Ask a brolita (almost) anything!

[Anonymous No.7991381]

I see a lot of brolita hate out there. I've always thought that understanding each other would stop so much hate, so I'm here to help you understand.

>Almost anything
I'm gonna be anonymous. I won't answer anything that could possibly reveal my identity.

I'll be around intermittently for the next few days to answer. Other brolitas are welcome to answer too, I'm just one person and my opinions should not be taken as that of the majority.

[Anonymous No.7991395]

Do you pass? If not, no one cares.

If you do, but you won't post a picture, no one cares.

Don't bother trying to self post

[Anonymous No.7991396]

Nobody minds as long as you aren't a creepy sissy. Staying on topic, do you tuck or not?

[OP No.7991408]

>>7991395
Few people pass 100%. I'm damn good, but my voice ruins it. I just act shy.

>>7991396
I do tuck, but I don't tape. I use a tight butt pad panty and a body shaper, and it goes nowhere.

[Anonymous No.7991412]

>>7991408
Why do you bother with all that? After tights and bloomers and a petti I don't think anyone is seeing my bulge or body shape at all.

[Anonymous No.7991415]

>>7991412
Better safe than sorry if I had to guess. As a chick, if I cosplay something without a bra I wear pasties no matter how sure I am I won't flash someone just in case there's some major malfunction.

[OP No.7991417]

>>7991412
It stops awkward boners and helps me feel more feminine. To me, the feel is important because I find that if I feel more feminine, I automatically act more feminine as well. I take it you don't then?

[Anonymous No.7991458]

>>7991417
No I don't, I'm not that feminine though so meh. How many random boners do you get for that to even be a concern? I've never worried about that before.

[Funk Brothers !!sEQILr75Rya No.7991468]

>>7991381
You should feel bad for making a thread like this, OP.

[Anonymous No.7991471]

I don't hate brolitas but unless transitioning, I also would feel awkward having one in what is 'my girl group'. Are you accepted in your local com? Why do you brolita? (Last question for any brolitas, I'm curious why you'd want to, actually.)

[Anonymous No.7991516]

>>7991471
Not OP, but I can answer these.

Accepted? Absolutely. I haven't had problems with anyone in my local comm and most people think it's really awesome.

Why? Because I like cute things and the fashion just appeals to me.

[Anonymous No.7991522]

>>7991471
I haven't had any problems and I get along with my comm. As for why, I like cute clothes and putting together cute outfits. As a guy you don't really get to do that normally.

[OP No.7991529]

>>7991471
I'm accepted by some, and tolerated by the rest. I figure I haven't creeped anyone out because I still get invited to meets and haven't been posted to BtB. I understand not being in the 'girl group' though. I'm not transitioning, nor do I have any intention of, but I still loli up because I enjoy feeling pretty. There's just not much interesting about men's clothes, nothing fun about wearing them. I love the intricacies of lolita fashion, the beautiful prints, and the luxuriant fabrics. Sure, it's rough from time to time, but it's so much fun to just feel like a princess instead of some peasant.

>>7991458
Oh, and I've never had a problem before (not that I could have one with that if I wanted to, with how tight that shit is) but I'm mortified of the possibility. If going without works for you, go for it, but I think I would feel naked without a gaff, at the very least.

[Anonymous No.7991538]

I have always wondered why brolitas wear dresses. Even though in the past, men wore dresses and smocks, current day fashion has dresses and skirts as fashion items for women. So why do brolitas wear Lolita dresses and skirts instead of something like ouji or luxurious outfits inspired by historic European clothes? Do brolitas wear dresses and skirts outside of Lolita items? I have nothing against brolitas but it always confused me because I found it odd that they would wear Lolita dresses but not other dresses or skirts outside of Lolita fashion or why they wouldn't want to wear historical inspired men's clothes.

[Anonymous No.7991782]

>>7991381
Why did you pick such a shitty faggy hobby?

[Anonymous No.7991820]

>>7991395
>>7991468
>>7991782
Jesus christ you're a bunch of judgmental pricks for people who play dress-up

[Anonymous No.7991859]

>>7991538
Because they want to be the little girl. "I just want to feel pretty" and "male clothing is boring" my ass.

[Anonymous No.7991897]

>>7991859
Wow, that sounds like the exact same arguments many people use when trying to accuse Lolitas (actual girls) of being fetishists.
>Because they want to be the little girl.
>"I just want to feel pretty" and "normal female clothing is boring" my ass, you must all be fetishists, age players and pedo baits! XD

Sorry to disappoint you anon, but there might be some people of the male gender too out there actually enjoying it for the beauty of the fashion.

[Anonymous No.7991919]

Hey OP, male here. I want to do a 2hu cosplay but I want to make it look especially good. Any tips?

[Anonymous No.7991923]

How does it feel to be a closet cross-dresser?

[Anonymous No.7991925]

>>7991538
Not a brolita, but there are female lolitas who don't wear dresses and skirts outside of the fashion. I don't find it that weird, some guys just like dresses.

[Anonymous No.7991926]

>>7991923
Not OP, but it feels ok. I don't want to face judgement from my peers. I CD in my home sometimes when I want to feel pretty.

[Anonymous No.7991966]

>>7991923
Who says we are closet cross-dressers? I'm pretty open about it.

[Anonymous No.7991968]

Its sickening. Do you not feel bad making what is essentially a young girls hobby look like some kind of sicko fetish? I hope you don't go to meets. I don't think brolita helps us any

[Anonymous No.7991974]

>>7991968
>your rights end where my feelings begin.
Hey everyone look! It's an American!

