters that dress well, many of us are chubsters, chubby is cute for certain people.
Being an unhealthy mouth breather begging for approval is never cute no matter what clothes you wear.
>>8058826
Maybe for trolling and self loathing purposes.

[Anonymous No.8058862]

>>8058744
>being so fat your gender is indistinguishable

[Anonymous No.8058864]

>>8058851
AYRT
I'm sorry for your loss.

At first I was underweight by 10 pounds but I managed to put more weight on after I adjusted to the meds, but now I seem to be stuck where I am. I'm just glad that I'm only 5 under now. I hope you can improve your health.

[Anonymous No.8058865]

>>8058857
I agree, chubby can be cute.

But not all people who are severely overweight want help, or want to change. But everyone can do it, whether they think they can do it or not, it's a possibility.

[Anonymous No.8058885]

>>8058865
I'm saying that the last thing on my list of things to do is namby up to some egoist's world view where her farts are roses and that's not a Cheerio molding in her folds.

If she can't lose weight because 'muh condition' then great, get out of my feeds and stop talking about yourself like you're special. If she can motivate herself and become a better person, awesome, good for her, that's the type of person that deserves some support and congratulation.

[Anonymous No.8058908]

>>8058864
I'm stuck, they've decreased my meds to try to fix the heart problem caused by it. I hope I gain weight, and I hope you reach your goal weight :)

[Anonymous No.8058914]

>>8058768
Or this one

[Anonymous No.8058922]

As a plus sized lolita with a bust of about 110cm and a waist of about 90cm. A big part of weather or not a plus sized lolita looks good in the style is what body type she is. If you have a definable waist line it doeant look bad at all.

Being bigger isnt always from being supper lazy and eating tons of fast food. I eat personally about one full meal a day with maybe a few small snacka throughout the day cause we are poor. The lack of callorie intake actually makes it harder to loose weight even if you exercise becuase it makes your motabalism slow down.

I eat healthy when i can but healthy food is expensive and max n cheese and ramen and cearial are much cheaper options as where they are very unhealthy. I do exersize at home and the faxt we sont have a car makes us walk a lot more than the average American. I dont go to a gym or anything since thwy coat money.

Its pretty hard to base a wight on one thing its a lot of genetics also. My brother who lives the exact same way i do is taller and built like a twig in comparison... Simply cause hes got mh dad motabalism and ive got my moms.

When i do actually mannage to loose jhe weight though it stays off and i never really gain more. I lost 2 pants sizes a few years back simply cause we where in even more of a financial bind and ate next to nothing.

If the coord is well put together and the clothes fit well i really dont see the problem. But everyone has personal tastes.

[Anonymous No.8058929]

>>8058914
Why do fat people always have such beat up shoes?

[Anonymous No.8058936]

>>8058929
We don't all have beat up shoes, trust me.

[Anonymous No.8058937]

>>8058929
They have a lot more weight to carry. C'mon, anon, I thought that was an obvious one.

[Anonymous No.8058940]

>>8058922
this is bait right

[Anonymous No.8058944]

>>8058922
Completely agree about weight. At 5'9" because of my build, my healthy weight is 180 according to my doctor (and really, smaller than that I look emaciated). According to a BMI chart though I'm still significantly overweight.

[Anonymous No.8058946]

>>8058929
In this case i dont think its even cause shes bigger so much as she walks on the outsides of her feet. I do the same. Its along the same lines as being pigion toed or something.
It kinda sucks cause it can cause the sides of your ahoes to get scrapped up and have em bent weird. Flats are always more noticeable with it cause you dont have to worry about keeping heels flat.

[Anonymous No.8058948]

>>8058944
Im about the same hight. Granted i am def plus sized and weight about 240ish?

Not that i dont wanna loose weight its just hard when you cant afford to eat right.

[Anonymous No.8058949]

>>8058834
plz return to tumblr

[Anonymous No.8058950]

>>8058948
Stop bitching and whining, eating healthy isn't any more expensive than eating garbage, it just takes a little more effort because you have to get off of your fat ass and actually cook the food you bought. You don't open a box and shovel it down.

[Anonymous No.8058954]

>>8058948
Water is free. Soda is not. Let that sink in.

[Anonymous No.8058956]

>>8058948
Honestly, you can eat right on any budget. I am in grad school, work full time, pay bills and my mortgage but I still manage to eat properly. It's all about portioning and making healthy choices. I also am working with a trainer to lose the weight I lost while in grad school (I'm in my final semester). The biggest impact on my weight loss though is my eating. I weighed 285 when I started and now I weight about 265 and it's only been a month. I just needed to buckle down on my habits and pay more attention.

It was very easy to just dismiss it while I was in school because I was stressed. Now that I'm almost done, it's game time.

This was me at 285 (not in lolita, just at the mall)

[Anonymous No.8058957]

>>8058922
Maybe you should quit lolita and buy better food?

[Anonymous No.8058961]

>>8058956
This WAS me at 200.

[Anonymous No.8058962]

>>8058949
plz kiss my backside

[Anonymous No.8058964]

>>8058826
Nice. Now we just need one for age

[Anonymous No.8058968]

>>8058956
d'oh, should have said 'put on in grad school' not lost.

[Anonymous No.8058972]

>>8058944
Your doctor was likely humoring you and implying that 180 is th highest safe weight you should maintain, they are tactful like that. I can't think of any female body type that wouldn't still be quite overweight at 5'9/180

[Anonymous No.8058973]

>>8058948
anon eating healthy is actually cheaper and better for you in the long run. quit making excuses and face the reality.

[Anonymous No.8058977]

>>8058950
Depending on where you live in the world, healthy foods ARE more expensive. Where I live, fresh foods and "healthy" foods cost more than what they do some other places. A friend from Cali came to visit and was shocked at how much more expensive fresh veggies were. Making better food choices isn't always more expensive, but sometimes it can be.

[Anonymous No.8058979]

>>8058972
You can take a look at my 200 picture and figure for yourself what I would look like more than 20lbs lighter. If you don't feel that is the case, then that's up to you. But I know what I look like at 180 and there wasn't much room to go smaller when my hips bones are showing and my body was toned due to track.

[Anonymous No.8058982]

>>8058948
Classic lie fatties tell themselves. Eating healthy and planning my meals actually reduced my food costs. I am currently 2 pounds away from reaching 90 pounds lost. If I can do it you can do it. Dont fool yourself anon. You deserve better. It might take some extra planning at first but after a month you have a couple days of meals you can rotate and it all becomes second nature.

[Anonymous No.8058986]

>>8058977
That doesn't mean that you still can't control your portions.

>>8058982
Second this!

[Anonymous No.8058989]

>>8058973
agreed, i hear this shit all the time but in reality it's cheaper to eat fruits and vegetables which are available for cents a pound in some places compared to boxed or packaged foods. unless you live in like iceland you're full of shit

[Anonymous No.8058999]

>>8058986
Yes, controlling your portions is a part of eating healthy, but there's more to it than that.

I wish they taught nutrition to kids in schools as mandatory learning.

[Anonymous No.8059000]

>>8058977
It depends on where you shop too. In my local town we have a number of chinese food stores, which I shop at for veggies, I always get this sweet flat cabbage for $0.39/lb when just 5 minutes down the road the same exact kind is $1.89/lb because it's ~asian~. It even comes from the same place. I only spend about $250 on food per month and eat mostly fish, rice and veggies, so shopping around does have it's perks.


