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Checked the catalog and couldn't find one. I'll start.

>Maxipad headdresses need to die
>I love antlers and the fawn trend in general
>Split wigs are for itas and Nicki Minaj
>Princess Peachie is adorable

>> No.7793087

>>7793053
>I love glasses girl, she's flawless to me
>All berets need to be burned
>Salopettes are adorable, just not for lolita
>I hate those frizzy long wigs like in OPs pic and think lolita should have refined, tamed hair
>I hate rocking horse shoes

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Here we go.

>I like lovelylor and I wish I could be as careless and joyful
>I dislike this whole OTT trend
>simplicity is underrated
>there is no excuse to buy a replica garnment
>wigs are overrated and people should put more effort into styling their own hair. Seriously, it is possible, you don't need Fanny Rosie-tier hair to look good in Lolita, some simple updos/braids/curling methods should be part of your skill set
>I don't care if you are chubby or fat, but for the love of God learn how to dress yourself and stop the "burando doesn't fit me!!1 ;_;"-shit. There are plenty of ways to get a great dress, and plenty of plus size people who dress adorable so there's no excuse to look like shit

>> No.7793096

>people in /cgl/ act like they don't even like cosplay
>hate everywhere
>no fun allowed

>> No.7793191

>I also love antlers and fawn makeup, but only for really OOT, costumey convention coords
>if you're ugly, your coords need to be flawless, because, like it or not, people do judge uglies much more harshly than cute girls
>a lot of sweet dresses border on costumes (do you really wear your dreamy baby room outfits in public?)
>a lot of people are defending ita coords by saying that they're oldschool; oldschool can still be ita

>> No.7793202

ITT: Opinions that aren't unpopular

>>7793096
What are you even supposed to be saying, that's not an opinion, it's a fact.

>> No.7793238

>I hate the unsaid rule that every colour has to match perfectly, to me it kills the life out of a coord, and I don't mean any "this dress is mainly two pinks and white, I think I'll match it with navy and green"-shit.
>OTT sweet looks more like a costume than anything
>If for some reason peignoirs are used in lolita, for fuck's sake, make sure they don't exceed the length of your dress, you look retarded

>> No.7793258

>Chess Chocolate is so ugly I want to throw up
>Black shoes as the only black part of the co-ord is cute

>> No.7793264

>>7793089
I like you

>> No.7793270

>>7793238
THIS SO MUCH, I like peignoirs but for gods sake just hem them to be the size of the dress, boom, they look ten times better.

>> No.7793272

>I hate bonnets. The bigger it is the more I hate it. I can only tolerate them in classic/goth coords, and even then I don't like them that much.
>When people have too many bracelets/wristcuffs/whatever on their arms that it's almost to their elbow
>Scepters. You're not Queen Elizabeth
>Big chunky clown shoes. They're not elegant. You are not going to fly away if your shoes don't weigh 5lbs.
> Piling on as many food-themed items as you can. Like I get that you want to show off your biscuit bag, doughnut ring/necklace/bracelet, food print dress, food print cardigan, etc, but this isn't ihop

>> No.7793276

>Underskirts look like the lampshade in grandma's house, it's only acceptable if you're as tall as Choke
>Lolita should have the same standards for makeup and hair as gyaru does, and the cattiness would do the community good
>Blouses under JSKs look like ageplay in anything other than classic or shiro/kuro. There are so many other better options that go OVER the straps, like boleros and capelets
>Fat people should not be wearing food prints, nor should ugly people wear Fantastic Dolly or Girlie Stuff
>I actually like Hello Kitty being a little girl and not a cat, even though it makes no sense

>> No.7793285

>>7793270
YEAH, up top, anon!

>> No.7793289

>>7793272
>this isn't ihop

you're wonderful, anon.

>> No.7793292

>>7793258
I approve of the black shoes, it looks so classy and like a cherry on top in a good coord (not sweet, maybe, who knows though)

>> No.7793293

>chubby girls look way cuter in sweet than skinny girls do
>bodices look better when fully filled out and boobloaf isnt nearly as big a sin as it's portrayed as here

>> No.7793302

>I love crazy OTT, unique one-of-a-kind coords as long as the theme is cool and it matches.

>I'm embarrassed to go to meets with brolitas who don't pass. I think they should just sort of stop in general and maybe do ouiji or something
.
>If you don't act elegantly, if you aren't classy or sophisticated and you do stuff like burp in other people's faces/ don't shave/ act crude then you shouldn't be into this fashion. I want to talk to other classy, self-respecting girls not the grown kid who still thinks acting disrespectful is an endearing trait.

>> No.7793310

>unnaturally-colored wigs don't look costumey (unless they're bright)
>Rhapsody wigs need to stay out of lolita
>I don't like sharply-contrasted prints, keep it subtle or go solid (patterns that cover the entire dress are usually exempt from this)
>I don't like printed tights at all
>I hate "pirate lolita" coords that are basically gothic or classic with a tiny tricorne
>I don't get the point of rosettes

>> No.7793354

>I think rocking horse shoes are ugly as sin
>idc about fatty chans as long as they try and don't become replica wearing fatty chans
>black colorways on sweet prints look awful on most people
>JetJ looks tacky most of the time

there are some exceptions for these, I've seen some good JetJ coords and black colorway sweet prints, but most of the time I don't care for it.

>> No.7793359

>>7793310
>Rhapsody wigs

THAT'S the term for them. Thank you anon, I agree

>>7793276
Why are you bringing up Hello Kitty? And Sanrio confirmed that they meant she is a personified cat, not a human

>> No.7793368

> Cosplay pages are fine in and of itself, but what's not fine is letting the fame get to your head
> I think it's fine to cosplay from super popular series, they're popular for a reason, of course the only thing is just don't be abrasive about it
> Cosplay repair stations are a good idea
> Daleks inside cons are kind of obnoxious, at least if they're in the dealer's room or somewhere that space is tight, if they're in a main hall with lots of room then I won't care

>> No.7793396

> no one in the whole world looks good with tea party shoes. no exception

>> No.7793402

I hate this full length dresses and "art loli" trend. Full length and tea length isn't lolita. It looks cute but I want those people to get out of my fashion. It is even worse than ott sweet because at least ott sweet carried the basic shape, this is like a completely new fashion.

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>>7793402

You're entitled to your opinion, but you're completely wrong when it comes to your statement that tea-length isn't lolita.

>> No.7793415

>>7793411
>Because Fanny Rosie isn't allowed to wear non-lolita styles

There's like no poof. At all.

>> No.7793418

>>7793402
>muh fashion

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>>7793415

More poof would be ridiculous. Not everything needs to have ridiculous violent A-line amounts of poof.

>> No.7793423

>>7793411
>>7793421
Those outfits are nice, but not lolita.

>> No.7793424

>>7793421
This doesn't look like lolita at all, though.

>> No.7793428

>>7793421
I get that, and it looks lovely, but seriously I don't understand how this can be classified as lolita. She looks like she's ready for a debutante ball.

>> No.7793430

>>7793415

Not the anon you replied to, but I don't think it's about the girl. The dress she is wearing is Alice and the Pirates' Hymn Long jsk, and it came out in 2009.

Tea-length dresses are nothing new, it's only recently that they've become a fad. Floor length dresses are unusual, and more likely to have been a collab, but they also pre-date "art loli".

I think you're kind of marking how new you've been in the fashion if you think the poofy silhoutte is the only acceptable lolita silhoutte.

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>>7793411
>>7793423

You should take it up with the brands who regularly release tea-length dresses and showcase their models wearing them as in the same style as lolita then.

>> No.7793434

Probably the shittiest opinion here, but

>wee squeak shoes may be cute for taking your toddler out here and there, but for the love of god don't take your kid to a con wearing them. Especially if you're not going to carry your toddler around and let them run everywhere.

I didn't think I could hate con parents more when stylized baby leashes came out, but apparently I can.

>> No.7793438

>>7793302
i agree with you 100% anon

also
>i hate it when people act like immature children at meetups, you are representing our fashion so try not to act like a complete fool
>pigtails in lolita really just make it look more like ageplay
>why the fuck are scepters even a thing
>burn your flower crowns

>> No.7793446

>>7793087
Agree, I think the hate towards glasses girl is because she obviously has a very full closet of brand and other people in here are just jealous. The glasses honestly aren't that big of a deal.

