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>Is there such a thing as "too young" for lolita?
>When did you start wearing lolita, and if you were on the younger side what was it like?
>Are there any young girls in your comm? How well do they dress and act?
>If you ever had a kid, would you dress them in lolita?

>> No.7712784

I don't think there really can be "too young", but there can be "too old". It's a very feminine style and requires a more youthful appearance to pull off. An older person in lolita would look haggard and ageplay-y, like an adult baby or something.

The only cases where I can see someone being young as a problem would be if the dress was not taken in for a smaller frame or a young person not dressing themselves well enough, due to their age/ignorance.

>> No.7712941

It looks better on kids than on adults.

>> No.7712985

There's a girl who has posted in the angelic pretty tag on tumblr a few times that looks like she's 12/13.

>> No.7712992

Jesus Christ, leave your kids out of your fetish.

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>>7712784
>It's a very feminine style and requires a more youthful appearance to pull off. An older person in lolita would look haggard and ageplay-y, like an adult baby or something.
Nah, as long as you don't wear Sweet with OTT prints it works just fine even as granny.

>> No.7713002

Looks like it's time to get today's fap out of the way.

>> No.7713004

>>7712784
>>7713000
I could see an older woman pulling off a well-composed Classical coord.

>> No.7713011
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She looks like Alice Liddell.

>> No.7713016

>>7713000
>this art
Yooooo OT but thanks for posting that, found a new artist I love

Also I think Lolita's an all-age thing depending on the style. There's enough variety

>> No.7713018

>>7713011
Yeah, make your daughter into a weird fetishistic plaything instead of being a good mom and taking care of her, derp!

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7713025

>>7713011
a little. she has the braincase for it

>>7713018
i don't think that dressing a child in a style you like is tantamount to not taking care of her.

>> No.7713031

>>7713025
Did you ask her what she thinks of it?

do little girls like dressing up like that?

>> No.7713038

>>7713018
lol. A little girl wearing an outfit to make people look like little girls is probably the opposite of a weird fetishistic plaything.

>> No.7713040

>>7713031
>do little girls like dressing up like that?

why, there's no way a little girl would like dressing up in pretty dresses!

1/10 made me respond.

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>>7713031
no, i've never met her

discussing whether or not she wants to wear it or enjoys doing so is conjectural on our parts. but if you want to accuse that woman of forcing her into it, the burden of proof usually falls on the accusing party. i have no reason to expect that she doesn't want to wear it

>> No.7713056

>>7713043
Oh god this is so cute.

I don't want any children but if I did I'd totally dress them in lolita if they wanted to.

>> No.7713057

>>7713043
She's incredibly sweet, makes me want to have a baby ._.

>> No.7713058

>>7713043
The only problem I have with this is that it may be difficult for the child to play in. But that's mostly because as a little girl I spent a lot of time outside and liked to climb trees and dig holes etc.
Other than that the kid looks hella cute and seems comfortable.

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>>7712992
>>7713018

>> No.7713124

>>7713043
That skirt is getting dirty.
Kids are messy. Imagine that pretty print getting bogers, dirt and juice all over it.

>> No.7713137

>>7713058
>>7713124
I buy damaged brand and resize it for my daughter. She loves my "fluffy princess dresses" and can name more prints than I can. Because they were already damaged I don't feel as bad that she will mess them up, but we still save them for semi special occasions or days she won't be doing much rough play.
It also gives me a great chance to study brand construction, and I always take a pattern from whatever I take apart before I cut it down smaller. I am so glad we have lolita to bond over, even if she adores super ott sweet (naturally) and I wear gothic and classic.

>> No.7713144

>>7713137
I'd ask for pictures but I wouldn't put my daughter on 4chan of all websites. Maybe some with her face concealed, though?

>> No.7713145

>>7713018
>derp!
>>>/lgbt/

>> No.7713154

>>7713058
Not someone with kids, but I don't imagine it would be an everyday thing. They could still have normal kid clothes for getting dirty and playing, and fancy lolita stuff for special occasions. It's no different than dressing your kid up once a week for church.

>> No.7713157

>>7713144
We don't have any current, mostly so I won't be tempted to post them anywhere, but I will post one in the next couple days if the thread is still active. I am almost finished with her El Dorado OP, and I know she would probably love to take pictures in her new dress.

>> No.7713164

>>7713137
that's super cute of you to do that

>> No.7713199

I do feel bad for girls that start at like 12 or 13 when they haven't really developed and suddenly the get boobs and no longer fit into any of their clothes

>> No.7713204

>>7713000
Ok this art is perf. I just want to be a granny lolita and wear frilly shit with my ol' frilly friends

>> No.7713285

well classic lolita is already grandma ageplay half the time, so that's a given that old lolis is doable.

>> No.7713378

>>7713000
>still wearing ita mini-hats at 80+

>> No.7713380

>>7713199
I started at 13 and I still fit into my stuff from back then. The only thing that has changed significantly is that my boobs have grown a bit but I had room to spare in my lolita stuff back then anyway. Most girls don't grow heaps from 13, I didn't at all.

