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She's made a post today her current Lola cosplay went viral and she suddenly gained around 450k almost overnight. However she doesn't seem that surprised/humbled by it. How on earth did this happen? Does anyone know where she got shared that made THIS big of a difference in such a very short time??

>> No.8056847

>>8056843
You clearly missed the threads about the Metamorphose and Lolitadesu Facebook contests.
Buying likes is easy as pie, anon. And it's cheap as hell.

>> No.8056851

>>8056847
Could you please link me to this thread?

>> No.8056861

>>8056847
>Buying likes

why go that far?

>> No.8056866

>>8056851
There were multiple, and they were a few months back. That's really the only part of them that's relevant to your thread though; it's extremely easy to buy Facebook likes and one should never judge popularity on that number. Also, the days of being able to hold fair popularity contests are also long over. That's a lot of likes though, she probably spent $400-$500 on them.

>> No.8056868

>>8056843
As someone who's spoken to her since this has occurred. It's actually freaked her out quite a bit.
Imagine your page randomly going up by that much in one night. It's enough to put anyone off.

Did she buy them? No, I don't think so.

The reason being she's been very public about the influx of private messages [mostly containing porn of Lola bunny] since this occurred. hundreds of PM's in one night etc. Plus she isn't the most thick skinned person out there either which makes me suspect it even less.

>> No.8056873

>>8056861
Prizes, in the case of the contests. The grand prize for the Lolitadesu contest was a lucky pack valued at $800, and the Meta contest gave several hundred dollars worth of in-store credit to the top 3 winners. Meta's contest was purely based on Likes though, while Lolitadesu's only used the Likes to create a top ten from which the judges selected the winner.

>> No.8056879

>>8056868
Sounds like she's trying to deflect suspicion of buying likes, tbh.

>> No.8056884

It's very easy to figure out if someone's bought likes or not.

If you look at her posts, she's not getting the right kind of traffic for someone who has half a million likes.
They're definitely bought. There's no question.

This is something she will surely regret in the long run.

>> No.8056893

>>8056879
Possibly.
>>8056884
Yeah the metrics never lie.

>> No.8056894

Considering Facebook only lets you reach like 15-20% of your total followers, most people with 200-300k usually have between 7-12k likes on a photo. I thought poor traffic is what Facebook does on purpose to MAKE you promote your page.

>> No.8056896

>>8056884
This.

A lot of sites where you can buy likes warn you of this, because these are not going to be accounts that also interact with your posts. All this does is inflate that one number on your front page. You can buy likes for individual posts separately, but it's extremely time consuming and gets expensive very quickly if you post a lot of content (not to mention, the likes don't post immediately and you usually have to wait several days for them unless the service offers a speedier service at a stupidly-expensive price).

Lots of lolita and cosplay pages on Facebook are skewed in this way. Same with Twitter pages, as well.

>> No.8056900 [DELETED] 

She keeps deleting these posts from her page, they look really suspicious

>> No.8056901

>>8056894
at least FB promotion lets you take control of your ads, which is necessary if you dont want your metric get fucked hard. In >>8056843 case, she could have let the promotion/purchase go cruise control, resulting in over-inflated numbers.

>> No.8056904
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8056904

She keeps deleting these posts from her page, it's really suspicious

>> No.8056907

>>8056894
That's a reasonable ratio of overall likes to engagement though, from my experience.

Take lapin chocolat's facebook page, for example: she has almost 6,000 likes (the majority of which appeared over the course of a couple of days), but she struggles to receive more than 20 organic likes on any post she makes. She's purchased likes for most of her photo posts as well, which is really obvious because you can actually see who likes those images and most of those people are clearly not connected to the lolita community at all. Another red flag when you suspect that someone has bought likes is an overwhelming majority of likers that are all from the same country (usually Russia, India, or in her case Vietnam).

>> No.8056912

>>8056907
How come some people have a very good ratio then? Like Volk and Beethy for example.

>> No.8056916
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8056916

Can we just take a moment to look at how hilariously vague half of these awards are

>> No.8056918

>>8056912
I don't know cosplayers, but if I had to wager a guess they probably take advantage of Facebook's "engagement opportunities", meaning they paid to have more than 15%-20% of their total followers see the content.

>> No.8056921

>>8056918
Let me say this another way. Facebook allows you to pay for increased exposure of your content, which of course leads to more follower engagement.

>> No.8056923

>>8056921
Beethy's account has been restricted for years for some reason. He made a post about it a while ago. tldr he cannot pay Facebook for engagement.

With him in particular I think it helped that Stella Chuu and Jessica Nigri promoted his page.

>> No.8056924

>>8056907
I can confirm that she for sure bought those likes, I heard her talking about it.

>> No.8056928

>>8056923
Ah, that makes sense then. Having actual popular people promo you helps tremendously.

