Heroes of cosplay fallout

[Anonymous No.7654244]

"And seeing all of this, that’s where I’m at. I don’t even want to go on my Facebook or Twitter or Tumblr anymore. Literally, panic attacks. And, I always tell people, “When it stops being fun, stop doing it.”

http://jessicamerizan.tumblr.com/post/90710363700/im-done

Has tumblr genuinely broken one of the cast members? Jessica works for Bioware, she should be used to criticism. Will she leave cosplay? Has the show changed cosplay forever?

[Anonymous No.7654263]

>>7654244
Will an attention whore truly quit? No. :(

[Anonymous No.7654270]

>>7654244
>Jessica works for Bioware, she should be used to criticism.
I don't think you can compare working for Bioware to being on a reality tv show in terms of negative criticism though

[Anonymous No.7654276]

>>7654263
>implying they're all not attention whores with dirty pasts and nudes online

[Anonymous No.7654295]

My mom has cancer, so you should reblog my stupid pretentious fucking Peter Pan research!

[Anonymous No.7654304]

She never minded the attention when it was positive and she was quoting herself everywhere on the internet for being so funny.

The entire group should be ashamed of themselves. They sold out for money and fifteen minutes of fame, and now that's biting them in the ass and that's when they choose to cry about it.

[Anonymous No.7654330]

>>7654276
The hell you say. ;)

[Anonymous No.7654517]

You know I partially blame yaya for this since she's the one who wanted to have her own show and this is what she gets. I know it's mostly syfys fault for the editting to make the cosplayers look bad but who was the one who get these people to film her in the first place? It's obvious that she doesn't have a manager of some sort and the show was going to be called Yayas World. You'd think that after the first season of the disaster wreck would just make them want to quit after hearing feedbacks but I guess some people will never learn. This is what happen if you're drunk on fame, you will do anything to get noticed without thinking of the consequences. Hope Yaya enjoy those 5 more seasons.

[Anonymous No.7654545]

>>7654244
>My mom just survived cancer (again). I’ve gone to more funerals than I have weddings. My childhood was spent watching people I loved suffer through addiction, prostitution, jail, child protective services, abuse. I personally experienced things that are too triggering for me to talk about.

Wow.. just fucking wow. She's right at home on tumblr. Life is so hard when you get to be on TV and make costumes for a living.

[Anonymous No.7655125]

>>7654545
Plus coattailing riding everyone

[Anonymous No.7655145]

>>7654270
I'd agree
At companies where critique is mandatory it's more professionally based (minus the usual backbiting) and about your work and/or how to make it better
the heroes of cosplay stuff is alllllll personal

[Anonymous No.7655171]

>>7655145
given how much holly and jessica claim to have "contributed" to bioware and mass effect, they deserve the shit

[Anonymous No.7655218]

>>7654270
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!

you should see the 5 billion tons of shit /v/ slings at Bioware all day everyday, specifically at her for ruining Morrigan when it comes to DA:I

[Anonymous No.7655234]

>>7654270
>Jessica works for Bioware, she should be used to criticism.

Hahahaha "works for Bioware"
She the CM for Canada and just bans people on their forums. She used to have a real job with them, but starting Crabcat and very publicly showing off not working at home landed her a part time job wrangling forums.

Hope that internet/tv fame works out for you!

[Anonymous No.7655238]

>>7654270
Working for Bioware probably gets you far more death threats.

[Anonymous No.7655667]

How long before Bioware tries to use this as a marketing campaign?

But seriously what a baby.

>I’m tired of traditional cosplay.

What does that even mean? Honey you havent even been in the community that fucking long to know what traditional cosplay was and be a grumpy oldfag like some of us.

I also love how all of this crying is being done while she is on this fabulous work trip in England. Life is so hard!! Ppl dont like my cosplay!! PS I am experiencing an amazing opportunity right now but cant enjoy it because cosplay is serious business!!

[Anonymous No.7655675]

>>7655667
Traditional cosplay would be...what? Catgirl maids? Trekkies?