I regards to the thread, I -do- think that there are indeed legitimate medical issues that cause people to be fat, but I also know that humans in general are more stationary/not doing as much labor, which causes people who would be slightly overweight to become obese much more quickly. Plus, the way that countries like the US specifically treats our fat people enables them to at as if they have a terminal illness before they even get to that point. I know from experience a lot of people with medical related issues to weight tend to just give up and let themselves go since 'it's too hard' not to. Even just 100 years ago, people like that would have been unable to gain access to enough shit food to gain the weight.

Anyway, I'm drunk and ranting. Woo!

[Anonymous No.8059002]

>>8058989
this is true. the flea market in my town has mexicans selling produce for ridiculous cheap. Whole miniature watermelons, the same you'd buy at grocery stores for 1/5 of the price.

[Anonymous No.8059004]

>>8058922
Like stated you can eat better on a lower budget. You can also lose weight eating shit and just watching calorie intake. I lost a large portion of my weight still eating fast food, microwave dinners and junk food almost daily while keeping calories and portions down. It's just what happened to be quick and accessible.

There are plenty of excellent workouts you can do at home too (try circuit training, you can do it with using everyday objects in your house). I've never stepped foot in a gym and I don't need to for the sole purpose of weight loss, but I probably will in the near future for fitness reasons.

I used to tell myself it was metabolism when I was up to 210lbs, 120cm bust, 95cm waist, but it wasn't. It was being entirely sedentary, binge eating, comfort eating, drinking fucktons of soda, having the idea planted in my head (because I grew up poor) to eat everything on your plate. Those are hard habits to break and I still struggle with them. I'm still what cgl would consider fat, but I'm nowhere near what I used to be (96cm bust, 82cm waist, 145lbs).

You probably can do it anon, but you have to want it. If you don't, it's all good and I'm not hating in any way. I'm just saying, because I've been there. Best of luck to you.

[Anonymous No.8059006]

>>8058989
It's particularly cheaper when the fruit/veg is in season and/or bought at a farmers market. I remember in the summer getting a 2 quarts of delicious ripe peaches for like 7,8 dollars. This is the time to buy delicious delicious Clementines, like 5 lbs for 5 bucks.

Seriously, I buy Clementines for myself and my roommates and it takes us a couple of weeks to go through the 5 pound box.

[Anonymous No.8059008]

>>8058982
For me too! I also spend a lot less on instant crap because I cook in large quantities and freeze it. Right now I have exams and have no time to cook so I just take out a few hours after I've had an exam to prepare meals for the next week(s). I eat a shit ton of eggs too. They're ready in 10 minutes and fill you up until noon. Plus if you boil one extra you always have a filling low cal snack! And eggs don't cost shit.

[Anonymous No.8059009]

>>8058999
Oh I know! But there are actually some urban areas where there are in fact 'food deserts'. In these places produce is significantly higher than most areas. In the event it is actually prohibitively expensive for anon, she can still make the best choices possible and control her portions.

[Anonymous No.8059014]

>>8059004
correction, 105cm waist is what I used to have at one point.

[Anonymous No.8059015]

>>8058950
Eating veggies and organic foods arpund here is actually a lot more expensive after buying enought to make a full meal for a family.

Buying and cooking spaghetti is a lot.cheaper then say buying and cooking a small salmon steak and a side salad to make.
The city i live in is also doing a case study that if yoi sign up for it you get vouchers for veg from the farmers market which i have had the last month which helps a good bit which has made a large improvement bit as its jnly been recent that we have gotten that not enough to help me loose a drastic amount of weight

[Anonymous No.8059018]

>>8058908
You could get a green card if you're in cali, or another de criminalized state. Give yourself the munchies and eat more for more weight gain. The same thing has helped some of my under weight friends get baby fat before.
Leafly, the site has info on a bunch of strains and you can search for them based on that characteristic.
>>8058922
Why are fat women full of the most pedantic excuses?
If you are that poor, get food stamps, I ate like a freakin king on food stamps, steak once in a while and everything.
>muh metabolism
You can do plenty to fix your metabolism, you just haven't tried.
>muh genetics
More like you want to believe that so you don't have to expend the effort.
Women gain weight more easily, it's what we do because we're supposed to have parasites eat us for 9 months out of the year before we shit them out to repeat the cycle.
It doesn't mean you couldn't plan your meals and take supplements or god forbid work out every once in a while at home.
>>8058944
BMI is shit, it's a guideline for progress.
I'm not talking about people who are tall and bigger to fit their frame just fyi. You don't need to keep lumping yourself in with people like the other anon just because the scale gives you a lower sense of self.
>>8058948
Excuses.
>>8058956
Good for you. I'm glad you're doing right by yourself, I hope you reach your goals.

[Anonymous No.8059019]

>>8058954
I dont drink much soda? Unless im at a party and its for a mixer?
I drink pleanty of water expecially if i eat out woth friends cause its free.

[Anonymous No.8059020]

aw shut up already. i love sweet fatty chans. they make you look better in photos :^)

[Anonymous No.8059023]

>>8059015
I have to agree with previous anon though, if you can't afford decent produce, how do you afford lolita? Mixed up priorities much?

[Anonymous No.8059025]

>>8058744
this is as stupid as when people complain about things they see on tv
instead of crying about the thing and trying to end it, how about just averting your eyes

[Anonymous No.8059026]

>>8059000
You're lucky to have stores like that where you live. We don't have many options here, but for the people who do, this is great advice. Forever in the land of expensive vegetables.

In the summer, we grow tomatoes. They seem to be the only thing we can grow in our soil, but we get a handful a day for almost three months for the cost of a few plants at the beginning of the year. If there's anything that you can grow on your own, not only is gardening good gentle exercise that gets you outside, but it can also help you eat healthier and possibly cheaper while you have a yield.

[Anonymous No.8059027]

>>8059015
More excuses.

[Anonymous No.8059028]

>>8058956
Congrats on your progress.
im only slightly smaller than you i would say depression in the past made it hard but lately ive been putting in more effort. Money wise personal a trainer is out of reach.
I do know some habbits i need to work on liek coffee is probably a big one for me bit the caffine at this point gets me through the day hah.

Eating right on a budget is possible but still hard when you live with family. I dont always get to pick what gets bought or made though i do try when possible.

[Anonymous No.8059031]

>>8059025
Does that solve problems, sticking your head in the sand?
If you want to avoid problems how about you gtfo?

[Anonymous No.8059034]

>>8059015
But 1/2c cooked spaghetti is 1 serving, you shouldn't be eating any more than that in any case. Especially if trying to lose any weight. Jeez, carbs much? Agree with 'quit Lolita, buy decent food first'.

[Anonymous No.8059035]

>>8059031
>getting this mad
you don't even care if the person is getting healthy or not, you just care that they're wearing clothes you like
don't try to act like you're solving any problems

[Anonymous No.8059040]

So here's the thing. (this is the 285 anon losing weight)

I don't think bigger girls look bad in Lolita, some of them actually do have pretty fabulous coords. What I DO have a problem with is people not trying to take care of themselves. Having been smaller, I can honestly say that I do NOT feel as good as I did when I was 80lbs lighter. On top of that, even though I pass all my standard medical tests with flying colors, that doesn't mean that I'm not actually putting a strain on my body due to my weight.

If you want to be larger, fine, that's your prerogative, but even plus size models work out and watch what they eat. And in many cases, those girls aren't even really that overweight for their builds.

