Tiers of "fat" in Lolita?

[Anonymous No.8013426]

So I've noticed in the last couple of Lolita threads that there's been discussion about whether it makes a difference on what "type" of fatty-chan you are. Some seagulls say it does and others say fat is as fat does no matter how much. Lets settle this debate once and for all, so gulls what's your opinion on this? Are their "tiers of fatness" that can make or break how a fatty looks in Lolita? Do fatty-chans only look good in Lolita if they're short? What about tall fatties? Do low end "chubby" fatties such as size twelve to fourteens look better and can even be cute than the ones on the ham-planet two hundred pound+ spectrum? Or do they all look equally awful and anyone that hits plus-size should give up on Lolita until they can lose some weight? What about those low-end girls that can actually fit some brand but only fully-shirred ones, does that make a difference?

Let's hash out this fatty-chan issue once and for all~

[Anonymous No.8013442]

All fatties a shit tbh

[Anonymous No.8013448]

5'5, 140 here. Am I fatty atm?
Dont worry, I'm losing weight now.

[Anonymous No.8013449]

>tiers of fat
Thought this meant layers of fat rolls

[Anonymous No.8013455]

>>8013449
top kek

[Anonymous No.8013458]

>>8013448
It's all about how you cary thr weight. Im 5'5 148 lbs but I also have a 26 inch waist. Honestly you're probably not what most rational people would consider "fat". But there is a fitness board where you can discuss and debate all that.

[Anonymous No.8013461]

>>8013426
167 cm, 73 kg, 97 bust, 74 waist.
I'm definitely a plus size in Lolita. Deep down my heart I'm a brandwhore though; I usually wear shirred brand (though no fully shirred stuff because that looks ugly as fuck). IW, Meta and some Baby stuff is very forgiving with sizing. Thankfully I'm more hourglass-shaped so at least I have a waist and don't look like a rectangle box of cereals like many plus size people (or OP's pic) do.

I know I need to lose weigh but I am just way too lazy to work out so I honestly don't give a fuck if people call me a fatty-chan; there's some truth in it. But I have yet to be posted to cgl with any kind of insult (not that I am anywhere near as popular enough to get posted here though).

I considered starting a diet and exercise more in 2015 but only because my inner brandwhore wants me to be able to wear more brand. I'm okay with my weight and just annoyed with my boobs so I am mainly losing weight to achieve smaller boobs...

[Anonymous No.8013464]

Fatness is only tolerable if they can keep the silhouette. If your gut protrudes farther than a petticoat or two (or three) can manage, it's not worth it to be in the fashion yet.

[Anonymous No.8013466]

>>8013464
I second this. If you weigh more than the average Jane it's so important to make sure you wear more petticoats than your average lolita too!

[Anonymous No.8013471]

>>8013466
But doesn't their fatness already give them more then enough poof?

[Anonymous No.8013473]

5'6", 163 lb, 37 in. bust and 29 in. waist
Most of the weight is in my hips, butt, and thighs, but I'm probably borderline fatty for this fashion. I fit comfortably into partially shirred Baby. Honestly I find that my shoulder and bust measurements are more of a problem than my waist, since it still falls into the larger end of brand sizes often enough, but forget about any OPs and many JSKs and blouses for me. I don't really have any plans for losing the weight though because it's hard to feel like something's off when I look so good in normal clothes. I guess I'll probably end up naturally shedding a few pounds once the holidays are over and I'm not eating Christmas feasts every other day.

[Anonymous No.8013476]

>>8013461
I never got the whole "fully shirred stuff looks ugly" I mean sure if you're massive and are trying to fit your fat ass into the dress and are busting at the seams yeah, but other than that scenario I really don't find any difference????

Besides Lolita was always concentrated more on the lower, print part of a dress where all the poof flows through, not the bodice part.

[Anonymous No.8013489]

>>8013476
>I never got the whole "fully shirred stuff looks ugly" I mean sure if you're massive and are trying to fit your fat ass into the dress and are busting at the seams yeah, but other than that scenario I really don't find any difference????
It is just a personal preference. I don't like how fully shirred items look on me; on top of that I'm afraid to look fat in an "obvious, too fat for normal burando"-way. As long as I can fit half-shirred brand I won't wear fully shirred pieces.

>Besides Lolita was always concentrated more on the lower, print part of a dress where all the poof flows through, not the bodice part.
I wear mostly Classic and don't own prints. And as said, since it is a personal preference of mine I'm more paranoid about shirring looking ugly or being considered as an obvious fatty.

[Anonymous No.8013492]

>>8013426
I do think their are tiers of fatties yes. Lolita in general is a fashion that very much emphasizes shortness and petiteness so while the short fatties might be able to get away with wearing some stuff the taller ones should really just forget about it, as they have both their weight AND height against them, at least the short fatties still have their height in their favor.

Of course there comes a point where even a short fatty-chan gets so fat that it doesn't even matter anymore cause she can't even any Brand anyways and ends up looking like a oompa-loompa, but I find that's more of the very extreme, morbidly obese case and not the norm for most fatties on the short side.

[Anonymous No.8013493]

>>8013489
>Fellow Classic Master Race detected

How does it feel to be superior to those impure age players my comrade?

[Anonymous No.8013515]

>>8013492
What about tall fatties that are less fat then short fatties?

[Anonymous No.8013528]

>>8013426
Wear what ever fits your body.

Nice thing about lolita is that it covers everything, so even extreme fatties can get stuff that's tailored to their particular body shape.

[Anonymous No.8013532]

>>8013528
>wear what ever fits your body
are you implying that lolita fits landwhales?

[Anonymous No.8013535]

I think shortish girls with a small frame who are just a bit more squishy than usual can look fine and may even look extra cute. Once you're so big you no longer have a defined waistline, you have a problem.
Tall fat girls probably have it the worst with things not fitting vertically AND horizontally and tall fat girls in sweet unfortunately tend to look like enormous babies. It's not a nice thing to say but IMO if you're both tall and fat you might still pull off an elegant historical look in classic or aristocrat but you're never going to look 'cute'. That one tall apple-shaped girl who dresses fairy kei is probably the best example of a body type clashing horribly with a chosen aesthetic. I feel really bad for her because she can't help it, but there's just no way she's ever going to look good in her favourite style.

>>8013471
Nope.

[Anonymous No.8013537]

>>8013466
This is so true.
Im Five feet,146 pounds and I wear at least 2 petticoats even in casual outfits to get the right silhouette.

[Anonymous No.8013540]

>>8013532
I've seen some pretty large and square shaped women who pulled off half-way decent Lolita.

