Cult Party Kei

[Anonymous No.7643006]

I want to make a cult party kei coord for a local upcoming convention. I am really interested in the Japanese interpretation of the fashion. Has anyone else tried this fashion? How did you make your coord interesting, but still a unified look? I feel as if a lot of cult party kei coords I see westerners makers are more fairy kei. I don't want to go that direction. I want to make something more like the picture.

[Anonymous No.7643009]

>>7643006
the one in your picture looks like mori but with pink..

is that what cpk is? I honestly know NOTHING about what this fashion is supposed to look like. I see some people running around with white and red combos, usually involving crosses or something, But then I see things like this that are flowery or something. I genuinely don't understand what the aesthetic is

[Anonymous No.7643013]

I have some pictures saved but that's really all I can give.

Anyone know of any magazines that cater to this style?

[Anonymous No.7643018]

>>7643009
To be honest, It is hard to describe the fashion in words (kind of like otome.) I just know it when I see it. It is kind of a vintage inspired look, with a very shabby chic element to it.

Yes, this is leaning more on the mori girl side of it.

[Anonymous No.7643019]

I find this outfit to be a decent Cult Party kei look. I think the use of red instead of pastels give it more of ancult Party kei feeling.

[Anonymous No.7643025]

I don't wear it but can dump the photos I have.
In general I would avoid using pastels or relying on peignors, since they're overused and end up looking a bit too fairy like in most western coords. Layer and use fabrics with varying thicknesses/textures, not just a bunch of airy, flowy fabrics like chiffon. I think flannel works well, and quilted jackets/bags are always a nice touch.
Moreover, I think one of the issues with western coords are the accessories. A lot of Japanese cpk looks incorporate something kind of creepy, weird, or religious whereas many western coords stick to the basic "cute" accessories.

>>7643009
Mori should have more of a foresty feel, whereas cpk is a softer, sort of "bedroom" feel. The two share a similar aesthetic w/r/t layering, incorporating a lot of light fabric, and handmade pieces, but mori should look less done up and more earthy, imo. For example, you shouldn't wear makeup like this with mori, and those shoes wouldn't be good, either.

[Anonymous No.7643027]

I always see the aesthetic as a "ragdoll"

Honestly I feel like that Western girls have completely taken cpk and made it into something else. Japanese cpk for the most part isn't light and airy like Western cpk is. It has layers, usually heavy ones. There are whites, creams, dusty pinks, reds, dusty blues, etc not just white.

I follow these two blogs for inspo http://cultparty-kei.tumblr.com/ and http://classicdollyandcultparty.tumblr.com/

Also find old pictures of The Virgin Mary and Cult Party shops. The girl in your pic is called Manapyon, her pics (esp older ones) are gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.7643028]

>>7643019
I hate those shoes in this outfit, but otherwise it's decent, yeah.

>>7643018
Ahh, I posted my image too late.

[Anonymous No.7643030]

>>7643027
This. CPK should include thicker, heavier fabrics and involves other colours.
I think the problem is that CPK in the west was popularized by people like >>7643019 and Pastelbat, who basically just turned it into peignors, light/pastel colours, and blushed cheeks.

[Anonymous No.7643037]

>>7643030
The second girl from the right always looks so cute in CPK

[Anonymous No.7643041]

incomplete alchemist makes(made?) CKP accessories.
I have no idea if they are still open though.

[Anonymous No.7643043]

>>7643013
That's not CPK

[Anonymous No.7643045]

>>7643041

[Anonymous No.7643046]

>>7643041
They sell their stuff through The Virgin Mary and Mad Tea Party. The girl behind it is called Yukuti (pic related)

[Anonymous No.7643051]

>>7643046
How old are these girls? I want to dress up while I'm in Japan, but I've also been told by (older) Japanese friends that Harajuku and alt fashions are for the under twenty crowd.

[Anonymous No.7643054]

Op here. How different is dolly kei from cult party? Can I add stuff/elements from dolly kei? It seems the common factor for some of the outfits is Grimoire.

[Anonymous No.7643061]

>>7643051
Mid 20s I think.

>>7643054
Dolly kei can be seen as similar and many things can crossover. e.g. a lot of the Grimoire tights can be used and in old Cult Party shop/ Virgin Mary shop pics they used peach/light oddfellows collars and tassels.

Dolly kei tends to be more fairytale and eastern European influenced with dark and rich jewel like colours and patterns like paisley. Cpk patterns are more like gingham and use things like suffolk puffs and quilting.

[Anonymous No.7643062]

>>7643054
Dolly kei is (generally) darker and relies on different sorts of patterns. It's hard to differentiate the two, since they are similar and some items cross over between the two, but if you look at pictures of them both, I think you can tell the difference. I think accessories are the easiest pieces to use in both.

Pic is pretty standard dolly kei.