I think the girl in OP's post actually looks pretty cute (let's face it, the coord is pretty nice), but doing that amount of damage to your body is NOT cute.

Even if she passes her medical tests like I do there are other physical changes that come with being obese (which I am, let's face it). I like to think I'm pretty cute even for my size and I try to dress well, but at the end of the day I would look (and feel) much better in taking better care of myself.

[Anonymous No.8059041]

>>8058957
I bought the littlw i own when we where better money wise for a while. But im also between jobs as the one i had was only a temp. A lot of it went to help out with food as well or to my parents. At the moment money is tighter and im also not buying lolita. I dont own enough that would be worth more than 1-2 grocery trips anyway if i where to sell.

[Anonymous No.8059045]

>>8059035
If my blunt way of telling people they can eat a dick or improve themselves turns one fatty into a believer, I have done my job anon.

[Anonymous No.8059046]

why do all fatty-chans love making excuses for themselves?

quit eating so much carbs and watch your calorie intake. is it that hard?
(hint: it's not)

[Anonymous No.8059047]

>>8059028
I picked up a bunch of weight due to money stress, an abusive relationship, and just general depression. It has only been recently that I could afford a personal trainer and even then I can only see her once a week.

I live alone so I haven't had to experience people buying my food for awhile. However, I would suggest maybe request some simple staples like chicken breast (even frozen works) that you could obtain relatively cheaply and use for multiple meals.

Good luck to you!

[Anonymous No.8059049]

>>8059041
I guess my foodstamps suggestion went over your head didn't it?
You're just so full of excuses for yourself, don't you ever wonder where reality ends and your fantasies begin?

[Anonymous No.8059050]

>>8059028
>Money wise personal a trainer is out of reach.

Im the anon from >>8058982 and I dont have a personal trainer. I just added a walk everyday and the pounds really started to come off. You would be amazing how some moderate walking can really help. It can be hard if you have a hectic schedule to fit in a walk but it might just mean making sacrifices like swapping your computer time for a walk.

>Eating right on a budget is possible but still hard when you live with family.

I had a similar problem. I just asked if I could take over making dinner and my family was more then happy to let me take over meal planning and shopping. Maybe you could ask yours?

[Anonymous No.8059057]

>>8059040
Same girl that you originally replied to. You do look cute for your size! I would love to try and eat healthy and such more and its not completely out of reach but it is harder. Im going to be moving this year and buying more of my own food and plan on trying to work more and change a lot this year. Its just that atm a lot of hhings are out of my reach atm with shorter income than usual and trying to save to move out this summer. Good luck on your personal goals. :)

[Anonymous No.8059064]

>>8059057
For ref heres a decent pic to show my body type outside of lolita.
I look better than i used.to before i lost some weight but i am still working on it.

[Anonymous No.8059082]

>>8058825
>cannot afford to make a change
jesus christ that a giant load of bullshit. you'd literally be eating less food, shoving your piehole less often. decrease in food = decrease in $ spent. and dont give me that "healthy food is expensive" bullshit, a bag of rice, chicken, and frozen veggies from the store will be cheaper than any of those goddamn big macs your stuffing down your guzzards

[Anonymous No.8059087]

>>8059082
I dont eat much usually one meal a day maybe 2

I dont eat fastfood often. Dont even make burgurs at home.

[Anonymous No.8059091]

>>8058834
>hope you never gain weight in your future
not OP, but i share OP sentiments. i was already fat my entire childhood and never a healthy weight until i was an adult with control over my own life. i never will gain weight again, and never have because I'm an adult now who can control what the fuck i shove down my piehole and i have no respect for those who can't(because frankly i did that for 18+years and know what it takes). fat people are disgusting and should be ashamed

[Anonymous No.8059099]

>>8059015
I got frozen vegetables and canned tuna when I was in college and managed to stay skinny but not malnourished. You don't have to get fancy salmon steaks and organic fresh vegetables or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.8059105]

>>8059087
Bitch lern to food
If you eat sparingly your body is in constant starvation mode and will retain everything you give it.
If you eat light meals with low carbs, periodically throughout the day your body will naturally unclench it's asshole and let the excess go.
You also probably eat too much salt and your body retains too much water in an attempt to save your gray matter.

[Anonymous No.8059118]

>>8059091
I gained weight on the up for years and hated myself, but never did anything for it.
Then I hit the 'oh shit' weight and made a promise that I have since kept, to never go over 165 again, and to respect myself.

The people that cry or make excuses when you call them out on their shit deserve all of the unhappiness, self loathing and medical problems that they have brought upon themselves.

I'm just glad I realized what kind of pit I was falling into before it really got bad.

This is the face I made when no one got the reference I made in an earlier post. Uncultured brigands.

[Anonymous No.8059124]

I don't understand people who say it's more expensive to eat healthy. Yeah, organic groceries aren't cheap, but healthy foods are. When I was living on my own I lost a bit of weight (not fat to begin with) because I lived almost exclusively on frozen veggies and tuna. Maybe I'm just boring, but it's not like I was cooking for an SO or anything, and I loved the stuff. Tuna's like .70 a can, I'd make tuna salad and have it for dinner. Frozen veggies and fruit are always on sale where I live and I don't believe this is too exclusive, the bags will last you a few servings and you don't have to worry about them going bad. Though I always had fresh bananas because I love them, but like everyone said, fresh fruit's really fucking cheap.
Yeah, buying shit like bulk ramen and mac and cheese is tempting, but avoiding pasta and still having plenty to eat was not hard. At all. I hate to sound bitchy, but the "eating healthy is too expensive!!" excuse is too hard for me to believe. I was living paycheck to paycheck and did not struggle to at least eat decently. You just have to stop thinking you need shit like ice cream and frozen waffles and chips. Excuses and wasted expenses.

[Anonymous No.8059131]

>>8059118
I got it and giggled.
This isn't for your eyes (or thighs)
>fatty w/a cheeseburger

[Anonymous No.8059132]

>>8059124
Black beans are super versatile and cheap as well. I had some black beans and rice the other day, then I took the leftover black beans and made black bean burgers. I could have made black bean stew, or meatless chili, or black bean salad, black bean curry...

[Anonymous No.8059138]

>>8059131
You can live, the rest I'm still debating on.

[Anonymous No.8059139]

>>8059124
>thinking canned tuna is healthy
No, and no way you should be eating tjna more than three times a week.
On average, fresh produce and healthy lean meats (especially seafood if you're flyover state) is more expensive. That's why poor people tend to be fat because garbage food is cheaper due to it being low quality, processed junk.
>frozen food all the time
That gets old real fast. It's easy to eat cheaply if you're okay with repetition and boring; beans, frozen vegetables, and rice.

[Anonymous No.8059144]

>>8059138
I'm in hell until The Scarlet Gospels come out in spring anyway, I'll keep you company.

[Anonymous No.8059150]

>>8059139
Repetition and making it 'boring' is actually a decent dieting tactic that takes the constant focus off 'what shall I eat' and lets people shift focus off food.

[Anonymous No.8059160]

>>8058744
Because I can be a fatty-chan and feel glorious in my burando all day long and you can't stop me?

[Anonymous No.8059167]

>>8059160
No one would dare try? You'd flatten us like steamroller.
Only brand OP could wear is several pieces sewn together, and even then, still gonna get those looks like 'wtf am I even looking at here?'
Why bother?