[Anonymous No.7991995]

>>7991974
>my feelings

Yeah. Good job making entire groups look like sexual deviants.

[Anonymous No.7992006]

>>7991538

Chipping in with my lolita 2cents: I think the tipping point when lolita became more popular was when the clothing became more easily available via brands shipping internationally, indie brands, and taobao. Notice I'm leaving out handmade and custom made, those have always been available. Buying off the rack is much faster and easier than tailoring something either for yourself or having it done for you, plus having all the other people try it on with their own coordinates is really helpful for taking inspiration on what actually looks good vs what looks good in your head while you're making/commissioning an outfit.

Really wouldn't be surprised if brolitas opted for ready-made clothes, cross-dressing and all, because it's easier than learning how to sew their own historical European clothes or taking the time to find decent commissioners to commission from.

I'd almost say there seems to be a niche market for ready-made colourful, cute historical European clothing, especially if the lolitas don't mind if a European dandy comes to their meetup every once in a while. I don't think we've got enough numbers for mass-produced clothes like the lolitas do yet, though.

[Anonymous No.7992022]

>>7991968
>How DARE people enjoy things I don't approve of!
Of course there are creepy sissy fetishists out there, but I don't consider these people "Brolita". Actual Brolitas are often just guys enjoying the clothes, just like you do.

>wah wah they make us look like sick perverts
top kek, as if we don't already do look like "sick perverts" to most normalfags anyway. Brolitas won't change much about that, even if there weren't any Brolitas we would still look like retarded victorian toddler age players or living dolls or whatever bullshit to most of the population.

>also have a pic of Mana who is conveniently forgotten everytime this annoying conversation comes up

[Anonymous No.7992027]

>>7991995
Yes can keep saying that it does.

[Anonymous No.7992046]

>>7991968
Fuck that and fuck you too. I love brolitas.

[Anonymous No.7992281]

>>7991381
this isn't /b/

[Anonymous No.7992303]

>>7991820
Because it's fucking stupid

[Anonymous No.7992678]

I want to crossplay but I have no idea if I'd be able to pull it off well enough ;_;

[Anonymous No.7992718]

>>7992678
So just buy a wig and makeup and see what you look like...

[Anonymous No.7992721]

>>7992718
Wigs are expensive as hell, although I do want one eventually.

As for makeup, I have no idea what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.7992733]

>>7991968
lol you all look like freaks relax

[Anonymous No.7992759]

>>7992721
No they're not, you can get an okay one for like 20 bucks on ebay

[Anonymous No.7992852]

>>7992759
Oh, okay.

My major worry is that my face and figure would just look too masculine and it'd be incredibly obvious I weren't a girl.

[Anonymous No.7992863]

>>7992721
I've got at least 3 loliable natural-looking wigs, all for under 10 bucks on eBay. It's really not that expensive if you don't mind waiting.

[Anonymous No.7993189]

Wait, is it actual girls getting pissed off about brolitas? I thought it was some old ass fundamentalist white guys who were only on here to monitor their daughters' internet use.

[Anonymous No.7993199]

>>7993189

I think it's just trolls trollan.

OP seems to have abandoned thread, though.

[Anonymous No.7993578]

>>7992852
Your face is why I said get a wig and makeup and try it out, like others have said you can get a really cute wig for <$20. As far as your figure goes you just have to pick the right outfit for your body type.
>>7993199
I think there are definitely girls that hate brolitas. Everyone I've met so far has been super nice but there are girls out there bothered by it.

[OP No.7993593]

>>7993199
I have not abandoned the thread, just lurking til the trolls left. Also there's a meet up today, so I'm getting ready for that.
>>7991919
There's a lot to be said for the magic of properly fitting and designed outfits. Find what your problem areas and good areas are, then select a character or design that minimizes your flaws and capitalizes on your successes. I have an angular face, so I choose hairstyles that camouflage my jawline by framing my face. I have nice legs, so I wear lots of skirts, even when cross dressing outside of lolita.

[Anonymous No.7993617]

how tall are you?

[Anonymous No.7993712]

>>7993578
I don't hate brolitas, but is it wrong for me to be uncomfortable that a middle aged man is hanging around when I really just want to hang out with ladies my own age? There's one or two that drift in and out of my comm and I will certainly be polite when they are around but I find age difference to be more off-putting than bio gender.

[Anonymous No.7993716]

>>7993712
No of course not, but most people on here asking about brolita stuff would be in their 20s right?

Sure if you're like, a christmas cake or older, male and still doing this stuff its probably gonna look very weird, I would feel strange too if there was someone like that in my comm. But a young man, even better one that passes well, doesn't make me bat an eyelash.

[Anonymous No.7993771]

>>7993716
Meh, I personally will get my jimmies russled if they're ita. If it's obvious that a brolita is not wearing makeup to even out his skin/pores, has mis-matching items, has unkempt hair, then I will suspect that he's not really into the fashion at all.

I think my bias is because of Mana. Mana is at least in his 50s now, and he's still featured in GLB dressing in lolita. Granted, he's shooped to death in the photos, but THAT is the standard I hold all brolitas to.

When I see a female lolita look amazing, it's "Oh how lovely", but not out-right rejoicing, and if I see a female ita, my reaction is a flaccid "oh how unfortunate". In contrast, if I see a brolita look amazing, I am in goddamn awe, and when I see an ita brolita, then I find myself judging them way more harshly.

