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I just got mine! I'm at work so I can't really comment on much or open everything but here's a sneak peak

>> No.7917797

>>7917794
I'm so sorry.

>> No.7917811

>>7917797
I can already tell that they didn't really cater to my needs because I specifically asked for no shorts and they sent me a pair. I got what looks like a huge fleece blanket, the sailor top, shorts, sailor moon necklace, mlp brooch, and star tights from mufish. It's the mahou shoujo starter kit. I'll do a more thorough review when I'm back from work!

>> No.7917826

>>7917811
A blanket...? Why.

How much did this kit cost?

>> No.7917842

>>7917811
Would you say you're satisfied with the products you received?
How much were they and please post pics of the items. I've been thinking about buying one. Also how long did it take to ship?

>> No.7917845

thank you for the post!
but yeaa looks like they took mahou shoujo and made meh

>> No.7917858

I'm sooo curious about the lolita boxes.

>> No.7917868

Did they give you tracking? I didn't get a tracking number

>> No.7917871

>>7917794
That looks like s knockoff sailor moon necklace. They said no knockoffs. . I understand if it's hard to weed out design replicas but that one is really quite obvious or is it just me?

>> No.7917883

Where do you get these boxes? what are they for? i've never heard of them before and its gotten me really curious!

>> No.7917890

>>7917811
Sort of confused as to what a fleece blanket has to do with a starter kit (like, how is a blanket a starter item for a fashion?), but then again, I'd really like getting a cute lolita-themed blanket...

I'd love to see detailed photos of your kit and anyone else's kits! Also curious how long they took out to ship.

>> No.7917892

>>7917811
>I can already tell that they didn't really cater to my needs because I specifically asked for no shorts and they sent me a pair.
This alone makes me significantly less likely to purchase from them, honestly. If they ask for preferences and then send you something you specifically said you did not want, that's a complete waste of your money.

>> No.7917954

everyone else should be getting theirs soon... post pics and reviews everyone!

>> No.7917960

>>7917811
That mass of blue looks nauseating, I hope the top and shorts turn out cute at least. I assume the fleece thing was thrown in to bulk the pack up.

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I did not get a tracking number, but DHL texted me saying it was going to be sent the next day. I had no idea it was from GensoBox. I assumed it was my coats from F+F

My first response was pretty bummed. I asked for pink, skirts/dresses, sailor moon, and sweets.

Sorry for the crappy photos, too lazy to take out my camera and fix the lighting

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>>7917965

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>>7917985

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>>7917990
Star tights

>> No.7917996

>>7917992
>>7917990
>>7917985
>>7917965
Wow I'm sorry anon, none of it even matches and that gross fleece blanket of stolen art is really the icing on the shit cake.

>> No.7918004

>>7917965
How much did you pay for this?

>> No.7918006

>>7917996
The fleece blanket is probably the free gift so I can't fault it for not matching

>> No.7918007

>>7917992
Well it's not a blanket, but a hoodie. I wouldn't have minded it so much but I gave my measurements
>31-24-33, 5 feet
and they gave me a size XL sweater

>>7917996
That makes me sad :(

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>>7918007
Forgot the photo

>>7918004
$99 plus shipping I think? I can't remember, the prices are listed on their website. I'm doing this all on my phone so apologies for being a bit lazy.

>> No.7918014

>>7918007
I think it might be a stylistic choice to have an oversized hoodie to be moe?
Or maybe they're just lazy and doesn't give a shit.

>> No.7918015

>>7918006
>>7918007
Nah they just put random stuff in there it's not even a blanket bro.
What's in there couldn't have cost more than 60-80 dollars. :/
Which I guess wouldn't be bad (because of taobao fees and shipping) if they actually catered to your needs and put a cute outfit together.

>> No.7918016

dear god i knew they'd fuck it up but i didn't think it would be this bad

>> No.7918017

>>7918010
Weren't you supposed to geta wand? I remember they said the magical girl boxes came with wands?

>> No.7918018

>>7918010
what the hell....i'm sorry anon :(

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>>7918010
Oh! I'm actually happy since I did get the skirt. I thought they only sent me the top and no shorts.

>> No.7918021

>>7918015
Not op but that's why i bought mine, to get a cute full outfit without having to figure it out myself. I'll be pissed if mine doesn't match. That's the whole point. What else are you paying for?

>> No.7918022

>>7917794
Wow, this Genso thing has a pretty good racket going on. Hot damn, you people are gullible. At least you still have the thrill of the ~surprise~ eh?

>> No.7918024

>>7918010
$99+ for a hoodie, a blanket, a sailor top, shorts, a (knockoff?) sailor moon necklace, a pony brooch, and tights, all from taobao I imagine?

That... doesn't sound right, but maybe that's 'cause I think of taobao as the site full of cheap cute stuff and don't think of the fees/shipping...

>> No.7918026

>>7918021
ooh well >>7918020 I guess it's not that bad then.

>>7918024
Yeah fees/shipping are at least 30 dollars on top of everything.
>>7918022
except she got exactly what was in the example lmao

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>>7918020
And the ridiculous shorts.

I'll post a full review and outfit shots with me wearing them over the weekend. My overall thoughts: cute concept, but packed execution. None of my items matched and it definitely does not have a "magical girl" feeling when I look at the items

>> No.7918031

>>7918028
Maybe they're supposed to be bloomers, worn under the skirt for extra kawaii peaking bloomers effect?

>> No.7918032

>>7918026
Yeah I guess if you put it all together is not that bad. The shorts were the most wtf part.

>> No.7918033

>>7918028
They don't quite look like regular 'shorts' to be worn out so much as bloomers which may be why they included them anyway, thinking they were different things?

>> No.7918036

>>7918031
peeking* oops

>> No.7918043

>>7918028
they'd be cute for roomwear/sleepwear.
i'm sorry for your disappointment though.

>> No.7918044

>>7917826
>>7917890
>>7918006
>>7918014
Sorry, it was a hoodie! Its as long as some of my AP dresses (I'm 5' and it comes mid thigh) so... not sure how it's supposed to be worn.

>>7917842
>Would you say you're satisfied with the products you received?
Right now I'm a 4/10. Like >>7918015 and >>7918021 mentioned, I thought it would be a full ready made outfit that I could wear all together but nothing about it screams mahou shoujo to me. The only thing I could even possible coordinate are the sailor top+skirt, maybe the sailor moon necklace, and the tights. The brooch does not match the rest of the outfit at all

>>7917868
I did not get a tracking code from them, but Sunday night I received this text
>DHL shipment ######## is scheduled for Delivery Monday. Can't sign for it? Leave signed note w/tracking # or visit http://www.dhl-usa.com/ondemand

>>7918017
I didn't get a wand :(

>>7918022
I had the money to spare, so why not.

>> No.7918045

Where was the package sent from? I know a lot of people are saying it is taobao but taobao isn't remotely this fast. This took about 2 weeks from order to reception yes?

>> No.7918050

>>7918044
Even if it was a free gift, I don't see why they could not have included more matching pieces. They could have added a nice hairbow and some jewelry or a pretty pen or locket instead of bloomers anda hoodie that don't match anything.

>> No.7918051

>>7918045
Oh, this is probably incredibly important to mention:

All your packages come straight from China. So yes this is all taobao items

Friday, October 31, 2014 Location Time
3 Departed Facility in SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 23:54
2 Processed at SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 20:50
1 Shipment picked up SHENZHEN - CHINA, PEOPLES REPUBLIC 20:27

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>>7918051

>> No.7918057

>>7918020
How are you supposed to wear that with >>7917985 and >>7917990?

I guess the hoodie will look cute over the pink (salmon?) skirt, though. And the tights match so at least you got one outfit?

>> No.7918059

>>7918051
Are you the shojou anon who picked cute princess things?
I'm witch-girl anon.
I have yet to get my package.
This is a little disheartening.

>> No.7918060

lets try to find the real value of the genso box

>> No.7918063

>>7918028
those are bloomers, worn under skirts.
too bad the ribbon on the sailor top wasn't that blue, then they'd kind of match and it would be better together.

Sailor Moon necklace is a fake.

I kind of like the barf explosion of a hoodie.
Also since you said "sweets" what is that hoodie, nothing but sweets.

>> No.7918064

>>7917965
Anon you should take a picture of it all on for shits and giggles.