>> No.7713404

>>7713199
Oh man. I discovered lolita when I was 14, and I'm actually kinda glad I wasn't able to start wearing it right away, because soon after I underwent a late puberty and my bust size increased by 6 cm in a year and a half.

>> No.7713413

>>7713043

Adorable!

>>7713018
>>7713031
Really don't see what's wrong with this, in fact the clothes couldn't be more modest.
I'd worry more about those 12 year old girls dressing like hookers than this little girl.

>> No.7713415

>>7713404
Glad I waited as well, I had godawful taste at 14. Tried to make my own dresses that were Dolldelight levels of bad.

>> No.7713760

My little sister loves lolita, and from time to time I will let her wear my brand. I just recently got her two cheap bodyline dresses. Which she's already worn a couple times. When I bring her to meets she is usually pretty well behaved and no one seems bothered by her.

>> No.7713777

>>7713000
>me at 60+ age and not giving a fuck about it

>> No.7713833

>>7713777
You'll rock that shit anon,that's the spirit.

>> No.7713840

>>7713000
That picture is so fucking cute.

>> No.7713879

There's this one little girl whose picture got posted sometimes because her mom had modified AP to fit her, and then she showed up a few years later lookin hella kawaii at the Kokokim store opening? Anyone have that?

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7713886

Fanplusfriend just recently released a mother child type matching set.

>> No.7713902

I won't buy actual lolita for my Baby Girl because kids grow so freaking fast. I thought about Bodyline's kids stuff, but that'll depend on how it compares price-wise to normal little girl poofy dresses.

>> No.7714036

>>7713902
I make everything extra long when I resize it, and maintain the full adult panel of shirring in the back to make them last as long as possible. It's still a stretch for me to buy a $50 damaged dress, but it is something we waited on for quite a while to make sure she was still interested in it.
I definitely won't say it's an easy or even overly rewarding experience, however. As much as she loves the dresses when they're done, resizing for a 4 year old is a damn nightmare and ends with me taking the dress completely apart to retain lace for headbows or bonnets, and a matching dress for her doll if there's enough of everything.
I have gotten her a couple bodyline pieces off the sales comm cheap and she loves them just as much.
>>7713886
This is fucking adorable.

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>>7713031
Idk about little girls these days bit I always loved frilly dresses and whatnot as a kid.

>> No.7714155

>>7713000
Lifestyler goals.

>> No.7714258

>>7713413
Agreed. Lolita is modest, why would a child wearing it be a bad thing?

>> No.7714378

>>7713886
This is way too cute.

>> No.7714414

>>7713378
>being 80+
>caring what anyone thinks
have you ever met an old lady

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>>7713879
Here anon

>> No.7714473

>>7714036
You are amazing. I bet it looks adorable

>> No.7714556

>>7713199
>tfw boobs haven't grown since 6th grade
Feels good man.

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>>7714556
>boobs haven't grown since 7th grade
>98 cm, 75G cup since then

Feels bad man

>> No.7714705

>>7714471
>>7713879
her name is Kara I think, and she is the same girl as OP pic >>7712760
I think she's like 12 or 13 now? I wonder if she still has to modify stuff or if she can fit into stuff regularly now.

>> No.7714952

>>7713043
where is that comic about the mom forcing the daughter to wear cosplay outfits

>> No.7715022

>>7713137
Where do you buy damaged brand dresses?

>> No.7715046

>>7714705
I don't doubt it still has to be modified. She looks pretty slim. The only way a little Japanese 13-year-old is going to fill out AP dresses is if she's really chubby.

>> No.7715051

>>7714473
That's sweet of you. Thanks so much! I've been really worried about how people might feel about me ripping apart brand for her and everyone's responses are really encouraging.

>>7715022
Anywhere really, you just have to be on the look out on the different sale sites. Generally they will be ~super~ cheap $50-100 and the seller almost always has *DAMAGED* in the headline or something similar. Her El Dorado was $50 shipped and it was pretty gnarly. The armpits are stained, and there are spots all over the upper portion of the skirt, but since I have to cut those pieces down anyway there's not much of a fabric loss. Other times people rip the zippers out and don't want to repair them, or the corset lace or whatever. I've considered advertising a type of consignment to get more. "Will buy damaged brand!!~" or something similar lol.

>>7714705
I remember someone saying something about her being a lolita designers daughter? Any truth in that?

>> No.7715171

>>7715046
The tights are super baggy, but other than that everything looks amazing. So cute!

>> No.7715371

>>7714952
Oh man, please, I need to see this.

>> No.7715989

>>7714414
+1

>> No.7716026

>>7713124
Depends on the kid. My grandma dressed me in Daisy Kingdom every goddamn chance she got from the time I popped out until I was fucking 11. She still has all those dresses and they're all in pretty good condition. All you really gotta do is teach your kid good manners and the difference between nice clothes and play clothes.

>> No.7716036

I don't get why this is even something debatable. Literally every other mom out there with a little girl dresses the little girl in the mom's style. You pick the clothes, you obviously are picking them to be what looks good to you. If you like lolita, your daughter will probably have some lolita dresses. If you like leggings and minidresses, your kid is gonna be in leggings and minidresses. I've got a friend who is crazy for vintage clothing and has some matching mommy daughter vintage style dresses (shirtwaist dresses for her and Shirley Temple esque dresses for her daughter)

>> No.7716042

>>7715046
idk i fit into AP when i was 13 but tbh i was pretty much adult-sized by then

>> No.7716043

>>7715371
My Mama Is a Weeaboo
It made me rage/cry.