They certainly looked better in it then they would without clothes.

[Anonymous No.8013552]

>>8013473
Are you me?? I've been eating healthier now and walk every day so I'm hoping to slim a little but I don't think I'll ever have legs that will fit cute tights/otks very well

[Anonymous No.8013645]

>>8013552
Endurance cardio can help slim your legs. You'll feel ridiculous going crazy fast on a stationary bike on a low resistance level, but it can help.

[Anonymous No.8013688]

is size 3 fat? im a size 3 but i wouldnt say im skinny lol
would i be a fatty chan or could i wear lolita and be okay?

[Anonymous No.8013695]

>>8013688

[Anonymous No.8013715]

>>8013515
I'm tall (5'8") and chubby, meaning I fit into 1/3 or 1/2 shirred pieces, and I think as long as you don't overfill the piece and make sure you have a waist it can look nice. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be working to get healthy.

[Anonymous No.8013717]

>how i feel trying to squeeze into unshirred pieces

i'm a quintessential fatty chan, just fat enough to be able to wear lolita without it looking too weird but i can't fit into certain dresses without shirring. also no cap sleeves. but atleast i'm willing to admit i rather than looked like an overstuffed sausage.

[Anonymous No.8013736]

>>8013715
I think this (fitting comfortably into partially shirred burando) is the upper size limit to looking good in Lolita. Once past this, things start to look weird and distorted. Even if things are made to size or come in 2-8xl, that doesn't mean they look acceptable. You can't simply size a pattern up and expect it to look the same as on a slim or normal weight person, it just doesn't.
It's about the aesthetic too and I don't think obese or upper level overweight people fit the aesthetic no matter what they wear or how it fits. I don't like full shirring at all.

[Anonymous No.8013762]

5'5 126 lbs. 86/70/88 BWH
Am I plus sized?

[Anonymous No.8013767]

>>8013762
I'm 5'6 120 93/70/93
Am I plus sized or just sexier than you?

[Anonymous No.8013768]

>>8013762
No, but there will be some unshirred lolita pieces you'll be too large for. Read measurements, subtract 2-4cm for wearing ease, that's the size you should be to fit. Double check Lolibrary for measurements, read reviews if it's not a brand new item to see if company measurements are accurate.

[Anonymous No.8013769]

>"tiers of fatness"

Big
Healthy
Husky
Fluffy
DAAAAAMN
Aw hell nah!

[Anonymous No.8013772]

>>8013762
I don't understand why anyone who weighs under 130 thinks they're plus sized

[Anonymous No.8013776]

>>8013772
For lolita it has more to do with measurements than weight.

[Anonymous No.8013777]

>>8013769
I get it a Gabriel Iglesias ref but how would you rank those levels. I remember aw hell no was when you'd mash the elevator buttons when you saw them coming level. But I can't remember the rest

[Anonymous No.8013778]

>>8013767
>5'6"
>120lbs
>plus sized
......I.....what?

[Anonymous No.8013780]

This reminds me of that fattychan lolita who posted in the insecurities thread but looked good.

To me there's a difference between overweight girls who know how to dress themselves and obesechans who squeeze into brand or replicas.

[ValleLator !nCGvC6eOuQ No.8013781]

>>8013776
And Asian sizes.

I have to buy my shirts in larges usually.

I'm 5'5"

And even then they're fitted differently so they don't always fit right.

>tfw I should be able to brolita easily

[Anonymous No.8013784]

>>8013768
Alright thanks. I'm still losing weight and my goal is around 110 lbs now. For the most part I fit into normal BTSSB stuff.
>>8013767
hopefully sexier?
>>8013772
pretty much what >>8013776 said

[Anonymous No.8013785]

>>8013778
Lol, I was just joking because that anon is obviously not plus sized.
But those are my measurements but I know I'm not plus sized.

[Anonymous No.8013792]

>>8013552
Anon we might be the same person! I've generally been eating healthier and that's what got me down to 160~lbs. At one point I was at 154 lbs but I was training like a beast three times a week in a boot camp program, but I had to stop because their strict scheduling no longer worked for me once I started college and had classes at all sorts of times in the day and a new schedule every semester. If there was a boot camp around here that could accommodate an irregular and changing schedule I'd so go back to it.

But in the meantime, when I eat healthy and maintain portion control, my body stays at around 160 lbs. I might be a fatty for this fashion but honestly I don't feel like one, and medically I'm at no risks for anything so I try not to worry. Though I should at least start walking every day. Actually, I think I'll go do that now. The weather is nice and there's no reason not to.

[Anonymous No.8013793]

>>8013458
I agree with this.
5'6 140lbs reporting in

[Anonymous No.8013797]

I'm 170 (5'7) and have muscle from ballet so my weight needs to stay at the lower border of normal on a height/weight chart to keep my waist measurement in line with IW and JetJ size. I think anyone 5'4 or taller should just throw out the scale and rely on measurements and fit. And over 5'6, pay attention to length as well. Yes, I know that advice is not the most useful for fatties but it may be inspiring to not get fat or for fatties to get fit.

[Anonymous No.8013799]

>>8013792
You can actually look up the routines that real boot camps do and build your own. It takes roughly an 45min to an hour of intense exercise and the main, steadfast rule is that there are NO breaks and no stopping. Keep a steady pace that allows you to finish, but barely.

[Anonymous No.8013823]

>>8013797
This is excellent advice, especially on the issue of height.

A related top tip would be to try and get bodice measurements of dresses before buying them. If you're tall, busty, have a large ribcage, or just have a long torso, you're going to want dresses with longer bodices.

I have, in the past, tried on AP JSKs only to find that the waist of the dress sits on my ribcage, a good few inches above my natural waist. I find that JetJ + Haenuli are the best for my body; AP and, weirdly, bodyline, are absolute demons for having short bodices

[Anonymous No.8013834]

>>8013823
I buy a lot of skirts for this reason, and JSK that I can convert the straps to halter style or move the strap buttons down. Mfw no burando Hime OP will fit because of long waist and I'll never wear a shitty replica. I'm going to get one custom-made in 2015 from unprinted fabric with lots of trim and ruffles!

[Anonymous No.8013838]

>>8013834
UGH yes this is a feel I also feel with hime style OPs. My solution has been to buy ornate as fuck blouses and high waisted skirts to emulate the look as best I can.

[Anonymous No.8013841]

I think after a certain size it just doesn't look good. Like super obese won't look good.
I think this pic is the biggest you can go and still have it look good. And this is assuming you're actually wearing an outfit that looks good on you and not ill fitting.

But girls with apple shaped bodies, no matter the size, unless they wear some shape wear or something to slim down the waist, I think they'll always look bad in lolita.