>> No.7918065

>>7918050
That's how I feel too! I would have loved more accessories to put the sailor outfit all together but it fell really flat.

>>7918059
Yepp!! That was me. I was one of the first ones to post that I bought them. I hope your luck is WAY better than mine since you chose a completely separate theme

>>7918057
I'm not sure :( I'll try and play around with it, but yeah, the accessories are one of the major focal points to mahou-kei

>>7918060
I'd love to know as well. I can post the tags if they help

>> No.7918067

>>7918063
hoodie is also a knockoff as well

>> No.7918069

>>7918064
This. Add a weeby paragraph to it too, use as many emojis and stars and :3c <3 <3 as you physically can.

>> No.7918071

>>7918065
post tags
I'm intrested in the genso box because I like the idea of someone coordinating outfits tailored to my body type and tastes
but if its too overpriced It seems a bit annoying.

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>>7918063
These are the ugliest effing bloomers I have ever seen

>> No.7918077

>>7918075
I actually think they're cute aside from the weird blue color

>> No.7918078
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>>7918075
>mfw i like them

>> No.7918080

>>7918075
Sell them, anon.

>> No.7918081

>>7918075
pretty shade, but meh

>> No.7918082

>>7918075
I would use these as pj's. They look comfy.

>> No.7918084

>>7917965
These shorts look like the bloomers from my cosplay nightgown set thing. Like, they don't even look like the cute kind you wear on their own or anything.

>> No.7918085

>>7917965
I don't remember exactly but the top and bloomers and/or the skirt is from their sneak peak preview picture right? Necklace looks really cheap, hope it looks better irl. The top is acceptable though. Thanks for posting all these anon! Looking forward to see what other anons get.

>> No.7918088

>>7918075
>>7918077
it's cgl blue

>> No.7918089

>>7917985
Isn't this a knockoff too? Stolen artwork from someone on Deviantart. I'll look and see if I can find the original source...

>> No.7918091

>>7918089
Might be zambi?

>> No.7918092

>>7918010
http://marywinkler.deviantart.com/

poor homegirl

>> No.7918096

>>7918078
>tfw big thighs/ass
>got a pair from taobao but my thighs snapped the elastic

was the first time in my life I felt bad for doing so many squats

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of course

>> No.7918100

>>7918092
>>7918089
http://tw.taobao.com/item/41321057961.htm?fromSite=main&_lang=zh_CN%3ATB-GBK&thwarea=cn

Out of all the kawaii ass shit they sent you the worst one that matches zero things.

>> No.7918103

the way these monthly box things work is that they buy a bunch of shit en masse for cheap that aligns to a certain theme and then send everyone more or less the same shit. there's not really that much thought or personalization put into it. for the way they are working there can't be.

>> No.7918105

>dat bodyline luckypack tier assortment of bs

>> No.7918107

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Wholesale-6pairs-lot-2014-hot-sale-ladies-fashion-new-japan-harajuku-style-white-stars-spandex-nylon/1747660731.html


http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Japan-Anime-Sailor-Moon-Cosplay-Guardian-Tsukino-Usagi-Compact-Pendant-Key-Chain/2050850290.html

>> No.7918108

>>7918100
Oh wow, I love how one of them is just a BTSSB print on a sweatshirt.

>> No.7918115

>>7918108
Yeah, it's pretty bad. Do you know if that adorable hungry loli is a ripoff? I want this sweatshirt like mad but I don't wanna steal if I can get it from the source.

>> No.7918118

>>7918100
>mfw when there's a fucking sailormoon one
Why didn't you get that one? What the fuck?

>> No.7918143

>>7918098
What is this about? I can read the names you have blurred fyi.

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>>7917965

>> No.7918162

you poor fools

>> No.7918171

>>7918160
So instead of the sailor sweater she got the sweets sweater, she for the Sailor Moon necklace instead of the compact and she got the brooch but instead of girls on it it has a pony?

Shit man, they should have scrapped the brooch and compact for more jewelry.

>> No.7918173

>>7918162
I wonder if people will still be saying shit like "omg i just wanted to take da risk and be adventorous" after more boxes arrive.

>> No.7918178

>>7918160
So, I can only assume someone is going to get the blue and pink seifuku cardigan with that pink skirt as well.(also same tights) But seriously, why would they show the exact items for the example like that? And from this picture if they swapped the bottoms they would actually fucking match okay.

I feel really bad for anyone who bought this shit.

>> No.7918180

>>7918173
Um, I don't think people were doing it just for the risks? They genuinely liked the concept and wanted a fully made outfit put together

>> No.7918185

>>7918084
Do you happen to have a link to said night gown? I kinda want the bloomers. haha..

>> No.7918195

>>7918173
Oh shush anon, if it wasn't for OP then we wouldn't know how much of a rip-off this was.

>> No.7918198

Isn't the point of random boxes like this that what you get costs more than how much you paid?

>> No.7918200

>>7918180
Not that anon, but I think she means that some people will backpedal and say it was for the risk.
>>7918195
Wut?

>> No.7918201

>>7918180
People were starting to get defensive last two threads when others showed doubtfulness about the boxes by saying they were poorfags and that they wanted to take a risk about them despite how new the concept was, so.

>>7918195
She took one for the team so I gotta give her that.

>> No.7918202

>>7918198
Yes/

>> No.7918204

>>7918198
Yes, but apparently the boxes contain stuff that is actually worth less than what people are paying for, which is a shame considering how promising the concept was.

>> No.7918206

>>7918204
Even if they fucked up and either bought stuff from ebay or aliexpress it would be cheaper to buy it yourself.

>> No.7918208

>>7917990
There is so much official cute Sailor Moon merch out now. Why did they give you a shitty bootleg knockoff?

>> No.7918213

>>7918206
>>7918204
well no shit
the service is supposed to be "people buy clothes for you"
of course you're not going to pay the amount the clothing actually was.
That said, it's more bare than it really should be.

>> No.7918214

So, my question of the hour.

Would anyone be interested in a good version of this? Like one that won't rip you off?

I have actually been thinking about starting something similar to this for accessories. But using more indie artists rather than just taobao garbage.

>> No.7918216

>>7918213
>of course you're not going to pay the amount the clothing actually was.

Yeah, you are supposed to pay less.

And no, this isn't "people who buy clothes for you" it's a lucky bag.

>> No.7918219

>>7918213
>>7918043
>>7917954
These all smell like the gensobox reps.

>> No.7918222

>>7918160
I fucking doubt a single person got the Crystal Star powder make-up brooch. That shit sold out over a year ago.

>> No.7918223

>>7918088
HOLY SHIT you're right

>> No.7918224

>>7918222
Not if it's the ~knockoff~ even though they definitely won't put any knockoffs in!

>> No.7918225

>>7918214
is this a rhetorical question?

that is exactly what people were hoping for with gensobox, you know that right?

>> No.7918228

>>7918225
Alright then.

Fuck it, lets do it live!

>> No.7918229

>>7918198
not if you're the proprieter. the idea is to a) make money b) liquidate your unpopular stock. this one is a. for a lolita brand it's probably b with a dash of people hoping they get something good. if you're going with a you want the cheapest shit possible and it looks like they've done it.

>> No.7918236

>>7918213
>the service is supposed to be "people buy clothes for you"
You're describing me an SS, and that's not what these boxes were meant to be.
These people were meant to put random clothing and accessories in your box, like a lucky pack, with the exception these things were meant to be chosen according to your preferences.

And the purpose of these boxes was to pay less for a content that would be otherwise more expensive if you bought it yourself by separate.
They're basically making you pay more for a box which contents are actually less in price than what you're actually paying for. Some anon listed each item from the mahou shoujo box in the first thread and it turned out to be cheaper to buy those things yourself than ordering a box.

If we're taking into account what>>7918229
is saying, then the purpose of the boxes was met from the owners' point of view, because they're getting profit from them, but from the buyer's point of view it is a rip off. Then again this is only the first box so, maybe, if we want to give them the benefit of the doubt, the next boxes will actually contain better stuff.

>> No.7918248

>>7918229
No, you don't know how this shit works. The person who offers the service is supposed to get items wholesale(for less cost than usual) and then sell the box at what is a profit for them, but cheaper than if the individual buys each item separately.

This is basically what >>7918236 Said, a shopping service.

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>>7918219
i'm >>7918043 and i'm just echoing the same sympathies everyone else is, don't see how that's fishy.