...though he could also be lying about the restriction unless he had the screenshots to prove it.

>> No.8056929

>>8056924
Of course she did. A lot of her posts get less than 1000 likes.
Who does she think she's fooling?

>> No.8056933

>>8056928
A bit risky me saying it here but fuck it since people will know I post here, but he shared his screen in a Google hangout which I was in.

>> No.8056935

>>8056929
>less than 1000 likes
You mean less than 100 lol
It's funny how she only inflates certain posts though, so one post will have ~45 likes and the next will only have 1 or 2. She's clearly not the brightest if she was trying to cover her ass (though has she ever been good at that?)

>> No.8056937

>>8056933
Since there's really no way for you to prove it though I wouldn't get all up in arms defending him if I were you. Sounds like he's getting along just fine despite the alleged restriction though.

>> No.8056964

There is no way that fat bitch didn't buy likes. She's been doing it for months. Check out her latest pic. No ones fucking seen it. 200 likes and 540 fans? I don't fucking buy it. This girl is OBSESSED with likes. The whole I'm scared about blowing up is the fakest shit ever. This coming from a girl who always posts screenshots of how many likes she got that day.

>> No.8056965

Her lola pic didn't even do that well. Bitch bought likes. Bet if you ask her she'll cry and play the victim.

>> No.8056969

All this bitch does is lie. So sick of her shit. Most american cosplayers that she claims to be friends with hate her.

>> No.8057008

>>8056969
The ironic thing is she's trying to move back there.

>> No.8057041

>>8056964
>screenshots of how many likes she got that day
Are you...are you serious?

>> No.8057135

>>8056969
She has friends?

>> No.8057283

>>8056935
Yea I have 4K on my page and I call it a good day if I can get 100 likes on something. Reach is pretty shitty.

>> No.8057313

>>8056868
There is no way this isn't a self defence and deniability exercise.
Nobody gains 450,000 facebook likes overnight.

>> No.8057354

you guys are pathetic if you have nothing better to do then sit on 4chan and complain about a girl you don't know allegedly doing something that many other people do.

>> No.8057421

>>8057354
>Welcome to /cgl/

>> No.8057442

>>8056879
Cgl logic reigns again

>> No.8057459
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8057459

The amount of likes on your page aren't really what matters when getting likes on individual posts. Lots of people will like a page but choose to not follow it while some people religiously follow certain pages.

Content that you post matters far more greatly. I've compiled some screenshots of posts from my page as an example. It should be easy to tell simply by the stats of each post what exactly it was. Text posts tend to get no real interaction but when I post funny videos or pictures I find the amount of likes skyrocket. A link to my blog did horribly but a photo I posted if myself in lolita did really well.

Just because people aren't liking a post doesn't mean they aren't being seen by her followers. However the likes, shares, interactions, etc do great help.

(Sorry for odd sizing as I did this via my phone)

>> No.8057503

>>8057354
Oh, we got a badass here.

Badass.jpg

>> No.8057816

>>8056868

Oh shit we can't argue with this! She said she was scared there's no way she could have done it

>> No.8058710

Liz katz also went up 500k really recently. They both promote g2a, one of those sketchy cheap steam key resellers that usually gets its keys cheap from Russia. This company has regularly bid the highest amount on humble bundles to get the top contributor for advertisement.

I think it's very likely that they paid for likes for the people promoting them too in the hopes that it makes them bigger.

Can anything actually be done about this?

>> No.8058783

>>8058710
Liz Katz bought her likes a long time ago. That, getting naked on camera and having done porn got her those numbers. Easy to get fans when you just get naked.

>> No.8058844

>>8057354
Hi Vari

>> No.8058861

What if the likes are actually from random people who just liked the Lola cosplay? Look at all the shares that post has, try to add up the possible likes she got from each share.

>> No.8058879

>>8057459
does it show you who watched the post?

>> No.8058974

That fat lola photo got 3k. You don't get 450k from one bad viral pic. At the very most you'd get 5k. And the way she won't talk to anyone about the wall posts getting deleted, the fact she's lost 2k of likes already. All her likes are from Mexico, the number one country fake likes are bought from. There is so doubt in my mind that bitch bought likes. If you ask her about it she'll cry and cry. Appropriate response? I don't fucking think so. Her posts are bombing and this will just get worse and worse. I hope this drives her off facebook. One less shit cosplayer to try and beg for likes.
At least then she might actually shut the fuck up about her page. No one fucking cares Shantel. And yes that's her real name and no she hasn't legally changed it. Does that bitch ever tell the truth!?!

>> No.8058976

Just keep reporting her shit page.

>> No.8058980

What's the bet Varia is the one posting here in defence of her. She's the only one who would. Has anyone ever heard anything positive out of that bitchs mouth? Unless it's about her?

