Ita thread

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Ita thread Anonymous Mon Sep 22 07:38:12 2014 No.7833755 [Reply] [Original]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 07:59:32 2014 No.7833771 Don't be mean, OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 08:12:23 2014 No.7833782 >>7833771 What? They look its as fuck. Not their fault, they are just models, but buy helping Selena, they are just encourage these horrendous designs. Miss Kittiness needs to go.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:13:44 2014 No.7833881 >>7833755 >"oh come on OP, they don't look that bad. Jesus, you're a sandy cunt-" >open pic >allmywat.png

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:20:05 2014 No.7833890 File: 89 KB, 960x484, 10413406_10202918684947877_6209118329101539731_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:21:40 2014 No.7833891

>>7833782
Some of the dresses look okay like the polka dot ones. The hair and makeup are what really push it into true ita territory otherwise they would just be nitpicks. I really hate that OTT "doll" makeup where the bottom lashline is drawn way below where it actually is.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:22:10 2014 No.7833893
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Dat lipstick tho.
This and the pink polka dot dress are the least horrific imo but holy shit who did the styling and makeup for these girls? Her brand is a hot mess.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:22:53 2014 No.7833895
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>>7833771
Are you blind anon.

> That shitty anime-doll-make-up
> A selection of nice/average jsk's that could have been good with a little bit more work. Half look unfinished.

> One girl wearing no blouse in blue. Looks like a porn star.
> Chiffon black blouse ita looks like a fetish Dom. Nice bra you have there.
> Those weird hairstyles could have been good on the right face
> WTF the girls in yellow and Blue. Cute outfits but faces and hair wtf.
> Girl in brown looks like she showed up last minute.
> Dark purple girl with pink hair looks like a villain from the era of teenage mutant ninja turtles.
> First black and pink outfit is actually cute as fuck but that make up spoils everything.
> Girl in lilac and cyan, apart from shit shoes and awful make up could have been okay.

Not sure if this is an act for some sort of weird hentai or really shittly done fashion show for anime villains.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:34:29 2014 No.7833905 File: 78 KB, 854x859, 10632816_491673934268620_5286779032094213661_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7833895 >Girl in brown Thats the owner of this brand kek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 10:59:48 2014 No.7833931 >>7833893 Looks like something by Doe Deere. I'm pretty sure that's a lime crime lipstick too

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 11:00:44 2014 No.7833933 >>7833755 what the fuck why cant they fix their fucking hair

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 11:02:50 2014 No.7833934 >>7833893 This one doesn't look horrific but it does look like babby's first handmade lolita dress. If I were a ~designer~ trying to start a ~brand~ I'd be ashamed to show anyone amateur shit like this.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 11:09:06 2014 No.7833944

>>7833755
I could forgive the crazy hair/makeup since it's a fashion show and it's supposed to be kind of over-the-top, right? (It IS a fashion show, right?) but what REALLY kills me is that all the JSKs look like they are from the SAME ugly pattern. The bodice is not flattering, the fabric choices are meh at best, the designs aren't terrible, but not very creative or anything. Doesn't look like most can handle a petticoat, either...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 11:48:39 2014 No.7833991 >>7833893 This hair is pretty impressive though. If she had bands it would be really cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:18:37 2014 No.7834042 >>7833893 I dunno if it's the dress or the model, but the bodice/boob part looks REALLY ill-fitting...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:28:48 2014 No.7834059 File: 240 KB, 970x825, Screen Shot 2014-09-22 at 17.23.29.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CoF no longer allowing Con-crit on posts unless asked for.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:38:07 2014 No.7834091 >>7834059 > pain purpose Freudian slip?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:43:58 2014 No.7834109 >>7833893 That hair is pretty Interesting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:47:16 2014 No.7834115 >>7834059 And now all of the bitching about coords gets flooded back to here, like what happened when daily_lolita was dying. Nothing will change.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:47:29 2014 No.7834116 >>7833890 that smile looks so sincere. she should make money with a con man scheme.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 12:53:03 2014 No.7834128 File: 55 KB, 515x697, 10686824_530190429721_6080512670163143935_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] jeans with lolita look dumb as hell? and dont pull the religious card, you could at least have found leggings

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:00:24 2014 No.7834144 >>7834128 Leggings might be too form-fitting and may be considered too "revealing". But jeans do look dumb with lolita.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:00:42 2014 No.7834145 >>7834128 She looks fine to me even if it is a religious reason. Get your stick out of your arse.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:01:14 2014 No.7834146

>>7834128
She can't wear leggings, they're too skin tight, thin fabric and "provocative". Some Muslims wear them but the more traditional/modest allow straight leg or wide leg jeans but definitely no tights, socks or leggings.

Her coord is pretty flawless considering she can't wear socks or tights, I wouldn't call this ita.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:01:27 2014 No.7834150 >>7834128 tbh you shouldnt join a fashion whose fundamentals clash with your religion

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:01:28 2014 No.7834151 >>7834128 ZOMG POC poor oppressed lolita-chan >10,000 notes on tumblr

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:06:15 2014 No.7834165 Everything matches and its very balanced, the jeans aren't even noticeable, if she was wearing ratty denim jeans then it would be ita, but they tie in perfectly.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:08:15 2014 No.7834167

>>7834150
Okay, Muslims can't be lolita but wearing MMM prints with crosses and religious motifs, or wearing Madonna Crowns regardless of your religion is totally okay because its okay to be a fashionable Christian or fashionable Atheist appropriating Christian symbols because they're trendy.

Sounds totally fair.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:08:56 2014 No.7834172 File: 713 KB, 517x581, wha.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] someone explain what this is because idek

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:10:03 2014 No.7834177 >>7834128 I would be ok if this if it was nice white trousers, but nope it had to be jeans that look like they've not been ironed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:10:20 2014 No.7834179 >>7834167 + 1 You. Have a cookie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:10:45 2014 No.7834182 >>7834167 yeah your argument doesnt even make sense lolita is about girly modesty, not covering every inch of your body shape with baggy shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:11:52 2014 No.7834185 >>7834177 exactly, how is she even famous? also the scarf looks plain without any accessorizing

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:15:39 2014 No.7834195 >>7834182 When did I say being Muslim involves wearing baggy shit? Islam is about modesty too, but there are different ideals of modesty in different cultures, Muslim and Lolita both involve modesty to varying degrees.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:17:54 2014 No.7834201 >>7834172 Day dream Madonna lets-do-every-trend-at-once

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:18:12 2014 No.7834204 >>7834172 someone who coords blindfolded?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:19:39 2014 No.7834210 >>7834128 >>7834128 this isnt even about religion, she just looks boring and crappy. the only lolita thing is the dress...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:20:31 2014 No.7834212 >>7834172 at least the colours don't clash

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:24:53 2014 No.7834219 >>7834128 If ya'll are gonna fight about Muslim fashion can you do it somewhere else please, this is getting so old.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:25:59 2014 No.7834223 File: 93 KB, 494x507, Screen Shot 2014-09-22 at 10.24.03 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This group used to be good. The last few weeks it's been in an ita spiral and now this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:27:03 2014 No.7834225 File: 151 KB, 484x655, Screen Shot 2014-09-22 at 10.24.23 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834223

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:28:11 2014 No.7834228 File: 28 KB, 515x102, Screen Shot 2014-09-22 at 10.24.32 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834225

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:28:56 2014 No.7834232 >>7834146 But she's wearing skinny jeans which are just denim leggings anyway.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:29:29 2014 No.7834234 File: 64 KB, 492x295, Screen Shot 2014-09-22 at 10.29.01 AM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834225 gdi I forgot to expand that last comment

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:31:38 2014 No.7834241

>>7834167
>>7834195
The problem is that the shit they force muslim girls to wear clash horribly with the lolita aesthetic.

If anyone else wore a head scarf and jeans with a dress, they'd be ita as fuck, but it's magically ok because you guize it's her religion!!!!11!

If you can't wear it right, don't wear it. If she wanted to wear a tube top but had to wear it over a turtleneck she'd look like a fucking idiot, so she doesn't wear tube tops.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:39:25 2014 No.7834252 >>7834241 >force She lives in the UK, she is not forced to wear this but does so of her own choice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:39:56 2014 No.7834253 >>7834241 exactly. if you cant put together a lolita coord, forget it. youll never look like the girls you aspire to anyway...?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:40:59 2014 No.7834258 >>7834252 lol as if there isnt extreme religious practices in the UK lol lol lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:41:51 2014 No.7834259 >>7834241 I've seen some nice coords with a headscarf on cgl >>7834146 are some of these more baggy knitted leggings ok to wear? Tough I don't know if they'd look any better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:43:08 2014 No.7834260 >>7834252 Uh >>7834258 this. The family forces the girl to wear it and determines what's acceptable, not the government. >>7834259 Headscarf alone? sure. But not fucking jeans. And not a plain, flat, white headscarf like that either.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:50:49 2014 No.7834271 >>7834128 I don't even mind the jeans but I think there's too much white in the coord, it's a bit unbalanced. If the bag matched the shoes or if she had a bigger wine head accessory or maybe some wristcuffs, it'd look nicer.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 13:53:09 2014 No.7834279
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>>7834059
>>7834223
>>7834225
>>7834234

In response to all this, I had to restrain myself from post this question on the page:

"Are we *only* allowed to post 'nice comments' about outfits then?"