>> No.7716045

>>7716036
Eh, not really. I mean, I dress "alternative" and I don't force my kids into it. I pick shit they like and what is "fashionable" for their age. Granted I do steer them towards colors I like, but if they say no, I don't press it.
Then again, I grew up in a household where I was forced to wear what she wanted me to. She'll debate it to this day, but I fucking hated wearing dresses every Sunday (and now I'm a lolita, go figure).

>> No.7716071

>>7716042
I wish I had started younger honestly. I feel so old to be building a decent wardrobe. I know a ton of lolitas have to be older to pay for their brand themselves, but man I wish I had the time they have.

>> No.7716087

My daughter's decision to be a lolita was not too much of a shock because she's into looking like a princess and dressing up. Lots of little girls are. The real shock was what it did to my wallet. Being a lolita on my own is expensive enough.But having to buy things for my seemingly particular little girl has turned into a bit of a nightmare. So while I'm glad that she looks adorable, it isn't cheap.

>> No.7716151

>>7716087
How old is she, if I may? Where do you buy her things?

>> No.7716190

>>7713000
The Biddy Frill Committee.

>> No.7716193

>>7713380
>most girls don't grow heaps from 13

where the fuck do you live, anon? My friends and I all grew at least like 4-5" from age 13. I shot up almost a whole foot. 13 is thebeginning of the puberty growth spurt.

>> No.7716194

>>7713886
>hate kids
>have dog that's the size of a child
>buy set, alter it to go on dog
>frilly pet/owner matching outfits

>> No.7716197

>>7716043
i did not expect that at all

>> No.7716202

>>7715046
I'm pretty much the same size as I was when I was 13, didn't really get any taller, just lost some baby weight.

>>7715051
No idea! Her blog's been set to private too.

>> No.7716241

>>7716194
pics pls, you are perfect

>> No.7716244

>>7716202
Damn! She's more kawaii than I will ever be.

>> No.7716278

>>7714556
>tfw boobs are smaller than in 6th grade
38DD to 36C
Feels great man.

>> No.7716310

>>7716278
Jealous.

>> No.7716531

>>7713164
Thanks, anon!

>> No.7716875

>>7716278
Same here, but I went from 34C to 34A. The only thing that happened between 6th grade and now is that I was thin in 6th grade, gained a bunch of weight when I got older, and then lost it all, and for some reason my boobs decided to shrink in the process even though I'm back to the same weight again.

>> No.7717071

>>7716202
What's her blog anyway?

>> No.7717408

>>7714556
>boobs remained the same when i was in high school
>now 23 and still A cup
>feels great man

>> No.7718567

>>7716151
She's going to be 9 this year. And I have been buying Bodyline and finding loliable dresses here and there. Thinking about Taobao. Just not sure we would get the items in time before she grows again. There is a shop on eBay too. I think it's called Hearty Boutique or something like that. They have cute stuff.

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>>7717408
>all these small cups in this thread

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>>7713004
There was an older woman wearing Vampire Requiem in the back ground of a photo of Aerynsys.

I saw her and fell in love like "THAT'S THE OLD LADY I WANT TO BE WHEN I GROW UP!"

I'm pretty sure she's the older lady who used to post on EGL/DL a few years ago, there's an older woman in the NY lolita comm who's got great style if this isn't the same lady. I don't know what name she goes by online though.

>> No.7718900

>>7718884
aww what an awesome lady

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>>7718884

>> No.7718905

>>7718884
Her EGL username is arsenicold_lace

I think her name is Mary? Apparently she's really awesome.

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Looks like she hasn't posted on DL in some time, her coords are great though. I wonder when she got into the fashion and what other styles she dresses in.

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>>7718914
She was probably born in the style.

>> No.7718936

>>7718914
There were photos of her from the Dances of Vice parties in full on romatic goth, I think? I know the NYC lolitas have gone to a few of their events in past.

>> No.7718952

>>7718914
She's been a lolita for a long time and last I checked she still is.
She probably stopped posting because d_l is dead. She probably doesn't care enough to post anywhere else

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>>7718952
Is it?
I honestly don't bother with any lolita communities except /cgl/ I had no idea.

I like that compared to some people who might be deemed "too old" she doesn't look out of place. I really admire that.

Also, plucking through her photos, I might have met her at SPWF. Small world.

>> No.7718973

>>7716278
>tfw your boobs never grown at all

feels bad man

>> No.7718979

>>7713000
I think it could work on old women if it was very, very toned down and boring. Frills, bows, excess layers, etc. wouldn't look right on a prune face.

>> No.7718998

I saw a really cute picture of a lolita in Honey Cake with a little girl(daughter, sister?) on tumblr, but I can't find it for the life of me now. It was taken from behind them and they were walking through a store. Anyone else seen it/saved it by chance?

