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[Anonymous No.7921350]

New Gensobox thread. >>7917794 on autosage.

Anyone else get theirs?
Knockoffs galore!
Personalized my ass.

Lets get some more discussion going. Whoever the owners are fucked up. Also, considering they're probably white bitches, no wonder they used the google translate version of the word.

[Anonymous No.7921382]

>>7921350
Ads are down from Lacemarket. I know that they sell adspace for a month-long run, so they must have taken them down early?

[Anonymous No.7921389]

>>7921382
Saw that in the last thread.

Also saw people considering buying a box and reporting all the fakes to paypal. It seems like a good plan to me, whoever suggested it.

[Anonymous No.7921425]

>get curious
>no menswear options
>give up

dodged a fuckin bullet

[Anonymous No.7921432]

I should be getting mine early next week. Will review.

[Anonymous No.7921495]

so I guess the easiest way to make money from weebs and lolitas is to slap "magical girl" on something, you guys gobble that shit up.

[Anonymous No.7921530]

Honestly though this would such a good idea if run correctly. Make deals for bulk stuff, with taobao shops, indie shops, for leftover things. You'd need to have a stock of things so that actual customization could be done.

[Anonymous No.7921539]

>>7921530
An anon from the last thread will be doing pretty much that with accessories soon enough.

[Anonymous No.7921555]

This makes me so bad because it is such an amazing idea.
If someone from these threads wanted to do the same exact thing for me, make coords personalized for my style and height, then order it for me,I would actually pay them to do so.

[Anonymous No.7921575]

>>7921555
Hey I've been using taobao for like 4 years, I'll do it for you

[Anonymous No.7921590]

>>7921575
Um I'd be up for this too. You better have a great sense of style though.

[Anonymous No.7921599]

>>7921590
not to mention be able to coordinate to specific measurements (short, chubby, tall, busty)

[Anonymous No.7921604]

>>7921599
Having the customer send you a picture of themselves would probably help a lot with skin tone and hair - not all people fit in all colors.

[Anonymous No.7921609]

>>7921555
I just can't see this ever working out. Fashion is such a personal thing there's no way even 50% of the people would be happy with outfits chosen if it was "done right." It could possibly work out if the customers were hopeless with fashion and needed a kick in the right direction, but it seems like a lot of the orders came from girls who already have a decent grasp on the styles offered and would be nitpicky even if they had done a much better job.

I did a shopping service for a while and a surprising majority of customers that were very chatty and indecisive and made it not worth it simply from the time it would take to communicate with them. My worst offender had over 3000 messages by the end of my run, mostly adding and removing items for future orders. I told her countless times to please only contact me when you are ready but was strung along with the promise that she'd be able to place it in next week. Then something would always come up and bump it out further. She placed huge orders from time to time so I humored it the best I could but honestly she's the reason I quit.
Of course blindboxes are a lot different, but my point about the SS is that personalizing an order to each person's tastes would require a lot of communication and there would need to be a markup on prices to accommodate for that time. The way Genso Box did things by having a premade outfit to send to everyone is the best way for a profit but that obviously won't please everyone.

I understand things like makeup blindboxes but doing it for clothing seems like it's destined to fail unless it's coming directly from a brand in a lucky pack. That way you have a much narrower view of what to expect.

[Anonymous No.7921617]

I've bought lucky packs from brands only twice, and both times I was dissapointed. Wouldn't touch THIS with a ten foot pole.

[Anonymous No.7922902]

>how about little game

They have mahou box, kawaii box (anime, aomaji, idol), gal box(agejo, glam, onee) and lolita(sweet, gothic, classic).

There is 100$ limit for a box except lollita, which is 200$.

What would you put in box?

[Anonymous No.7922914]

>>7922902
>Mahou shoujo
either a pastel sailor uniform inspired outfit with a top and bottom=$20-$30

or one of the dresses from that one taobao shop (richer, darker, jewel colours)=$25-$34
+
Tights or thigh highs($2)
+
Some kind of matching jewlery/acessory($5-$10)
+some kind of cutesy cheap bag-$10
---------------------------------
So about $70-$80 with $20-$30 profit

Lolita:

jsk-$80
blouse-$25
some kind of headwear-$15
tights+socks-$5
Assortment of acessories-$15
------------------------------------------
$140 for a profit of $60
If they wanted a skirt, I'd aim for one that was about $40 and add in an extra blouse or a wig

[Anonymous No.7922921]

>>7921609
Agreed, small items and clothes along some basic preferences are doable, but completely personal would just be a disaster. I can already imagine all the complaints about how "this ttly doesn't fit my style!!"

[Anonymous No.7922963]

>>7922914
keep in mind you have to factor in shipping costs too

[Anonymous No.7923042]

>>7922914
I feel like the profit margins would be too high, otherwise I think this is a reasonable-ish assortment.

I wouldn't pay someone that much money to pick clothes out for me. I guess it depends on how much you feel your time and efforts are worth, and what people are willing to pay, though. Wherever there's a good idea with a paying niche market there's going to be competition who'll do it cheaper, so building up a loyal customer base with good service might be the only way to keep more than tiny profits.

I think this is kind of interesting to discuss, since e-business is something I've always wanted to get involved in. I love when these kind of threads pop up on cgl

[Anonymous No.7923060]

>>7922902
I tried to make a sweet/classic box and a darker one. It's difficult with a limited budget and availability/quality of the items, ideally I would like to have a nice hat with tulle train but that would put the box way out of budget. Gave up on finding original socks though.

If they were planning on doing a lolita pack I'm going to guess that they'll pick from cheap brands such as Pumpkin Cat, Chess Story and semi loliable ie. Miss Point, worst case scenario paper thin replicas. It is highly likely that there will be nothing by the major Chinese indies (Krad/Surface Spell/R-series) since 1 dress will take up the majority of the budget.

>Inb4 anons come in and say things about buying in bulk etc
Do you really think they can buy things in bulk for a discounted price when there are girls lining up to pay the full price?

[Anonymous No.7923063]

>>7921350
>>7923060
Miss Pointe isn't that bad to be honest. I have one of their dress and it's so beautiful and well constructed.

[Anonymous No.7923067]

>>7923063
Some of their dresses are loliable, but most look like vintage-ish fashion to me. I guess the thing that irks me most is that they pander to normalfags, claim to be original while ripping off designs left and right (especially IW and MM). If you go to the front page now there is a blatant Excentrique corset knockoff.
That being said, I'd rather get a well constructed piece from Miss Point than a paper thin pseudo replica from Half Milk or Mysis. I hope the "personal stylists" are at least able to tell a blatant replica.

[Anonymous No.7923156]

>>7923060
>Do you really think they can buy things in bulk for a discounted price when there are girls lining up to pay the full price?

Uhm anon, yeah, most taobao shops offer bulk prices the more you buy, they even do that on aliexpress. You can even ask the shopping service you use to ask the shop for you and they can usually get you a decent rate.

[Anonymous No.7923179]

>>7923060
cute looks

[Anonymous No.7923189]

>>7923060
I would say switch out the pettis for more accessories. Maybe jewelry and a bag.

[Anonymous No.7923217]

>>7923189
i can see the pointlessness of a petti for girls that have been wearing the fashion for a while, but i think for a starter kit, at least, the petti is perhaps the most important part of the package

i can just imagine the more stubborn newbies saying "but a petti didn't come in the starter pack so i obv don't actually *NEEEEED* it to have a coord!!"

[Anonymous No.7923233]

>>7923217
Oh, I wasn't thinking of it as a starter pack. I think it would need to be more expensive for a starter pack so that you could get up into the 2 blouses/1 skirt or 2 skirts/1 blouse range.

[Anonymous No.7923247]

>>7923217
Gensobox had an option of adding a wig for an extra $20. Maybe should have swapped out the wig for a petticoat instead.

[Anonymous No.7923252]

>>7923217
Maybe just have an option to switch out the petti for more accesories.

[Anonymous No.7923253]

>>7923247
>wig is an extra $20
>wigs on taobao cost like 20 yuan
>wigs on aliexpress are like $13

lol were they srs

[Anonymous No.7923256]

>check gensobox tag on tumblr for laughs
>see this

[Anonymous No.7923257]

>>7923256
So? I don't get your point. Plenty of people even here say they don't feel comfortable wearing cross motifs, some for religious reasons.

[Anonymous No.7923261]

>>7923253
Look at the customer base they wanted. Dumb newbies who don't know any better and don't know how to use taobao. To someone new, $20 for a wig sounds like a pretty good deal.

I don't really hold any ill will towards them for that but their idea is still stupid as fuck. They'd be better off reselling the items upfront without the blind box gimmick. Too much risk of upset customers and bad reviews.

