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Lolita General Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:04:41 2014 No.7421195 [DELETED]

Previous Thread >>7412706

>dress buyin'
>print covetin'
>religious bitchin'
>etc

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:16:41 2014 No.7421215

So, I've always wondered about the fit of Angelic Pretty shoes.
For anyone who owes a pair (style doesn't matter) do you think they could fit like .2 ~3cms over their max size of 25cm?
I also have really skinny feet so do you think that would help if I tried to squeeze my annoying long feet into them?

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:19:42 2014 No.7421225

Is non-print Moitie really worth the prices it commands secondhand? I've been unimpressed with some of the print stuff in person. There's a fairly plain JSK that's caught my fancy on a japanese secondhand site but I don't know whether the price is worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:20:41 2014 No.7421230 >>7421215 0.2 or 0.3 cms over? For sure. Having skinny feet will definitely help too. Even someone with wider feet like me could fit into shoes that are a mere 0.2 or 3 cm smaller.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:23:12 2014 No.7421237 >>7421215 their shoes are pretty wide so it doesn't matter if you have skinny feet if your toes are hitting the toe box one anon was kind enough to measure the insole of her ap shoes so maybe look it up in the archives

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:23:41 2014 No.7421236

>>7421215
>>7421230
Oh, but Japanese sizing doesn't represent the actual size of your foot. My feet are about 25.1 cm but that's equal to Japanese 24.5.

>>7421225
Moitie holds it's retail value pretty well, but the plainer pieces that have minor detailing go for a fair bit less than retail secondhand. How much is the JSK you're after and would you mind posting a pic?

Which prints were you unimpressed with? I was really unimpressed with my velveteen Divine Cross, the fabric was quite horrible but I love my other Moitie dresses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:26:11 2014 No.7421243 Why is it always BTSSB the guest at cons? why never AP?

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:37:41 2014 No.7421257

>>7421236
But aren't they? Like in rainedragon's shoe size guide and other's I have read they say they're based on the size of your foot.
Like I can wear Baby's LL shoes fine.
>>7421237
Sometimes it helps because I can lean my skinny feet to the side a bit and they don't hit the toe box of shoes that are a little too small as much.

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:41:11 2014 No.7421262

Hello. I only dress lolita on rare occasions, but I have this concert I will attend where I want to wear lolita. The theme is space and galaxies. Is there any dress or skirt with this theme that is not too rare, so I can have it within a month?

I found one on etsy, but the quality does not seem as good as I'd like for this moment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:43:11 2014 No.7421265 I cannot find it on my FB feed now, but Fanplusfriend is coming out with a Doctor Who inspired print. Shoot me now, it looks decent....

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:44:11 2014 No.7421266
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>>7421236
This one, 22800 yen. I guess if they were to release to new now it'd be about 30k yen? Dear god, every time I look at it I fall in love with the simplicity a little more.

Divine Cross skirt and Alchemy print are the ones I've seen in person, and I didn't really like the quality of either of them. But it generally tends to go that solids have higher quality than prints due to fabric constraints for printing/detailing on solids/whatever so I figured a non-print piece might be more worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:45:41 2014 No.7421268 File: 98 KB, 936x662, 1394484323982.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7421265 Found it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:48:11 2014 No.7421276 >>7421268 WHOAWHOAWHOAWHOA I don't care if /cgl/ hates fandomlita and Fanplusfriend I just fucking love this with all my might

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:48:41 2014 No.7421274 >>7421268 How exactly does that look decent? What an eyesore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:53:41 2014 No.7421287 >>7421268 I"m surprisingly ok with this

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:55:41 2014 No.7421294 >>7421268 This could go either way. I'll reserve judgement for actual stock photos. By which I mean they're gonna fuck it up

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:57:41 2014 No.7421298 >>7421243 Because AP sucks

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 16:59:41 2014 No.7421303 >>7421268 I love the blue skirt. What a shame it's Doctor Who of all things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:09:28 2014 No.7421320 >>7421268 As a long time DW fan.. I can't see the Doctor Who part of it? It looks more London inspired to me..

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:12:29 2014 No.7421328 >>7421268 >>7421274 >>7421276 >>7421287 I love this! Know why? Because everyone who wears this fugly POS will look like a tacky fangirl. I'll gladly stand next to y'all in my MmM any day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:42:58 2014 No.7421389 >>7421268 Let's just hope the actual dress is as lovely as the design >>7421274 Your face is an eyesore

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:42:58 2014 No.7421391 >>7421320 This. That isn't a police box, it's just a red phone box recoloured blue. It's just London.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:45:28 2014 No.7421394 >>7421328 ... And we should care because why? Literally every dress in my wardrobe is brand, but I'd wear the fuck out of this. >>7421320 Yeah, I'm not a Doctor Who fan, so I'm just going to think of this as a London print.

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:47:58 2014 No.7421400

Am I blind or did the coordinate help thread poof?
Anyway, all of my coordinate plans for a convention that happens about a week and a half have fallen through.
This coordinate is boring...any ideas on how to spice it up with a tight budget and so little time?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:48:58 2014 No.7421403 File: 85 KB, 978x624, MSND.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7421400 my phone ate my pic.

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:53:28 2014 No.7421412
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So I won AP's Milky Planet Salopette (lavender) and I just got it in the mail today. This thing fits on my body weird in it.. like.. it's almost too big? (I'm kinda chubby so.. this is weird)

Does anyone else have it and does it fit you weird too?

Also, pictures of cords would be a big plus.. I don't really know how I'm going to dress it up so it looks less.. frumpy?

Thanks for any advice

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 17:55:28 2014 No.7421414

>>7421403
Looks elegant! Since you're short on time, maybe you could try to find some rings or earrings that match something in the print - maybe the butterflies, since it's spring and that stuff is likely to be in shops - or you could work out some elaborate makeup?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:15:49 2014 No.7421448 >>7421412 Post a pic of the way it fits so we can see what is going on. Is it pulled down far enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:29:48 2014 No.7421483 So what are everyone's thoughts on AP shutting down their international site? I'm not sure if it'll make getting new releases easier or harder.

>>	itaqueen !!60RF7p3/Emf Mon Mar 10 18:41:18 2014 No.7421500 >>7421483 they're not closing it permanently, though, just shutting it down temporarily to redo it

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:41:49 2014 No.7421499

>>7421483
I don't know, I think it will make big releases harder to get because we will be also competing with the Japanese market and that will be a large burden on the site.
I see nightmares like the MSND release playing before my eyes.
On the bright side, the international site does not always get all the blouses and ect items. If they do, sometimes they sell out but they still have some on the japan site... I have had to get a SS to get that kind of stuff in the past, so I am happy to just be able to order directly from them without a middle man.

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:47:04 2014 No.7421513

>>7421500
Yes, they are. Go back and read the announcement again. No mention of re-opening, big apology, saying they are renewing the Japanese website to host international customers. Nowhere on the notice that they put up does it say it's only being closed temp.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:47:05 2014 No.7421511 >>7421500 I didn't read that anywhere

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:48:35 2014 No.7421515

>>7421500
http://japan-shops.com/angelicpretty/news/

Thank you for being a loyal customer of Angelic Pretty English Online Store.

Unfortunately, Angelic Pretty English Online Store will be closed as of 10:00AM on March 24, 2014 (Japan Time)

We are deeply sorry for all the customers for closing down the Angelic Pretty English Site.

We are renewing our Japanese Online Store for International customers.
The Japanese Online Store will be open to International customers in beginning of April 2014.

We will announce again once we know the exact date the Angelic Pretty Japanese Site will be renewed and launched.

For the customers that made an account with our English Site will not be able to use the same account on the new online store.

Please make a new account on the Japanese Site when the renewal is done.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

We greatly appreciate the continuous loyalty and support from everyone.

Thank you,
Angelic Pretty

To me it sounds like they are combining the japan and international site?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:49:04 2014 No.7421518 File: 249 KB, 1165x1331, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7421511

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:57:04 2014 No.7421533 >>7421518 i think they meant they didn't read 'only closing temporarily' part

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 18:59:34 2014 No.7421536

>>7421518

Yikes, so am I going to have to struggle through moon to make a new account? Why the fuck can't everyone just follow Innocent World's model? I don't want to hear any excuses, IW isn't nearly as big as the other brands, and they still manage to have a decent english site for overseas purchases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 19:04:34 2014 No.7421545 >>7421536 From what I read, it sounds like there will be an English version of the site.

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 19:19:04 2014 No.7421570

>>7421536
It looks like that is what they're doing, they're combining both sites, IW has their site options in japanese and french as well, but only Japanese customers can use the cart system.

Does this mean that we'll be competing with Japanese lolis for new releases or are they going to release more on the fully international site?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 19:23:34 2014 No.7421573 >>7421536 If it is only in Japanese, I'm sure someone will make a registering guide. It's not so difficult to register for a Japanese site, don't worry.

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 21:44:58 2014 No.7421862

>>7421570

I kind of read it this way as well.