I love that she's not taking any of this criticism in a sense that maybe she should take some time to self-reflect that maybe she has some bad traits and should work on improving them. Instead she's just hiding in the politically-correct plush bouncey castle of safety that's Tumblr wearing a sandwich that says "My mom has cancer" and "no really" on the back.

[Anonymous No.7655713]

>>7655218
I don't think people complaining on 4chan is the same as being on a reality TV show though... In terms of exposure and putting yourself in the public eye for criticism.

[Anonymous No.7655786]

>>7655713
You're right. Everyone who signs the contract to be on a broadcasted TV show is completely blind-sided by the fact that they're on a national TV show.

Pretending like you live in a bubble where no one would ever criticize anything you do, and being a damsel because you face that criticism is childish. Instead of just saying, "man, fuck cosplay", she NEEDS to mention her sob story. I don't see what her mom having cancer (which sucks, I've been there) has to do with with her witty post not getting any weblawgs ;--; If a normal friend of mine acted like this I'd cunt-punt her to the moon.

We seriously put up with far more bs in the cosplay community because everyone's afraid that "it wont be fun" and "its just for fun!!". You're a person who cosplays. Being Cosplayer doesn't excuse you from otherwise selfish, arrogant behavior.

[Anonymous No.7656632]

so did she cry or just kill herself?

[Anonymous No.7656642]

>>7655234
>She used to have a real job with them, but starting Crabcat and very publicly showing off not working at home landed her a part time job wrangling forums.
For reals?

[Anonymous No.7656760]

>>7656642
No its not. Shes the lead CM for bioware Edmonton and Montreal. I highly doubt someone they stick on running the forums only would be flown to England to do crap with their VA sessions there.

[Anonymous No.7656785]

>>7654276
So, um, about those nudes... anything more to share?

[Anonymous No.7656786]

>>7655234
That's bullshit, she got a promotion to overseeing the other CMs only a few months ago

[Anonymous No.7656795]

>>7656760
Yes they would. She's a moderately attractive girl on a tv show who cosplays. Who else would they bring? Some other nameless white dude? Nah. They gotta be ~different~

[Anonymous No.7656858]

I just looked up her tumblr and I'm really surprised that she actually posts excerpts of her academic work there, and then cries that people don't care about it.

There's just as bad, if not worse, criticism in the academic world when you're competing for funds and trying to get published. But no, you have to cry because tumblr doesn't understand your literary analysis. I honestly don't know what she was expecting.

In real life I will always do my best to empathise and understand others, but I really don't understand this public self victimisation on social networking sites.

[Anonymous No.7657019]

>>7656786
>Implying "Community Manager" is a real job when all you do is watch over forums/face book pages and probably don't even get paid

[Anonymous No.7657044]

>>7657019
I used to be a community manager for a big games company. It was the best paying job I ever had. The hours were abysmal, however, and back then it was a shitty environment, no communication from the rest of the company regarding outages or bugs etc, you were expected to be in the office at 8am on Xmas day, upper management were sexist pricks. I'm sure not all companies are the same but it can be shit.
A friend of mine is doing CM for another company and he gets to fly to the US quite a lot for meetings, meet some pretty cool people that appear in the games, etc. His experience is totally different to mine as its a different company, but seems to be the high life to me.
So yeah this girl could be having a great time at Bioware.

[sieg No.7657101]

>>7654244
legit question, I watched this show once....what the fuck is going on?

the show I saw some bitch kept saying she couldn't finish some half ass vidya character costume, ends up finishing it.

5'1" Asian woman in her mid 30's walking on stilts and lip-syncs some vidya game cut scene in some wretched Halloween costume

and they do all of this bullshit on stage?

apperantly they all travel and shit and make thousands of dollars doing this horseshit?

so are people fucking paying money to see 30 year old women children dress like vidya characters?

why is this a show?!

[Anonymous No.7657174]

>>7657019
Are you joking? So much work goes into CM jobs at gaming companies. Have you never heard of Seth Killian?

[Anonymous No.7657182]

>>7657101
it sounds like you don't into cosplay

[Anonymous No.7657184]

Can I get a TL:DR about what happened before she flipped her shit? I stopped watching Heroes of Cosplay somewhere around episode 3 of season 2, and I never really gave a shit about any of them on Tumblr/FB. So I have no clue about what is going on.

