Ouji/dandy thread

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7654359]

Haven't seen a thread for ouji/dandy lately. Anyone in?

Mostly looking for ideas in terms of head wear aside from top hats and tricorns.

[Anonymous No.7654404]

>>7654359
Miho Matsuda does have some nice hats for that http://mihomatsuda.ocnk.net/product-list/4

[Anonymous No.7654803]

I just made an instagram, I would like some real-men ouji to follow. Suggestions?

I'm already following technotropicsm - whatever the spelling.

[Anonymous No.7656383]

>>7654803
>real-men ouji
>technotropism

lol

But no, I think actual men aren't into it because of the fact that it is still a girls' fashion (albeit based on a mens' fashion). Sooo yeah

[Anonymous No.7656677]

>>7654803
http://agentlemandoesnotconga.tumblr.com/
http://mrmizer.tumblr.com/

There's a few others, but I don't know their Tumblr/blog account names.

One is dating Briz Blossom from the look of things? Both of the guys behind Automatic Honey wear ouji, too. The others I know of all seem to have stopped wearing it/disappeared.

[Anonymous No.7656813]

>>7656383
technotropism is a girl?

[Anonymous No.7656824]

>>7656813
everyone on the internet is a girl

[Anonymous No.7656852]

>>7656383
what the fuck he's a man isn't he?! plz be troll

[Alex No.7660646]

>>7654359
Where do you go to shop for your ouji outfits?

I was thinking about getting this:
http://www.cosmates.jp/en/shop/product_info/products_id/16139/

But am having a bit of trouble finding matching pants/shirt to go with it.

[Anonymous No.7662015]

>>7660646
No to cosmates. Thats from Fan plus Friend, its actually on sale for a bit less right now too. they have shirts and pants too but F+F is always a bit iffy and people are wary of it.

[Alex No.7662430]

>>7662015
So where do YOU shop? Or do you make pieces yourself? I suppose I could try, but that'd take at least months to make just one costume...

hmmm....

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7663044]

>>7660646
I haven't worn any boystyles for a while now but this was what I'd do with offbrand in the past. It's definitely not what I would call ouji but kodona (yeash I don't know if it's a viable term anymore to use)/boystyle to some extent? Lately I've been wanting to get back into it as lolita has been more on the fence for me.

As far as where to shop, I find that investing in a good jacket or vest helps make a statement. AatP, Boz, BPN (RIP qq), h.Naoto and Ozz are my Japanese brand picks I'd recommend mostly because they both cater in men and womens sizes. If you don't mind shopping around on the 2nd hand market or waiting out some sales, at the price of what you've got there, I was able to pick this piece up from AatP. I have nothing particular against F+F but the only thing I've ever gotten from them was pretty bleh and back over 5 years ago so I can't really say much in terms of their quality now.

[Anonymous No.7663050]

>>7656813
>>7656852

He's not a girl, but idk if I would consider him a 'real man'. He's more like one of those random dudes you would see at a progressive rock show.

[Anonymous No.7663088]

Shame, my collection of pics are on my old PC. Would like to see this alive though (lol yea right).

>>7654803
What's your instagram? I'm not sure I'm into it enough to make one, but I always enjoy seeing actual guys wearing the style (assuming you are one).

[Alex No.7663138]

>>7663044
I can't even begin to comprehend what you just said. AatP is.... Alice and the Pirates?

Boz - wot.
BPN - wot
h.Naoto - wot
Ozz - Ozzy Osbourne? What about him?

I apologize, I just don't know that much about Ouji/Dandy/EGL and while I like the dresses offered by lolita....
It messes my inner masculinity. So I'm looking into Ouji and trying to learn what I can. Can you take me through what you meant please?

Thanks in advance!

[Anonymous No.7663155]

>>7663138
Atelier Boz
Black Peace Now
h.Naoto ...