>> No.7793448

>tolerating all these tragic, profoundly wrong newfags who think lolita has to be knee length

Hasn't school started back up? GTFO

>> No.7793452

>>7793430
Not gonna lie, I am really new, but I just don't get how two dresses look so drastically different but both can still be called lolita. If you're saying these are lolita, then salopettes should also be lolita, because it's not about the shape at that point and anything that a brand puts out fits that style. Apparently I'm not the only one here with this mindset, so I don't think I'm completely off-base. Make a case for it, though, I'm all ears, I want to understand where you're coming from.

>> No.7793454

>>7793448
>trying to act like an oldfag by claiming these country party dresses are actually lolita

They obviously don't have to be only be knee length, but these don't even vaguely resemble the silhouette.

>> No.7793457

>>7793438
How about just even acting like normal people. I've only met up once, but I swear to god next time if I go and everyone refuses to speak like a normal human being I'm out.

>> No.7793461

>>7793438
>I like flower crowns, they're pretty, but not suitable for every coord, people started to hate them when everyone noticed they were cute.

>> No.7793462

>>7793452
The same as two drastically differently dressed goths are still goths. You can have your elegant goths and then your drudgery goths who wear all black and just look unkept. They're still goths, just different ones.

>> No.7793465

>>7793421
>>7793411
>>7793430

Have you looked at those dresses? How are they lolita? Brand does not equal lolita, I have an ap skirt so short that my butt practically hangs out of it. I think that to be lolita something has to be so if it came from an offbrand store, it would still be considered lolita. I think tea length and full length dresses are very elegant and cute, but not lolita. They are kind of like Victorian styled, more aristocrat than anything. And just because someone wears lolita doesn't mean that if they make a cute coord with a tea length dress it is
lolita too. For a fashion with so many rules that are so heavily enforced as this one, you all sure seem to break them a lot. And I'm perfectly fine with that. Just stop telling some people they are ita if they don't fit into said rules, and praising others for it.

Not new, been into this fashion for around 3 years.

>> No.7793466

>>7793446
Obviously I'm not speaking for everyone but I don't like glasses girl, I'm not jealous of her wardrobe, I'm not into sweet that much.
But she's just really obnoxious like I think she came on here being all like "LOL YOU DON'T LIKE MY GLASSES MAYBE I'LL GET EVEN BIGGER ONES JUST TO PISS YOU ALL OFF"
Also her hair. She wears the same wig all the time and doesn't even bother styling it, she just pins the fringe to the side and sticks an accessory on, she looks like a sceney kid.

>> No.7793467

> flowers crowns are pretty with lolita granted it isn't being paired with a complete unrelated print (like cupcakes or some shit)
> same goes for antlers
> but those Madonna crowns need to die
> peignoirs doesn't always = destroying the silhouette and shouldn't be met with insta-hate
> black shoes with white/other color than black coord is cute
> the mentality that bigger poof = better needs to die

>> No.7793468

>>7793087
>>7793446
The hate for her is her glasses. Everything else is fine but her glasses look so fucking stupid. They'd look stupid even if she wasn't wearing lolita. They're HUGE and they don't sit on her face right, and they don't flatter her face. They look like Groucho glasses, like her nose isn't real.

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Everyone fawns over thin lolitas but to me stickly legs look terrible coming out of a poofy petticoat. It just looks really disproportioned and top-heavy, especially when the skirt goes past the knees.
>pic related

I've only ever liked the thinness on chokelate and it's mainly because of her height.

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>don't ever mention the book ever or people will accuse you of being a closeted ageplayer

I hate this so much I'm thinking of putting this pendant into a coord, especially since I'm a Nabokov fan it picks out the green details in my dress nicely. The book is where the word "lolita" comes from, and who cares if ignorant plebs make stupid mental shortcuts?

>> No.7793488

>>7793470

Her legs don't look sickly to me at all.

>> No.7793490

>>7793421
This looks like 1930's formal attire, sorry to say. Evening gloves didn't become popular until late 19th century and they boomed in the early 20th century. Not very lolita at all, especially since lolita is mainly inspired by the Victorian era.

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>>7793452

The trouble is that you're trying to find ONE look that unifies all of lolita. Unfortunately for you, lolita started in, what, 80s? 70s? So that's 40? 50 years worth of evolution? Even if you look at mainstream fashion, 70s fashion is not today's fashion. Heck, even 80s fashion is not 70s fashion.

Half a century, anon. The style has been through trends. It's been through fads. It split up into many different substyles. Many things came in and then died out. AP went through a hime lolita phase where they released halterneck cutsews with arm warmers, with bare shoulders. Then we have salopettes that are being explained as lolita's fling with fairy kei. Now aatp is apparently trying out this steampunk business and brands are releasing muumuu-style dresses.

At the same time, fity years isn't all that long ago. I only got into lolita in 2006, that's not even a decade, and I still have a soft spot for hime lolita. There are girls who are into what lolita looked like pre-2006, aka old school lolitas. Every now and again a brand will bring back an old look for nostalgia's sake, baby in particular re-releases their old school stuff quite often (and it still sells steadily, from what I've seen). So while brands all seem to put more updated looks every GLB, which is why you think there is only one look, the older trends still stick around and there are still buyers for them. That's why you'll get such a huge variety of different styles.

What I'm saying is that lolita is much, much bigger than the small tiny box you're trying to fit it into.

Pic is vintage lolita, by the way. Victorian Maiden's Mermaid OP from 2001.

>> No.7793499

>>7793465
>been into this fashion for around 3 years.
>Hymn jsk came out 2009
>2009 is five years ago.

.....yeah, you're pretty new.

>> No.7793503

>I love maxipad headdresses, only for gothic and classic though.
>Those platform mary-jane esque shoes will always be cute to me
>I hate those images that are supposed to be "un-elegant lolitas," like lolitas making stupid "derp" faces or holding guns.
>I love super OTT classic, but wouldn't ever wear it out since it feels too fancy for most meetups

>> No.7793505

>>7793467
MARRY ME.

>> No.7793507

>>7793483
The book is not where the word lolita comes from. It existed before the book as a Spanish nickname for Dolores.

>> No.7793509

>>7793490

>lolita is mainly inspired by the Victorian era

Um.

>> No.7793518

> I think old school is really ugly most of the time.
>Wa-lolita isn't lolita at all and will always be ita.
>I fucking love flower crowns

>> No.7793527

>>7793402
>>7793418
>>7793452
>>7793454
>>7793465
>>7793507
>>7793509


>>7793448
This thread is painful.

>> No.7793529

>>7793465
But lolita doesn't have a rule that says, "Your dress can't be longer than x."

>>7793411
>>7793432
>>7793421
If these three dresses were shortened, they'd have the regular lolita silhouette, which I think qualifies them as being "real" lolita, just with longer skirts. Aristocrat doesn't look like that at all, it has a completely different skirt shape for the most part.

>> No.7793537

>>7793507
I meant the word "lolita" as we know it, the namesake of the fashion/lifestyle.

>> No.7793563

>>7793529
They dont have the lolita silhouette as it is though, they dont have petticoats. Im the one that kind of sparked this length debate, would just like to say that I didn't mean tea length in this elegant sense, I meant when people add those huuuuge underskirts that go under regular length dresses. 99% underskirts hitting at tea length for a knee length dress look completely ridiculous, especially if they dont completely match up with the dress.

>> No.7793566

>>7793563

They actually do have petticoats, they just have less poof than usual petticoats so you don't have the Bo Beep effect.

>> No.7793629

macarons =/= macaroons

>> No.7793638

>>7793566
This. I feel like if you don't have maximum levels of poof now you're suggested to "wear another petticoat," when medium poof has never been a problem before, especially with more classic looks.

>> No.7793644

>>7793629
<3

>> No.7793651

>>7793638
I don't think that that's necessarily true, a lot of people especially in classic don't need to go for super cupcake mode and most good lolitas understand that. But there should be poof, for sure.

>> No.7793652

>>7793053
People talk about how amazing a certain con is.
They are drunk 80% of the time at the con.

>> No.7793663

On this note
>>7793651
I think as long as the outfit isn't OTT, the only people who don't look awful in large poofs are fat people. That's only because the bigger they are, the more poof they need to not look weirder.

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>>7793446
It's more the fact that she can afford to buy glasses for lolita, but won't. I have a closet full of brand and I have a pair of glasses specifically for lolita that match most of my dresses.

>> No.7793671

>>7793664
I was "meh" about glasses girl.
the glasses are ugly, and she pushes them on everyone like guys from /soc/ try to push their dicks onto everyone else.

but she came in here with a pisspoor attitude and did the "trololol" thing and my "meh" ness towards her into hatred.

why do you insist its jealousy?

