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8001154 No.8001154 [Reply] [Original]

In light of cosplay projects like the Wild Places and a bunch of other kickstarter deals looking like shit can we have a off-con photoshoot thread?

>Series and location you shot that
>Did you have a group, if so how did you select the other cosplayers, how did you pick your photographer?
>Any interesting reactions from passer's by?
>Why do you personally think these big elaborate projects fail so hard when they have photographers and cosplayers with way more experience than your average person in the hobby?

>> No.8001449

>>8001154
>Why do you personally think these big elaborate projects fail so hard when they have photographers and cosplayers with way more experience than your average person in the hobby?

Because they are aiming for mediocre. The people giving them money dont know any better so they are happy with whatever results they get. If your audience is stupid and doesnt know whats good then why try to set the bar high.

>> No.8001771

>Why do you personally think these big elaborate projects fail so hard when they have photographers and cosplayers with way more experience than your average person in the hobby?

This is broad generalization but I think is that the big projects are more focused on getting shots that just make the cosplayer look good (ie glamor shots) meanwhile the more passionate cosplayers want to incorporate more elements and spirit of the original series into their pictures

>> No.8002962

bump

>> No.8005097

>>8001154
>>Why do you personally think these big elaborate projects fail so hard when they have photographers and cosplayers with way more experience than your average person in the hobby?

They often don't. A lot of the cosplayers are known names, sure, but they've rarely been around the scene any longer than anybody else of the same age. Same with the photographers. The people who actually have way more experience than average don't do these 'projects'. It's all relative newcomers who have done the normal slog for a year or two, gotten tired of putting effort in and want crowdfunding to fasttrack them to the top. Or like the last big project thing showed, they don't even want that. They're chancers trying to get a free holiday.

>> No.8005327

>>8001154
>>Why do you personally think these big elaborate projects fail so hard when they have photographers and cosplayers with way more experience than your average person in the hobby?

As a photographer who shoots almost exclusively on location, and who has a fairly good insight into how professional magazine and advertising (commercial) photographers work, I'd say it's a combination of being over-ambitious, lack of experience, and under-estimating the logistical difficulties.

In most professional environments, you have a fixer and a producer who will manage locations, schedules, permissions, licenses, transport, and budget, among other things. These are also the people who will help the most when something (inevitably) goes wrong.

Most cosplay photographers, regardless of how good they are technically, are amateurs in the logistics area. It might be fairly easy to do a few location shoots, but once you start stringing them together, it gets progressively more complex to plan. And if something comes up, that can derail everything.

Add to that the ego issues in the cosplay community, and the level of professionalism of both the cosplayers and the photographers (by which I mean commitment to getting the stuff done, perseverance, and stability under pressure), and you will find it surprising that any of these projects actually make it to completion.