>> No.7918255

>>7918236
they certainly made it sound good but unless you have a staff full of ~lolita stylists~ and ~professional gyaru~ there's no way they'd be able to effectively personalize all of these boxes, especially given the limitations of "we have to buy a bunch of the same stuff and send it to people." it's doable as sites like stitchfix can attest but you need a lot of capital to start and given the themes they're using it's not going to be easy.

>> No.7918256

>>7918252
Sorry, I didn't mean to click that post bro.

>> No.7918260

>>7918255
You don't even need much capital to start out with, you just need a preorder set up.

>> No.7918266

>>7918213
Please refer to services such as Wantable to get an idea of how this is generally supposed to work.
It's a blind box - the expectation is that you receive something of a greater value than what you would have paid buying the individual items.
In this sense, of course, people shouldn't quite expect a complete coordinate/outfit. That's more like personal shopping or personal styling.

In this situation, though, genso is neither one nor the other. They need to pick
1. full, thought-out coordinate that fits client taste
2. blind box of value above what client paid

>> No.7918267

So guys, if I remember correctly, didn't the gensobox people say specifically that they were going to meticulously check for knockoffs and not sell them or bootleg shit?

That whole box is pretty much bootlegs and knockoffs, I would seriously want my money back since they made bold as fuck claims in the beginning and this is very very little payoff.

>> No.7918271

>>7918255
The whole concept sounded good at the beginning because they made it look like they were putting thought into each customer's preferences and likes, and despite the gigantic banner on their site, they also seemed to put effort into making it appealing for people to buy their boxes, but ultimately this whole thing was too promising and it was almost a given it'd end up being disappointing. They amount of hype they generated was more than what they could actually deliver.

>> No.7918274

I guess the boxes being good was imaginary from the beginning.

Gahaha!

(I'm horrible)

>> No.7918275

>>7918228
make us proud

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>>7918267
oop

>> No.7918279

>>7918266
I've been subscribed to Wantable forever and they have never sent me something I specifically said that I didn't want, and everything that I've gotten has been worth way more than the $36 a month I pay.

If Gensobox was like that then it would be great, and it would have so much potential seeing as taobao stores are more than happy to sell in bulk but these people clearly have no experience with a business like this.

>> No.7918281

>>7918160
sry2say looks better than what anon got plus was expecting a buttload more accessories especially if they were going to be cheap

>> No.7918286

>>7918281
The clothes on the right are exactly what anon got though.

>> No.7918287

I'm going to be giving them the benefit of the doubt here and for a brand new company give it time. Baby birds don't always fly out of the nest on the first try.

>> No.7918290

>>7918287
No.

This is literally easy as fuck to pull off. There was like an 89% success rate and they fucked it up super hardcore. They went through a lot of work bullshitting people about meeting their needs, lying about offering replicas and pretty much fucking themselves over immediately.

This is a company, first impressions are everything, their first run is going to stick with people.

You don't go to a new bakery and expect garbage just because they're ~new~ do you? No, you wouldn't go back again if they're shit.

>> No.7918297

>>7918290
This. Especially you can easily buy the items that suit your taste from taobao or aliexpress yourself.

>> No.7918299 [DELETED] 

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he might had a fighting chance if he hadn't made that "vote for someone else" comment.

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actually holy shit, a lot of these races are a lot closer than I thought they'd be. D is still winning but it's not a blowout. it's almost like R has a chance if they gain a few points here and there

>> No.7918303

>>7918208
Because $$ I guess but there are cheaper gatchapon stuff that would have been more worth it imo albeit smaller items though.

>>7918214
Assuming it would be cheaper I guess? Since it's only for accessories. I have pretty picky taste so it would have to be pretty specified to my preferences. Also, would wait at least a month to see what others get before actually purchasing myself in case it fails.

>> No.7918304

>>7918200
I'm OP and I don't recall any back pedaling. I was also one of the ones to say "don't tell me what to do with my money" because well, yeah, it's my money. Whether or not I was naive to take part in this, I don't regret trying it out. If the boxes were great I would have loved to encourage many people to purchase a starter kit instead of buying mismatched shit (sadly that's what I got in my box) - I even wanted to get a kawaii monthly subscription for my friend and I for the accessories. I remember being incredibly discouraged when I first started wearing jfashion because nothing was cohesive. I have a disposable income, $100 here isn't going to be detrimental, but it could be worse for someone who doesn't have that kind of money to spare. That said I still love the idea behind Genso Box but I think what I got in my box speaks for itself.

From mahou to meh indeed. Really disappointed with the stolen artwork.

>> No.7918305

whoops, I seem to be on the wrong window.

>> No.7918310

>>7917871
The sweater has knock off art too. Oh well

>> No.7918314

>>7918286
I mean as a whole set. I prefer the sailor cardigan thing over the hoodie anon got, the bottom left item design looks better than the pony, compact is prettier than cheap looking necklace, and they made it sound like there would be more accessories when in reality they switched out decent ones for ugly ones.

>> No.7918315

>>7918304
>I'm OP and I don't recall any back pedaling.
Sorry, I maybe worded that wrong, I mean that now that you've posted yours people are going to use 'the fun of the risk' to backpedal, not that they had before.

I like the idea as well, but I would seriously ask for my money back in this situation personally since it's not worth just the fun of it. Especially since you paid money for a bunch of shit knockoffs and replicas that they promised they'd not include.

>> No.7918318

>>7918195
you were warned in the first thread it was gonna be a bunch of cheap ass taobao i don't know why anyone would think differently
>wahhh u a liar anon! Must be vendetta!!!11one

i was going to try it and then i saw that and noped the fuck out.

>> No.7918319

>>7918075
That's what most bloomers look like. They're not made to flatter

>> No.7918324

>>7918219
nope, I just don't get why anyone thought they would get things worth more than what they paid.
That isn't going to work for things like this where they don't have a ready stock and buy the items rather than make them.

>> No.7918325

>>7918096
That is true power anon

>> No.7918329

I'm going to wait and see how the other boxes pan out. Maybe the lolita ones are better? I'm going to wait and hear reviews from a few more.

>> No.7918330

>>7918056
So the Genso people don't even quality check the items before sending it to you? Or is Genso also based in China?

>> No.7918341

>>7918315
Oh that makes sense! Sorry for taking it out of context.

>>7918318
I purchased a box a week or two before they came out with the collage. The only time I would be surprised if someone received their magical starter kit was seeing what I received and then ordering one anyway. I didn't think I would be getting most of the items listed on there, give or take the lack of accessories and hideous hoodie.

>>7918319
I have bloomers and these are the first pair I've owned that look like I'm wearing a diaper lol

>> No.7918343
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>>7918319
For lolita sure, but there are j-fashion bloomers(usually called cullotes) that are really cute and meant for wearing as shorts.

>> No.7918347

>>7918324
>I just don't get why anyone thought they would get things worth more than what they paid.

Because that is, by definition what a lucky bag is.

I mentioned >>7918248 You can do so by buying wholesale, liquidated or cheaper bulk items.

Even shitty dealers at anime cons grasp the concept of lucky bags.


Also, your typing style is really obvious and the same from past threads.

>> No.7918348

>>7918343
That's not flattering unless you have the hips of a 8 year old boy.

>> No.7918350

>>7918324
it would be feasible if they had any knowledge of how retail actually works. Like the other anon said, they would need to buy their stock at wholesale prices and then sell a little below retail prices.

>> No.7918353

>>7918324
Because that's the point of the boxes.
You're supposed to be paying for something that would be more expensive if you bought it on your own.

What these people are charging you for is putting all this shit in one box and send it to you.

>> No.7918355

>>7918341
Ugh I'm sorry for sounding like an illiterate asshole. It's really hard typing everything up on my phone
>would be surprised if anyone saw what I ordered and still bought one anyways

>>7918324
If you're referring to people complaining about cost after buying the box... I don't think that's what I was doing? I never mentioned the cost or thought it was a rip off. I was just disappointed with the execution because I wanted to have a fun "mahou-kei" outfit and instead I got random pieces that do not say anything remotely mahou shoujo when put together.

>> No.7918359

>>7918348
It's more flattering than the babby bullshit the OP got. These are like 89% better.

>> No.7918377

>>7918330
If Genso ONLY ships to the US, then I would assume that the girls running it are from US and they're using a middle man in China to ship all these out.

