I don't even know where to begin with this... who is this girl and where did she conjure up this crock of shit from? SJWs in lolita thread I suppose.

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Anonymous Wed Feb 12 09:29:55 2014 No.7367866 [DELETED]

I don't even know where to begin with this... who is this girl and where did she conjure up this crock of shit from?

SJWs in lolita thread I suppose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 09:49:56 2014 No.7367883 She's just nuts in general, I searched her tag after you posted this and she harrassed lolita-tips for not "calling out" someone who used the word "jap" (in reference to the language, not the people, and while obviously typing on a phone).

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 09:52:55 2014 No.7367886 This is the first time she's encountered the term brolita? How new is she?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 10:09:56 2014 No.7367909 >>7367883 That's sounds really unnecessary, link? >>7367886 Looking through her tumblr it seems like she's just started wearing lolita? Not that it's any excuse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 13:22:39 2014 No.7368162 Lolita is inspired by victorian era fashion which is the epitome of patriarchal society. This bitch has no idea what she's talking about and is trying too hard to correlate social justice into everything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 13:29:36 2014 No.7368173 >>7367909 If she's new, shouldn't she be minding her coords and her own look instead of already starting to rag on others' business? Are her coords perfect already?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 13:30:36 2014 No.7368175 >>7367866 there is literally a thread for sjw on the front page >>7366778

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:05:50 2014 No.7369014 >>7368175 Old one has reached it's limit. Continuation thread then?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:09:50 2014 No.7369024 >>7369014 please god no. this is so pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:14:51 2014 No.7369044 >>7367909 gettin real tired of newfags thinking they're experts on lolita but it will never stop happening so I will be tired for an eternity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:38:50 2014 No.7369105 >TOTAL DISREGARD FOR CONTEMPORARY WESTERN PATRIARCHAL STANDARDS FOR FEMININITY One more example of "I'm super sjw so everything I like is automatically super sjw as well" mental gymnastics.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 22:54:52 2014 No.7369137 >>7369044 Did you see the 'how to be a lolita, by someone who is not and does not plan to be a lolita' Tumblr post? It even included an ugly Milanoo picture as an example. I had a good laugh.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:01:22 2014 No.7369155 File: 66 KB, 678x802, wank 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7369137 Capped it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:02:52 2014 No.7369159 File: 1.55 MB, 664x1692, wank 2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7369155 I got tired of aligning the pictures so I just copied and pasted the last one lol

Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:45:52 2014 No.7369245
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This one chick was getting onto my friend's ass about using the word "gay" to say something is lame.

"Oh, it's extremely offensive!"

>Mfw she proceeds to say that underage lolis and lolita are basically the same thing RIGHT AFTER saying that.

Fucking hell, man, follow your own goddamn example.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 12 23:53:22 2014 No.7369260 >>7369155 I'm not a lolita either, but I know better than to make a "how to" post about it.. Also how the fuck do you talk about where to get clothes without talking about brands or even Bodyline. H&M my fucking ass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:01:22 2014 No.7369275 File: 70 KB, 500x403, tumblr_mpfal81FNZ1stilsro1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not lolita but this just came up on my dash and I don't even know anymore

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:05:52 2014 No.7369284 >>7369275 Social justice: the god-given right to hurt yourself and then sue the company you threatened to sue for keeping you from hurting yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:09:22 2014 No.7369289 >>7367866 She seems cute. I'd love to get femdommed by her so she can take out her anger and resentment towards the patriarchy on me. Hnng

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:10:53 2014 No.7369292
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This just happened. I lost the gecko girl as a follower and when I checked her page for a passive agressive post she did not disappoint. She said "Is it just mine or is every tumblr block list an equal mix of bigots, spambots, and porn blogs"

So apparently I'm a bigot for pointing out an obvious fact. Homosexuals can be just as cruel as any straight person and they're not above bullying. Trust me. I know from experience. I'm a waitress and one day I had these two boys, clearly boyfriends, and they were mean to me the entire time. Laughing at me and just saying generally stupid comments.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:12:52 2014 No.7369298 >>7369275 Dumb cunt, its for safety reasons. Good god.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:18:22 2014 No.7369309

>>7369292
while i totally agree with your point, it doesn't help your case that you misused the word "cis" by relating it to sexuality.

"cis" simply denotes someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth, it has nothing to do with one's sexuality.

if you had said cishet, maybe her feminist gears wouldn't've been ground as hard

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:19:22 2014 No.7369312

>>7369275
>wanting people with spinal injuries to partake in an activity
>that involves slamming into water at 20-30 mph
Even perfectly healthy people can break limbs or drown doing this shit. If you get smacked the wrong way, it will knock you out cold.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:23:22 2014 No.7369320 >>7369309 Sorry, I don't speak wanker.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:24:22 2014 No.7369324 she mad coz she have a man face

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:26:22 2014 No.7369326 >>7369324 Can't say I blame her. I'm a guy with a girl face.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:31:52 2014 No.7369340 >>7369326 I bet you're adorable though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:33:22 2014 No.7369343 >>7369340 Yep I've gotten that before. But women aren't looking for someone cute/adorable to date or have a relationship. Or did /r9k/ lie to me? Maybe I use that board too much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:41:22 2014 No.7369356 >>7369343 the world that /r9k/ portrays only exists within /r9k/. You would be very surprised by some women, friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:47:52 2014 No.7369372 >>7369343 Maybe anime influenced my tastes too much, but i'm only attracted to feminine or beta males. The less manly the better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:48:22 2014 No.7369375 >>7369343 >using r9k at all "women" isn't some hivemind entity, we all have different tastes.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 00:59:52 2014 No.7369414

>>7369343
There's no way /r9k/ can speak for every woman on Earth, or even women in general. They just like to make up excuses for why they're "forever alone" by stereotyping an entire gender. Stop using that board so much and realize that women have a huge range of preferences. There are probably plenty out there who would be into you so long as you don't come into relationships with the attitude that you're a "beta-male" (or whatever nonsense they are saying these days).

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:05:22 2014 No.7369426

>>7369343
You seriously shouldn't expect a board of lonely men with no love experience whatsoever to tell you what women want.

I posted in there regularly and after a while the mentality starts to get to you. I left the moment I realized I was starting to think like them.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:08:52 2014 No.7369433

This reminds me of how some girl I used to know said that white lolitas are "appropriating" Japanese street fashion and how white people shouldn't try to be "kawaii" because that's a Japanese aesthetic.

She's white. She wanted to be a lolita once and has a dream dress list and she collects "kawaii" stationery so I don't even know where she's coming from. Does she think she's magically exempt from the rules she set? She used to make all these posts on tumblr about how white lolitas are gross and basically openly challenged people to disagree with her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:10:22 2014 No.7369436 >>7369433 there was some japanese girl on tumblr who had some shit storm about using the word 'kawaii' was cultural appropriation dunno if that's who you mean, but she was japanese

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:11:22 2014 No.7369440

>>7369343
This. >>7369372
Except I don't even watch much anime. I like cute babyfaced men, or in the very least men with a sweet/adorable personality. Shy is best.

Get out of /r9k/. I understand where they come from (insecurity, rejection etc can have a pretty powerful effect on you) but their mentality is hateful and disconnected from reality.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:15:22 2014 No.7369446

>>7369436
Oh no, I know which girl you mean and this is a different girl. I mean I definitely agree that using foreign words as accessories is super fucking annoying and I think as a Japanese person she has a right to point out appropriation when she sees it?

The girl I'm talking about uses the word kawaii all the time - she just doesn't think white people should try to look "kawaii" as in wear J-fashion because white westerners in lolita/mori/gyaru are appropriating Japanese street fashion. I don't think she understands her own levels of hypocrisy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:19:52 2014 No.7369453 >>7369433 Ask her why it's okay for Japanese people to appropriate 17-18th century European fashion. >SJWs Not even once. Most thinly veiled 'hate the majority no matter the context' subculture of all time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:25:22 2014 No.7369463 >>7369453 I'm not on speaking terms with her anymore but I hear she continues to spew that "white lolitas are awful" bullshit on her blog despite being white herself and also having had a fucking dream dress list at one point.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:25:52 2014 No.7369464

>>7369446
except true appropriation is taking something that means something from the other culture and disrespecting or disregarding that meaning for your own use. Like the war bonnet thing from native americans... A word can't be appropriated, it only means what it means, it has no significance, it just means cute

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:31:52 2014 No.7369473
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>>7369464
I think using words as accessories as a lot of weebs tend to do comes off disrespectful either way? And you're still taking it out of cultural context while actual Asian Americans get made fun of for their "engrish" or get told to stop talking in their native language.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:43:52 2014 No.7369480

>>7369473
sure, it's annoying and disrespectful, I think your picture is saying exactly what I agree with.

however you can see the difference with the Native American war bonnet which is awarded to people as basically a badge of honor for a great deed vs an american apparel ad using one on a half naked chick to try and sell short shorts

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:43:52 2014 No.7369481 >>7369014 Please do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 01:47:22 2014 No.7369484 >>7369473 White people using Spanish is cultural appropriation. That is priceless.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:05:22 2014 No.7369502 Somebody enlighten me as to what's so wrong with cis white men?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:06:33 2014 No.7369504 >>7369473 Seriously? It's a damn word. Does everything have to the with "history of oppression" now? I'm not a weeb but I sometimes use it for shit and giggles. This picture is silly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:12:03 2014 No.7369507 >>7369484 >>7369504 Tumblr does not understand how language works at all, more at 11.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:38:34 2014 No.7369535
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>>7369484
Last time I checked Spanish was originated from Spain, a country of Yurop, full of white people.

But maybe Spaniards aren't white according to those cunts twisted views on thing ??

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:39:04 2014 No.7369537 >>7369473 >White people using Spanish words is cultural appropriation As someone who grew up in Los Angeles, a city in which over half the population is Hispanic and Spanish is taught in kindergarten, I'm gonna call bullshit on this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:41:04 2014 No.7369540 >>7369502 SJWs just assume they're all bigoted assholes.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:41:34 2014 No.7369539

>>7369535
Anyone who isn't north american, brit or french (and even the french are debatable) is POC.
Anyone from a poor/non-rich country is POC (regardless of the original source of that country's culture).
Only POC can have their culture appropriated, and only white people can appropriate other cultures.