Say what you want about Mana, but he is a figurehead in the history of lolita fashion.

And for me, because Mana is still projecting this ideal for brolitas (whether it's realistic or not), I WILL judge bad-looking brolitas more harshly.

[Anonymous No.7993803]

>>7993712
No I feel the same way. Also for middle aged women but especially for middle aged men. Unfortunately all brolitas I've have the misfortune of meeting have been 30+ creepers who very obviously just saw it as an excuse to hang around young women and teenage girls. One even had a young daughter he'd bring along and tried to get into lolita even though she obviously wasn't interested. Creepy as fuck.

[Anonymous No.7993819]

>>7993189
No, I'm a girl and I don't like brolitas. I don't hate them but I wouldn't invite one to a meet.

[Anonymous No.7993840]

>>7992006
This is the anon that you are responding to. I never thought about the accessibility of the clothes. Thanks for the food for thought.

[Anonymous No.7993846]

>>7993617
Not op, but I'm 5'10. Feels bad when AP doesn't make anything that fits right without an underskirt :(
>>7993803
Yeah it sounds like you've just met the really bad brolitas. Try not to judge us all based on the bad ones out there.

[Anonymous No.7993884]

It seems like a lot of girls here see the incredibly awful 'brolitas' posted in the cringe thread and use that as a general opinion-forming base.

I honestly don't blame them, this is probably a result of the drama that happened recently about men not wanting to wear makeup or use a wig when they cosplay, and how lazy and asinine it really is, so its really not hard to extend that to males who want to try lolita fashion, its easy to assume they'll just be:
Lazy
Creepy/Old
Ugly

I'm sure there are good looking ones out there, like Mana and probably more, but just be aware that there will be women who are put off by it too. The important thing is, if you enjoy the clothes, and you put in the proper effort and are not being an ita about it, by all means have at it. I am fine with brolitas.

[Anonymous No.7993885]

>>7991968
>yfw this same women probably flips her shit and starts calling everybody fat neckbeard fedoras if they so much as imply women shouldn't do something just because they're women

[Anonymous No.7993902]

>>7993885
Okay you need to understand that its not the same. Men have persecuted women for generations so its fair that women be allowed to do whatever they want and not be expected to have to follow societal norms. However, men should still follow them because its unappealing when they don't, at least, the ugly ones.

[Anonymous No.7993907]

>>7993902
>SJW detected.

[Anonymous No.7993914]

>>7993902
I can't even tell if this is meant to be a parody of a boldfaced hypocritical feminazi or an actual one.

[Anonymous No.7993925]

>>7993914
>>7993907
Think about it for a second. If I was the SJW i'd be advocating equality and think it fine that men can dress up in lolita. I am the opposite, I don't want equality, I think women are and should be superior and have exclusive access to certain things. I really don't understand what's so hard about this, you girls should be ashamed of yourselves for thinking anything else, its like you want men to continue be in charge, why wouldn't you want them under our feet?

[Anonymous No.7993931]

>>7993925
If women are so superior how'd men ever wind up "in control" to begin with?

[Anonymous No.7993940]

>>7991381
thanks for making this thread OP, I like seeing brolita stuff, I think its harmless fun and cute. I also like traps too so maybe that has to do with it...

either way I have a question for you, was it scary going to your first meet? Did you feel awkward or worried as a newcomer? It was pretty bad my first time and I was nervous as hell so I imagine it would be even worse for a brolita, do tell

[Anonymous No.7993960]

[Anonymous No.7993968]

>>7993925
Men aren't in charge, rich men are. I think you fucks are making the issue a gendered one, when really it's a class issue. Rich men put down everyone, men, women, even white men who aren't rich. The rich keep us down, not men.

[Anonymous No.7993977]

>>7993968
Feminism was basically orchestrated by the social elite as a way to weaponize women as a tool against men and gain more control over both of them.

[Anonymous No.7993980]

>>7993968
This. Fucking SJW shits always talking about the "patriarchy" and they don't seem to realize it's 1% of the male population. That guy at fucking mcdonalds working with you isn't oppressing you, hell, your manager at mcdonalds isn't, even the customers that come in aren't. The guy who owns the franchise you work for is though, the president of the mcdonalds corporation is.

[Anonymous No.7993983]

>>7993977
Seriously. I don't think they realize that during suffragette times, the ones fighting for the vote were are rich as fuck. Middle or lower class women didn't have the time to fight, their husbands probably didn't have the time to vote, they were too busy not dying. Feminism was by rich people, for rich people, then it became obsolete to them so they passed it on as a class weapon.

Rich people don't have to worry about this shit, they have everything they need and want.

[Anonymous No.7993993]

>>7993885
>>7993902
>>7993907
>>7993914
>>7993925
>>7993931
>>7993940
>>7993960
>>7993968
>>7993977
>>7993980
>>7993983
Why are you guys derailing the thread? And why are you being so obvious about it?

[Anonymous No.7993994]

>>7993960
That dress is on backwards isn't it?

[Anonymous No.7993998]

>>7993993
Because all the retards ITT are bitching about EVIL MEN infiltrating their super secret vagina club, when it's really just them being obedient little middleclass fucking puppets again.

[Anonymous No.7994001]

>>7991381
How is the best way to stuff boobs, if at all? Because I've seen too many brolitas over-stuff. At the same time, certain cuts (particularly princess seams) seem to warrant some sort of padding to fill out a bit.