That said, I don't understand why they can't ship worldwide if they're coming directly from China.

>> No.7918379

>>7918330
From what I recall being said in the first thread, the girls who run this live in Arizona.

>> No.7918381

>>7918324
That's literally what these kind of boxes are for. I look into makeup boxes and you get full sized products for a fraction of their retail price.

>> No.7918384

>>7918315
I agree. You should really ask for a refund and send all that stuff back.

>> No.7918391

>>7918343
Maybe holy shit
They aren't actually made to be worn bare?

>> No.7918392

>>7918330
Yah what is going on here? They don't pack it themselves? Some random shopping service person is probably doing it?

>> No.7918393

>>7918359
Sure, but being better than shit isn't really a shining achievement.

>> No.7918398

>>7918391
Then why did they come in a kit that includes a full outfit? There's no skirt or anything to cover it, which implies that they are meant to be worn with the rest of the 'full outfit' as the bottoms.

>> No.7918408

went ahead and contacted the artist who did the artwork on the bootleg hoodie. she's aware already of the hoodies themselves but i informed her of genso using them in their boxes specifically. hopefully she rages at them and they quit that shit. sorry about your bad box, op!

>> No.7918410

>>7918408
I hope they get shut the hell down.

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>>7918391
well since they don't quality check their items as they're coming straight from china, I don't think they realized how short the bloomers are. If it's supposed to be worn under the skirt or work the top, well....

Pic related. Skirt has built in bloomers.

>> No.7918415

>>7918411
You'd think that they would include shorts in the set with shorts that are supposed to be used as shorts rather than underthings. Anon asked for no shorts and got shorts that you can't even really wear as shorts.

>> No.7918420

>>7918415
what

>> No.7918422

Isn't all the art on their site stolen, too? I doubt they paid the artists to use them.

>> No.7918424

>>7918411
Anon, thank you for being such a great sport about all of this. I just choked on my drink laughing at the concept that they'd include bloomers with a skirt that has built in bloomers, holy shit.

>> No.7918426

>>7918415
>>7918420
bloomers=/= shorts

if someone requested shorts and got the bloomers, they'd be pretty pissed because you can't actually wear them as shorts

>> No.7918428

>>7918411
god it's so cheap it's almost painful to look at...

>> No.7918431

>>7918420
Sorry, I'm tired.

The bloomers OP got are meant to be used as bloomers, not shorts, they go under things. The set that the OP got didn't include anything to go over the fugly bloomers at all. What's more, she asked for no shorts, and not only did she get shorts, she got fugly undershorts.

And, with what you're saying, even if someone else's set came with the skirt and bloomers they would be useless to them.


>>7918422
Yes they are. The only thing that is questionable is the danny choo art, but that's specifically not supposed to have business or for profit affiliation.

>> No.7918432

>>7918075
they're cute AF, you apparently just don't know what bloomers look like. They're pretty standard. Not to mention, bloomers aren't there for looks, they're there to keep your panties from showing.

>> No.7918433

I feel like Genso really needs to ship items to themselves first for a quality check. It's super important to inspect what you're giving your customer before you send it out all willy-nilly.

Plus, if they are coming straight from the SS, they aren't really Genso-branded -- no Genso receipt, no Genso note, etc. These little touches are important for creating a brand and appearances.

>> No.7918435

>>7918426
Thank you~ I am really tired.

>>7918432
They sent them to her as bottoms, not underthings. Read the thread!

>> No.7918437

>>7918064
>>7918411
So. Would you wear bloomer shorts over bloomer skirt or bloomer shorts under bloomer skirt?

>> No.7918441

>>7918437
Too much bloomer talk.

>> No.7918443

>>7918343
>those things
>cute

The fucking bloomers from anon's box are 4000x cuter than those ugly pumpkin shorts.

>> No.7918444

>>7918437
It's a hat, obviously.

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>>7918424
>>7918437
I guess I'll try both??

>>7918433
I don't want to spread lies about Genso Box but they did include this note and the box had "GENSOBOX" on it as well. Completely forgot about this until you mentioned it

>>7918444
Please don't put ideas in my head

>>7918432
I don't think bloomers that resemble me wearing diapers is cute but I digress. I love my other bloomers that have more length instead of the elastic bunching around my crotch

>> No.7918456

>>7918075
i'm jelly of you r tummy anon. do you work out?

>> No.7918459

>>7918451
>Please don't put ideas in my head
Not in, on!

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7918462

>>7918459
clever!

>> No.7918465

>>7918214
Yes. If you do it, try to work out deals with indie brands so that you get their out of season/ no longer sold stock for a discount, or ask to buy X units for a cheaper price per unit (since your buying in bulk). This way, you can still give people what they paid for and you can make some money.

>> No.7918473

>>7918444
its 542am and i just choked on my lemon water

>> No.7918480

>>7918075
>>7918411
dat perfect figure

both items look really nice though, not sure if I would sell them

>> No.7918481

>>7918465
I have some ideas worked out(none that I plan on sharing ITT incase gensobox people are here.

>> No.7918485

>>7918353
Yes but those boxes are not THESE boxes. Those boxes are normally filled with unsold merchandize or the company has made a special deal with other stores.
They do not do either of these.

>> No.7918494

>>7917965
Fuck am I creepy for recognizing you from your bed sheets?!

s-senpai, please notice me...

>> No.7918497

>>7918451
>completely customized
>almost exactly like their preview image save for a different sweater and shitty necklace

ok

>> No.7918500

>>7918431
That's a shame. I was looking forward to their grisly ruin.

>> No.7918516

>>7918143
Not the anon you're replying to, but they're referring to the Gensobox giveaway that just finished up and they just ~happened~ to ~super randomly~ select a blogger with lots of Facebook Likes. Joke's on them though since she bought 90% of them and her blog has been really inactive ever since the nude scandal lel

>> No.7918523

>>7918451
Thank you for your purchase!

GensoBox started with the idea of making money off false promises, by selling to people who can't use taobao. GensoBox was created to deliver the years old chinese knockoffs of j-fashion, straight from china only to the US!

Your GensoBox is comprised of the first shit we saw under tags on the taobaotrends tumblr!
We spent countless hours dicking around and making you think we cared while the only two people who work for us told their friend in china what to buy for everyone!

We know we filled it with shit but hope you're too dumb to know!

Thank you so much for your money!
(Random white girl names)

>> No.7918525

>>7918485
They modeled themselves after services that do that though. This is what people were expecting, you can't claim that it's different when it's using the exact same business model to trick customers into paying them for garbage.


Also, hey OP, did you get a free gift? The site says you get a free gift.

>> No.7918527

>>7918451
>Scottsdale
I knew it, those trouble-making Arizona bitches are at it again. I wonder who "Miu" and "Yui" actually are.

>> No.7918530

>>7918527
Some anon was bitching about them in the last thread but didn't release their names in order to protect herself.

>> No.7918531

>>7918527
white

>> No.7918536

>>7918525
Were they advertising that they were? I'm not arguing about what they should have been doing, but from what I've seen is that they were choosing "customized"(apparent lie) items from a "variety of indie brand/off brand stores" which was implied to be taobao more than etsy.

I think op definitely has grounds to complain, but I figured she would get what she got ( though I expected the galaxy seifuku)

>> No.7918539

>>7918530
Fuck that anon.
$5 says one of them is Batty, out to get more money for burando to coordinate horribly.

>> No.7918548 [DELETED] 

>>7918516
wait yeah isnt lapin chocolat that girl; with the tumblr that posed her nudes along with her lolita an her smoking/vaping, and unother "unkawaii" stuff?
Her face looked so familiar, but her blog wasnt kawaii theme? It was more like hipster themed...?

>> No.7918550

>>7918536
It is pretty common knowledge that mystery or blind boxes exist in the jfash community. They also exist in other areas such as birchbox, some thing that's for Japanese candy and so on.

The site claims more that they are supposed to be a streamlined shopping service, but they failed at that horribly and managed to combine the worst parts of both lucky packs and shopping services.

They could have done 1 of 2 things:

>what people expected
Themed lucky packs, random stuff that was cheap, but amounted to a better value than just buying it yourself. The fun there is in the surprise!

>what they claimed heavily but failed to do
Customized packs for lazy/new people, shopping for each person, giving items that fit their requests 100%, effort worth the extra money.