Tumblr is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:44:04 2014 No.7369545 >>7369539 Even German/Scandis aren't white ? Hitler is suffering.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:54:34 2014 No.7369560

>>7369473
>"waters down the meaning of the words"
No, no, no no no no no, that's not how languages work at all. It reinforces the meaning of the word, actually. Much, much more often than not, words have particular connotations and subtleties that are particular to their original language and are not 100% translatable. Even though "cute" and "kawaii" technically have the same meaning they both have their own undertones and implications and particular uses, they evoke different things.

(IMO) If the corresponding word in your language doesn't have the same meaning/implications/etc there's no reason why you shouldn't use the the better alternative in a different language (except maybe if the person you're talking to isn't going to understand).

It's also ridiculous to call it cultural appropriation because almost every language is formed by this process. How does this person think the latin and greek developed into so many different european languages? AND the latin- and greek-based words in english, where do they think they come from?

Polite sage for language nerd rambling.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 02:57:34 2014 No.7369565

>>7369539
What I hate most about tumblr sjw is that they're mostly straight/white/cis women speaking for everyone, and acting like they're the saviors and defenders of all minorities, when they don't know shit about any of the groups they're speaking for.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:00:34 2014 No.7369574

>>7369473
It's cute how they pretend that language works like that. Japanese is full of English words, and English is pretty much bastardized French. I've never met someone who actually gets offended when you randomly use words from their language in a sentence, most think it's cute and kind of funny.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:03:07 2014 No.7369575 >>7369560 I dun goofed on some of my facts here, forgive my sleepy inattentiveness.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:07:05 2014 No.7369584

>>7369574
>>7369560
i'm the anon who brought up the japanese girl saying that 'kawaii' was cultural appropriation. She went on to list that the word 'kawaii' does JUST mean cute, it has toooonnnnsss of specific, cultural specific, japanese conotations that white people 'just don't get or respect' when they use it and it was a hilarious shit storm that followed the post. she also went on to say that people who wear jfash are also appropriating japanese culture and disrespecting everything those fashions stand for

Cadney got in on it too, and lots of 'oh yeah Japan totally isn't racist or appropriative when it comes to fashion, nope! <insert pictures of 'ghetto' and 'latino' fashion movements from japan>

it was hilarious. the girl also had never been to japan and live in CA her whole life or something. Not that that really matters since I guess she had japanese parents, but it's not like she was brought up in a home learning about 'kawaii' and jfashion in respect to their 'natural environments'

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:08:05 2014 No.7369586 >>7369584 >doesn't just mean^

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:12:35 2014 No.7369592 >>7369584 >Cadney got in on it too Of course she did. What an ass licker.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:13:05 2014 No.7369594

>>7369584
i'm not agreeing that the girl had any kind of grounds to say using 'kawaii' is cultural appropriation, but I do agree that the whole 'kawaii culture' thing does have roots in Japan that have certain themes or whatever. I'm thinking specifically in terms of when Rosaire worked at Baby and they told her that foreigners didn't really know what 'kawaii' is in terms of prints and naming prints or something. Which I get, you can look at western art and themes and see it is different than 'kawaii' themes in Japan. but no, I don't agree with it being appropriation since I mean, weebs love that shit BECAUSE of it being Japanese in essence.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:14:05 2014 No.7369595 >>7369592 no I mean Cadney was arguing with the girl

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:24:05 2014 No.7369613

>>7369594
It has to deal with Asian aesthetics. Asians can think a lot of things are cute that's why gurokawa and erokawa exist.
But above that, there are certain colors that are more aesthetically pleasing and how much negative space can be used.

>Naming prints
Rosaire I believe was trying to correct them on the print name on how it was translated.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:33:05 2014 No.7369620 >>7369613 No, the email specifically said that foreigners don't know what kawaii is at all. Nothing to do with print names specifically.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:38:37 2014 No.7369628 >>7369620 >>7369594 Considering how western indie designs tend to come out vs asian ones, can't exactly say they don't have a point...

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:41:07 2014 No.7369633

>>7369584
>it was hilarious. the girl also had never been to japan and live in CA her whole life or something. Not that that really matters since I guess she had japanese parents, but it's not like she was brought up in a home learning about 'kawaii' and jfashion in respect to their 'natural environments'
Honestly, I wouldn't even be surprised if one or all of the mods of that blog turned out to be "transethnic" white weeaboos totally convinced they're Japanese. They spout so much ridiculous, weeby ignorance it's hilarious.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:51:37 2014 No.7369641

>>7369628
>>7369620
>>7369594
Foreigners do know what kawaii is. Just because they can't create kawaii things and emulate its "spirit" (I don't have a better word) doesn't mean they don't recognize kawaii when they see it.

>>7369584
>the girl also had never been to japan and live in CA her whole life or something

That's pretty much what >>7369565 said, I've seen maybe two SJWs who weren't white cis middle class (or even rich) hetero females.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:53:07 2014 No.7369643 >>7369620 One part of their back and forth had to deal with them talking about translated name because it was about the "hounds tooth" and how it was translated to English. And she was basically told by the Japanese staff that doggie sounded cuter.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:57:07 2014 No.7369649

>>7369641
Sure, just like you can be a shit artist or a shit cosplayer but still recognize bad anatomy and a badly styled wig. I agree foreigners can totally recognize the difference between 'cute' and 'kawaii'- that's why we use that word to describe things where 'cute' doesn't suffice.

But that doesn't mean we grasp it enough to emulate it and pass it on, which was the issue with rosaire's spat about it iirc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 03:59:37 2014 No.7369651 What does 'ableism' mean ? What does 'femme' mean ? What does genderqueer mean ? What is a trigger warning ? Sorry I don't speak the tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:00:07 2014 No.7369655 >>7369649 I'm not sure Rosaire's dramu was about what kawaii means. She was just a bitch. IIRC Aoki, who she was already fighting with, disagreed with her on the houndstooth vs puppystooth thing, not all the Japanese staff or anything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:02:07 2014 No.7369659 >>7369651 Me too. All these sexual orientations I don't even. Why do they have to try and be edgy about everything jfc.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:16:10 2014 No.7369667

>>7369565
This.
A few girls from high school I knew are SJW's now.
What they got in common? White, Straight, Female, Middle Class. I don't know if it is a bad combination of wanting to "smash the patriarchy with muh lipstick" and their tremendous amounts of white guilt that do it, but they live off of SJW talk. They need to save the poor POC from oppression while making fun of their own race.

Meanwhile, I'm mixed, female, grew up poor as shit and could care less about the constant Oppression Olympics they play with everyone. I'm for equality across the board on all topics, but not tumblr-SJW style.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:18:40 2014 No.7369669 >>7369655 Throw it all out the window, who cares because rosaire is a bitch. All arguments are invalid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:19:10 2014 No.7369671 >>7369643 Well it does sound cuter

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:26:40 2014 No.7369673

>>7369641
I wasn't saying they didn't. I was just giving an example that the 'kawaii culture' does have a Japanese background to it and brings certain themes and aesthetics to mind, is all. I certainly agree that people can pick it out, specifically because it is different. I am agreeing with you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:45:10 2014 No.7369679 >>7369292 Honestly you deserve being laughed at if you're this fucking stupid.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:54:41 2014 No.7369682

>>7369651
Ableism is the discrimination against disabled people, whether physically or mentally, whether intentionally or unintentionally. Of course, in the case where it's to protect a disabled person from harm, it's stupid as fuck to cry it when people with physical disabilities aren't allowed to do potentially lethal activity x (inb4 ableism), but when it's saying a place is friendly for all disabled people because they have a wheelchair ramp, it's ableism as not all disabled people need a wheelchair ramp.

Femme means feminine.

Genderqueer is an umbrella term for all gender identities outside of male and female.

A trigger warning isn't a Tumblr word and is used in every common media around to note that the content in question is subject to common trauma triggers, such as containing rape, abuse, excessive violence, swearing, pedophilia, self-harm, drug use, suicide.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 04:58:10 2014 No.7369685 >>7369669 Why are you so asspained? While puppystooth does sound "cuter", Rosaire probably didn't really care and didn't honestly believe houndstooth sounds cute. She just wanted to argue.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 05:03:40 2014 No.7369689

>>7369651
"Ableism" is discrimination/prejudice/hate/etc. against physically and mentally disabled or ill people. So calling someone who's bipolar "psycho" would be considered ableist, as would called some in a wheel chair "crippled".
"Femme" is basically just a feminine looking person of any gender, but it's mostly used it relation to lesbian women and agender. Often means "I dress/look girly"; opposite of "butch".
"Genderqueer" means someone who identifies as neither a man or a woman. Sometimes it gets used in a broader sense to mean everyone who doesn't identify with the gender they were assigned at birth.
"Trigger warning" is pretty much something that causes a panic attack or severe distress in someone. It's often used in relation to PTSD; hearing gun fire may cause a flashback to battle for a veteran, driving may cause one for someone who had recently been in a traumatic car wreck, or "sweetheart" may cause a panic attack for someone who was frequently called that by an abusive parent. Mentions or images of anorexia, self-harm, or drug abuse could cause someone in rehab from those issue to want to relapse. Someone exposed to the object of an irrational phobia could have some severe mental affects. Trigger warnings are good to avoid things that can mentally fuck you up, but there's a limit to them. If, for example, seeing a picture of water or hearing it mentioned triggered you because you almost drowned, you really just need therapy. People are gonna talk about water, there's no way for you to avoid that.
A lot of tumblr has misconstrued that to mean "a thing I don't like", though. I legit saw a vegan once tag a plate of General Tso's chicken as "trigger warning: meat". Which makes people devalue trigger warnings and think they're ridiculous, fucking things over for the people with real mental issues. And that, my friend, is ableism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 05:32:40 2014 No.7369711 >>7369685 The pattern is called houndstooth... Let's just let this batty old woman change everything to her standards of cute. Whoever a shit what the standardized name is if it isn't kawayuuuuu

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 05:36:10 2014 No.7369716 >>7369711 ^who gives a shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 06:01:11 2014 No.7369726 >>7367866 She sounds like a neckbeard raging about the term "Gamer Girl"

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 07:25:49 2014 No.7369760 >>7369473 >our native language so, if her native language is japanese, and she really thinks people learning other languages is offensive...why is she speaking/typing english?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:13:15 2014 No.7369823 >>7369682 >gender identities outside of male and female wat