Or you do just focus on particular cuts of items, or tailor?

[Anonymous No.7994006]

>>7994001
left looks so good.
As a small chested girl, those chicken breast looking fake breast things + a padded bra should do it.

[Anonymous No.7994008]

>>7994001
The actually make bras for flat chested girls that have some padding in them, bringing most people to a small A or B cup, which is generally perfect for lolita dresses. You can buy them online at normalfag stores for cheap.

[Anonymous No.7994014]

Just wanted to say that I enjoy everyone who does beautiful lolita. Which gender is under your petti is of no importance to me. Also just want to point out that just because a man likes to CD it doesn't mean he is gay....

[Anonymous No.7994015]

>>7994001
I don't really like stuffing. I think it's a little weird and always comes out looking wrong. Plus I think most lolita fits best on flat or small chested girls anyway.

[Anonymous No.7994150]

>>7991538
Because they're fucking attention whores.

I might be alone on this, but I don't like brolitas because they make the fashion into a joke most of the time just so they can get some giggles and compliments. Even when they are passing, and even if this sounds like tumblr levels of feminism, I hate how men have to "invade" everything women do. I don't mind when men where women clothes, it can be funny and cute sometimes, but it just bugs the shit out of me that they can't let girls have even one things to themselves, even though a lot of lolitas wear it as a sort of feminist statement, or just so they don't have to fit into the typical mould of what women should look like. Men can break their own gender roles without having to seek attention in women's spaces. Pisses me off.

[Anonymous No.7994153]

>>7994150
You fucking people are the ones who ruin lolita. It's not a feminist statement, it's fucking clothes, anyone who wears it as a feminist statement and has an issue with men wearing it deserves for their super secret club to be "invaded" or whatever. People like you ruin feminism and turn it into a disgusting sex war when it shouldn't be that at all. Get out with your fucking gender role forcing ass.

[Anonymous No.7994157]

>>7994150
This. I don't hate them but I don't want them in my girl space. It's also very awkward in less progressive places where males publicly cross-dressing is NOT at all accepted.

[Anonymous No.7994163]

>>7994153
Do you not know how to read? I just said I don't care when men wear women's clothing. I don't mind usual CDs or dragqueens because they're either wearing the same shit that's sold to women en masse and shoved down our throats, or wearing it as a known costume. Lolita is a fucking feminist statement, you torrential dipshit. It originated as one, and is worn as one. It doesn't matter if you don't consider it one, that doesn't change the fact that it exists as a women's countercultural fashion that goes directly against the established modern expectations of women's wear.

[Anonymous No.7994235]

>>7994163
>I'm a special snowflake

[Anonymous No.7994238]

>I see a lot of brolita hate out there.
fuck off, the general opinion here has always been that no one cares as long as you're not a sissy, don't lie.

[Anonymous No.7994273]

>>7994163
How is lolita a feminist statement when it deliberately enforces hyper-traditional sexual values onto and/or straight up infantalizes women while simultaneously puts a incredibly heavy emphasis on physical appearance? Or that outlandish clothing aside, the hair and makeup associated with it is largely in line with East Asian beauty standards? Or the rampant consumerism? I find it incredibly difficult to believe that people can actually say that girls dressing up like girly girls doing girly girl shit is feminist simply because it's attention-grabbing.

[Anonymous No.7994277]

>>7994150
>I hate how men have to "invade" everything women do
>they can't let girls have even one things to themselves
>Men can break their own gender roles without having to seek attention in women's spaces


Is this a joke?

[Anonymous No.7994278]

>>7994163
I'm pretty hardline with my feminism and I 100% agree with >>7994273.

The mental gymnastics some people perform to needlessly politicise and justify their lifestyle is absolutely staggering. People saying shit like "I could stab a man with the wings of my eyeliner, make-up is so feminist, I do it for ME," while ignoring the fact that the make up industry is inherently patriarchal, and their initial choice to use it was borne of years of conditioning they likely weren't aware of. People have way less autonomy than they think and it makes them freak out like this and bend over backwards to try and convince themselves otherwise. Incredible levels of cognitive dissonance right here.

I know full well I put so much value on my appearance because of how I've been conditioned by society. I do not try to claim this desire is my choice or even feminist. It's just not.

[Anonymous No.7994282]

>>7994150
TERF

[Anonymous No.7994290]

>>7994282
cross dressing =/= being trans. a transwoman can't "invade a woman's space" because she IS a woman.

[Anonymous No.7994299]

Question, would any of you lolitas date a brolita?

[Anonymous No.7994306]

>>7994163
>Lolita is a fucking feminist statement
>it originated as one
Feminism doesn't exist in Japan on that wide of a level though, it barely does at all, if you knew anything about any place other than the USA, you'd know that. Also, feminine=/=feminist. Lolita evolved from a very feminine style that was greatly influenced by the influx of extreme westernization in regard to gender roles. It's ties are infact the opposite of feminist.

[Anonymous No.7994307]

>>7993994
Definitely.

[Anonymous No.7994310]

>>7994299
I would, we can share clothes, wigs, etc. Obvious things in common and then we're assured the other will be comfortable going out in public while the other is in lolita.

[Anonymous No.7994316]

>>7994278
Bitching about men breaking gender roles because "weeeh, it's for girls!" is about the most backward thing I can think of.