They are all brands

[Anonymous No.7663157]

>>7663138
AatP = Alice and the Pirates
Boz = Atelier Boz
BPN = BPN if you search auctions. Black Peace Now. Sub-brand of Peace Now (which is now bankrupt and gone)
h.Naoto = h.Naoto, big goth brand with something like thirty sub-brands
Ozz = Ozz On/Angelo/Croce another brand with multiple sub-brands

[Alex No.7663169]

>>7663155
>>7663157
Thank you very much! I'll look into them ASAP.
Is there anything that you think I should know about those brands (buyer beware)?

[Anonymous No.7663186]

>>7663169
They're aimed at Japanese size M for the most part (some pieces come in multiple sizes, but it's rare), so if you're a manly man or super tall, you might have some issues fitting. Also beware that Atelier Boz and BPN both have "men's" and "women's" lines (AatP does as well at times). You can usually tell by which way the buttons are facing, but auctions sometimes have inaccurate photos.

Basically, be cautious and double-check measurements.

As far as quality goes, they're all pretty good. h.Naoto is more goth/punk style, so it may not work for what you're wanting all the time, but they have tops that make for nice wardrobe filler regardless, and the occasional deconstructed frock coat.

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7663201]

>>7663138
Ah, apologies, I assumed that you might know them since often people get into the fashion straight point from lolita but >>7663157 pretty much summed it all up for you (thanks)!

There isn't really a brand that caters to ouji style and sometimes you just have to pick through to get your outfit together.

Self posting that brand is not the end-all (these are way old but heck).

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7663230]

>>7663169
Alice and the Pirates = mens are indicated with an extra tag that has a spider on it.

Boz & BPN = I don't know if there's a way to tell directly on the tag but be aware that there exists mens and womens versions of the same thing and like AatP, the difference is in stuff like the darts for vests/jackets and so on (pretty much make things to fit better that gender's body type). But by far, I think these two brands do a lot of good jacket/vest work and really clean and crisp as far as their designs go.

h.Naoto and Ozz can be a bit all over the place in terms of style and some people might think it's more 'fun' because they work with prints more. I know both have mens but for the life of me I can't remember if their jackets have men/womens version or not.

[Alex No.7663838]

>>7663230
Dayum that looks hawt.

I guess I have only one final problem, and that's in seeing things that match. Since this isn't a video game so there's no simulator, and I can't go to some store to try these on.

Is there some sort of simulator I could use to see how these would look together, or am I just going to have to brain it myself? Do you think it'd be /cgl/-related enough to post potential outfits here and get some critique?

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7664013]

>>7663838
There's coordinate threads that show up now and then (if you don't see one, you can always start one). Most people would just post an item and ask for help and others can come in and help you with a collage to put some options together.

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7664040]

>>7663838
There's coordinate threads that show up now and then (if you don't see one, you can always start one) - right now there's one here: >>7662765 . Most people would just post an item and ask for help and others can come in and help you with a collage to put some options together.

[Anonymous No.7665789]

>>7663201
I understand these are old, but they're not very good
>right:
The fit of your blouse is off
the ties look messy and much too wide
same with the open collar
hat looks silly
hair is unstyled
socks look awkward as fuck because with the high boots it's making an awkward gap
nothing really goes together
you should still wear make up
you should also bind
I get you were trying to go for a "punky" esque look, but it's messy in a not so appealing way
>Left:
looks better, blouse still looks a bit off
pants need to fit higher, don't leave awkward gaps
bow is a bit too big
those pants don't look dressy enough to be pair like that, they appear to be punky cargo pants of some sort

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7666347]

>>7665789
To each of their own but thanks for your opinion. Have some funtastic scans as your reward.

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[Anonymous No.7666364]

I have massive tits that I can never bind totally flat (34I) but I still want to wear ouji sometimes. What if I did a Lady Oscar kind of thing?

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7666366]

Looks like I'll be lone dumping on this tread...