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:14:15 2014 No.7369824 Regarding SJWs calling all male relationships gay - when did it go from writing HarryxSnape fanfics shamefully in private to a political statement. I cannot believe it is anything more than that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:23:45 2014 No.7369832 These human beings are awful. What the fuck Tumblr.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:48:19 2014 No.7369858

>Misha/Michi. She/Her or They/Them pronouns preferred. Sometimes He/Him. Angry Intersectional Feminist. Elementary, Teen Wolf, Cabin Pressure, Hannibal, Feminism, Merlin, Welcome to Night Vale, Attack on Titan, Game of Thrones/A Song of Ice and Fire, Borderlands, Mass Effect Future English teacher. Pansexual. Sex positive, body positive, lgbtqa+ friendly, poly friendly, and sexworker friendly. Hates Steven Moffat and BBC Sherlock. (previously SherlockStilinski and doctor-wholmes)

>Now I really want to figure out a gender neutral/non binary term for lolitas. It would be really great for a lot of people

http://ladysansaholmes.tumblr.com

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:49:19 2014 No.7369860 >>7369824 When being straight male became a bad thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:54:19 2014 No.7369863 >>7369860 Whatever, thank God no tumblr-tier SJW will ever be close to relevant in the historical canon of human thought. Also keep that in mind, makes it easy to ignore them.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:55:49 2014 No.7369865
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>(At a meetup and not sure which term or pronouns to use? Just ask! Politely asking someone which pronouns they prefer is a considerate thing to do, and more people should do it! It’s certainly better than misgendering someone on accident!)
>which pronouns they prefer

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:57:19 2014 No.7369870 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ehrFk-gLk "He", "she" and "it" are the problem. We need to get rid of them because some special people might get offended. >mfw when it's the newspeak

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 09:57:50 2014 No.7369867 >>7369858 >>Now I really want to figure out a gender neutral/non binary term for lolitas. It would be really great for a lot of people >a lot of people lmao maybe like FIVE people

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:05:49 2014 No.7369880 >>7369865 >TX fucking hell, why do we get all the crazies I wonder how these people would do speaking a romantic language where everything is either "male" or "female" would they flip their shit?

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:21:06 2014 No.7369905

>>7369858
>Future English teacher

The fact that so many of these absolutely batshit people want to be teachers is really concerning. I wouldn't want my future children subjected to this crazy.
I can imagine her now trying to teach English with her Tumblr speak.
>oh my gOD CORY i'm cyriNG,!!! ur essay was soooo good, omg,,, did u have any help???? this is AMZINGA for ur age, i juts CAN't

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:24:06 2014 No.7369911 >>7369905 It's either that or they'd be all; >You should've included more references in your paper to ease the reader more into it. Also, please refrain from using non-British terms.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:29:06 2014 No.7369919

>>7369905
As someone who USED to want to be a teacher before I realized I really can't stand teaching people who are stupid/don't want to learn (math tutor than english teacher for awhile) I honestly think most people who want to be teachers who are on tumblr are actually just terrified of the real world and don't like change, so decide to take on a job where they can remain in their 'safe zones' forever.

That and weeaboo's who want to teach English in Japan because they think that's the easiest way of getting to live there (protip: it's really not easy at all.)

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:33:36 2014 No.7369925

Someone that I used to be friends with is becoming more and more SJW minded, and it's the most ridiculous thing. For someone supposedly so concerned with social justice, so much shit she did was completely fucked, at least when I talked to her --
>she has always been really judgmental in person and not accepting of other's problems but demands a huge amount of energy put into her and her problems
>she complains women aren't valued enough for things other than their appearance and how she doesn't idolize women for being pretty but used to literally always wear makeup and make sure she looks pretty and is super vain
>thinks her music tastes of classic rock and now hip hop and minaj &now fkin kpop are superior to everyone else's
>complains about how men are in relationships without having ever been in a serious one
>complains about women being pressured into sex without having ever fucked anyone
>complains how society pressures people to drink/drugs - we live in a liberal college town, friends will smoke you down but no one gives a shit if you don't want to
>complains about society objectifying women and fucking writes fanfics with 14 year old guys getting fucked in them
>talks about how she is 'socially awkward' and 'speshul introvert' etc and writes shit like 'wow I met someone with worse conversation skills than me they said they liked my shirt and I just stared at them waiting for them to continue' and basically makes fun of them for being uncomfortable when the girl they tried to compliment just stares at them with a bitchy face for no reason
>she thinks she is super smart and superior because she likes american history and looking up what surnames mean
>when I knew her she was a virgin and would talk about how it's wrong she was judged for being a virgin at 20 and how society labels her a "prude" although I am basially 100% sure no one has ever said anything like that to her or anyone she knows cares at all
>she thinks dryer sheets are "bourgie" and "pretentious"

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:46:06 2014 No.7369941

>>7369925
>she complains women aren't valued enough for things other than their appearance

She's exagerating there, a smart ugly woman would still be able to make a good career, except if she wants to work on TV or as a model.
Meanwhile there are fugly men everywhere on TV (at least in my country). But thankfully, there isn't ant ugly male models yet. I wish they could be a little more selective and put only the pretty men on screen, just like they take people with pleasant voices for the radio shows.
So yeah, there is slightly more pressure (and discrimination -the word is too strong-) on ugly women than there is on ugly men, but nothing to really be butthurt about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:54:07 2014 No.7369949 Why's /cgl/ so asspained about calling people they or something similar that they prefer instead of he or she?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 10:55:06 2014 No.7369950 >>7369925 >>she thinks dryer sheets are "bourgie" and "pretentious" Show her this webpage and see if she takes her beliefs to their logical conclusion. http://thisiscleanprivilege.tumblr.com

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:07:53 2014 No.7369956
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>>7369919
Teaching English to foreigners is something most lazy fucks strive to do because they think "oh, I've been born in the UK/US/AUS/NZ (although I have yet to see someone understand Kiwis aside from other Kiwis), therefore I can teach".
Some guy wanted to teach English in Finland despite not having a teaching degree, and he said "oh it's different, I'm gonna be a FREELANCE teacher". Fuck me. I had to explain to him that the Finnish educational system is good enough without lazy fucktards wanting to immigrate for freesies and that no one would let you teach here, not only because there are serious requirements and not just anyone can walk in and ask for a job, but also because our English is really good even without having been taught by a fancy foreigner, because a foreigner doesn't know what problems we are having with the language.

Same with translators, "oh I speak conversational Bengali so I'll be a FREELANCER". Translation is something you need serious training for and you can't just literally flip words from one language to another. They have to express the same sentiment as the original. No one is going to hire you and freelancing in most cases is a fancy word for "being unemployed".

Shit, I mad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:08:23 2014 No.7369960 >>7369925 why would dryer sheets be pretentious why would dryer sheets be considered anything but dryer fucking sheets what's next, toasters are for show-offs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:13:09 2014 No.7369963 >>7369960 Underwear is just another form of the patriarchy!

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:13:39 2014 No.7369965

>>7369949
I know you're probably trolling, but I'll try to answer it anyway.
To a good chunk of society, trans people asking to be called he or she, relative to their gender, is seen as a joke. "If you're a he, then I'm a unicorn!"
Saying your pronouns are things like bun or click or whrr makes it seem like a joke, which is probably pretty hurtful to people that actually struggle to have their friends and family accept and use pronouns opposite to what they're used to. Those are not pronouns. They do not, cannot, serve the function of pronouns. They are not gender related, not even neutral.
No one outside of the mentally ill is going to honestly think their gender is a rabbit or a robot, and ask to be addressed using such terms. A rabbit is not a gender. A rabbit has a gender.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:23:39 2014 No.7369979 >>7369682 why not just say feminine/effeminate then? why 'femme'?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:25:09 2014 No.7369982 >>7369979 Random misused french to look smart.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:29:39 2014 No.7369985

>>7369865
I don't think having a genderqueer name for lolita is really neccesary, but I'm glad people within the sjw community are talking against what the OP girl said about 'brolita' being sexist or something. I really like having the word 'brolita'. Just like how it's important to have a difference between the words 'crossdresser' and 'transwoman'.
Asking pronoun preferences is tricky, since it implies you can already tell they're not cis. I figure just go whatever they seem to be going for. But then you get tomboys who scream about not being able to wear baggy jeans without surrendering their gender. Ugh. Just wait for a friend of theirs to introduce them, I guess. And if you know them well enough to speak of them in pronouns, you should know their name, which helps. As long as it isn't a unisex name. (Curse you Sams, Alexes, and Sydneys!)

With lolita I'd say always use female until they ask you not to. I can't imagine how discouraging it'd be to be a transwoman so thoroughly decked in femininity to still be called 'him'. Or to be a cisgirl called 'him'! I've seen that in stories here. Ouch.
And it sounds like it be a compliment for a brolita, that he fits the feminine style so well that you'd mistake him for a girl.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:34:09 2014 No.7369997

>>7369985
People aren't porcelain.
As an adult, you should be able to accept being called an he instead of having other people walking on eggs around you and being unsure on how to adress you to not hurt your supposed delicate little self...

I feel like people nowadays are hysterical, and would commit suicide at the first insult.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:38:39 2014 No.7370001 >>7369985 >I don't think having a genderqueer name for lolita is really neccesary Genderqueer is made up tumblr bullshit anyways. >>7369997 I agree 100%

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:53:39 2014 No.7370017

>>7369997
Oh, I certainly don't imply that it's ok to get up in arms over someone mislabeling you who then agrees to call you whatever. I included the tomboy thing since I dislike confrontation. I'll leave it to the stronger willed to snap back at her, 'settle down, princess.'
I don't work at guessing pronouns just because I want to avoid confrontation and not even because I think everyone is supposed to do the same. I just want someone who already gets a lot of shit not have one more person who reminds them that they're different. It puts them in a spot that they have to wonder if you'd think they're a freak of nature and bring out the lynch mob, or if they should correct you.
These people want to be seen as men and women, not transmen and transwomen. Heck, if I never specifically ask I give myself the opportunity to see them as men and women, since without the confirmation I can wonder, but conclude that they're just feminine men and masculine women.
I like making life easier for other people because it makes me happy. Not everyone should have to put in the effort I do, though. All the thinking I do would be exhausting and unnatural for someone who didn't care.