Dudes have far more gender roles to break than women do at this point. That, and it's considered bad to even HAVE a men's space at this point. If you want to get into men's spaces, you gotta let them get into yours. Period.

I'm a knitter, which is VERY much a woman-only hobby. I LOVE seeing guy knitters if they aren't making a huge deal about it.

And I sincerely doubt lolitas of any stripe, bro or no, are doing this because MUH COUNDERCULTURRRR. It's an aesthetic, not some kind of emo/scene/woe is me/I'm not like other girls shit. It's the same as people who don't shave their legs because GRRL POWAH rather than just not caring to shave their legs. It's a false kind of "empowerment" because you're only doing it to be contrary and unique.

[Anonymous No.7994319]

>>7994306
Thank you, holy fucking god!

[Anonymous No.7994325]

>>7994306
I mean people will call anything feminist nowadays to excuse themselves for doing it. Strippers are so feminist! So are camgirls and whores! And pornstars!

Seriously there was a video about some porn actress claiming to be a feminist and "super smart because she's in college" and then they showed the pornos she was in which was pure women humiliation/degradation porn. Welp.

[Anonymous No.7994358]

>>7994310
Man I would love to date a lolita but I'd feel weird hitting on any of the girls in my comm. Plus I feel like it'd be a bad idea if it didn't end up going well. Lolita comms don't need any extra drama.

[Anonymous No.7994377]

>>7994150
>I hate how men have to "invade" everything women do
Oh man, the hypocrisy and/or delusion of this post is hilarious.

[Anonymous No.7994391]

>>7994358
Brolita here, I have this same problem too. I'm from the LA Area and I'm going to San Diego to visit over New Year's. I'm going to hang out with this girl from the local Comm that I have deep feelings for. What do to?

[Anonymous No.7994408]

>>7991381
When you're in Lolita do you got by a different/more feminine name/ like to be referred to as she? Or do you just let it be known that you're a brolita?

[Anonymous No.7994413]

>>7994299
Nope, I'm the pretty princess, not him.

[Anonymous No.7994626]

Heh, this thread is funny. It keeps getting derailed with the weirdest bait.


Here's a genuine question I've been dying to ask brolitas and crossplayers everywhere:

Which restroom do you use? Are you worried guys will beat you up if you go into the men's room and whip out a weenie from under your dress? How do you even "go" in your layers of frills, do you sit or stand or ??? Or do you go before you leave the house and avoid public washrooms altogether? Is it true that men's toilets are grodier than girls'?

[Anonymous No.7994638]

>>7994408
I go by my regular name and I don't care one way or the other about pronouns.
>>7994626
I use the guys, since I'm not trans I'd feel too weird using the girls.
I've gotten plenty of double takes before but I'm definitely not worried about getting beaten up, and I can take care of myself.
I use stalls since it'd look ridiculous standing in front of a urinal but I just kinda lift up all the frills and go like I normally would.
I've heard the opposite, girls toilets are worse because you guys like to hover over the toilets. Wouldn't really know though.

[Anonymous No.7994642]

>>7994150
>>7994157

>Girl space
>invade everything women do.
>Can't let girls have even one thing to themselves

You two are so many levels of special.

[Anonymous No.7994666]

>>7994638
brother worked very briefly at a gas station years ago, and will confirm this.

The men's bathroom is still gross, but women can be disgusting creatures. Like blood all over the toilet, floor covered in piss, pissing on the damn wall gross.

[Anonymous No.7994696]

>>7994277
seconding this

what is that anon on like seriously that is some bad autism going on

[Anonymous No.7994706]

>>7994666
>pissing on the damn wall

Wait, what? Like they hovered over the bowl and then hit the wall instead or something?

[Anonymous No.7994712]

>>7994642
Jelly he wasn't invited to the girl party.
Fuck off bro.
I'm not asking for my girl space, I'm demanding it.

[Anonymous No.7994758]

>>7991381
why are you all so attention seeking and annoying?

[Anonymous No.7994760]

>>7994299
absolutely ;)

[Anonymous No.7994764]

question, are there very many straight brolitas?

[Anonymous No.7994787]

>>7994764
yes and they're the worst kind

[Anonymous No.7994796]

>>7994306
>>7994278
It's not the same "feminism" in Japan but it does exist, and it exists largely in fashion. Would you say the thing about manba? It was started the same way. And makeup is about reclamation, the same way lolita is. It's a "feminist" statement because it's about using something that might have been used to control you, to empower you, which is something that racial groups do a lot too. I'm not the kind of person who is going to say porn is feminist, but I think that fashion is, and I think a lot of people would agree that dressing the complete opposite of how most people want you to is making some sort of statement, even if you're too uptight to call it feminism.