Because now that con-crit isn't allowed, I feel like I should freely be allowed to say "That blouse looks super bad in this coord."
Why?
No constructive criticism there!

>is CoF just a shitty hugbox now where shitty itas get to post up their newest "casual" and incomplete coords?
>not like it wasn't before, but still

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:06:56 2014 No.7834307

>>7834167
Not that anon you were replying to, but I am Christian and I'm comfortable with wearing christian religious (or just inspired) prints keeping it toned down - if you follow the religion yourself or if you are atheistic doesn't matter to me. There is nothing appropriating about it if you know about the symbols and the meanings of the stuff you wear and if you have some decency about the way you coord yourself. I don't see anything wrong with stained glass prints or even JetJ's Jesus print as long as you keep it moderately and don't see this just as an opportunity to cosplay as a saint or virgin mary and cover yourself in veils, madonna crowns and crosses from head to toe, that would be appropriating from my understanding.

Christianity and its symbolism also has a long tradition being a subject of arts and philosophy, in a criticizing context, and thanks to that the western society today views religion much more relaxed since it has accommodated with modern culture and lifestyles in many aspects.

My problem with Islam on the other hand is, that it never really accommodated, age of enlightenment never took place in islamic majority countries, that's why you have those strict rules even on how you dress yourself, and that's why any criticism or thinking outside the box aka against rules is viewed as appropriating.

And that's a huge disadvantage in lolita fashion, since the islamic dressing code (or whatever you want to call it) clashes so much with lolita fashion that there will hardly be any way to make it work without being appropriating or breaking some "rules". Another point is that lolita is heavily influenced by traditional western clothing and a Christian person will have it much easier to incorporate their religious elements with lolita because of the similar aesthetics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:06:58 2014 No.7834308 >>7834279 Do it anon! people don't improve if they get told everything is perfect to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:11:25 2014 No.7834317 >>7834241 People don't force muslim girls to wear the scarf you idiot. It's a choice to express their religious devotion. It's burkas that they force them to wear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:15:33 2014 No.7834323 >>7834317 Who cares about the Hijab, its the jeans that throw this coord off aparently even though they match the colour and aren't even that noticable. Its more of a nitpick than a full on ita coord.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:22:09 2014 No.7834335

Holy fuck I cannot give a fuck anymore. She's allowed to wear jeans, but we're allowed to criticise it. Doesn't matter if she's an extreme Muslim (which she is - most of my moderate Muslim friends can wear colored stockings afaik), it's still open to concrit especially in a community based on excessive materialism and doesn't even make exceptions for people of different sizes.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:34:54 2014 No.7834367

>>7834307

There was an age of enlightenment in the various Muslim empires that existed - the Arabians invented the current numeric system, and the Turkish Empire had vaccines, both huge advancements that changed the modern world. However (and just to prove it, a lot of Muslims keep denying this happens) there was a huge movement in the 1000s that tried to downplay the importance of the 'physical world' and advancements in science in favor of a return to spirituality. This movement got revived in the mid 1900s in many of these countries - they were actually way more secular than they are now, and subsequently went backwards as a result. Enlightenment is not something that never happened in the Muslim world, it just got reversed in recent history thanks to strife within the region.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:43:58 2014 No.7834389 File: 111 KB, 498x750, 1369039863252.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it just looks so dumb

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:45:51 2014 No.7834396 >>7834389 Okay here they do spoil the outfit. They are too dark a shade.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:46:47 2014 No.7834399

>>7834167
Muslims can be lolita, they just shouldn't wear jeans and scarves on their heads (because they aren't required to by their religion in the first place). I'm a Muslim and I don't look like shit because I don't pull the religion card as an excuse to look like shit.

There's a difference between saying "Muslims can't be lolita" and "Muslims that insist on wearing headscarves and jeans look like shit". Depending on different schools of thought in Islam the amount of skin that you should cover changes anyways; many say that at least the knees should be covered - which, golly, is a rule in lolita too! But if someone still thinks that showing the shapes of the legs is wrong, then they probably shouldn't get into a fashion that uses knee length dresses anyways (or they should just wear longer dresses, durr hurr).

It's annoying when idiots ignorant about Islam try to talk about it as if they know shit about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:47:56 2014 No.7834402 >>7834317 No, they do have to cover their hair. That's a thing that they have to do. They are forced to do that or they're shunned by their religious community because it's immodest to have her hair showing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 14:50:35 2014 No.7834408 >>7834402 WRONG

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:01:21 2014 No.7834426 >>7834408 I am Muslim and YOU are wrong. A true practicing Muslim women will take the faith seriously. Woman who don't are classed as nonpracticing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:02:30 2014 No.7834428 >>7834146 If anything, its the shoes that throw it off. If her pants matched her socks, or her footwear were white like the pants it wouldn't look so off

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:04:49 2014 No.7834430 >>7834428 Boot would have hidden the jeans tbf.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:06:58 2014 No.7834433

>>7834426

Sounds like Islam, like most religions, differs on many issues, with different people saying different things.

Just because your family said so doesn't mean that particular criteria is set in stone. Most of my friends consider themselves practicing, so I think it's just a matter of where you are and which teachings you follow.

Honestly we could be here all day citing sources for and against wearing hijab but in the end it's a personal choice based on your perception of the religion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:07:31 2014 No.7834436 >>7834426 >>7834402 >atheist white chick impersonates Muslim girl on 4chan What the fuck are you doing

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:08:38 2014 No.7834437

>>7834426
You need to cover the bosom, hair is optional, as long as you are modest its okay to show hair. Its a regional thing. There are practicing muslims who don't wear the hijab but are still modest. Personally I preferr the hijab but its not compulsory

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:12:49 2014 No.7834442 >>7834367 ...You have no idea what the Age of Enlightenment is, do you? Hint: it wasn't scientific. Also, the Arabians didn't create the current number system you fucking moron. It was the Indians. Have you ever taken an actual history class?

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:18:11 2014 No.7834461

>>7834442

Scientific progress generally follows secularisation, you moron. You don't go making scientific advancements if you think you don't get any rewards until the afterlife.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_jG5kKfacY

Also yeah, I've heard that. I've also heard it was the Chinese who devised the first primitive numeric system. Cite your sources buddy, the numeric system is a shitstorm with a lot of contenders for who made the first one. Doesn't discount the fact that the Arabians were the ones who eventually brought the numeric system as is to the west.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:23:10 2014 No.7834467

>>7834167
Of course you can be a fashionable/lolita Muslim but that goes against the idea of wearing a hijab. Many Muslim women don't wear hijabs at all. Lolita and the idea of modesty behind the hijab completely contradict each other, is that so hard to understand?

Honestly I'd like this girl a lot better if she jumped on the long underskirt bandwagon so we didn't have to see those frumpy jeans of hers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:26:37 2014 No.7834477 >>7834467 Is being modest the same as witholding from vanity? Lolita is rather vain, but I'm not very sure about the modesty. It's very flashy, but at the same time it's not about being sexy or showing off your body.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:31:15 2014 No.7834490
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>>7834442
Wikipedia on Arabic Numerals: "This system is traditionally thought to have been adopted by the Muslim Persian and Arab mathematicians in India, and passed on to the Arabs further west. There is some evidence which suggests that the numerals in their current form developed from Arabic letters in the western regions of the Arab World." So while in India, it was Muslims who developed the system.

Either way around it, the ultra-conservative thing in the Middle East is relatively recent. As in, started by western powers inserting ultra-conservative governmental officials who took relatively liberal states back several hundred years.

Pic related.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:32:38 2014 No.7834494

>>7834225
She literally just told them that they can't give ANY (non-asspatting) opinion because the person in the picture might take it as criticism, poor babbu. And it's even worse when you suggest something to help them improve!

>>7834279
Naw anon they said you can't give opinions at all. So actually "nice coord!" isn't allowed either?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:33:29 2014 No.7834497 File: 107 KB, 720x720, 10603290_706457806080_4614777641640197571_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7833755 SO back on topic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:36:38 2014 No.7834507 File: 84 KB, 480x640, tumblr_lyswogwP4d1r1xcmko1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834497

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:37:11 2014 No.7834508

>>7834490
Such a shame :/ I just googled Afghanistan 1970 and there are pictures of little girls in school uniforms reading books, now in 2014 there are girls getting shot for going to school like Malala Yousafzai in Pakistan (happened a few years back but still relevant).