Though I'll srand by calling all lolitas feminine pronouns until otherwise instructed, since that just reduces a step and makes things easier. No guessing involved.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:58:27 2014 No.7370021

The worst part of all these people getting uppity over being called the "wrong pronoun" is that my boyfriend regularly is called a she from behind because he has long wavy hair that looks really feminine, and he weighs like 100lbs, it's even worse when we're together because he's shorter than me, but he doesn't get offended and infact laughs it off, why? Because when people care so much about what someone mistakenly calls you it shows that they're just trying to be offended on purpose and make a statement about how ignorant people are for their already learned views of gender. It's the same kind of people that feel anything less than androgyny is discriminating but still seem to lock in gender roles. These people who get pissy about inane shit like being 'misgendered' accidentally don't actually really understand the important aspects of creating understanding, and they're the ones who make a mockery of the whole thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 11:59:57 2014 No.7370023 >>7369155 Thank you anon. It'd been deleted by the time I first saw the link to it.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:03:57 2014 No.7370028

>>7370017
>These people want to be seen as men and women, not transmen and transwomen.

The worst part of that is, no, a lot of them don't. A lot of them get up in arms over it not because it bothers them, but because they're trying to be special snowflakes about it.

>Though I'll srand by calling all lolitas feminine pronouns until otherwise instructed

I hope you realize that doing that may hurt peoples' feelings anyways, a man who just wants to wear lolita might be bothered if you do that, no matter whether you think they must be comfortable enough with their masculinity to wear a dress or not. Looking at gender stereotypes ie, dresses isn't the best way to go.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:09:27 2014 No.7370035

>>7370021
When I was a little girl and a young teen, I was mistaken for a little boy all the fucking time, because my mom had my hair cropped short, , I was tall and I have always had a sharp face and big eyebrows.

It was sort of humiliating, but if as a young impressionable child, I was able to brush it off, surely a trans adult could too.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:18:28 2014 No.7370041

>>7370035
See, it would be a bit embarrassing or disheartening for you as a child, especially if you were taught that gender is your identity, and most of us were, but when we grow up we realize that it's not and shouldn't be. Your identity has nothing to do with what's between your legs or what you want between them, it's who you are and how you act towards others, and if you get unreasonably mad over stupid things like 'pronouns' you're giving yourself a bad identity.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:26:57 2014 No.7370044 >>7369925 link to their tumblr? i ask for reasons of general interest, of course~

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:28:27 2014 No.7370045

>>7370041
Well what if she choose to be female (as we have seen from many videos and articles that children as young as 5 can choose their gender) and she was just upset that her mother cut her hair too short and was born out of her will with sharp features?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:29:27 2014 No.7370047 >>7370001 The term genderqueer is older then tumblr.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:32:57 2014 No.7370052

>>7369535
I don't know about SJW but Spanish people tend to be pretty tan skinned compared to your average western European, I never really got the emphasis on race though, I feel like in Europe the country where you were born /are genetically from is more relevant than your "race" (I find it a bit strange to call people white ore black or asian when they differ so much from each other from country to country). But according to them almost nobody's white anyway so...

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:43:13 2014 No.7370058 >>7369982 So it really is? French is my native language and that's always bothered me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:49:43 2014 No.7370062 >>7369865 Never understood why so many ~SJW~ blogs have a donate button. Gets me rustled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:50:13 2014 No.7370064 >>7370062 Because they are lazy fucks, that's why.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:51:13 2014 No.7370066 >>7370052 >But according to them almost nobody's white anyway so... Exactly like pol/

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:53:44 2014 No.7370067

>>7370052
Nah, most SJW's scream about how Italians and Spanish are white and have white privilege. The only area they get grey is with eastern Europeans, because they are not treated equally with the other European countries. (Of course they are quick to add that anywhere outside of europe, eastern europeans have white privilege and all that non sense.)

I need to get off tumblr while I'm still sane. I'm just repeating what I've heard from many blogs.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:54:13 2014 No.7370068

>>7370028
I'm definitely not risking calling a woman in a frilly dress a man to avoid hurting a man who is secure enough in himself to wear frilly dresses in public but not secure enough to be called a girl.
Brolitas risk dirty looks, getting spat on, nasty insults, and getting the shit beat out of them. Me misgendering them is pretty minor compared to that.
A brolita shouldn't be as surprised as a female lolita to be misgendered. Uncomfortable, sure, but not nearly as insulted.

I'm going for path of least insult risk. I can't get it right all the time.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:55:43 2014 No.7370069

One thing that bothered me is when Prince George was about to be born and the Duchess and Duke announced his sex, all the sjws under the sun started whining about how they shouldn't label him and "he should be allowed to choose his own gender". He's a bloody baby, and he just so happens to have a penis, therefore he is male. If it was a girl, they wouldn't say anything because we need more womyn to smash the partiarchy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:59:13 2014 No.7370076 >>7370067 Italian skin is largely white. Spaniards don't have white skin at all, wut. It also depends where in the country you are.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 12:59:43 2014 No.7370074

>>7370058
I always thought it came from the lesbian femme/butch dynamic, only now any straight female SJW can slap the label on themselves if they want to come across different (as they always do). I've heard the term "hard femme" before, which is some kind of edgy fashion style only with super OTT hyper-feminine makeup. Whatever, Tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:06:30 2014 No.7370087 >>7370068 I was saying, why don't you just call someone who looks and sounds like a man a man, and someone who looks and sounds like a woman a woman.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:06:30 2014 No.7370088 File: 56 KB, 463x355, tumblr_mwh5wm1BHX1qmcjxbo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be nord >frozen comes out >nobody cares about the things that are actually wrong with it, only care about WAHHH NO BLACKS >mfw

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:07:00 2014 No.7370091 >>7370087 bECAUSE THAT'S TRANSPHOBIC AND HETERONORMATIVE !!!!!!!!

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:11:30 2014 No.7370096

>>7370045
Then too fucking bad? Why are you adding all of this baggage to a simple statement? That's the problem with people who over-sympathize, they refuse to see people for what they are, a young girl sad that she looks like a boy, and turning her into a nonexistent issue. It's like you people don't understand that over sympathizing is just as bad, if not worse as not sympathizing at all. Treat them like a person, not a fucking issue.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:13:30 2014 No.7370098 >>7370091 I know that people will say this, but >>7370068 is just being such a fucking idiot by defining gender by a dress, a god damn dress. That's the most ignorant thing to do.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:17:00 2014 No.7370103 >>7370100 huur

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:18:30 2014 No.7370104 >>7370098 its not defining gender by a dress its being fucking normal.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:21:30 2014 No.7370107

>>7370091
>>7370087
I'm not even talking about transexuals anymore. There's just always a chance you're wrong, and you just called a 100% cissexual woman a man. Ouch.
I wouldn't call misgendering transphobic. It becomes transphobia when someone calls them sick and disgusting after being corrected.
I just don't want to insult some poor girl by calling her a man-face.
But I suppose it can feel unnatural to call someone with a stronger jaw and some stubble 'her' for some people, even if they're wearing a poofy dress. And that goes back into what I said about not forcing effort if you don't care. I figured it'd make thimgs easier and clearcut, but I guess I just have that perspective since it's a lot easier than what I normally do. But easier for me can still be too much for someone else.

So I'll leave this as: I'd suggest it, but if you don't, it's whatever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:21:30 2014 No.7370108 >>7370067 I don't know, as a Swiss I've encountered both you're white and you're not. They can't even seem to be coherent about their own bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:23:01 2014 No.7370112 >>7369689 THANK YOU. I have legit ED related triggers, so tumblr just really gets on my nerves. Like, I want it to be respected, but tumblr just makes it seem ridiculous and speshul snowflakey.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:24:01 2014 No.7370114 >>7369823 I don't understand this either...someone care to explain?

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:31:32 2014 No.7370123

>>7370107
>There's just always a chance you're wrong, and you just called a 100% cissexual woman a man. Ouch.

No, the point is that it's not ouch it's not a big deal, and people need to stop making it a big deal. The only people who care about it are doing it for the sole purpose of being offended over nothing.

>>7370104
So you're saying gender is defined by clothing? Nope.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:31:32 2014 No.7370124

>>7370112
Likewise, I'm a 'recovered' bulimic and the gifsets with cake batter being mixed or food being broken apart trigger binges and not so often just plain food porn photosets). I'm still incredibly weak when it comes to not giving into to those urges still and for the sake of my wallet, my weight and my teeth in the resulting purge, I really want to avoid doing that. Thankfully they don't show up on my dash much and I've tumblr a bunch of food tags but I feel really dumb asking my friends to tag food because I don't want to come off as a snowflake.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:34:01 2014 No.7370135

>>7370114
I don't entirely get it, just as I'll never really understand what it's like to feel wrong in my own gender and have such a strong desire to transition that the social lash back is worth it.
Non-binary/genderqueer identities mean that they feel uncomfortable in their own gendered bodies, but the solution for them isn't the opposite gender. It's a combination (like androgyny) or neither (???).
I don't really get it, but if they felt terrible about themselves, this makes it better, and they keep to themselves, they can do whatever.
Beyond gender idenity, there are legitimate physical conditions with genital anatomy and hormone levels that make you both/neither gender. That's called intersexuality. I know there's an actress who's got this. I think the mom on Malcom in the Middle? She's got XXY chromosomes.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:34:31 2014 No.7370133

>>7370114
It's just stupid special snowflake bullshit. Mostly all trans people are transitioning from one gender to another, hence the fucking name, but there are a few attention whores who want to be "outside gender" and say they don't have a gender, which is stupid, there are also people who think that gender can just arbitrarily change, "genderqueer", and while it may feel like that for them, they simply have mental disorders.