[OP No.7995363]

>>7993716
Yeah, I'm 22. My comm is mainly between 18-25 so I'm within the comfort zone.
>>7993771
I totally understand this. Honestly, if I look bad, tell me I look bad so I can fix it. I think that many problems with itas are just people not telling them about it, or itas who don't deal with concrit well.
>>7993819
I understand this too. I don't expect to get invited to every meet.
>>7993617
I'm 5'9".
>>7993940
I was terrified for a long time, mostly because I wasn't out to my parents and was scared they'd find out. The girls were polite, at the very least, though. It wasn't until my second meetup that I found someone who was willing to really let me in to that 'girl zone' who really made me feel comfortable. She and I occasionally share clothes now too.
>>7994001
Because I crossdress outside of lolita too, I went all in on breastforms. I have two pairs, one of which was a gift from a trans friend who no longer needed them, for which I am eternally grateful. I also have a double padded pushup bra that I use when I don't use my forms, as mentioned by other repliers.
>>7994408
I'm pretty cool with however you do it. I do have a girl name, but my male name is androgynous, so it doesn't much matter there. As for pronouns, I prefer female ones when I'm dressed as such, and male ones otherwise. I'll answer to both names and both pronouns at any time, but I prefer if you match it to what I'm wearing.
>>7994638
This is honestly what I have the most trouble deciding too. It depends on the area you are in at the time, and how progressive the people there are. I usually use the family or handicapped restroom if available, or I grab a friend and use whichever bathroom they use.
>>7994764
I can't speak for the collective here. I haven't met that many other brolitas. Myself, I'm bi, but I prefer women.

I will respond to the feminism stuff in the next post. I don't think it's that off topic- I knew it would come up.

[Anonymous No.7995863]

Is 30 too old to be a Brolita?

I have a baby face and look younger by about 5-6 years and in excellent shape. It's also nice to have the financial resources to splurge on burando.

[Anonymous No.7995873]

>>7995863
Completely depends on how manly you are really. Buy a wig and makeup and see how young/feminine you look. I'm 25 and I'm doing it.

[Anonymous No.7997078]

>>7995863
30+ Year old Brolita here, never too old if done correctly!

[Anonymous No.7997194]

So... is brolita crossdressing or a male style that complements lolita?

[Anonymous No.7997368]

>>7997194
Crossdressing. Ouji or Aristocrat would be the later.

[Anonymous No.7997394]

>>7994150
>they make the fashion into a joke most of the time just so they can get some giggles and compliments
I think this is the worst part.

>ohoho, it's a MAN but he's wearing WOMENS' clothing! How novel! How droll!

I get it, lolita isn't supposed to be "serious business" all the time, but most of the brolitas are 1) low-effort and 2) ugly, neither of which I can support. Have some fucking self-respect.

It really is attention whoring. Every single brolita I've met has been an insufferable attention whore that gets off on the idea that they're the only male in a female dominated space. They are people who couldn't succeed in any other facets of life and stoop to debasing themselves and my hobby in the process.

The fact that they make themselves look pathetic isn't my problem, but they're actions reflect poorly on the whole community.

Yeah, I'm mad, what're you gonna do about it?

[Anonymous No.7997395]

My comm has had a couple of brolitas in the past. Problem is they all turned out to be major creeps. So tbh the next brolitas I meet, I'm staying the fuck away from him.

[Anonymous No.7997397]

Why do I have to be 'open minded' if I'm a lolita? I don't want to hang around with some tranny.

[Anonymous No.7997501]

>>7997394
>It really is attention whoring. Every single brolita I've met has been an insufferable attention whore that gets off on the idea that they're the only male in a female dominated space. They are people who couldn't succeed in any other facets of life and stoop to debasing themselves and my hobby in the process.

sounds like the common depiction of the gamer grrl, gender-flipped.

[Anonymous No.7997516]

>>7997501
I agree. There are insufferable fucks like that of both genders. It does happen. I think both sides just get pissed when people assume they are going to be an attention whore/not truly into the hobby based solely on their gender.

[Anonymous No.7997577]

>>7997501
They are similar. The difference is that with gaming, you can either have an attention starved girl or someone who legitimates enjoys playing. The latter is good, the former is not.

With brolitas, either they're attention starved or they're cross-dressers. Both are bad. The cross-dresser may be a fun and chill person to hang around, but they make an unfairly sexualized hobby into an even more sexualized one.

[Anonymous No.7997637]

>>7992022
But isn't Mana banana is old now? Like 40/50 years old or so? Still they shoop him to death in the GLB so it won't show. That or he's a vampire like Gakt

[Anonymous No.7997655]

There was awesome brolitas like Splendora and Kagami SpookyPuppet (french brolita who quitted the fashion and got his sex change) i used to kinda stalk him

[Anonymous No.7997698]

>>7997637
Which one do you think turned the other?

[Anonymous No.7997739]

>>7997577
Just cause a dude likes wearing a dress doesn't mean he's in it to get attention from chicks or to get sexual satisfaction from it. Some people just like to dress up in fancy clothes, just like you. You're just prejudiced against dudes in dresses.

I'm of the mindset that you should be open minded to other people, unless they give you a reason not to be. It's fine for you to be a bigot, just acknowledge that's what you are. No one is forcing you to associate with other people.

It sounds like you're the one unfairly sexualizing them.

[Anonymous No.7997744]

>>7997698
Mana, obviously. Also, holy shit my captchas keep being picture identifications of adorable puppies and kitties.

[Anonymous No.7997888]

Is there a reason why almost every brolita wears sweet? Or is it just a very vocal minority (dramu/cringe threads and the likes) ?

[Anonymous No.7997892]

>>7992006
grill here, but this actually kind of makes sense. I'm sure that isn't the only reason guys wear lolita, but it's a lot harder to find boystyle stuff used (cheap)
Which is why I only do lolita.

[Anonymous No.7997915]

>>7994273
I get that view through a Western perspective. But it's because lolita fashion is a selfish and indulgent thing, where a woman is putting her money and focus into herself first instead of seeking out to build a traditional Japanese family where she's supposed to primarily focus on the needs of her children and husband before her own. Japan does put a heavy emphasis on physical appearance, but lolita goes against a lot of the East Asian standards of modesty and conformity. Drawing attention to yourself that way IS considering unladylike and rebellious.