[Anonymous No.7657201]

>>7657044
>you were expected to be in the office at 8am on Xmas day,

Seems like the sort of job you can do at home.

[Anonymous No.7657209]

>>7657019
>does it for free?

[Anonymous No.7657211]

>>7657174
>Seth Killian

no idea

[Anonymous No.7657227]

it's a hard life fool

[Anonymous No.7657267]

but did Chloe cry?

[Anonymous No.7657269]

People expose themselves and expect everyone to love them... They know how internet works, I don't understand why internet drama affects them. If you're not prepared, then don't expose yourself

[Anonymous No.7657301]

>>7657267
CHLOE CRIED FOR THEIR SINS

[R.D. !!73iCscAAWq1 No.7657318]

Both sides should calm the fuck down man. It's becoming ridiculous.

I am literally so done with reading sob-stories from each side.
"Booo my kid has autism!"
"BUT MY MOM HAD CANCER!"
"Yaya Han was unfriendly to me, I am so upset!"
Really, y'all need a good cup of STFU.

It's reality TV we all know that its basically lying cheating crap but
a) this crap is hella entertaining if you're not involved
b) the ones who should take the blame are not necessarily the ones whose faces we see in it.
D'uh.

Yeah, many things sucked about HoC and maybe the people in it suck too. On the other hand, I was quite entertained and so were many people.

Attacking the cast members won't do shit. Crying to the high heavens cause people are too dumb to realize they got the wrong ones cornered won't help either.

Pissed off about the show? Write the goddamn producers or the convention whose contest they probably ruined.
Pissed off about people attacking you for being in the show?
Don't take part in a format like it - and now that shit already hit the fan, keep calm and stay the fuck away on the internet until the mindless crowd finds something else to bawl about but don't put fuel to the fire and yo momma into the discussion. Act like a fucking adult.

[Anonymous No.7657319]

>>7657174
nah. its just capcom thats unique like that and they actually valued what the community has to say for the most part.

most CM for game companies dont mean shit.

[Anonymous No.7657555]

>>7657019
Bioware pays their CM a salary range of $60,000 - $80,000 and they get benefits like health and dental. Not a bad gig except for the fact that you have to work for bioware and Jessica would be your boss. If they hadnt become the champions of the tumblr I would have considered applying for the job opening they had a while back. Pic related. Type of ppl a Bioware CM would have to deal with and what you get when you demand a cookie for every gay character you put into a game because ~so edgy~.

[Anonymous No.7657628]

>>7657019

Bioware CMs get paid 90k/yr

[Anonymous No.7657684]

>>7657555
>>7657628

no wonder games are so expensive.

[Anonymous No.7657685]

>>7657318
Enough with your common sense and good manners!
We don't take kindly toy our types around these here parts.

[Anonymous No.7657703]

>>7657555
>shilling Razer

[Anonymous No.7657783]

>>7657269
>If you're not prepared, then don't expose yourself


and this is why every time I think it would be nice to be known I check myself.

It's MUCH nicer to fly under the radar.

[Anonymous No.7658197]

>>7657783
CHECK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU REK YOURSELF

[Anonymous No.7658209]

>>7657783
CHECK YOSELF BEFORE YOU SHREK YOSELF

[Anonymous No.7658416]

>>7657783
You should always check your privilege.

cosplay is not consent

[Anonymous No.7658507]

>Mom has cancer
>steals money from a former cancer survivor anyway

TOPPEST OF LELS

[Anonymous No.7659244]

>>7658507

[Anonymous No.7659251]

>>7658507
>former cancer survivor

So that's a person who survived having cancer but then died anyway?

[Anonymous No.7659284]

just gonna put this here....

[Anonymous No.7659293]

>>7657319
>capcom
>actually valued what the community has to say for the most part.

I'm glad you used past tense.