>> No.7719048

>>7716193
I'm the same height I was at 13, and I'm 5'9. I also wear the same size clothing, though I'm nowhere near as twiggy as I was back then.

>> No.7719051

>>7719048
Same. I was my full height in 5th grade(10? 11 years old?), taller than everyone, then got to watch everyone grow past me when they hit their growth spurts normally. I am much more grateful now that my boobs never grew than I was back then!

>> No.7719076

>>7718979
I hope cgl will still be around when I am 40-50, I can't wait to see all the girls raging when I am still wearing OTT sweet.

>> No.7719079

>>7719076
I hope you're not white because you'd probably still look good if you weren't. If you're a prune face, yes, I will rage.

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>>7719079
>I hope you're not white

>> No.7719088

>>7719079
The stereotype that white women don't age well when compared to other races is pretty stupid and untrue

>> No.7719090

>>7719088
you age like milk

get over it

>> No.7719091

>>7719090
And they say /pol/ is racist.

>> No.7719096

>>7719091
>one negative but sadly true comment about white women out of a sea of racist comments about minorities
>SOO RACIST!!!
It's not a stereotype. You just don't age as well.

>> No.7719097

>>7719088
Meh, I've gotten in arguments with guys over this as a reason to like asian women OVER white women. So far, no one has actually cared.
Dicks think in the moment, they don't think in the long term and they don't use logic. That's why they are constantly hitching themselves to obvious future hambeasts, women with baby rabies and crazy trains.

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>>7719090
This white chick is 42 and she looks younger than a lot of 20-somethings I know

It all depends on how you take care of yourself, anon. Asian women age who treat their bodies like shit age just as bad as white women who do the same thing

>> No.7719102

>>7719088
I think only dark skinned people can take credit for having the capacity to age better due to the melanin in their skin. But even so, if you have good genetics and take care of yourself you can age well no matter what race.

>> No.7719105

>>7719097
the only reason a lot of Asians age better is because they treat their bodies better.

Go to Northern Europe and places like The Netherlands/Germany/France and you will see a LOT of older white women who have aged gracefully as fuck.

Americans treat their bodies like shit and it's why we look like shit

>> No.7719107

>>7719098
caking yourself with whore make-up does wonders

>> No.7719110

>>7719107
>implying Asian women ever leave the house without a pound of makeup

lol

>> No.7719111

>>7719105
don't forget Americans and their tanning

>> No.7719115

>>7719098
This woman also has a full face of makeup! Face it, on average, you simply don't age as well as women of any other race. Cherry picking mildly attractive white women will not counter the many average white women with wrinkles, freckles, spots, loose skin, bags, etc.
>>7719102
Yes, melanin is a huge component but I also think lighter women of other races age better, too. Amerifat asians who eat just as much processed shit as white American women look 10x better when they get old.

>> No.7719121

>>7719111
This, also. A big reason so many white girls in USA/UK age so fast is the tanning addiction.

Seriously tired of my mom saying I look unhealthy cause I'm pale but when I get a sunburn and come home with a red face I get complimented on how "glowing" and "healthy" I look. No, I'm fucking sunburnt.

Also Americans have unhealthy lifestyles in general compared to Europeans. We eat so bad.

>> No.7719123

>>7719105
I've been to Europe and most of you look pretty bad when you get old. You probably have lower standards because you're white and surrounded by women who age poorly.
But it doesn't matter much in terms of lolita because most lolitas drop the fashion before they get ugly. Everyone will look like a disgusting old person at some point. It just happens to you earlier.

>> No.7719125

>>7719115
But I don't think Asian people age better than whites on average either, anon, or at least where I live. It's blacks that age best. Asians and whites are on par. I don't live in America mind you where all you can eat is ghastly "food".

>> No.7719126

>>7719115
> Amerifat asians who eat just as much processed shit as white American women look 10x better when they get old.

done with the b8, this is obviously not true at all. lol

1/10 made me reply

>> No.7719127

>>7719123
>I've been to Europe

>obviously has never been to Europe

qt

>> No.7719128

>>7719126
the proof is in the pudding

you know, the same processed pudding you Amerifats eat

>> No.7719132

>>7719126
>30 yo white woman with crows feet
Enjoy your beauty while it lasts.

>> No.7719133

>>7719107
>>7719115
Wow, want to know how I know men are replying? Only men would be stupid enough to think makeup hides wrinkles. If anything, it usually cakes in the wrinkles and makes them far more prominent, ala Jessica Nigiri. Everybody knows this, except men who barely know what makeup even is unless its porn star tier.
Men please leave, your opinions are as useless as you are

>> No.7719136

>>7719133
THIS OMG THIS

Makeup doesn't cover wrinkles, silly boys

>> No.7719137

Are lolitas normally this racist and ageist?

>> No.7719140

>>7719133
Wrinkles aren't the only sign of aging but ok. Let's pretend like one white woman with all of her blemishes covered represents most of you, lol.

>> No.7719141

>>7719137
all the people talking shit about old lolitas and white lolitas are men

so no

>> No.7719148

>>7719140
Now you're just backpedaling and pulling shit out of your ass, keep going, it's fun watching you make a fool of yourself

>> No.7719153

>>7719141
I'm not a man. I'm a woman who will probably look much better than you when I'm 55. You can keep yourself inside all day, wear sunscreen and longsleeves, eat just as healthy as you'd like, and you're still gonna look like curdled milk.