[Anonymous No.7997995]

Brolitas, I'm curious, what do you wish you would find more of in the fashion as far as things that cater specifically to the male figure? I'm specifically curious about the fit of the clothing, are there better cuts that give you a more feminine shape? Do you wish dresses were cut in a different way to accommodate the male body shape and help make it more feminine?

[Anonymous No.7998030]

>>7994299
If I could peg him yeah

[Anonymous No.7998050]

I'm going to sound across as an asshole but I honestly don't give a real shit about any of those people, anyone can do what he wants.

Brolita to me seems to be divided in 3 categories.

1) Most popular, men who dress up like that for laughs. This means the jolly fucks with beards and sunglasses posing around. I don't think it's very funny, reminds me of some male scout friends from back in the day. First they'd pretend to be gay for laughs, then they'd pretend to kiss for laughs, and later they'd jerk eachother off, for real.

2) Guys who have a sissy fetish. Probably makes up a considerable bulk of all the "serious" brolitas.

3) Actual guys who just enjoy it without an underlying sexual fetish. Seems to be pretty fucking rare.

[Anonymous No.7998076]

>>7997995
Brand blouses with slightly longer sleeves would be my wish. They always fit perfectly fine except for the sleeve length. I found a couple that have decent length but they are really hard to come by.

[Anonymous No.7998118]

>>7998050
>Probably makes up a considerable bulk of all the "serious" brolitas.
>Probably

how do you figure this? what evidence do you have, and how much can you honestly say might be your own speculation?

i suspect the same, btw. guys i hang out with are always talking about sex/getting off and i'm starting to see how a lot of geeks' hobbies can be motivated strongly by differing levels of sexual self-indulgence (fujoshi BJD collectors, pony shippers, whatever).

but i want to know what, if they do not themselves tell you, tips you off about fetish brolitas being the majority. do you see boners under their bloomers? how are they different from women in boystyle?

[Anonymous No.7998125]

>>7998118
>how are they different from women in boystyle?
and i mean in terms of mannerisms that would indicate one is doing it for fetish reasons while the other is not, not in terms of one being ok while the other is not, just to be clear.

[Anonymous No.7998177]

>>7998050
>1) Most popular, men who dress up like that for laughs. This means the jolly fucks with beards and sunglasses posing around. I don't think it's very funny, reminds me of some male scout friends from back in the day. First they'd pretend to be gay for laughs, then they'd pretend to kiss for laughs, and later they'd jerk eachother off, for real.

That guy with a beard.

>2) Guys who have a sissy fetish. Probably makes up a considerable bulk of all the "serious" brolitas.

A person such as MB.

>3) Actual guys who just enjoy it without an underlying sexual fetish. Seems to be pretty fucking rare.

Akira, Trumie, Jordy, Anaphrodisiacs, and Funk Brothers in fall here.

[Anonymous No.7998322]

>>7998177
>Akira, Trumie, Jordy, Anaphrodisiacs, and Funk Brothers in fall here.

Notice how all of them are raging attention whores.

[Anonymous No.7998484]

>>7998322
Who gives a fuck? They're all sweet as fuck, especially Jordy. And they dress nice, and that's what actually counts in this fashion.

[Anonymous No.7998488]

>>7998322
I don't know any of the others, but Trumie is legitimately nice and does it because he loves the fashion. I don't think he's in it for the attention at all.

[Brolita !ekxzgVzvOU No.8000127]

It is unfortunate that there is a larger population that are in this for the wrong reasons. They are either some serious creepers out there, some who over compensate for attention, and others who don't even try at all. Because of creepy or overcompensating behavior, we all get lumped in.

That frustrates me a lot because there are a few of us brolitas (or B-Lolita, whichever you prefer) that are genuinely into Lolita, who are seriously into it like any other lolita.

[OP No.8003832]

>OP is not kill
>>7995863
If you are outside of the age range of your comm, I'd tread lightly.
>>7997394
I'm not going to argue the attention whore argument, though I would like to comment that the only lolitas I know who aren't attention whores are the solo lolitas. I think I enjoy the attention I garner from dressing in lolita about as much as the others in my comm.
>>7997888
I started in sweet before switching to classic when I realized I was kind of ita in it. I guess I just wanted to wear pink for a change, really. It was similar to when I started cross dressing in general, I suppose- I wanted to display my femininity without any filters. Only later did I realize that dressing more demurely suited me better.
>>7997995
You have to fit your body. Know your shape, and figure out how to hide it. I use high waistlines to accentuate my legs and high necklines to hide my falsies and Adam's apple, as well as jackets or cardigans to disguise my shoulders. What I really want is shoes that look like heels or platforms that are really flats, so that I can look shorter while wearing heels. I love heels, but I'm already 5'9"...
>>7998050
I like you. You're a realist.
>>8000127
Seconded.

[Anonymous No.8003851]

>>7992852
I cover my face with a scarf and wear glasses.

It works well enough, I guess.

[Anonymous No.8005836]

Any advice on where to get blouses with longer sleeves?

[Anonymous No.8005845]

I have a question. I have a brolita in my comm who's very sweet and into the fashion. He's someone I'd like to be friends with really. But since he's been accepted into the comm, almost any other comment he makes is how grateful he is to the comm and how happy he is and what not. Its really sweet, how grateful he is that everyone accepts him but I'm starting to question it. Hes been in this comm for at least half a year, i think longer but Im not quite sure. I know he's still grateful for the comm but shouldn't all the comments of gratitude have worn off by now? Do any of you guys do this?