[Anonymous No.8013845]

>>8013458
5'11"
145lbs
30 inch waist
>don't know how i feel man

[Anonymous No.8013852]

>>8013845
I am jelly of your height and weight combo.

[Anonymous No.8013854]

>>8013772
Well if you're 125lbs and are under 5ft then you probably would be plus size.

[Anonymous No.8013855]

>>8013841
For me this is well past where it still looks good. The distortions are evident and the basic daintiness and graceful lines are already lost.

[Anonymous No.8013858]

>>8013841
I'm smaller than the girl pictured, I'm a size L and fit fine into brand. yet some people still act like i'm so huge i need a crane to get me out of the house on here.

i don't think /cgl/ or 4chan in general is a good place to try gauge tiers of "fat" because everyone over a size M is considered morbidly obese cause most the girls on here are salt cunt bags.

[Anonymous No.8013862]

>>8013855
I disagree. I think that instead of dainty, she looks cute. I definitely prefer to see larger girls in sweet than classic.

[Anonymous No.8013863]

>>8013845
Clearly you are not heavy but the numbers are against you in general plus height. Go custom indie, your proportions should look fine!

[Anonymous No.8013866]

>>8013852
don't be jealous of my rectangle body though anon

[Anonymous No.8013867]

>>8013862
she looks like a stuffed marshmallow, and has a horrific attitude to boot

[Anonymous No.8013870]

>>8013862
This is all subjective so you are welcome to your opinion.
I don't think anything about fat is cute, myself.
I do not think this person pictured looks good in Lolita at all, any style.

[Anonymous No.8013873]

>>8013866
I'm not, don't worry, anon. I've been blessed with butt, boobs and waist, but I have the stubbiest little legs and the longest torso. Everyone has bits of them they don't like.

What this means tho is that I've become a master of illusions: I can make my legs look longer, my natural waist look higher. You can do the same, although I'm afraid I can't offer advice specific to your proportions. The great thing about your height is that this will make your job a tad easier.

[Anonymous No.8013875]

Another one that is just too big to even wear the style

[Anonymous No.8013878]

>>8013875
ehh if she wore tights and had a bigger poof it'd be a lot better, also I'm beginning to believe this is an actual vendetta against her since she does get posted an excessive amount
>although I do hate her face, she's not /that/ bad

[Anonymous No.8013879]

>>8013875
I don't agree she's too big to wear the style at all, but yes, this outfit needs some changes.

The bodice is too short and too small for her bust. Socks are a no-no if you have larger legs as well. I think she's accessorised fine, her hair and face look neat, so if she worked more on finding dresses to fit her figure, she'd be more than capable.

[Anonymous No.8013884]

>>8013875
Agreed. Even in skirt/blouse her proportions...just no.
Lolita is not suited for everyone, every body shape. Yes you can wear what you like. No, not everyone will think it looks good. Or even ok.

I'm sorry to be blunt but I don't think fat people look good in Lolita.

[Anonymous No.8013912]

>>8013875
>those fucking cat eye glasses
why do fatties love them so much?

[Anonymous No.8013915]

>5"1
>160
>91/76/121

i'm a bonafied plus size lolita but i can say my proportions are a huge bonus, all my weight is below my waist in my butt and thighs.which means i can get into burando without many issues but tights and otks are a no go.

pic related
sorry for shitty blurry photos

[Anonymous No.8013922]

>>8013915
wow I would not say that you had those measurements, you've dressed to your figure and you have the right poof, and look cute despite blur

[Anonymous No.8013929]

>>8013915
It's hard to tell with a blurry photo and hugely oversized jacket, cardigan, whatever that droopy pink outer thing is covering up so much...

[Anonymous No.8013936]

>>8013461
Good for you! Whatever motivates you.
Boobs are mostly made of fat, especially in overweight people. If you lose fat, you'll drop sizes in your bust. There are legit skinny large busted gals out there but 8/10 Lolitas I see crying about 'muh bust' are just fat all over.

[Anonymous No.8013941]

>>8013461
I'm 1,67 too, with 96 bust and 74 waist, but i'm 56kg, What the fuck?

[Anonymous No.8013943]

What is the ideal measurements in lolita? Is it 86, 66?
However at those measurements some Moitie and old school would still be too small.

[Anonymous No.8013944]

>>8013936
Boob fat at a healthy weight is a different kind of fat than regular fat stores and that fat has a terminal growth point, but when girls get fat, shitty fat stores get piled on top of it making them grow and get disgusting.

[Anonymous No.8013957]

>>8013944
All the better reason to get and stay slim asap. Skin stretches and the older a person is when they lose excess weight, the less elastic their skin will be and more they are going to sag. Boobs too.

[Anonymous No.8014005]

>>8013941
Depends on how you distribute fat and on how much muscle you have, among other things. I'm 1,67 too, 4 kgs heavier and 90-74.

[Anonymous No.8014006]

>>8013941
Same as you with but with 70 cm waist, and I'm 67 kg

[Anonymous No.8014046]

>>8013695
>>8013688
Not even that anon but I'm size 3 and I feel like a fatty-chan.......

It could be my ED talking though

[Anonymous No.8014059]

>>8013912
Because it reminds them of a time in history where being "thick" was considered sexier than being skinny. Of course nobody ever mentions that those pinup models still had <25" waists or that Marilyn Monroe was like 36/23/36 and not whatever size modern fatties like to tell themselves she was.

[Anonymous No.8014066]

>>8013943
I wouldn't say there is a single ideal. I'm 85/65 and some stuff is too small, some fits perfectly and some hangs off me like a sack. It depends on the brand and the time period it was made in. A smallish (but not nonexistent) bust/waist difference is definitely a plus, though.

[Anonymous No.8014067]

>>8013772
Plus size isnt all about the fat. There are people with different body shapes. I think that plus size itself is a type of body. Like those plus sized (not fat) models. they dont have a trace of saggyness on their bodies, but they are not slim as to fit in the smaller sizes. Weight does have a part on it, as fat and how your body molds it. But its more on the measurements.

[Anonymous No.8014074]

5'6"
135 lbs
82-71-86
am i plus size?

[Anonymous No.8014075]

>>8013878
Do you hate her face because it reminds you of a piglet? That's why I do.

[Anonymous No.8014079]

>>8013875
The shirring straining against her tit flab makes me want to throw up. I imagine she smells like bacon grease and her bitchy face is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.8014082]

>>8014075
honestly it reminds me of mrs piggy and in general I try not to be mean about people's facial aspects because they can't do much about them but with different glasses and a more flattering haircut she would look a lot better

[Anonymous No.8014084]

>>8014075
More like a wolverine, I think.