Either way it was not worth the money regardless.

>> No.7918551 [DELETED] 

>>7918548
She's the weird nipples girl. Her cousin told her parents and her shit got baleeted.

>> No.7918553 [DELETED] 

>>7918551
Is i'm remembering correctly... her body isn't the skinniest, but not actually chubby, just soft, with slightly bigger boobs, but large darker nipples?

and she was posted maybe 3 - 4 months ago..?

>> No.7918554

>>7918550
Do people who aren't already into/knowledgeable about jfash even know about these boxes? It seems that from the note included they were trying to hit a demo too clueless and lazy for google, so I wonder if the people buying actually fit that description. Obviously OP took one for the team here but maybe we'll see reviews from less savvy individuals pop up soon on tumblr and fb.

>> No.7918560

>>7918554
They're advertising on lacemarket, and I've seen some post about it around. Maybe the noobs that decide that BRAND IS TOO EXPENSIVE!!!! will go for it, since they claim to give you a "full set" for a much lower price.

>> No.7918564

>>7918554
I have no idea. They seemed to only plug them to people who already know. All the talk about "latest trends from japan" when they are sending old, generic(stolen) taobao shit, the weeby quizzes and uguu fake japanese names lead me to believe they are targeting anime con dealers room tier weebs, and not people already into jfash, definitely not people on /cgl/.

I still don't get why they only advertised on jfash community platforms where people would obviously know what's up.

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>>7918548
She wasn't just nudes, she was camming 4 cash and posting masturbation gifs too. (I'm positive she still does, just on a password-protected account somewhere because a "client" asked her to stop making it all so public.)

>>7918553
>but not actually chubby
lol
she's gained a considerable amount of weight since this photo too, which is why she had to sell this and most of her other stretched out dresses.

>> No.7918566

>>7918565
Hey hey, take the dramu to like the loli general thread or something.

>> No.7918569 [DELETED] 

>>7918566
Hey hey, it's thread-relevant because she's their giveaway winner. It's gonna be hilarious when she can't squeeze into the cheap taobao shit they send her (there's a reason why she doesn't order clothing from taobao to begin with). She's going to end up posting a generic-ass review with no worn photos and then ends up selling it all.

>> No.7918571

>>7918554
I actually picked up a postcard advertisement here in AZ from a video game bar. Was wondering where else it was being advertised.

>> No.7918572

>>7918571
That's kind of funny but more to the point?
>video game bar
What is this and why don't we have one where I live?

>> No.7918580

>>7918572
It was funny to myself and my boyfriend because most the girls that go don't really dress up in Jfash. The stack of postcards looked like it had barely been touched.
Old sports grill turned into a video game lounge. TVs everywhere, full on consoles and game list, full bar (now with liquor license), sells food, etc. not a bad place.

>> No.7918581

>>7918198
>>7918204
Why do people think this? It's exactly the same thing as a person buying wholesale and selling at a small markup. How do you think they are supposed to make any profit? They could just as easily buy big lots of things and open a regular shop. You are paying for the curation and the gimmick, not because it has "more value"

>> No.7918586

>>7918580
Sounds rad as hell, I wish I had one here too.
Still, lel at gensobox trying to advertise there.

>> No.7918588

>>7918201
I got defensive because i thought it was rude that others wanted to see what wad in the boxes, but were simultaneously condemning people who actually took the risk they wouldn't. It's pretty hypocritical.

>> No.7918589

>>7918581
>Why do people think this?
Because every other blind box and lucky bag is that.

Every single thing you mentioned was already answered multiple times, read the thread.

>> No.7918590

>>7918581
That's..... Literally...... The...... Point...... Of..... Subscription..... Boxes.....

>> No.7918592

>>7918198
You should read this sentence and think about how stupid you are and sound. Practically nothing costs more than you pay. You're probably some utter pleb who thinks sales and coupons are some awesome deal too.

>> No.7918595

>>7918588
It's not hypocritical at all. Wanting to see examples to prove it's not a shit show is pretty understandable. It's also understandable to be skeptical, more so after the poor examples and tell people their opinion. /cgl/ is for speaking your minds.

Also, it's not rude, it's just an opinion. No need to call them poorfags for having an opinion.

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>>7918592

>> No.7918599

>>7918248
> They ate supposed to get items wholesale
> This sabra money
> as I'd this isn't what all retail stores already do
Holy shit. . Do you guys.. Not know how stores are supposed to work. .? Do you even know what wholesale means?

>> No.7918601

>>7918592
you're so fucking stupid

>> No.7918602

>>7918592
>>7918581
Hard samefag.

>> No.7918607

>>7918059
Witch? Can you post pics when it comes in the mail?
pretty please? Ifuckung love witch shit

>> No.7918608

>>7918565
ah i'm both these posters, thank you for answers!

>>7918566
Sorry, I didnt mean to attempt to derail thread, just wondering if I am matching name with face of a lolita

>> No.7918609

>>7918599
How did you fuck up quoting so bad, and english and all the sentences?

I am going to break this down really easy for everyone ITT

>start a blindbox service
>go to indie sellers etc with shops already on the internet
>say hey! I will buy bulk if you give me a discount of 15%
>get items at 15% discount
>do this with multiple stores
>sell box to people with each item at 5% discount from what they could buy from the indie shops themselves
>I make 10% profit without screwing them

Do you understand?

All of you, do you understand?

>> No.7918611

>>7918609
also, inb4 but anoooonn that's not a good discount at aaaaall!!223311!!!

It is an example of how shit is done.

I can give another example


>same blindbox service
>go to same sellers
>say hey! I will buy off the items you can't sell if you give me a discount
>get items discounted
>sell box to people with now sold out items
>still profit without fucking charging double the cost of taobao replicas and false promises

>> No.7918612

>>7918609
>have to also factor in shipping costs
I'm not any of the anons involved in prior discussion, but most people don't understand how at cost/manufacturing cost, wholesale and retail markups work. I'd save your breath if I were you.

>> No.7918614

>>7918609
Other blind box services work because they are based on brands advertising. Makeup brands will give samples to basically anyone for any reason. What makes you think random Japanese brands would give a shit about advertising to westerners? I'm just boggled that people are comparing it to makeup subscriptions when that is clearly not the point and doesn't even make sense.

>> No.7918617

>>7918614
Do you even get what you are saying? First off this shit is from china, second off many makeup boxes are full items not samples, and furthermore no one was exclusively comparing it to that, they were comparing it to blindboxes that already exist that do the same thing.

>> No.7918619

>>7918612
I understand that. I just don't get that they don't seem to get that the company is probably(hopefully) getting the items wholesale themselves, meaning 3x less than you can buy them, and they are not only profiting off of that price but the price you can buy them for by yourself.

>> No.7918621

>>7918100
Is that shop at all reputable? I want fucking everything.

>> No.7918625

>>7918611
How are they supposed to get the discount? Is not as if the wholesaler cares if you are a store or a subscription service or just buying 500 units to throw in a landfill. If you guys think subscription boxes for makeup is a good deal its probably because you are idiots who think mascara actually costs like $15 to make and/or don't understand advertising and sampling. It's not a good deal in the long run if you end up hooked on a $40 perfume you didn't know you needed until your subscription box gave you a "good deal" on it.

>> No.7918626

>>7918621
They indeed are anon. If you live in the US and are putting in an order with them I can pay you like $10 to buy me the cute loli sweater. I don't want to buy it off ebay for $40...

>> No.7918631

>>7918619
ITs not really different from buying something for 100% markup at a store?

>> No.7918636

>>7918625
I'm giving an example of how it would work with indie brands.

For the last time, many makeup boxes have full items in them not samples, and it is cheaper to get than buying it yourself.

This isn't just anons being morons, people have reviewed shit like that and it costs less than personally buying each of the same item.

>you are idiots who think masara actually costs like $15 to make.

No, we understand that, but we also understand that getting it from a source that causes it to cost $10 is better, you retard.

It's not all about advertising and it's not all samples, like you said, companies will sell to whoever, and subscription services can still make a profit by undercutting a retailer since the retail price is 3x the cost to buy it.

>> No.7918638

>>7918619
Unfortunately, it's just not something that's general knowledge. I'm only aware of the different markups and such because I've taken classes in fashion merchandising and have worked directly on a startup apparel brand so I've seen how that shit works firsthand.