I hope they upgrade their server and restock a few times though. I kind of peek in on the Japanese site during popular releases, and there are some releases which literally go from *can't click on image *server error *sold out. If it's going to be like this I'm never going to be able to buy anything since it goes straight from server error to sold out.

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 22:00:44 2014 No.7421900

has Japoica changed their email system? Usually when "Japonica Market Purple" emails all your items have been received by them with a message saying may we make a final invoice. But this time I have gotten 3 emails from Purple with no message attached except "update from akiko"

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 22:02:58 2014 No.7421905 >>7421243 Because Baby is a free agent, any con who wants AP has to go through AP USA and the owner is cray cray

Anonymous Mon Mar 10 23:47:59 2014 No.7422160
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Does anyone have suggestions for an elaborate, solid black op/jsk with high quality material?
At the moment buying from Japanese stores would be the most convenient option for me.

I like pic related (by And Romeo) but the fabric is too stiff for my liking...

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 10 23:58:59 2014 No.7422187 >>7422160 I'd recommend Atelier Pierrot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:00:29 2014 No.7422193 >>7422160 Have you tried looking at auctions? Angelic Pretty is surprisingly good at elaborate solid dresses.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:01:29 2014 No.7422198 >>7421262 haenuli little prince dress

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:01:59 2014 No.7422199 >>7422160 Antique Beast Atelier Pierrot Millefleurs/Noirs Enchantlic Enchantilly They all tend to use textured materials and lovely lace. Fabrics like jacquard/brocade, shantung, etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:14:30 2014 No.7422238 >>7422187 >>7422193 >>7422199 Thank you so much!! black dress here I come I've never tried auctions before, it looks rather daunting...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:17:30 2014 No.7422248 >>7421268 Even the belt looks like the initials in this pic... I dislike the red colorway though its an awkward yellow.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:25:30 2014 No.7422273

>>7422238
Not sure what your price range is, but here are some decorative dresses:

http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/174769344
http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d149599464
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e144390260
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m122470795
http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u57985053

Auctions are pretty easy if you use an automatic bidder like From Japan

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:26:00 2014 No.7422280 >>7421900 I thought they used white when everything was ready?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 00:44:09 2014 No.7422335 >>7422273 I guess anything under ¥30,000 is alright for me. Dayum those are some nice dresses, I guess I'll have to do my research on auctions now... Thank you!

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 02:21:00 2014 No.7422486

Normally I don't worry about Bodyline, but if there an order placed today for a con, would it arrive before april 11th? I have two dresses, socks, and a choker all being sent by air mail, so I was just wondering if everyone thinks it may arrive. I live in the midwest of the ol' USA.

I know it generally takes a month, but considering it would need to be here just short of a month, I'm not sure... But I'd really like to wear the pieces around a con!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 03:35:35 2014 No.7422568 >>7421268 I actually think this seems like it could be a nice fandomlita thing.... Fandom and lolita isn't always bad, but usually the print designs just suck is all. Also, the people wearing the outfits can't coord, etc. But this has potential.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 04:22:22 2014 No.7422610 >>7422280 I looked back at my email history and I have gotten them from both white and purple?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 06:50:58 2014 No.7422696 Choices choices. Do I buy this dress straight from the secondhand shop? Or do I go through an SS to avoid UK customs?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 06:59:29 2014 No.7422703 >>7422696 http://decider.skizzers.org/ Why make your own decision when you can let a website do it for you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 07:07:58 2014 No.7422713 >>7422703 Thanks! Guess I'll go with what it told me and get it straight from the shop, it'll be much faster and it's probably only honest to pay customs once in a while

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 09:46:14 2014 No.7422844
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Thoughts on JetJs newest print?

It's the ugliest thing I've ever seen. I wonder why they even come up an atrocity like this when there were still plenty of good designs from the latest GLB to chose from.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 09:47:15 2014 No.7422845 File: 69 KB, 240x320, 172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7422844 close up of the print

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 09:56:44 2014 No.7422856 >>7422844 Never mind the (lousy) print, what the fuck is going on with that bodice? JetJ has really bombed recently

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 09:58:14 2014 No.7422859 >>7422844 Absolutely disgusting >that unflattering shade of peach/orange >that tube bodice >that badly photoshopped clip-art 0/10 would not wear

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 10:00:14 2014 No.7422860 File: 32 KB, 500x375, tumblr_m9iab3jcdB1qlrqwco1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7422844 >>7422845

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 10:01:14 2014 No.7422862 >>7422844 >Painting dress (again) with a face >Pleats I mean it's very clear they didn't think this one through at all but oh my god

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 10:06:44 2014 No.7422865 >>7422198 Thank you, I found about it soon after I posted my message. I have a couple of questions on how to coord it, but I'll ask in a coord thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 10:07:44 2014 No.7422867 >>7422844 There are plenty of beautiful things from past GLB that they never even made. This dress is just beyond awful.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 10:49:05 2014 No.7422898

>>7422486
It's hard to say. I live in the southeast, and most of the time it takes about almost exactly a month for my stuff to get here via air mail, but I have had one time when my stuff got here a few days earlier. But then again I've also had a few times when it took a few days longer than exactly a month to arrive. It's kind of a gamble, I guess, so I can't really say for sure that your stuff will arrive on time. If you haven't placed the order yet, I'd say to go with EMS just to be sure, even though it's a fuckton more expensive. Either way, best of luck anon! I hope it'll work out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 13:48:25 2014 No.7423095 >>7422898 Thanks! I already chose airmail, but I won't be too upset if it doesn't arrive before the con. I just hope it does!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 14:02:25 2014 No.7423108 >>7422844 Hideous and sure to be massively overpriced like most of their shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 14:35:25 2014 No.7423140 >>7422238 > auctions are daunting nah, literally email the person (shopping service) what you want, and they do it all.. you just do a few emails back and forth with them, do some paypal, and it should be all good

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 14:38:25 2014 No.7423144 File: 25 KB, 400x499, 84989045.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7422844 I bet they put this out there just to see which ass kissing bimbos buy their hideous shit. I bet they laugh thinking about it as they count their yens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 15:07:55 2014 No.7423170 >>7422844 I will usually defend J et J and I don't think they've gone downhill/jumped the shark (I bought two of their releases this season) but this… is fucking atrocious in all respects.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 16:44:15 2014 No.7423320 File: 68 KB, 600x600, hime-gyaru-royal-brown.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone know where to find these pearls I see on headbows alot? Or what keywords to search for, just searching for pearls doen't help.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 17:15:44 2014 No.7423377 >>7422844 I'm sad. I waited thinking I'd get a JetJ spring dress but I don't want to look like a peach. This is unfortunate and except for the pleats, the construction details are not exciting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 17:17:14 2014 No.7423381 >>7423320 Search 'pearl chain by the foot' then refine by size. These are maybe 4-6mm?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 17:25:14 2014 No.7423395 >>7423381 That worked perfectly, thanks.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 17:43:45 2014 No.7423427

Does anyone know of a lolita brand called Simple? There's a JSK for sale on FB I liked, and I wanted to check out the brand. The seller says the brand is called 'Simple'. I think they might be polish as the seller lists the original price in Polish Zloty.

I've tried google, but 'simple' is too common a word and i'm getting nowhere. I checked the indie list and saw nothing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 17:50:44 2014 No.7423444 >>7422844 I don't even feel like they're a lolita brand anymore. Jane Marple and ETC seem to be more lolita than them in some ways even.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 20:02:23 2014 No.7423772 >>7422867 Which things were not made?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 20:21:23 2014 No.7423802 >>7421276 Why does /cgl/ hate Fanplusfriend?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 20:22:23 2014 No.7423804 >>7421515 That'd be good news.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 20:40:53 2014 No.7423817

>>7423802

Hit and miss quality. Fabric isn't always what they say it'll be. Shitty customer service. Overpriced for what you get. For the money you'd pay F+F (or just a little bit more) you can get something a lot nicer on Taobao. the only real thing they've got going for them is their classical stuff, which is all replicas anyway. Their prints make Bodyline's shittiest ones look good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 20:41:53 2014 No.7423819 >>7423802 The question is why dont you

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 20:46:53 2014 No.7423825 >>7423802 For the prices, you can also get used brand if you are a diligent shopper. Shipping is regular EMS so as expensive as brand shipping vs the bodyline ten bucks. Their quality is on par with Bodyline's best stuff but more than double the cost.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 21:43:34 2014 No.7423932

>>7423802
Hit or miss quality, even the nicer pieces seem to always have some construction wonkiness which just isn't that great for the price. It's not the worst ever, but there are definitely better alternatives in the same price range if you're willing to look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 21:45:34 2014 No.7423935 I THINK WE NED TO ASK THE REAL QWUESTIONS LIKE WHY DOESNT LACEMARKET ACCEPT BITCOIN OBVIOUS FACIOSM

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 21:46:34 2014 No.7423938 >>7423935 Lacemarket doesn't deal with transactions.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 21:49:35 2014 No.7423949 >>7421412 i'm a short torso chubby/busty-chan and it fit me weird too. i sold it. you could probably get away with wearing a cute cardigan or MILK style fairy kei track jacket.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 21:55:38 2014 No.7423965 File: 32 KB, 495x273, professionallolita.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >wtfamireading.png What the hell is a professional lolita? Who would buy prints of someone wearing lolita?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 21:58:06 2014 No.7423970 >>7423965 This is gross.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 22:16:06 2014 No.7424000 File: 359 KB, 660x990, SP00143_02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7423817 That's too bad, I really think they had nice blouses and I kinda fell in love with this skirt.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 22:57:37 2014 No.7424071

>>7423320
Searching for "rosary chain" gets good results, you can find it on Etsy and various other places.