[Anonymous No.8014085]

>>8014074
Do you wear plus size clothing? No. You're not plus size in the slightest.

Are you fat by cgl standards? Maybe. But nobody can tell from measurements, and going by those measurements you can probably fit into some non-shirred brand fine.

Let it go girl. You're not in the special snowflake fatty chan club.

[Anonymous No.8014089]

>>8013875
Her boobs seem to start at her waist? Is there a waist and the dress waist is just pulled high? She looks misshapen.

[Anonymous No.8014091]

im 5'2'' weigh 100 pounds
my measurements are 38-24-38
i know this isnt specifically lolita, but can i pull off wearing jfashion? for example the skirts and ect?
my legs arent that skinny

[Anonymous No.8014094]

>>8014067
All this. Plus size models get a lot of flack for not looking plus size even though they still have measurements that put them in size 12/14+. The advantage is they're taller, better proportioned and have lower weight distribution so they don't have a fat face. This is basically my case at 5' 9", 180 lbs and 30in/76cm waist. Some burando works, some doesn't, but it actually helps sway me from some impulse buys. It's only truly noticeable in my legs, but skirts take care of that and I never wear socks with coords. Tights are my bff.

[Anonymous No.8014099]

>>8014085
um
is being a fatty like an exclusive club now? cos i dont really want to be part of it. i've never really bought brand so i just wanted to know if i should stick to shirred or lose weight

chill

[Anonymous No.8014101]

>>8014099
look up the measurements. Try it. If it doesn't fit, either sell or lose weight. It's not that fucking difficult.

[Anonymous No.8014103]

>>8014091
You are 100lbs. You are not plus size.
please leave and put away the fishing pole, you'll get no compliments here.

[Anonymous No.8014112]

>>8014094
>that blonde
Unf

[Anonymous No.8014116]

>>8014082
Miss Piggy looks cuter, I think she looks more like Shrek. She seems to think she is a beauty because she won't stop posting herself.

[Anonymous No.8014119]

>>8014116
uncanny

[Anonymous No.8014121]

>>8014094
As a uk8 with 14/16 boobs i can attest to this, extremely top heavy but i can fit into skirts or shirred jsks so nyeagh. And I weigh 182lbs. Those bloody smock dresses thou :/

[Anonymous No.8014124]

>>8014121
That's an 8 in jeans btw. Boyhips and a flatty bum but BOOBS honestly I think lolita balances me out.

[Anonymous No.8014125]

>>8014121
>uk 8
>182lbs
typo?

[Anonymous No.8014133]

>>8014094
>180lbs
>mfw i weigh less and am taller but still plus sized

[Anonymous No.8014142]

>>8014099
>is being a fatty like an exclusive club now?
Some people treat it that way. There's some comic that shows a chubby, a little over plus size, facing a skinny woman and fat woman in two different panels both shouting "How dare you wear OUR clothes?!" or something like that. Can't find it. I hate a lot of "body acceptance" and "fat shaming" shit because they tend to just bash skinny women which kind of goes against "all bodies are beautiful."

[Anonymous No.8014148]

>>8014142
>they tend to just bash skinny women which kind of goes against "all bodies are beautiful."
if they see people who are able to maintain a healthy weight through a healthy diet and exercise it ruins their notion that there's nothing they can do about being the size of a small whale. This results in a lot of anger directed towards people with restraint.

[Anonymous No.8014149]

>>8014099
You're not plus size at 130 unless you're a midget, or are unfortunately deformed where all of your body fat accumulated to your belly--ALL of it.

Maybe if you did some minimum research you wouldn't have to put yourself in a position to get so assblasted. You could fit in dresses with no shirring for fuck's sake.

[Anonymous No.8014154]

>>8014148
I have a problem with people who can't understand that fatties do sometimes try very hard to have restraint and keep a healthy lifestyle. But, that's a lesson I think your type of person will learn with age as the weight gets put on easier and losing it becomes harder for a myriad of reasons other than being a couch potato and stuffing face with cake. You'll get yours, and then maybe that empathy will come to you.

>assuming you're talking about fatties who keep to their own business and don't bash/complain

[Anonymous No.8014156]

>>8014149
I'm 5'4, around 135lbs and I look fat as fuck with a thick waist, a gut and huge hips/thighs because my body type is just garbage and I accumulate fat in stupid places.
Please sit down

[Anonymous No.8014164]

How big was the largest fatty you've ever seen look cute. I'm fat, losing weight mind you, and I'm curious how small I need to get before people won't bash me

[Anonymous No.8014166]

>>8014156
>"I think I look fat"
Doesn't make you plus sized. Here, let me grab you a chair so you can sit your ass down.

[Anonymous No.8014167]

>>8014154
I'm already at the point where it is difficult to maintain my weight, but I put in the effort to maintain it.

Its very rare for there to be times when a healthy diet and exercise don't work. The conditions that promote weight gain despite this are rare. And the solution is to eat less and exercise more. Maybe you end up eating less and exercising more than others you know but you have to adjust for your metabolism.

Sincerely, a thin girl with a metabolic condition that forces her to eat many less calories than a normal woman in order to maintain her low weight.

[Anonymous No.8014172]

>>8014154
if you're trying and its not working, you need to try harder. its not easy but its as simple as that.

[Anonymous No.8014177]

>>8014172
how much weight have you lost? what was your highest weight? what is your weight now?
if you think it it's just a matter of try harder, you must know how hard it is then?
Some people do try hard. It doesn't mean it disappears over night.

[Anonymous No.8014184]

>>8014164
Under 200 pounds depending on your proportions is generally where you need to be to not get bashed into hard. 40 inches or less bust and 35 inches or less waist is what you're really aiming for.

[Anonymous No.8014187]

>>8014164
Fit into partially shirred brand without it being tight across the bust and waist. Wears knee socks or otk and legs look nice, not dimpled or big. Arms fit OP sleeves, not stretched to the max That's my definition.

[Anonymous No.8014188]

[Anonymous No.8014191]

Best diet I ever did was Dukan. I'm not going to go over all the deets here but it's basically Atkins that won't kill you. It's hard to pull off because it requires a lot of control over eating the right stuff at the right time. I only worked for me because I did it with my mom and we helped each other out but I lost 30 pounds and have kept most of it off. For people who don't think diet and exercise work for them give it a try. There's a million great recipes to use that are all protein (and a lot of shitty ones)

[Anonymous No.8014192]

>>8014184
I'd say that's probably pushing the upper limit, more like 36-8 bust, 30 waist.