[Anonymous No.7923269]

So, are the people who got their boxes opening a dispute with paypal?
What are they gonna file it under, replicas?
I haven't got mine yet but from the looks of the other anon's I feel like I'll have to open one.

[Anonymous No.7923273]

>>7923269
Filing mine under replica especially if I get the sailor moon knockoff. Bandai is a big company and they license stuff in the US as well as Japan.

[Anonymous No.7923283]

>>7922902
for mahou shoujo

[Anonymous No.7923284]

>>7923261
>They'd be better off reselling the items upfront without the blind box gimmick.

Not really. Blindboxes work with intrigue and they sell a lot more shit at once than if people are being choosey.

[Anonymous No.7923286]

>>7923283
The sailor themed seifuku style is a bit much, without the anchors and stuff would be better.

[Anonymous No.7923288]

>>7923284
With a clothing blind box their reputation will go down the drain no matter how good they are. There's always going to be a bunch of customers who aren't happy with what they got. Especially difficult to avoid with a community like jfashion where word spreads quickly. Long term it doesn't work out which is what I mean by reselling being smarter despite selling less.

[Anonymous No.7923293]

>>7923288
It's smarter if you're trying for the long run, but these girls seemed like they just wanted to make some cash quickly as possible.

However you can easily build a reputation selling only blindboxes, which they failed at doing.

Also, I think you have a more westernized view of blindboxes, pretty much all stores in Japan, including ones that don't need or have reputations(such as dollarstore types) sell blindboxes once in a while.

I think the western view of them is limited to makeup and lolita lucky packs.

An easier way for them to do this was to make up a few sets for each style and guarantee one of them, and have one set filled with a few bonus things, like re-ment blind boxes, where you buy them in order to get something you want that you have the chance of getting.

There are ways to do this, but this way was the worst.

[Anonymous No.7923297]

I love the idea of a themed box. Winter theme would be adorable.

[Anonymous No.7923298]

>>7923297
I'm gonna need the source on those items, especially the capelet.

[Anonymous No.7923316]

I wonder if they deliberately set out to rip people off, or if they were just morons who saw pretty promo pics and low TaoBao prices, and got so greedy they didn't think to order samples first.

[Anonymous No.7923326]

>>7923257
>not liking cross motifs
>wearing gothic
pick one

[Anonymous No.7923330]

>>7923298
Dunno about the capelet, but the coat is from fraises.taobao.com (the name is on the tag) and the adress for the collar is on the pic.

[Anonymous No.7923333]

>>7923297
Collar and capelet are from the same store.

[Anonymous No.7923336]

>>7923326
I wear gothic and don't like crosses. There are other more compelling reasons I wouldn't buy one of these boxes, but it is a factor in why I am careful with blind purchases for gothic stuff.

[Anonymous No.7923348]

why do so many people have problems with crosses

I don't believe in santa but i still buy santa themed shit when the time comes

[Anonymous No.7923398]

>>7923283
I feel like this would appeal to so many Tumblr types and general weebs but a lot of people here will hate it. That's why these boxes will never really work.

[Anonymous No.7923405]

>>7923398
Aren't there more of them than there are of us? Or do you mean that the people who hang out here are more likely to put their money where their mouths are?

[Anonymous No.7923408]

>>7923283
gonna need the source on that CCS ring anon

[Anonymous No.7923409]

>>7923286
Agreed. I love anchors and sailor themes, but it strays too much from a mahou shoujo theme into some weird mahou sailor mix.

[Anonymous No.7923423]

>>7923348
I'm not sure what my problem is, to be honest. And funny you should mention Santa because I also hate Christmas-themed stuff. I put up a tree sometimes but most of my ornaments are white, silver, and pink and not typical Christmassy theme. It doesn't bother me when other people do it, and I'm not hardcore anti-religion or anything, but it just makes me feel weird so I avoid wearing/doing those things.

[Anonymous No.7923430]

I know this has been said but I just want an accessory blind box. I'd pay $20-50 for a bunch of cute accessories.

[Anonymous No.7923452]

>>7923156
Sorry, but statement was made for popular brands who sells out within 5minutes when things go up (krad etc). Honestly the only way I can think of getting lolita discounts on taobao is following massive group order with the Chinese lolitas, (classical puppet has one going on permanently but I doubt the organizers know about it) or pre order super early and get a discounted price, which wouldn't work as they claim to send you your package within 2-4weeks after paying and those reservations take months. If they're lucky they will find brands on sale but I'm doubt it.
Also adding some Taobao brands are anal about people asking for discounts, and will straight up blacklist/ ignore you.

[Anonymous No.7923462]

>>7922963
Skipper shipping was separate no?

[Anonymous No.7923478]

>>7923348
Santa is not quite as spiritually charged as crosses are. Regardless of the symbol's origin it's a very Christian thing for many people whereas Santa is pure commercialism.
Now if someone made an actual Saint Nicholas coord... Let's take bets on how long it will take for someone to incorporate a mitre into a lolita outfit.

[Anonymous No.7923495]

>>7923430
Like this?

[Anonymous No.7923498]

>>7923405
Yes, there are more of them. But people on here (and a few others, for that matter) will shit all over the weeby tastes.

[Anonymous No.7923533]

>>7923478
> saint nicholas coord

I'd wear it

[Anonymous No.7923537]

>>7923495
Yes! Maybe less tights because taobao stuff will never fit my legs, but in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.7923546]

>>7923498
Does that actually stop them? (are they even capable of experiencing shame?) I always had the impression that if someone's a diehard weeb they'll cling to whatever piece of shit they're into like a male anglerfish after fusion.

[Anonymous No.7923565]

I GOT MY BOX.
I was Cute Witch Shoujo.
My box is...surprisingly good.
Too bad I already owned the shirt/shirt, but they had no way of knowing that.
Ignore the wet spots on the floor, drooly dogs.

The wig is pretty good quality, I've already reviewed the skirt/shirt before. They're excellent quality. I'm glad they sent a wig brush too, mine broke recently.
The bag is nice, it has lace around the edges. Not sure if it's a knockoff of something, I'm sure it is but w/e.
The tights fit me wonderfully and are decently thick. The beret is a little big but I have a small head, over the wig it fits perfectly.
Overall it's actually a really nice starter set.

[Anonymous No.7923567]

>>7923565
>drooly dogs
>laying items on the floor
I wouldn't have noticed the wet spots if you didn't point them out. Eugh.

Glad your box turned out well for you, though!

[Anonymous No.7923569]

>>7923565
Wow, everything is surprisingly cohesive. The other mahou shoujo girl got fucked over with so much mismatched shit

[Anonymous No.7923574]

>>7923569
I know, that's why I was so worried.
Maybe she got a different person making her box?
>>7923567
I clean the floor anon, and I don't lay my items in drool.

[Anonymous No.7923576]

>>7923565
this is a well thought out box, bag is most likely a knock off but everything works well together

[Anonymous No.7923578]

>>7923565
this is absolutely not worth $100

[Anonymous No.7923585]

>>7923565
>skirt/shirt before. They're excellent quality
>excellent quality
>gross looking tail
I can tell from the picture they are not.

>that beret
>cross tights
>bat wing bag

This is more devil than witch...

[Anonymous No.7923587]

>>7923578
Definitely. The same items could be purchased for maybe $30 from Taobao.

I only wish I'd thought of this. I bet the owner is making mad cash from retarded weebs.

[Anonymous No.7923592]

>>7923585
The tail is shit yeah, but the rest is excellent.
I took the tail off my other one.
It's decently heavy and warm enough to wear out in this weather.

[Anonymous No.7923597]

>>7923587
Eh, I figured it might be shit but I'm happy enough to take the fall for other seagull's curiosity.
It's not really witch at all. I was kind of hoping for a cool hat...
All in all it's not too bad though. I know not to do it again and I can hopefully sell my second skirt/shirt to someone who missed out on it.

[Anonymous No.7923603]

>>7923565
Hey, I recognize that bag, skirt, and beret! Bag is like $5, skirt goes for about $8, and I own the wool beret, which I got from ebay for $2.

Really got quite the value, anon.

[Anonymous No.7923626]

>>7923603
Yeah, I already owned the skirt/shirt. I know it's not worth what I paid in the least. I've already posted a review on my tumblr and in my comm page.

[Anonymous No.7923639]

>>7923565
Well shit this is really cute. I'm more hopeful for my box now

[Anonymous No.7923644]

>>7923639
To be honest it's not really worth the price in the least, but at leas I got some cute things out of it.
Wish I didn't already have the main pieces though.

[Anonymous No.7923646]

>>7923603
... Where can you get that bag for $5??

[Anonymous No.7923670]

>>7923565
You're really satisfied with this? It looks more like demon, not witch at all. That plain beret doesn't go with anything, nor does it fit the theme.