Taobao is a strange monster though. I can't tell if some of the prices we see are actual wholesale prices because they skirt awfully close to those kinds of numbers or if some of the retailers manufacture so much crap that their individual costs are next to nothing.

>> No.7918640

>>7918631
That's sort of what anon is getting at. The prices we see at retail are at least 250% markup which is why they're able to discount the way they do - they're still making profit.

>> No.7918643

>>7918614
see >>7918381
>full sized products for a fraction of their retail price

>> No.7918646

>>7918631
Yes it is. Think of it this way the blindbox company buys the items from a factory for $5 Retailers sell the items for $25. If the blindbox company puts them in the box that prices them at $15, then people do save money, and the blindbox company still profits. Then, they also subscribe to the service which means they will continue to profit.

Do you understand? It is possible to undercut retail costs and still make money off of this. Fuck.

>> No.7918651

>>7918625
Makeup boxes are a good deal because you do save compared to retail price. As a normal consumer there's no way to get it at wholesale price. Of course products don't take x amount to make, that's how companies profit. Can I make the same product at home though? No.

>> No.7918653

Blindboxes work the same way that retailers do, they just sell items for less than retailers. It's the same concept as bulk stores. They trick people into spending more in order to save them money.

They do actually save money though, what part of this are you idiots not getting?

The point everyone is trying to make is that the gensobox items only cost them a fraction of the price. Things that would have cost us $50, but it only cost them $10, if they did their business right, meaning that even if they charged only $40 they would still make a profit and people would think they saved money by spending more. That's how business works, you're supposed to make the buyer feel smart not make them feel like they got screwed over.

>> No.7918655

Trying to explain this shit to idiots who don't know how business or economics works is tiring and stupid.

>> No.7918658

>>7918636
I'm impressed by little you understand how retail stores work, so let me explain it to you a little better.
Many manufacturers, ESPECIALLY cosmetics manufactures, have something called a MAP agreement. This is the minimum price you,, as a retailer, are allowed to sell something for.
If they catch you selling it for less than that, if they're nice, they will send you a warning letter. Otherwise they will send a C&D and refuse to sell to you anymore.
Cosmetics brands are ESPECIALLY rabid about this and it's a major issue on sites like amazon.
So how does a site like Birchbox fit into this? They are selling for less, right? Why would this be allowed, if cosmetics manufacturers are so anal for everyone else?
Obviously, it's calculated. They are smarter than you. You're not "tricking" them by using coupons, getting samples or subscription services.
I looked at these makeup subscription services and like half of it is shit i wouldn't even want. Those companies probably sell it cheap just to pawn it off on someone.
But you'll probably get a couple of goodies in your boxes. Guess what? Your confirmation bias takes over and you start thinking you got this awesome deal, even though cosmetics are heinously overpriced to begin with and the prices are practically illegally controlled on 3rd party sites. And then you buy more of this awesome brand because you like it, which increases their profits because you know they have a ridiculous markup on everything they sell. It probably costs them less than a dollar to furnish you that ~full-sized~ eyeshadow and you will return the favor by spending spades on their eyeshadow in the next few years.
It's all rigorously calculated and you're a moron if you don't see this. Like, this is peoples whole job, selling ovverpriced shit to you and making you think it's some awesome deal.

>> No.7918660

>>7918653
>they just sell items for less than retailers
>same concept as bulk stores
>trick people in to spending more

This entire thing. The whole goal of this is to make people spend more than they would and still actually save them money they wouldn't save if they bought each item separately.

>> No.7918662

>>7918646
You don't understand MAP agreements. Also, if it's that simple, why don't stores just sell it for $15 outright? Why go through the trouble of creating a blind box service? How does that make sense? How would that make a company more profit than if they just sold the things cheaper than everyone else?

>> No.7918663

>>7918660
And people end up buying shit they wouldn't otherwise want or need, and still think it's a great deal.

>> No.7918664

>>7918662
>Also, if it's that simple, why don't stores just sell it for $15 outright?
Because people will buy it for more due to convenience.

Also I do know how those work, there was simply no need to mention them ITT because literally no one but you and I know anything about that shit.

Lets say the MAP agreement price was $15 but people will buy it at $25, so why would the store sell it cheaper? That's right, they wouldn't, unless they are walmart and their gimmick is doing that.

The blindbox service exists to make people buy bulk and spend more. I don't think you know how this shit works as well as you think.

>> No.7918665

>>7918664
>hurrdurr I know as much as you I'm just pretending to be retarded
Kek, right. Idiot

>> No.7918666

Example for those that don't understand:

>Sweater is mass-produced and worth less than $10
>Sweater sells for $50
>You tell seller that you will buy 100 sweaters if you can get them for $30 each
>You sell sweater for $40
>You earn $10 for each sweater, while the buyer saves $10

Win win for everyone.

>> No.7918668

>>7918663
Yes, but the marketing technique is not the issue. The point is that the prices are indeed cheaper for each item, total money spent isn't relevant.

This is why sales and bulk items work, because people want to feel smart, like they saved money and they don't see that they're spending it on things they may not otherwise buy.

They exist to extort the types of people who buy shit on sale just because it is on sale.

However, each item still costs less.

>> No.7918673

>>7918666
Wow, thanks for explaining wholesale. It totally makes sense that somebody would set up a niche box subscription service with its own style guide and advertising for thee sole purpose of selling things to people for cheaper with a whole bunch of other shit they don't want do it actually costs more, when they could just sell the one piece of shit to people cheaper in the first place and way more people would buy it and they would still make money.

>> No.7918676

>>7918665
>I'm going to completely ignore what you said

It was just a hypothetical you retard. You are the one who started in with "derp you didn't mention MAP in your hypothetical that could have it applied already" or, you know, it could actually not be about fucking makeup and be about some idiots buying shit off of taobao where MAPs don't fucking exist.

>> No.7918678

>>7918668
I do understand the appeal, I just don't understand why people think that would be the case here.
Looking at gensobox, the advertising text implies that the value is in having a "personal stylist" who picks the items for you. I don't think they say anything about it being a good value, or anything like that. It also doesn't make sense why japanese brands or taobao would choose this route to advertise to new customers.
Looking at birchbox, their entire sale point is that it's a good value and it's very obvious. It's also very obvious why it's a good value, because the companies involved are hoping to hook new customers.
They just seem like two different things to me. I don't understand why people thought this niche service was magically going to be a great value on par with a large company like Birchbox with industry connections to brands that historically give out lots of samples to advertise.
>inb4 hi gensobox
I am disappointed with what I have seen but I think some people's expectations were really ridiculous here.

>> No.7918680

>>7918673
The point is marketing you fucking retard.

Holy shit.

You're supposed to fuck people over behind the curtain. They aren't supposed to know that you are profiting.

Like "Oh look, I'm giving you a good deal, even though I'm still profiting, not that you know that." So people feel smarter about getting fucked over by marketing.

You can't just buy items anyone can buy and sell them for more than what anyone can just buy them for, you have to give incentive.

The only vague incentive here was the super customized personalized aspect, which clearly was not applied at all, so therefore there is zero incentive to use that service unless you are a bumbling idiot who can't use the internet themselves.

>> No.7918685

>>7918678
>I just don't understand why people think that would be the case here.

Because they royally fucked up any aspect of the personalization.

Also, I already wrote a lot of it here >>7918680
but it doesn't have to do with advertising the companies to new customers.

The main point is that they obviously fucked people over when you can fuck people over without them knowing and still gain the same affect.

>> No.7918687

>>7918673
>when they could just sell the one piece of shit to people cheaper in the first place and way more people would buy it and they would still make money
Basically, they should have just bought like 30 blue sweaters, 30 pink sweaters, 30 lavender sweaters, 30 blue shorts and 30 pink shorts, and then just made different combinations with those to "suit each persons style". Since they buys that much, they get 30% off on each item. Then they can sell it with a 15% markup. They earn 15%, and buyer saves 15%.

>> No.7918691

>>7918685
>>7918680
Oh, I agree they fucked up the personalization. I just don't understand the people harping on it not being a ~good value~

>> No.7918692

>>7918678
This is definitely the wrong crowd. That being said, the fact that they failed with their initial curation doesn't instill much confidence either. Can you imagine what the boxes will be like if they actually had more customers to deal with?

>> No.7918693

>>7918687
Or they could open a store and just sell all those things for 15% cheaper than everyone else and it would be way easier and still profitable.