>> No.7793672

>>7793644
<3 to you too

>> No.7793675

>>7793671
woops meant to respond to >>7793446

>> No.7793683

>>7793671
>>7793664
I wasn't around when she did that but I honestly don't think she's all high and mighty about it. Maybe she was just so sick of it that it provoked her to lash out about it, and I know she often lurks /cgl/ because she posts about it sometimes. But she definitely didn't handle that well because everyone knows you don't defend yourself on 4chan. This debate has happened so many times and she actually did buy tortoiseshell frames to go with lolita; I think that for some people it's jealousy but for others the glasses just piss them off, but either way I wish people would stop picking on her so much, she's legitimately a good person with what I consider to be a fantastic sense of style, sometimes things are a miss but lately they've all been hits to me. Just my two cents.

>> No.7793689

>Peachie is probably the most endearing e-famous lolita out there
>I love maxipad headdresses and wish they would come back
>DDC and CDC are hideous
>All-over prints look better than border prints

>> No.7793692

>>7793483
But that necklace isn't even unique or special--or particularly pretty. It won't add anything to your coord. It looks flimsy and cheap. The name "lolita" doesn't come from there. "Nymphets" use it because of the book's popularity and because they misunderstood the premise of the book.

It seems you care quite a lot that ignorant plebs make this mental short cut, or else you'd be fine wearing it.

Also, please, get better taste in writers or at least take a look at other things he's written.

>> No.7793697

>rocking horse shoes, veils, and bonnets are under appreciated
>platformed traditional lolita clown shoes look so bad 80% of the time at least and should never be used outside of gothic
>super high heels look so elegant in lolita
>i love shoehorned in pirate items (tricorn, chest bag)
>i hate shoehorned in food themes and fucking violin shit in every classic coord
>flowers go with every coord

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>lotta jsk
>milky planet more like bukkake planet
>carnival series
>any chocolate themed prints
>peignoirs
>salopettes
>sweet prints in black colorway
>metallic prints
>JetJ in general
>VW with lolita
>flower crowns
>bittersweet lolita
>hipster eyeglasses with lolita
>lasercut jewelry
>OTKs
>star and violin bags

>> No.7793722

>>7793714
OTKs? Really? Do you mean UTKs?
I agree with everything else but VW

>> No.7793730

>>7793714
You could have just said
>lolita

Although I do agree with a lot of what you said.

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>>7793714

I agree with all of this except for the salopettes and chocolate themed prints which I incidentally love, especially when combined.

>> No.7793744

>>7793714
>bukkake planet

I like you anon, even though I own that dress. I call it "stoner's paradise" even though I don't smoke weed.

>> No.7793762

Metallic shoes look like shit 99% of the time.
Apparently sweet prints in black colorways isn't an unpopular hate but agreeing with all who said it. Rare that it looks good.
I seriously can't believe OTT sweet is a thing and wigs are commonplace but "zomg not a costume" is also still a thing. Normfags don't get it, stop being so annoyed by the expected.

>> No.7793763

>I like sweet prints in black colorway
>I wish bittersweet would happen
>I prefer natural hair styled over wigs
>unnaturally colored hair with lolita is disgusting

>> No.7793770

>>7793762
Popstars wear wigs ALL the time, and that's just supposed to be normal for them. It's a little weird but it shouldn't be seen as a bad thing to wear wigs.

>> No.7793771

>>7793714
>milky planet
>peignors
>salopettes
>metallic prints
>bittersweet
>hipster glasses with lolita
>lastercut jewelry
>violin bags

gurrrrl I'm >>7793518 let's get married in your gnome forest please?

>> No.7793780

>>7793276
>Blouses under JSKs look like ageplay in anything other than classic or shiro/kuro.
I have never heard this opinion before. Truly unpopular opinion. Good show.

>> No.7793794

>>7793276
>Fat people should not be wearing food prints
I actually think more fat people should wear food prints. i think it's cute and kind of funny in a "poking fun at yourself" kind of way. If I were a sweet, I'd wear food prints.

>> No.7793805

Going to get so much hate but oh well..

>Fanny Rosie's coords are boring and most the time she looks more like she is wearing otome, not lolita.
>I love bonnets in gothic and classic but in sweet they just look like age play.
>Old school lolita in black and white can be the cutest type of lolita, but can only be well done in brand. Other wise the lace is to cheap looking.
> I love ero lolita, when done right.

>> No.7793815

I hate how in the unpopular opinions thread a bunch of people are always telling others that their opinions are wrong and stupid. Like the entire point of those threads is for people to share their opinions without whiteknights coming and shitting on them.

>> No.7793820

>>7793770
Didn't say it should be? Though popstars can afford good wigs AND we're not popstars so I'm not sure how that's relevant. Point is more about normfags wont get it at first glance and we need to stop acting so annoyed for something we should have several default ways to handle.

>> No.7793825

>>7793815
I'm pretty sure that it's a thinly disguised "Let's complain and argue about what trends do and don't look good" thread. It's boring if we ignore opinions we don't understand/don't agree with and only respond to people we 'omg totally relate with'. That's a circlejerk.
If you have an opinion about something, you should be prepared to defend why you have that opinion.

>> No.7793850

>>7793820
I agree, most people get so butthurt when normalfags don't understand. WE may look at lolita on the internet all day and get 'desensitized' to it but normalfags will have never seen it. I just meant that wearing wigs I don't think automatically makes it a costume. That's what I disagreed with about your original statement. I'm not someone who bitches about the way normalfags treat us though. And tbh $70-100 wigs aren't going to be popstar quality but that kind of money isn't something to sneeze at either.

>> No.7793854

>>7793805
Ffs, gonna be a defender of otome and fanny Rosie doesn't ever look like she's wearing otome kei, even when she says she is. She just wears everything in a typical 30s-early 60s era way. She's classic if anything.

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>I don't think /cgl/ is going to shit
>I don't think /cgl/ is the worst board on 4chan
I'm really sick of all the bullshit people spout whenever a troll is lurking. If you think the board is shit, just take that fish out of your vagina, stick it in your mouth and walk away.

>> No.7793975

>>7793850
Maybe it's just less common where I am to wear wigs. I don't see it as an issue but normfags can't seem to get over it. They also tend to think I care that they know it was a wig I was wearing when they see my natural hair.
Anyways seems like we agree, just have differing experience around wigs.

>> No.7793995

>>7793975
I think a lot of people pick wigs that look unnatural and that may be part of it too, especially in sweet. But yes, I agree. Thanks for the discussion anon!

>> No.7794046

>>7793497
Thank you!
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Old school will always have a place in my wardrobe since it's what got me to fall in love with lolita back in the mid 2000s.

>> No.7794072

>>7793794
For me being a fat girl who wears food prints, it's actually funny since most sweets I would rather make than eat. Idk fancy sweets are kinda meh, also my unpopular opinion would be... I don't really like macarons?

>> No.7794074

>>7793497
>80s? 70s? So that's 40? 50 years worth of evolution?
Either I suddenly aged a tremendous amount or someone can't math.

30-40 years. It wasn't really cohesive per-se until the late 90's and early 2000's but even then it's changed a great deal in the last 15 years. It's constantly evolving and changing with trends.

>> No.7794099

>>7794074

Yeah, I ballparked the figure. 1970 to 2014 is 44 years so I figure 40-50 years.

And yes, the point was that it wasn't really cohesive and it changed a lot, which is why lolita isn't defined by that poofy silhoutte alone.

Another thing is that newbies don't seem to know that neither burando nor GLB wrote the rulebook on lolita, western lolitas did, mostly as a response to newbies of that time not knowing how to lolita. So the lolita rules were never "lolita law" to begin with, they were more like observations guidelines on how to achieve lolita style.

>> No.7794136

>>7793995
Likewise!

Polite sage for not adding anything

>> No.7794182

>when something involving feminism or queer rights comes up and everyone gets super defensive. "GO BACK TO TUMBLR!!!"
>subsequently, anyone that says something about missing the old /cgl/ when everyone was a sandy cunt. "but muh hivemind"
>Just in general people need to stop derailing themed threads with drama. There's a whole god damn thread for it go be a shit monster in there.
>Classic dresses with really obtrusive colors need to go.
>Dont like tea length/floor length dresses.
>Fairy-kei can look good on western girls.
>I wish when i said "sweet" i didnt picture OTT and printed dresses.

That came out a lot sandier then I expected.

>> No.7794223

>>7793272
> You're not Queen Elizabeth
People can say that about the whole fashion: "What do you think you are? A princess?"