This is all just stuff that happens to be black and edgy-desu. All you people who are saying it's cute must have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.7923676]

>>7923565
Thanks for the pics and review anon! Glad you're happy with your box, too bad about the double up on the skirt. Skirt looks like it'd be a pretty cool design minus the tail, good call on ripping it off your original. Did you pay extra for the wig? Would have been nice with a little more accessories like necklace or earrings.

Can we stop ragging on anons who took the plunge to buy and come back here to show and review this stuff for us? We already know that the value isn't there, we basically had half of the last thread talking about how they are not doing the expensive shit for lower price kind of boxes.

Would love to see more anon created box ideas, >>7923297 is really cute. If anons don't mind can they also include links to their items when they create a box?

[Anonymous No.7923680]

>>7923676
>Can we stop ragging on anons who took the plunge to buy and come back here to show and review this stuff for us? We already know that the value isn't there, we basically had half of the last thread talking about how they are not doing the expensive shit for lower price kind of boxes.

No fuck you, they are still mismatched weeb garbage that looks like shit.

Even with >>7923565 box, you can tell there was no effort put in at all to try to make it witchy or anything. It doesn't even come with accessories.

Also, stop creating boxes. The Gensobox owner is ITT and she's using your suggestions.

[Anonymous No.7923681]

>>7923676
>Would have been nice with a little more accessories like necklace or earrings.
>little more

They didn't even include any.

[Anonymous No.7923683]

>>7923670
>That plain beret doesn't go with anything, nor does it fit the theme.

I kind of have to agree here. It looks like they just found the cheapest black items and threw them together.

[Anonymous No.7923684]

>>7923565
In case anyone wants this bag, here it is for $18. It'll be $16 during the 11/11 sale.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-Christmas-bags-Demon-Hebei-stereo-love-black-lace-personalized-angel-wings-backpack-female-devil/2031714014.html

>>7923680
This. Also, anyone who "took the plunge" is an idiot, even I knew these would be shit before even seeing the boxes.

[Anonymous No.7923685]

>>7923670
But it is cute anon.
It's cohesive and while it certainly isn't witch or mahou shoujo, it is a cute basic jfash outfit.
The plain beret does match, it could do with some decorating but it does fit the outfit.

>>7923676
The tail actually buttons on/off. I was pretty happy about that.
Luckily I have shoes/accessories that match already.

I wish people would stop ragging about it.
Yeah, we know it's shit, we went in assuming it would be shit but we did it because we were curious. Other anons would be mad about not ordering if it turned out nicely, but because it didn't they're sitting on a high-horse saying they didn't want it in the first place. Even though, you know, the whole first thread was anons talking about how they want to order it but only after someone else does.

>>7923680
So what if she's using our suggestions?
Maybe someone who orders in the future will get something nicer.

[Anonymous No.7923686]

>>7923676
>Can we stop ragging on anons who took the plunge to buy and come back here to show and review this stuff for us? We already know that the value isn't there, we basically had half of the last thread talking about how they are not doing the expensive shit for lower price kind of boxes.

It was obvious straight from the start it would be shit. Anyone who honestly wanted a review for anything but the lulz are out of their damn minds. It was funny thinking about dumb Tumblr weebs posting the crap they got but some of you honestly expected even a teeny chance at a good haul and thought it a wise investment to drop 100 bucks on that chance. Ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.7923691]

>>7923495
that glittery hairband on the top row is the cutest thing

[Anonymous No.7923692]

I think the biggest issue they are having is that people are going into this from a lolita point of view and they think they are getting a lucky pack (aka a good deal). These aren't a good deal. There should be no one expecting to get the value of their money.

They are capitalizing on the trend of subscription boxes in the US. Like all those healthy snack boxes that office workers buy because they don't have the time to go to health food stores and figure out what doesn't taste bad.

It's only a good deal if you have money, but no time, and aren't picky. Then the value is in paying someone to do your shopping.

The thing is, no one who actually is a lolita, or actually wears any of these styles needs that service because they can just buy brand from a SS for those prices.

[Anonymous No.7923693]

ITT: anons desperately trying to convince themselves that their $100 was well spent

go back to tumblr if you want asspats

[Anonymous No.7923694]

>>7923686
>mfw I make $100 in 3 hours

Is it seriously that much money for everyone to be bitching about it? Boxes are crap, the ones running it are crap, big fucking deal.

[Anonymous No.7923696]

>>7923680
But what's the point in saying "lol that shit ain't worth the money you spent" again and again? It contributes nothing new to the thread.

[Anonymous No.7923697]

>>7923537
Ooh, sorry I didn't think about that. I just love that store a little too much.

I think all the sources are on this one. The bag source is at the bottom.

[Anonymous No.7923699]

>>7923685
>>7923676
Samefag

[Anonymous No.7923703]

>>7923696
Who cares, ignore it if you don't want to hear it.

This isn't tumblr, if that's someone's opinion, you have to deal with it, even if it's not asspats.

[Anonymous No.7923708]

>>7923694
The majority of everyone here is a teen or early 20-something. The majority of everyone here is not yet established in career.

Congrats on making $30+ an hour, but that's not really the norm.

[Anonymous No.7923709]

>>7923703
This.

>expecting anything but a good group laugh by posting your hauls

[Anonymous No.7923710]

>>7923699
Oh noooo, two people have the same opinion.

[Anonymous No.7923714]

>>7923710
If not samefag
>multiple people using ragging
disgusting

[Anonymous No.7923727]

>>7923693
What are you smoking? No one said it was some awesome deal, just that it wasn't as bad as the other girls box.

[Anonymous No.7923732]

>>7923685
Yep so true
Can you say more about the wig? What kind of wig is it, is it decent quality?
The items you already own, what do you pay for them?

[Anonymous No.7923755]

>>7923732
I honestly don't remember what I paid for them, I got them in a haul a while back.

The wig was a bit greasy when I took it out of the bag, nothing too nasty, just needs a quick washing.
It's a deep red and it's about mid back length, surprisingly long. The ends are curled and the bangs are blunt cut.
I'm gonna soak it in fabric softener for a week or so to see if I can make it extra soft, the hair is cosplay-wig quality.

[Anonymous No.7923764]

>>7923755
Oh, forgot to type.
The tag says "Diana Andi" if that has any relevance. The cap itself is flesh tone so it looks more 'natural'.

[Anonymous No.7923778]

Someone should team up with Red Maria if they're going to an accessory box.

[Anonymous No.7923781]

>>7923778
I think I'm gonna steal this idea. Definitely has more potential because it's more inclusive, you dont have to worry about sizing and whatnot

[Anonymous No.7923828]

>>7923565
Oh hey I recognize that shirt from ToAlice, they're selling that for super cheap. So this cost you $120 (because of the wig) for what seems to be maybe $50 worth of stuff? That is insanely shit.

[Anonymous No.7923831]

>>7923778
Someone should contact a bunch of taobao, ask them for the items they couldn't sell well (unless its fugly) for a discount), then put those in the boxes.

[Anonymous No.7923919]

>>7923727
Are you kidding, everyone ITT keeps going on and on about how kawaii it is.

[Anonymous No.7923929]

>>7923919
I only see it from the girl who bought the box and another who's waiting for theirs. Both are fucking idiots.

[Anonymous No.7923938]

>>7923929
God forbid people enjoy what they bought.

[Anonymous No.7923943]

>>7923938
They willingly walked right into a painfully obvious trap. They aren't uneducated about the wonders of Taobao, it's fucking /cgl/, and they still fell for it.

[Anonymous No.7923945]

>>7923943
or they're just shit at coording and wanted to be adventurous

[Anonymous No.7923950]

I just looked at the site at the gyaru box
>agejo
>glam(just agejo again)
>onee

That's fucking it? Seriously?

[Anonymous No.7923951]

>>7923945
someone sent me an email saying they are a nigerian prince and they need help accessing their inheritance money, I think im gonna be adventurous and go for it, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.7923958]

>>7923945
If they're shit at coording they're not going to get better with this shit.

[Anonymous No.7924059]

>>7923336
This is my reason as well.

[Anonymous No.7924158]

>>7923495
I need the astrology tights like nobody's business

[Anonymous No.7924164]

>>7924158
Person who owns them here. They are itchy as fuck.

>>7923945
Hey do you know the cgl coord thread is free? Maybe cgl should charge a fee of $50. You will get your sense of adventure being shit talked and laughed at by seagulls. totemo worth your monie desu.

[Anonymous No.7924165]

>>7924164
>Maybe cgl should charge a fee of $50.
And then we can start charging $19/month to look shit up on google.