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:37:17 2014 No.7834510 >>7834497 I saw this and came so close to writing NOT LOLITA!!111! 34955 times underneath

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:37:42 2014 No.7834511 File: 28 KB, 313x480, tumblr_mf88igftbJ1s0jpnko1_400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:37:42 2014 No.7834512 >>7834494 >they said you can't give opinions at all. So actually "nice coord!" isn't allowed either? Someone should point out the fact that opinions aren't only mean.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:38:45 2014 No.7834516 >>7834497 >>7813664

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:38:45 2014 No.7834517 File: 94 KB, 449x750, tumblr_mfsnobufwy1s0jpnko1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834511

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:39:42 2014 No.7834519 >>7834497 Eh I'd like this if it wasn't tagged as Lolita, but I'm also tacky as hell and love stars

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:39:49 2014 No.7834521 File: 46 KB, 500x667, tumblr_mfx4joNwOI1s0jpnko1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834517

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:41:09 2014 No.7834522 File: 61 KB, 420x750, tumblr_mk9l66AOXw1s0jpnko1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834521

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:41:27 2014 No.7834523 >>7834490 Damn, those girls are fuckin' stylin'.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:44:42 2014 No.7834527
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>>7834477
Yes. Modesty isn't just not showing off your tits, it's not showing off at all. Chastity is the opposite of lust, and modesty (humility) is the opposite of pride. As an example, see dear old Henry here. He's not showing off his body but he sure as hell isn't being modest. Likewise someone wearing a niche fashion that involves very large skirts and eye-searing pastels (in a context where this is far from the norm) is not being particularly modest. That doesn't make it BAD but if you're trying to make a point about being modest and non-provocative with your head and legwear then you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot with lolita.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:45:27 2014 No.7834528

>>7834461
So you believe that no scientific progress was made ever until the 1600s? Uh, right.

And why the fuck would you need a source on the Indians inventing the current numeric system? Are you seriously retarded? Open any history textbook. Google it. Ask a historian. It's very obvious who made the current system. Yes, other civilizations independently made other numeric systems, but that has absolutely nothing to do with our conversation. Even if you were right, the Arabs bringing the Indian's numerals to the West is not a scientific advancement.

Jesus you are seriously making a fool out of yourself, go enroll in World History 101 at your local community college and just stop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:47:32 2014 No.7834531 >>7834507 Narutard cosplay itas are my favourite kind of itas. >>7834512 Clearly compliments aren't opinions, they're fact! Because EVERYONE is a totemo kawaii lolita-chan regardless of what they're wearing ! ^______^

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:52:58 2014 No.7834546 File: 451 KB, 347x528, tumblr_mtn08dQdIy1s0jpnko1_400.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834522

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:53:09 2014 No.7834547 >>7834490 >"adopted by the Muslim Persian and Arab mathematicians in India" That means they took it from the Indians, not invented it. That's what adopted means.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 15:53:46 2014 No.7834548 File: 138 KB, 480x640, tumblr_ncaazpZz6O1tczrh9o4_r1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Found in the casual lolita tag, tagged otome kei. Girl, what?

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Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:01:52 2014 No.7834568
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>>7834307
>age of enlightenment never happened in majority islamic countries

hate to break it to you dogg but the muslims had their shit figured out while your ancestors were still shitting all over themselves and wondering why they all kept getting sick

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:07:54 2014 No.7834579 >>7834252 What is cultural and familial pressure and expectations

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:10:47 2014 No.7834587 >>7834568 And just look where we are now.

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Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:24:21 2014 No.7834614

>>7834568
The Age of Enlightenment has nothing to do with the conversation because it was the name of a cultural movement in Europe.

What do you think "having your shit figured out" means, anyways? That's not what the Age of Enlightenment is! It was a movement that rejected superstition and tradition. It's about cultural values and ideas, not having your "shit figured out".

Also, if by "shitting all over themselves and wondering why they all kept getting sick" you mean Europe in the midst of the Bubonic Plague, you're in the wrong time frame. Age of Enlightenment doesn't come until a few centuries after.

There's so much cringe reading this thread because every side of this argument is totally uninformed... do you guys happen to be high schoolers? Minors aren't allowed on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:31:59 2014 No.7834624 >>7834511 jesus christ why

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:36:38 2014 No.7834637 File: 165 KB, 250x331, tumblr_nbzf4tuTVB1ttna5xo1_250.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >#not proper lolita but fuck you im kawaii Pfffft

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:38:57 2014 No.7834640 >>7834402 Some styles of wearing the hijab show parts of the hair, like where you would have bangs usually. Its a cultural thing sometimes, or whatever is seen as fashionable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:39:17 2014 No.7834641 >>7834497 I dig that skirt. Not lolita though. That kinda looks like Eljay though? She should know better...unless that's a doppelgänger...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:42:48 2014 No.7834647 >>7834507 I don't know what the thing on the left is but girl on the right is cute and soooo close!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:43:56 2014 No.7834649 >>7834511 She looks so sad to be wearing that. I would be too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:45:13 2014 No.7834650 >>7834637 ew, whats going on with her eyebrows??

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:46:07 2014 No.7834653

>>7834637
There is fucking nothing lolita about this. I don't care if that thing thinks it's kawaii, this still isn't fucking lolita. I almost feel like tumblrtards tag shit as lolita just to get notes because it doesn't fall under any actual fashion. I know that rules and stuff aren't 100% but there still has to be basic things that set lolita apart from fluffy dresses and people need to understand that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:47:10 2014 No.7834656 >>7834650 She doesn't have them anon, she's kawaii without them desu~ ^___^

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:48:39 2014 No.7834659 File: 94 KB, 500x500, tumblr_nc92x9R6GW1rjfqp7o1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:49:51 2014 No.7834660 File: 87 KB, 500x500, tumblr_nc7y112tUD1rjfqp7o1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834659 better hat detail

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:54:17 2014 No.7834669 File: 80 KB, 500x500, tumblr_nbx3szT63s1qctd7uo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:54:35 2014 No.7834671 File: 85 KB, 500x500, tumblr_nc0cudz10R1r1ngifo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:55:20 2014 No.7834672 File: 36 KB, 299x400, tumblr_inline_nbrnvmpZFX1qj8zlk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 16:56:06 2014 No.7834674 File: 58 KB, 500x500, tumblr_nbyevmVNe11qcmqefo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] tagged lolitafashion

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:03:01 2014 No.7834694 File: 65 KB, 600x900, 10294246_1474726149437532_6772968793449357167_n[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7833755 Ita. Ita never changes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:05:02 2014 No.7834697 File: 565 KB, 517x580, Screen Shot 2014-09-22 at 5.04.15 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:06:36 2014 No.7834700 File: 310 KB, 1280x1457, tumblr_nca745Oi7l1qff491o1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:07:49 2014 No.7834705 File: 260 KB, 1280x1440, tumblr_nca745Oi7l1qff491o2_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:12:23 2014 No.7834725 File: 179 KB, 500x667, tumblr_nbja0cfEQe1tzklk9o1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:14:52 2014 No.7834734 File: 847 KB, 1280x1707, tumblr_nc7rtmkR7x1thpni0o5_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not the worst I've seen but there's a lot of work to be done.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:15:02 2014 No.7834735 >>7833755 The funny thing is that she says she chooses customers to model for her, but only one of her models here actually wears her stuff.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:17:14 2014 No.7834743 >>7834735 Maybe that's her only customer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:19:51 2014 No.7834749 File: 139 KB, 640x640, tumblr_nc3yuediAR1qfgn8ho1_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This looks gigantic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:21:35 2014 No.7834757 >>7834749 The bg confuses me but its not ita, its all coordinated and she looks fine. No random blue blouse or lace monsters ... its fine

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:28:39 2014 No.7834778 >>7834522 So sad because she's so cute and so excited! I wan to dress her up in my brand!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:29:01 2014 No.7834780 >>7834167 I wish the entire lolita community stopped praising and patronizing girls wearing that muslim stuff and started helping them to get stronger and give up all that bullcrap because it is obsolete, sexist, offensive and demeaning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:32:09 2014 No.7834787 >>7834522 grimes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:32:49 2014 No.7834789 >>7834780 aay lmao

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:32:57 2014 No.7834790

>>7834579
(person you are responding to) I wouldn't call that "forced" but I guess it's a semantic argument. Expected, encouraged, yes - but "forced" sounds like something more extreme than I would expect from someone who clearly has a lot of personal freedom with their clothing choices and socialization.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:35:40 2014 No.7834797 >>7834700 That doll is dressed better than her

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:45:02 2014 No.7834820 >>7834780 +1

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 17:50:14 2014 No.7834837 >>7834527 >Fancy gold-detailed codpiece >Not showing off his body

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 18:41:15 2014 No.7834922 >>7834749 She's cute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 19:23:01 2014 No.7835026 >>7834705 Different shoes, some makeup, and no dolls, this would have been passable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 19:30:10 2014 No.7835046 >>7834389 The top half is cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 19:52:39 2014 No.7835105 File: 109 KB, 735x466, watwhy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] can a video concept be ita? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIWWuKcT-yc

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 19:54:04 2014 No.7835107 >>7834700 Requesting name of dress?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 19:57:47 2014 No.7835119 >>7835107 Metamorphose Twinkle Journey

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 19:58:10 2014 No.7835120 >>7835119 Cheers mate!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:00:12 2014 No.7835125 >>7835107 >>7835119 Adding, it's the OP cut: http://lolibrary.org/apparel/twinkle-journey-op

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:01:35 2014 No.7835130 >>7835120 Also adding, because I keep forgetting to post shit, I'm pretty sure hers is a replica (the lace on the bodice looks wrong and the frill isn't chiffon?)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:02:24 2014 No.7835134 >>7835125 >>7835130 Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:02:57 2014 No.7835135 >>7835105 ....cringing so hard

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:16:24 2014 No.7835168

>>7834527
Thank you. Lolita fashion is modest only in the sexual definition, and is certainly not modest in terms of money.