>> No.7794240

>>7793285
So simple and you'd think people would automatically figure this out from the lolita silhouette but no.

>> No.7794258

>>7793483
I'm sorry, but you came off way more pleb and ignorantly. You tried getting your special snowflake on with, "Shame on the ignorants who aren't true lolitas for knowing teh~special~origins~" but you barely know much about it.

>>7793692
This this this.

>> No.7794265

>>7794258
Can we just make the peignoir thing a rule? With a little bit of repetition we can make it as ubiquitous as having a blouse/bolero/cardigan with a JSK is.

>> No.7794953

I hate it when people post something like pic related and ask for concrit on the coord. The coord in the picture could be awesome laid out, but look like absolute shit on you. Makeup and hair are just as important as how well put together the coord is.

>> No.7794963
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>>7794953
Fucking dropped my pic.

>> No.7795023

>>7794953

I always thought the point behind making these was like lorem ipsumming a print layout, you take out some part of the "design" that you don't want the feedback on so that the critics can focus on the things you *do* want feedback on, such as the blue beret in this coord looking somewhat off.

>> No.7795160

>>7795023
Yeah, but wouldn't someone say that anyways? Look at the nitpick thread. There are so many people who will point out mismatched colors and accessories.

>> No.7795220

Yeah, but they will also say things like "eat/put down a sandwich", "clean your room", "I like your knees/hands/nails" or even "I like your cat/you hairless pet creeps me out".

I do get what you mean by the clothes sitting in different places once they're worn, I just usually take it for granted that the person posting it has the brains to wear clothes that fit them and just need a second opinion on the colours and motifs. We've had girls post worn photos of clothes that had problematic fit, asking for help in solving the fit problem rather than con crit on the coord.

>> No.7795225

>>7795220
is for >>7795160

it's late and I'm really tired. Sorry.

>> No.7795418

Don't know if unpopular opinion, but I don't know where else I should post it.

>Love Haenuli's prints, but the fabric both look and feel cheap

>> No.7795491
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>rhs are ewww
>i think tea parties look alright with any sub style of lolita, as long as they match the colors
>peignoirs are cute
>wigs look better then natural hair 75% of the time
>never have your bloomers showing, looks really stupid
>your petticoat should match your coord, unless its plain white
>dreamy baby room is adorable
>heavy black makeup never looks good with lolita, idc what sub style, it never looks good
>btssbs bunny bear bag is ugly as shit
>there should be more duck inspired dresses, ducks are great
>otts cute as long as its coorded nicely
>all lolitas should know how to play at least one instrument
>venus is a cutie

>> No.7795507

Rocking horse shoes are cute as fuck and always relevant

>> No.7795511
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>old school is really ugly
i hate that defending itas with "iTS 0LDSC00L!!!!" shit. if something gets mistaken for ita so often, then somethings not right.

>> No.7795535

>>7793089
I agree with everything you said
I wish I could make my hair work for lolita, but its around shoulder length and super thich, and I can hardly do anything with it. Also pink

>> No.7795553

>>7793272

>Scepters. You're not Queen Elizabeth

Agreed.They've always come off as a bit pretentious to me, same with the Madonna crowns. Fine for a photo shoot or ad perhaps, but they look way too awkward when you're just going out with friends.

>Layering 3+ pettis isn't always necessary, bigger poof isn't always the best or necessary for a nice coord.
>Rocking horse shoes are fug.
>Plain coords with minimal accessories don't get enough love, and OTT is overrated.
>Super high heels(VW) in lolita look weird.

>> No.7795581

>I love super sweet OTT prints and even Dreamy Baby Room, but more if they are coordinated in a non OTT mode and more plain or in black colourways.
>for me creepy cute is totally my style
>i love even punk lolita
>JetJ painting prints look like shit most of the time
>I hate bonnets on sweet lolita
>hating also super long skirt or these huge underskirts, made exception if you are tall and a dress is too short. On petite girls look awful and granny like or not lolita at all.
>i love tartan dresses
>rocking horse shoes and super tall platforms look tacky and ugly most of times
>i love salopettes and they look better than some JSKs on my body
>>7793467
I love you. Especially about the poof thing. I find too much poof stupid even with OTT sweet.
>>7793714
>milky planet more like bukkake planet
I kek'ed a lot. So gold, anon.

>> No.7795709

>>7795511
More like the new gags dont understand the fashion or anything outside of rainbow vomit trend.

>> No.7795712

>>7795709
*new fags
And this is MY unpopular opinion, I forgot to make it clear my bad, I'm all over the place.

>> No.7795716

Some of these have probably been named already, but
> the underskirt trend is disgusting
> tea-length is ok, but longer than that is ugly.
> headbows are boring
> black shoes go with practically anything.

>> No.7795724

>>7795709
I agree with you. There are so many newfags that believe super poofy sweet and gothic are the only lolita styles out there... it's kind of infuriating when they refuse to make some fucking research or ignores the information you provide

>> No.7795736

Ridiculous amounts of poof/wrong petti under a dress. It makes sense in sweet lolita but a huge petti in classic or sweet classic just looks off.

Also petticoats under umpire waists make you look pregnant and/or fat and are just about always unflattering and gross.

>> No.7795763

>>7793490
>>7793509

Yeeeaaah, the Victorian era is dated 1837–1901. Does anon not know how centuries work?

>> No.7795778

I think asians look like shit in lolita.

>> No.7795797

I hate feeler posts in sales comms. Either sell the thing or don't. Ask for a price check if you don't know what it's going for but it's annoying to see these posts.

>> No.7795804

I can't stand pastel-coloured wigs in lolita. They ALWAYS make the coord look like a costume, no matter how good it is.

>> No.7795815

>Colored contact lenses should gtfo of lolita. Lolita is no cosplay, so there is no need to look like a certain character, so just embrace the eye colour you were born with and work with what you have.
>A-line dresses only look good on extremely skinny girls with no tits and stickly legs, even someone like fannyrosie would be too fat for them.
>I can't appreciate pictures of your new coords/hauls/whatever if there is a messy room in the background, it's just gross.
>I can't stand looking at wrinkled dresses, even if you are wearing the perfect coord I can't take you seriously any more, it makes me think of you as a messy lazy person with the wrong priorities.

>> No.7795820

I don't think JetJ is really lolita anymore, most dresses look tacky and cheap and that's coming from someone who adores BtssB's huge ott OPs

>> No.7795859

>>7795820

Their shitty graphic design collage dresses are really getting to me. I wish they would do more of their lovely plain creations.

>> No.7795867

>>7795815
>A-line dresses only look good on extremely skinny girls
A-line is literally the most flattering dress silhouette, what are you on about?

>>7795820
Agree with this.

>> No.7795872

>>7793354
I like you

>> No.7795873

I love the long underskirts that have been coming out lately. I already have a black and a white one from Baby with an ivory one on the way. They're rarely coorded well outside of brand photoshoots though. The girls who wear them usually look like they're wearing a knee-length petticoat under it or no petticoat at all, so the shape is all wrong. Your petticoat should be almost as long as your underskirt for it to look right.

>> No.7795950

>>7794182
Anon are you me? If not let's marry and have lady babies.

>> No.7795975

>>7794182
to people that dislike tea length dresses, what about the long length dresses on taller girls? Would you rather the silhouette be right but too short, or too long and stretched out looking, or should tall people just give up and leave lolita?

>> No.7795984

>>7795975
I've been considering asking the same but I didn't know how I should write it.
I'm 5"10, so I'm really happy about the long length trend on dresses, but I'm curious about what cgl thinks about them on tall girls

>> No.7796002

>>7795975
Well they aren't tea length on taller girls, are they? So the silhouette works.

>> No.7796027

>>7795975
>>7795984
I think it is fine. The shape of the skirt doesn't matter in the underskirt case, but where it hits on your legs. I am 5"2 but even I have problems with short length jsks hitting above my knees. So I am planning on getting one that will bring my short skirts to an under knee length. It is when people wear underskirts that are unnecessarily long (full length), regardless of if they are tall or not, it looks ridiculous if you are going for lolita.

>> No.7796031

Lolitas need to stop labeling everything as lolita. The world does not revolve around lolita.

FannyRosie does not identify herself as a lolita, which is why she gives no fucks about following the rules, so stop trying to stick her in whatever style you think shes going for . She is simply herself.

>> No.7796064

Toddler shoes are God awful with sweet lolita and so hideous and puke worthy in classic.