Though honestly it's not difficult to make on your own, just time consuming. It's easy enough with short eyepins and beads of your choice. I made a bunch for a couple of necklaces recently, and it wasn't too bad (though your hands start to hurt from the pliers after a while).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:01:36 2014 No.7424078 >>7423965 I can see this working if you have a big diverse closet, a really nice house/access to a location, and you're really attractive. Otherwise, it's a waste of everyone's time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:02:36 2014 No.7424081 >>7424078 >and you're really attractive. She's already failed one of the three.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:04:06 2014 No.7424084 >>7423965 >>7424078 >>7424081 I don't think it can work if all you do is taking pics of yourself. You need a blog and a youtube channel and stuff.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:16:06 2014 No.7424111

>>7423817
>tfw my first lolita dress was a $90 f&f jsk

It was one of their simpler classic/country designs, and the construction is o.k./flattering enough to wear, but the blouse I ordered to match the jsk ended up being horrendous. The way the sleeves were constructed was just... eugh. with this elastic that made them poof out either way too much or just really oddly, and the color was really off from the site in multiple lightings... That was $40 wasted and without any resale value to boot.

Moved on to TaoBao and brand and haven't looked back since.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:20:06 2014 No.7424126 >>7424084 I'd buy lolita prints if they treated it like art (nice coords, good photographer/editing, pretty girl, fitting background, relevant props). But that girl just seemed to want to attention-whore her coords.

Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:20:06 2014 No.7424128

>>7424000
You've decided the blouses are nice...unseen? Hm.
More trusting than I would be, have you read reviews?
That skirt. Overskirt fabric looks questionable in quality and that waist detail is more than a bit off in color harmony with the print. Did you notice that the bottom ruffle edge and hem is just overlocked? Or that the waistband is a bit wide but not boned or supported and so it bunches even on the dress form? Again, please yourself and buy what you like but it would probably be good to check some reviews on specific items you are interested in first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:25:06 2014 No.7424142 >>7424000 For $80+$18 shipping, I really don't think the skirt is up to par.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:29:06 2014 No.7424150 >>7424128 But how can I know if I can trust the reviews? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDM7TrLw_b0

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 11 23:59:36 2014 No.7424230 >>7424111 I don't even Taobao

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 01:12:19 2014 No.7424344
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>>7424150
By reading?

At her blog:
"My only niggle with the construction of the garment is that the fabric at the front with the print on does not match the fabric at the back. I don't think this mismatch was obvious on the stock photos, so I find it a little annoying. It doesn't stop the skirt from being lovely and if you're wearing the bustle then it's not so noticeable anyway."

Read several reviews. No one is going to convince you not to buy from. Them if you want to, we just give our opinions.
Mine is that they are subpar quality for the price and if rather buy gently used brand.
Stop fussing here and go do your research on your purchases. Read reviews and buying guides. That's the only way you will learn.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 01:20:53 2014 No.7424361

>>7424150
Looks like everything she reviews on her blog so far are offbrand/TaoBao or Indie so she probably won't be comparing things to say, Baby or AP quality. Skirt panels not even matching and a floppy bustle would piss me off, especially if I paid that much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 01:32:52 2014 No.7424380 >>7421262 Dunno if you're still interested but the Taobao brand Dark Box did a galaxy print in a few colors. I just saw one for sale secondhand but I can't remember where, sorry

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 02:26:52 2014 No.7424454 About how much fluff would you say a victoriangirldress petti would provide? I have a leg avenue petti that is kind of pathetic for big poof, but will I need to layer that with the new petti?

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 02:33:22 2014 No.7424462

>>7424454
My first one lasted over a year before losing it's poof, and I'd say it was medium-poofy. Are you looking for like, AP-stock-photo poofy or cute-but-I-can-still-get-through-corridors poofy? Because you might need two or three for the former, one is sufficient for the latter.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 02:39:22 2014 No.7424471 >>7424462 I think I'm fine with medium for now. Thank you for replying so quickly! I can always buy another one in the future if I decide I need more poof. Any idea of about how long it will take to et to the USA?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 02:53:52 2014 No.7424485 >>7424471 I just bought my second last Monday and it arrived today. I'm in AZ. Hope that helps!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 03:08:24 2014 No.7424509 >>7424485 Oh, that's fast! Thanks for sharing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 04:10:22 2014 No.7424578 File: 513 KB, 595x842, apblah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you all think of AP's new release? Am I late to the boat or is this as new as I think it is? I think it's boring--cute, but ehh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 04:28:22 2014 No.7424597 >>7424578 That print is such a mess, Looks awful as the site's background too. I love ribbons and such but this is pretty fug. Not a problem though, money saved for another dress!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 04:39:52 2014 No.7424610 >>7424578 I'm pretty sure the original wrapping ribbon wasn't that popular, I wonder why they're re-releasing it? New cuts might help, but still.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 04:54:31 2014 No.7424632

>>7421266
I wouldn't buy it for that price. I've gotten some really cheap Moitie that has been plainer (usually under $100) and it's really nice quality, I just don't think it's worth buying it for that much secondhand when you can get lots of other Moitie for much cheaper

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 05:00:01 2014 No.7424635 >>7424578 earlier today: >let's check the AP site! >OHGODMYEYES I seriously wasn't expecting that background

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 05:19:01 2014 No.7424648 >>7424578 >the first 2 NEED that third one though hot fucking mess

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 05:38:50 2014 No.7424658 >>7424635 I done like ANY of the colorways! Blech!

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 05:59:23 2014 No.7424667

Can't wait until the Lost In Sea bubble bursts. There's gonna be so many people who get the dress, can't fit it properly/have no idea how to co-ord it, put it away, then eventually sell it. Then there'll be a bunch of the things sloshing about secondhand but NWT and I can have one for cheap.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 06:31:53 2014 No.7424682 >>7424578 I've always liked wrapping ribbon, so I'm really happy to see it come out again. I especially like the how toned down the ribbons are on the lavender and pink!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 06:38:53 2014 No.7424688 >>7424658 I didn't like ANY of the wrapping ribbon release AP has ever done to date. But if they keep re-releasing it, then I guess somewhere there must be groups of lolitas who really like it?

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 06:39:23 2014 No.7424689

>>7424667
Apparently 500 were ordered this time which means that there are probably 700 or so Lost in Sea dresses. That makes me sad as I don't want everyone to have the same dress, I don't think any other piece has been made that many times (aside from gross F+F and Bodyline stuff). I hope they don't do yet another rerelease after this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 06:40:53 2014 No.7424691 >>7424578 that turquoise and periwinkle is adorable! the other too are pretty gross, especially the pink.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 06:45:23 2014 No.7424698 >>7424689 >weh I can't scalp it now

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 07:00:23 2014 No.7424714 >>7424667 Might be sooner than later, friend. I have the aqua set and can't decide how the fuck to coordinate. I've already worn the navy blue one several times, but that aqua. I have nothing outside of the set items that matches that shade.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 07:00:53 2014 No.7424716 >>7423965 >professional lolita Isn't that called being a model?

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 08:11:48 2014 No.7424764

>>7424698
I don't want to sell it, I love it. I just hope I don't get sick of it from seeing it worn many times in shitty outfits. I don't scalp anyway, I'd rather sell something really quickly and lose a bit than scalp. The most profit I've ever made was about $40. I've probably lost well over $1000 in reselling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 09:47:40 2014 No.7424840 >>7424689 Fuckers need to release chant. Someone on tumblr said Krad's not even sure if they will, and it'd be 2015 at the earliest if they did. That print's getting harder and harder to get hard of now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 10:02:10 2014 No.7424861 >>7424840 They said on weibo they can't do a Mozarabic Chant rerelease this year, they want to do some more new prints.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 10:20:10 2014 No.7424877 >>7424861 >they want to do some more new prints Then why the hell did they re-release Jellyfish so many damn times? I could care less if all the Jelly dresses vanished in a fire, but gdi I want MC in my desired cut/color/size that I can never find

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 10:41:10 2014 No.7424897 >>7424764 >other people don't deserve my beautiful dress! ok anon lol

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 10:55:10 2014 No.7424914 >>7424897 700 dresses is plenty to go around, anon

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 11:15:11 2014 No.7424930
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My wristcuffs are too big on me.
What do, anons.
Should I just resew the button so that it can be tightened more around my wrist?
Or just leave it? (It doesn`t fall right off my hand)

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 11:25:40 2014 No.7424937 >>7424930 Dude, how big are those wristcuffs? Or are you just really teeny tiny? At any rate, tighten them up.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 11:27:10 2014 No.7424942

>>7424861

I know, hence the 'and it'd be 2015 at the earliest if they did'. I'm just being selfish brat because I fucking adore that print in every colour. It appears to be a sort after print as well, so I can't see why a rerelease wouldn't be a good idea later on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 11:28:10 2014 No.7424943 >>7424930 How does that NOT fall off your hand?!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 11:31:10 2014 No.7424948 >>7424930 You sure they're wrist cuffs and not garters? It looks silly as it is, so lighten it up.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 11:58:40 2014 No.7424984

>>7424937
My wrist has a circumference of 5.5in and the wristcuff is 8in.
So I guess my wrists are just teeny tiny.

