black facing in cosplay

[Anonymous No.8058412]

picture relevant

thoughts?

[Anonymous No.8058414]

>>8058412
who gives a shit aslong as it's done well (which it almost never is)?

this is just a thread supposed to start flamewars because there's so much tumblr on this board that'll throw a hissyfit about MUH RACISM

[Anonymous No.8058433]

Except it's not black facing.....
you fucking tumblr idiots can't tell the difference between theater makeup and actual blackface

[Anonymous No.8058449]

>>8058412
Go back to tumblr, asshat.

[Anonymous No.8058452]

>>8058412
>that file name
>"you are the whitest white girl n0"
>thinking slightly changing your skin colour is black face
>actually starting this thread

Please leave and delete the thread while you're at it.

[Anonymous No.8058453]

So are they gonna fuck or not

[Anonymous No.8058468]

>>8058452
I've always found it funny how tumblr is super racially sensitive but use white girl and white boy as derogatory terms

[Anonymous No.8058480]

I don't see how people don't see the difference between blackface and darkening your skin to look like a character. Blackface is terrible, but there's nothing wrong with a white guy wearing brown body paint to look like Garterbelt.

[Anonymous No.8058492]

>>8058412
Black face ≠ bronzer. Learn the difference, OP.

[Anonymous No.8058496]

>>8058492
Basic tumblr users really don't know the difference.

[Anonymous No.8058578]

>>8058412
Blackface isn't cool but changing your ethnicity via makeup is fine. The difference is that blackface is made to mock whereas changing race itself is not necessarily for that reason. Of course you could easily insult someone while in this makeup but the makeup itself is not offensive.

One of the most common arguments is that it is a case of white privilege. Just because you have privilege and can wash off the race you portray doesn't mean it is bad, having privilege is good, it just means you should be aware that some people don't have it as good as you.

[Anonymous No.8058606]

>>8058468
Because to tumblr shits like that it is a derogatory term. As well as just being white, being white, cis or male and/or any combination will make you the devil to people like that.

[Anonymous No.8058609]

I think it's fine as long as you use the right shade of shoe polish.

[Anonymous No.8058656]

>>8058578
I agree

[Anonymous No.8058666]

>>8058412
>thoughts
9/10 times putting on dark makeup just looks like you smeared shit all over yourself.
It just looks terrible. don't do it.

If you want to cosplay a darker character get a tan or a spray tan.

or you don't have to cosplay said darker character at all since theres tons of options for you to cosplay the at will be skin tone accurate.


Either way, just please don't look makeup, it looks horrible as hell. no sjw is going to pull you aside if you got yourself a tan.

[Anonymous No.8058725]

don't do blackface or any racebending via makeup because
1. it looks shitty
2. even if you're just doing it to """accurately cosplay a character""" someone's ethnicity isn't a costume
3. if you are pale you've got 94304839048 other characters to cosplay this shit isn't even necessary
and yeah i know the picture OP posted isn't Technically black facing seeing as black face refers to a really specific kind of makeup used in minstrel shows it's still in terrible taste and there's no good reason to do it

[Anonymous No.8058740]

>>8058412
Who is she supposed to be because she looks like when Dee from It's Always Sunny dressed as her character "Martina Martinez". Piss poor job.

[Anonymous No.8058758]

>>8058740
Guinevere from BBC Merlin. They made her black for some dumbass reason.

[Anonymous No.8058767]

>>8058740
yo when you be cosplayin' why you look so stoopid? Jus kidin!

[Tim No.8058791]

I think you can do it if:
-You know what the fuck you're doing in terms of actually applying makeup (see: Not OP)
-You don't give a fuck and can live with being called/considered insensitive or an asshole.

People can argue about this to high hell and back, but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people, whether savvy to cosplaying or not, are offended by the practice of changing your skin color for the sake of costume. I don't think it's fair to disregard the opinions of people who have very valid reasons of disliking this practice. At the end of the day, you're arguing about your right to engage in a hobby over the feelings of people with a history of oppression and misrepresentation (the ramifications of which still persist as extremely real, tangible problems today).