[Anonymous No.8059168]

>>8059139

I eat frozen food nearly all the time. You can do shit with it other than microwave it you know. There's a whole world out there if you learn how to turn on the stove. That's a shitty reason to not eat somewhat healthily (I know that frozen food is not ideal, but it's better than eating processed shit).

[Anonymous No.8059169]

>>8059139
>gets old real fast

Like I said, I was only making food for myself and I didn't give too many shits. I'm not particularly picky. And as >>8059150 mentioned, the repetition and routine made it easier for me to not focus on food. It goes the same for fatties who rely on ramen and mac every day. They don't think about what they're taking in because they already know, and it catches up to them.

[Anonymous No.8059171]

>>8059167
wow you sure pwned them XD

[Anonymous No.8059172]

>>8059139
Thank you ive been trying to say this the whole time.

Processed "healty" frozen cheap food is cheap but bot very healthy still.
But real fresh organic food.thats actually good for you is usually more pricy.

[Anonymous No.8059174]

>>8059169
know what they'll be having*
Routine can be really good, or really bad.

>>8059132
Beans too! Super good for you and large amounts are cheap. They go well in everything and there's lots to do with them.

[Anonymous No.8059176]

>>8059139
>tuna isn't healthy
Like you fucking know. Protein is healthy, mac and cheese is not.
Poor people are fat because they can't budget.
I've been below the poverty line for years yet I eat healthy as a rule.
Grocery stores sell meat for cheap if it's short dated, a pack of chicken at 69 cents a pound lasts me a week, a bag of granola lasts me a week if eaten between meals, an apple is less that 50 cents, bananas get short dated all the time, dollar stores have produce, there's no excuse for a lack of planning.
If you want to find out, the information for your local areas cheapest food stocks is there.

Happy hunting fatty, don't come back until you bring the village either your hamhocks or something else's.

[Anonymous No.8059178]

>>8059168
I eat frozen things when fresh isn't in season and this is so true. There are so many ways to eat healthy on the cheap if you are motivated. Do that, count calories, exercise, it makes a huge difference. Doubly so if you have a lot to lose, the weight starts to come off fast!

[Anonymous No.8059181]

>>8058755
asshole

[Anonymous No.8059182]

>>8058812
Yeah and you know why they gain the weight when they stop smoking? Because of stress/anxiety. They need to replace the habit somehow and food is the best option.
When you bombard your brain with sugary shit of course you're bound to keep on eating when you're quitting smoking.
Shit like this >>8058744 doesn't look good because she's not dressing in a way that compliments her figure.
That kind of skirts only make your hips look wider. The wig [or hairstyle idk], and the glasses make her face look fatter, and the colors are not doing her any justice because they make her look fatter than what she truly is.
But then you have >>8058914 which actually looks decent, and yeah, it's because she's not as fat as the picture in OP.

You can be happy all you want about your burando and your fashion choices, and I am not against fatties enjoying lolita, but that still doesn't exempt you from looking like shit.

[Anonymous No.8059184]

>>8059172
Fatty-chan, stop using bullshit excuses. Frozen fruit and vegetables aren't processed, they're just fucking frozen. You're eating cheese mac and ramen every day, you have no place to talk about how how frozen food isn't "healthy"

[Anonymous No.8059185]

I went from 145-150 to 120-125 after I gave up drinking soda. Still working on the teeth whitening. Shit's bad for you, man.

[Anonymous No.8059188]

>>8058940
No why would you think that?

[Anonymous No.8059190]

>>8059185
Word. Adjective. Pronoun.

[Anonymous No.8059194]

>>8059181
landwhale detected man the harpoons

[Anonymous No.8059196]

>>8059190
What the fuck are you trying to say here, are you trying to criticise their grammar?

[Anonymous No.8059208]

>>8059046
#notallfattychans

I've lost about 30 pounds in the last year but I'm still fat. It's an incredibly slow process for me due to several health issues (physical and mental) but I persist at my snail's pace. I count calories and work out cardio + strength training regularly, and I do restrict my carb and sugar intake. I'm losing about half a pound per week. It's really annoying that people assume I'm guzzling soda and sitting around making excuses, when I'm actually working hard. My progress is just slow. So kindly fuck off.

[Anonymous No.8059213]

>>8059196
No man. It's a fuck shit stack.
I was agreeing with them.

[Anonymous No.8059220]

>>8059208
Then it wasn't targeted to you, so calm your tits anon. Those heaving mounds of fat can take a break for one second if it'll help you understand the point.
Admit that your fat friends that don't want to change and won't help you work out/ eat better make excuses why it won't help them, they bitch and moan but they don't do anything about it. If not friends of yours, fat people in your life do this, especially women.

[Anonymous No.8059237]

>>8059196
Btw, google that. Fuck shit stack. You'll either love it or you'll hate it, either way you should get out more.

[Anonymous No.8059319]

>>8059220
Are you this much of a cunt all the time or just on cgl?

[Anonymous No.8059344]

>>8059319
I tell it how I see it anon. I'm all up in this thread and if you don't see eye to eye with what I've said so far, eat a dick.

[Anonymous No.8059361]

>>8059344
do you make it a point to tell people how much of a bad bitch you are for telling it like it is
like do you identify as someone who is just like, way too honest xo

[Anonymous No.8059367]

>>8059208
Don't worry, the slower you lose it, the slower you'll gain it back. I'm going at it real slow too, we're gonna make it brosis

>>8059046
>thinking it's all about the carbs
/fit/ would like a word with you

[Anonymous No.8059418]

>>8059208
For a while I was the most active/healthy person in my group of friends but you wouldn't know it if you saw me out with them because I was still losing weight and bigger then them. It sucks but it is something your going to have to deal with anon until more physical progress shows. Now when I go out with them it is definitely more obvious who is taking care of themselves. It feels good man.

[Anonymous No.8059446]

>>8059018
Really curious to know how you can change your metabolism anon, so I can tell my girlfriend and she can stop starving herself and feeling guilty about eating bread because she wants to get thinner.
>inb4 "she probably never exercises and only eats burgers hurrdurr
She exercises daily and eats small portions of healthy food and still can't lose weight.

[Anonymous No.8059454]

>>8059446
Tell her to keep a food diary.

[Anonymous No.8059461]

>>8059446
I thought I only ate small amounts of food until I got my fitness pal and detailed everything I actually ate. Sneaking a palm full of chips a couple times a day is like 600 calories. Also my idea of 1 serving was really about 2 servings.

[Anonymous No.8059463]

>>8059454
How does this help with metabolism? Not being sarcastic, just curious since I've never done it myself.

[Anonymous No.8059467]

>>8059461
Believe me, I have hardly seen her eating any junk food except for maybe once a month and her concept of 1 serving is about 1/3 of what I would eat.

[Anonymous No.8059469]

>>8059463
Tracking food makes you able to pin point possible problems for why she is not losing.

[Anonymous No.8059472]

>>8059463
The point is honestly keeping track of every calorie she consumes. It's against physics for her to consume less energy than she exerts and not lose weight.

[Anonymous No.8059487]

>>8059469
>>8059472
Thanks, I'll talk to her about it when I think the time is right as this is an extremely delicate topic for her.

[Anonymous No.8059492]

>>8059487
Just be careful anon. I'm sure she genuinely wants to lose weight but it's so easy for that to turn into an ED, especially once you start counting calories. A lot of peoples' goals are "lose weight fast" rather than "lose weight safely".

[Anonymous No.8059495]

>>8058744
>>8058744
It actually looks good considering how obese this lady is, she made a pretty good job at dressing her body.