>> No.7719157

>>7719148
Yep, I'm totally wrong. White women age beautifully. I'm just a bully who doesn't know what she's talking about! Enjoy your age spots.

>> No.7719160

>>7719141
I can see some being women, a lot of women who are into Jfashions are obsessed with Asian beauty standards and end up applying the same standards to themselves and others even if they aren't Asian.

Asian beauty standards being, childish looking and keeping the childish look into old age.

>> No.7719161

>>7719140
>Frills, bows, excess layers, etc. wouldn't look right on a prune face.
>prune face
but this argument is totes not about wrinkles right

If she has no wrinkles and can easily cover skin pigmentation with makeup, who gives a fuck how old she is? The argument is about aesthetics and this woman looks pretty good. It's not like other lolitas don't wear makeup at all.

>> No.7719162

>>7719153
oh so you're just a racist Asian bitch, okay

I'm sorry all you can attract are fedoras with fetishes for azns, it's made you really sandy.

>> No.7719163

>>7719153
>I'm asian so I am immortal
damn, this board has really given you a superiority complex. I guess it's not that surprising

>> No.7719169

>>7719133
>implying I mentioned wrinkles in my post

tehee i'm a man silly girls

>> No.7719177

>>7719163
Lots of Asian chicks think this way. It's sad because it makes them unbearable to be around for any period of time. They literally turn "being a cute azn" into their entire identity. That's all they are, a "kawaii azn~~" also they like to talk about how they look however much younger than their real age, which they usually don't

It's really cringey. I worked at a place that employed basically only cute girls, they were all azn except me, and hearing them talk about how asian they were got old really, really fast.

Also, I learned that there's nothing a bitchy Asian girl hates more than a white girl who is as cute/cuter than her. it drives them fucking mad

And omg when Asian guys hit on a cute white girl, Asian girls hate that too. It's funny

>> No.7719178

>>7719162
>>7719163
Thing is, is she a CUTE Asian or does she have a busted face like those girls in the Japanese nitpick thread? Looking young is nice and all but if you were never pretty there's no point, really.

This reminds me of those people who claim that they're regularly mistaken for young teens despite being in their twenties. Of course they never post their faces, because then we'd see that the reason their age is ambiguous is because they have fat faces and weak bone structure.

>> No.7719206

>>7719178
People also fail to realize people purposely guess younger ages to flatter you.
Like. I literally have wrinkles on my face. But whenever I go to asian restaurants or talk to asians randomly they are occasionally like "oh wow, you look 18, 20 at most! I can't believe you are (real age)!"
Didn't realize 18 year olds had smile lines and forehead wrinkles. It's just flattery.

>> No.7719210

>>7719178
More likely than not she's either got the gummy generic 6/10 face of a regular Jap.

Or she has a busted 2/10 Chinese face.

From the amount of hate coming from it, I would posit it's a ching chong ding dong.

>> No.7719224

>>7719206
honestly the only time you can legit accept a "I only thought you were __ old" is when it's coming from a kid aged 9-14. I say that because kids 8 and younger think 15 year olds are old so they don't count

>> No.7719225

>>7719178
I have been to Japan and a lot do have odd looking faces, most don't fit into the "kawaii" stereotype look.

Actually, that is what I loved about Japan. It was nice seeing girls who look older, women who were old and girls who don't fit the "kawaii" stereotype still dressed in Lolita, Fairy Kei, Decora, etc. I wonder if the west is more obsessed with looking young and having the cutesy look.

I think they just see different fashions as an expression of who you are, so that really doesn't stop if you are "ugly" or an old women with wrinkles and sagging skin.

>> No.7719239

>>7719206
My plastic surgeon said smile lines are normal for some people. I was obsessed with these kind a things. Even children have folds and lines on their faces.

Forehead wrinkles are common, even in teens. Some wrinkles and lines just come from overuse of certain parts of the face and muscles. Not always a sign of aging.

>> No.7719253

>>7719239
sage for ot but this is true

I went to school with a guy who was super expressive, smiled a lot and raised his eyebrows a lot. He starting getting wrinkles at like 13? He was still cute and young looking cause he was like the happiest fucker ever

>inb4 he was white

Actually he was filipino, so fuck ya'll

>> No.7719257

>>7719239
Yeah, this is true. I have had slight marionette lines since I was a teen, always made me depressed. I went to get fillers and botox done and was explaining to the doctor how it depresses me because even my 50 year old mom doesn't have them. If my 50 year old mom doesn't have them, why do I?

She said if a younger person has them, it comes from overworked muscles in the lower face...forgot what the muscles were exactly called. Comes from frowning a lot most of the time.

>> No.7719290
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I can't believe no one has posted this yet in this thread

>> No.7719347

>>7719290
Tiny old women are my lifeblood.

>> No.7719361

>>7713886
welp looks like its time to have kids.