>>7424943
I don't know, lol.
My hand slides pretty easily into it though.

>>7424948
I'm sure, they were sold as wristcuffs and the chick in the stock pictures wore them like that.
How do I tighten it? Just resewing the button should be ok right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 12:11:10 2014 No.7424999 File: 328 KB, 557x803, 756453_original.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there such thing as a bonnet that is less than $40? I just want a nice black bonnet to go with my gothic coord...

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 12:20:40 2014 No.7425012 >>7424877 >I could care less if all the Jelly dresses vanished in a fire But that means you would care

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 12:21:10 2014 No.7425013 >>7424984 Nah, your "wristcuffs" are actually probably sock toppers or made for someone plus size. 5.5" does mean you have smallish wrists, but who the fuck has 8" ones?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 12:26:10 2014 No.7425017 File: 193 KB, 600x906, RSS0011-12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7425013 B-but anon, the stock pictures. ;_; It does look a bit big on her though still.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 12:29:10 2014 No.7425026 >>7425017 wat r you doin r-series. Those are too big on that model. I can understand erring on the side of bigness but still, make them a bit smaller for your photoshoot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 13:43:06 2014 No.7425126 File: 31 KB, 387x580, 1394646214744.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7424999 Infanta has pretty inexpensive bonnets. I didn't see an all black one but their purple/black one could work.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 14:01:06 2014 No.7425142 >>7423427 Yes, it's a normalfag clothing store in Poland, their quality is generally low and their stuff is overpriced. They are just like Zara or something.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 14:33:06 2014 No.7425197

>>7424344
>Stop fussing here and go do your research on your purchases. Read reviews and buying guides. That's the only way you will learn.

I thought you could ask questions in this thread. Sorry.

>>7424361
I'd love to buy brand, but all the things I like are either sold out or don't come in my size, especially blouses and tops in general.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 14:51:36 2014 No.7425237

>>7425197
Questions in general are fine. Asking how to trust reviewers is stupid. The same way you trust reviews on any other product, decent research and making sure you have a variety of sources confirming each other.

Also the key to getting first hand brand is to watch sites for releases/reservations. AP can be a little spontaneous, from what I've seen, but Baby/AatP often release stuff on Fridays and tend to have information up on the reservation page at least a week prior.

Innocent World tends to sell more slowly and update more often, so they aren't much of a concern. Just learn the timings of the brands, be vigilant, or learn to shop on the sales comms.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 15:26:36 2014 No.7425334

>>7425237
>Asking how to trust reviewers is stupid.
For you, maybe. For me, I'm new to Lolita and I have no idea what to look out for in a review. So basically, they could say/write anything and I'd believe it and overlook flaws that would be obvious to people who have more experience.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 15:43:47 2014 No.7425376

>>7425334
Are you legit retarded or just peddling it?

>seller was wonderful, replied to all my messages, dress received as listed, couldn't love it more 5/5
>dress arrived with stains that hadn't been mention, seller rude and cannot be contacted for a refund, stitching stretched and waist-ties missing. Am in the process of filing a dispute

Distinguish the reviews motherfucker.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 15:52:19 2014 No.7425397

>>7425376
Yeah, that's pretty obvious... But I never read anything like it when I googled the reviews on fanplusfriend. Maybe I just overlooked them, but aside from some complaints about certain items, nothing that bad.
So yeah, I can distinguish good from bad review if they're that obvious.
I also know to watch out for low quality lace.
Another anon mentioned earlier that overlocked hems aren't that great, so that was helpful.
But then again, the girl in the yt video wasn't mentioning it like it was a bad thing.
Maybe I should rephrase my question: As a beginner, what should I look out for when wanting to purchase off brand items? And yes, I could google that, but I always prefer to hear opinions and also have the possibility to ask questions about it, as in a thread.

>>	Soto Wed Mar 12 19:04:56 2014 No.7425678 File: 342 KB, 1280x960, IMG038.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If I like girls who dress in lolita does that make me a lolicon?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 19:10:33 2014 No.7425687 >>7425678 Are you my ex? He always mistook the two but I never bothered correcting him because we had an inside joke about his apparent lolicon. Still don't know if he was serious or not. Should ask him.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 19:13:04 2014 No.7425695

>>7425397
Fabric quality and construction are usually the two big points that you'll want to look out for. Most reviewers worth their salt will comment on this so it's just a matter of finding the general consensus there.

From there you'll want to see whether or not sizing is accurate, and whether that applies to standard or custom sizing. There are brands I'd trust with something in their standard sizes, but I'd never trust ordering custom from them, not so much vice versa. I'm fairly certain Fanplusfriend has had some particularly hilarious custom sizing mix-ups, but I may be thinking of another brand.

Cheap lace is often a problem, but unless it's high-contrast on the dress ((eg. White on black)), I honestly think that it's less of a concern than the overall fabric quality and construction. That said, avoid cheap lace whenever possible.

Check the sticky for information on taobao offbrands. I'd recommend most of them over F+F if you have the money for a shopping service/to buy through Qutieland (meh) or Clobbaonline.

>>7425678
Nah, you're cool.

Soto Wed Mar 12 19:31:34 2014 No.7425711
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>>7425687
I'm not your ex, but I could be your bf

>>7425695
Is lolita supposed to be simplistic or is it one of those styles where you wear as many chibi cute desu things as you can?
Well, I guess you can say everyone can say everyone has their own lolita style or whatever

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 19:32:33 2014 No.7425713
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I unsure about what my translation of the info about this dress says regarding release. Are they saying that if I were to order it, that it wouldn't be shipped until mid-June or does it mean that the cut-off to order is mid-June?
>http://www.marymagdalene.jp/contents/dress/261/0102/

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 19:34:03 2014 No.7425717 >>7425695 Thanks anon! So you would prefer Clobbaonline over Qutieland?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 19:55:03 2014 No.7425752 >>7424984 I'm a fucking fatty and my wrists aren't even 8 inches. Sock toppers, most definitely.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 20:06:03 2014 No.7425764

In response to f+f, I use them because of certain basic items I need in custom sizing. Their simpler pieces are pretty well made and actually decent quality fabric and lace. Granted, not for the price, but it's not a total rape of my wallet. (I do believe they have a Taobao store...)

Anyway, I have heard of the horrible sizing issues they've had and haven't run into any so far. Their prints are definitely borderline ita but fuck, I'm a sucker for unicorns and that Doctor Who inspired print I'm definitely getting in blue. All in all, they're about 75% good, IMHO.

Sorry for any incoherency; currently nursing my 3rd beer.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 20:11:03 2014 No.7425771

>>7425717
I've typically just gone with Shopping Services out the gate, but for a beginner buyer I'd say Clobba is a pretty good bet. Qutieland tends to overcharge even more and apparently the shipping is atrocious.
Martin is also super chill and helpful, so no complaints about Clobba's customer service from me.

I think Qutieland has a slightly wider selection if nothing Clobba offers catches your eye.

Anonymous Wed Mar 12 20:36:33 2014 No.7425799
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>>7425711
>Is lolita supposed to be simplistic or is it one of those styles where you wear as many chibi cute desu things as you can?
>Well, I guess you can say everyone can say everyone has their own lolita style
pls leave youre embarassing yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 20:43:33 2014 No.7425807 >>7425713 The cutoff reservation date passed, if you want it you'll have to wait until June to purchase one of the leftover stock.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 20:44:33 2014 No.7425812 >>7425771 Thank you, I'll try Clobba.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 12 20:49:03 2014 No.7425820 >>7424861 I can understand why they wouldn't want to redo MC, they already released it twice IIRC

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 04:53:26 2014 No.7426686 >>7425807 Well shit. Thanks though! Where does it say the cutoff date?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 05:01:51 2014 No.7426696 >>7425771 >>7425812 Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but I heard that Clobba/Martin will also act as a SS for stuff he doesn't have.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 05:33:32 2014 No.7426716

>>7425197
Questions are fine, yes but when you ask questions that have subjective answers based on opinions, it's pointless to then argue with people about the opinions they give you.

Also, if you ask common questions that could be answered by reading the info at the LJ EGL comm or any brand ordering guide or article then it's likely people wil just tell you to stop arguing and to look things up and do some research to learn how Lolita things work.
This is an 18+ board so at least basic research skills are assumed. If you fall outside the brand size ranges, Indie designers will often do custom sizing.