If it's that important to you, do it, fine whatever. If you acknowledge and accept the fact that you're being a little of an asshole, at least you have that. I think what's worse than actually changing the color of your skin for cosplay is doing that and trying to deny racism or even claiming that you're trying to fight racism or something. At that point, you're an asshole, you're ignorant, AND you're a hypocrite, in which case, just do everyone a favor and quarantine yourself from the rest of humanity.

I dunno, my two cents.

[Anonymous No.8058795]

>>8058725
tumblr pls go
you're not welcome here

[Anonymous No.8058798]

>>8058758
Maybe the best actress that auditioned was black.

[Anonymous No.8058806]

>>8058609
kek

[Anonymous No.8058810]

>>8058412
This is blackface you goddamn waste of space. Yes, I mad.

[Anonymous No.8058822]

>>8058798
not that anon, but she's not good in the role at all. it was an obvious "diversity for the sake of diversity" situation. fucking disgusting.

[Anonymous No.8058837]

>>8058412
I've yet to see an example of it done well. People use bronzer or darker foundation and they just look fucking dirty, or like they got a shit spraytan. Unless you really know what you're doing as far as colors and contouring, don't do it. It's really not important for your skin color to be correct, and if it is to you, just pick a different character. I've seen too many shit attempts.
I guess I can't really say whether it's offensive or not because I'm white, so no, it's not to me personally, but I can see how an actual person of color could be pissed.

[Anonymous No.8058841]

I don't really care if they're race bending. Blackface is different, it's More of a caricature of black people.

[Anonymous No.8058847]

>>8058412
I have zero problems with it. Black people would be doing white-face all the time if their features weren't so apeish and their skin so dark. They're just ass-blasted they can't.

[Anonymous No.8058850]

>>8058666
>9/10 times putting on dark makeup just looks like you smeared shit all over yourself.
>implying that's not an accurate depiction of blacks

[Anonymous No.8058881]

>>8058795
buddy it just looks ugly and it's not necessary. no need to call tumblr when someone points out that it looks fucking stupid and there's no point to it when literally 90% of anime / video game charas have a paler complexion :^)

[Anonymous No.8058898]

>>8058881
This logic is fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.8058921]

>>8058881
yet the very same people who say this claim skin tone is irrelevant when ~nubian goddesses~ cosplay white characters. apparently it's only racist to say a person should stick to characters with their skin tone when whites say it about blacks?

[Anonymous No.8058932]

>>8058791
>wahhh wahhh makeup is oppressing me!!!111!!11!

[Anonymous No.8058947]

>>8058725
>It looks shitty if you don't blend and contour right
>It's a character. I just want to do the character right and going pale when they're not looks bad.
>Maybe I don't like those other characters

Also no one does actual blackface anymore and that term really needs to die off unless you're talking about racist theaters and propaganda pre-1960.

[Anonymous No.8058965]

>>8058921
it's funny how brown/black people don't paint themselves white to do it tho. also funny how brown/black people don't have a whole lot of choices if they want to cosplay a character that they both enjoy + have the same skin color as them. on top of that there's plenty of black characters in anime are there for comic relief/or don't get major parts in the series. don't pretend it's the same issue just so you can cry sjw

[Anonymous No.8058991]

>>8058798
If that was the best actress, they should have canceled the show. She isn't that great. It was an intentional 'hmmm, who can we make black to satisfy the tumblrtard wankers' casting.

[Anonymous No.8058995]

>>8058947
people don't cosplay things because they're too skinny, too busty, too tall, too short, etc. it's the same thing. sometimes you just won't suit characters it's nbd

[Anonymous No.8059011]

>>8058991
>merlin aired in 2008
>implying tumblr even had a huge sj crowd at this point
>alright

[Anonymous No.8059016]

>>8059011
>the jews didn't do this
multiculti is good, anon :)

[Anonymous No.8059482]

>>8058740
I read that in her voice.
Fuckn lol'd

[Anonymous No.8059497]

>>8058841
Avdol isn't black.

[Anonymous No.8059597]

The facebook thread is hilarious. A bunch of white teenagers telling her that she was completely in the right and is a perfect Gwen.
Also that painting yourself blue for Avatar characters and Smurfs etc is exactly the same!!11!!

Top kek.