[Anonymous No.8014194]

>>8014192
>>8014184 here, I agree, but those are the bare minimums I've seen for girls to even get any defense of "well, she's not *that* bad" in threads.

[Anonymous No.8014196]

>>8014184
She's fat, her knees are as wide as her face!

[Anonymous No.8014202]

>>8014187
This. People like to claim that anone can look good in anything. (see that cosplay comic that's like EVERYONE CAN COSPLAY AND LOOK AMAZING DOING IT) and fail to mention the "if you put effort into it" part. With careful coordination, the right bra and bodyshapers anyone can look good

>>8014188
Until about tier 3

[Anonymous No.8014203]

>>8014194
True, so I guess those would be the first goals to shoot for but still, that's not very flattering to just get 'she's not that bad' haha!

[Anonymous No.8014224]

>>8014164
Fat isn't cute so lose enough to fit into average lolita clothes. No sense in spending hundreds to thousands of dollars until you get to a point where people aren't just going to look at you and say 'fat...next'.

[Anonymous No.8014279]

>>8014177
>It doesn't mean it disappears over night.
I never said it did. I just said if you weren't losing weight from week to week that you're doing something wrong. Weight loss isn't easy but it is possible. Sorry to ruin your delusions.

[Anonymous No.8014301]

>>8014224
Thats kind of why I'm losing weight instead of getting custom sized taobao. I'm too embarrassed by my measurements to give them to a SS. I can't even fit into shirred Bodyline

[Anonymous No.8014307]

>>8014167
>maintain
From a fattie to a thinnie Minnie: it's easy as shit to maintain. Losing over a hundred pounds when you've grown half your life with the weight and having to learn and educate yourself on what to do to lose it is very difficult. If losing weight were as easy as "TRY HARDER FATASS" then a lot more people would be thin and there would be no such thing as dieticians, bariatric surgeons, emotional counsellors, or physical therapists who specialize in helping big folks. I think you're minimizing the problem because you feel you've been through something that you feel you've "conquered" and can't see why others struggle. And well, all I've got to say to that is get over yourself.

Sincerely a fat person who eats 1100 calories a day and whose weight won't budge if I'm depressed and don't exercise for at least an hour a day.

[Anonymous No.8014362]

Holy fuck, I should link this thread on /fit/. You people really have your nutritional facts all screwed up.

>that feel when I lost 55 pounds in the last 6 months because I stopped lying to myself about being a landwhale, counted calories with a food scale, and actually moved my fat ass.

Being a former fat person has taught me that the only reason you should still be fat is ignorance.

[Anonymous No.8014372]

>>8014301
I'm glad you are losing weight, keep at it. Read the /fit/sticky and if you can, get advice from your doctor. I wish you the best.

[Anonymous No.8014374]

i'm 173 and 65kg
34.5" 26" 37"
how do i sound????
i always feel fat in things and hate my thighs, but i can fit into most stuff i think

[Anonymous No.8014380]

>>8014362
I'm surprised the collective fattie population on cgl hasn't invaded the fit board with a lolita weight loss thread and ongoing kawaii healthy recipe thread, honestly.

[Anonymous No.8014405]

>>8014362
/fit/ doesn't know everything. They're people pulling info from the net and making generalizations. They're not my doctor or my therapist.

Know how I lost weight? Hard work, and yes, sometimes failure. Fact is you are very likely to gain that weight back sometime in your life for reasons and I'm sure you wouldn't appreciate it if a stranger chalked up your struggle to being "ignorant."

[Anonymous No.8014424]

>>8014307
Land whale detected

[Anonymous No.8014426]

>>8014301
Good luck remember to read the sticky

[Anonymous No.8014429]

>>8014424
Actually I've lost 90 pounds and I bet I look better than you.
>notevenmad.jpg

[Anonymous No.8014431]

>>8014429
Kek I'm a dude trying to go up in weight

You Still mad though bish

[Anonymous No.8014435]

>>8014380
/fit/ are assholes and expect you to know everything even if you just have a clarification question about the sticky that you've already looked through.

We used to have fit fridays on cgl but they got rid of them because too many people going NOT COSPLAY OR LOLITA RELATED GO CHOKE ON AN CHOCOLATE COVERED DICK FATTIE.

[Anonymous No.8014456]

>>8014164

[Anonymous No.8014458]

>>8014456
Still too big

[Anonymous No.8014474]

>>8014456
Fuck I don't think I would discredit her for fatness that much considering she's cute and has a cuter backdrop than 80% of the casual home photos I see.

[Anonymous No.8014487]

>>8014431
>btw im a dude :3
pls b memedon
M E M E D O N
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M
E
D
O
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[Anonymous No.8014501]

>>8014456
She looks like an actual doll and looks great. Her weight adds to her appeal in looking childish and innocent.

[Anonymous No.8014502]

>>8014307
You can literally sit on the couch all day and lose weight. The solution is easy, even without advanced education. Use simple math to calculate the calories you eat now. Decrease that number until you begin to lose weight. Continue until desired weight met.

Weight loss is not as complicated as people make it out to be.

It's much harder to maintain than to lose. Statistically, people succeed at weight loss but slip back into their old habits and re-gain the weight. This is a documented phenomenon. Don't pretend to know what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.8014505]

>>8014487
a dude who loves cute kitty faces and defending fatties. if you've lost weight, why so dedicated to denying that its possible? your butthole is mighty sandy.

[Anonymous No.8014506]

>>8014502
>starve yourself until you lose weight
sounds healthy as fuck

[Anonymous No.8014509]

>>8014505
you seem confused
>anonymous
isn't a username my friend, you are talking to someone else

[Anonymous No.8014510]

>>8014487
U wut m8??

[Anonymous No.8014511]

>>8014502
Yup pretty much this just eat foods that are more filling you should be fine.

[Anonymous No.8014512]

>>8014506
If you sit on the couch eat fruits and veggies that are 500 calories less than you need to maintain then you'll lose a couple lbs a week. Get myfitnesspal.

[Anonymous No.8014528]

>>8014502
>you can lose weight by sitting
Gee, losing weight in the most unhealthy way possible and probably not losing much fat. Glad I took weight loss advice from you and not my professionals...lol wait, no I'm not.
>>8014505
>so mad you confused yourself
Kek

[Anonymous No.8014542]

>>8014528
So you are a mad fatty???

[Anonymous No.8014560]

>>8014542
I told you Tyrone, no.