If you like fanplusfriend designs then order. But don't expect anything like brand quality in fabric, construction or design.
If Bodyline is the Walmart of Lolita then F+F is likely considered similar.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 05:39:02 2014 No.7426719

>>7425334
The reviews, even if they are well done, will only be as good as what the reviewers have experience with. Is her experience with brand quality or designer clothing or is she comparing things to other off brand, Indie or even Bodyline?
I wouldn't trust this reviewer at all because of the way she considered the flaws of this skirt acceptable. I would not. But again, this is subjective. Something that might bother me might be acceptable to someone else.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 05:50:02 2014 No.7426730

>>7425717
Google clobba vs qutieland and so many articles covering this pop up. Why you think you need personal attention and pinions here on so many questions that that have been discussed in depth and covered well already?
I get it, you are a noob. Do some research. Go join the mentoring group on FB. Read up on the basics.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 05:59:32 2014 No.7426742 >>7426696 On the homepage annoucements if I'm not mistaken, should say something about the ending of reservation for these two items.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 06:00:32 2014 No.7426744 >>7426742 Was meant for >>7426686

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 06:00:32 2014 No.7426745 >>7426730 You not being to EGL lately? We're experiencing a lazy self entitled noob wave at the moment. So long for the non summer months being save...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 06:08:32 2014 No.7426751 >>7426745 I saw that in passing {sigh} I'm surprised people aren't telling them to go google things. Unusual. I don't like it.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 07:08:02 2014 No.7426807

>>7426730
Not noob anon, but has the mentoring group improved lately? Last I heard their advice was sketchy at best and the main mentors had a fair bit of drama behind them. Not sure if I'd recommend that to a newbie that genuinely wants to learn how to the fashion.

We need some sort of FAQ link in the sticky, I think, or to start one and link it in the OP of every general like the Taobao general does. egl can be great, but it can also be a bit outdated and clunky to navigate, so while I think people need to look into things better, I think we could improve on the existing resources. If only as far as visibility goes.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 07:26:03 2014 No.7426829

>>7426807
This is a good idea. A noob FAQ links. Though I have to say the answers to everything noob ITT thread has asked so far are on the first page of a google search. I don't think expecting a little incentive and basic research skills is unreasonable. But that could also be mentioned in the sticky along with some starter links.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 09:06:32 2014 No.7426891

>>7426829

The noobs that are the problem are the ones who wouldn't bother to read the FAQ. Either because they're too fucking stupid, or because they're lazy and expect others to do the work for them. It's a brilliant idea, particularly at addressing out dated resources, but getting people to read the damn thing will be half the struggle. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I think it's brilliant.

And let's not forget the noobs and itas that chose to be that way. They know they need to wear a fucking petticoat, but they won't. They're fighting oppression and don't have to conform to your ideals, elitist scum!

>I don't think expecting a little incentive and basic research skills is unreasonable.

It's not unreasonable. Overly optimistic more like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 09:29:35 2014 No.7426912 >>7426807 >has the mentoring group improved lately? Is it still run but LAELETTE ROMANOV, lifestyle lolita extraordinaire? Then no

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 09:34:05 2014 No.7426920 >>7426912 Smells like jellyfat

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 09:46:05 2014 No.7426930 >>7426920 1. She's average size so I don't know what exactly there is to be jelly of? 2. You missed the fat hate thread by a bit 3. She's a well-known dramacow and crazy bitch, ask any UK loli why she's banned from every comm in the UK.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 11:04:35 2014 No.7427085
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So the leftovers came up for sale on clobba, is this the closest I'm gonna get to Mozarabic Chant? I don't think they would consider releasing MC a third time and it's just getting increasingly difficult to find...

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 11:11:06 2014 No.7427096 >>7427085 >More comp for Mozarabic Chant gdi how many bitches do I have to cut.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 11:37:15 2014 No.7427129

>>7426716
I was looking for answers like this:
>>7426719
If you're in the community longer you likely know more about stuff, for example about reviewers.

>>7426730
>Google clobba vs qutieland and so many articles covering this pop up.
Yeah, articles that contradict each other. So I'm sorry if I annoyed that anon I asked the question which one she'd recommend, but her answer sounded like she'd personally had bad experience with Qutieland.

>>7426745
I'm really not being lazy here, nor has it anything to do with summer... I can also decide I want to try something new in winter.
I've been reading a lot, browsing a lot of stores, there's a lot of conflicting opinions.
I just wanted to discuss them.

>>7426829
>Though I have to say the answers to everything noob ITT thread has asked so far are on the first page of a google search.
Yeah, no.
Doing a google search and asking people for opinions are two different things.

I posted a specific item, I've been reading/watching positive reviews for both the seller and the item, but some anons here said otherwise. So I asked what they look out for in reviews that a beginner could miss out.
So that's SUCH a big deal?

Maybe the wrong thread, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 11:46:45 2014 No.7427144 So glad I preordered mozarabic chant. It's perfect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 11:54:45 2014 No.7427151 >>7427144 So do you get off on gloating or something? That's pretty sad tbh. inb4 one on the anons searching for it. I did like the print, until I saw the derp faces. They totally ruined it for me.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 12:31:45 2014 No.7427215

I will never understand how people identify replicas so easily.
I mean, I get that there's the difference in construction and print quality, but unless it's a fatty-chan in Oojia XL, how can you tell by just a picture or a glance? The only thing I can tell right off the bat is Oojia's ugly green lace used in chess chocolate.
Teach me, anons?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 12:55:46 2014 No.7427260 >>7427215 do you even own brand?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 12:58:45 2014 No.7427267 >>7427215 burnt looking colors, crinkly fabric, weird proportions, terrible sad floppy bows. it's pretty easy to spot.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 12:59:15 2014 No.7427271

>>7427215
>green lace used in chess chocolate
You mean Melty Chocolate, right anon?

I think some replicas, when properly ironed and made in the standard small sizes are harder to spot.
But most people know what dresses are commonly replicated and so can make a quick judgment on that alone by looking at what other items the wearer has on.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:09:45 2014 No.7427300

>>7427215
I've seen some replicas that actually look really good and were difficult for me to tell at first glance. And probably because I don't have the dresses in question or haven't seen them in person to compare. But they were on smaller-sized girls and I had to look up close at the details to see (how the lace was dyed, stitching, and small details with the bows). DOL replicas are easy to spot because they're faded, rough fabric, etc. Some of Oojia's look pretty nice, but usually there's a wonky bow or something iffy. Sometimes you can usually fix the bow by taking it apart and adding interfacing, pressing it and reshaping it properly. Sometimes though they're not even salvageable, like DOL.

Also Oojia's fabric outside chiffon, wrinkles like a bitch and doesn't come out easily even with steaming and re-wrinkles at the blink of an eye. Higher quality fabric keeps it's crispness.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:19:15 2014 No.7427320 >>7427260 No, anon, which is why I'm asking. I've been building up from some indie like Krad, though. >>7427271 Nah, I mean chess chocolate. She uses this olive green lace, it looks weird as hell. >>7427267 >>7427300 Thanks anons, advice noted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:20:15 2014 No.7427327 replicas are probably non-existant in japan., they only exist in the west. why is it that the japanese lolitas can all afford the real thing, while foreigners must buy the fake?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:23:45 2014 No.7427331 >>7427327 Japanese girls have pride, brand loyalty, care about appearances, and aren't hambeasts who want everything now now now for Walmart prices

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:25:45 2014 No.7427337 >>7427327 Because the only Japanese lolitas that we're aware of are people who take it seriously? I imagine there are probably crazies that are 'lolitas on the inside desu~', but we wouldn't hear about them here.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:27:45 2014 No.7427340

>>7427327
I think it's Japanese culture. Western culture is so obsessed with getting things cheaper, spending less money and have little respect for the craftsmanship and work put towards something. Japanese culture cherishes quality work and realizes that spending more means you're getting a good product. It's all about respect and pride.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:29:15 2014 No.7427344 >>7427331 that makes sense. afterall, japan alone buys 50% of all the luxury goods in the world.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:30:45 2014 No.7427346

>>7427327
Japan doesn't really have much of replicas anywhere. People tend to have smaller wardrobes, and go for quality over quantity, which I guess is a big part of why replicas are not such a huge thing over there. This isn't just for lolita, it's for a lot of fashion. Sure there are some replicas, and some companies might have really similar products as there are only so many motifs and styles, but in general, blatant replicas just aren't as common over there. In the west, people seem to want quantity over quality, so replicas are a bigger part of our markets.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:32:15 2014 No.7427350 >>7427340 There's also a huge aspect of pride in the Japanese brands because they're Japanese rather than foreign.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:36:16 2014 No.7427357

>>7427340
>Western culture is so obsessed with getting things cheaper, spending less money and have little respect for the craftsmanship and work put towards something
I don't think this is Western culture so much as Anglophone culture. I lived in France and Italy for a while and in those places, people much preferred to have a small wardrobe full of quality pieces than the huge one filled with stuff that falls apart after a couple of wears that seems to be the norm for a lot of people in the UK, for example.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:37:15 2014 No.7427363 >>7427340 >Western Culture Where does China and Korea fit in that again?