[Anonymous No.7924170]

>>7924165
$29/month to answer question about
>SS/ Taobao/Aliexpress,
>WHERE TO FIND BURANDO
>is Taobao legit hurrr durr why is burando so expensive hurr durrr im so new spoonfeed me

Maybe that Cat Tarot spammer girl is on to something here. If you're going to answer stupid questions you might as well get paid doing it.

[Anonymous No.7924293]

>>7923408
http://tw.taobao.com/item/41977021410.htm?fromSite=main

[Anonymous No.7924310]

easy idol box

[Anonymous No.7924314]

>>7923697
this is so cute. Might work with mori, I think

[Anonymous No.7924702]

>>7924164
Is not like you can go to the coord thread and say "make me a whole outfit and tell me where to buy all the pieces, thanks"

[Anonymous No.7924707]

>>7923929
I'm waiting for mine and all I said was that it's not as bad as the other girl's.

[Anonymous No.7924754]

>>7924702
You could always pick a theme, find one item that matches it and try asking "I was thinking of making a so-and-so-themed outfit using this piece, anyone knows where I can find accessories/blouse/whatever to match?". Maybe they won't spoonfeed you ALL the pieces but it's still better than paying 100$ for crap.

[Anonymous No.7924762]

>>7923697
Hey girl don't worry about it, tights are def still a great idea, just have to have tall/plus sized options as well.

Meanwhile I'm into Mori and I'm in love with all of this.

[Anonymous No.7924803]

>>7924707
Are you >>7923639?
>Well shit this is really cute. I'm more hopeful for my box now

[[e-mail] No.7924806]

>>7924803
Yes. I guess I could have typed it better, I was on my phone. All I said is that it was cute and I was more hopeful. I didn't say that it was some amazing deal.
Look at it like this, if I got a magical girl box and I got the first girl's box I would feel really ripped off and disappointed. If I got the box in this thread, I would still feel ripped off, but not as much, because hers is cuter.
Either way I know I'm going to lose out, I just want to lose as little as possible. It's kind of like going to las vegas. I know it's a gamble, at this point I just want something kind of cute and wearable.

[Anonymous No.7924808]

I absolutely can't wait for when people start up with the accessory service. I'm always looking to add to that part of my wardrobe (which is always somewhat lacking) Does anyone know when people plan to start it up? It'd be perfect for the Christmas season!!

[Anonymous No.7924851]

>>7924702
Step 1: Don't be a lazy shit and learn how to fashion
Step 2: Try to come up with something interesting (theme or color scheme), post coord to help thread
Step 3: Get concrit and free insults, come out with more decent outfit ideas.

It's not that hard, really.

[Anonymous No.7924865]

>>7924851
Different anon, I tried this once in my ita days. I got a bunch of insults, so I tried to just learn more by myself. I ended way overpaying for secondhand brand and still showed up in the ita thread months later. It took me a long time to grasp the basics of lolita, so I can see the appeal in paying $200 to have it done for you right away. I think most noobs make mistakes that total way above $200.

I'm not trying to justify Gensobox expense, it's just you guys make it seem really easy and it's not. It takes a lot of time to grasp even the fundamentals of a style, and almost everyone I've seen beginning a new style has inevitably wasted money on poor coordination decisions or not understanding the fit of a brand or its color quirks. Bodyline pink is more salmon pink then brand pink, do you really expect every noob to know that? That APs' wine red from one series doesn't match the same from even another AP series? That puffy sleeve blouses make broad shouldered girls look like line backers? It's obvious to me now, but it took literally years to learn all this. Someone who knows all those little quirks and can navigate the fashion for you would be a tremendous asset.
Sure, having it spoonfed to you in the beginning won't help you coord later. But how many people try out a Jfashion only to find it doesn't suit them at all? If I could avoid doing weeks of research and a few purchase mistakes just to even try a style out, and I knew I would get a decent coord out of it, I would jump at the chance.

I'd say it takes weeks to grasp a style and understand it enough to make an outfit. Not an afternoon of googling and asking /cgl/ like you guys are pretending. I can see the appeal of these boxes, I just wish they did a better job. Would $20 profit have been too little? $30? I think that's a reasonable fee to pay for this service, if they did a decent job at it.

[Anonymous No.7924873]

>>7924314
>>7924762
Mori is definitely what I was thinking for it, although I have to say I don't actually wear any j fashion myself. Mori's my dream though. I did put some plus sized tights in >>7923778 although they aren't as cute. Putting together these collages is so much fun, haha.

[Anonymous No.7924881]

>>7924808
It's not like it actually takes time and effort to start a business or anything...

[Anonymous No.7924907]

>shitbox
>not kusobox
>2weeb4cgl

[Anonymous No.7925034]

I'm the girl who bought the mahou shoujo box from the previous thread >>7917965

I finally had a chance to take proper photos and actually tried on all the clothes. I am most likely just going to send everything back because I'm very unhappy with the entire thing. No, I didn't buy it just to be risky - I bought it because I genuinely believed that Gensobox would be a great idea for people who want to try out different styles of jfashion. I wear otome/lolita a majority of the time and REALLY wanted to get into the more brighter/fun styles of jfashion.

Here's a quick photo of some of the items worn (seifuku top, skirt, brooch, mu-fish tights). I tried to make it look more "magical girl" but it isn't doing anything for me. The seifuku is all polyester and incredibly uncomfortable.

I'll try and have the review finished by tonight

[Anonymous No.7925040]

>>7925034
Andd tucked in. I've no idea how to wear this thing

[Anonymous No.7925056]

>>7924865
You have to really do your research, that's what most people fail to do. And as I said, learning the basics of fashion in general is essential, because it means that you already know that puffed sleeves are no good on broad shoulders, which cuts flatter your body type, which colors go together, and other important things, which are not specific to lolita.

And really, it's the exact same way with other fashion styles. If you buy two navy pieces from different brands or lines, they might be completely different shades. You might not know which exact AP pieces have which undertones in person, but if you know how to coordinate colors, you can deal with it if you realize that two pieces don't match.

If you're really interested in trying something, then you shouldn't be too lazy to learn about it, imo. It does takes weeks, none was talking about an afternoon. But if you see a single picture of lolita and just start buying shit without thinking, then that's stupid anyway. If you're just starting out, you probably don't know what you like, which is part of why research is important.

I can see the appeal as well, but it would be more fun to get a blind box if you just need wardrobe padding, not as a total beginner.

[Anonymous No.7925057]

>>7925034
If it's any consolation anon, I think it looks cute on you. Throw your hair in twin curls with some purple accessories and you'd look like a magical girl to me.

But yeah. Just open a claim and send it back. Then disgusting stolen hoodie and fake sailor gear goes against everything they were harping about lol

[Anonymous No.7925061]

>>7925034
Yeah man. I'm not feeling it.

[Anonymous No.7925063]

>>7925034
Oh man, the material looks like paper.

[Anonymous No.7925069]

>>7924865
Had a similar experience as this anon, but it wasn't so much coordinating as seeing what style suited me. It took years to realize the lolita silhouette didn't suit me nearly as much as otome and I'm really lucky it only took me one dress and a skirt to realize this. A lot of people spend a lot hopping styles because they obviously want to look they're best, but it just doesn't change what suits you personally.

I totally agree that the reality of Gensobox is crap--and it's crap you could get cheap on eBay and CHEAPER on taobao--but the concept itself isn't awful.

[Anonymous No.7925075]

>>7925063
their* dang

[Anonymous No.7925081]

>>7925069
Their best* dang

[Anonymous No.7925092]

>>7925057
Thank you! Finding out about the hoodie was probably the most upsetting thing about the entire package.

>>7925061
>>7925063
Yep the material does not drape well on the body at all...

[Anonymous No.7925118]

>>7925034
Send it back! I bought gensobox for the same reason and I hoped they'd at least have some proficiency in making coords. But it looks like they didn't care at all.

[Anonymous No.7925124]

>>7925069
I mean, if you are a normalfag and want to find out what suits you, you can hire fashion consultants.. You can even just go to certain stores and the sales assistants will help you out.
There's not really anything like that for Jfashion. All you can really do is do hours of research online, and buy things that may or not work and try a bunch of different styles and hope something turns out okay.

[Anonymous No.7925128]

Ughh I love how they are being all disingenuous about the stolen art on twitter. All their shit is cheap crap from China, of course it's going to be fucking stolen? It wasn't even just the hoodie, it was the Sailor Moon necklace too.

[Anonymous No.7925147]

>>7925034
>I bought it because I genuinely believed that Gensobox would be a great idea for people who want to try out different styles of jfashion

>outing yourself as a retard on /cgl/
We have constant taobao threads and more than enough help on understanding different styles. Hell, there's even spreadsheets that list which shops are good for each style. No one here should need to pay for someone to hold their hand.