>> No.7719421

>>7719239
>>7719253
>>7719257
Yeah I have had lines on my forehead for years (I'm 22) which I'm pretty sure is because I always raise my eyebrows when I epilate them. I've been doing this since I was 12 or something and it adds up. My boyfriend is five years older than I am and treats his skin like shit but he has no forehead wrinkles whatsoever.
>blunt loli bangs to the rescue

>> No.7719489

I know the thread has gone in a different direction, but I feel this is the appropriate place to put this.

My sister-in-law recently had a little girl and asked me to make her one of 'those pretty dresses that you wear'.

I figured following a basic baby dress pattern and adding some bows, matching shoes and socks would be enough yes?

I have some cute ladybug fabric that reminds me of my milky berry op so I figured following that design would work. Maybe add some tulle underneath to give it some poof.

Anything I'm missing?

>> No.7719497

>>7719489
This is more a conversation you need to have with your sister-in-law, but bear in mind that whatever you make she won't be able to wear for very long, and that whatever you make is probably going to be trashed because babies are gross and they grow very quickly hahaha. I mean, I know that should go without saying, but you see those mommies (especially first-timers) who get so anal about each and every little stain if they dress their baby in something nice and if your sister-in-law is one of those you may not want to make something super nice until the baby is a few years older. Also I wouldn't do tulle underneath for a really young infant, even very soft tulle can be scratchy and cause redness (unless she was wearing leggings underneath).

>> No.7719513

>>7719497
Oh no, the fabric isn't anything special and I'm not expecting it to last long at all (and we're talking NEWBORN here, she should literally still be in her belly but circumstances I don't need to get in to)
You're right about the tulle, I'll ask her and see what she thinks, but maybe an underslip would help. (Or leggings like suggested)

But its most likely only going to be a one time worn thing, where she gets photos and that's it.

Thanks for the reply!

>> No.7719786

>>7719489
A little milky berry lady baby??! This sounds adorable.

>> No.7719866

>>7719421
I admit i look younger for my age but i have some slight and not so visible (also due to bangs) forehead lines, i suppose i have them not only for muscle work also because i don't use creams to hydratate skin, so my skin lose a bit elasticity even if it's greasy and dry at the same time.
>issue is i'm allergic to most face creams and pimples creams are too aggressive and make my skin dry
>i should try something for sensitive skin or i will get early wrinkles soon

>> No.7719884

>>7719866
Check out la roche-posay creams, they are great imo.

>> No.7719898

>>7719489
You can get ladybug buttons on ebay/in a decent craft store too. craft store might be quicker, but you can get big bags of them on Ebay and use them for other projects then

>> No.7719921

>>7719239
My mother works in a kindergarden, she told me there was a one year old kid that had forehead wrinkles.

>> No.7719938

>>7716193
depends on how early you start puberty. I haven't grown more than 3cm since I was 13, growth spurts tend to stop in the first few years following menarche.

>> No.7720399
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theres this girl i know, shes 12 i think, but she looks and acts like 15 or 16...
she joined our comm and her coords imho meh to okay. when she said she was 12 everyone acted like her coords were god tier just because she was a little younger to the fashion. i felt a bit bad for her because she needs con crit but no one will give it to her, they think she'll cry or something. everyone just lies and lies to her, shes never going to get better like this...
and its hard to watch because if everyone was honest to her, she'd really have a head start and do some really great things when she actually gets 16 or 17.

>> No.7720659

>>7720399
It isn't really hard to give subtle con-crit either. "Oh my gosh! If you wore that dress with light colored socks, that would be so cute." "You'd look really great with big hair!" "Hey, let's play dress up."
Is she kind of a chubster? How does she fit into her dresses? Indie dresses? Tailoring?

>> No.7720671

>>7719884
Oh, thank you! I bet they will cost a bit much but at least they are worth.

>> No.7720690

>>7719048
Same anon, i'm very similar in body as i was 13-14 years, only some cm more in height and less skinny, but still petite and tiny for my age.
>>7719076
I would do the same, can't wait to annoy all the girls and older women still in lolita but in classic or gothic only instead me in sweet, pastel prints and animal bags.
>wonder how would be cgl after 20 years

>> No.7720708

Lately the weather's been so warm I've been wearing all my favorite clothes, but the moment I leave the house I feel weird.
I didn't use to care what other people think, but I think I finally just feel too old to be wearing some of my clothes.
It's a dilemma, I still want to wear them, but I feel embarrassed looking so kinderwhore in my mid twenties. Mid twenties is still young, dammit!

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>>7720659
shes pretty thin, she wears bodyline, replicas, and i think her mom sews her skirts, small bows, blouses, and such. shes pretty basic sized so shes doesnt really needs tailoring.
is there like a friendly way to just say buy coord by coord, instead of buy as many dresses your allowance can buy?

>> No.7720719

>>7720712
Maybe focusing on the pieces that would go with a dress? "That dress would look great with a nice peterpan collar blouse"

>> No.7721812

>>7714471
oh my god Kaya's gotten so cute. she's living my childhood dream

>> No.7721835

>>7721812
oh derp yeah it's kaya not kara, hurr on me
I want to say I'm jealous but I hated wearing dresses and tights when I was younger so the lolita childhood life would have been a painful nightmare for me

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My bf's 3 year old cousin saw me in lolita and insists on having a matching outfit to mine (I've shown her other, non brand dresses but she HAS to have one just like mine). I'm thinking of ordering her an oojia replica and altering it to her size for her to run around in and to do a cute little photoshoot. I'm normally against replicas but in this case I can make an exception.