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:39:10 2014 No.7427366

>>7427327
>>7427340
For my (or probably my country's) standards, brand items aren't that expensive, so money is not the reason why I'd buy replicas.
I'd go for a replica if I can't have the original.

I'm also not gonna spend 450$ and up for an item, unless I really really want it (and it's not really worn, personally, I dislike used clothes).

You don't have to be a hambeast to not fit into brand. Some items only go up to a bust circumference of 31 inches, that's just really really small.

If it was available and would fit me, I'd always buy brand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:39:40 2014 No.7427365 >>7427357 I think it's actually just Americans more than anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:52:10 2014 No.7427386 >>7421268 I don't consider this Dr. Who; that's a regular British phonebox. And I would wear the shit out of this dress, holy fuck yes please.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:54:10 2014 No.7427389 >>7426742 Thank you--I found it! What was messing me up was that the name of the dress didn't translate, so I guess I just selectively ignored it. It's disappointing, but I appreciate your help!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:56:10 2014 No.7427394 >>7427327 Because they're a more homogenous population who fit the sizes, brand is a big deal, and they don't have to pay any shipping or customs which makes the price difference between second hand or new brand items vs replicas less.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 13:57:10 2014 No.7427399 Has anybody spotted the re-release Dream Sky OP for sale in Blue or Navy recently? I can find the OP but usually only in Lavender and I just don't really like the color as much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:06:40 2014 No.7427418 >>7427399 I have the blue OP, been thinking about selling it because I don't wear it much. Make me an offer, condition is like new.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:17:40 2014 No.7427431 >>7427394 True, some countries charge ridiculous amounts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:38:10 2014 No.7427462 >>7427350 But aren't most brand dresses manufactured in China? Juliette et Justine is made in Japan but most aren't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:41:10 2014 No.7427467 >>7427462 AP, Baby, JetJ are all confirmed to be manufactured in Japan

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:44:40 2014 No.7427477 >>7427467 As Victorian Maiden, MAry MAgdalene and a lot of IW's products.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:52:40 2014 No.7427495

>>7427215
>>7427300
>I've seen some replicas that actually look really good and were difficult for me to tell at first glance. And probably because I don't have the dresses in question or haven't seen them in person to compare.

The only people who think replicas look good are people who don't know any better. The replica may be better quality than your Walmart sweatpants but compared to brand, they are all just sad.

And yes, people in the know can tell a replica at a glance

>>7427215
>I will never understand how people identify replicas so easily.

Look at even some internet pictures side by side with their replicas. The more you look at them, the more the differences will stand out. The seams don't match up well. The construction is subpar, the details and lace are different, the prints aren't as crisp, often the fabric itself is thinner and cheaper, the linings are thin and bad fabric.

The people who say replicas aren't distinguishable either don't have any brand to compare them to or are just replica chans trying to delude themselves.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:55:10 2014 No.7427501 >>7427462 >>7427467 I think their fabrics are sometimes printed in Thailand or the Philippines. There's a factory in China that makes knits for Baby and AP (they do runoff sales sometimes), and Putumayo also gets quite a lot of runoff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 14:56:40 2014 No.7427503 >>7427365 Nah, it's the UK too, look at Peachie. Princess Replica. Her friends seem fine with it too so...

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:14:40 2014 No.7427539

>>7427129
The reviews thing is just common sense. On a makeup review, if someone is raving about her fabulous new L'Oreal lipstick, does she usually use ELF or Chanel? Very different points of view.

Summertime is when the newfags overrun EGL comm asking noob questions. The conflicts you want to discuss are old news unless there has been some new development. So is fanplusfriend, their prints, their quality, etc. most people don't even pay attention to their new items like they do brand releases, or hadn't you noticed? They are mostly considered a Chinese costume shop.

I get wanting to be relevant but you are doing it wrong. And no it isn't such a big deal but can you imagine how the comms would be if every noob thought their speshul questions deserved personal answers and rehashed years old discussions 'because they were new'?
Lurk more, you'll see what I mean.

/out because until you actually Lolita, your discussion points are still just hearsay and armchair Lolita points of view. Even then if you love f+f, it's not really relevant to main discussions about brands in the fashion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:19:40 2014 No.7427551 File: 181 KB, 490x702, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7427151 Haha, this! I love that blue but the faces plus le cow angel...just no.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:21:10 2014 No.7427558 >>7427462 >>7427467 What about Moitie?

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:25:10 2014 No.7427562
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>>7427551

I remember reading this book, pic related, as a kid where the illustrations became really weird the more you looked into the details. Things looked all right from a distance but the more you looked the more strange creatures in the details you'd find. MC sort of reminds me of that concept.

I'd fucking kill to have this as a print any day, but that's another topic for another thread

Three Feathers btw if you're interested in reading a children's picture book.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:27:40 2014 No.7427564 >>7427558 Moitie is made in Japan as well. Mostly likely why it is a little more costly than some other brands.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:28:41 2014 No.7427567

>>7427495
>The only people who think replicas look good are people who don't know any better.
They may not look as good as brand, but that doesn't mean you have to look bad wearing a replica.
You can also wear brand and still look like shit.

>Look at even some internet pictures side by side with their replicas.
Sure, when you compare them side to side, you'll see the difference.

>The people who say replicas aren't distinguishable
They totally are when you can look at both items back to back, but when you just see some pic of some girl wearing it, it's not always easy to tell right away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:30:10 2014 No.7427574 File: 294 KB, 572x670, g3wfeq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7427551

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:33:10 2014 No.7427579 >>7427539 So, basically, it's wrong to discuss f+f? I didn't bring that topic up, so I didn't realize. I apologize.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:39:10 2014 No.7427589

>>7427567
>that doesn't mean you have to look bad wearing a replica.
Replicas look shitty, period.

>>7427215
Asked how you learn to tell the difference. By comparison.
Once you look at them a bit, yep, it's easy to tell right away in most cases.

Y so defensive of them? Are you a replica-chan?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:41:10 2014 No.7427592 File: 698 KB, 800x800, 1318709939784.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Christ, EGL.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:42:40 2014 No.7427594 >>7427579 No. It's not. But expecting everyone to have a big interest in discussing it in the main thread may not get such a good response. If there's even enough interest, maybe an off brand thread. There's a Bodyline thread so why not?

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:45:40 2014 No.7427596

>Saves every penny for a month
>Spends $350 on brand dress
>Wears it 5 times tops
>Sells it to buy new brand dress
>repeat
If you are a poorfag killing yourself for a dress, you really shouldn't talk about who buys replicas. They at least have more sense than you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:46:40 2014 No.7427597 >>7427562 That is cool, like a MC Escher fairy tale illustration of something. So many cool things to take print inspiration from. Too bad spoonflower is so subpar.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:48:10 2014 No.7427599 >>7427594 Well, I got a few informative responses I could learn from and I never expected anyone to be super interested, I just thought asking wouldn't hurt. And I was wrong. So yeah, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:50:10 2014 No.7427602 >>7427589 I think it's not a problem if someone wears replicas from time to time, as long as it's not just replicas.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:50:40 2014 No.7427604

>>7427596
I wouldn't know. I don't sell my dresses to buy new ones and I don't hang out with replica-chans.

I'd still rather see a poorfag with off brand or one brand dress then replicas. But I'm not going to derail the thread over it. The replica debate is dead but the feelings against them are permanent.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:52:40 2014 No.7427605
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>>7427597

Yeah, plus these illustrators are still alive and quite famous apparently, so I'd wager that we'd run into copyright issues anyways.

http://www.duginart.com/

for more illustration porn.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:53:40 2014 No.7427608 >>7427462 >>7427467 It's not about where it's made, it's about where the company is located. Most Japanese things are made in China, but it's more the pride for the company being a Japanese owned one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:54:10 2014 No.7427610 >>7427602 And it's fine to have that opinion. But most of us don't turn a blind eye to the differences and can easily spot them so I don't agree with downplaying these aspects and pretending its so difficult to tell them apart.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:56:41 2014 No.7427612

>walking down a busy street when it begins to rain hard
>I take out and pop open my umbrella above my head
>I turn to my right and see a woman in lolita
>the rain is drenching her and she looks uncomfortable as she begins to scurry for cover
>I approach her with my umbrella and hand it to her
>"take this. I don't need it." I say
>terror washes over her face as she is forced to take my umbrella
>she begins to squeal in fear of my oppression
>the rape I'm committing against her causes her to stumble backward and she bumps into another man
>she turns around violently to see
>the man excuses himself and says that he's sorry
>the oppression is hitting her from all sides
>other men on the street being to woop like apes and beat their chest
>women begin running and sounding rape whistles
>the rains falls on the girl's face, mixing with her tears as she raises my umbrella above her head
>shivers shoot through my body as I revel in the oppression I am subjecting this woman to
>the men on the street and even a little boy, smile and lick their lips in anticipation of my conquest
>I feel rain drops bounce onto my now erect penis
>I stare at her, chauvinistically expecting nothing in return, and aggravate the rape as I begin to turn away
>"T-thank you." she yelps, in total desperation behind a thousand rainy tears
>I turn back for a moment and smile
>and I tell her, "It was my privilege."