>> No.7918694

>>7918693
Isn't that what a lot of storenvys do already? At least they're trying a different model, albeit poorly.

>> No.7918696

>>7918692
I agree
I'm also surprised that the first box was more or less the "sample box"" they posted? That seems tacky to me. Among many other things.
The only thing I'm refuting is the idea that people think it would be a good deal, I think that it is a little over optimistic and wasn't implied by them at all. I did expect them to deliver better outfits and they did fail at that.

>> No.7918698

>>7918687
Not even that, the should have just fucking actually did what they said and not given the OP shorts when she specifically asked for none.

I'm not that anon, but I said earlier ITT they could have done 1 of 2 things.

Actually doing what they said and personalizing everything in a unique way, which would in fact justify profits.

Or do a generic version and cut the customer costs slightly by saving them money on each item(though causing them to possibly have spent more in total than they otherwise may have) and make the customer feel like they got an amazing deal since all the items ended up slightly cheaper.

Anons ITT trying to spout off marketing shit when they don't realize that gensobox failed to do what they advertised and failed to do the other possibility, which is definitely possible.

>> No.7918701

>>7918696
And you are right it's the wrong crowd. I think it's time to go do something else

>> No.7918704

>>7918693
Yes, but you're not getting the important aspect of it.

Stupid people spend more when they think they are saving more by doing so. It is actually much easier to sell this kind of thing in that way than to set up a store and rely on small impulse buys, because instead of doing that you can offer a bunch of amazing mystery stuff they will like for a bit cheaper. So instead of someone seeing one $20 item they like and only buying that, they spend $$80 in the hopes of getting that item and also other shit since it is promised that all the items inside are cheaper than separately.

>> No.7918711

>>7918693
It's actually more profitable this way.

Blind boxes and lucky packs rely on a few simple things. I am not entirely sure how to explain.

If you understand how sales work though it is very easy. A lot of people buy shit on sale that they don't need just because it's cheaper, blindboxes and luckypacks utilize that and add the aspect of mystery, gambling, surprise and luck into the mix.

>> No.7918713

>>7918698
/thread

>> No.7918714

My goodness, trying to explain economics to people on cgl, I applaud all you brave souls

>> No.7918724

>>7918088
I like them now.

>> No.7918728

>>7918711
>>7918711
But most blindboxes are relying on the advertising side of it.
Yes, there are some that rely on sales and random good deals, but those don't really make a lot of money (think flea markets)
It's also not the value they proposed. It's like getting mad at a fancy restaurant because you could buy filet mignon at the grocery store for $10. You don't go to a restaurant to get good deals and cheap food.
Yes, gensobox failed at making nice boxes but I don't think they failed at providing a discount product because they never purported to do that in the first place. That's really all I'm saying.

>> No.7918735 [DELETED] 

>>7918539
Lol, nope. Sounds to me by the ugly webpage, the "based in Scottsdale", and the cheap taobao shit that we're dealing with Samantha, who is a whole other breed of stupid. Possibly one of her cronies. She was posting about starting a shitstorm on her personal (but public) facebook the last time we had a gensobox thread and people sussed out she was involved. She basically feeds off drama, is a huge entitled cunt, and will lie cheat and steal from her friends without a thought. AZ tried to warn you dumbasses last time and you all poo-pooed us and said that her personal history with the comm was no indication of her business ability. Well, enjoy your shitty taobao junk that you could've bought yourself for less than half the price.

I can't believe I almost even considered this was legitimate, too.

>> No.7918740

>>7918728
>It's like getting mad at a fancy restaurant because you could buy filet mignon at the grocery store for $10.
No it's like getting mad at the restaurant for giving it to you and 50 other people, well done with potatoes when that's not what you or anyone else asked for.

>they never purported to do that in the first place
I agree with you there, but I was replying to how you mentioned that they could just sell the items separately, they can yes, but they can also be less retarded about doing what they tried to do.

>> No.7918743

>>7918728
Also, advertising brands or items really isn't super important people will buy shit for the mystery or because they're getting a deal(even though they end up buying shit they don't need) they also can project heavily what would be included and buy it in the hopes that what they want will be.

>> No.7918744 [DELETED] 

>>7918735
>she was posting about starting a shitstorm on her personal (but public) facebook the last time we had a gensobox thread

Welp.

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>>7918744

>> No.7918754 [DELETED] 

>>7918753
fishy as fuck

>> No.7918755

I like the idea of a gensobox and would legitimately pay someone to search taobao for things I'm interested in/work for my bodytype and send a coord to me.

looks like they're charging waaaaaaayyy too much

>> No.7918760

>>7918755
I would pay that cost if they actually personalized it like they claimed.

>> No.7918771

>>7918088
damn gotta get me sum now that you mention that.

>> No.7918772

>>7918714

It doesn't even seem to be an economics argument, as much as several girls soapboxing over mixed messages... one girl seems to be explaining blindboxes in some effort to say Gensobox failed, the other seems to be explaining how Gensobox is moreso a failed personal style shopper service... about the only thing everyone agrees on is that Gensobox failed on both sides.

>> No.7918777

>>7918772
It turned into an econ,rather, marketing argument. It started out with people saying, they fucked up why didn't they just use the standard blindbox formula, and then tons of people claiming that blindboxes don't actually work that way, even some "experts", but I really think people expected them to either work like standard blindboxes or, you know, actually personalize and do what they said they would.

I am also convinced that whoever was arguing saying that it's impossible to undercut retailers for reason XYZ, was someone from gensobox or a fucking retard.

>> No.7918784

>>7918588
Its not hypocritical, its just a "i told you so motherfucker" thing.

>> No.7918788

>>7918609
Wholesale is done at usually a /2 rate(from their rrp) or more.

>> No.7918798

>>7918588
But most of the skeptical people wanted to see what was in said boxes because they were curious about the quality of its contents and if it was a legit business. It's not hypocritical to want to know what's in the box considering how new the project was. No one had a starting point to get an idea of the boxes, not even the people who ordered them, so it was only natural to get curious. Plus being wary about your expenses doesn't warrant you being a poorfag.

>>7918777
I feel they tried to present themselves as "personalized blind boxes". They tried to mix both concepts into one and I guess that's why it became a good deal in people's eyes.

>> No.7918809

If this service is aimed at newbie idiots who have no idea what they're doing and are afraid to taobao, it's decent. Tumblr will love it.
If it's aimed at people who know what they're doing and have standards they need to try MUCH harder.
But let's face it, Gensobox is for the ordinary joes who want kawaii things but don't want to try. This service spoonfeeds idiots an aesthetic and charges them extra for time saved. It's like fashion fast food.

>> No.7918829 [DELETED] 

>>7918735

Who/what is this woman?

Any links to tumblr/facebook/etc

>> No.7918833 [DELETED] 

>>7918829
http://firstphoenix.tumblr.com/

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>>7918753

>> No.7918844 [DELETED] 

>>7918839
what the fucking shit, now i feel sorry for everyone who got duped into buying her crap

by the way, how does lacemarket always seem to attract unsavory sponsors? another big wtf

>> No.7918901 [DELETED] 

>>7918839
Pretty damn sure they're laughing about working with the retarded whitie and unloading shit that locals won't touch with a ten foot pole. Good luck everyone else.

>> No.7918980

>>7918571
>>7918572
>Video Game Bar
I would rather invest in this, so I could host kawaii game tournaments. Someone should get on this.

>> No.7918999

>>7918980
Near where I live we call them a "barcade". I think there's at least 3 within my city but they're all so ridiculously small and end up being super cramped on weekends.

>> No.7919054

Am I the only one who wouldn't want a ready made outfit? In the started kit of course that makes sense. But in general?

I'd feel like an idiot running around in an entire genzo box outfit idk and of course they'd have to be basic as hell too, to account for varying taste, I don't see them putting together a bombass cool concept for a coord for everyone. I'd rather get a bunch of unmatched cool shit, than some basic lame outfit (which is clearly IMO what was offered. The top goes with the skirt, the shorts are to be worn under oversized sweater.)

I'd rather get stuff I'm interested in and can work into my wardrobe. I'd also be OK with none clothes, housewear, cute, mugs etc the idea of a blanket seemed cool.