I find it fascinating that humans have so much free time to worry about this sort of thing and make a big deal over what is basically in their heads. Transgenderism is a legitimate thing, but genderless and genderqueer are not and cannot be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:37:01 2014 No.7370139 >>7370124 Aww, yeah desserts are triggering for me as well, but not pictures of desserts, oddly enough. (only if people are eating them next to me) But tumblr's obsession with the "thigh gap" really gets to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:41:02 2014 No.7370144 >>7370123 If being misgendered isn't a big deal and isn't ouch, why does it matter if I call the boy a girl?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:42:31 2014 No.7370145 >>7370135 >>7370133 Huh, well that's certainly...interesting. How can you not have a gender...?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:49:01 2014 No.7370158 >>7370144 It's not, you're just using really horrible logic as to why you would choose to call everyone female.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:52:31 2014 No.7370161

>>7370145
You can't actually.
>>7370135
Also what you cited has little to do with what gender you are, it's a genetic disorder but the body still functions off of the prominent hormones, I have a friend who has this problem and she just has slight masculinity like small breasts and some body hair that's thicker than most women.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:53:31 2014 No.7370163

Anyone who doesn't have it or hasn't talked to someone who has won't be able to explain it properly. You're just going to get 'it doesn't exist, they're mentally ill' answers.
It's a mental condition, yes. There are lots of 'conditions' that the human brain can be in. It becomes a disorder when it's upsetting and interferes with their functionality in life, whether that means feeding and bathing yourself, holding a job, or holding a conversation. If they're distressed and doing this thing releives that, then great. They figured it out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 13:55:31 2014 No.7370167 >>7370163 It's the sort of mental condition that we need to be fixing, not embracing. Also the only people who even are "genderqueer" are special snowflakes who want to be different and not cis.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:02:01 2014 No.7370185

>>7370114
>>7370133
I know in India, there are the 3rd gender Hijras. Sworn Virgins in Balkans, Fa'afine in Polynesia, but I've only read on the 3rd gender. There is also the capacity for an individual to be born intersex. Individuals who suffer from Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome at birth are among those considered intersex. Anthropologists and Sociologists have apparently been able to find "fourth"/"fifth"/and "some" genders in other societies at least as far back as 1993. Tumblr just makes it all special snowflakey when it's not . It just is, people have been dealing with these things longer than tumblr has existed.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:02:01 2014 No.7370186

>>7370158
A woman shouldn't be insulted to have a manface, but many will be. She shouldn't stare in the mirror, poking her jawline and hiding under makeup, but many would. She shouldn't feel hideous and like no man would like her non feminine looks, but I have heard girls say that and have felt it myself.
I'm all for smashing the gender stereotypes and letting guys wear skirts and girls wear suits, guys knitting and girls working on cars, guys being stay at home dads and girls being CEOs.
But we don't live in an emotional vacuum.
It's a different response to say, 'I stereotype dresses as feminine, and when you go out in a dress you look like a woman.' and 'I stereotype strong jaws and bodyhair as masculine. When you go out in your BODY you like a man.'

The brolita can take off his dress.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:05:01 2014 No.7370187

>>7370133
idk i feel like i don't want to be a man or a woman but i don't have an androgynous body type so even when i skew the way i dress, i still look feminine. inb4 doing it for attention bc i haven't told anyone or put it on my blog or ask people to use special pronouns. its just the way i am and its usually fine if people just call me a girl but its also fine if they want to call me a boy or neither of those. i really wish i could look ambiguous enough where people wouldn't know right away what i was born as. of course this is the only experience i have so i don't know if it's the same as a regular cisgendered person who just wants to be perceived as androgynous.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:07:31 2014 No.7370191

>>7370186
> I have heard girls say that and have felt it myself.

So you were just projecting your own insecurities on others. Does that mean a man wants to be called a woman just because he's wearing a dress? What if he doesn't want to be mistaken for a woman and feels insulted by the fact that he looks feminine, what if he doesn't think it's because he's wearing a dress, you don't know that. Either way, your point was invalid the minute you admitted it was because of your own personal feelings.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:08:31 2014 No.7370197 >>7370167 I don't see how it impairs their ability to function or what would need to be done for treatment. I'm not saying to embrace and encourage, but there's no reason no vilify it either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:12:31 2014 No.7370205 >>7370191 You'd rather insult someone's facial structure than someone's clothing taste? I think you're the one who is overly sensitive.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:15:32 2014 No.7370210

>>7370197
I'm mostly talking about tumblr, which encourages things like otherkin as well. There is a huge difference between people who want to be androgynous and people who think it's cool to not be cis. The percentages of these people are almost negligible, but due to ignorance people spread it around as something that it isn't. Terms like genderqueer and genderless are being used as a fad to make oneself seem more unique, even though most genderqueer or genderless people are suffering and just want to find or define who they are. People fighting for random made up pronouns are not the people who are actually genderqueer/genderless, they're just attention whores who think that people who are suffering actually want those things, when they really don't. Being misgendered accidentally has never been something people cared about unless they had a bad self image and were taught how genders should look and those people generally just end up rallying for things in one direction that benefits them.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:18:01 2014 No.7370216

>>7370205
I'm pretty sure I never said go by the face only, men and women have extremely different body structure that is clearly visible in lolita, much less a mans voice will be far different from a woman's. I'm not going to argue with you when you're just going to keep projecting sympathy for your own reasons. Someone calls a girl manly and it makes them feel bad, well it goes both ways if you do the opposite, you only care about one side since you were never on the other.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:19:02 2014 No.7370217 >>7370185 Sworn virgins aren't non-gendered though, they're mostly asexual and choose to live as one gender that may or may not be their own. Also they're pretty limited to Albania so saying "Balkans" is kind of a broad term.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:21:01 2014 No.7370221 >>7370217 I was just going to say that, most of the other things they cited are more about sexuality not gender so much as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:25:32 2014 No.7370227 >>7370217 >>7370221 The term 3rd gender is often used to describe them. I never said they were non-gendered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:26:31 2014 No.7370230 >>7370221 Yeah, a more suitable example for the third gender would be Thai ladyboys (Kathoey).

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:28:01 2014 No.7370236 >>7370227 Well they aren't that either. They usually choose which of the 2 genders they are.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:30:01 2014 No.7370239

>>7370227
Well the term 3rd gender doesn't necessarily apply to those who are not male or female, but instead more closely trans, in which case the general public wouldn't necessarily refer to them as their chosen gender, but rather their perceived gender. It more addresses issues with non transitioning trans people than it does agendered people.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:32:01 2014 No.7370242

>>7370216
The brolita might think it was because of his body and voice, but he can still doubt himself and think that it's the dress, especially if he's never called ma'am outside lolita.
What does the girl have to work with? She's doing everythimg considered feminine. The only reason would be because of her appearance and voice.
It doesn't seem like an equal tradeoff.
I'm honestly confused. I'm not saying that brolitas don't have feelings and can't be deeply hurt by this. They certainly can.
I'm looking for risks here. Not every brolita will be insulted by beimg called feminine, since some of them wear lolita because they like looking feminine. But lots of women would be confused and hurt. Few would be flattered to be called a man in this situation.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:33:31 2014 No.7370245

>>7370236
From my understanding, third gender can be applied to those with the ability to switch genders should they please. But the definition I was taught on it was rather broad and consisted of what seemed to be a grouping of multiple possible definitions for the term. :/

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:34:32 2014 No.7370248 >>7370239 Thank you for this!

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:35:01 2014 No.7370251

>>7370236
Pretty much this, there is a lot of confusion about the terms meaning but even then, people in those groups are more likely to say that you can either define yourself as one of the two genders or both. The concept of genders outside male or female or a mix of the two or none is a very lightly studied concept that has only some vague psychological backing, but people tend to misuse terms to try to justify convoluting gender.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 14:42:31 2014 No.7370261

>>7370245
You were probably just taught by someone who wanted to be more inclusive, for the most part 3rd gender(and the term gender in a lot of cultures) has a lot of ties to both sexuality, physical attributes and personal preference and there are terms developed to differentiate between those.

Basically, countries like the US have really rudimentary or lacking ways of defining gender in a way that is inclusive and coherent enough to understand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 15:07:31 2014 No.7370292 File: 215 KB, 800x1058, online social justice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I feel like everyone on Tumblr needs to read this book.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 15:08:01 2014 No.7370297 File: 201 KB, 800x1058, online entitlement.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Or this one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 15:44:07 2014 No.7370353 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/13/facebook-gender_n_4782477.html I feel like this is a little relevant

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 15:45:37 2014 No.7370355

>>7370187
I feel the same way, anon. If it wasn't for my current financial situation, and the fact that I want kids, I'd get a double masectomy, and start dressing in boy style. The only reason I never bring it up is because 1) I'd probably be called out as being a "speshul snowflaek" and 2) I had a friend who turned complete SJW and wants to do the exact same thing, and I really, really don't want to be associated with that sort of person.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 20:35:36 2014 No.7370883

You know what's stupid?

It's stupid when people ask blogs like TiTP or blogs about cultural appropriation, if doing such and such things are bad. The people they are asking are not experts on shit. None of these people are even remotely professional at anything other than whining on the internet. So why do they act like they're authorities and why do other people treat them like they are authorities?

It's fucking ridiculous. I'm not going to change something I do because some blog with no professional backing told me to do it. I don't give two shits about what these people think and honestly, I don't know why anyone puts up with their attitudes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 20:53:37 2014 No.7370911 >>7369956 Throwing it in there that many australians are bloody hard to understand.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:17:39 2014 No.7370950

>>7369925
When the fuck did it become the "in" thing to be an introvert? I keep seeing this around and it baffles me, because I was never the "quirky introverted one" I was the "wait, who's that?". I'd have milked this on Tumblr had I known sooner, but I get the feeling an extrovert pretending to be introverted would have shoved me aside.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:31:25 2014 No.7370972

>>7370950
it isnt.
they fetishize a weird version where introverted people basically burst into flames when faced with having to interact with other people much like Phosphorus bursts into flames when it comes in contact with air.

they have introversion and "crippling social anxiety" confused

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:37:55 2014 No.7370987

>>7370950
I also want to know how "introvert" now carries all of these "extras" like ~reading books~ and ~drinking tea~ and ~quirkiness~ and ~Sherlock~ and ~intelligent conversation~ and ~social anxiety~. Last time I checked all it meant was being drained by social energy as opposed to being charged by it.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:46:55 2014 No.7371000

>>7370972
Ugh.
I'm an introvert too, but I really like hanging out with people. I think people are interesting and have fascinating stories. It's just that after a while I get tired of it and have to retreat in my home to read or watch Downton Abbey or something, but otherwise I really like networking and chatting.
Tumblrtards make it sound like introverts are those edgy "ppl suk xD" mallgoths.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:49:25 2014 No.7371003 >>7370950 The fetishize it the same way they do nerds, neets, and gamer girls and lots of other shit. >oooh your MPD is so sexy That's what mangas do. Glorify stuff for no real reason

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 21:59:55 2014 No.7371022 >>7371003 MPD... Manga Personality Disorder?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:06:55 2014 No.7371034 >>7371022 Multiple personality disorder is a huge fetish in Japan. Probably because they don't believe mental illnesses are real.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:07:25 2014 No.7371035

>>7370987
They're not completely wrong on two things. Introverts are more likely to have social anxiety and are deep thinkers (since that's how we recharge, among doing other things), which leads to people thinking we have magic powers of conversation. In truth I just think about shit too much.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:18:55 2014 No.7371062