[Anonymous No.7660126]

I hope she fucking dies

[Anonymous No.7660733]

>>7660126
> wellthatescalatedquickly.png

[Anonymous No.7660739]

"Sick of traditional cosplay"

Uhm just whaaat I dont know of any of them besides yaya han that started out wearing dumbass costumes for fun before biggu boobie validation costumes. Like I seriously liked Yaya Han when I was younger, that Alichino cosplay was amazing to me and she cosplayed Ruri Hoshino, one of fave characters.
Ugh fuck all these people. I cant wait for this shit to go away. What's next hooters waitresses at the cardshop playing Magic? Wow just fuck off.

[Anonymous No.7661740]

>>7660739
>"Sick of traditional cosplay"

I'd hardly call dressing up as your OC, being Biowares PR bitch dressing up in costumes for them, or dressing up as social media site is "Traditional Cosplay".

[Anonymous No.7662315]

>>7661740
>I'd hardly call dressing up as your OC, being Biowares PR bitch dressing up in costumes for them, or dressing up as social media site is "Traditional Cosplay".
Amen.

[Anonymous No.7662768]

>>7662315
just remembered

>lets be nyan cat, cause you know it relevant in 2013

[Anonymous No.7662857]

>>7662768
I nearly punched my monitor when I saw that bit.

[Anonymous No.7663132]

>>7662857
Well at least they use their company name to warn you of their pubic lice.

>crab puss

[Anonymous No.7663319]

>>7662857
ah, Cats: The Memesical.
Truly a treasure of this decade.

[Anonymous No.7663322]

>>7662857
needs more wool vomit

[Anonymous No.7663427]

LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!

Oh my, sorry! Wrong topic!

[Anonymous No.7664940]

>>7663322
> The darwin award goes to the crabcunt who wore wool for ~8 hours when fully aware of her allergy.

[Anonymous No.7664999]

>>7664940
god that was stupid. then having them shove people away and reveal she's fake vomiting for the show when they were concerned for her

[Anonymous No.7665009]

>>7664999
MAH DRAMA

[Anonymous No.7668165]

I just have nowhere to post this since the show is over and I was away when it happened but with the whole Chloe's dad's lightsaber creation thing, in the original trilogy the lightsabers actually just used a piece of old camera equipment for the base and then they just threw some knobs on it or whatever. So he actually did even less work than anyone would assume. The fact that she brags about it is just even more amusing.

[Anonymous No.7668451]

>>7668165
Yes yes let the hate flow through you.

Even the cool bits of the light saver was an post effect. He did nothing.

>Oh no. Something broke my flower Grant imahara. You are my only hope.

>Bitch be careful with that flower. - Grant

>shit I broke it again.

She needed Grant to hot glue her fucking flower back together.

[Anonymous No.7669039]

>>7663319
to be fair, the Cats musical is shitty, so combining thst idea with memes was really... myeh

[Anonymous No.7669617]

>>7669039
Two wrongs don't make a right.

[Anonymous No.7669631]

>>7668165
As if you wouldn't brag if your dad created the lightsabers for Star Wars. It's not like she specifically said Luke's ANH saber (the one you're referring to) either. All o' them original sabers are iconic, it's a pretty cool thing.


>>7668451
And y'all niggas acting like you don't know how TV fuckin' works!
Dilema>Proposal>Suspense>Result repeat. They have to justify bringing her dad in as a proposal because nobody knows go he is. If they big him up then people think he's a big deal and it makes sense that he's on the show.

In the case of Grant, hey, we have an hour to shoot with a b-list celebrity, let's get as much screen use as possible.
If you thought for a second it wasn't set up then you need your head checked.

There are SO many legitimate issues to take with the show, you shitheads are trying to hop on the bandwagon and end up showing how little you understand.

Sheeeeiiit, 2/10 for making me respond.
>inb4 b8

captcha: called ameews

[Anonymous No.7669638]

>>7669631

Oh look someone who works for the show responded

[Anonymous No.7669649]

>>7669631
Of course I knew it was a setup but lets face it it makes her look like a retard.

Other reality shows do their forced conflict without sacrificing their subjects credibility as much as this show has, so yeah i'm mocking the result, only cause the "heroes" agreed to letting themselves look the fool.

[Anonymous No.7669654]

>>7669638

Ha, I wish!