[Anonymous No.8014577]

>>8014560
Bitch pics or I don't believe

[Anonymous No.8014579]

>>8013841
She actually looks adorable, HNNNNNNNG <3 See this is a perfect example of what I mean that height really makes a difference as to whether someone could pull off "fat" or not. If she'd be any taller, unfortunately she wouldn't be kawaii anymore.

[Anonymous No.8014584]

I've been lurking here for a while and I have a question that's kinda related. Is Lolita doable with a 40 inch bust but a 26 to 28 inch waist(no corset)? I also have 44 inch hips. I don't see girls with my figure doing Lolita, and I don't know if it is worth the effort. I feel like I will come out looking goofy and spending lots of time and money modding clothes. I understand that people can dress how they want, but I know that universal aesthetics still exist to some degree. I'd just like to look cute.

[Anonymous No.8014585]

>>8013915
This one too is cute as fuck, short fatty-chans represent~

[Anonymous No.8014588]

>>8014456
Yes, she's still too big, jacket wont even close and the sleeves are too tight.
Yes backdrop is cute but still fat.
Yes looks like a doll. A fat one.
Sorry, fat is fat.
It's a decent coord aside from jacket being too small and obv. no shoes, it's a good photo, a nice scene.
But fat is fat and in a thread about fatties, not gonna excuse or sugar-coat it because other reasons.
I don't like fat girls in Lolita, period. My opinion.

[Anonymous No.8014591]

>>8014116
I think you're being more than a little too harsh on her vendetta-fag, this is generally how fat Hispanic Women's faces look, her look is very typical for her race its not some god-awful, special, misshapen thing nor does it even look particularly fat.

[Anonymous No.8014594]

>>8014584
Check the max bust and waist measurement in garments you'd like to wear. Subtract 2-4cm for wearing ease and make sure they zip so you can get them on. Why is this so hard to figure out?

[Anonymous No.8014596]

>>8014588
You just b jelly cause she probably looks cuter than you whitey-chan~

>tfw, jealous white-girl detected.

Chubby Asian girls are always the cutest.

[Anonymous No.8014597]

>>8014588
Sorry you weren't born superior kawaii azn race anon and this is how you have to justify it.

[Anonymous No.8014606]

>>8014594
I am not asking about sizing. I am asking about whether or not it would look fine on me because I haven't people with my body type.

Also, I should add that I am rather tall. 5'8 or 173 cm.

[Anonymous No.8014610]

I never understand the point of all the fatty hate in threads like these. If the fatties wear sweatpants and tshirts, they'll get laughed at for looking slovenly. If they wear a fashion, they'll get laughed at for trying to wear what they enjoy. At that point, why the hell not wear what they want and tell sandy cunted bitches to fuck off?

[Anonymous No.8014612]

>>8014610
>fatties
>people

Choose one

[Anonymous No.8014614]

>>8014610
Or they could lose weight and look good.

[Anonymous No.8014615]

>>8014596
>>8014597
Sorry, I'm gothic style, I don't want to be kawaii so pretty much everyone is more kawaii than I am!
Sorry, I'm not jealous or wanting to be another race, I don't care about her race.
Fat ain't cute.

[Anonymous No.8014618]

>>8014610
People just hate fatty-chans in general and just want them to stay in their homes where they can never be seen in public and offend their precious eyes. Why do you think everyone was all up in arms about replicas in the first place? I sincerely doubt it was just about art-theifving poor-fags.

[Anonymous No.8014619]

>>8014612
>>8014614
And since when has telling fatties to lose weight worked? The hatred of them trying to dress up makes no sense. You can't tell me you'd rather see someone with their stomach tucked into their jeans rather than at least making an attempt to be put together.

[Anonymous No.8014620]

>>8014614
Kek this

[Anonymous No.8014624]

>>8014606
How it looks on you depends on how it fits and which styles you choose which is why you start with sizing and go from there. At your measurements and height, not everything will fit or be long enough so you have to sort through by size and length then take into consideration anything like a long waist, big boobs, etc, then you might have a better idea looking at the actual things that fit you. I think some style or other of Lolita can pretty much look good on anyone but fatty-chans if it fits correctly and is styled well. Check EGL for curvy, hourglass, search your measurements, ask who has similar measurements and wears it.

[Anonymous No.8014627]

>>8014615
>I-I-I-Its not as if I'm jealous or anything~
>l-l-l-l-look how much I don't care

Keep trying anon, you're on cgl where everyone worships azns and wants to be like them, I mean why else would you even obsess over J-fashions anyways why not just be into normalfag or non-azn fashion? Denial isn't just a river in Egypt anon-chan and it doesn't look good on you.

[Anonymous No.8014628]

>>8014089
Is that dress supposed to be high waisted? Because then that might explain...?

either way, looks awful.

[Anonymous No.8014629]

>>8014164
I'm 42 inch bust, 34 inch waist, 5'1" and 155 pounds. I've never been bashed online anywhere for being a fatty even though I clearly am. A lot depends on how you dress, photograph, and how you carry your weight.

[Anonymous No.8014630]

>>8014615
The great thing about fatties is that weight comes off, but being a sandy bitch is a little more permanent.

[Anonymous No.8014632]

>>8014620
I can't tell if her bikini is ugly or if she has weird muscles.

[Anonymous No.8014633]

>>8014094
fuckkkk
high test reporting in

[Anonymous No.8014634]

>>8014610
It's a fairly small niche fashion and the fatties muck it up by looking like giant adult babydolls, this reflects on the fashion itself, so jimmies are rustled. Plus, I don't concrit a fatty because first thing I'd address is fit which more often than not, is lacking. It's the elephant in the room, if you'll pardon the reference. Some of us grow tired of coddling the fatties in Lolita. The itas can improve but the cure for fat is to lose weight.

[Anonymous No.8014635]

>>8014630
Only if they put down the cheeseburger

[Anonymous No.8014642]

>>8014634
What if... The reason some Lolitas are such brandwhores in the first place and insist that only brand looks good is to make sure to keep out the fatties who many times can't fit into even full-shirred brand?

[Anonymous No.8014644]

>>8014642

[Anonymous No.8014645]

>>8014630
>>8014627
Why are you guys accusing her of being in denial?
I'd much rather be thin than be fat...

[Anonymous No.8014652]

>>8014429
Even if you lost 90 pounds it doesn't change the fact that you're still fat...

I'll stick to being healthy, thanks

[Anonymous No.8014653]

>>8014591
She's Hispanic? I thought she was some kind of Southeast Asian

[Anonymous No.8014654]

>>8014634
Because a thin girl in Toy Parade the bonnet and a stuffed animal bag doesn't look more or less like a giant baby either.

[Anonymous No.8014656]

>>8014645
I'm the anon who called her sandy. I didn't say she was in denial, just a bitch.