[Anonymous No.8059505]

>>8058839
It's pretty hard for people who have overeaten and had an unhealthy lifestyle drilled into them since childhood to suddenly change. People with overweight parents were never taught displine (in regards to food), portion control, healthy eating, etc. It's like people who smoke or drink because their parents did...It gets in grained and it's really hard to change.

[Anonymous No.8059522]

>>8059492
I know, this is why I never mentiones counting calories to her as a viable option, as she had self-esteem problems connected with weight in high school and still does, to a certain extent. I know this is /cgl/ and all and everyone is considered fat and lazy by default here, it's just that sometimes it hits a little too close to home.

[Anonymous No.8059526]

My moto is if you can't zip up the dress without help or take the dress off without help you shouldn't be wearing it.

[Anonymous No.8059530]

>>8059505
No one intelligent says its easy, but it's definitely do-able. You can always improve.

[Anonymous No.8059532]

>>8059526
Omg, how funny! I wonder if anyone has ever actually gotten STUCK in a dress?

[Anonymous No.8059541]

>>8059505
I agree with both this and people telling fatties to just lose weight. While it's true that an adult decides for themselves what they eat and how much of it we are all the results of conditioning during our upbringing and if that hamplanet starts crying while eating broccoli and becomes happy from eating fries and cheese it is because of the way her parents influenced her brain development. It takes a lot of time and effort to fix your brain, to replace fat and sugar as ways to make you happy and to actually enjoy the taste of bitter or sour vegetables and lean meats and all the great spices or even just water instead of soda. Just eat less won't cut it for someone as fat as OP. She needs a bigger lifestyle change.

[Anonymous No.8059543]

>>8059532
I have at 120 pounds.

[Anonymous No.8059547]

>>8059543
Same here but it was just because my mother picked out the youth size and not the adult size of a normalfag dress.

[Anonymous No.8059553]

>>8059547
>>8059543
Same.

[Anonymous No.8059556]

>>8058801
> someone else posts her picture
> demanding attention

Wat

[Anonymous No.8059557]

>>8058885
> weight loss makes you a better person

Is this really how some people think?

[Anonymous No.8059559]

>>8059526
What about when the zip gets to a certain point and you can't reach properly it to keep pulling it up?

[Anonymous No.8059560]

>>8059543
>>8059553
Which dresses at that weight? How odd.

[Anonymous No.8059561]

>>8059559
Thread a skinny ribbon through the hole in the zipper pull. Also works for back zippers.

[Anonymous No.8059563]

>>8059559
I have a lot of friends complaining about that on some MM and VM dresses as well as old school dresses. Never had the problem before. If the dress is your size you should have enought layway to zip it up by yourself.

[Anonymous No.8059570]

>>8059541
>Muh poor tastebuds.
Jfc, they are adults not little babies crying for candy.
Healthier life > eating crap makes most people happier in the long run.
Just like most ex-smokers are really glad they quit.

[Anonymous No.8059571]

>>8059000
There are diverse medical problems that can make you fat, it's not just genetics.

My bff dad was huge because he couldn't exercise or move at all because of a severe heart deffect, but the rest of the family was really thin. He just couldn't shake off the calories with basic exercising.


That being said I don't condone being fat, I don't care much actually. I just look at the aesthetics and if a fat lolita is cute to me (I don't need to imagine her fat rolls beneath her clothes) then it is.

I'd rather see a well groomed, cute fat lolita than a regular fat woman in potato sack clothes. I don't really understand the hate behind fat lolitas because that person won't stop existing if she stop wearing the fashion, she will just look 10 times worse.

[Anonymous No.8059574]

>>8059561
>>8059563
I meant back zips. Sometimes they are hard to get past that bit in the middle of your shoulder blades. Some people can't touch there at all (shorter arms, less movable shoulders etc).

[Anonymous No.8059575]

>>8059571
Medical and genetic conditions are rare.
I think fat girls in lolita look like giant babies so yes, I'd rather see them in non-lolita clothing.

[Anonymous No.8059576]

>>8058744
I don't know much about lolita, but her outfit looks fine to me. Everything seems to fit. I have seen far worse looking thin people in lolita.

Also, her dog is so cute! And it's little outfit? Ahhhh!

[Anonymous No.8059580]

>>8059570
Maybe it's my education, but crap food is not even that good ? I mean I sometimes drink soda or eat chips like everyone, but fast-food burger vs. homemade burger doesn't stand a second. Healthier food is often tastier imo. I mean if your steak is good you don't need to slather it in sauce right ?

[Anonymous No.8059585]

>>8059580
If you never had parents that cooked for you, and only ever bought you maccas you're not really going to know that.

[Anonymous No.8059586]

>>8059580
Yes, this. I think much processed food tastes of preservative and omg...the salt.

[Anonymous No.8059588]

>>8058826
>>8058829
Insecure fatties.

[Anonymous No.8059591]

>>8059560
Being 120 pounds doesn't mean your small though. Depending on your height and body shape. Personally I'm 5'6 and have a huge bust and have stayed 120 ~126 pounds since 9th grade.
The dress has to be able to accommodate my curves which are actual curves.

[Anonymous No.8059601]

>>8059064

Holy moly u a cutie.

But I definitely know what you mean. I lost a ton of weight in 2012 and felt incredible. I was much more focused and felt so energetic.

Now in 2015 I've put back on all my weight and feel pretty shitty. Not just mentally, but physically. It does strain the body lugging around extra weight.

[Anonymous No.8059607]

>>8059580
Homemade burgers aren't exactly diet food either unless you use different bread, sauce and meat. And yes it's your "education".

[Anonymous No.8059632]

>>8059575
Yes they're rare. I just meant when people say they gained weight because of an illness it's not really hard to believe, considering all the mental and physical illness you can have. Granted you can still be disabled and fit but it takes much more motivation than a regular person so I find that a bit hypocritical to say "x is in a wheelchair and still fit, what's your excuse" for example.

Also I can't dress in lolita without taking care of my hairs, skin and make up but in casual I barely bother putting on make up. I assume it's the same for fat lolitas so they usually take care of themselves a bit more than in casual. Though I agree a lot of them look ugly in and out of lolita but then again, I'd rather see a lolita who put on make up and did their hair than a fat girl dressed in sweat pants.

[Anonymous No.8059636]

>>8059632
>>8059575

So, my dad has asthma and he was on prednisone for most of his life because of how bad it was. Well, it caused him to gain a fuck ton of weight unfortunately (like 80lbs). He was never able to lose it regardless of what he did. Well, they took him off of it a few years ago because that also fucked up his knees. He instantly (like within the course of 6 months w/o changing his habits) lost 90% of that weight, which then enabled him to get knee surgery.

So sometimes, it's not an actual illness causing the weight gain, but rather, the effects of the drugs to combat the illness. Not saying this is always the case, but I was a pretty chubby kid even though my parents ate right and I was active. And I think my own prednisone therapy probably had something to do with it. But that didn't excuse my weight gain after I was taken off of the steroids.

[Anonymous No.8059637]

>>8059636
No medication causes significant weight gain. Its the same as any other condishun, sure maybe 20lbs max in water retention.

[Anonymous No.8059638]

>>8059637
Alright, keep telling yourself that anon. Because fuck my actual experience and medical opinions though.
>I know everything about every medicine and "condishun" hurdur

[Anonymous No.8059643]

>>8059638
I dont need to, its simple thermodynamics. Energy in, Energy out. Unless you somehow violate the laws of physics

[Anonymous No.8059645]

>>8059643
Silly anon, don't you know the laws of science and math mean nothing in the Fatosphere?