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>>7793467

>> No.7796202

>>7796031
THANK YOU OMG

>> No.7796521

>more jetj collage dresses
>more maxipad headdresses
>please for the love of god no more carousel prints
>also more prints with animals that aren't common in lolita prints, like chinchillas or baby seals (also another squirrel print, typewriting squirrels was great)

>> No.7796579

Directing newbies to Bodyline is fucking stupid

>shitty construction
>bad designs
>high prices for the quality
>doesn't have much resale value
>you'll immediately look like a newbie

>> No.7797147

>>7795220
I think I get what you mean, and the example you gave about clothes fit doesn't bother me at all. I think I'm warming up to your side. Trying to think why this still bothers me. Maybe what I don't like is when people use it as an excuse to not show the worn photos. Like, it actually fits horribly on them, but they claim its ok because "The coord is perfect tho~"

>> No.7797159

>>7793689
are you me

>> No.7797169

>>7797147

I think your actual peeve is with the misuse of floordinate photos. I've generally thought of them as a quick way to see if a group of items go together thematically and colour-wise. They're not not a good way to see if a girl would look good in them, because of the fit and grooming problems you mentioned earlier. From what you're describing, it sounds like some of those lolitas you take issue with are using them exactly to see if coordinates would look good, skipping the grooming and fit part entirely, rather than just using them to check the themes and colours.

Personally I find that most itas have a bucket list of excuses ready to explain why they look like such fails. The one time I tried to troubleshoot why an outfit looks bad on a 4channer (she self-posted and got shat on), she responded with a laundry list of reasons why her outfit is the way it is. So to me, using a floordinate and not bothering to check the fit of the items, or not bothering to groom themselves, is just another ita excuse that doesn't hold water.

>> No.7797217

>>7797169
Have a bad feeling that the 4channer you mentioned was me... What was the most glaringly wrong thing with the coord?

>> No.7797229

>>7797217

It was a DDC coord where the girl used a prom dress as an overskirt or overdress because it was gold, the "overskirt" looked lopsided and stuck, which it was, because it was still attached to the zipper and the zipper was under the skirt, therefore pulling the "overskirt" lopsided. I didn't actually offer any critique until she asked what everybody hated about her outfit.

Sorry to hear your were bashed, anon, if it helps, it happens quite a lot on this board. Just take it in stride that you didn't look your best on that particular day, but you can definitely improve and look better another day.

>> No.7797233

>>7797229
It wasn't me :). I didn't get bashed actually and generally on those boards I think there is a good reason people get bashed. Not that it is good that they get bashed, but you don't get bashed on cgl for just being ita generally, and there is something about your attitude or something.

>> No.7797241

>>7793258
>>7793292
Agreed on the black shoes!

Also
>brown shoes but no brown in rest of coord?
>Idgaf my shoes match my hair

>> No.7797245

>>7797233

Ah yeah, on top of being weirdly dressed she did pull out the aforementioned laundry list of excuses for why she was dressed like that, and in general didn't seem to take being told that she was badly dressed very well.

I guess you do have a point, a lot of girls will post nitpicky comments when a less-than-well-dressed girl is posted, it's only when the girl responds badly that the threads blow up and get derailed.

>> No.7797257

>>7796031
Anon i love you
I love how /cgl/ rant about how "omg tumblr is trying soo hard to stick a word on everything!1!" and shit while they to the same

>> No.7797278

>>7795220
>I just usually take it for granted that the person posting it has the brains to wear clothes that fit them and just need a second opinion on the colours and motifs. We've had girls post worn photos of clothes that had problematic fit, asking for help in solving the fit problem rather than con crit on the coord.


Seconding this. I also only posted collages/coord laid out because I am not too comfortable with the idea of showing my face on cgl.

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>>7795709
>>7795724
>"black dress with white detailing? AUTOMATICALLY ITA"
Of course oldschool-style outfits can look like shit, that's where the bxw=ita stereotype came from in the first place. But imo if someone has only been in the fashion for a few years and thinks something like pic related or >>7796309 is ita, they can fuck right off back to where they came from.

My other unpopular opinion is that people who have only been involved in lolita for <4 years or so are still relatively new. That doesn't mean they can't be good dressers or know their shit but whenever someone goes "I'm not a newfag! I've been into lolita for two years!" I just can't help but roll my eyes at them.

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>>7797169
>floordinate
I'll be using this from now on anon, thank you.

>> No.7797324

>>7797289

Can't take the credit for that, it came from someone in the tumblr thread.

>> No.7797334

>I love rocking horse shoes
>I love maxi pad headdresses
>I really wish that the entire sweet lolita substyle would disappear
>Bodyline should be avoided by all costs by newbies (newbies don't have the trained eye you need to shop there)
>Most Taobao lolita brands suck and aren't worth the cost, effort, and time
>Venus is super adorable
>I think chunky shoes, dark make-up, and other stuff that seems to be borrowed from harajuku's "goth" scene shouldn't be hated on in lolita. It isn't all about wearing whatever's just "pretty" or old-fashioned. Hell, look at the founder of lolita! Lolita is an alternative fashion and I think /cgl/ should remember its roots. Not everyone has to change to fit the newer trends.
>Tea length dresses are pretty but many don't look lolita; floor length dresses almost never do
>I like underskirts (except the poorly worn ones ofc)
>However, I hate overskirts, especially the haenuli ones.
>I hate bell-shaped pettis. They look awkward. A-line just looks so much better in my eyes.
>I have a real dislike for ott ~*kawAII DEsU*~ eye make-up. Especially circle lenses. It just seems like something best left to gyaru.
>Speaking of which, gyaru make-up is ugly as fuck
>I don't like pastels. Everyone acts as if all pastels match each other (I.e. throwing random pieces into a coord that all have a different "pastel" color), even though they don't inherently match just because they're both pastels.
>Most of /cgl/ will probably agree, but this seems to be unpopular outside of the board: fandom lolita is just a stupid fucking costume.
>Some indie brands are better than the "official" Japanese brands (especially 4 o'clock, I am forever a 4 o'clock fan)
>I think people 25+ look best in lolita. Except for sweet, of course, but nobody ever looks good in sweet anyway.

>> No.7797351

>>7793270
Then it's no longer a peignoir?

>> No.7797360

I hate costumey "themes" in outfits
Sea-themed print with big fucking etsy octopus headdress on your head? No.
Candy print and you have candy accessoires all over your head and hair? No.
Chocolate EVERYTHING? No, oh God please no

tl;dr I guess I hate silly prints

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>>7795491

>> No.7797368
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I FUCKING HATE BODYLINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.7797389

>>7793053
BTSSB puts out some seriously ita pieces and they make up for their boring print themes by rehashing old dress designs with maximum ruffles, laces, and accessories to distract the buyers.
Most people don't even remember a lot of the print names because they're so boring and un-noteworthy.
The only people who vehemently chase after BTSSB while putting down 'sweet' brands like Angelic Pretty are the equivalent of lolita hipsters who just want to look more mature than they actually are.

>> No.7797391

> Fandom lolita can be cute and isn't any more costumey than OTT

>> No.7797399

>>7797351
Does it have to be, though?
Sheer overdress that looks good with lolita >> completely 100% legit long vintage peignoir.

>> No.7797400

>>7795491
>venus is a cutie
this has zero things to do with lolita, you also seem like a fucking weeb shit

>> No.7797408

>>7795491
I disagree with practically everything in this post.
>0/10 shit taste
>would not take picture with

>> No.7797411

>>7793465
>>7793529

You're seriously fucking arguing about how long hundred-dollar adult baby dresses have to be just reflect upon this for a moment. Just let people do what they want, if you think they look like a piece of shit who cares? It's their money.

>> No.7797413

>>7797399
No, but a peignoir is a specific kind of thing, if it's the same length it's just a sheer overdress(overdresses are fine and have always existed.

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>>7797391
Agreed 100%.
You can't complain about coordinates that fit the silhouette and do everything right, but happen to be fandom inspired, saying, "But they make the fashion into a costume!" when we have pic related. It's cute, but no one is going to believe you if you say that it's a fashion that thousands of people wear daily.

>> No.7797418

>>7797411
>Just let people do what they want
No one ever said people can't wear or buy whatever they want, but there is no reason to say something is part of a fashion when it's clearly not.

Art lolita is not a thing, and whatever it is, is fugly as hell anyways.

>> No.7797421

>>7797418
Tell that to handful of brands and indie brands that release tea-length dresses and showcase them as lolita. The style is changing and becoming more lenient. If it personally offends you that someone calls a dress that's a tad bit' longer "lolita" and you feel the need to seriously intervene you're probably an annoying shit.