[Anonymous No.7925156]

>>7925147
Not that anon, but why are you so sandy? If gensobox actually did what it said, it would be a great deal for busy people instead of spending hours and hours doing research on cgl and taobao. Not everyone works 20 hours a week making minimum wage, get over it.

[Anonymous No.7925163]

>>7925147

[Anonymous No.7925175]

All the people getting mad is making me think.. What are your thoughts on people who buy from retail stores like Aldo or Express? The markup on regular retail items is about the same as Gensobox, right?
You can get that stuff cheaper on taobao. Do you think it's ignorance? convenience? willful ignorance? Does anybody from cgl buy all their stuff on taobao? I've always been fascinated by the idea but for various reasons I don't think I''d do it.

[Anonymous No.7925189]

>>7925175
it's really not as hard as you think it is. You just have to put some time into it. the taobao thread has a lot of useful resources

[Anonymous No.7925221]

>>7923478
>Let's take bets on how long it will take for someone to incorporate a mitre into a lolita outfit.

I'm on it

[Anonymous No.7925225]

>>7923495
yes very much so

[Anonymous No.7925228]

>>7925175
They sent out pure shit, and charged enough money that they could have afforded much better, that's why people are mad. There's plenty of stuff on TaoBao that is cheap but not trash.

[Anonymous No.7925238]

>>7925034
I posted the review on my tumblr if anyone wants to read it.
http://meltysea.tumblr.com/post/102139550562/last-week-i-finally-received-my-long-awaited

>>7925147
It's not about anyone holding my hand. It took me two years to "perfect" lolita, and I just don't have the time or the money to go out and do the same amount of intensive research for a fashion style that I may or may not like. If it's easily bundled up in one box, why the hell not?

[Anonymous No.7925239]

>>7925156
>>7925163
I really want for this trend of calling everyone with an opposing point of view "sandy" and "salty" to stop.

[Anonymous No.7925400]

>>7925238
wait. so the hoodie was the free item, you only got 3/4 of the actual items, and they didn't give you this so called style guide? just the seifuku, the bloomers, the necklace and brooch could have only cost them $30 at most!! that's a fucking $60 profit right there. the least they could have done was actually give you wearable things, wtf?!

[Anonymous No.7925408]

>>7925239
And people in Hell want ice water.

[Anonymous No.7925418]

>>7925175
The major difference between buying on taobao and from retail stores is that you can actually go to Aldo/Express/etc and try things on. Yes it's stupid if you're paying full price for a lot of their items, but many people are willing to pay for that convenience of making completely sure something will fit before buying it. There's also a point to be made re: people not realizing that they need to make a decently sized order to save money on taobao but I'm too lazy to make it.

But I think convenience is a big driver, especially for women who are in that middle ground of sizing- they may not be large by western standards but if you have a weird body shape then you will be more cautious about buying things that you can't/would be hard to return.

>be pear shaped as fuck but thin on top
>having to pass over cute shorts that could go with the tops in my cart
>thepainisreal.jpg

don't really think buying off taobao makes me smarter or anything. I'm not sure if you mean to sound like a douche but you're kinda getting there.

And are the markups equivalent? I've never really thought about it to be honest.

[Anonymous No.7925435]

>>7925238
> It took me two years to "perfect" lolita

were you incapable of dressing yourself in normalfag clothes, too? Two years is a long ass time.

[Anonymous No.7925451]

>>7925239
then stop being so salty you fucking sandy cunt jfc

[Anonymous No.7925463]

>>7925040
It doesn't go together, that type of shirt doesn't work well with the high-waist skirt.

[Anonymous No.7925465]

>>7925128
They said on tumblr they would NOT include counterfeit or bootleg items.

[Anonymous No.7925480]

>>7925400
Correct. I did not receive my magic wand or my style guide, and my free item was stolen artwork.

>>7925435
I wasn't lucky when I started wearing lolita. I bounced around styles but yes, it took me 2 years to finally have a cohesive wardrobe and have enough blouses, main pieces, bags, and shoes to create multiple coords for one dress.

>>7925463
That's what I figured, but the skirt has a cute yoke so I wanted to show that part off.

[Anonymous No.7925493]

>>7925408
>>7925451
Surely you got me :^)

[Anonymous No.7925515]

~*no idea*~

[Anonymous No.7925523]

>>7925515
The same fucking sweater also had stolen artwork from BTSSB. Really?!

[Anonymous No.7925525]

>>7925515
WHAT ABOUT THE FUCKING CLEARLY KNOCKOFF MLP AND SAILORMOON ITEMS?

Yes I mad! Do they really seriously fucking think that china would have licenses for fucking sailor moon shit?

Can someone who's not involved report to paypal? I fucking will buy a damn box if I have to.

[Anonymous No.7925527]

>>7925523
There's also some likely stolen sailormoon fanart. Also, do you know if that one with the cute loli is stolen? I really want that design but I don't want to steal it.

[Anonymous No.7925554]

>>7925527
Did you really need to ask this question multiple times? Use some fucking common sense, anon. There's a 99% chance that art was stolen, and even if it wasn't you're still going to be supporting someone who profits off of stolen art. Have some fucking integrity, it's not like this weeby shit is hard to come by.

[Anonymous No.7925565]

>>7925525
they could have easily purchased sailor moon (or any mahou shoujo anime) inspired accessories from etsy. I know kyandi is kind of a shitshow, but they even quoted her as an inspiration for mahou-kei

[Anonymous No.7925585]

>>7925238
>>7925034

I'm reporting you for libel.

[Anonymous No.7925586]

>>7925585

[Anonymous No.7925589]

>>7925554
I didn't ask more than once, this is my first time. I also wanted to find the original artist. I'm not wanting to buy that from them specifically either. It was more a question of where than is it. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.7925605]

>>7925585
correct me if i'm wrong, but how is it libel if it's the truth?

[Anonymous No.7925657]

>>7925605
Libel is a form of defamation, which applies to any defamatory statement and can be sued upon. There is a defence of truth available for anyone who is sued, as long as they can meet the criteria for the defence. Basically, the plaintiff (>>7925585 in this case) will sue for libel and the defendant (>>7925238) will have the defence available.

[Anonymous No.7925661]

>>7925585
So you're Gensobox, then?

[Anonymous No.7925669]

>>7925515
Are you kidding me now.
You are getting Taobao orders from China. China. That's where most knock offs come from and are created every second of every day and you're telling us you didn't know? You know what you were putting in those boxes.

[Anonymous No.7925688]

>>7925657
If I'm not mistaken, under tort law libel would have to be FALSE information that is purposely being used to negatively bring down someone's reputation, no? Nothing false was stated in the review. And wouldn't GensoBox has strict liability over the items being sent?

[Anonymous No.7925696]

>>7925688
If anything Genso box would be liable for false advertising since they explicitly said they wouldn't be selling fakes.

You can pretty much sell all the "replicas" you want as long as you don't try to claim they're the real deal.

And yes, the only possible way anon could be liable for libel would be if A) her claims were false as you said and/or B)If she had made some sort of deal with Genso box

niether of which they have on her.

[Anonymous No.7925699]

>>7925688
I just checked my legal dictionary since the distinction between libel and slander is not really used anymore where I live. Libel is simply a form of defamatory publication that is done in a way that's permanent (i.e. recorded, printed, etc.). The falsity of the statement doesn't come into a libel suit or any other defamation suit until the defences, so while it would be something to consider when thinking about whether it is worthwhile to sue someone, it doesn't bar you from suing them.

[Anonymous No.7925702]

>>7925696
It would be questionable whether they had falsely advertised though, since they said they wouldn't contain replicas in reply to an ask on tumblr, not through their direct advertising. I'm not American so it probably wouldn't hold up under the consumer laws where I live, but I don't know about the US

[Anonymous No.7925704]

>>7925699
Anon's review falls under free-speech though.

Just because they 'can' bring up a case, doesn't mean they have any grounds to win. If anon was harrassing or being over zealeous, then sure, but she's not.

[Anonymous No.7925705]

>>7925704
I never said they would win. All I said was that they could sue, because the fact that it's false doesn't come into the ability to make out a suit for defamation

[Anonymous No.7925710]

>>7925704
Also in this case the defence of honest opinion or perhaps qualified privilege may be more appropriate.

[Anonymous No.7925713]

>>7925585
lol, nice try gensobox

[Anonymous No.7925717]

>>7925696
defamation is the assertion of fact, not opinions though. if you said "GensoBox only sells counterfeits" or "GensoBox supports art theft" you will be liable for those statements as they are no longer opinions but listed as facts

[Anonymous No.7925724]

>>7925717
so when are you shutting gensobox down, before or after you start a lawsuit?