[Anonymous No.8059673]

I'm a skinnyfat, 46kg at 5"1. I'm getting older and so I know I need to start making an effort if I want to retain my squishy-but-thin size. Simple stuff like less 3am snacks, packed lunches and taking the stairs instead of escalators, I haven't seen a change yet but I'm not going for weight loss, just a sustained current size, it feels good knowing I've started to try.

The biggest thing in my way though is the constant topic of food and weight loss from girls. I'm an emotional eater and I don't stop even i it hurts. Even if I can stop thinking about cakes and carbs for more than a minute, my facebook feed is filled with thinly veiled anorexia-boast status updates or 'real woman have curves' rants. Tumblr is like 40% nicely photographed sweets from Japan. This board is fucking cancer, too, can't read a single thread about dresses without the obesity debate starting. I can do just fine if I just keep my mind off of food or weight loss, but seeing everyone talking about it just makes me want to eat.
I think the next step in my journey is cutting a lot of people and and blogs out of my life.

Sage for blog

[Anonymous No.8059679]

>>8059673
You are following the wrong people. Not everyone posts that stuff.

[Anonymous No.8059702]

>>8059673
Hey Anon, this is a really weird suggestion but I was in a similar boat with eating/nail biting and ended up buying a no-nicotine vape and a bunch of sweet flavors. It really helps curb the craving and I only eat when I'm actually hungry now - and I tend to only go for savory food now

[Anonymous No.8059764]

>>8059702
That's actually an interesting idea.
I'd heard about sugar free gum, but this is cool too. I'll do some research because I'm scared of vape but thank you.
Hope you and your nails are feeling well and helathy.
>>8059679
Fixing that.

[Anonymous No.8059788]

>>8058744
I have to admit, she is the most adorable and well dressed landwhale I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.8059802]

>>8058826
replace 0 and 1 with 'eat a sammich' and then it would be perfect (because /cgl/ is never satisfied).

[Anonymous No.8059806]

>>8059764
I chew a lot of gum, the issue is you get the shits. Truth is the easiest way is to be busy mentally or physically all day.

[Anonymous No.8059807]

>>8058914
OT I've been wanting to make something with this fabric, nice to see what can be done.

[Anonymous No.8059811]

So this is now happening in the UK. A campaign to encourage fatties to exercise through encouragement rather than shaming. I can't help seeing it as "I'm better than you because I'm exercising even though I'm fat whereas its easier for you because you're thin"

[Anonymous No.8059813]

>>8059811
Good, let them feel superior about exercising. If that's gonna get them healthy I don't mind one bit.

[Anonymous No.8059816]

>>8059150
I know that, but for people who actually want joy when stuffing their gobs with food, that doesn't do them any good.

In my personal experience, food had a lot of emotional ties for me. So while the repetition helped with planning meals, it left me emotionally satisfied. I didn't lose a massive amount of weight until I made more money and could shake things up.

>>8059168
Good for you, but if I want fresh versus frozen (and don't tell me there's no difference), it's still pretty fucked up that a fresh bag of spinach costs more than the dollar menu at McD's. Not that that's what I'd choose, but you get the point.

>>8059184
>Frozen fruit and vegetables aren't processed
Depends.
Also they happen to be the fruits/veggies that are low quality and couldn't be sold as fresh anyway. Depending on the vegetable, they've also been precooked and have lost some nutritional value. Don't assume people who notice this must alternatively be eating mac n cheese everyday instead.

>>8059176
>Like you fucking know.
I do. Ever hear of mercury? Even eating canned salmon or smoked herring would be better for you than eating a can of tuna everyday. I know all the /fit/ cooking graphs say tuna, but you should really think about the buildup that's happening in your body.
>Poor people are fat because they can't budget.
Anon, I'm glad you survived being poor. No really, I am, but your personal anecdote doesn't account for all the others who weren't so lucky. You can't solely blame poor people when marketers and grocers blatantly use tactics to sell them their processed shit, and make it cheap for them to do so.
>Grocery stores sell meat for cheap if it's short dated
Not at every grocery store. The only meat I ever see get cheap is offal. And while offal is delicious, it can't be healthily eaten every night.
>dollar stores have produce
Again, sounds like a *you* situation.

>weh fatty
>mfw I've lost 80 pounds in the past two years
Sorry, I just know what I'm saying.

[Anonymous No.8059821]

>>8059811
>"I'm better than you because I'm exercising even though I'm fat whereas its easier for you because you're thin"

That's....really contrived anon.
I'm sure for once they're happy to have an environment where they won't have to hear about being judged for being fat people exercising.

[Anonymous No.8059828]

>>8059643
>muhhurr physics
>thermodynamics
>ruling out external factors like drugs and immobility issues because it doesn't fit your thermo theory
>"science"

[Anonymous No.8059852]

>>8058944
>5'9
>my healthy weight is 180 according to my doctor
>smaller than that I look emaciated

Are you serious? Please be trolling. I'm 5'10, 180lbs right now but I was 165lbs before november. Even at 165lbs I was pudgy, and that's a technically healthy weight for my height. I'm 180lbs right now and there is no way I am looking anywhere near emaciated. You are either delusional or have some form of BDD.

>>8058948
Girl... please. I don't mean this in a bad way. I used to be 240lbs last year also, and yes it's hard and it's intimidating and it takes a long time. That is the real reason you don't want to do it. Don't blame "not being able to afford to eat right". I saved money on all my food when I started dieting. I think you and I both know food is expensive, and it's expensive when you're buying garbage. When you're dieting you're eating less so you'd be saving money, if not then you're doing something wrong.
I had a food budget of €20 a week and I managed to "eat right" and lose weight absolutely no problem while having a fine amount to eat every day. Sometimes I just didn't have money and you know what? I still didn't buy junk food "because it's cheap", I made do and just ate less than usual. If you, for some reason, just HAVE to have the extra calories, then you exercise it off. It's not rocket science. For your own sake, face up to the fact you'll have a lot of weight to lose. The more you blame other factors the longer you'll be obese.

[Anonymous No.8059857]

>>8059811

I don't think it is about exercising being superior because one is fat. I think it is about dispelling the myth that everyone is going to make fun of you if you exercise while fat... and that proper clothes prevent you from falling over with heat stroke.

(This is a very real fear of certain fat people's mind. They think we laugh at them for exercising... which is stupid.)

And if you laugh at the fat people running... shame on your soul.

[Anonymous No.8059861]

>>8059816
I'm not assuming anything, she said herself that Kraft and ramen and pasta are cheaper than veggies and fruits, so that's what she eats, so that's why she's keeping weight.
Even if they do have lower nutritional value, I'd say it's still better for you than that shit, and eating them over ramen /will/ help you lose weight, regardless. So that's why I say she's making excuses. She wants to lose weight, but doesn't want to eat processed fruits and veggies because they're "unhealthy". So she eats cheap shit instead. It's just bs.

[Anonymous No.8059865]

>>8059852
Preach girl. I am a university student with a chronic illness in one of the most expensive cities in the world and that was approximately my weekly budget as well. Lost 30lbs just walking to class and eating less bullshit food, because bullshit and junk food is expensive. Put down the Ben and Jerry's and pick up an apple.