[Anonymous No.8005859]

>>7998030
fffffffuuuuuuu
marry me

[Brolita665 No.8006010]

>>8005836 There are a few options out there. It really depends on the overall look you are trying to coordinate. I can vouch for Fan+Friend when using custom sizing, they are usually spot on and if you are a brolita, it would be good to get a custom size for a better fitting.

[Brolita665 No.8006014]

>>8005845
Some people are honestly just grateful for the acceptance. I know with a lot of the misconceptions and the creepers out there, it can be difficult to be accepted. If this one fits in the non-creeper, non-fetishist, actually interested in Lolita category, he will always be grateful for being part of a community. I think that's something every brolita wants.

We can get into the psychology of it all but it just boils down to him being happy to be part of a comm. I know that I, as a brolita, will always be eternally grateful for being part of my comm and accepting me.

[Anonymous No.8006065]

>>7997915
>thinking that being childish is feminist
>ergo the reverse is true

[Anonymous No.8006100]

>>7994150
I feel the same. We have a handful of brolitas in my comm but of course most of us are female, so we talk about girl stuff a lot. Every time this happens one of them will pipe up about how they feel so awkward with the subject because they can't participate, and then some SJW will guilt the rest of the comm into talking about more ~inclusive~ subjects to spare the crossdresser's feelings.
Bitch you are dressing as a woman and attending a meetup meant for women and then you're going to cry when we talk about women-oriented subjects? Fuck right off. You're feeling unwelcome and out of place because you ARE unwelcome and out of place. What did you expect?

[OP No.8006101]

>>8005836
>>8006010
Yeah, I use fanplusfriend pretty often myself. They're good.
>>8005845
>>8006014
I think that's a hallmark of us non-creepers. After every meet I thank everyone for having me.

[OP No.8006110]

>>8006100
I tend to be quiet if there's a subject I can't contribute to. No reason to ruin your fun. Why not try expressing this view (with finesse and tact) next time, if you haven't already. Alternatively, invite another brolita or male to the meet. In my comm, it's actually pretty common for the girls to bring a boyfriend. Perhaps he would talk with the guys if he can't talk to you, if talking it out doesn't work.

[Brolita665 No.8006151]

>>8006110
If there is a situation where I can't relate, I do take it as an opportunity to listen and learn. I would want to blend in instead of focusing everything on myself.

If you want attention, there are plenty of other places instead of your local com to do that at.

[Anonymous No.8006172]

>>8006100
>Every time this happens one of them will pipe up about how they feel so awkward with the subject because they can't participate, and then some SJW will guilt the rest of the comm into talking about more ~inclusive~ subjects to spare the crossdresser's feelings.

That's some rude brolitas you got there. Usually when we habe a 10-20 people meet up there is always a group of people talking about something other than make up or "girly stuff" or some boyfriends around that one could talk to if they don't want to talk about make up.
But our local brolita usually participates in our girl talk; we exchange tips for make up brands, where to buy false eyelashes, wig quality, newest brand releases etc. Since he cares and uses all of the stuff most Lolitas use too (brand releases, make up, wigs and so on) he isn't really excluded, and even if he cannot participate in a conversation he either just listens or talks to someone else. This thread makes me more and more happy to have such a well dressed and well behaved Brolita in our comm...

[Brolita665 No.8006196]

>>8006172
A fine example of a brolita is what that is!

[Anonymous No.8006203]

>>8006196
I'm honestly sad to see that there aren't more Brolitas like ours around. He's a lovely guy and while I am sadly not too close or friends with him it's always a pleasure to talk to him and his coords and looks are fine. He's not the prettiest but puts a lot of effort in his appareance and can pass for a girl.

I also don't get why >>8006100 s Brolitas feel so left out in girl talk (as said, since our Brolita shares such a big common interest with us it is only natural he loves to discuss about that stuff too, especially since it is one of the rare occasions he can sefaly admit that he buys make up, wigs and frilly dresses) and their behaviour in general seems pretty rude. There's always topics I cannot discuss either (upcoming Angelic Pretty prints, conventions which I don't attend, etc) but I don't cry "OMG why don't you include me??? ;__; #triggered #elitism" but simply acknowledge the world doesn't revolve around me.

[Brolita665 No.8008206]

>>8006203
Yeah, it's difficult to find other brolitas like ourselves around. I've tried other forums and what not, but they all generally fall into those other categories. I've met one other that was into it like we are. But again, it's a rarity.

Yeah, if we have others demanding to be included, they may want to re-evaluate their interactions with their groups. "Hey look at me and include me" when you haven't built rapport doesn't work well in any situation and that causes us all to be lumped into attention seeking creepers. I wish there was a comm where we didn't have that so much or at all.

[OP No.8008286]

>>8008206
Since this thread is beginning to die off, hit me up on Kik if you want to talk more.
>Kyonkicchi

[Anonymous No.8008309]

>>8006203
Exactly. The only time I can talk about lolita things is when I'm talking with my friends from the comm(s). My gf doesn't like going to meetups with me because "all you guys talk about is lolita stuff and that's boring"

It's not boring for us though! :D

[Brolita665 No.8008522]

>>8008286
>Kyonkicchi
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