In Christianity, Paul wrote about modesty in terms of the latter definition: avoid showing off your wealth by wearing jewelry and lavish clothes. By dress modestly, he meant dress normally, even if you happened to be rich.

Over time, with cultural changes and with the biblical texts going through multiple translations, people began to assume that it was sexual modesty that was more important for Christian women, especially Christian women who were royalty, who needed to occasionally dress up for political reasons. (And let's be frank: even nowadays showing off your Hermes purse at work, or flashing bling in your music video, is an overt display of wealth and thus implies a certain kind of power). Even men among the lesser-royals in Europe would sometimes starve themselves to make sure they had enough money for a new set of clothes every week/month, so that they wouldn't be shamed in court for being poor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:23:51 2014 No.7835182 Seriously, though, can we not have thus thread derailed by debates on history and religion? Post more itas, bitches

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 20:58:55 2014 No.7835246

>>7835168
>Paul wrote about modesty in terms of the latter definition: avoid showing off your wealth by wearing jewelry and lavish clothes. By dress modestly, he meant dress normally, even if you happened to be rich.

Actually, Paul was talking to Timothy concerning the church Timothy watched over, specifically telling the church being addressed in that current day and age. Girls would get all dressed up crazy-fancy and show off when they went to worship, distracting people and missing the point in it themselves because they were so caught up being vain.

It's probably one of the more common verses being taken out of context, giving various Christian sects rules that don't let women dress up and wear makeup and stuff.

Common mistake.

>sage for OT

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:10:57 2014 No.7835266 >>7834389 I need those shoes. Anyone got sauce?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:12:08 2014 No.7835273 >>7833755 oh man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:14:27 2014 No.7835278 >>7834694 idk, this isn't too bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:22:35 2014 No.7835294 >>7835182 >>7835182 >last thread derailed by pseudo-psychological theories on why itas act the way the do >this thread derailed by religion and history I like it. Keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:28:55 2014 No.7835303 >>7834734 Nitpick. Very noobish, but I feel this new wave of lolita fail to grasp what an ita is. Then again, I've been into the fashion since 2004 so when we had bad it was really really bad >Capcha: Ita in land Lol

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:35:24 2014 No.7835316

>>7834128
AMEN!! Finally someone who agrees with me! I don't understand how wearing lolita appropriate leg wear is 'revealing'. especialy think socks or stockings, not crappy half transparent ones. And the material in the jeans is so wrong as well. a softer more 'lolita' material would be much nicer for this coord.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:45:20 2014 No.7835335 >>7834241 I've seen headscarfs work in lolita before, but jeans? Oh CGL, look how fall we have fallen

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:47:28 2014 No.7835341 >>7834389 Someone hover lolify this please? Top half is fine, it's the lower half that kills this

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:48:11 2014 No.7835344 >>7834172 it looks like a rake on her head

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:52:06 2014 No.7835350 >>7833893 The hair/make up would be cool for some kind of artsy photoshoot thing. Otherwise It's kind of a hot mess.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:53:06 2014 No.7835352 >>7834757 I don't think it's monstrously bad or anything, but this girl needs a petti something fierce. That pulling-out-the-skirt pose really annoys me, if you know your skirt needs to be fuller, don't fucking wear it until you get a petticoat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:53:47 2014 No.7835354 >>7834531 Right? They remind me of a simpler time

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:56:18 2014 No.7835361 >>7834797 BJDs 95% of the time usually are

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 21:59:44 2014 No.7835368 >>7835246 All I've gathered from both conversations is that Christianity and Islam seem to dislike women a lot

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:08:42 2014 No.7835390 >>7835105 what the hell that scared the shit out of me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:16:50 2014 No.7835408 >>7834059 It doesn't even fucking matter. The way I see it is that is keeps providing entertainment to those that like the ita threads. It's like they want the itas to get posted here. They know the deal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:23:36 2014 No.7835426 File: 13 KB, 240x210, 3edgy5me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835105

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:26:55 2014 No.7835431

>>7834128
I think she should try jeggings. The material is much softer and they would still be quite modest. And I agree with the other anon. There is just too much white.
Noor seems like a sweet girl, and she is faced with quite the imposition. She's a Muslim woman that loves lolita fashion. She's trying to live in both worlds and still enjoy herself while not breaking the guidelines of her religion.
There is another Muslim girl in one of the California comms I think. I believe she wears tights. But she may be from another branch of Islam. And the code of dress and so on varies from group to group.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:28:49 2014 No.7835436 >>7835105 I want those precious moments of my life back.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:30:44 2014 No.7835438

>>7834787
I actually did see a picture of Grimes in what looked like some serious ita before, actually, though I don't know if that's what she was actually going for. Can't find it now, though, just happened upon it by chance in /mu/ while I was on my old laptop.

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:33:49 2014 No.7835444
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>>7835438
googel.
Sort of can't stand but am fascinated with her. Never heard her music either. I love how she is like, this super over-bred upper class pretty photogenic person in the internets world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:38:01 2014 No.7835451 File: 302 KB, 400x504, faggot.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834357 .

Anonymous Mon Sep 22 22:44:43 2014 No.7835459

>>7834527
You just hit the nail on the head. It's about pride. It's excessively expensive as well. So in a sense, she's already breaking the rules. That is of course unless it is within her means to buy the fashion. Then the rules do change some. However, it does draw attention and could create a whim of vanity. I'm glad anon posted this because people take these terms out of context or don't fully understand the concept in general.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 23:34:34 2014 No.7835525 File: 104 KB, 960x755, 1213123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835444

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 23:37:12 2014 No.7835529 File: 104 KB, 960x755, 1213123.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835444

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 22 23:58:45 2014 No.7835564 File: 71 KB, 639x960, 1509710_10204341078388587_3617337473712737496_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy shit who the fuck cares Let her express her religious values however the fuck she wants Get back to posting itas you fucking trogs

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 00:03:55 2014 No.7835575 >>7834674 her sword is neat

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 00:04:37 2014 No.7835578 >>7834837 >>7834527 Cod pieces are so fucking funny, like who the hell thought that having this piece of clothing to make it seem like I have a GIANT ERECTION? Henry was the best, he just made fashion to be big and blocky because he was getting fat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 00:21:48 2014 No.7835613 File: 45 KB, 484x293, uh oh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834234 Let's see if these two get banned by mods for being meanies. > No concrit! Not even on rules!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 00:22:59 2014 No.7835617 >>7834508 Why would those things have anything to do with each other at all for any reason. Afghanistan and Pakistan aren't even on the same continent. You fucking XXXXXXXXL bodyline jsk filled with human excrement idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 00:26:55 2014 No.7835625 >>7834697 She looks like she's about to start nomming on her umbrella.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 00:48:06 2014 No.7835665 >>7834548 She looks like Little Richard. I'm so sorry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:05:44 2014 No.7835690 File: 45 KB, 492x341, 1403969462096.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834637 >fuck you im kawaii

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:10:30 2014 No.7835693 >>7834568 What is with all this NIGGER shit? What the hell is wrong with you fags?

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:14:48 2014 No.7835699

>>7835444
>photogenic

Don't let /mu/ see that.

Not the anon you're replying to, but I love Grimes and her music, and this makes me love her even more. A little part of me wishes that she delved into lolita though.

idk, I've always fantasized someone with artistic talent (actor, musician) who happened to wear lolita well and not surround their art with it (I'm looking at you Misako).