[Anonymous No.8059875]

>>8059865
Right? Anyone who claims that eating "right" to lose weight is too expensive is full of shit anyway. You don't NEED to eat healthy to lose weight, it's just encouraged. I could eat as much chocolate/pasta/bread/pizza as I wanted so long as it was under my maintenance and I'd still lose weight.
It's just another excuse people use to avoid tackling the issue, but it's not like it will magically go away on it's own. It's better to just accept it and get it over with.

[Anonymous No.8059877]

>>8059861
>she said herself that Kraft and ramen and pasta are cheaper than veggies and fruits
If she's arguing about fresh fruits and veggies, then she's correct. Frozen, no.

I'm not making excuses for someone else's weight. I just think it's fucked up that processed junk costs less than fresh, healthy food on average. Almost everyone knows that junk food isn't healthy. Almost everyone knows that a healthy meal that's prepared with wholesome ingredients will taste far better than a cup of ramen any day.
All I'm saying is that then there must be reasons, legitimate reasons, that people continue to stuff junk into their mouths if there are healthy options that actually taste better and cost less. And I don't buy that every overweight person does so because they are lazy and indulgent. It's an equation that people in bariatric science are trying to pinpoint.

[Anonymous No.8059882]

>>8059875
>I could eat as much chocolate/pasta/bread/pizza as I wanted so long as it was under my maintenance and I'd still lose weight.
You wouldn't be healthy. You'd likely develop malnutrition.
Your body wouldn't be getting enough protein, so even if you did exercise, you'd just wind up maintaining the same bodyfat percentage despite dropping numbers on the scale. You'd look like flab.

[Anonymous No.8059890]

>>8059882
Read please:
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

[Anonymous No.8059894]

>>8059890
>http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/

>believing clickbait because of a few buzzwords
>Despite his temporary success, Haub does not recommend replicating his snack-centric diet.
>Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food.
>>****He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily.
>>****And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.

Yeah, so no, it wasn't full twinkie diet. It was a calculated diet with protein shakes and vitamins because YOU CAN'T GET NUTRITION FROM JUNK ALONE.

[Anonymous No.8059895]

>>8059875
>exercise and keep an eye on my diet to stay slim
>because of this I can afford to indulge in fattening foods occasionally
>generally do so at tea party meetups once every two months or so
>tfw accused of being bulimic because apparently fitting into burando on a diet that sometimes includes chocolate cake is IMPOSSIBURU

[Anonymous No.8059898]

>>8059895
Are you sure it's because you don't look sick?

[Anonymous No.8059908]

>>8059882
>>8059890
Basically: eat at a calorie deficit. Try to eat healthy when possible, but when in doubt take a multivitamin. Buy them in bulk when possible if you need one.

Research which frozen or canned veggies are just as healthy, or healthier (as studies have shown, I believe it is tomatoes are better canned?) And watch for sales. Ramen may be easy, but see if you can locate bulk rice instead. Or potatoes, as a carb. Because ramen kills you on sodium. Or don't add the flavoring packet. Whatever was on sale that week was what I ate. Frozen mixed veggies with rice and discount chicken. Day old bagels. Hardboiled eggs. Whatever. Just eat under calories.

It is about being smart. Not rich. Smart.

[Anonymous No.8059909]

>>8059816

Anon, flash frozen veggies are actually very healthy for you so long as they haven't been irradiated. It is especially better if your buying vegetables/fruit that don't even grow anywhere near your locality. I'm referring to simple, nothing added, frozen bulk veggies. If low quality is really your concern, then you have to buy only that which grows both locally and seasonally.

Canned salmon and tuna are both unhealthy for you. Canned salmon is often farm raised, leaving it with pollutants similar to canned tuna. Smoked herring is extremely high in salt like smoked salmon.

I like to buy frozen, wild caught salmon. It is about 10$ for 8 pieces. Otherwise I buy turkey meat, chicken thighs, and drumsticks. (Drumsticks are super cheap, please pull the skin off before cooking!) If I have extra money, I'll buy other meats. I agree meat is the most expensive part of eating fresh. You don't have to buy offal to eat cheap.

>Poor people are fat because they can't budget.
I know most poor people I know who are overweight are caught in a cycle of obesity, highly processed foods, and dollar menu items. Switching over to a fresh, poor man's diet would more then likely feel like a starvation diet... Eating fresh poor means lots of vegetables with little meat, butter, cheeses, and oils.

>Get cheap is offal.
Er, where are you shopping or do you live in a large area? Ask the meat department workers. I do a lot of my shopping at around 11 p.m. to 1 a.m. and I noticed that's when most the meat goes on special. (I think they throw it away in the morning.) If you live in a metropolitan area, then the meat might very well get bought up too quickly.

Now... I've never known a dollar store to have produce, only that produce can be bought on a dollar.. the dollar stores here sell packaged goods like ramen, cookies, ketchup, and that sort of thing. No veggies.

[Anonymous No.8059916]

>>8059877
She was arguing about fresh fruits and veggies, which is iffy to me because I know at my chain grocery store, fresh veggies and fruits are still the cheapest stuff I buy, but that may be a local thing. But she was also saying she wanted organic, which is higher in price, and even if it's better for you, is still unnecessary.

Is it fucked up that processed shit is cheaper than healthy food? Yes, absolutely and I don't think anyone will disagree. But if your main goal is to lose weight, my point was that, while frozen produce still is far from the best for you, it'll still serve your purpose better than top noodle. And there are still other options. Beans, tuna, brown rice (in small portions obviously), even canned stuff. This stuff isn't ideal, but if you're going for weight loss they'll do the job, and there's lots you can do with them.
I don't know, I haven't struggled with being overweight so I can't say I'm an expert, but I know that people are very indulgent (myself included) and we like to make excuses for our shitty way of life.

[Anonymous No.8059919]

>>8059908
>Try to eat healthy when possible, but when in doubt take a multivitamin.

No, it's way more than this.
Your primary concerns need to be lean protein (to feel full and to keep your muscles strong) and fiber (to digest the protein and keep you feeling full longer). Multivitamins are good, yes, but they're not as effective as getting nutrition from food. Especially if there's no medical supervision. The biggest problems with overweight people is that they have malnutrition, so their brains are triggering a chemical response to make them eat; they're also not eating foods that will help them stay fuller longer. Some foods actually trigger an appetite increase like starches and sugars.

That said: Not everyone knows about that nutritional tidbit I just said. Even some of my slim friends have no idea what they should be feeding themselves, and as a result they're often sick. Honestly, fat people don't really need the carbs (not to mention insulin spike) from consuming ramen, bread, or rice. People can get carbs from meats, beans, and vegetables just fine.

Now I'm not saying that one has to be rich to afford lean proteins and fresh veggies, but it is an expense. To college students it's a huge expense. To people who can't qualify for government assistance, it's a huge expense. It's no coincidence that these people tend to be the most overweight.

[Anonymous No.8059921]

>>8059894
Bitch, I read it. Did you? He ate MOSTLY junk food with a supplement of a multivitamin/protein and the occasional veg. The fucking point is that you can have an utter shit diet and still lose weight and be moderately healthy. Just because it wasn't 100% of his calories doesn't mean it wasn't a shit diet. Most people, even poor students, have some form of non-sweet junk food nutritional intake per day.

And he is legally obligated to not recommend anyone replicate the diet. Its to protect his ass, and also eating pure shit by choice is just stupid.