>> No.7722043

>>7721838
why not get her the bodyline carousel one and then some peignor thing to go over it. nothing against your child cousin, but you shouldn't support somebody like oojia.

>> No.7722055

>>7722043
The problem is she's super picky. It can't be a similar dress, it has the be an exact version of the exact outfit I was wearing. If I did do it, I'd buy from a replica sales community instead though, that way oo jia isn't making any money off of it.

>> No.7722061

>>7722055
those people will use the money you give them to buy even more replicas...
fatty chan just looking for an excuse lmao

>> No.7722102

>>7722061
No, I just wouldn't want to give my bf's cousin something that she'd be disappointed in. Then again, it might not even be worth it, cause like you said, the money will just end up funding more replicas.

>> No.7722116

>>7720708
I feel you anon. I used to wear some stupid ass looking things in public and didn't care at all. Now that I have a decent wardrobe and can coordinate clothes well I feel super self-conscious when I dress up and go places.

>> No.7722125

>>7721838
>>7722102

What is it with people bending over backwards to do anything and everything for children?
You're not going to make a picky 3-year-old any better by giving her exactly what she wants all the time.
Bodyline has a line of children's dresses and costumes, get her one and tell her to suck it up and be happy she gets anything at all..

>> No.7722288

>>7722125
I would hate to have you as a parent

>> No.7722635

>>7722125
I agree. The only thing I hate more than a spoilt brat are the parents/relevant adults that make them that way.

>> No.7722726

>>7722125
Sort of agreed. I don't care if people give children presents and spoil them a little but this girl sounds like a brat. If she's going to throw a tantrum when the dress she will grow out of in a few months isn't 100% identical to the one you spend hundreds of dollars on she can fuck right off. Plus, children are flighty. For all you know she'll want a different one of your brand dresses next week or will totally fall in love with a Bodyline dress.
If her parents are raising her right at all then she'll get over it.

>> No.7722864

Just out of curiosity, what is the youngest comm member you have or had that behaves nicely? Like, at what point do they just not coord well and act like an idiot at meets?

>> No.7723390

>>7722055
Do not cater to this behavior. She is three. Do it and you will regret it for the rest of her life. She needs to be explained to how much these dresses mean to you and, though she cannot understand value yet, how much you spent on them or what you had to possibly give up to buy them.

And completely agreeing with >>7722043 because do you really want her first experience to be theft? Your entitlement sounds almost as strong as hers..

>> No.7723416

>>7722288
Anon has a point though. My sister-in-law bends over backwards for her daughter, does and gets whatever she wants. She is a horrible child to be around, very spoiled and demanding. Every time my husband and I visit, she is demanding for us to buy her stuff. We don't even want to take her anywhere and deal with her anymore.

We hate birthdays and Christmas because she always wants the most expensive things and acts like a brat when she doesn't get it. She doesn't even take care of the stuff she has.

>> No.7723977

>>7722635
My niece deliberately tore one of my dresses when i wouldn't let her use it to dress up.

>> No.7724022

>>7723977
Why did you let her near it?

>> No.7724162

>>7723390
Okay well I thought it would be a cute idea to get her a matching dress. She isn't demanding a dress in the first place, and wouldn't be disappointed if I didn't get one for her. I'm not trying to get her into lolita or anything, so it wouldn't be like giving her a replica would be all that bad. Though I do agree, if I did buy a used replica, they would just use the money to buy more replicas, and I wouldn't be okay with that. I'm thinking of buying a new dress of Taobao just so I can get her a matching one for cheap.

>>7722125
I wasn't planning on giving her exactly what she wants all the time. But never giving her what she wants is a bad idea too.

>> No.7724174

>>7718884
I just wonder what is her age, because even with wrinkles and a oblivious aged face, she looks so gorgeous, in every lolita style. I saw her also rocking the sweet style in black or red.
>i think to be like her when i'm old

>> No.7724245

>>7724022
I was wearing it at the time.

>> No.7725078

>>7724245

Why didn't you fuck her up?

>> No.7725112

>>7723977

Let her parents pay for a new dress!
Fucking hell.

>> No.7725113

>>7719206

I had forehead wrinkles when I was 12, I didn't get smile lines until I was 22 though. We all age different.

>> No.7725630

>>7719177
>hearing them talk about how asian they were got really old really, really fast.
Anon i feel you my home town is actually about 80-90% so all the schools are asian. I wish i could go to class without having to hear about someone's "asian-ness"

>> No.7725670

>>7716026
I've never heard of Daisy Kingdom, so I looked it up and now I wish I knew how to sew and alter patterns! A lot of those would look really great as lolita, minus the gigantic 80's sleeves.

>> No.7725679

>>7718960
>>7718952
>>7718914
>>7718905
>>7718884
She is extremely knowledgeable about lolita and she runs luckypacks on Livejournal. I want to be like her too!