[Anonymous No.7666378]

My meager contribution. I'm really interested in capes. I rarely see actual people wearing them though.

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7666398]

>>7666364
I don't think everyone needs to bind nor is binding comfortable for everyone. There might be a different interpretation between people as a fashion and possibly cross dressing.

Wearing a sports bra and have a less waist-conforming shirt (be it blouse, long jackets, vest with waist ruffles) that help make your figure move away from the hour glass shape and look more rectangular.

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7666405]

>>7666378
Capes? Challenge accepted! I like them too but sadly the ones I've owned never provided much warmth and would get squished while wearing a backpack/cross body purse.

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7666437]

Ok. Finding capes are pretty hard haha.

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>>7666437
Lol right? Thanks for looking though. I remember I used to have a picture of the most amaazing coord that included a cape.

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[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7666520]

Goddang this jacket.

[Anonymous No.7666613]

>>7666398

Unfortunately, making my waist look as big around as my chest would make me look like a hamplanet. There's a 12 inch difference between them. It's busty, or bust.

[Anonymous No.7666628]

>>7666398
>>7666613

Also, there's the added issue that I have only ever found one brand of sports bra that accommodates my cup size, and they do not minimize.

So making myself look more rectangular is simply not feasible.

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have a few from older threads

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[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7667247]

>>7666628
You sound either cry moar or was not able to make sense what's going on but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt so I'll break it down for you:

1. I did not say "be the rectangle" just ebb away from the hour glass shape and CLOSER to a rectangle. I'm not telling you go box or go home. It just reduces the impact of BOOBS being there. What does this mean? Give something like sailor-boy style or something baggier (at the waist) a try. Or even jackets that have waist ruffles that distract the eye from that shape with ruffle butts (like the image here) or a stiffer vest/vest parts that does not start buttoning under the bust.

2. I made no claims that sports bra minimize. If you want minimize than you're back to square one, go bind or compression. What sports bra help is make your boobs 'loaf' a bit and less 2 singular cup things on your chest and flattens out the area between your boobs so that when you wear something, it will be 'flatter' there not the whole torso.

3. 34" bust - 12" difference = 22" waist, giving yourself a few inches isn't going to send you packing to look like hamtown unless you're super duper petite. You can dress in more uniform in color (going all black/white/...) to hide the curves/ not draw attention to that.

If you don't think it works trying to do these things then hell, maybe you are SOL.

[Alex No.7667820]

>>7667143
I LOVE that headpiece. Any idea where it might be found?

[Anonymous No.7668066]

>>7667247

You just straight up didn't read what I was asking for and went off on your own tangent.

As I said up above, 34 is my underbust, my cup size is I. As in HIJ. My waist is 30 inches. So again, no, I don't want to go less hourglass.

What I want to do, as I said in post one, is something like Lady Oscar from Rose of Versailles - clearly a woman, but in mens clothes. I'm looking for resources for that.

[Gloomy !S112HlAgNs No.7668181]

>>7668066
Actually, the way you wrote it made it sound like you weren't able to squish down. I don't know the anime but the pic you posted wasn't all that busty and it came off that way to me. Never did you directly ask if it's possible to work the style while keeping the woman's hourglass shape.

>>7667820
Her hat is this one from Baby, the Stars Shines Bright. She puts in a lot of extra stuff to her hats to fit her different cords. You can see the hat a bit better (and compare what she's added) here: http://aerynsys.tumblr.com/post/74352455336/white-rabbit-coordinate-for-valentines-day

[Anonymous No.7668194]

>>7668181
Really is a rather darling hat. I wonder if it's possible to change the color of the flower, though. It seems like it should be, though.

Thanks a bunch!

[Anonymous No.7668234]

>>7668066
This style isnt about passing as a male. It is still a mainly female style worn by females and modeled by females. I only know a handful of guys who wear ouji. So your example isnt really anything different than what it is normally. >>7667143 is clearly a female for example as will most pictures will be. Now the thing is your bust is pretty large and so you will have to work to not have it so emphasized. Binding is a thing but you also can hide curves by having jackets and bows/jabots around your chest to make it look like it isnt your boobs.