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:30:39 2014 No.7835719
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>>7835699
btw, she's 24 now, so if this was taken back in high school, I imagine this was sort something we would have seen straight out of an old Kera snaps or FRUiTs magazine. I wish I knew where the dress came from; it reminds me of something Algonquins, BPN, or Marble would have made. This seems like a one-time thing though, but it makes sense that she happened upon this style (or lack thereof? lol) because she's from Vancouver.

Fuck, I'm old.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:34:37 2014 No.7835725 >>7834225 You know that's bloodmyer right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:41:37 2014 No.7835737 >>7835617 Are you trolling, or just unaware of basic geography? Pakistan and Afghanistan are right next to one another. They share a border.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:42:39 2014 No.7835739 >>7835725 Which one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:51:25 2014 No.7835748 >>7835617 Wat is geografy ? Skool ? Neva eard of dat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 01:57:05 2014 No.7835751 >>7835719 that's baby, cherry ribbon sundress. it's on my wishlist actually

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:09:43 2014 No.7835766

>>7834389
Would it be possible for muslims to have more volumous hairstyles under the hijab? Even if it's not showing her hair, I think it'd be an improvement because she looks like she's wearing a damn bald cap underneath. I've seen more elaboroate ways of tying the headscarf which I think would look good with lolita but apparently strict muslims can't even do that idk.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:19:40 2014 No.7835780 >>7835739 Antoinette

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:21:01 2014 No.7835784

>>7834490
My mum went to Afghanistan in the 70s and she wore a head scarf, loose pants and a tunic long enough to cover her butt/crotch all for modesty (which was fairly modest back then compared to now), but men there would just grope her on the street in plain view because I guess a whitey is a western whore. Fucking despicable.

I hate the fucking burkas and hijabs women have to wear. It's essentially telling women that their very being is distracting, sinful and inherently sexual, which is just disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:22:14 2014 No.7835786 I don't understand why Miss Kittiness does a runway show every year but never makes anything new. >>7834694 - last years runway show >>7833755 - this years runway show 2 of the girls in the middle are even wearing the same dresses!

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:44:17 2014 No.7835816

>>7835766
agreed, i honestly think the condom shaped head is what make those coords so bad, even more than the jeans. it looks so unbalanced with the puff of the skirt, there's a reason why most fashions involving hijabs use simple lines and flowing fabrics

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:57:19 2014 No.7835827 File: 143 KB, 719x1280, tumblr_nbpnb9Pzpv1r9hudxo2_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835368 Yes. Picture was tagged under the "lolita coords" search.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 02:58:28 2014 No.7835829 File: 484 KB, 1280x1707, tumblr_nc8l30Z10g1tjeucxo3_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835827

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:02:07 2014 No.7835833 >>7835725 Who?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:09:35 2014 No.7835842 >>7834694 >at least their hair improved????

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:28:39 2014 No.7835863 File: 124 KB, 640x960, 10312437_1484680068459302_380696422461146281_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:41:20 2014 No.7835877 >>7835863 >Oh it can't be that bad >Opens file >JFC That's horrifying Hasn't this guy been posted before? Why does he wear his dress like that? Why?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:43:45 2014 No.7835879 File: 94 KB, 640x960, 599150_425211250846932_632081364_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835786 And this was 2012.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 03:58:42 2014 No.7835903 >>7835877 That's the infamous "Melissa". He has been posted over and over because he never improves. He claims to be transgendered but never even tries to look passable. We suspect he has some fetish since he brought in a even creepier dude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:03:31 2014 No.7835910 >>7833755 >>7834694 >>7835879 >nothing new in two years Awkward... Why does she think people want to see that stuff, not just once but THREE times? "Oh look, it's that really underwhelming dress from two years ago again, how fun"

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:04:39 2014 No.7835912
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>>7835368
I was talking about people who take scripture out of its context and make it fit into their own ideals despite what the original text meant.

But, even so, when it all comes down to it, you're not wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:12:03 2014 No.7835923 File: 1.67 MB, 330x312, tumblr_n6fvwtTg5r1rks5xoo1_400.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834743

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 04:47:15 2014 No.7835950 >>7835786 This. Their dresses are so underwhelmingly plain and itatastic. Their page on the RAW artist thing was super cringe worthy too.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 05:32:57 2014 No.7835993

>>7835766
>>7835816
As said in EVERY THREAD that a hijab is mentioned, some sects allow for a 'volumous' hijab whereas in others it is seen as provocative and not allowed.
She isn't allowed one, or she would have done it a long time ago. Honestly, I'm surprised she has bows on.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 05:57:48 2014 No.7836021

>>7835564
This isn't lolita in any way and the comments were just "oh so cute ^___^" "oh you should have a lil bit more poof" "ahhh totoro!!" I fucking hate CoF why can't i bring myself to leave

>>7835833
Googling says she lies and scams, and is supposedly banned from every uk comm.
She used to do tutorials and stuff on youtube, iirc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 06:30:32 2014 No.7836052 >>7835877 >>7835863 You know how people scream about fat bitches ruining their brand? This is more painful than any fatty, his rib cage is just too big so he kinda makes it like a high waisted skirt, oh god it's just horrible.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 06:33:11 2014 No.7836055 >>7835751 I don't think anon was talking about that dress, I think they were talking about >>7835444, that reminds me of Marble anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 06:39:18 2014 No.7836057 >>7835613 Haha, knew I'd end up here

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 07:19:45 2014 No.7836090 >>7836052 I'll take fatty-chan over terrible brolita anyday

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 07:26:26 2014 No.7836097 >>7835780 Wow seriously? The same Bloodmyer that blows up at the slightest mention that she should maybe brush her wig? Is there something in the water in England that makes people into complete hypocrites?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 07:41:46 2014 No.7836105 >>7836097 The very same. I just ignore any and all suggestions given by her as she cant dress for shit and her con crit is normally useless

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 07:45:59 2014 No.7836106

>>7835993
excuse me oh wise one, from all the other threads it seemed they weren't allowed flashy fancy attention seeking designs such as patterns, ornate folds and jewels etc (which kinda makes dressing lolita a no go too) im sure having a seemingly wider head wouldn't be too bad

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 07:48:53 2014 No.7836108 >>7836106 >not finding slightly wider heads irresistibly arousing anon pls

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 07:56:05 2014 No.7836112 >>7836090 you mean *sissy he aint brolita

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 08:05:08 2014 No.7836119 >>7835950 The best part is she actually opened up a physical store to sell her stuff, but got tired of having no customers so now it's only open by appointment. She doesn't even have an online shop, not that it'd help.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 09:00:28 2014 No.7836166 >>7834389 I think she looks fine in jeans and I personally don't mind it at all but for fucks sake get them hemmed they look so fucking baggy around the knees and ankles jesus christ

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 09:36:41 2014 No.7836201 >>7835863 I swear thus bitch looks like the brolita in our comm. The only reason I can tell them apart is that Melissa wears brand while ours only wears a god awful milanoo monster.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 09:41:24 2014 No.7836205 >>7835564 >dat broken ankle pose

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 09:44:11 2014 No.7836210 >>7835993 If a more voluminous /flashy/ headscarf isn't allowed, why does she insist on wearing a characteristically flashy fashion with it???? It's so goddamn contradictory and it looks fucking stupid to boot. The aesthic doesn't match at all

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 10:03:35 2014 No.7836244 >>7835368 Yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 10:03:53 2014 No.7836245 >>7834558 Why do girls wear these hats with lolita? It never works.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 10:16:22 2014 No.7836268 >>7836201 Dutch comm? Ours does look very similar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 10:41:47 2014 No.7836305 >>7836021 Now since that rule change, I decided to leave cof finally. I swear, it's going to end up all office button downs; and circle skirts with no petticoats. Everyone "you look so cute!".

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:01:05 2014 No.7836335 >>7836021 So much cringe on her DA

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:10:14 2014 No.7836350 >>7835578 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN65uLXegeI >>7835564 I like when there is some cool, level-headed discussion. If this thread would be just pictures it'd be boring as hell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:21:33 2014 No.7836371 >>7836245 Why do people wear these hats (outside of the military/police uniform context) at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:37:12 2014 No.7836392 >>7836119 having an online shop might have helped. i've seen way shittier ~brands~ more successful than hers simply because they're online

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:40:17 2014 No.7836399 >>7836268 They could be brothers or creepy uncles or something. They look very alike.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:40:34 2014 No.7836400 >>7835751 >>7836055 Yeah, I wasn't talking about what Grimes wear wearing. Other than that, La Sardina is forever ita, no matter what brand she wears.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:42:28 2014 No.7836402 >>7836268 Dutch comm indeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 11:45:35 2014 No.7836405 >>7834659 >>7834660 This looks like a nitpick? She could have worn more accessories, worn tights and the hat could have been ditched for something else, but it's not ita, imo. >>7834749 Same here. Not ita, but maybe a different blouse?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 12:04:09 2014 No.7836441 File: 104 KB, 488x679, debate1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835613 Looks like the admin and this other chick nearly exploded when someone asked for a vote to give people a choice on this rule change.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 12:05:12 2014 No.7836445 [DELETED]

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>>7836441
The thread is now controlled so no one can comment anymore.