[Anonymous No.7669662]

>>7669649
It also doesn't help there's hundreds of vocal witnesses to say otherwise. And the cast defending the creative editing is even worse.

[Anonymous No.7669664]

>>7669649
Any examples?

Of the few reality shows I've watched, the drama always comes from either two people conflicting (which reflects badly on one of them) or someone's shortcomings/mistakes.

Sometimes it makes them look retarded, sometimes it makes you sympathise with them, depends on the editor and the person watching.
>Something went wrong
>it's difficult for person X fix
Either you sympathise with X, or they're incompetent, both set that person below the viewer. When they win/pull it together is when X becomes the hero...

What other ways to do reality shows force drama? I'm not trying to be a smartass, but that's the only way I ever see reality shows creating tension.

[Anonymous No.7669681]

>>7669664
>>7669631
Dear person who obviously works for this show,

Why is Chloe allowed to be on this show when she does literally nothing? I watched her use a jig saw machine wearing a bunch of rings and bracelets and I cringed. Can I be on your show considering I don't know how to do anything either?

Love, Anon

[Anonymous No.7669683]

>>7669664

Lets look at the flower example there are 2 ways to spin that.

>Hey Look its my friend grant, he's going to show me how to use servos for my next project. Cool look they move.
>Oh no they broke i gotta call Grant again. Hey i packed up my tools for the flight could I stop by to fix that flower you helped me made.
>I'm busy tonight, but stop by before your flight in the morning we should be able to work it out.

Essentially the same conflict and resolution without sacrificing your subjects credibility.

What they did on TV was unfulfilling, hey we have a problem, its ok we have this guy the lay person watching the show is not going to recognize solve the problem for them, no growth of the character nothing the human can relate too.

This we have a human with a problem, seeking a solution and presumably off camera fixing it herself. Growth of a character, and get to call on a C-lister again.

They are calling them heroes, which gives the impression of grandeur and allure. What they give us is a hero's journey narrative that is not well done therefore unfulfilling.

[Anonymous No.7669781]

>>7669683
Aaah, I get you. I thought that WAS how they spun it. So she just asked him to fix it?
Then you're right, that's her bad.

Unless they had planned the later break and fix she did, but I do believe there is some spontaneity in the show, can't know for sure as I don't work on it, haha.
But that was spun fairly poorly as well, right? Kinda defeatist, like it was all luck?
I don't think they could carry the series without showing the 'heroes' incompetencies, it's the nature of the entertainment (format and subject matter). Sometimes it makes you sympathetic, sometimes it makes them look retarded. That's reality TV

Heroes of cosplay is a really lazy word association. They can't guarantee a decent heroes journey on reality TV, on that I think we're agreed.

[Anonymous No.7669829]

>>7669781
I'd agree in as much as I don't think they need too. What is a bigger conflict then the internal narrative while looking at the other costumes while you wait to get judged.

Tons of good reality TV shows have been based on concepts of low conflicts. Like the pickers or the storage people. Instead of forcing acts of god they just make all their conflict between people, rivalries. There is no human conflict besides the occasional spousal abuse. That doesn't seem too realistic.

Like what if the synthetic wool they bought turned out to be real? Instead of the moronic play though the pain hur dur let's use wool.

The costume contest should be half the show. With confessionals to the heroes during costumes that stand out to them as better or tough competition to them. Now that's suspense build up then release if they win. And more insight to other costumes that beat them.

That's the next problem they use the confessionals all wrong by using them as a summary. They should be using them as an emotional release for the heroes.

[Anonymous No.7669866]

>>7669829
I believe (through other cosplayers I follow) that in season 1 there was more interpersonal rivalry and people hated it. Although I wasn't on /cgl/ then, might have been a different reaction here.
Or are you saying there should be no rivalries? Sorry, I'm not quite sure from the wording.

Referring to other shows, do Syfy make many reality shows? I've seen an episode of Monster man and some FaceOff (which is more of a game show but follows the same formula). Are they relatively new to this or should they have it down?

The recap thing I've noticed as a trend with American TV in general. There are a lot more ad breaks in American shows and so much time is wasted explaining shit to channel surfers.