>> No.7725693

>>7718884
Is that woman you're talking about wearing fishnet fingerless gloves?

>> No.7725696

>>7725630
For real! I never hear white people talk about how white they are, or black people talk about how black they are, or hispanic people talk about how hispanic they are.

It's weird to me

>> No.7725846

>>7725630
>>7725696
It's also because Asians have it drilled into them how important it is to *be* Asian and proud of it, especially when they're not living in their country of origin. This weird ass mindset is why they have the no bringing other-ethnicity boys home rule and why a lot of them have to bring up their ethnicity as a special thing.

>> No.7725855

>>7724162
The key is to only give things when they're behaving appropriately. No whining. Otherwise you're nurturing bad behaviours.

Think of it like how you're suppose to act and reward when training a dog. A lot of it really goes hand in hand.

>> No.7726747

>>7713886
this is actually really cute! i cant wait for mine to pop out! We're gonna have a lot of cute family photos next year!

>> No.7727389

>>7719162
>I'm sorry all you can attract are fedoras with fetishes for azns, it's made you really sandy.

The funny thing is about this claim is this:

It's white women who have the creepiest, wierdest fetishes for asians. When you hear a White chick say she "likes asian guys", it's almost 99.9% certain she's a massive weeb from a broken home who dreams of becoming a Yukapon tier idoru. On the other side of the equation, the sorts of white guys who say they like asian chicks range from mouthbreathing K-ON addicts to fratbros to fairly ordinary dudes. In other words, it's a diverse, broad range of white men from all over the spectrum.

But please, continue making your jealousy readily apparent. My white boyfriend finds it very funny.

>> No.7727493

>>7718973
Ugh, yeah. 20yo and still 30A.

>> No.7727502

>>7724245
My fear when I go out in public.

>> No.7727598

>>7719290
This is exactly what happened to my Chinese grandmother.

>> No.7727609

>>7727389
>It's white women who have the creepiest, wierdest fetishes for asians.
It's not, though. I mean, female weebs are annoying and weird, but it's rare that you'll actually fear for your life with one. But every Asian girl I know has at least one story about being stalked by a white guy or feeling like they're going to be kidnapped when they're talking to someone.

>> No.7727629

>>7727389
>the sorts of white guys who say they like asian chicks range from mouthbreathing K-ON addicts to fratbros to fairly ordinary dudes

And the one thing they all have in common is the view they have of asian women. That is, of a cute, virgin, respectable family girl who'll happily stay at home cooking and folding clothes all day and then pop 40 children out of her.

>> No.7727632

>>7727629
Do you really think the internet is like real life?

>> No.7728186

>>7725078
She's still paying out of her pocket money. Given that it was Moitie, it's gonna take her some time.

>> No.7728279

>>7728186
>Your a dick.

>> No.7728283

>>7728279
>*You're a dick.
Jesus, people.

>> No.7732200

>>7727609
>rare that you'll fear for your life

Perhaps that has something to do with the fact men commit violent crime at orders of magnitude above the rate women do?

There are plenty of male Asians and Blacks who behave just as creepily with white women (Joji Obara comes to mind), you don't really notice it with the latter because black men fetishizing white women is just normal and accepted for some reason.

>> No.7732206

>>7727632
it's closer than you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kbGrQe17cU

>> No.7732212

>>7727632
Even then, let's assume what she says has some truth to it but strip away the hyperbolic veneer.

What's wrong with a man who finds feminine traits attractive? Nothing.

>>7727609
Somebody else has already addressed this, but you're downplaying it here. "Annoying and weird" are too neutral in tone.

You've got bad people in both groups, the difference is that the sorts of English Teacher types who go to China and Japan and Korea and fuck around are basically just men who are taking the path of least resistance to sate their urges. They're not really "fetishists", they've just found a market where they're marketable on nothing but race alone and ruthlessly exploit it, and, to be fair here, plenty of Asian guys do the same at cons, so I'm not really going to slam them for it, but I do hate the bad reputation they give.

But female weebs are something else. It's not merely an instinctual desire, they are more often than not the prototypical weeb. They'll go to Japan, they'll hook up with peculiar men like Yukapon does, they'll do everything possible to marry and stay in societies where they'll never be accepted on any level and so on.

I suppose the distinguishing feature for me is that female weebs are often self-loathing, but male weebs generally don't proactively pursue that whole "I actually want to be Japanese" thing that the likes of Applemilk, Yukapon and countless others have done. They're just horny men.

It's telling how many of the famous female megaweebs come from broken homes for example.

>> No.7732229

>>7732206
There's nothing peculiar about this when you consider black men have been pursuing white females for similarly fetishistic reasons for decades, and this is something that the wider media celebrates with films, TV shows and so on.

The attempt to make it sui generis, that is, something that's exclusively about white men and asian women, has political motivations.

I'll just remind everyone that the interracial pairings in the US with the highest divorce rates all involve white women and non-white men. You can make your own mind up from there.

>> No.7736344

>>7727629
I bet most of white men with asian girl feticism is about considering Asian girls more submissive, feminine and into traditional roles, while in reality isn't always true. But hopefully not every white man into asian girls is a pure waifu believer.