"Anyways, the admin team is closing this thread to any further comments. All comments below this will be deleted without question. This was a rule change and honestly it was not up for discussion. Thanks for understanding"

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 12:06:14 2014 No.7836448

>>7836350
>that voice
I-is this written out somewhere? I'm actually quite interested in the subject material (historical crotches are my jam) but I can't listen to that voice for more than a few seconds.

>>7836392
Considering the shit that sells on Etsy I think she could be moderately successful online. Isn't an online store much cheaper to maintain than a physical one, anyway?

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 12:08:23 2014 No.7836453
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>>7836441
"Anyways, the admin team is closing this thread to any further comments. All comments below this will be deleted without question. This was a rule change and honestly it was not up for discussion. Thanks for understanding"

So much for people having a choice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 12:10:55 2014 No.7836457 >>7835105 okok this is super cringy but the ending parts did get a chuckle out of me

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 12:14:00 2014 No.7836464 >>7833755 WTF is this? This can't be a serious business can it?

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 12:16:13 2014 No.7836473

>>7836441
>non-ironic "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all"
>expecting people to be able to take constructive criticism is bullying and toxic behaviour in the lolita community
sigh

>>7836453
Bloodmyer is making sense for once. If someone posts her coord to CoF looking like shit but is receptive to concrit, it is much less likely that she'll be posted in an ita thread. If telling someone that their coord can use some improvement is against the ruuruus then people will just take their frustrations to /cgl/ and post the person in an ita thread. Plus, that person probably won't improve, so next time they post they will again end up in the ita thread.
Sounds like this rule is bad for the lolita community as a whole but good for /cgl/ ita threads.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:28:53 2014 No.7836653 [DELETED]

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>>7836473
She may have been an idiot in the past like a year or two ago but I think she's finally grown up. Not just in attitude but in appearance too. It's nice to see her mature, it took her fucking long enough. Also she should know more than anyone about looking shit and being posted to 4chan, it's link she finally took the hint and improved. Success for the /cgl/ ita threads on this one.

>>7836453
>>7836441

On the same topic I agree too, she is 100% right. If you post a shit coordinate to CoF's, someone will say something even if it's just "This could use a blouse" and if you look extra shit to /cgl/ you may be placed. I think all this started because of that GRANNY lolita the one who said she was 33 but looked 50. She got a world of concrit and some obviously nasty comments as well as that Milanoo girl. That Milanoo girl (pic related) got a whole debate after she brown noised the company. She even went so far as to say people might of made up bad reviews.

I think the two of them must have complained and that is why the admin is now changing the rules. I have to say this Alesha looks like an idiot, concrit or not, if you look shit you may be posted to /cgl/. She's talking as if saying "concrit not welcome" will stop you being posted when in fact it'll make it worse. Think of it this way, an Ita post's a coordinate to CoF and say "no concrit" well /cgl/ will concrit them for sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:29:16 2014 No.7836656 >>7836473 Bloodmyer is actually the poster of >>7836441 And >>7836453 Obviously looking for /cgl asspats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:30:30 2014 No.7836661 >>7835613 that Nikita girl is spot on, though. too bad nobody's going to listen.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:30:34 2014 No.7836663

>>7836473
She may have been an idiot in the past like a year or two ago but I think she's finally grown up. Not just in attitude but in appearance too. It's nice to see her mature, it took her fucking long enough. Also she should know more than anyone about looking shit and being posted to 4chan, it's like she finally took the hint and improved. Success for the /cgl/ ita threads on this one.

>>7836453
>>7836441

On the same topic I agree too, she is 100% right. If you post a shit coordinate to CoF's, someone will say something even if it's just "This could use a blouse" and if you look extra shit to /cgl/ you may be placed. I think all this started because of that GRANNY lolita the one who said she was 33 but looked 50. She got a world of concrit and some obviously nasty comments as well as that Milanoo girl. That Milanoo girl (pic related) got a whole debate after she brown noised the company. She even went so far as to say people might of made up bad reviews.

I think the two of them must have complained and that is why the admin is now changing the rules. I have to say this Alesha looks like an idiot, concrit or not, if you look shit you may be posted to /cgl/. She's talking as if saying "concrit not welcome" will stop you being posted when in fact it'll make it worse. Think of it this way, an Ita post's a coordinate to CoF and say "no concrit" well /cgl/ will concrit them for sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:31:44 2014 No.7836665 File: 50 KB, 398x720, 10599596_4942930949137_8308280411695513568_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7836663 dropped my pic >>7836661 Well said.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:33:49 2014 No.7836670 >>7836656 Beautiful. Cringe intensifies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:35:39 2014 No.7836671 >>7836670 I'm pretty sure she's not that stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:38:46 2014 No.7836680 File: 79 KB, 300x400, 000015as.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7834389 Surely if you were a Muslim, a strict one, you wouldn't even wear lolita.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:40:19 2014 No.7836683 File: 42 KB, 267x400, 600_174743422.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:41:56 2014 No.7836685 File: 100 KB, 600x553, 44392_600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:43:07 2014 No.7836689 File: 94 KB, 500x667, 1371079747225.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nitpick?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:45:36 2014 No.7836696 File: 95 KB, 677x960, 1391478109648.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:47:02 2014 No.7836700 File: 196 KB, 960x720, 1405803460131.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7835863 >>7836268 I totally see it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:47:16 2014 No.7836701 File: 102 KB, 720x960, 1400544059228.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:48:06 2014 No.7836702 File: 440 KB, 1196x1773, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7836671 But she clearly is. Go look at the likes yourself. >>7836453 and pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:48:56 2014 No.7836705 >>7836700 Can not unsee.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:51:46 2014 No.7836712 [DELETED]

>>7836702
So? She liked something in a thread she was talking in and even liked the closing post. Sorry but for once I disagree with you. Just because she's talking publicly on fb does not mean it is her. If yu can't tell MANY people have posted on the chan about this topic. You gonna claim they are ALL her? I find that hard to believe.

>>7835613
>>7834234
>>7834225
>>7834223

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:52:53 2014 No.7836716 >>7836689 She'd look fine if she lost the hat and took two seconds to better her posture (roll shoulders up, backwards, then down to rest).

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:53:04 2014 No.7836718 [DELETED]

Anonymous 09/23/14(Tue)18:51:46 No.7836712 ▶

>>7836702
So? She liked something in a thread she was talking in and even liked the closing post. Sorry but for once I disagree with you. Just because she's talking publicly on fb does not mean it is her. If you can't tell MANY people have posted on the chan about this topic. You gonna claim they are ALL her? I find that hard to believe.

>>7835613
>>7834234
>>7834225
>>7834223

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:54:17 2014 No.7836723

>>7836702
So? She liked something in a thread she was talking in and even liked the closing post. Sorry but for once I disagree with you. Just because she's talking publicly on fb does not mean it is her. If yu can't tell MANY people have posted on the chan about this topic. You gonna claim they are ALL her? I find that hard to believe.

>>7835613
>>7834234
>>7834225
>>7834223

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:55:41 2014 No.7836728 File: 60 KB, 800x600, bexbo0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:56:53 2014 No.7836730 File: 464 KB, 713x586, blag1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 13:58:17 2014 No.7836735 File: 1.85 MB, 2000x1333, img0032kopie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:00:56 2014 No.7836740 File: 202 KB, 467x700, tumblr_lu0dh4geoF1qad55j.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does anyone have a pick of this worn by someone else?

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:01:08 2014 No.7836742

>>7836453
>People who don't want concrit won't listen anyways

That is so much bullshit though. If people are never criticized then they never know what they're doing is wrong. Sure, some people are stubborn and stupid, but for a lot of people, they might not even know a different perspective existed, so they would never look to ask for it. As far as I am concerned, and how I was raised to think, purposely presenting yourself to a group subjects you to the groups opinions, whether you like it or not. Censoring opinions isn't going to even change the way people feel, it's just going to change where the feeling is directed. I'm almost 100% sure that these people would rather someone tell them to their face something was a tiny bit off rather than get posted here without anyone telling them anything.