>> No.7797423

>>7797421
Tea length dresses have been lolita for over a decade, so it's not that this is some recent change...

>> No.7797427

>>7797411
>unpopular opinions thread

>> No.7797431

>>7797427
I'm not the only one to disagree with an opinion on here, and I don't remember reading anything that said "no disagreeing".

>> No.7797433

>>7797421
>>7797423
I'm not talking about the length, but the fucking silhouette. You can have tea length dresses with poof but bitches think it's still fine to slap on a dress without a petti just cause it's 'tea length' now, which is a recent change.

>> No.7797435

>I freaking love rhapsody wigs goddamn.
>I like it when people are actually creative with their coords.
>I think most lolitas are jobless, socially awkward misfits who can't drive to their own meets and need people to pick them up all the time.
>I think most lolitas can't coord for shit because the only actual "dressy" clothes they own are lolita and they never experimented with normalfag fashion beforehand.

>> No.7797441

>>7797433
Oh. I've never seen/experienced that myself yet but if that's the case I agree with you.

>> No.7797446

>>7797431
>unpopular opinions thread
>"your arguments and opinions are stupid no one cares they're going to do what they want it's their money!"
You could post this exact reply to every single post itt. This thread is all about ranting and being petty, so telling people to stop ranting and being petty is kind of dumb. I'd agree with you if this argument was going down in the lolita general but c'mon.

>> No.7797447

>>7797441
Pretty much all the long dresses posted earlier ITT are without poof. Either way, tea length are fine, full length with some styles falls into EGA and other fashion categories, but without poof it just looks like a whole different fashion...

>> No.7797451

>>7797334
I agree with all of this, but I wanted to point out that since gyaru is mostly dead the gal magazines have nicer, more natural looks now.

>> No.7797464

>>7797169
YES! That is exactly what I hate! guess its not actually an unpopular opinion then. I feel like I was starting to hate on all floordinates instead of just hating their misuse. Thanks for pulling me out of that hole.

>> No.7797470

>>7797229
oh shit I know who you're talking about and I remember that. Gurl did kinda deserve. She posted in a timeline thread if I remember correctly?

>> No.7797502

>Black sweet prints have more color coordinating options, the main reason why I like them.
>Most shoes made for lolita really work only in sweet (aside shoes that are released by more classic or gothic brands but even then some don't look right). I'd rather hunt down shoes from more mainstream shops or brands featured on modcloth with more mature styles.
>That said, brand shoes are fucking ridiculously priced most of the time. Sorry I'm not spending $200 for a pair of shoes similar to kid's shoes from Target.
>Circle lenses look stupid. Save them for cosplay.
>Lolita makeup tutorials only work if you're Asian. Stop using them as your makeup bible. Learn how to play up your unique features.

>> No.7797529

>>7797470

Sounds about right. The description probably doesn't fit many other itas anyway.

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>>7797447

I feel like a bit of a tape recorder at this point. They have poof. The fact they flare out instead of draping like a regular long skirt is evidence of that. Otherwise with too much poof it looks like fucking this.

>> No.7797770

>Honey Cake is overrated, overpriced, and a fairly boring print
>subdued Madonna crowns/flower crowns are really pretty, just no OTT please
>veils are super cute

>> No.7797772

>>7797770

I'll take it further. I think honeycake is downright ugly. I want to burn the purse.

>> No.7797778

>>7797747
I could live under there for a weekend, damn.

>> No.7797780

>>7797770
>>7797772
This isn't an unpopular opinion but I do like the purse, but it's not worth over $50.
I've seen it in person since a friend from my comm got it. It's flimsy, smells like cheap material, and hers in particular had dents because it was used.

It hurts that I work with big brand purses at my job and girls are throwing $200+ dollars at something I would use to carry my dildo in, at best.

The print itself for the dresses is kind of fug and I only like it in the mint colorway.

>> No.7797824

I love maxipad headdresses and b/w dresses

I think circle lens actually complete an outfit. But only in natural looking colours, the weirdest I'll go is purple. Red is definitely out. I've seen a local girl wear those Naruto swirly ones at a meet, judging the fuck out of her since then.

I hate those mumuu dresses that keep on being released lately, they make my skinnyfat self look more fat than skinny

>> No.7797874

>>7797391
Except a lot of the people who think fandom lolita is a costume also think that OTT is costumey.

>> No.7797914

>I don't like going to teaparty meets because I don't like tea (preparing to be exiled for this)
>cat, carousel, and chocolate prints
>overskirts
>lolitas with a nice/decent coord but no hair, makeup, un ironed dress, poor hygiene, etc. If you're going to wear a pretty dress, make sure everything else looks polished or else you look half assed.
>I don't mind glasses in lolita as long as they're not the non prescription hello kitty ones that weebs wear.
>people who buy dress after dress, yet don't have a finished coord for any of them, just dresses.
>stop directing new lolitas to bodyline, if anything direct them to indie brands, innocent world, or meta. Bodyline is ok once you know the fashion and what dresses from there are ita/newbie staples.
>shit on lacemarket/comm sales that isn't even lolita OR didn't sell the first time so they remake the auction every week/few days
>tiered skirts
>empire/high/free waist dresses (cosmic, dream sky) look awful on anyone who isn't tiny and/or asian
>/cgl/ is actually a nice place to go to for coord advice if you ignore all the shitposting and bait. (aimed towards comms who say shit like STAY OFF /CGL/ THEYRE ALL BULLIES!!1!)

>> No.7797918

I think empire waists on plus size lolitas (re NOT LANDWHALES) is actually very flattering.
It doesn't look flattering on normal dresses because the fabric tends to balloon around the fupas. But in lolita that's hidden because of the petticoat.

>> No.7797919
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>>7797914
>I don't like tea
>(preparing to be exiled for this)

>> No.7797937

>>7797169

I usually do 'floordinates' when I'm too lazy to do makeup and hair. It takes a good hour or two to get into lolita and some weekends, I just don't feel like it. Problem is that I have coords in my head all the time, hence 'lol let's lay this out prettily and take photos of it hurr durr." Posting and getting notes is just a bonus.

>> No.7798299

>I don't give a flying fuck whether she's lolita, otome, vintage, or post avant fucking jazzcore, Fanny's outfits are terrible.

>> No.7798451

>>7798299
Them fighting words

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>>7798299
This is probably the most unpopular opinion on /cgl/

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>>7797366
2spooky4me

>>7797400
venus is sorta a j fashion based youtuber. shes not a lolita but cgl is for all j fashions and op didnt say just lolita.

>>7797408
well this is a popular opinion thread so you might hear things you dont to hear? there's like no reason for you to get upset over me voicing my unpopular opinions in an unpopular opinion thread, lol!

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>>7798299
agreed

>> No.7798658

>>7798299
wat

>> No.7798664

>>7797747
>They have poof.
>tfw half the girls are holding the sides of their dresses

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>>7798658

Some people just don't like the taste of fine wine, anon.

>> No.7798674

>>7798666
>implying any of her looks are not overly frumpy and hideous

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>>7798674
>implying anyone gives a fuck about your single opinion

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>hate hate hate wrist cuffs 99% of the time

They were really popular back in the 'old school' days and never truly went away, sure but it's like I turned my oldfag back for a bit and hey! They're super popular again.

Opinions and assholes 'an all that, but the bit that gets me is when people act like an outfit is incomplete without them - 'you need some wrist cuffs anon', 'how about these wrist cuffs'? No, fuck off, I don't want them, thanks for understanding.

I know there are much better examples than pic related but I'm riding the biased bandwagon hard because, thread.

>> No.7798741

>>7793302
please tell me how shaving is so unhygienic, dainty elegant lolita chan

>> No.7798747

>>7798299
Thank you, I am no longer alone.

>> No.7798757
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7798757

> Angelic Pretty is overrated.
> Innocent World is Boring as fuck
> MMM is overpriced shit and should cost half what it does.
> Any girl over a size 14 shouldn't wear lolita.

>> No.7798762

>If tea length jsks can be lolita, then salopettes can be too - they both don't carry the stereotypical shape, and brands release them, so why not
>hate that if I reach the magical age of "too old" that I must "graduate" onto classic and then "graduate" to aristo. bitch please, sweet for life.
>peignoirs are the cancer killing coords - why are these so popular but not the actually MADE for lolita/lolita silhouette overdresses like the ones shirleydeer made?
>madonna crowns are weak tier, come talk to me when someone makes that byzantine shit
>i miss janitors hardcore, her style was/is perfect
>wish short hair was more acceptable
>i'm afraid of white red eyed usakumya but the black colorway with the blue eyes is okay
>STOP PUTTING YOUR SHOES ON YOUR DRESS WHEN YOU LAY OUT A COORD IT HURTS TO SEE

>>7798693
I love the shit out of these just because they're so terrible. Bunny ears, really? and the socks with bunny ears? it's gold.