>>7371035
Yeah, all these Tumblrtards think introverts are just ~misunderstood geniuses~ that are wonderful to talk to because we hold 'deep conversations,' when that's really damn near the opposite. I can't hold a decent conversation because I don't spend enough time around people irl to learn how to speak like a normal person (and even online, I need to get away from my friends, and just talk on an anonymous forum sometimes), and I'd much rather just sit and listen to someone else talk, or play a video game with minimal conversation, or even just read silently. If I'm good and 'recharged,' I can probably be near people for hours at a time (my tolerance has built up from years of conventions), but afterwards, I need to be alone for a week or two.
Hell, even reading a book that I really enjoy is enough to make me need to recharge, because I get really immersed, and afterwards, I'm completely mentally drained.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 22:20:55 2014 No.7371067

>>7371035
This. It's not at all any Dalai Lama wisdom bullshit, it's mostly random thoughts jumping from one thing onto another. Oh and those weird thoughts that you get about something crazy that you absolutely shouldn't do, like yesterday there was a grandma standing in front of me in a tram and I thought how I could grab her ass really easily if I wanted to, and a little voice in my head yelled "DO IT" even though I had no desire to do so previously, nor would I ever. The rest of the way home I was worried that I had some sick fetish and how if I was an old man I could brush it off as "man has needs" but alas, I'm a young female.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:18:25 2014 No.7371142

>>7369941
yeah, a lot of her thinking seems kind of 'sjws say the media says ____ so ____ is what everyone thinks' kind of thing.

>>7369950
>>7369960
haha I would if we still talked, the other things in the list were 'northface' and 'air fresheners'

>>7370044
I would link it but it's pretty boring, she doesn't really post anything, just reblogs stuff about how beyonce is the queen and pokemon and current events/popular funny tumblr posts. If she was a giant lolcow I would but.. her about me section isn't even cringeworthy anymore :/

>>7370950
I think the train of thought is something like
>I am nervous around people
>somehow it's their fault and nothing I can change
>people should respect me for who I am without me earning their respect
>somehow becomes super entitled and starts pretending they are somehow disabled because they are shy
>also seem to think they have carried some sort of intelligent martyr torch for years because 'everyone so comfortable around ppl and don't like books UNLIKE MEEE' and start thinking they are superior for being on tumblr all day and making shallow judgements about people they don't know very well
>also doesn't help their yaoi fanfics always have the 'uke' be all ~uguuu I'm quiet and damaged~
Also as >>7370972 said, the lack of concept of 'people drain my energy but I like them' doesn't real to them.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:41:01 2014 No.7371179

>>7371067
I don't think it's necessarily bad to like bad things, sexuality is a big part of thoughts I would say and can easily be a representation of some other kind of want. I dunno, I like a lot of totally terrible shit but it's not stuff I can act on because it would really hurt other people, I think that's fine because our choices are the important things in my opinion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:44:41 2014 No.7371182 >>7371179 Sure, but I really don't like grandmas' asses. The thoughts are more like those ones you get when you're scared of heights and standing on a cliff and a voice is telling you "jump! jump!" even though you clearly have no intention of doing so.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:46:41 2014 No.7371183

>>7370883
Either they are samefagging and asking the questions to give their ranting opinion
Or they are people who have been so brain-washed by the movement that they don't want to offend anyone and see these people as the authority on all things that may be offensive.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:54:41 2014 No.7371196 >ctrl+f "microaggression" >0 of 0 Google a load of this shit.

Anonymous Thu Feb 13 23:57:41 2014 No.7371197
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>>7371196
>Microrape -Characterized by predatory non-physical prurient communications with the intent to penetrate the victim's emotional security on the basis of heteronormative impositions.

I don't even...

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:03:41 2014 No.7371206 >>7371182 hah yeah true. I just meant about the subjugating of the butt

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:07:41 2014 No.7371212 >>7371197 no, no, microrape is raping of a little person i refuse to believe otherwise

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:18:41 2014 No.7371228 >>7371197 Last I heard that was called making an emotional/mental connection to each other by sexually suggestive vocal and body language. Also known as flirting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:19:41 2014 No.7371233 >>7371228 But there's a clear difference between wanted flirting and vocal harassment that turns into sexual harassment

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:25:41 2014 No.7371242

>>7371228
Don't you know, anon? Flirting ruins young ladies' lives!
I swear, I feel as if we've entered this strange dual universe where any sexual connotation is both strongly encouraged and strongly judged. It's become cool for sjw tumblrites to be a "confident strong womyn comfortable with her sexuality" and take photos of her naked tits and ass, but at the same time if you're a man and actually, you know, get a stiffy or god forbid try anything with her, oh you're cis rapist scum who deserves to die.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:32:41 2014 No.7371256 File: 25 KB, 432x401, 183528428424632.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sometimes I forget why I even follow people, but I found this on a SJWs blog. Anyone know anything about this?

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:33:41 2014 No.7371257

>>7371233
>vocal harassment that turns into sexual harassment

Like... harassment that isn't sexual to begin with, but then suddenly turned sexual? I'm not in full understanding of what you just said. Can you give an example of both cases?

From what I can understand, the only reply I can think of is I'm pretty sure what could end up as rape can also start as a flirt.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 00:42:41 2014 No.7371269

>>7371182
>>7371179
>>7371067
I heard a theory that these sort of intrusive thoughts come up to remind us of what we're supposed to and not supposed to do.
The example I heard was when you're walking past a down staircase, holding a baby, the voice maybe goes, "Throw the baby down the stairs!" This is a scary thought, but now you're holding the baby tighter and safer and are being careful not to trip.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:15:36 2014 No.7371312

I know the anon for the previous thread isn't going to see it there...
>>7370904
Main Entry: 1re·tard
Pronunciation: \ri-ˈtärd\
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French or Latin; Anglo-French retarder, from Latin retardare, from re- + tardus slow
Date: 15th century
transitive verb
1 : to slow up especially by preventing or hindering advance or accomplishment : impede 2 : to delay academic progress by failure to promote

TL;DR - retard originally meant "to hold back; a delay" not a 'slur'

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:22:36 2014 No.7371323 >>7371312 To be fair, 'faggot' meant a bunch of other stuff too. And 'fuck' began as 'fornication under the consent of king', and 'nigger' wasn't a slur either. But I'm still gonna call people retards because this is Murica.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:25:36 2014 No.7371326

>>7371312
Just because a word "originally" meant something harmless doesn't mean it's immune to becoming a slur. Stop trying to justify using a word that has completely lost it's original meaning when applied to learning and development because it's been used as venom way too much for it to be anything but derogatory.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:31:06 2014 No.7371335 >>7371326 Well now you're just being plain ignorant and endorsing ignorance.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:34:36 2014 No.7371337

>>7371326
I'm not trying to justify shit. I'm just pointing out that it's been around for ages as a word for "to be held back", that it wasn't originally a slur.

Fun fact: Subway has a machine called a Retarder and the bread that comes out of it is - no lie - retarded bread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:37:06 2014 No.7371342 >>7369673 >>7369649 I wasn't disagreeing neither of with you either, I was just pointlessly pointing something out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:37:36 2014 No.7371340 >>7371323 Fuck was never an acronym. Linguists can't even pinpoint when it was created or it's official origins. It's Germanic based, it was first recorded in ~1475 in the poem Flen Flyys, and that's about all they know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:56:06 2014 No.7371361 >>7371323 were you born a faggot or did something happen to make you this way?

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 01:58:36 2014 No.7371362

I often think that Social Justice has become some sort of mockery for the people who try to endorse it.

My problem with them resides in the fact that they love to entangle themselves with stuff that the world outside really doesn't care about. If we followed their rules irl we would probably end up causing more trouble than solving it because someone is -always- gonna get offended at something, doesn't matter if it was meant to be politically correct at first.

Not so long ago I saw a post of someone ranting about how tumblr likes to hate on cis white people because they're "privileged", and how it shouldn't happen since it's pretty hypocritical to ask for respect and ask to stop discrimination while at the same time bashing on your "oppressors". Someone replied with "well they oppressed us for the longest time so we have a right to do it too".

I just don't know how to react to these people's thoughts because what they want is impossible. They want the rest of the world to cater to their ridiculous needs and whims and to accept them being hypocrites sitting on a high horse and judging whoever doesn't fit their special snowflake criteria.

Also, I hate how they ask people to stop racism but say People of Color, as if it was any better and totally not segregating people who aren't white into one category.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 02:20:36 2014 No.7371382 >>7370069 >A monarch not being pathriarcal and cis as fuck These people are beyond delusional.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 02:21:36 2014 No.7371384 >>7371256 Lol I'm pretty sure that's about Frank Wolf, and look at all these bitches jumping onto the best friend train after someone dies wow.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 02:40:24 2014 No.7371413
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>>7369155
>not a lolita
>this is lolita
Typical retardbl.

>>7371362
>I hate how they ask people to stop racism but say People of Color
They see POC as noble savages. They are petite-burgoise cryptoracists who want not to carry the burden of their class privilege, so they target superficial stuff like gender-normativity and racism instead of class supremacy and exploitation. Most of them have no idea african slaves were sold to the europeans by POC, or that some of the worst cases of ethnic cleansing have been commited by POC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 02:42:24 2014 No.7371414 >>7371256 Ritsu from keion?

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>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 02:49:24 2014 No.7371423 >>7371413 >They see POC as noble savages. This is the most accurate thing I've ever read about SJWs.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:01:24 2014 No.7371436 >>7371420 Why did they have to notice that she is 'of color' ? That's racist ! I mean, would it be different if she was white ? That's fucking racist and stupid.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:07:54 2014 No.7371441

>>7369292
>blocks you and acts butthurt about it
>instead of trying to explain why you were wrong

Seriously, as much as I share some opinions with these people, I'm finding it harder and harder to interact with them. They are aggressive, extremist people who can never have a serious, logical discussion because they can't accept any point of view except their own, they refuse to change their minds, and they refuse to talk to anyone who doesn't already believe the same things they do.

HOW do they plan to change things if they segregate their political views inside their own cliques? How do they plan to make a difference if they won't talk to "bigots" and explain to them why they are "bigots"? HOW ON EARTH DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO AGREE WITH YOU IF YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO EXPLAIN TO THEM WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM?