The close mindedness of these people is really starting to piss me off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:01:49 2014 No.7836744 File: 110 KB, 441x549, brandita.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7836055 my bad >eternal shame

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:01:50 2014 No.7836745 >>7836453 Is that her basically admitting she posts here? I thought she was supposed to be all sweet and sparkles and would never pick on anybody like those meaaaan anons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:03:41 2014 No.7836751 >>7836742 So start a new group then if it bothers you, if people really want a con crit group then make one it takes like three clicks.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:03:51 2014 No.7836752

>>7836718
Your stupid. It says right here in her own cap. >>7836453
Next to the mods post "I'll discuss it with the other admins." ( unlike - 1)
She is the only person who as liked it obvious by >>7836702 anons post.
The point is, she is coming here for praise, not for discussion. I find it amusing she is trying to reject the new rule so she can continue to criticise while not being able to take criticism herself.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:05:48 2014 No.7836759

>>7836742
>>7836745
Maybe people do not want crit. Maybe they would prefer their bubbles and stuff? We all post here to 4chan but in a way it helps. Most people who see it will see their outfits and improve.
Maybe we should start making "ita improvement threads" and give hard cold crit.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:07:01 2014 No.7836764

>>7836751
It's not about that, it's the fact that every facet of the internet is being washed over by this super special snowflake feels protection agency. This kind of attitude is toxic and all it's doing is making people have inflated fragile egos that will burst once someone says something they don't want to hear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:07:09 2014 No.7836765 File: 55 KB, 400x366, Muslim_Lolita_at_London_Expo_by_Aira_sakura.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:08:23 2014 No.7836769 >>7836764 Maybe then you should make a new thread like >>7836759 an ita improvement thread does not sound like a bad idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:10:43 2014 No.7836776 >>7836759 Yes, an ita to lolita production factory sounds great. Should be a place for them to improve unless they don't want to improve and continue being ita's we ignore them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:11:29 2014 No.7836782 >>7836776 >ita's

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:14:10 2014 No.7836786 >>7836782 It could be an excuse to filter out the crappy coordinates.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:15:22 2014 No.7836790 >>7836786 No anon, there doesn't need to be an apostrophe in that word, it just needs to be itas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:17:31 2014 No.7836794 >>7836782 That was not needed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:27:15 2014 No.7836826 >>7836790 Wrong anon or were you trying to make a joke?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 14:31:02 2014 No.7836837 >>7836826 >>7836794 >B-but guys g-grammar is not important though r-right? That's just for bakas!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:13:09 2014 No.7836980 >>7836730 This from that dragon persons blog on how to not ita your bodyline right? That page was ridiculous especially when we get down to her example coords hahahaha

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:15:52 2014 No.7836990 >>7836350 Men's fashion was so great, what happen? :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:25:17 2014 No.7837020 >>7836765 the girl on the far left actually looks kind of decently oldschool >just my personal onion though

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:26:56 2014 No.7837030 >>7836701 I will never forget her shit talking itas at that con while wearing this amazing ensemble. The bottom half was just as awful if I remember correctly.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:37:42 2014 No.7837058 >>7836305 I'd love to spam the group with clearly non-Lolita shit and see if they keep with their NO CONCRIT rule.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:42:32 2014 No.7837072 >>7837058 DO IT!

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:48:32 2014 No.7837090

>>7837058
I am honestly so tempted to do this. I'm a lone lolita and have practically no online presence so it wouldn't seem as suspicious, but I'd also need to make a brand new FB account since I don't have one at the moment.

My work closet consists entirely of girlish but mainstream OL blouses and slightly voluminous knee-length skirts. Those are totes rori, right? Pls no criticism let's all be frans ^____^
Unfortunately that does mean I could only pull of boring not-lolita and no true itatastic abominations which sounds much less fun. Also honestly I think it would work a lot better if I were fat or otherwise more tumblrcore and oppressed-looking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:54:08 2014 No.7837094 >>7837090 I'm black and have a green afro and a few tattoos, so I may make a fake account and root through my wardrobe for some ita pieces.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 15:56:34 2014 No.7837109 >>7836448 What is so terrible about that voice?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:01:24 2014 No.7837126 >>7837094 /r/ing a picture of you in lolita? You made me curious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:03:52 2014 No.7837134 >>7836700 His hand...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:06:05 2014 No.7837147 >>7836683 This is cute

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:09:00 2014 No.7837160 >>7837090 >>7837094 I've had plans to do this for a while. I have an established fake account for a "scene/emo" kid who is also a weeb. I was going to go the more traditional ita route but worried that it will be removed from the group now...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:11:25 2014 No.7837173 File: 67 KB, 581x405, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837126 Sage for selfpost, but I usually try to wear wigs and cover my tattoos.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:23:25 2014 No.7837217 >>7837058 Please

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:25:07 2014 No.7837223 >>7837173 What's with the spaghetti wrist?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:26:45 2014 No.7837229 >>7837223 I wondered the same thing. Apparently the con room mirror is a fucking clown mirror. I promise I didn't shoop myself into a spaghetti.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:27:51 2014 No.7837234 >>7837229 Thank god. You had me worried for a second, anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:29:43 2014 No.7837242 >>7837173 You're cute!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 16:44:16 2014 No.7837283 >>7835105 It was a joke for her birthday, it was kind of supposed to be silly and awful.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 17:35:22 2014 No.7837421 >>7834641 it's her, she's always been terrible

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 17:58:45 2014 No.7837473 >>7836837 >baka's

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:08:42 2014 No.7837496

>>7834705
She makes Squirrel Party look cute, but aggreeing with other anon.
Different shoes, no dolls, and some make up would've looked so much better.
Also is it just a noob thing to move your bangs to the side instead of just trimming them? It bugs me so much

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:24:46 2014 No.7837529 >>7834674 I actually really like her sword... Reminds me of the Alice in Wonderland sword I saw on taobao...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:26:11 2014 No.7837532 >>7834725 Wasn't she the blogger who was getting mad because people kept saying her coords weren't lolita but she was insisting that they were? What's her blog url?

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:35:44 2014 No.7837550

>>7836723
Let me explain it to you.

>>7836702
This pic is from someone else. When that person hovers on that comment that has one Like, it says that Antoinette likes it.

When you compare the pic in >>7836453 that comment with the one like has changed from Like to Unlike. Meaning the person who took the screen cap is also the person who Liked that comment.

QED Antoinette is the person that screen capped that post here >>7836453 and >>7836473
& >>7836702 is clearly Sherlock Anon for pointing it out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:40:52 2014 No.7837555 File: 38 KB, 590x462, 2008.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:42:45 2014 No.7837556 File: 38 KB, 462x400, 2008-2009.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837550 This still sounds all in jest to me. All she did was like a comment, so what? If she did whatever, if she didn't whatever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:44:02 2014 No.7837564 File: 74 KB, 375x720, 24346_544308454662_33103561_32241734_2008770_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:45:08 2014 No.7837565 File: 107 KB, 639x823, 1371349031416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:46:18 2014 No.7837570 File: 25 KB, 340x270, il_340x270.613775579_4abs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] > Tagged as lolita

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:47:22 2014 No.7837573 File: 97 KB, 570x980, il_570xN.415629112_5qnx.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837565

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:48:25 2014 No.7837576 File: 126 KB, 1200x1600, IMG_0687.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837573

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:49:28 2014 No.7837578 File: 76 KB, 799x338, ita-lolita-line.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837576

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:50:39 2014 No.7837580 File: 39 KB, 500x391, n45601274_31679403_8893.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837578

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:51:42 2014 No.7837583 File: 67 KB, 799x352, timelineloli.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837580

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:52:48 2014 No.7837585 File: 269 KB, 337x510, tumblr_mbl2ckBrrp1r3axrq.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837583

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:54:18 2014 No.7837592 File: 24 KB, 236x314, 3e09e433b347bb2847f5518d4869ddaf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837585

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:54:40 2014 No.7837595 >>7837565 This... isn't a cosplay? Please someone tell me it's a cosplay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:55:22 2014 No.7837597 File: 16 KB, 236x318, 6f110e52e124d0a7e44beddd67803972.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837592

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:56:25 2014 No.7837598 File: 19 KB, 236x309, 58d4ee7dc70e54f94aa41b0df5feef91.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837597 >>7837595 Not cosplay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:57:29 2014 No.7837599 File: 156 KB, 500x324, 3642018323_9d1dfd64df.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837598

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:58:45 2014 No.7837601 File: 821 KB, 476x715, 1369104037536.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837599

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 18:59:49 2014 No.7837602 File: 11 KB, 208x208, 1364925846116.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837601

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:00:52 2014 No.7837605 File: 57 KB, 400x534, 1373962707572.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837602

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:01:46 2014 No.7837607 File: 167 KB, 482x720, FB_20140924_00_59_47_Saved_Picture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Our beautiful Mimi chan

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:02:11 2014 No.7837608 File: 646 KB, 1080x1920, 1391668101171.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837605

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:03:16 2014 No.7837609 File: 92 KB, 640x594, 75862ba0a0_82401339_o2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837608 >>7837607 Who is she?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:03:21 2014 No.7837610 >>7836728 omg her(his?) head is so tiny

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:04:20 2014 No.7837611 File: 50 KB, 563x720, 10383969_742109975824455_140951720710014046_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7833755 OUR QUEEN VENUS!