[Anonymous No.8059925]

>>8059882
Thank you for the random and completely obvious fact? Was it even necessary to bring that up? Anyone with half a brain knows that.
It still doesn't change the fact you can lose weight even eating shitty foods.

[Anonymous No.8059929]

>>8059882
>you'd just wind up maintaining the same bodyfat percentage despite dropping numbers on the scale

Yeah, no. You'd lose muscle eating a bad diet but you also lose fat.

[Anonymous No.8059930]

>>8059916
Organic is not better for you. That's a myth.

[Anonymous No.8059931]

>>8059909
>Canned salmon and tuna are both unhealthy for you.
I'm not saying they're healthy and should be eaten everyday. BUT, canned salmon has a lower mercury content than tuna. That's why it's better, not for sodium reasons. All canned food tends to have a high sodium content, no question.
>I like to buy frozen, wild caught salmon. It is about 10$ for 8 pieces.
Not bad anon. A farm raised filet for me costs around $12. But I'll be moving to the southern coast soon so I'll have cheaper seafood again.

And idk, around here a 4lb package of cheap chicken (thighs/drums) can run a person $9 minimum. I think I just live in an expensive rural area so nothing is really cheap. Even the farmer's market that happens every so often is ridiculously priced.

You're right that sometimes the meat is marked down at the end of the night, but it tends to be processed cuts of meat or fatty parts of pork. I rarely see chicken and red meat go down.

[Anonymous No.8059932]

>>8059919
Yeah, I know all that. I'm just trying to simplify for people who dumb it down to "I'm fat because I can't afford to lose weight". Nutrition actually is a hobby of mine (has to be because of my obnoxious health issues), but if people still have the mental block of weight loss being some magical combo of personal trainers and expensive organic kale-wheatgrass-rainbows salads, then nothing will help them. Start from simple and stupid.

[Anonymous No.8059934]

>>8059921
>with a supplement of a multivitamin/protein
Why are you underplaying this? It's HUGE. He needed these everyday.
>occasional veg
No, he ate a can of vegetables every day.

You can't eat just junk and meet your nutritional needs AND be healthy while doing so. You'd need multivitamins, you'd need protein supplements, and you'd need to add some sort of vegetable minimum. So no, you cannot.

[Anonymous No.8059935]

>>8059932
I agree with you anon. It's all basic calories in calories out, for the most part.

[Anonymous No.8059936]

>>8059929
Do you know how percentages work?

If your muscles atrophy, and your body maintains a relative amount of fat, does the bodyfat percentage stay the same or decrease just because you lost mass? Think about it.

[Anonymous No.8059941]

>>8059934
I thought we were emphasizing the fact that weight loss isn't expensive and can be done with junk food? Not that it is the best method or the healthiest, but still possible. If anon is already sustaining herself off a diet of ramen and kraft, its not like she's downgrading much nutrition-wise...

[Anonymous No.8059942]

>>8059898
I look fine and I eat well. By "keep an eye on my diet" I mean that I make sure not to mindlessly indulge in empty calories and junk food, not that I starve myself. Only fat people have ever accused me of having an ED because I guess they like to think that the only way to be slim is to suffer.

[Anonymous No.8059943]

>>8059932
My apologies, it seems we're not necessarily disagreeing with each other.

I may just be rustled because there's some dipshit anon seriously saying itt that weight loss done on junk food alone is worth something just because a person weighs less.

[Anonymous No.8059944]

>>8059941
>I thought we were emphasizing the fact that weight loss isn't expensive and can be done with junk food?
What's the point if you'll be as unhealthy as you were when you were overweight and eating a more diverse diet? The point of losing weight is health, not stupid aestheticism.

[Anonymous No.8059952]

>>8059944
>The point of losing weight is health, not stupid aestheticism
Sure thing honey. And as the anon has said before if she was eating shit nutritionally before she might as well keep eating shit nutritionally but at least not look like shit and make her body suffer from the weight on top.

[Anonymous No.8059960]

>>8059952
>Sure thing honey.
Uhm...hence the discussion about healthy food costs versus unhealthy food costs. Hence why that professor still consumed protein shakes and multivitamins, and only did the diet for two months, instead of all out consuming soda and cake over the course of a year.

Nobody sane wants to die earlier than they should just so they can neener about being skinnyfat for a couple years.

[Anonymous No.8059961]

>>8058922
>>8058922

I'm sorry but as someone who is built thicker because of ethnicity (caribbean) and is officially below the poverty line in the uk, I'm still not that big.

I went to a private school with alot of skinny upper class girls who could afford fresh, unprocessed food every day, au pairs to help cook it, personal trainers even. I was thick compared to them at roughly 65kg and 5ft despite eatin one meal a day. Even still I managed to exercise over 10kgs off, to the point I was looking pretty damn anorexic, slow metabolism and all. I'm a healthy weight now (57kg), still poor, an ex smoker, on birth control, still depressed, still eating the processed shit my parents work hard for and I STILL have a 23 inch waist and 33 inch bust. I did not want to develop full blown t2 diabetes like the majority of my overweight family. I do have inpaired glucose intolerance and insulin resistance so produce tons of it, which would also predispose me to gaining weight.

Just like I can't advocate being severely underweight, I can't advocate being *obese*. We are not talking about tall, solidly built girls, we are not talking about slightly chubby or thick set girls, being that fucking fat means you just EAT TOO MUCH. Trust me I understand being depressed, having chronic pain that impairs exercise, comfort eating (full on bingeing even) but getting to that size is a full on refusal to take any responsibilty for yourself at all. It's gluttony and makes a huge health concern and inconvenience for yourself and others. Both extremes of the weight scale are bad.

I will say I'll give credit where it's due for dressing well, regardless of size. I just cannot say it's acceptable to be that size and expect everyone to be ok with it.

[Anonymous No.8059962]

>>8059952
So you're saying that weight should be about what others think of you and not to better yourself to live a more fulfilling life?
You opinion is credible /sarcasm

[Anonymous No.8059967]

>>8059962
>>8059960
Her lifestyle was shit with or without extra weight. Stop making excuses. You weren't cutting down on vitamins in your diet.

[Anonymous No.8059978]

>>8058803
Who is she? She's cute

[Anonymous No.8059983]

>>8059967
>Her lifestyle was shit with or without extra weight.
And by your stupid ass theory it would magically be better if she switched to an all junk diet, making herself sick, just so she can say she "lost weight." Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.8059988]

If anybody knows what science is then you should know that weight loss is a simple formula that will always work.

You don't have to buy anything extra to lose weight. You don't have to exercise to lose weight. You don't have to buy healthy foods to lose weight. You can eat less of the shitty food you normally eat and remain a couch monster, and you'll still lose weight.

Losing weight takes less effort, if anything.

[Anonymous No.8059992]

>>8059983
> it would magically be better if she switched to an all junk diet
What. Anons were talking about rice, cheap meats and frozen vegetables, weren't they?

[Anonymous No.8060002]

>>8059992
I don't even know what the fuck they're talking about anymore.
All I know is some smartass posted some quack professor's attempt at a fad diet (which he was on for a measly two months and took supplements at that), when the solution to solving an obese person's weight problems is healthy dieting and exercise. Not fucking crash diets that are DOOMED to fail for people who need more than a few months of weight loss.

Everything about cheap veggies and meats has already been agreed upon.

Now I'm pissed that the same little shit is saying that the end game of weight loss is about ~looking good~ and not about health, which is actually the entire fucking point of losing weight. Looking better should only be a perk.