[Anonymous No.7925732]

>>7925724
man im not gensobox, im just trying to have a discussion about libel and personal liability. gensobox didn't say they were selling the fakes as originals

[Anonymous No.7925740]

>>7925585
This has to be a troll, the people running Gensobox couldn't possibly be this stupid.

...right?

[Anonymous No.7925751]

>>7925740
If you haven't noticed, people on 4chan say a lot of things that may or may not be true

[Anonymous No.7925752]

>>7925732
But they specifically said that they didn't sell fakes in their boxes, which implies that they were passing off the "fakes" as the real deal. If you are going to make such a strong statement as that you cannot go back on it and have to research each and every item you order.

[Anonymous No.7925755]

>>7925751

[Anonymous No.7925762]

>>7925732
They explicitly said they would not be selling replicas. They may as well be saying they are only selling original/official merchandise.

Ex: a shop is selling some bunnybunny merchandise, customer asks "Do you sell replicas?" the shop replies "No of couse we don't!" and sells the customer the item. The customer looks at the item and notices that it's clearly a fake, and is in packaging which claims it's bunnybunny merch. The customer goes back to the store and they brush it off with "whoops! we had no clue!" despite clearly having bought the item from a country outside of where official bunnybunny is not produced.

Legally the store would still be responsible. You can't just pretend you didn't sell a replica/fake item. Cops and legal system don't give a shit, and the official company would have grounds to sue the store.

[Anonymous No.7925772]

>>7925752
>>7925762
If anything, that's a breach of contract, provided that the plaintiff would be able to show that 'no replicas' was a term of the contract and/or that their statement influenced them to buy the produce to a material extent.

The copyright/trademark holders would sue separately under copyright laws, a completely different cause of action.

[Anonymous No.7925778]

>>7921609
Well there are people who are personal shoppers for a living for people who are to busy to go out and buy their own clothes.
They ask what their style is and have them describe it, look at pieces they already own, then use that to buy a big range of clothes for them. Then the person looks through them and picks out everything they want to keep.

[Anonymous No.7925780]

>>7925772
You idiot. You don't even need that. It's illegal to sell fakes knowingly or unknowingly. Knowingly gets your shut down and unknowingly gets customers their money back.

This is that fucking simple.

[Anonymous No.7925790]

>>7925752
>>7925762
Am I not seeing the same thing you guys are?

>2. Will the Lolita boxes contain Bodyline or print replicas?
>
>We will not send Bodyline or print replicas in any of our Lolita boxes.

It looks like PRINTED replicas is the only thing they said the boxes will not contain

[Anonymous No.7925794]

>>7925780
Only if you're passing them off as real. Which I don't think they *technically* did when they were selling them

[Anonymous No.7925797]

>>7925790
It's still illegal to sell fakes which are clearly labeled as being from X series and company.

It wasn't a "original" design which was in packaging stating "Magical Moon Girl Magic Key Necklace!!!!!!111!!!11!"

[Anonymous No.7925800]

>>7925778
I personally think that what people are talking about itt is a project that goes on a much bigger scale. I can see this kind of stuff working in normalfag fashion, but in something like jfash or lolita it might require more dedication and communication with customers, and if you have a lot of people trying to get personalized hauls, you also need a decent amount of people helping you, who are equally knowledgeable on the fashion.

And what I just described was the idea behind Gensobox, which ended up flopping royally, simply because it turns out that the people ordering those boxes had a grasp of jfashion and lolita, and are receiving mediocre products in return.

I agree with >>7921609. This really doesn't seem like a good idea overall.

[Anonymous No.7925802]

>>7925794
It is still illegal to do it unknowingly, you have to stop or you'll get in a shit ton more trouble. Most times buyers are given a choice to get their money back anyways.

[Anonymous No.7925804]

>>7925780
It would be the copyright owners who pursue the lawsuit. It's not up to the cops to deal with this, it's for whoever has the rights to the images and real products. There's no guarantee that they will do anything about it. The buyer could file their own suit against gensobox, but given it's only $100 it really wouldn't be worth it.

[Anonymous No.7925813]

>>7925175
For me it's because I don't really like ordering clothing online, especially from places as Taobao since I know they would fit poorly on me. In the case of Lolita, well I don't have any physical stores nearby to go and try the clothes on, so I have to go with my measurements and only hope for the best.

I know I could get stuff for a cheaper price online, but I also know that it's a gamble. I -need- to see the clothing I'm going to wear, and more importantly I need to try it on so I can see how it fits me. Otherwise I might end up with a bunch of clothing that is nothing but a waste of money, cheap or not.

So overall, except for lolita, I don't like buying clothes/shoes online.

[Anonymous No.7925816]

>>7923060
Anon this is great, good job!

[Anonymous No.7925817]

>>7925804
Not saying it would, I'm saying anon isn't liabel for shit and if anyone would be it's GB

[Anonymous No.7925818]

>>7925525
>MLP
just because it's a pony/unicorn doesn't mean it's mlp. you're not the first one to say that, so i feel inclined to point that out.
though it IS still stolen artwork from the girl who owns tasty peach studios

[Anonymous No.7925820]

>>7925813
>For me it's because I don't really like ordering clothing online, especially from places as Taobao since I know they would fit poorly on me.
You're not the only one. It's fine if you're a rectangular-shaped Asian girl, but I'm small but pear shaped and even tops don't fit me right.

[Anonymous No.7925821]

>>7923256
But that's like, the best thing

>if it's gothic it's gotta be crosses, right?

[Anonymous No.7925823]

>>7925817
I never said she would be liable either...?

[Anonymous No.7925826]

>>7925820
My problem is my chest. I have a small waist but a big chest, and sometimes not even normalfag tops fit me, so I don't even try with Asian stores since I know the type of body they're designed for are way tinier than me.

[Anonymous No.7925827]

>>7925804
No, but paypal will freeze the fuck out of their accounts and offer them refunds. It has nothing to do with copyright or not within the law, it's the paypal ToS.

[Anonymous No.7925830]

>>7925826
I have problems with my chest too, especially with shirts and blouses that button up. They'll either fit around my tits and (if I'm luck) my hips, but be way too big around my waist, or they won't fit at all.

[Anonymous No.7925832]

>>7925823
I think people are getting confused because someone said review-anon is liable because of libel, but then other people are refuting it, and some are saying both are liable

i highly doubt gensobox is going to sue anyways

[Anonymous No.7925835]

>>7925832
I don't think anyone ever said she was liable, just that they COULD sue for defamation (but she'd have a defence or two). The possibility of being a defendant for a defamation charge and being liable for defamation charge aren't necessarily the same thing.

[Anonymous No.7925846]

>>7925585

[Anonymous No.7925852]

>>7925818
Does Tasty Peach Studios know her artwork was stolen?

[Anonymous No.7925853]

I just noticed going through their tumblr asks that they said they may include rilakkuma items, which are obivously fake if they're from china. Wat the fuck?

[Anonymous No.7925866]

Their website is down 'for maintenance'

[Anonymous No.7925870]

>>7925866

[Anonymous No.7925876]

>>7925866
Oh boy!

[Anonymous No.7925881]

>>7925866
coincidence?

[Anonymous No.7925887]

>>7925866
I am not even surprised. I wouldn't even be surprised if they delivered all the boxes and then shut down.

[Anonymous No.7925889]

>>7925887
I wouldn't be surprised if they shut down without delivering the boxes.

[Anonymous No.7925896]

Did we ever find out for sure who was running it? I'm curious to see if the owners put something on their pages.

[Anonymous No.7925900]

>>7925790
They did sell a print replica, on the hooded sweatshirt. That is an item printed with a replica.

[Anonymous No.7925903]

>>7925866
there's a topic on rufflechat!

>Paypal sided in my favor and is allowing me to return all the items back for a full refund. So if anyone has ordered one and is unsatisfied with the quality of the items, you're not out of your money!

soooooo who's willing to bet they immediately cashed out their money and bought a shitton of lolita and now they're scrambling around for refunds??

[Anonymous No.7925905]

>>7925790
>lolita boxes
Well the anon got a mahou shoujo box. Maybe they will claim that:
>'We said no replicas for our lolita boxes only!'
>'Doesn't apply to mahou shoujo!!'
>'we only claimed 'You can’t fight crime in cosplay!'' and doesn't mean we won't send you cosplays

[Anonymous No.7925909]

>>7925790
There was a different question, anon. That was for Lolita specifically. Someone posted it in the old thread. >>7918277

[Anonymous No.7925912]

>>7925903
That's so good. I wonder why they took the site down.

Fucked up.

[Anonymous No.7925914]

>>7925909
But that question is also about lolita boxes
>Are you planning on using taobao brands or other offbrand options for the lolita box?
>lolita box

Idk man. Idk if they're purposely being sneaky by only associating replicas with lolita and not their other boxes.