I mean, seriously. People were raised in a society with bigoted views. You can't expect them to magically wake up, open their eyes and agree that blacks aren't inferior, there's nothing wrong with being gay, etc. YOU HAVE TO FUCKING EXPLAIN.

Srsly, this all feels like one big circlejerk fandom. Just a mean to socialize and feel superior.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:14:24 2014 No.7371449 >>7369925 >>complains about women being pressured into sex without having ever fucked anyone >but used to literally always wear makeup and make sure she looks pretty and is super vain These are just you being stupid, tho.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:27:24 2014 No.7371463 File: 98 KB, 317x299, 308960_1318870323462_317_300.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7371337 I'm immature and I laughed, sorry >retarded bread

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:43:59 2014 No.7371473 >>7371441 Sounds like the same thing cgl posters to though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:45:58 2014 No.7371475 >>7369309 literally w0t m8

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:47:58 2014 No.7371477 >>7369865 >im a plus sized all i needed to know

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:50:28 2014 No.7371480 >>7371449 >B-BUH IM JUS DOING IT FUH MAHSELF Yeah, I'm sure you'd lather your face with makeup if you were alone on a deserted island so you can feel good about yourself and do it for yourself.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 03:58:28 2014 No.7371487

>>7371473
Yes. Yes it does.
Difference is that we accept ourselves as the circlejerking clique and don't veil it with "oh no I'm just trying to fix the wrongs of the world". Except if you consider itas as wrongs of the world, in which case yes, it's 100% like /cgl/.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:00:58 2014 No.7371489

>>7370133
>but genderless and genderqueer are not and cannot be.
Funny, that's exactly what used to be said about transgenders back when it wasn't "a thing" yet. Actually, a lot of people still say and think that.

Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it "doesn't and cannot" exist.

>>7370187
Same here. I actually developed an ED when I hit puberty because I couldn't accept myself in a female body (it eventually became more than that, but that's besides the point), and to this day I still restrict, keep my hair short and wear neutral clothes. I've wanted a complete breast removal for a while, too, and for some time I even thought I might be trans (then I realized that a male isn't what I feel like/want to be either). Anyway, I like it when people call me "he", and I like it when they call me by my biological gender too.

I actually think this is my mom's fault, because as a baby and young child she kept me as androgynous as possible, and answered "yes" both when people asked her if I were a boy and when they asked if I were a girl. I don't blame her because it's not something that brings me problems, I just think that that is the cause. I can't see myself as a "real", actual girl. But not as a boy either. And I don't tell people that because, since I don't mind the misgendering and the questions whether I'm a boy or a girl, they don't have to know.

>>7370950
I don't understand HOW being an introverted ever became 'in', because I don't know if I'm autistic but I was also the "wait, who's that?", and I still am, even on the internet. I don't talk to anyone but my mom and cats on an average day, for fuck's sake.

I think when they say "introverts" they mean the stereotypical mysterious character who never talks to anyone. I say "character" because there are no real people like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:01:28 2014 No.7371490 >>7371480 I personally wear make up for myself, because I like dressing up and I feel like it lack something when I don't wear make up. But in my country heavy make up is not considered sexy at all, so different standars I guess.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:03:28 2014 No.7371493

>>7371480
No, that's not what I mean. I mean that just because you recognize the pressure to look good all the time it doesn't mean that you are free from it. I might understand that our society shuns women who are fat and don't shave and that this is wrong and should be fought, but that doesn't mean that I will stop shaving and allow my body hair to grow and face the backlash.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:09:58 2014 No.7371499

What I find funny is that they blame on men all the shits women have ato do to look good (thig gap, zero size, make up, waxing, high heals, etc) when that sort of things are imposed on women by themselves.

Most m en only really want you to look healthy and natural.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:13:58 2014 No.7371503 >>7371499 Males kind of like heels and waxed legs tought, but most of them are not found of makeup and tigh gap. Anyway, I agree, most of these things are made up by women. Men still prefer well groomed persones tought, most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:15:29 2014 No.7371506 >>7371503 Lots of men like waxed pussies too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:20:28 2014 No.7371513 >>7371506 Because porn sets a new norm. My old school husband prefers the bush, as long as it isn't sticking out of the underwears.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:20:28 2014 No.7371514

Whenever people are all "omg I have social anxiety dont talk to me about groups!!!!!" and "uh you have to tag everything about food BECAUSE THAT TRIGGERS ME"
I feel like... these people need professional help, they need to see a doctor, this isn't quirky acceptance, this is fucking insane and they need fucking help because they can't function in society if they're going to cry every time they see a training studio.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:20:59 2014 No.7371515

>>7371499
Do they blame men? I've never seen this.
>that sort of things are imposed on women by themselves.
No, stop. Women didn't suddenly choose to wear make-up and be stick thin just because. Capitalism set the rules. Being happy with your body does not generate capital, therefore a new, unattainable beauty ideal must be created so people will desperately chase it and BUY, BUY, BUY as they try to reach it.
I assume you're a guy by that last bit on your post, so I'll tell you: most women have no idea what men actually want, because it's hard to listen to a man who might be "just being polite" (or trying to be nice in order to fuck you because "men will fuck anything") when you get everywhere messages that your body is wrong, and too big, and too this and that.

AND media has a lot of influence on men too. The number of guys who get grossed out by body hair, orange peel skin, anuses that aren't pink, a bit of fat and vaginas with big (NORMAL) labia is ridiculous. To the point where I can securely tell you: no, not all men want girls to look healthy and natural.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:21:28 2014 No.7371518 >>7371506 There is a reson for that tough. When i go down on a girl i dont like picking pubes out of my teeth afterwards. Does not have to be waxed, just groomed is enough. But to each his own.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:21:58 2014 No.7371517 >>7371506 Meh, my past boyrfriends didn't mind, as long as it was well groomed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:30:28 2014 No.7371528 >>7371480 Don't you think most people would maybe prioritize survival a little bit? If I have the chance to look nice one day I will, and I will do it for myself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:31:28 2014 No.7371530 >>7371420 Her lines and wink in the vine were so cringingly forced

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:31:28 2014 No.7371531

>>7369950
>"Clean privilege is being able to sit anywhere you want on a bus or train without worrying about the person next to you scrunching up their face, saying ‘excuse me’ and then getting up to go sit somewhere else."

Are you fucking serious
then do hobos detest "Clean Privilege"?
let this be a joke pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:32:58 2014 No.7371532 >>7371518 >There is a reson for that tough. When i go down on a girl i dont like picking pubes out of my teeth afterwards. do you think girls dont think this too. yet guys dont trim their pubes HMMMmmMMMMMm

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:33:28 2014 No.7371534 >>7371532 My boyfrind do it. He don't wax, but it does trim because, well, I do it too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:34:28 2014 No.7371535 >>7371534 boyfriend* he* Sorry, I need to go to sleep

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:36:28 2014 No.7371536 >>7371534 good man

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:40:28 2014 No.7371540

>>7371515
I'm a woman.
I can see IRL that men don't like women caked in make-up, nor that they like fake boobs.

I can also see the zero size/thig gap obssession is pushed by women and gay fashion designers, not heterosexual men.

Women can be retarded too. We aren't the forever pathetic victims you are trying to make us be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:44:58 2014 No.7371542 >>7371532 More men would trim their if more women asked them to. After like 4 boyfriends who calmly complied to my request for them to do so, no questions asked, I firmly believe this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:45:58 2014 No.7371544 >>7371420 SHE IS OF COLOR. LOOK EVERYONE!! LOOK AT THIS LITTLE GIRL OF COLOR!! The more I think about this, all the more racist it comes off.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 04:51:58 2014 No.7371546

>>7371540
>I can see IRL that men don't like women caked in make-up, nor that they like fake boobs.
Most still require shaved legs and pubes, though. I also never said anything about men liking caked on make-up, fake boobs or thigh gaps, or even zero size.

>is pushed by women and gay fashion designers, not heterosexual men.
Fashion designers and fashion industry people, yeah. What's your point, though, that women only take in consideration what males think and want? Or that they can't unconsciously assume that because it's considered beautiful it means that men find those characteristics desirable?

It sounds like you're projecting a lot of stuff on me... I never said women were victims, only that they are born and raised and drowned by a culture that is always telling them there is something wrong with them, and EVERYONE is affected by their culture, and everyone is affected by that culture's messages. Men and women equally. It's not about being a victim, it's about hardly having a choice. Again: men and women equally.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 05:18:58 2014 No.7371563
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>>7371449
I didn't elaborate because post length maxed out-
>complains about women being pressured into sex without having ever fucked anyone
Sorry, it wasn't the best worded. She says shit like 'guys will say you are a either a prude or a slut' and complain about 'how guys are in relationships' without having literally any first hand experience. She just has no idea what she's talking about. I haven't ever heard someone refer to anyone as a prude except her. But she will blame the patriarchy for labeling her that way? Like she has no concept that people interact personally and not with like.. the Daily Mail between them and their boyfriend.

>but used to literally always wear makeup and make sure she looks pretty and is super vain
I have nothing against wearing makeup. I don't even but pretty girls are cool etc. Dressing up and looking whatever can be for yourself or other people or both, I get it. My problem is that she has talked out loud about how vain she is, and how important it is to her other people think she is pretty and cute. She is intensely judgmental of others and has done a lot of shallow things in person. Saying things like pic related and refusing to leave the house without makeup (and almost having a meltdown if she didn't think she looked good enough that day) is just very hypocritical to me. She literally actively makes it one of the most important things about herself.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 05:24:28 2014 No.7371567

>>7371563
Ok, she does sound clueless on the first point.
On the second, though... It sounds like she has some sort of issue. A self esteem issue, most likely. She rationally understands that people put girls beauty above other things, and (subconsciously) realizes that she herself does it, so she sees it even more on people (because she's looking for it, because she feels guilty by it). She obviously can't escape her own low self esteem, so she has meltdowns when she doesn't think she looks good; and she makes everything about her and is vain in an (again, subconscious) attempt to toughen up.