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>>7798693
Same. Poof at the wrists with no sleeve attached is just silly. Wrists just should not be chunky. It makes me think of cankles, just on the hands.

Pic related is less poofy, but they bring certain associations to mind.

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7798847

I really don't like this print, it just seems like it's trying way too hard - rabbits with antlers?! - Oh the whimsy! Also, something about the art seems way off, it's like tumblr-randomiser generated clip-art or something. Also the brand name, especially in relation to the print, each time I see 'elegy' I read it as 'edgy' (2edgy4me).

>> No.7798852

>>7793396
>tea party shoes
especially with ankle socks jfc

>> No.7798859

>>7798847
Its called a jackelope and its...a mythical creature of sorts lol

>> No.7798861

>>7798757
>over size 14

Is that the US size? How do people even get that big?

>> No.7798862

>>7798847
>complaining about the print

Why? The tassels were hideous enough to merit a rant. Looks like a tacky 50s lampshade trim.

>> No.7798865

>>7798861
>How does weight gain work?
Are you sure you should be making fun of fatties when you're this retarded?
Don't throw rocks from glass houses, anon.

>> No.7798877

>>7798859
I still hate it though, not helped by the amount of bad jackalope taxidermy I've seen ( 'wouldn't it be quirky and amusing if I affixed antlers to this common hare' - no, no it wouldn't).

>> No.7798878

>>7798865
Who's making fun of anyone? I'm genuinely curious as to how people can let themselves go like that, unless they have a severe medical condition. I was disgusted with myself when I got chubby, decided to lose the weight, and just fucking did it.

Your defensiveness is pretty funny, though.

>> No.7798880

>>7798878
>being this sarcastically facetious
Dumb cunt.

>> No.7798881

>>7798862
I hate the print more than the trim, it's unpopular opinions, doing what it says on the tin yo.

>> No.7798882

>>7798878
>I'm genuinely curious as to how people can let themselves go like that
Depression?
Binge eating?
Miscalculating how much they're eating and overestimating how much they're exercising?

Are you really this stupid?

>> No.7798883

>>7798880
>thinks facetiousness is in any way involved here
>accuses others of being dumb

What was it you said about throwing stones from glass houses? Don't be a hypocrite.

If you're going to be grossly overweight, that's your choice. Own it.

>> No.7798885

>>7798883
See >>7798882
and go douche out your sandy vagina while you're at it.

>> No.7798889

>>7798883
>>thinks facetiousness is in any way involved here
So you're legitimately ignorant. My condolences.

>> No.7798890

>>7798882
I got depressed, binge ate, and gained twenty pounds. Realized I gained twenty pounds, lost thirty. It's really not that hard. I even have asthma and blood pressure issues.

Again, no excuse unless you either 1) have a severe medical issue, or 2) genuinely don't care.

While we're on unpopular opinions: fat girls are never pretty, no matter what they wear.

>> No.7798891

>>7798890
>HEY I WAS DEPRESSED AND MY SITUATION WAS X AND THIS IS HOW I HANDLED IT DONT U KNOW EVERYONE HANDLES DEPRESSION THE SAME WAY LIEK DURRRRR XDDDD

>> No.7798892

>>7797914
>I don't like tea
No "hate" exactly but have you tried many types of tea? I don't know how people can say they "don't like tea" because there's such a huge range of flavors and even if you don't like "real" tea from the tea plant there's gotta be an herbal or fruit tisane that strikes your fancy.

>> No.7798893

>>7798890
Cunts like you are never pretty either. Can you stop shitposting now?

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>>7798861
By being over 5'5"? Tall girls wear bigger sizes because proportions, obviously. 12 is a very typical size if you're 5'10" or so. Pic related is a US size 14 model.

It's like people think if THEY are obese at a size 10 or whatever, that everyone is.

>> No.7798897

>>7798890
>2) genuinely don't care.
Apathy is a symptom of depression.......

>> No.7798898

>>7798891
>>7798885

>mah depression
>mah lack of willpower

If you don't want to change, just goddamn admit it. Christ. It's not like you have to lose weight for anyone else but yourselves. So if you won't do it for yourselves, what are you trying to convince me of?

>> No.7798899

>>7798890
My unpopular opinion: People like you should legitimately be exterminated from the gene pool.

>> No.7798900

>>7798895
But that girl's fat. I have yet to see anyone who wears size 14 that's not fat.

>> No.7798901

>>7798898
>making it personal
I'm not even fat and I find you obnoxious. Can't you just fuck off?

>> No.7798902

>>7798899
>THIN PRIVILEGE!!! GTFO MY GENE POOL!

You're just as gross as they are, congrats.

Sage because this is so fucking off topic.

>> No.7798903

>>7798900
Are you saying an average looking body is fat just for the sake of riling people up or

>> No.7798904

>>7798902
>nobody said thin privilege
>people just think you're an unfunny shitposter who should kill themselves
I don't see the issue here.
It's an unpopular opinion thread, don't like it? Then leave kiddo.

>> No.7798905

>>7798903
> implying that is a normal looking body
Were you raised in Murica by any chance?

>> No.7798906

>>7798895
Legitimate point, I did forget about tall girls. My apologies. Though wouldn't they generally just have their dress size based on bust/waist, then "Tall" tacked onto the end? They do make talls for ladies, yes?

>>7798899
You're welcome to your opinion, but I have decent genes, other than the asthma. Don't worry, I'm only going to breed once, you won't even notice it.

>>7798901
I could, but I won't until I get tired. I wouldn't even say I threw the first stone here.

>> No.7798908

>>7798902
I'm honestly kind of mad because you're bullshitting about depression. How does the janitor not ban idiots like you?

>> No.7798909

>i love peignoirs

>> No.7798910

>>7798906
>I have decent genes
Retards like you never have good genes.

>> No.7798912

>>7798908
I'm not the person you were responding to, moron.

>> No.7798913

>>7798906
I have yet to see "tall" on a label like for men (I've got 6'5" brothers that have a helluva time finding clothes). That's a 14, nothing added. SOMETIMES you see "tall" on pants, but never on dresses or shirts.

But a whole damn chunk of the store dedicated to "petites".

>> No.7798915

>>7798912
>samefagging this hard
Why are you so defensive about your unpopular opinion? Stop trying to prove yourself to us.

>> No.7798916

>>7798910
See, all these stones. It's not retarded to think to yourself, "gee, I wonder how very large women get to be that large if they care about their appearance." It's a sincere question. If they don't care, that's one thing. If they suffer through medical conditions (pregnancy included), that's another thing. But people who care enough about they look to spend hundreds on frilly dresses could probably stand to spend $15 a month on a gym membership.

For the depression issue, there is medication for that. I use a generic prozac. US doesn't have universal healthcare yet, but still, pills are cheaper than good lolita.

>> No.7798920

>>7798905
Please direct that to the bean chees and corn eaters
>According to a new report from the United Nations Food and Agricultural Organization, the United States is no longer the world's fattest developed nation―Mexico is. Nearly a third of Mexican adults (32.8 percent) are considered obese—people aged 20 and older whose body mass index (BMI) is 30 and above.

>> No.7798921

>>7798916
>still this fucking mad that someone doesn't like your opinion
You won't have my approval and you never will anon. Now begone, basic bitch~

>> No.7798922

>>7798913
That's a shame, they really should do something about that. I imagine tall women have to rely a lot on tailors. I'm on the petite end of the spectrum, and yeah, our section of the department store is pretty big. Mostly granny clothes, though.

>> No.7798923

>>7798915
Yeah because it's so hard to believe more than one person thinks you've turned your self-pity about your cankles and fupa into condescending shitposts.

>> No.7798925

>>7798921
>mad

I don't think you're interpreting this situation correctly.

>> No.7798927

>>7798923
>Yeah because it's so hard to believe more than one person doesn't like an unpopular opinion in the unpopular opinion thread

>> No.7798928

>>7798927
>people are actually shitting on an unpopular opinion in the unpopular opinion thread
>are your vaginas really aching this much to have sand in them

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>>7798923
>bawwwing about condescending shitposts while having condescending unpopular opinions
I'm not even that anon but it sounds like you're not a fan of people taking the piss out of your attitude.