What's the issue with fatties though? Having fatties around you makes you look better in comparison.

[Anonymous No.8014658]

>>8014652
Kek

[Anonymous No.8014665]

>>8014658
ur fat
xD

[Anonymous No.8014667]

>>8014653
She's Black mixed with something else, not sure. She looks fine in the stuff she makes herself, I would consider her right on the edge of the amount of fat that shouldn't wear Lolita. She just shouldn't wear brand. She has lost a little weight in the past year or so but she isn't brand tier yet.

[Anonymous No.8014669]

>>8014667
If this piggu in a horrible mismatched outfit looks "fine" to you, anon... you must be fat and not know how to dress yourself either.

[Anonymous No.8014675]

>>8014665
Never stops being funny

[Anonymous No.8014678]

>>8014632
she's ripped as fuck

[Anonymous No.8014679]

>>8014642
Dingdingding. Epiphany here.

[Anonymous No.8014681]

>>8014667
Nope, still a whale

[Anonymous No.8014682]

>>8014618
>I sincerely doubt it was just about art-theifving poor-fags.

It mostly is, but the main reason fat-hate happens in replica threads is because usually people who buy replicas do because they either can't fit into brand or are poorfags.

[Anonymous No.8014684]

>>8014667
Fat. Look at how distorted those diamond socks are.

[Anonymous No.8014686]

If you weigh more than 120 and are under 5'-2", why are you still doing lolita?

[Anonymous No.8014688]

>>8014656
At least for me, it's really annoying to have a lolita meet and have a lot of fatties attend. They almost always don't look good OR carry their weight well, so it's just an eyesore.

So no, it's not really about "looking better" necessarily. I just want to hang with thin girls who are cute and well-dressed and don't look embarrassing. A meet is much more enjoyable that way.

[Anonymous No.8014691]

>>8014654
Looks better than a fatty. Every time.

[Anonymous No.8014692]

>>8014675
Right?

Delusional fatties are always a constant source of entertainment

I come on these threads just to see all the buttblasted things landwhales post

NEVER ONCE disappointed lol

[Anonymous No.8014695]

>>8014688
Not to mention the food issues if food is served, the awkward silences when thin girls discuss sizes, burando, replicas etc. Awkward.
I don't invite the local fattys to outings.

[Anonymous No.8014700]

>>8014695
Same. I tend not to even make event pages on the comm FB anymore and just invite the girls I've become close with. Meets are much more enjoyable that way.

[Anonymous No.8014703]

>>8014692
Mah nigga keep being awesome

[Anonymous No.8014704]

>>8014630
It's not sandy to discuss opinions about fattys in a thread asking opinions on fattys. People ask opinions? They get them. Just because you don't like mine doesn't make me sandy or a bitch. I also don't like the color red, tomato dishes, monkeys, the Portuguese language or Pokemon. It's just an opinion and a preference. Shouldn't affect you at all unless you take it on. That's your problem, not mine.

[Anonymous No.8014707]

>>8013528
Not true, arm shape, face and legs show. Extreme fatties can get something made but it doesn't look good.

[Anonymous No.8014710]

>>8014704
But monkeys and the color red are awesome

[Anonymous No.8014717]

>>8014066
Are you my long lost lolita twin?

[Anonymous No.8014720]

>>8014656
Nice try.
Having fatties around is a pita because they are sensitive about weight topics and it's often discussed, how things fit, what we wear, you know, fashion concerns. It's weird discussing how you are pushing to lose 2 more cm to wear your Moitié when Hippolita is sitting 2 chairs down.

[Anonymous No.8014722]

>>8014710
Then have all you like and maybe take the fatties with you. Heh.

[Anonymous No.8014725]

60kg, 5'3, 88cm bust 72cm waist here
A-Am I a fatty-chan? Can't fit into smaller burandos like MM ;_;

[Anonymous No.8014726]

>>8013873
anon please share your secrets for rusing longer legs pls -- i have short legs and a stupidly tall, high waisted, torso and its so dumb i always look weird and stumpy no matter what i wear

[Anonymous No.8014731]

>>8014720
Or when all the other girls fit into Moitie just fine and the fatty at the far end of the table is wearing an oojia replica and goes full autismo about her "health problems" and how she has "so much trouble losing weight because of them" therefore it's fine to buy replicas...

[Anonymous No.8014732]

>>8014678
She's too ripped. Her breasts loke like they were glued on to a man's chest.

[Anonymous No.8014733]

>>8014725

As long as you don't like #3 in this >>8014188 you should be fine

[Anonymous No.8014736]

>>8014732
Your opinion. I think she looks nice. Fit as FUCK

Nevermind the abs. Those arms/shoulders tho

[Anonymous No.8014738]

>>8014726
Heels all the way. They make your legs look both longer and thiner.

[Anonymous No.8014741]

>>8014731
Or when we have high tea and use lots of cream and enjoy the lovely food because normally we indulge in moderation so this is a treat and Piggu in her replica is 'dieting' and gives us the stink eye. I admit, last time this happened, I ate a spoon of sugar in her face to taunt her. Nomnomnom. <smile>

[Anonymous No.8014743]

>>8014722
No fatties kek still just can't see why you don't like monkeys or red. I mean monkeys are awesome and hilarious

[Anonymous No.8014746]

>>8014736
Imagine someone like that in lolita or other jfashion, good grief.

[Anonymous No.8014750]

>>8014743
I don't like red because it keeps me awake, lol, so dumb but true. I don't like monkeys because many shit in their hand and throw it at people!

[Anonymous No.8014752]

>>8014741
> eating a spoon of sugar just to taunt someone

Gross.

[Anonymous No.8014753]

>>8014736
Yeah buddy

>>8014746
Boner/10

[Anonymous No.8014756]

>>8014746
What's wrong with that? It's not like her rippling abs would be showing. Lolita covers up quite a bit of skin. The only thing that would be showing would be her arms and legs, which are nice and slender. She'd look really cute.

[Anonymous No.8014757]

>>8014746
She'd just look nice and fit under clothes. Female fitness competitors look amazing!

[Anonymous No.8014758]

>>8014752
It was vanilla turbinado sugar, yummy!

[Anonymous No.8014759]

Related, is 5' 8" 125 lbs in the range of "not deathly skinny"?

[Anonymous No.8014760]

>>8014750
Hmm any idea why the color does that?

And I guess I can see why you don't like monkeys now

[Anonymous No.8014782]

>>8014653
>Azns being that fat
>Imposiburu

Don't you know they're known as the thin masterrace?