[Anonymous No.7925915]

>>7925903
Fuck that, they'll just cut and run with no way for PayPal to recoup funds

[Anonymous No.7925919]

>>7925914
Their reply was "Our boxes" though so...

I doubt they're trying to be sneaky, just lying out the ass.

[Anonymous No.7925920]

What a fucking disaster lol

a weeb and her money are easily parted for mahou shoujo

[Anonymous No.7925923]

>>7925915
Paypal will freeze the account soon enough and stop them from taking out any money(if any is left) and then repay everyone out of pocket and ban whoever's SSN used for the account.

[Anonymous No.7925929]

>>7925919
Ehhh I just assumed that "our box" was still relating to the lolita boxes... but I can see how the term COULD be generalized

Still think they're sneaky as shit so I still think this was done intentionally

>>7925920
If the weeb dresses like this they can be a weeb for me any day~

[Anonymous No.7925939]

Their website infuriates me

[Anonymous No.7925945]

>>7925939
>that face 'loading screen' that has to load every time and takes longer than the pages to load

[Anonymous No.7925950]

>>7925435
some people just dont have the time or funds to dedicate to lolita and build a good wardrobe straight away, it's taken me almost 6 years to get out of my ita phase soley because i just didnt wear it. hell i still have drughoney shit in my wardrobe i want to get rid of, and afaik that trainwreck of a store closed down at least 4 years ago.

[Anonymous No.7925955]

>>7925945
Just fucking kill me.

[Anonymous No.7925957]

>>7925903
got caps?

[Anonymous No.7925968]

Is it Sam and Obasu that are running this? Are they saying anything on FB? I don't know Sam's name to check.

[Anonymous No.7925983]

>>7925968
>Sam
An anon in the last thread said she posted something a few weeks ago about "starting a site and drama" right after a thread was up and going here.

[Anonymous No.7925992]

>>7925968
Are they from Scottsdale, AZ? Cause that's where their "headquarters" are

[Anonymous No.7925996]

>>7925968
>>7925992
I dug and found them on FB. They're both from Scottsdale. I got their names from an old cgl thread. If it is them, they aren't talking about it. (But I'm not friends with them on FB) I haven't found their tumblrs yet.

[Anonymous No.7926002]

>>7925996
If Obasu is the person I think she is, she looks like a huge weeb.
Please bare in mind that I have no proof that they are running it, just the anecdotal stuff that was posted in previous threads along with their names.

[Anonymous No.7926004]

>>7926002
>bare
*bear

Sage for spelling.

[Anonymous No.7926010]

>>7925923
This, plus PP will still put their account into the negative for every penny and then that will get put into Collections who will be on their ass until they pay it off.

This is so delicious.

[Anonymous No.7926013]

>>7925996
I found Obasu's tumblr: http://paigeq.tumblr.com/
She doesn't really post about gensobox though save for one reblog of their giveaway.

>>7926002
>If Obasu is the person I think she is, she looks like a huge weeb.
Well judging from her tumblr it seems she is. What's wrong with that though?

>huge weeb here

[Anonymous No.7926018]

>>7926010
If they did things correctly them PayPal won't be able to get their hooks in. Since I doubt they are professional scammers so they probably haven't. Then again we all remember Maiko dolly and how that went, don't we ?

[ei666shii !otnRSDkuZA No.7926022]

>>7926002
>>7926013
I've been following Obasu for awhile and see no evidence that she's affiliated with gensobox

[Anonymous No.7926025]

>>7926022
Their site's down right now, but there was this: http://gensobox.com/meet-gensobox-obasu/

[Anonymous No.7926032]

>>7925688
ITT: Internet lawyers

[Anonymous No.7926037]

>>7926018
Damn seriously? It seemed like PP could always find a way to get it back with the right proof.

Did the MaikoDolly thing never get resolved? There was so much evidence to go to the police with that, what the hell happened?

[Anonymous No.7926051]

>>7926037
she didn't pay everyone back

also yeah, a good scammer will be untouchable and paypal may or may not pay you back out of their pocket. they used to never but I guess that changed? if they can send someone to collections then maybe you get money back but if the other person vanishes (and if done right you can) then they might not

[Anonymous No.7926052]

>>7926037
pp will always refund buyers. But it is possible to set up an account, scam people and leave pp in the dust with no real information on you and they will have to refund the buyers out of their pockets. I really don't think that's what is happening here at all, people are just talking shit and speculating.

[Anonymous No.7926054]

>>7926013
Nothing wrong with huge weebs usually. Some of them dont have the greatest sense of fashion when it comes to actual fashion styles (think of the number of itas in the weeb category). Since she's running a business that is advertised as fashion, (if she is part of it), it would be to her credit to not dress like a typical weeb. I've only seen a few pictures of her, and they weren't very inspiring fashion-wise.

>I sound like an ass.
It's just my communication skills failing me at 4:00am. I'm a weeb myself with hobbies, but I don't dress like a stereotypical weeb? I guess I mean weeb fashion (or lack there of).
>weeb has ceased to have meaning since I said it so much

[Anonymous No.7926055]

>>7926051
PP will sometimes send buyers courtesy refunds out of their own pockets if you call in and speak to someone. I had to do this when I bought something from wholesale-dress before I knew about taobao or /cgl/ or anything and it ended up being a box of garbage (for example I ordered some black arm warmers. They only sent me 1 arm warmer, like for a single arm, and it was brown striped). The paypal claim was decided in their favor, not mine, so I called in super furious, and PP refunded me.

[Anonymous No.7926064]

>>7926013
>>7926054
I'm completely retarded. I was looking at a different person than http://paigeq.tumblr.com/

>Obasu is not an obese weeb with greasy black hair.

It's time for me to go to bad. Obasu, if you are reading this, I'm so sorry. Please disregard my retarded mistake.

[Anonymous No.7926065]

>>7926064
*Go to bed
I QUIT.

[Anonymous No.7926067]

>>7926055
Well the maikodolly case was different because she bought items and then issued chargebacks, paypal doesn't have any authority to refund you from that. If you need a refund as a buyer though, they always pay out of pocket if the seller is in negative and then either bug the seller till they pay them back or freeze the account.

[Anonymous No.7926076]

>>7926055
if it's a lot of angry buyers with no available funds to draw from the other side i'd expect paypal not to do shit. companies like doing exceptions here or there to make you feel cool but a whole slew of them? it'd probably take a higher level authority to do that. first few might get them but after that they notice and go hmmm

[Anonymous No.7926114]

>>7926055
Just throwing in my pp experience here, I only ever opened a case once through an item I bought on ebay. I didn't really know what I had to do but ebay prompted me to fill out something through paypal directly instead of ebay doing something about the problem first. I bought 2 items from separately listings from the same seller and each item was suppose to come with a smaller side item but instead of sending me 2 items and 2 smaller items the seller decided to cheap out on me and only sent me 1 of the side items. The seller already saves on shipping (because free shipping for me anyways) 2 separate items but decides to cheat me out of something because I bought more from them?

I contacted the seller first and waited for a few days (maybe a week?) but no reply. So I opened a case for ONE of the listings because imo they had fulfilled the sending requirements for the other. After waiting a while I get a message from pp telling me that they had ruled in the seller's favor. They didn't even give me a reason that the seller provided them with. All I could do was go back to ebay and give the seller a low rating.

It's like paying for burger and fries and not getting the fries. This made me distrust pp's buyer's protection.

[Anonymous No.7926130]

>>7925565
>I know kyandi is kind of a shitshow
details please?

[Anonymous No.7926166]

>>7923697
Name the price and I will buy this from you if you change the acorn necklace and the starwberry studs.

[Anonymous No.7926237]

>>7925866

i wonder if that's related to 4chan attacking them for 3 straight weeks

[Anonymous No.7926238]

>>7926237
Right, like anyone gives a shit on here or has the capabilities to DDOS their stupid website. Nice try, Sam.

[Anonymous No.7926241]

Found definitive proof that Sam is behind this crapshoot. Whois gensobox.com shows her email account, name, address, etc. It's linked to an apartment in Scottsdale.

[Anonymous No.7926244]

>>7926241
Show don't only tell

[Anonymous No.7926246]

>>7926237
>criticizing their business plan
>"attacking"

[Anonymous No.7926248]

>>7926244
Are you seriously too lazy to google "whois gensobox.com"? Let me just post a screenshot so that mods can ban me because they don't understand the difference between publicly available information and "doxxing".

[Anonymous No.7926260]

>>7925493
>that emoticon
Go back to tumblr with that shit.

[Anonymous No.7926336]

>>7926260
Are you new??