>> No.7798931

>>7798929
I'm not the one who posted the original unpopular opinion.

>> No.7798933

>>7798931
The point still stands, you know.

>> No.7798935

>>7798906
Idk a 14 is still reasonable. A UK 18 or US 14 is generically a 108-109 cm max bust which is generally the max of fully back shirred brand.

I'm around 6ft tall and a size 8 and I am at the max measurement for most partial shirred brand, and I have a 'healthy' BMI. I agree with this anon's sentiments though, anything bigger than a US size 14 or a 110 cm bust and just give up on lolita forever.

>> No.7798937

>>7798929
>>7798931
The original was "don't wear lolita over size 14." This shit escalated pretty quickly and in a silly flaming fashion.

>> No.7798939

>>7798933
I didn't make the condescending unpopular opinion, I'm just annoyed that people are pissing their bloomers over it in the thread literally made to be filled with unpopular opinions. Holy shit, someone thinks fatties shouldn't wear lolita, time to throw a tantrum about it instead of moving the fuck on.

>> No.7798940

>>7798937
No, it actually started here >>7798861
>duhhhh how do people gain weight durrmmm
Then anon got mad for getting called stupid.

>> No.7798942

>>7798898
Depression meds cause serious weight gain. I gained 50 lbs because of them and hospitalization where they force you to eat large amounts of food three meals a day. I was 135 (I'm 5'9) before I got put on meds and shot up to the 190s within four months. I'm losing it now because I can finally be active without being exhausted all the time. Not being forced to sit around 24/7 by hospital staff helps too. I'm one of the luckier ones because I only gained 50, I've seen girls gain over a hundred after years of it. Some of them even make you always ravenously hungry too, for some reason they tried lithium on me (despite being for bipolar, not depression) and it made me constantly starving. Not just hungry that willpower can help, but starving like I haven't eaten in three days starving.

Depression anons, there actually is light at the end of the tunnel. Just be patient with the medication situation, it took over twenty meds and nearly a year before they finally found a combo that works for me! Combos do help btw, I had been on all of them as single doses and they didn't work until combined. I'm actually feeling things now, instead of being exhausted and numb all the time and have stopped cutting and trying to kill myself

>> No.7798945

>>7798939
>I didn't make the condescending unpopular opinion
You did. Why do retards always forget what they say?
>>"While we're on unpopular opinions: fat girls are never pretty, no matter what they wear."
>inb4 you claim that wasn't you

>> No.7798946

>>7798945
Sorry to disappoint, but nope, wasn't me. For the record, I'm
>>7798939
>>7798931
>>7798928
>>7798923
>>7798912
>>7798902
And, much earlier,
>>7797770

>> No.7798947

>>7798916
>For the depression issue, there is medication for that

Have some pills! Depression gone, problem solved! They have been beneficial to many people and have their merits but it's very often not that simple. If this isn't a semi-successful troll then I fear you have far too much of a black & white outlook on things.

Sage for wtf happened to this thread/ me being stupid enough to reply/ janitors can we remove the crap that turned this into a weight debate.

>> No.7798949

>>7793310
Rosettes are just a thing so brands can charge fifty bucks for a little bit of fabric and ribbon.

>> No.7798950

>>7798945
They actually didn't, that was me.
>inb4 samefag

I'd tripfag for you if I wanted to put that much effort in.

>>7798942
I've been hospitalized for bipolar 1 before. Fuck, they really do force feed you, and there's nothing to do but sit around all day. I do apologize, I forgot about weight gain as a side effect, though I would probably put that in with "medical conditions."

>> No.7798951

>>7798946
I think you're lying.

>> No.7798953

>>7798942
tbh posts like this annoy the shit out of me. I'm depressed and medicated and I come to 4chan to get AWAY from this kind of talk. I just want to talk about cosplay and pretty dresses.

>> No.7798954

>>7798947
Generally, they work best in combination with therapy. But therapy is super goddamn expensive, even with insurance, so a lot of people just can't do it.

>> No.7798956

>>7798951
Good for you, I guess. Enjoy living in denial of a stupid, stupid truth.

>> No.7798957

>>7798953
>coming to 4chan to escape shitposters and people who are negative
....lol.

The internet has some pretty oblivious people on it tonight.
One can't figure out how people gain weight.
Another thinks depression is a willpower issue.
Some bitch gets pissy about condescending shitposts.
And then there is you.

>> No.7798960

>>7798957
No, I said I came to escape discussion of meds and depression.
>what is reading

>> No.7798961

>>7798916
Wait. You took PROZAC for depression?Honey, Prozac is what someone's family doctor gives soccer moms when they get a little bit sad. You probably weren't depressed. That's like shitting on people with emphysema because you can run just fine with asthma.

>> No.7798964

>>7798960
>thinking bringing up unrelated depression discussion after shitposting still isn't shitposting
>and shitposting happens here all the time
Again, just incredibly naive. I'm sorry for you.

>> No.7798967

>>7798960
Any thread on /cgl/ with any negative emotion behind it is likely going to turn to medication and mental health issues. A lot of us have them, sadly.

Sorry, anon.

>> No.7798972

> this thread
Never change, /cgl/, never change.

>> No.7798976

>>7798960
I do apologize if it upset you anon, I was just trying to educate the idiot who doesn't actually know what she's talking about.

>> No.7798977

>>7798964
>>7798967
More like "old and not used to this here". I took a years-long break from regularly browsing 4chan and I'm still getting used to how much it's changed. Years ago, I won't even say "this kind of shit wouldn't have been tolerated!" - no, more like it never would have come up at all, people would have been too ashamed to talk about it here. It's weird to see people offering support for fatties and anons who talk about their weight/depression/meds openly. I'm not even saying "this is awful and I hate it", just that this is really, really weird to me.

>> No.7798980

>>7798957
>Another thinks depression is a willpower issue.
This really gets my goat...
People who say this haven't been actually depressed, I swear.

>> No.7798984

>>7798961
Flouxetine (sp?) is an anti-depressant, I take it in combination with Abilify, and (unrelated) amphetamine salts, with an as-needed anti-anxiety I can't remember the name of.

If you have a better anti-depressant to recommend, fire away, but flouxetine is pretty well trusted, even if you consider it mother's little helper.

>> No.7798985

>>7798977
You've missed a lot. 4chan is open as fuck right now. Stroll over to /adv/ when you get the chance, it's crazy.

>> No.7798990

>>7798985
I'm sort of afraid to, but the potential will eventually lure me, I'm sure.

Meh, I'll get used to it. Just damn, shit's so different.

>> No.7798993

>>7798984
It's very mild. I'm currently on Paxil, lamictil, and remeron, along with Xanax and adderal. Everyone's depression is different but Prozac is the first go to because it's so mild in comparison to the others and has the least side effects. Sort of like how you'd be suggested ibuprofen for pain before they'd put you on opiates.

>> No.7798996

>>7798993
My mother's on lamictil and xanax, maybe I'll ask about them. Mental illness is often genetic from what I understand, so maybe what works for her will work better for me. I haven't had as much improvement on Prozac as I would've liked. I've actually been irritable and sad a lot lately.

Thanks for the suggestions, anon. Sage, this shit's off the rails.

>> No.7799027

>>7793697
You and me both, anon-chan

>> No.7799135

>>7793434
In theory they help you keep an ear on your child so you don't lose them in the crowd.
Personally though I'm of the opinion that you shouldn't be bringing your damn toddler to a con, squeakers or no

>> No.7799140

>>7798899
hamplanet detected

>> No.7799247

>>7798299
I don't they're terrible, but I think they're dreadfully boring.

>> No.7799321

>>7798639
Sometimes opinions are unpopular because they're bad. That list made you sound like an ita tumblrite newfag which is why people were disgusted by you.

>> No.7799327

>>7798961
>people in America are actually prescribed medication for being a little bit sad

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>>7798757
i agree with all of this so hard.

>>7798299
>>7798747
>>7798656
thank god i thought i was the only one who thought this for a sec

>>7799321
ok well im just saying, dont go in an unpopular opinions thread if youre not ready to hear things you dont agree with. sure i can see why people wouldnt think the same way as i do and im not forcing my opinion on anybody? people can call me ita, tumblr, bad, whatever. idrc tbh. if i thought everybody agreed with what i had to say i wouldnt have posted it in a unpopular opinion thread!

>> No.7801398

>I rage inside when I see people sticking brooches or pins onto their dress
>All them tiny holes you're making
>Stop it