[Anonymous No.8014785]

>>8014654
>Stop trying to make "Sweet is ageplay" happen
>Its not going to happen

And girls dressed in JetJ's painting prints look like walking museums and are trying some kind of grandma-kei fashion

[Anonymous No.8014788]

>>8014645
There's a difference between cute fat and "fat" fat though.

[Anonymous No.8014791]

>>8014785
You should read f yeah grandma couch lolita it's fun.

[Anonymous No.8014792]

>>8014782
Hi, there's a fat asian right here >>8014456

I think they mean a South Asian anyway, like Filipinos, who tend to be heavy.

>>8014684
I never said she wasn't fat, she clearly is. I said she is on the border of being too fat for the fashion. She's tall enough to barely manage but she needs to drop at least 30-40 pounds before she should try wearing burando.

[Anonymous No.8014793]

>>8014788
There's cute fat?

[Anonymous No.8014795]

>>8014788
There's a few people who keep saying this but I really just don't see it.
Maybe in infants because skinny infants look ill.
Puppies and grown pugs though to be fair, stocky for the latter is correct but in teen and adult humans?
Fat is not cute.
There isn't a cute type of fat.

[Anonymous No.8014796]

>>8014793
Kek

[Anonymous No.8014800]

>>8014759
It's pretty normal. But as people say, it's the measurements that count for lolita.

[Anonymous No.8014803]

>>8014682
Nah, the whole poor-fag thing is just a coverup and I doubt most people even really give a fuck if someone's designs are being ripped off. Let's just face facts, the replica market is there to mostly appease fatties and let them wear the cute prints they otherwise wouldn't be able to and THAT'S why everyone is so butthurt about it, they hate anything that gives fatty-chans a chance in this fashion. I mean think about it, why else do Lolitas get just as horrified and mad when the fatties alter their precious burando? Remember the Tifaret and Cat's Tea Party incident? Everyone was all crying on here "muh dream dress~" when really shouldn't have they been grateful that at least she supported AP and their designer instead of supporting to replicas? They didn't give a shit though and still gave her as much grief as they would if she would have worn a replica, which should tell you something about how much the replica debate is really about "replicas"

>TD;LR: Lolitas just want fatties to stop being interested in the fashion and will do whatever it takes to kick them out and deter them from wearing it.

[Anonymous No.8014806]

>>8014803
I wish there was a replica-free concrit group.

[Anonymous No.8014807]

>>8014620
holy shit, she looks like those characters that eschergirlstumblr try to re-draw with realistic proportions.
>>8014632

She's on the lighter side by female body building standards. The bikini is fucking ugly on its own and unfortunately, it seems to be a standard cut in body building competitions. Also, I think that is just looks weird with the way her breasts look in comparison to the rest of her body. I'm going to assume that they're implants. It's actually not all that uncommon for female body builders to have breast implants to make themselves look more feminine while bulking up.

[Anonymous No.8014811]

>>8014746
Hmm. I don't think that she'd typically be the kind of person who'd personality-wise suit lolita and any other kind of kawaii-centric J-fashion, but maybe with some effort, I'm sure she'd be cute.

[Anonymous No.8014815]

>>8014630
Except the weight more often stays on than comes off. Fatties usually stay fat.

[Anonymous No.8014816]

>>8014686
But shorty-chans are perfect for Lolita, Lolita was pretty much made for them, they certainly look a lot better and suit the fashion more then tall fatties.
I think this statement should be more:

"if you're five ft five+ and and over one seventy pounds, why are you still doing lolita?"

[Anonymous No.8014820]

>>8014792
She's "chubby" not FAT, learn the difference.

[Anonymous No.8014824]

>>8014816
>5'5" and and over one seventy pounds

I don't know how that even happens. I'm 5'11" and can barely stay above 160.

[Anonymous No.8014825]

>>8014795
Yes there is, chubby Asian girl who was posted in this thread that looks like a doll is really fucking cute, cuter then a lot of skinny white bitches, she's a perfect example of the term "cute fat."

[Anonymous No.8014832]

>>8014820
>>8014825
Chubby is a kind euphemism that is used for fat people when you don't want to say fat. There are degrees of fat, fat, fatter, fattest but fat is fat.
You can think she's cute, but I do not. To me she is overweight. To me, she's fat.

[Anonymous No.8014833]

>>8014824
THIS happens

Now this girl is REALLY the type of fat that should stay out of the fashion, tall and fat is like double combo of doom.

[Anonymous No.8014835]

>>8014759
Yeah, or at least it wasn't deathly on me. I was definitely thin, and for that brief period of time when I was thinner I looked pretty spooky (large set ribcage = skeleton time), but 125 was about my ideal.

[Anonymous No.8014836]

>>8014832
Well at least we know where your opinion stands on the topic the OP posted...

[Anonymous No.8014841]

>>8013915
here is a better picture but i can say as a fatty this fashion compliments my shape better than any other fashion i have attempted.

i self post a lot in these threads but i hate how fatties are represented by countless itas.

if it dont zip it dont fit

[Anonymous No.8014843]

>>8014825
>skinny white bitches

Fatty detected

[Anonymous No.8014844]

>>8014836
Well, people excuse and pussyfoot around it too much, I think. Why nothing be direct? We are anon here to speak plainly, honestly. I'm tired of people's excuses and delusions when measuring tapes and scales are everywhere. This is not primarily a fashion for fatties, they are the fringe and I'm sick of coddling them over their weight and the realism of the fit of this fashion. And yes, in before 'it's for Azn fatties' I know many men and gyaru giggle and say 'debu-chan' when Rori is mentioned. That just means western fat is even more off the beam for being suitable, into left field.

[Anonymous No.8014845]

>>8014841
And this is exactly why I keep saying that as long as you're short and aren't TOO fat, you'll be fine in this fashion. You can' say that this girl isn't super cute, she's completely HNNNG worthy.

[Anonymous No.8014846]

>>8014841
The bust is too tight and it looks like you need a much more supportive bra. Your wig looks messy. Not a very good example in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.8014847]

>>8014841
Again compare this type of fat, with THIS type of fat > No.8014833

There is a difference, or a tier so to say.

[Anonymous No.8014848]

>>8014841
I'd pass you over in a concrit thread because the bodice fit is the first thing wrong but of course we are not supposed to tell anyone things like that because fat shaming, right? Pass.

[Anonymous No.8014879]

>>8014803
It's not really about kicking them out or deterring them from wearing it. That doesn't stop fatties from buying replicas and dressing in a fashion that doesn't suit their shape whatsoever.

People hate on fatties because they're a fucking eyesore. That's it.

Being fat is something that's solvable.