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:56:41 2014 No.7427613 >be me >have $2000 disposable income each month >buy all the new shit >sell none of it >laugh at people for buying replicas

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 15:58:40 2014 No.7427617 >>7427612 lolitas aren't feminist related you fucking assbanana.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 16:00:40 2014 No.7427619

>>7427596
Why do you idiots keep spewing that brand dresses cost $350 or more? I got a black x white BTSSB JSK for about $10. The auction ended for $10 but I was able to cover the other fees by selling the blouse and headbow that was also included in the set. You probably won't believe me, but Mbok and YA have hundreds of nice brand dresses for under $100.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 16:03:10 2014 No.7427626 >>7427613 What do you do for a living?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 16:03:40 2014 No.7427624 >>7427619 >Auction >Second-hand Get out.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:09:05 2014 No.7427656

I posted this on my facebook but I thought it might be good to post here as well to get a couple opinions...

I bought Baby's Alice and the Looking Glass OP in white from someone online. it was modified to fit up to 110cm bust. she sent me photos of the modifications and said they were done by a professional seamstress.
I just got the dress today and while the original fabric of the dress is in almost perfect condition, the modifications are awful. really sloppily done with loose threads everywhere and nothing is surged. they also doubled up some cheap polyester off white chiffon-looking for the modifications which looks really puffy and weird.
there's also damage to the actual modifications.

so essentially... the dress itself is perfect but the modifications are awful and not really as they were described.
the dress is totally salvageable, but I think I'll have to get the mods totally redone.

I only paid $90 + shipping for it as well so I feel like its not really worth complaining.

To also be nit picky, she took about to weeks to ship the dress then took another week to give me the tracking. The dress arrived wrapped in two layers of thick paper, but it was still paper and it ripped open easily.

Should I say something? Or just say fuck it, considering I got it for such a low price?

Even if the modifications were done really well I'd most likely have to take the dress in a lot anyway... (which I sort of knew when I bought it)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:11:05 2014 No.7427660 >>7427656 leave a low feedback describing why

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:13:35 2014 No.7427663

>>7427660
I bought it on the FB sales so I'd probably have to leave feedback on eglfeedback which only has three feedback levels. I don't think it's warranted a negative, and I'm slightly iffy about giving her a neutral.
She was very nice and took photos of the alterations, just not very... revealing ones, apparently.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:16:35 2014 No.7427666 >>7427624 Are you daft?

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:22:36 2014 No.7427677

So my friend is going to Japan for a month or two in April or May and said he'd bring something back for me.
Obviously within reason, and if it's expensive I'd pay him back for it.

Any ideas? I was thinking of having him go to Closet Child, but that's the kind of store I'd rather browse in than ask for a specific item from.
Other than that I was thinking of a Triple Fortune bonnet or maybe some cute tights.

Any ideas/brands?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:25:22 2014 No.7427681 >>7427663 You can't leave feedback on eglfeedback for sales on FB. Some people on FB have feedback on the sales comm or in their photos/notes, if you haven't looked already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:25:52 2014 No.7427683 >>7427677 Swimmer bags, accessories.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:32:52 2014 No.7427694 >>7427681 Ah, ok. I actually haven't bought at all on the fb sales so I didn't know how to leave feedback (obviously when I go to leave her feedback I was going to check and see where and how first haha)

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:32:52 2014 No.7427696 >>7427399 http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d150866596

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 19:53:22 2014 No.7427722 >>7427694 You leave feedback for the fb sales here facederpcom /notes/lolita-sales-in-english/feedback/319783058035566

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 21:03:14 2014 No.7427835 >>7427574 God I love these guys, it's like an old school barbershop quartet. Sometimes when I feel down, I go to my wardrobe and look at this detailing and it always makes me chuckle a bit. Gotta enjoy the small things.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 21:12:15 2014 No.7427850

>>7427579
Honestly, people are just tired of the waves of people in the community who refuse to do any research themselves. I don't personally have a problem with helping people out, but having people ask the same question repeatedly across multiple communities can be... grating. Especially when /cgl/ is typically the domain of veterans of the fashion, a lot of us come here for the relief from the rest of the communities.

...To be honest part of the reason I want a FAQ is so that we can direct people there without having to worry about them not googling things properly.

That all said, if you do ask questions here in the future, beginner or not, I advise against trying to fight back against people bitching you out. I know it sucks being told to google harder, but people get less sympathetic when they see bickering from both sides.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 21:56:14 2014 No.7427918

Cackling madly as I wait for the inevitable ifwinterends post AND the 'period shaming' discussion on the maxipad headdress egl post.

OK whatever periods happen but saying that maxipads shouldn't have a 'dirty' connotation is ridiculous. Dead cells and blood clots are being forced from your body onto them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:03:44 2014 No.7427932 >>7427656 Name and shame?

>>	Soto Thu Mar 13 22:04:15 2014 No.7427935 File: 103 KB, 600x800, shov.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7425799 Go fuck yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:05:45 2014 No.7427941 >>7427918 Dear god, when will this "_____-shaming!" trend end?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:07:45 2014 No.7427947 >>7427941 I really get a kick out of her comments. They are perfect in so many ways. But the period shaming has begun to take off already!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:08:15 2014 No.7427951 >>7427941 Oh and I can only assume it will end when she stops being so... Her. So probably never.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:11:44 2014 No.7427962 >>7427941 Oh I totally misread that as you using the stupid underscores in front of ifwinterend's name for your comment and talking about getting tired of people making fun of her. My bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:15:45 2014 No.7427972 >>7427941 Maybe when you stop opinion-shaming, shitlord

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:20:14 2014 No.7427986 File: 34 KB, 276x278, Keith.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7427918 I look forward to Japanese Bandit Keith posting, as well.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:25:36 2014 No.7427992

>>7427986
Hahahaha

Let's guess some things she'll say

>in JAPAN you don't see girls on the street wearing them
>I personally hate them
>they remind me of maid costumes
>I don't think they are lolita at all
>you know in JAPAN, WHERE I LIVE you never see them for sale at (lists five Japanese stores she frequents)

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:38:07 2014 No.7428011

>>7427656
I would contact the seller privately first but make sure you are within the claim time for paypal. Many sellers will just be glad to resolve and do a partial refund. I don't think it's nitpicking though, item was not as described and also damaged.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:43:36 2014 No.7428018 >>7427992 Doesn't she work in a maid cafe though? Lol.

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:44:07 2014 No.7428021

>>7427605
Yes, I was just musing, I don't advocate art theft. There are really so many copyright free old illustrations though that if spoonflower's fabric was decent or there was another printing source for small lots of yardage, sewists could really make some unique dresses. Brands have to have at least enough mass appeal to sell a reserve that uses a bolt or more so odd designs are more rare.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 22:46:07 2014 No.7428027 >>7427947 I love her comments. I hope winter never ends.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 23:08:37 2014 No.7428067 >>7427850 Start a FAQ-writing thread to sticky about beginner Lolita and lets all contribute and discuss. Seems easy enough.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 13 23:19:37 2014 No.7428085 File: 140 KB, 572x670, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7427574 >>7427835

Anonymous Thu Mar 13 23:35:55 2014 No.7428109

>>7427151
>>7427551
>>7427574
>>7428085
omg it's like you guys were reading my mind this past week or something. I got MC on the first round ... almost two years ago? I remember it was in my closet for my wardrobe post in jan '13

anyway, I had only worn it once, moved, then I decided to wear it recently, did whatever, came home and got undressed and was looking over the skirt making sure nothing had gotten on it, and I had forgotten how fucking derpy all the faces are on it. I sat there and laughed at the stupid wise men and mary and baby jesus' face for a good full min.

>we, da tree wize men bring you HEEERP, DEEERP AND HERPDEEEEEDERP FOR DA BABY JESUSESZ

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 05:28:41 2014 No.7428499 Thoughts on the new Innocent World floral pieces that just went up for reserve? I love them but was not sure if I should reserve now or buy at a later date/get lucky with the oddment pack. Any advice?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 06:33:43 2014 No.7428534 >>7428499 If you really like them, I wouldn't wait. Innocent World stuff can be really hard to find secondhand if you're really set on a certain cut/colour.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 08:11:52 2014 No.7428572

**URGENT!!*
Does ANYONE know where I can buy a pair of "lolita-able" shoes in pink or lavender that I would get in the mail by next Thursday (3/20)??

I have a con next weekend and the shoes I bought were DESTROYED in the mail. I emailed the seller and it's going to take 2 weeks even just to send them back.

Is anyone selling? Do you think BL will have them to me by Thursday? Anything on Amazon?