>> No.8059130

Jesus Christ how much hate does one person have. There are so much worse people in the community to dwell on Varia. You know what - you're probably one of those people.

No - this isn't Varia. This is just a casual observer. You really must be a sad pathetic person who be posting stuff like this. Why don't you get a decent life and a decent job and stop wasting your time masturbating in your mummies basement. I have a gut feeling I know who you are and I have a feeling you just be jelly ;-)

>> No.8059154

>>8059130
You're obviously a newfag though, since you can't reply to posts. You had to have been steered here because of said person. And before you get on my case, this is my first post in this thread, I just saw your post and decided to point out the obvious since you probably aren't aware of it. We can tell you're not a native.

>> No.8059546
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8059546

Call me crazy, but I am pretty sure her Lola cosplay got posted a few times on imgur and reddit. It's possibly it went viral and a bunch of people liked her page. I also think you are underestimating the power of cosplaying something EXTREMELY nostalgia with a character people are creepily obsessed with (bunny boobs, WHY?!)

I think I also saw something where the actually number of likes was less than FB is showing. I think it was her insight pics. I think FB might have made an error or something when it calculated the likes. I actually found it.

I think y'all need to chill. I don't understand why people are so vehement about people who buy likes anyway. How the fuck does it affect you if they choose to waste their money on something as pointless as FB likes? I also don't understand why people dislike Varia so much. I must be missing something, but she seems nice enough.

>> No.8059558

>>8059546
Yeah those numbers don't add up/ Seems like a glitch to me.

As for if she bought them or not, I don't care that's her business.

>> No.8059587

>>8059546
About 2 cosplays a week go viral on reddit/imgur and we just don't see that sort of growth for the people's pages. It's artificial no question, the only thing left is if she bought it or was given it.

>> No.8059589

>>8059587
Or, like the picture posted in >>8059546 it is a glitch

>> No.8059613

Hi Shantel. Enjoying our comments?
She was caught buying likes before by her friends so yes she has fucking done it again. So pathetic she has to get on here and stick up for herself since she has no real friends.

>> No.8059656

>>8059589
Yes, she is a victim once again. This time of a never before seen facebook glitch. Her ex-boyfriend is no doubt responsible.

>> No.8059696

>>8059546
Actually your post right there is the proof that she bought those likes. If it were a post that got those likes there would still be lingering affects of it days later since a post that goes viral will stay active for at least three days or so. The fact that all of her likes came in on one day are highly suspect. When people buy likes, the site that they buy from floods their page with likes within the course of about 2-12 hours and then stop. If she's losing that many likes already that means that some of the fake pages that liked her page are already being removed by Facebook at a faster rate than she's gaining new fans which would be little to none since she bought fans.

>> No.8059712

>>8059546
That doesn't look like anything going viral.

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>>8056843
Can I just say how fucking pissed I am that you made an entirely new thread for this bullshit. You couldn't have just posted in the goddamn Ausfag thread? That's why it is there. Fuck.

>> No.8059759

>>8059696
It's gone down like, 2000 likes since whenever the screenshot was taken

>> No.8059773

>>8059749
Not the OP, but I think this subject is good discussion in general because there still seem to be so few people who understand just how easy it is to rig this kind of thing.

>> No.8061598

536,315

>> No.8062105

>>8061598
Hasn't moved really either in the past day

>> No.8062653

>>8061598
535,729
>>8062105
Are you drunk? She's losing likes faster than Tony Abbott!

>> No.8062947

>>8062653
535,443

this is great to watch

>> No.8062962

>>8062947
10 minutes later and it's at 535,432
wow Varia.

>> No.8063056

>>8059546
1. Because buying likes sound desperate and hilariously egotistical.
2. Would make more sense if she wasn't selling herself as a product.
3. I only know of her thanks to a hick from highschool who used to pick on me for being a nerd.

So those are my reasons for not approving of buying likes, when narcissism is the only selling point.

>> No.8063062

>>8063056
boo hoo

>> No.8063103
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8063103

Lol this is hilarious

>> No.8063203

>>8062962
535,137

>> No.8063218

>>8056843
how can people not remember liking your page if you buy likes?
Is it some automatic thing, like facebook likes them for you?
idgi

>> No.8063240

>>8063218
I've always wondered it, too. It hasnt happened in a while but I used to have tons of companies showing up in my page feed, when I know I 100% for sure never liked their page. Musicians I had never heard of, too. This was before facebook put ads in your newsfeed.

>> No.8063379

I miss when she was a nobody and actually a lovely person to hang out and chill with.

>> No.8063411

>>8063203
535,047

>> No.8063507

534,998
this is hilarious. it's dropping faster than most people gain likes

>> No.8063518

I have a few people on my friends list who have zero interest in cosplay but have "liked" her page. I'm going to ask them about it next chance.

If it has been done against their knowledge, how does something like this happen?