But really, I think you ought to package up that last bit and send it to syfy because it would make for a far better show.
I started watching in the hope of learning things, as if it was a documentary series, so I was interested in the building. But for what it is that's a much better way of building tension. Still lets the 'heroes' come down to the viewers level, lets the viewer sympathise without the risk of seeming (as) retarded... Bravo

[Anonymous No.7669880]

>>7669631
Why would I need to ride on someone else's "accomplishments"?

[Anonymous No.7669920]

>>7669866
>I believe (through other cosplayers I follow) that in season 1 there was more interpersonal rivalry and people hated it.

The only interpersonal things in the first seawson was YaYa, getting upset by "slutty jessica" trying to corrupt her protege. and crab cunts leaving the chubby girl out of their group show cause they though she was better than her.

People tend to not do a good job figuring out why they don't like something, so the interpersonal conflict is blamed, but the reason is never explored. In the 2 examples i remember there is "a pot calling the kettle black" moment which is obviously bad.

The other one might have actually been good. If that caused the other one to come from behind. What they did instead was have us invest our emotions into the sub plot and not pay it off. Chubby one even started working out on the show they could have spun that at a revenge/rivalry thing against crabcunts. Then ultimately have that pay off when they see her next cosplay and go like damn (pretty woman style).

>Or are you saying there should be no rivalries?
If the show they want to make is a force conflict vanity show yes. Bring in Jessica have her and YaYa duke it out. As long as they remember to keep an emotional arc in mind while they cut they should not try to avoid it, and keep a focus on their craft and not just being bitches.

That being said I personally would prefer a combination learning/showing show. With my idea for the contest taking the second half and the first half being like a how to. or at least learning tools of the trade/ or exploring different aspects of the art of cosplay. With every season following a new group of people.

[Anonymous No.7669949]

>>7669920
Cool, I must go back and watch the first season.

I've picked up one or two things from crabcunts, but my guess is they would lose (or at least they think they would lose) a lot of the more casual viewers if the show went in-depth, technically.

We can dream though...

[Anonymous No.7669959]

>>7669949
Yeah it's pretty bad but in the first season crabcunts where actually the technical instructional group. But incompetence became the shows short hand because of it.

[Anonymous No.7670036]

>>7669920
Yeah, I wish it were more focused on the cosplay and the awesome costumes than the inane, forced drama.

[Anonymous No.7670067]

>>7669959
>Crabcunts where actually the technical instructional group

How are the two chicks who don't know how to use a sewing machine between them the technical instructional group?

[Anonymous No.7670077]

>>7670067
They were the ones who actually tried out new techniques. work through them on camera. They didn't do it well, but i think they did it the most in the first season.

>make a head cast... for a shitty pair of horns

[Anonymous No.7670116]

>>7670067
They were the the technical ones because production wanted them to be. Other than holly then sculpting bullshit creatures, all their skills are most amateur level.

[Anonymous No.7672192]

>Jessica Marzipan @JessicaMerizan 56m

>To clarify, I'm not quitting cosplay. I'm quitting the "community". Next order of business, I'M SO MAKING THIS HNNNG

well that cleared it up

[Anonymous No.7672193]

>OK, so I have to clarify something. I’m not quitting cosplay (although I prefer make believe dress up fun time sprinkles on top, thank you very much). I am quitting the messed up giant blob community. Imma have fun in my corner of the world and you are welcome to join me and the other Crabcateers & Crabkittens <3

>Next order of business. OH MY GOD I AM SO MAKING THIS BATGIRL REBOOT COSTUME HNNNNNG. BARBARA GORDON I WILL BE YOU.

[Anonymous No.7672217]

>>7672193
>she's implying she was ever part of the community
kek

[Anonymous No.7672280]

>>7672193
>dat shitty new batgirl costume on a fatgirl

:(

[Anonymous No.7672298]

Man, this fucking show.

I have to hide my power level among my co-workers. They were just discussing this show and they know that I'm into anime and cosplay culture, but I don't like this show because of the people in it.

So much secondhand embarrassment.

[Anonymous No.7675519]

>>7657174
Except Seth is actually widely liked by the community and has been a legitimate, longtime participant of it.