Please help ;-; my outfit is ruined!!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 09:00:11 2014 No.7428596 >>7428572 Did you check out lace market? There are some pink lolita shoes there. If you're in the US, you're most likely going to be able to get them by next Thursday. If not, maybe check your local shoe store?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 10:45:42 2014 No.7428667 >>7427617 >not enjoying this for what it is. sandy vagina.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 12:15:22 2014 No.7428754 >>7428499 I really like the bodice of the jsk but I don't think it fits with a floral skirt... But I have my eye on the floral clip, simple as it is. The new collab items coordination is awfully cute though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 12:27:22 2014 No.7428776 File: 41 KB, 250x333, jsk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7428499 If only the bust wasn't 90cm on the JSK, I'd get it in a heart beat.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 13:14:39 2014 No.7428813 >>7428776 I'd love this as separate pieces (a bustier + skirt) but not as a JSK.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 13:33:09 2014 No.7428830
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>>7428813
Agreed, I'd like the bustier on it's own to wear with other dresses. It's cute.

Very tempted by the collab set. The blouse is really unique and I'm a big Nakamura fan. I've been giving IW way too much of my money lately, hahah.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 13:42:39 2014 No.7428837 >>7427850 FAQ would be kinda cool. When I google stuff it's kinda like EVERYTHING is super cute and cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 13:45:39 2014 No.7428838 >>7428837 yeah you'll get over that quick

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 13:45:39 2014 No.7428840 >>7428776 >90cm That's unexpected.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 13:46:39 2014 No.7428842 >>7428838 I think that's because people are dishonest. When I google a review they're almost always totally positive and the only comments are:"WOW you look super cute in it!"

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 13:48:09 2014 No.7428846 >>7428830 I can't really tell if I like this shade of blue or not. It looks different on almost every photo.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 14:00:09 2014 No.7428857

>>7428021

Not going to lie, I have a dream of any brand teaming up with them to create incredibly beautiful prints.

I agree with you on spoonflower. I really wish we had a more reliable printer for custom made fabric. I'm just not impressed with the quality of most lolita prints from the west, and I think a lot of it stems from a dearth of custom fabric shops. It's a shame, a lot of unique designs have been made here and I'd love to have 2 or 3 yards to play with.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 14:27:39 2014 No.7428900

>>7428837
I remember that stage.
>>7428842
I watch them and think "Wow, ass-kissing much?" But people get so buttmad over honest concrit and the people giving it are sometimes tactless so...what to do? Is there even any place for honest but fair Lolita concrit?

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 14:41:10 2014 No.7428926

>>7428857
It makes me wonder how often people are cleaning their things. I know some Lady Sloth designs are from Spoonflower and I haven't heard any complaining yet. I find that's bit odd...

I wish smaller indie brands would go with larger custom embroidery like Surface Spell.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 14:52:10 2014 No.7428941
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Speaking of spoonflower, I recently designed a print that seemed to garner a bit of interest in the loli community (pic related), so I'm going to put it up on spoonflower for people to purchase.
However, not owning any lolita clothing myself I have run into a bit of a problem.. proportions/how big the print should be, how far away from the edge etc.
So what I'm asking is, could some lovely loli grab a print skirt of theirs and measure some things for me?
1. the distance between the bottom of the print and the hem of the skirt
2. the height of the print
Thank you!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 15:10:40 2014 No.7428965 >>7428941 It varies. Look at some of these to help you. http://www.spoonflower.com/profiles/aimee

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 15:14:40 2014 No.7428973 File: 266 KB, 900x600, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7428941 I'd go with a different lace on the print. Raschel is considered an Ita type of lace so a print of it is kind of iffy. Try Venise lace instead.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 15:15:40 2014 No.7428976

Does anyone know a good add-on for chrome that will tell me when the AP international site updates tonight? Like the kind that you activate in another tab and it refreshes periodically, then pops up a dialog box and makes a noise when the page changes.
The new Wrapping Ribbon stuff is coming out tonight, and I don't want to be refreshing forever.
Also, if you have a good add-on for filling out form info, I'd appreciate that, too.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 15:44:45 2014 No.7429011

>>7428011
If the dress had been more expensive I definitely would be doing this, but I feel like because I got it for such a steal that for the price I paid, that this quality of alteration makes sense?
But I can also see that I need the seller to understand that she needs to be a little clearer about the quality of the alterations and take more comprehensive photos, otherwise she risks having something like this happen again with a more expensive dress and a less understanding buyer.

So... I think I will send her a small note about it, but I don't think I'll ask for a partial refund at all (unless she offers).

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 15:57:45 2014 No.7429021 >>7428941 IMO... I'd make the skulls quite large but keep the stripes the same and small. You probably want about an inch and a half from the bottom of the print to the bottom of the dress.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 15:59:15 2014 No.7429028 >>7429021 I agree,. but add an extra inch and a half to the bottom for a hem. A lot of the spoonflower prints don't have enough room for a hem and the border ends up being too close to the bottom.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:06:15 2014 No.7429039

Does anyone have any photos of those sack dresses AP has been releasing on a busty girl with a belt?
sorry to be so specific. I was thinking about buying one because they're free in the whole body, technically, but I look bad in sack dresses so I was going to wear a belt. But I'm quite busty and I'm worried it would make the dress look weird or that the dress would get too short or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:09:15 2014 No.7429044 >>7429039 It won't look good

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:09:45 2014 No.7429041 >>7429039 How busty? I have a friend who has a couple, and she's pretty thin with like C cups. She wears them with belts and they look cute. I can't post it, because our comm has a strict rule against posting pics here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:13:15 2014 No.7429045 >>7429039 That fairy kei heaven chick just posted Misty Sky to her tumblr, and it looks derpy as fuck. But she's wearing a peignoir with shorter sleeves than the dress, so that might be distracting me. And you probably have a better figure than her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:19:45 2014 No.7429050 >>7428813 Same, then I'd buy the bodice. I presume the intent of the design is to replicate that look but with ease of wearing. >>7428976 >form addon lazarus is my best friend. Do you not have Chrome autofill, though?

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:20:15 2014 No.7429052

>>7429041
I'm 100cm bust. I'm a bit chub as well as busty but I'm not plus sized.

>>7429045
Wow she looks so... odd. She has really nice legs though...??
Yeah, that outfit doesn't look good on her. But I feel like she's also slouching and the sleeves are too big and poofy on her, so they make her look bigger.
I also can't really tell what the belted peignoir is doing to the dress on her because the whole thing is just a jumble of weird fabric.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:25:15 2014 No.7429057 File: 85 KB, 480x640, 71909557.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck I need this.

Anonymous Fri Mar 14 16:53:16 2014 No.7429092
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>>7428846
Yeah, I hate how they shoop the colors in their stock photos. It makes everything look weird.
I think (hope?) the actual color will be more like the light teal-ish blue in the illustration and the worn photos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:05:15 2014 No.7429193 >>7429045 Pic? I have no clue who you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:10:15 2014 No.7429200 File: 369 KB, 959x901, 1394835051256.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7429193 All you had to do was Google fairy kei heaven.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:22:15 2014 No.7429211 >>7429200 Oh, I see. You made it sound like a description rather than her name. Thanks though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:25:45 2014 No.7429216 >>7429200 Ironically that outfit is not too bad... then I saw its face. Not sure if brolita or just ugly?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:30:45 2014 No.7429228 >>7429039 >>7429044 I don't think it will either. Especially on someone busty. They are supposed to hang straight and floaty, then bell out at the bottom. A belt on that style of dress just makes them bunchy and chops the long dress line in half

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:45:26 2014 No.7429244 >>7429200 Ohh, that girl. Damn, that coord isn't even bad, she's just so unfortunate looking.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:55:02 2014 No.7429260 >>7428900 > Is there even any place for honest but fair Lolita concrit? I think it depends. You can be nice and honest, if the one getting critiziced doesn't get butthurt instantly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:56:05 2014 No.7429261 >>7429092 I was hoping for the opposite, actually. But judging from the headpiece and other dress, I guess it's gonna be more on the teal side,

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 18:58:05 2014 No.7429263 >>7429216 >>7429244 The shoes are off, but I think it looks like she really made the best out of her face. It's just like the exact opposite shape that's considered cute, especially in lolita.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 19:02:05 2014 No.7429270 >>7428572 It would help if you could tell us where you're located and what style of shoe.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 19:16:10 2014 No.7429286 >>7429216 She just makes the stupidest faces for pics.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 19:17:10 2014 No.7429291 >>7428572 if you're really stuck, buy a pair of white shoes and spray paint them? Or buy some flower clips from H&M and decorate them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 19:21:12 2014 No.7429298 >>7429200 Dear god, that outfit isn't even that bad, but she looks like somebody's mom.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 19:22:12 2014 No.7429304 New Thread >>7429299

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 14 19:26:12 2014 No.7429310 >>7425017 They're ugly. Burn them.

Anonymous Sun Mar 16 17:49:30 2014 No.7432842

>>7426891
Outdated resources fucking get me. I was reading GTFOEGL (never been posted there, just browsing), and people are saying noobs should read the memories and the sidebar links... The memories and review links haven't been updated since like 2009 and half of the links in the sidebar categories are broken. I got my information from sites like the lolita handbook but it's not surprising that people who've only seen EGL so far ask repetetive questions.

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