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:05:25 2014 No.7837614 File: 89 KB, 486x640, 2811938046_803d75848d_z.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837609

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:06:28 2014 No.7837617 File: 40 KB, 320x240, 3207395946_329592060a_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:07:31 2014 No.7837618 File: 184 KB, 480x640, 3207397170_441d2400b7_z.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837617

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:08:40 2014 No.7837620 File: 361 KB, 500x750, 1391671624893.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837614

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:09:45 2014 No.7837621 File: 183 KB, 2048x1232, 1391930614917.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837620

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:10:51 2014 No.7837624 File: 216 KB, 372x791, 1392668303790.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837621

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:11:56 2014 No.7837627 File: 91 KB, 498x750, 1396744330991.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837624

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:13:00 2014 No.7837630 File: 156 KB, 600x854, 1405810803017.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837627

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:14:19 2014 No.7837633 File: 78 KB, 600x800, 3001120687050.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837630

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:15:22 2014 No.7837636 File: 17 KB, 236x354, 8346164594996bb00fedcfd77df0ef97.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837633

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:16:33 2014 No.7837639 File: 116 KB, 380x500, Cotton-Blue-Green-Gothic-Lolita-Dress-7789-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837636

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:17:38 2014 No.7837640 File: 135 KB, 438x650, d_mimipink.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837639

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:18:03 2014 No.7837641 >>7837624 This has got to be from one of the ita dressup threads

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:18:22 2014 No.7837642 File: 422 KB, 500x282, archer-dammmn.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy fuck, anon. My eyes are burned out of my skull, congrats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:18:53 2014 No.7837645 File: 72 KB, 600x800, FDE55EC17F00000153683B70B3A56DA4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837640

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:19:57 2014 No.7837649 File: 85 KB, 576x720, Goth_Lolita_Moon_PINK_ASSAULT_by_Ponygir1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837645

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:20:56 2014 No.7837651 >>7837620 >>7837608 these were both from an ita dressup thread we should do one of those again, it was great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:21:02 2014 No.7837652 File: 234 KB, 1600x1600, ita.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837649

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:22:42 2014 No.7837658 File: 474 KB, 800x1000, l229-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837652

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:23:47 2014 No.7837664 File: 202 KB, 450x600, large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837658

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:23:54 2014 No.7837666 >>7837608 Oh lord, those gross strands of greasy hair sticking out, that terrible skin and chapped lips. It's like a psa for bad hygiene.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:24:51 2014 No.7837668 File: 90 KB, 331x800, Lolita1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837664

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:25:59 2014 No.7837671 File: 27 KB, 300x400, Long-Sleeves-Lace-And-Tie-Cotton-Lolita-Dress-25028-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837668

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:27:04 2014 No.7837672 >>7837555 Am I crazy for thinking the left and right ones aren't so bad? Better hairstyles and more accessories and they would be cute The middle one is going to haunt my nightmares though, something really looks ...off

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:27:06 2014 No.7837673 File: 13 KB, 225x169, mhQMs6aefgL6ghPzHMQJtMg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837671 > Tagged as lolita

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:28:09 2014 No.7837678 File: 67 KB, 1000x294, mkd85f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837673

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:29:11 2014 No.7837683 File: 27 KB, 500x329, tumblr_inline_mhes3fQJ8f1qad55j.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837678

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:30:21 2014 No.7837686 File: 72 KB, 468x480, tumblr_m3lzp0BrNk1r7e0cpo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837683

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 19:31:37 2014 No.7837689 File: 134 KB, 576x864, Untitled-5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7837686

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 20:01:53 2014 No.7837749 >>7837651 Pls.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 20:57:40 2014 No.7837821 >>7837620 Those nasty teeth...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 21:11:50 2014 No.7837848 >>7837585 Aw, nostalgia. This was one of the first pictures of the fashion that I saw, and it's what convinced me to start looking into wearing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:04:25 2014 No.7837932 >>7837621 She's standing on a toilet seat...

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:15:22 2014 No.7837940 >>7837030 Jesus she did the same thing with me. I thought I was the only one. She seems to have chilled out in more recent months, thankfully. Hearing her shit talk people that weekend made me die if second hand embarrassment.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:35:36 2014 No.7837963 >>7837550 So? Someone liked a comment, so you decided to be inspector gadget or something? This is a ita thread, get the fuck out.

Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:39:11 2014 No.7837970

>>7835529
wow what a surprise fat-ass mikki in an ita thread. if i had ham hocks like that i wouldn't let my legs out like that. inb4 just fat hate. glovee look like shit, hair...just ugh. oh look tacky "pearl" cat ears. dat boob loaf. is she wearing any makeup at all?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:41:50 2014 No.7837973 >>7837689 >>7837686 wtf is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:44:30 2014 No.7837979 >>7835863 omg he looks like one of those doll people that wear the rubber suits and masks. fucking scary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:48:07 2014 No.7837983 >>7837940 She hasn't, she's just gotten more careful about who she shit talks to since she got caught out being two-faced about Poison Sugar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 22:55:31 2014 No.7837993 >>7837983 Well that's unfortunate. I thought there was some hope for her.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 23:10:44 2014 No.7838025 >>7837636 That isn't a lolita or an attempt at lolita fashion, that is the vocalist for The Lady Spade.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 23 23:26:56 2014 No.7838065 >>7837983 Haha! I forgot about that! she was bitching about not being able to model for Poison Sugar at Saboten this year too! No fucking wonder!

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 00:04:27 2014 No.7838125 >>7836701 She has improved a lot since then! I think the natural wig colors helped and that she moved from super sweet coords.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 00:28:15 2014 No.7838166 >>7838125 Did you see her most recent coord? Uhhh... no improvement. She's just gotten more brand-focused instead of trying to wear her shit tier sewing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 00:57:40 2014 No.7838209 >>7837609 Mimi isn't a girl tho.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 00:58:55 2014 No.7838212 >>7837607 it's saddening that that's his best outfit to date

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 02:20:03 2014 No.7838316 File: 1.31 MB, 350x194, yeaohk.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7838125

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 02:21:58 2014 No.7838318 >>7838065 >implying that's a privilege or something

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 02:56:01 2014 No.7838355 File: 122 KB, 560x455, 4032624_IMG_3566-2-edit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7836441 Nobody who dresses like this should be criticising anybody. INB4 she throws a massive shitfit because she can give it but not take it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 03:05:07 2014 No.7838371 >>7837605 Dat fucking episode. Jessica made it look bad

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 03:05:50 2014 No.7838372 File: 82 KB, 900x597, pinkypiewoulddie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7838355 Personal favorite.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 03:18:45 2014 No.7838391 >>7838372 Wow how long ago was that? She looks ridiculous but her figure is so much nicer. Now she just looks fat and old.

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 03:21:29 2014 No.7838398

>>7837583
>>7837599
I don't get why you're posting these, not only are they old, but part of a timeline to show they got better in the part that you cut off. The point is that they were ita, and got better. It's like taking a before and after makeup picture, cropping out the after, and saying "wow look how bad they are with makeup"

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 03:26:07 2014 No.7838405 >>7838391 2012

Anonymous Wed Sep 24 03:28:38 2014 No.7838408

>>7838372
She's got a couple weird sitting ones..I don't get it. Apparently it's "industrial lolita". This is from even earlier than >>7838372
There was one where she literally covers her crotch area with a playboy bunny. It hurts. I can't find a decently sized pic of it so far.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 03:29:42 2014 No.7838410 File: 55 KB, 720x479, yusit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7838408 dropped pic

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 07:09:24 2014 No.7838600 >>7838355 What the hell are you on about? She looks great on this photo, this was a recent post on CoF. Not ita at all.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 07:23:17 2014 No.7838615 >>7838410 >>7838405 Why post something from 2012? More recent please.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 07:37:19 2014 No.7838630 >>7838391 That's funny, weren't people calling her fat here even though she wasn't?

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 10:58:09 2014 No.7838820 >>7838615 I said personal favorite. Not necessarily current. I'm not in CoF, so why don't you pony up something if you're that upset about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 11:21:19 2014 No.7838864 >>7838820 Well anon there already posted her most recent co-ord, which has mostly positive feed back on CoF. So that's irrelevant but possibly nitpick material.

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 11:54:10 2014 No.7838906 Wow. I just came in here to fap to girls in white tights and Maryjanes. You motherfuckers argue worse than /pol/

>>	Anonymous Wed Sep 24 21:33:15 2014 No.7839907 >>7838864 > positive feedback > on CoF Yeah, no shit. I could post a horse in a headbow and they'd call him kawaii.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 25 08:56:50 2014 No.7840623 >>7834128 Religion does not excuse a poor coord.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 26 17:52:29 2014 No.7843208 >>7838600 no.

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