[Alex No.7668271]

>>7668234
>It is still a mainly female style worn by females and modeled by females

Which makes it a huge pain in the ass for the relatively few guys to get into it. Hadn't found much that isn't very feminine. I really don't comprehend the point of what was supposed to be male fashion being female-oriented, but Okay. Do whatever ya wanna do.

[Anonymous No.7668280]

>>7668271
Because sometimes women want to take a break from the petticoats and wear pants and tailored vests and jackets with coattails too.

[Anonymous No.7668286]

clothing isnt gendered
bodies arent gendered
people of all genders wear ouji
people of all genders wear lolita

[Alex No.7668303]

>>7668280
Oh no no, I'm not complaining about women being into Ouji or anything, I'm completely fine with that. The problem is just that guys that want to get into it don't really have many options, that's all.

It just seems like a male-centered fashion would have more options for...well...males.

>>7668286
I disagree entirely. Clothing follows the general public's idea of what should be masculine and feminine and are made to appeal to people of those genders. In other words, we, the people of those certain genders, give clothing the genders. I WILL agree that people of all genders wear Ouji and that people of all genders wear lolita. But you have to consider the purpose of the fashion styles and you'll see that while people of both genders wear lolita, it was in the opinion of the people making the clothing to appeal to females. Similarly, it appears that the people making the Ouji fashion are appealing to females while making it appear like a male-oriented style.

[Anonymous No.7668318]

>>7668234

I'm thinking a flared jacket would help muffle my honky tonk badonkadonk, too. Like this, kind of. More of a smooth curve from my collar, out, and back to my waist, instead of a cliff. Epaulets would probably help the illusion a little, along with the flare hiding my junk in the trunk, so that it looks like my comparatively small waist is the result of the clothing.

Forgive my shitty trackpad doodle.

[Anonymous No.7668347]

>>7668271
Because there just isnt men out there doing it? It isnt like there is nothing for males, brands make male sizes for you. It is an issue with lack of male interest, not that girls wear it too.

There are tons of options for you, the same as girls. The only different is that you are more likely to have to need custom if you arent asian male size.

>>7668318
Flared jacket is perfect, I see a lot of females say they wear long jackets to hide their hips. There was an ep of I think kawaii international that did a thing on Akira and while she isnt really busty or hippy she gives advice on how to be more guyish. I am not sure if defining your waist is the best idea, because that is a pretty feminine thing to do and you need to go the opposite way.

[Anonymous No.7668367]

>>7668347

I am going for Lady Oscar, though. I don't want to pass, I want to look like a badass lady knight of the court.

[Anonymous No.7668392]

>>7668367
Yes, but if you want to do a good outfit in this fashion, you need to understand that part of it is being guyish. You arent going to pass, this is fact. But even >>7666364 is trying to be manly. Her character IS a girl who is trying to be a boy because she wants what a guy can do. So you have to match, you need to hide your curves as much as you can to fit into things and it look good.

[Anonymous No.7668399]

>>7668392

Actually, Oscar is trying to be recognized as a woman AND a soldier. She identifies as female throughout the manga, it's her father who wanted her to be born male. She's not trying to be a man, or even look like one, that's just her uniform as captain of the guard. She wears a dress to a ball to prove the point.

[Anonymous No.7668404]

>>7668367
... did we read/watch the same thing? Because Oscar had the same build as every male character in that series without the crotch bulge, which is to say wide shoulders, fairly flat chest-to-stomach plane, and slightly wider hips. Be a badass lady knight if you want, but Oscar was pretty damned dudely.

[Anonymous No.7668424]

Dumping girly oujis

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>>7668448

This might be it, the others lean more Aristocrat.