[Anonymous No.7926357]

>>7925034
Is that a scratching post? Where did you get it? It's super cute.

[Anonymous No.7926359]

Looks like a lot of posts about the business owners of gensobox were deleted. They're in the archives if anyone wants to check.

[Anonymous No.7926364]

>>7926359
Fucking janitors

[Anonymous No.7926369]

>>7926260
:^)

[Anonymous No.7926393]

>>7923326
There are a ton of gothic coords that don't utilize cross motifs, anon.

[Anonymous No.7926399]

>>7926130
Look up anti-kyandi on tumblr. She has so much baggage.

[Anonymous No.7926485]

>>7926166
The strawberries are pins, anon! But I don't really have any interest in selling an accessory box, it's just fine to make examples of what it could be.

[Anonymous No.7926500]

Holy shit the janitor is stupid. MaikoDolly stuff was deleted why? It's not even anyone's name and actually just scammer shit. I'm glad there's no real scamming issues right now.

[Anonymous No.7926503]

>>7926369
>"I don't like thing"
>"lol i did thing you don't like"

Truly, you're a master of comedy.

[Anonymous No.7926515]

>>7926503
How new can you possibly be, this thing only started up within the last few months. Also it's not from tumblr, it's le kinky smile from /s4s/

4chan approved :^)

[Anonymous No.7926519]

>>7926500
we're totes singling her out amirite

[Anonymous No.7926525]

>>7926515
Been here for years. Doesn't mean I have to like an emoticon.

As far as I'm concerned, you might as well be slathering xD all over the place.

Sage, because this contributes nothing to the actual topic of the thread.

[Anonymous No.7926530]

>>7926525
much like the fabled "your resistance only makes my penis harder," when someone dislikes an emoticon that just makes others want to use it even more

[Anonymous No.7926541]

>>7926500
This proves that the janitors are newfags, because if they were here during that debacle, they would know that moot himself okay-d talking about maikodolly

[Anonymous No.7926566]

>>7926541
Seriously. This gensobox stuff is actually important to be discussing because while it's not scamming in the same way, it is a rip off and people are clearly wanting/getting their money back.

>>7926519
Oh yes. The poor dear, getting bullied on 4chan. But remember, even finchy herself sided with her being "oh so innocent" so I guess she's the jani.

[Anonymous No.7926591]

>>7921350
thread on 8 chan because janitor-chan keeps deleting stuff.

[Anonymous No.7926660]

>>7926114
You probably forgot to escalate the case

[Anonymous No.7926675]

>>7926660
I just say this because I've won so many cases I shouldn't have because the buyers were dumbshits and didn't do really simple shit. It's really not that hard, but 99% of people who use PayPal don't even understand their basic protections so they lose and then whine about how "unfair" PayPal is because they can't follow a very simple procedure

[Anonymous No.7926848]

>>7925585
Please do, even though you are trolling. Nothing I stated in my review was false and others were already speculative about the idea

>>7925852
I messaged her on deviantart to let her know. Basically more than half of my starter kit were counterfeits and stolen artwork

>>7926357
It is! My old job sold them but they weren't very popular. If you're located in the Bay Area, check out Pet Food Express - I think they still have a limited stock that are 50% off

[Anonymous No.7926872]

>>7925585
>all the people taking this joke seriously

Step the fuck up, /cgl/

[Anonymous No.7926879]

>>7923283
I like the included nail polish, it's a nice touch you don't normally see in a blindbox

[Anonymous No.7926967]

>>7926848
Lol. Are you trying to promote your tumblr with this shit?

[Anonymous No.7927205]

>>7926660
>>7926675
I honestly did not know there was an option to. Their message to me sounded finite with no option or link to get the case reevaluated. I don't really understand how I lost in the first place when the seller clearly sent me one item less. What could possibly be a good enough reasoning that I got nothing in return for my loss and for paypal to not do anything about it in the first case opened?

[Anonymous No.7927211]

>>7926967
How is this promoting her tumblr?

[Anonymous No.7927225]

>>7926872
Can't expect the crazy women to take a joke, every cgler should know this.

[Anonymous No.7927248]

>>7926967
yeah she spent $100 to get ripped off to get an extra 4-7 tumblr followers

[Anonymous No.7927249]

>>7926879
That's because nail polish is a banned substance for most postal carriers, whether you're shipping domestically or internationally.

[Anonymous No.7927271]

>>7926591
You are probably going to get banned for that anon. Can't talk about competing sites here.

[Anonymous No.7927340]

>>7926591
Where? I don't see it

[Anonymous No.7927348]

>>7927340
There is both a cgl and egl on there ;)

[ei666shii !otnRSDkuZA No.7927357]

Okay, just got done talking with Obasu. Screenshot of what is going on.

[Anonymous No.7927369]

>>7927348
No one uses the shitty egl board, use /cgl/ that's where dramu goes anyway.

[Anonymous No.7927375]

>>7927348
I found the cgl easily, I'm not seeing a genso thread.

[Anonymous No.7927405]

>>7927357
Damage control and bullshit.

No matter who your friends are, you should not let yourself become the "face" of their business without some sort of compensation. The fact they're trying to keep/wanted to be anonymous is pretty sketchy and kinda sounds like they knew form the beginning there could be some negative fallout from this shit. (I'm sure their anonymity would've dropped immediately if Gensobox had been an immediate success and got rave reviews)>

[Anonymous No.7927406]

>>7927375
its on the other one
>>7927369
well maybe if people used the egl one it wouldnt be so shitty, huh?

[Anonymous No.7927423]

>>7927405
I mostly agree with you, but is it really not common to be anonymous when youre running a business? Unless you are e-famous like Choke I cant think of what the advantage could be to telling everyone who you are

[Anonymous No.7927510]

>>7927423
Not that anon, but it makes your business more credible if people can put a face on it, creates a sense of trust between the business and the costumer. Plus it depends on how big your business is. In the end you need someone as the face of your business to handle any inconveniences and doubts regarding it.

If what Obasu said is true, then she's a fucking retard. Her friends are basically using her as a shield and since people are going to see her name on the page, they'll assume she's the one to talk to about any inquiries regarding this shitty ass business.

[Anonymous No.7927513]

>>7927369
egl is super new. people should start using it.

[Anonymous No.7927515]

>>7927423
>I mostly agree with you, but is it really not common to be anonymous when youre running a business? Unless you are e-famous like Choke I cant think of what the advantage could be to telling everyone who you are
I run a business and while my customers don't necessarily know who I am, I don't go out of the way to hide the fact that I own the business (I'm listed on the whois, blog posts, facebook etc.) and I'm not ashamed to have my name connected to it or to the products I sell. If you're specifically trying to be anonymous in business or run a business without ever being publicly linked to it then you clearly don't have any faith in your business or you have something to hide.

[Anonymous No.7927539]

>>7927423
Trying to remain anonymous while running a business seems hella sketchy, imo.

[Anonymous No.7927573]

>>7927357
Except no body is shitting on Obasu. Everyone is shitting on Sam. Local girls warned you saying she was the master of taobao and would be using a bunch of taobao. Others said she was untrustworthy. And no one knew it was her because she used her name, it's because her face was recognized, and samantha's wardrobe was recognized(then her posts on fb confirmed her involvement). Anyways I feel bad for Obasu. she's really sweet, she just seems to be too trusting and naive tbh

[Anonymous No.7927577]

>>7927510
>If what Obasu said is true, then she's a fucking retard.
She's too trusting.

> Her friends are basically using her as a shield
Well I mean it is sam we're talking about

[Anonymous No.7927604]

>>7927573
>And no one knew it was her because she used her name, it's because her face was recognized, and samantha's wardrobe was recognized

No it isn't it's just because the FB posts and the whois.

[Anonymous No.7927607]

>>7927573
I've known Obasu for a few years, you're right, she is too trusting and naive, and I hate that this is blowing up in her face. I hope she learns from this and distances herself from those shitty friends of hers.

[Anonymous No.7927610]

>>7927604
I remember the first gensobox thread. It was pointed out in the thread it was her before anyone even mentioned her FB. If you don't believe me check out the archives

[Anonymous No.7927674]

There are two girls who are serious about setting up an actual good company typing on Rufflechat. I know one is a gull, so this could be promising. Any confirmation on if anyone else is going to make this idea work?

[Anonymous No.7927724]

>>7927369
tbh, cgl hasn't been as active as egl.

[Anonymous No.7927911]

>>7925945
Jesus christ, I thought that stupid page was my computer fucking up. I actually haven't been able to access the page, the weeb face never ends.

[Anonymous No.7927977]

>>7925239
How's your first week on cgl going?

[Anonymous No.7929093]

>>7927249
really? I`ve got nail polish in blindbox before.
Noy US citizen