>> No.7919082

>>7918098
Totally feels like this is rigged, why would they choose number 395 out of any? They just wanted someone cute popular Asian to show it off

>> No.7919117 [DELETED] 

>>7918735

hi alex

>> No.7919133

>>7919082
random.org is a random number generator, why wouldn't it be 395? The might have tinkered with the excel table afterwards though, so it still might be rigged.

>> No.7919171

....... Aren't people forgetting that for a little bit more money (assuming you're interested in lolita- or well I guess other brands do it) that you can get a premade happy pack with coordinated items? o.O The new BTSSB one came with an entire coordinate for only $128, it seems like a much safer bet to just buy lucky packs from brands you trust (easier to resell too!)

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>>7919117
>"Hi, ____"

>> No.7919209 [DELETED] 

>>7919117
hi samantha

>> No.7919214 [DELETED] 

>>7919209
hi clover

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>>7919117
>>7919209
>>7919214
Girls

>> No.7919227

>>7919171
link?

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>>7919224

>> No.7919248

>>7919227
they only come out every once in a while, like around the holidays usually

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>>7919117
>>7919209
>>7919214
>>7919224
Nice one.

>> No.7919322

>>7917965
That's terrible.

How would one even issue a refund for this? Would you dispute it as SNAD?

>> No.7919325

>>7919322
I think you just have to take the hit, we all knew deep down it was going to be shitty.

>> No.7919339

>>7919325
Welp. Guess I'm glad my items stayed in the shopping cart.

>> No.7919376

>>7919054
Then it's not for you.

None of the shit goes together and it's clearly not what she asked for.

They made bold claims promising custom shit and they failed horribly.

>> No.7919397

>>7918844
>always unsavory
The only other sponsor I've seen them have was The Snow Field - who are you talking about?

>> No.7919420

>>7918527
Reminds me of my tinierme days when everyone had am American name and a Japanese name. How can people still weeb this hard

>> No.7919424

>>7919420
>tfw 1/4th Japanese and my grandmother gave me a Japanese nickname to be cute
>never mention it other than to friends because of weeb shits like this

fuck.

>> No.7919773

>>7919397
Lenore.

>> No.7919816

>>7919424
no you're legit it's different

>> No.7919830

>>7918051
No shit it's taobao items. What the fuck did you guys expect? Who the hell throws $100 bucks at a blind box of clothes to a new business? This isn't an Innocent World lucky pack where you can at least have a good idea of what you'll be getting. It was obvious it was going to be crap from Taobao so just pick what you like and order it on your own.

>> No.7919840

>>7919830
I think for most people the problem isn't that it's Taobao items (honestly, if you weren't expecting that you're some kind of retard), more that it isn't nearly enough of them, plus there's replicas when they specifically said there wouldn't be (the Sailor Moon thing isn't the only replica, either, they've got knockoff Abilletage tights in the sample lolita pack they posted) and they haven't taken customers' specific requests into account.

>> No.7919854

>>7919830
I don't think anyone was expecting a glorified SS from china to send their stuff. Yes we expected taobao. But coming STRAIGHT FROM CHINA? No quality control? That's just some lazy bullshit

>> No.7919856

>>7919830
In general people were expecting something less lazy, perhaps? Like, they were aware this was going to be shit from Taobao, but they didn't think it'd be this bad.

>> No.7919890

>>7919830
There is too much knockoff shit in there.

>> No.7919936

>>7919816
No I know, but it's hard since weebs make everyone really suspicious of you. Like tumblr and making up shit to sound cool and oppressed.

I use the name as my badge name and sometimes people ask about it, when I explain I've had people get pissy at me and claim I am lying.

>> No.7919963

You are buying a random box of crap from China, what else was to be expected?

I'm seen so many of these other "boy a box of blank for blank" and I don't see why anyone expects a deal. It's for lazy people who don't like shopping for themselves. I've done produce delivery boxes and I stopped because it's just cheaper to buy from stores, I've seen the blue apron box and I'm shocked people pay extra for cut veggies and a recipe card, all those snack packs and bark boxes are never worth what you pay unless you don't understand what the items are really worth.

These boxes are either marked up things you're too lazy to buy, or a box of random bits from a clearance section. They sell them to make money.

These are not lucky packs. Lucky packs are from brands that just want rid of their clearance items or make special cheap items for them. This is just a company that does nothing but sends boxes of junk.

>> No.7919985

>>7919963
read the thread or get out.

>> No.7919990

>>7918010
Oh I know the store that sells that on taobao, I got the same jumper but in a different pattern. It's not XL, it's supposed to be that long OP, it only comes in 1 size.

>> No.7919993

>>7919985
Read the whole fucking thread, but thanks.

>> No.7919998

Has anyone seen anyone else get one of these boxes like a post on tumblr or something?

>> No.7919999

>>7917965
What a mass of cheapo Chinese shit. This must have cost them $15 at most.

>> No.7920007

>>7919993
if you have comprehension skills, you'd have figured out that all of your 'points' have been posted and discussed already

>> No.7920010

>>7920007
Yet people keep trying to say that it's suppose to be worth more than they paid. And thus the circle continues.

>> No.7920016

>>7920010
It was already discussed, read.

>> No.7920018

>>7920010
>people keep trying to say
No, they -did- say that. No one has said anything since you posted.

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If they kept the same amount of items yet cut the cost in half, maybe it wouldn't have been such a bad deal.

There's no fucking way the total value of the items OP got was anywhere close to $100. I could believe $50 but even that's a stretch considering it's taobao.

>> No.7920032

>>7920027
Well there's also shipping costs, but yes they're definitely making off with a nice profit.

>> No.7920036

>>7919999
Exactly. The only article of clothing in the box was the shitty hoodie with mismatched cuffs. Everything else is Walmart Halloween costume-tier junk you can't even wear in public.

>> No.7920048

>>7917965
>tights have a taobao link on them
top kek

>> No.7920057

>>7917965
>>7919999
As a shitty anime dealer, I recently bought similar Sailor Moon necklaces at $1.35 each, plus shipping. Yeah, they ripping you off.

>> No.7920100

>>7919376
Wat?

>> No.7920107

>>7919325
Why would you think that? Do you guys not understand how often PayPal sides with buyers?

>> No.7920360

>>7920100
Did you read what the anon replied to?

>> No.7920480

>>7920107
This. You can even point out the knockoffs to them(the sailor moon shit counts for enough) and they'll investigate gensobox as a whole.

>> No.7920689

>>7918010
Oh god that looks ugly as hell

>> No.7920738

>>7920480
Yeah, they could get shit down over something like this. It's also practically the definition of a snad claim. If my box looks like this I'm probably going to open a case. They have one job

>> No.7921154

The site looked a bit weird to me when I first saw it, sadly not surprised this hasn't gone well but that sucks badly if they said they weren't going to send knockoffs and they have.

>> No.7921325

looks like Lacemarket are no longer running their ads

>> No.7921345

>>7921325
Good.

>>7920738
I kind of want to buy one and then open a claim to get them to shut down.

>> No.7921399

>>7920360
Did you? If anything it sounds like the miss matched box would be something she IS in to.

>> No.7921615

>>7921345

haha yeah credit card fraud is a GREAT idea

>> No.7921725

>>7921615
That's not credit card fraud you stupid retard.

>> No.7921991

>>7920027
>There's no fucking way the total value of the items OP got was anywhere close to $100. I could believe $50 but even that's a stretch considering it's taobao.

Well, if you're afraid of taobao you might consider getting your $100 worth. How much does shit like that go on StoreEnvy? If you break it down, I see it being possibly worth $100 in the Western Market. What's everything worth on that market?

$50 - Sailor skirt and top
$10 - Sailor Moon Necklace
$10 - Pony brooch
$10/15 - tights
$20 - Sweater
$15 - bloomers

I can see it being "worth" $100. It's just that us savvy seagulls know that shit is cheap as fuck.

>> No.7922234

has anyone else gotten a box yet? I've been checking around and haven't seen anything.

>> No.7922500

>>7921991
honey no

>> No.7922542

New thread
>>7921350

>> No.7923023

>>7917965
fucking hell, they're selling taobao stolen art tshirts... acrylicana could sue the shit outta them

>> No.7923472

update on the stolen artwork hoodie: https://twitter.com/marywinklerart/status/530833459858534400

the hoodies usually are priced around $45 on Storenvy, btw, but as they're stolen art, they're taken down swiftly.

thanks for noticing, btw.
- acrylicana