>> No.8063591

I bought likes from Fiverr once about 1 year ago because I was curious to see what would happen. I had maybe 1k likes and I picked a service that said "Get 1-2k likes" and I had a gameplan of saying "Wow! Where did all you people come from? Please link me with whatever website sent you my way!" as a cover story. Well, I bought the "1k" likes and next thing you know, my page had _10K_ likes and I was HORRIFIED because there was no way my page could ever blow up like that naturally and I was so embarrassed. Got lots of wall posts in Spanish that when translated were like "what is this page??? I do not like this page" over and over again and the likes all slowly filtered away. By the time a month had passed I was back down to 1k likes again and I saud never again would I buy likes... So I can confirm with authority that that is what this coser has done.

>> No.8063619

>>8056843
So besides people's ego and some better chances of getting a guest spot at cons, what is the use of the like count for cosplayers?

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>>8063619

It's probably easier to get bigger once you're already big. People right now will see she has 500k and like it thinking she must be good.

Also, lol at the crap in her store. There's a whole bunch of shit she's selling with groot images or the text "we are groot" isn't that a lawsuit waiting to happen?

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>>8063103
Top fucking kek

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8063692

>>8063686

>> No.8063701

>>8056868
Excuse me? Varia thick skinned? Ahahahahahah
Every second post on her fb page is a cry for attention or about seeing her ex 3km away in the distance and and breaking down about it.

>> No.8063715

>>8063686
Isn't it possible to report a page for buying likes?
I'm quite sure it's not allowed on facebook since they want you to pay for reach and advertisement.

>> No.8063728

>>8063715
I'm quite sure it is actually against Facebook TOS to buy likes, but whether they actually take action against it is another story. I've heard of a few cases where legit businesses have placed complaints forward because their competitors have blatantly bought fraudulent likes to make their pages look more popular.

>> No.8063798

>>8063715
>>8063728
I doubt Facebook actually give two shits about people buying likes, seeing as it doesn't have any real effect on reach besides strangling it.

>> No.8063820

>>8063798
They remove bots. So they do care.

>> No.8063941

>>8063820
They only removed bots because they want you to pay them (facebook) to get reach. They only 'care' if it hurts their profit.

>> No.8063989

>>8063641
Yeah, but anyone with sense will see the lack of likes on any content she posts

>> No.8064056

>>8063641
>people buying a bedspread with a cosplayer on it
why do people do this? do people really buy this stuff?
i know a kakashi cosplayer who sells messanger bags and bodypillow and mugs etc etc etc with her face on them...what

>> No.8064149

>>8064056
>Do people buy this?

No.

>> No.8064443

>>8063701
Not who you're responding to, but they said isn't the most thick-skinned, not is.

>> No.8064460

Conversely, my page is going up like 10 likes a day sometimes and I have barely posted on it and can't work out why people are liking it. Yet FB limits all my posts. And then it lets people buy likes, only to then delete all the fake accounts? What.

>> No.8064476

>having a FB for your cosplay
my fucking sides

>> No.8064498

>>8064476
It stops me getting friendship requests (or at least as many as I used to) on my private FB, which is literally the only reason I made a cosplay page on FB.

>no neckbeards on my person page = bliss

>> No.8065510

534,553

>> No.8065520
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8065520

Then drop on the deck and flop like a fish!

>> No.8065699

>>8065520
Is that her on the left? She really let herself go and go and go and go and go...

>> No.8065704

>>8065699
I think she's on the right, but in her head she's on the left.

>> No.8066737

534,355

>> No.8067177

>>8064498
Riiigghhhtt anon chan. Just like every fucking one else. Kek. Excuses to be whores are always the same.

>> No.8067272

>>8065520
I don't think this is her?

>> No.8068226

>>8067272
It's not

>> No.8069291

533,961

>> No.8070648

533,312

>> No.8070654

>>8064460
I noticed this as well
My account jumped from 930 to 1200 in a week (only 2 not noteworthy posts), a friend had a similar spike and addressed it on their page.

wtf facebook

Are they pulling a reverse instagram

>> No.8070685

>>8070654
Same is happening to me and a ton of my friends.
I had a few big posts but I have more than doubled in likes in about two weeks (I started around 6k and now I'm over 13k)
One of my friends who's a photographer had a big surge and when he went through his likes there were a ton of fake accounts and he deleted about 300 of them (he's never bought likes either).
Another of my cosplay friends NEVER posts and she jumped a ton and doesn't understand why.

This is fishy as hell and I don't like it at all.

>> No.8070694

>>8070685
Yirico?

>> No.8075817

532,192

>> No.8075986

>>8070654
>>8070685
I noticed something similar, I didn't go up like thousands, but I did go up a 100 or so. It seemed to be because my page was suggested to people...I haven't really been posting much on my page at all, so was confused.