I think it was wrong, and looks weird. Tanning for a cosplay is fine but come on; this chick looks like a Freddo.

[Anonymous No.8059610]

>>8058991
'Progressiveness' has been around for awhile.

[Anonymous No.8059614]

>>8058412
never ok. fuck. it's 2015.

[Anonymous No.8059621]

>>8058965
Going more than a couple of shades lighter in makeup isn't very easy, lighter to darker is.

Cosplay should be colorblind and this should not an issue unless racial slurs/stereotyping etc. are being played out. That would make it not ok. Otherwise it's just another dumb nitpick.

[Anonymous No.8059799]

>>8058412
I'm more bothered by their fucking fabric choices. Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.8059827]

[Anonymous No.8060165]

>>8059497
He's Egyptian middle-eastern/ afro-asiatic

I don't think it's too far to consider him part (maybe) black, but idk if that person was actually calling him black or just using a racebend example. At least he can be cosplayed by a black person haha.

[Anonymous No.8060212]

>>8059614
which is why we should be able to get past this stupid issue. because cosplayers aren't even DOING blackface or whatever you think it is.

[Anonymous No.8060311]

>>8059827
oh no
no no no no no
girl youre not black

[Anonymous No.8060315]

>/r/ing change.org petition to remove /pol/ trolls from other boards

[Anonymous No.8060320]

>>8059827
She changed her nose, she added scar wax(?) to make it bigger wtf

[Anonymous No.8060324]

>>8059827
This is pretty well done, actually. Even got the apelike nose right.

[Anonymous No.8060354]

I always wonder if people realize that a character isn't gone just because a white person cosplayed them.

A friend of mine used a darker make up for some character and even ater hours it was really flawless and nicely done and people complimented her all the time about it.
If people put effort into it, it can look nice.

I am so sick of this discussion always being brought up by tumblr sjws after we had that huge discussion about the gal cosplaying that black woman from the walking dead.
Black anons were more offended about white teen girls patronizing them than about someone wanting to cosplay their favorite character.

Also: americunts not realizing blackface and the like is barely an issue or barely even known in a lot of parts of the world.

[Anonymous No.8060466]

Why dont black people do whiteface when they cosplay white characters?

[Anonymous No.8060484]

>>8060466
Because they generally can't; they'd look like a monkey covered in house paint.

It's why they hate when white people racebend: we can even make our noses look bigger like in >>8059827, while they can't squeeze their silverback noses smaller or make their brown skin white.

They're jealous, so they play the oppression card. It's the only thing they know how to do, so I really can't blame them....

[Anonymous No.8060495]

>Why do people continue to make these stupid threads?
>What is bait?

[Anonymous No.8060531]

>>8058725
Saying someone's ethnicity isn't a costume is retarded.
In that case, it's sexist for a man to cosplay as a woman or vice versa-- or even a trans person to cosplay as a cis person or vice versa-- because "their gender isn't a costume."
That's some bullshit.

[Anonymous No.8060588]

I come bringing fun from tumblr.

[Anonymous No.8060601]

>>8058841
>THAT KAKYOIN'S WIG

[Anonymous No.8060618]

>>8058412
that bitch is orange

[Anonymous No.8060622]

>>8060588
I remember seeing this on my dash. Tumblr kids are so fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.8060632]

>>8060531
>>8058578

But seriously, when do you ever see black/tan cosplayers making their skin white via makeup to look like other characters??

Exactly, they don't. I don't care if it's racist or not, it just looks stupid cosplay wise. I'd rather see 300 pound wonder woman to be honest.

[Anonymous No.8060641]

>>8060632
Why put the effort into painting your skin white when you can get praise from thousands of white guilt tumblr kids just for being black?

[Anonymous No.8060649]

>>8060632
I've seen a few, and a few tutorials on youtube. Both races do it, but it's a bigger deal when white people race-bend because people scream black face at the drop of a fucking hat.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmRFkIzxCVY

Also everyone who does race bent make-up don't know jack shit about how to do make-up, how it works, what doesn't work etc. People who do race bent make-up usually can't even do their eyeliner correctly.

[Anonymous No.8060759]

>>8060649
>that lg envy from 2007