[Anonymous No.7643065]

>>7643054
Dolly is more about a porcelain doll look with I guess a dark "arabesque" almost feel to it?
Cult party is to me kind of like a fantastical representation of a maiden on her sick bed, very frumpy and light but with weird motifs and very shabby chic

or something

[Anonymous No.7643070]

I'm interested in this fashion but have no idea how to even start

[Anonymous No.7643073]

>>7643054
Dolly Kei is kind of bohemian with classic, vintage, etc elements. Cult Party can have the antique feel, but usually has sweeter colors and feel.

[Anonymous No.7643078]

>>7643065
so like, the difference between grimms bros fairy tales and disneys versions of those fairy tales?

[Anonymous No.7643086]

>>7643078
pretty on point actually, yeah.

[Anonymous No.7643088]

>>7643070
I think it's best to start by looking at a lot of pictures and curating a folder of inspiration. Then begin slowly thrifting stuff for an outfit, crafting small accessories, etc.
I would really try to have an idea of the outfit you want before you go buying a bunch of stuff, as otherwise you'll likely end up with holes in your wardrobe/an incomplete outfit like me.

[Anonymous No.7643094]

>>7643073
Is cult party just sweet mori?

[Anonymous No.7643103]

>>7643094
I never heard of it described that way, but I think it is more than that. A lot of cult party kei incorporates accessories that I wouldn't picture mori girls wearing such as religious paraphernalia. This may sound weird, but I want to say that cult party kei is also a more rebellious style than mori girl. In other words, you could wear most mori girl coords, and although you would be dressed differently, most people wouldn't notice to much. While if you went out in cult party kei, people would notice you a lot more.

[Anonymous No.7643106]

>>7643103
*too

[Anonymous No.7643107]

>>7643094
No. This was already discussed upthread.

[Anonymous No.7643112]

>>7643107
I love Usagi Kanae, she makes the heavy knitted stuff you see at The Virgin Mary

http://rurumu-usagikanae.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.7643115]

>>7643112
Has anyone been to The Virgin Mary? If so, what sort of price range are the items at?

[Anonymous No.7643119]

>>7643115
I haven't been there but they usually post prices on their twitter

https://twitter.com/virgin_mary_web

If you go to a picture of an item it should say the price somewhere in the description.

[Anonymous No.7643120]

>>7643119
>https://twitter.com/virgin_mary_web
I am sort of disappointed. Definitely could find a lot of the stuff they posted at my local thrift store for 10 times less then what they are asking me to pay for.

[Anonymous No.7643124]

>>7643120
Yeah I know. For the majority their clothes are not worth buying at all. But for rurumu and Incomplete Alchemist where the items are original then I consider. Same with Grimoire. Their clothes are not worth it but their tights and accessories are. I think that is kinda a good thing tbh in these fashions. You don't need to "buy brand" so to speak to have the clothes.

[Anonymous No.7643185]

As far as I know:

Mori: Ethereal, forest-inspired
Natural Kei: "Hobo" style (similar to mori but less ethereal and more village-outside-of-a-forest-esque)
Dolly Kei: Antique, Worldly, Ethnic
Cult Party: Have no idea... all I know is that there's religious paraphenilia and flower crowns.

[Anonymous No.7643191]

>>7643185
Flower crowns are more of a western thing, though. I wouldn't say they were a staple of Japanese CPK.

[Anonymous No.7643192]

>>7643185
To me CPK is just billion layers of vintage bedroom stuff, from the sheer dresses to the creepy handmade dolls.

Apolia would be another popular CPK brand but it got a magical girl theme so it is sometimes more on the Fairy Kei side.
http://aporia0.blog19.fc2.com/

[Anonymous No.7643194]

>>7643185
There isn't really many Japanese cpk outfits that use flower crowns tbh

[Anonymous No.7643557]

I think part of what makes CPK, and to an extent, Dolly & Mori, difficult fashions to just pick up is that they're layered just perfectly to create a lovely outfit, but to someone looking to start buying pieces, it's hard to just look at some photos and dissect what makes up the outfit.

Does anyone make collages for these fashions, or are collages used mostly by the lolita crowd? I'd love to see some examples of what exactly goes into these looks. (Especially since I'm moving from the Southwest to a place with a colder climate at the end of the year and will have to ditch my Gal/Western CPK wardrobe for a large portion of the year due to weather.)

[Anonymous No.7643569]

>>7643557
There is a girl I follow on tumblr that makes polyvore collages of dolly and mori http://thesakuradoll.polyvore.com/ noidea from cpk tho

[Anonymous No.7643570]

>>7643569
I mean *no idea about cpk tho

[Anonymous No.7643752]

>>7643018
i feel like CPK should always have a run-down look to it, a lot of beige with a few touches of whatever color you want to give it a "theme"

>>7643025
i like your definition, its pretty spot on to me