Maybe I'm just seeing myself in her, but that looks like what this is. She does sound like a retard, but that particular point looks to me more like an issue than sheer stupidity/wish to be a special snowflake.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 05:27:28 2014 No.7371568

>>7371563
I think this is sjw related and I included it because this way of thinking is growing with her, the idea of 'society thinks ___' so everyone is always oppressing me with ___. Granted her issues are more legitimate and not "I'm being oppressed for being asexual/dragonkin" but I have no friends that tell me how they hate women and women are only for fucking or being pretty and it's not ok for women to have casual sex or dress sexy.. and I was friends with basically a whole frat so I KNOW it's possible to have a complete friends circle of not retards in our town.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 05:31:59 2014 No.7371570

>>7371567
Yeah, what you are saying is true, I would say she has a lot of issues. A lot of things she does just bother me because she basically puts words into other people's mouths all the time with things like that.
>>7371568 sorry for so many posts this was my addition to >>7371563

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 05:33:58 2014 No.7371572

>>7371568
>but I have no friends that tell me how they hate women and women are only for fucking or being pretty
You do know nobody says it that bluntly? Not doubting the possibility of having a group of decent people as friends, just that the constant message that "women are supposed to be pretty" are subtle as fuck.

Anyway, sorry for picking on you and all, I guess it was most for personal reasons pointed out on my previous post.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 05:53:58 2014 No.7371580

>>7371572
No, I totally get it, and different pressures get some people harder. I think I was trying to say we live in a pretty liberal place haha. Even so I am not really a pretty person, so I try not to judge people about these things so much. She just pisses me off so much...obviously enough to vomit it all over /cgl/, sorry about that, but thanks for the honest responses.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 08:25:40 2014 No.7371623

>>7371035
On the social anxiety front, it's more that I'm tired of the two being equated, because they're not the same thing and I'm sick of the perpetuation of the stereotype that "introverts" spent little time around people because of shyness or anxiety rather than social exhaustion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 08:39:10 2014 No.7371630 >>7371312 I am seeing it and just because a word originally meant wasn't a slur doesn't mean that people don't now use it as a slur. Most words have changed over time and retard is most definitely a slur.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 08:44:40 2014 No.7371632

>>7371337
The thing is, they are using it in the old sense of the word and have it written on a bread maker not shouting it at someone to hurt them. Words that have different meanings can be used in different ways as long as they are used correctly.
Like, if you ask someone for a fag when you're outside and want to smoke. The word is a slur but everyone around you (if you're in the uk at least) will know that you are wanting to smoke and are in no way being homophobic but if I shouted 'you're a fag' at someone then that would be a slur. The way you use the word is what makes the difference.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 09:21:40 2014 No.7371649 >>7371632 >words have context! No shit. Christ you guys are retards.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 09:27:10 2014 No.7371654

>>7371563
She doesn't sound vain, anon. She sounds insecure and is hiding behind the makeup because she thinks (and is not completely wrong) that if she doesn't look pretty, she's worthless. It's not like people say that outright when they think it, it's more subtle and subconscious as one of the previous Anons said.
Maybe you haven't, but I've witnessed it a lot in my country. A pretty girl gets to ride in the bus even if it's leaving because the driver will stop for her. A pretty girl gets free stuff and if she cries she'll get let off more easily. People will harbor less hostile emotions towards her because she plays up her beauty and meekness even though she isn't like that actually and is a huge sassy twat with other women.
What your friend says isn't totally untrue, you just live in a place where it doesn't happen. I live in southeast Europe, here a man will blatantly say that women get paid less because they're useless and weak and that "that's just how it is" (except if his own daughter is in question, then she is better than everyone and deserves to be treated with respect).

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 09:36:10 2014 No.7371664 File: 99 KB, 453x604, image.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7371361 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 10:12:02 2014 No.7371690 >>7371506 No no no no no no. Trimmed and groomed is nice. Waxed looks like a little girl. Instant turn off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 10:35:02 2014 No.7371706 >>7371690 >Waxed looks like a little girl. >Instant turn on. ftfy

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 10:48:19 2014 No.7371719 >>7371654 Ha, I'm sorry I have come off so bitchy about it, I'm not against everything reasonable, she is just really self centered and it's hard to have sympathy for someone like that after a long time. I'm sorry about your country anon :/

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 11:39:56 2014 No.7371772 You obviously haven't been in either country. Half of the people I know from Spain are whiter than a lot of my English friends, but then people like you think Spain is one massive beach and paella.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 11:55:22 2014 No.7371791 >>7371649 Yet you yourself can't seem to understand the context I was talking about...

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 12:59:40 2014 No.7371865 >>7371544 Tbh I never really cared that I was 'coloured' until all of this POC crap started turning up. I would be annoyed to be referred to as a POC. I am me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 13:05:40 2014 No.7371869 >>7371772 Dude, you can't be whiter than the pink Britbongs. They have the highest rate of ginger world wide.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 14:09:15 2014 No.7371926 >>7371869 Irish do, and Scottish. Brits don't.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 14:19:46 2014 No.7371934

Ugh, I have two friends who are embarrassingly SJW, but they're both ignorant, hypocritical middle class white girls.

> one discovers tumblr
>becomes vegan, quits her job (well paying too) so she can live off welfare and dress "cool" with stupid hair cuts and piercings all over her face
>decides she is now gender queer because everyone on tumblr is doing it
>constantly bitching out men
>used to be racist as shit and lived with her then best friend who was a Nazi and would whole heartedly defend her if I brought it up, but obviously isn't (at least outwardly) now to fit in with the tumblr crowd
She basically has no integrity and jumps on any bandwagon. At least this is positive for her because she probably has histrionic personality disorder and is extremely self destructive, so being more positive about herself is good at least.

Other girl I know:
>Also vegan
>from small insular town
>discovered feminism and eats up all the SJW dogma with a very superficial understanding
>always looking for the chance to argue with men
>at one of my parties she straddles another of our friends, so a dude is like "ooh yeah!" And she decides this is a good chance to argue with him about feminism. Wat?
>go to Korean restaurant with her and she goes on about how cute the restaurant is and how cute the people are like we are at some fucking zoo
>I internally face palm
>recently she has decides she is a lesbian because she doesn't like men anymore. Went on a date with a woman but is no longer seeing her because there was "no chemistry"
>bitch is fucking straight as hell!

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 14:21:15 2014 No.7371935 >>7369925 What the fuck is wrong with dryer sheets? They make your clothes smell nice. There's nothing bougie about not wanting to smell like musty clothes. Have you just tried calling her out on being an idiot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 14:33:45 2014 No.7371947 >>7371934 Dating women is a good eye opener. All girls should try it, just to understand what guys go through. It might even cure her of her new SJW trendiness.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 14:39:15 2014 No.7371952 >>7371947 nigga what the fuck are you even on

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 14:42:15 2014 No.7371956 File: 8 KB, 226x223, images.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7371947 >just to understand what guys go through

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 15:09:15 2014 No.7371994 >>7371791 No you're just a faggot

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 15:18:16 2014 No.7372001 >>7371515 Capitalism set rules? So women only started to take care of themselves after the rapid capitalism took place? Come on. It's natural thing that women want to look better and better.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 15:23:45 2014 No.7372006

>>7371546
>>7372001

>It's about having a choice
Well, you have one.

>that they are born and raised and drowned by a culture that is always telling them there is something wrong with them, and EVERYONE is affected by their culture, and everyone is affected by that culture's messages. Men and women equally.

Yeah, this is how culture works, they set standards. Harsh? It has always been that way, ALWAYS. The culture always has its set of standards and will always have unless we go into some marxist ideaological society where everyone is ~equal~ and the same.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 15:50:45 2014 No.7372039 >>7371947 I went to a women's college. That was enough thank you. I'm very glad to have met my fiance, despite never getting out and being an awkward as fuck meanie pants.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 16:29:23 2014 No.7372082 >>7372039 What college, if you don't mind saying? I go to a women's college, too.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 16:42:23 2014 No.7372094

>>7371503
>most of these things are made up by women.
As a cis male, I can assure this. By personal experiece though, I can also assure that girls should try to keep their lower parts groomed because otherwise they turn out stinky and that can ruin sexy times. This goes also to men, so it's a general call for hygine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 16:46:25 2014 No.7372101 >>7372094 Check your clean privilege, hygiene shamer.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:11:55 2014 No.7372131 File: 14 KB, 240x240, 1346407964.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7369950 >Clean privilege is when your ‘friend’ ‘jokes’ that he never bathes before going to an anime convention, because ‘who is going to notice under the overall smell?’ Ah?

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:29:25 2014 No.7372153

Not ENTIRELY sjw, but I know this one chick and she's the biggest special snowflake ever I swear. Some days ago she claimed to have "seizures" because she fetishizes all that edgy demonic tumblr crap (and Loki).
Oh, and she totally rips everything I say and posts it on tumblr as a thing that happened to HER.
I had bad anxiety with depersonalization and panic attacks, but I took therapy and medicine and now I'm on my way to get cured.
She now claims she has it as well.
"Naturally, my family and doctors all thought I did have epilepsy, but tests all proved negative. And I hadn’t had an attack like that for quite a long, long time. I mean, I’m very…frail, so to speak (very low blood pressure) so I tend to faint often, especially during summer (I can’t handle heat very well), but I hadn’t had the seizure thing since I was 15 think? That’s 8 years now!

I don’t think of my own personal anxiety disorder as an illness, tho. And I am speaking only about myself. I can’t speak for other cases, because everyone is different. Me, I was born normal, (and was quite loud, obnoxious and social as a child) but due to bullying from both my peers and teachers when I started kindergarten/preschool and the first four years of school, I gained a really bad case of anxiety disorder. Other people are the reason why I have panic attacks and anxiety. I wasn’t born with it. That is why I don’t need meds or therapies or anything of that sort."

Bitch you damn straight need therapy to pull shit like this.
Oh and of course she is an "illustrator" who draws edgy gore and bloody teddy bears.
Not vendetta, just tired of her lying shit.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:30:25 2014 No.7372155

>>7369950
We should make a dirty privilege tumblr.

"Dirty privilege is having the entire row of seats to yourself, because no one wants to sit next to you. Those of us who are clean have to carry our bags on our laps and squeeze uncomfortably close together."

"Dirty privilege is not being hassled by strangers asking you for gum. They know you don't have any."

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:31:55 2014 No.7372156 >>7372082 Moore College in Philidelphia

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:35:55 2014 No.7372158 >>7372155 yes please

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:46:44 2014 No.7372168

>>7372155
I've been tempted to do the same with fat privilege.

"Fat privilege is when you get to take up an extra space on the train."

"Fat privilege is when skinny people pay more then their costs to fly to support your added weight, while you pay less then your cost."

"Fat privilege is eating what ever the fuck you want and then blaming genetics."

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 17:58:14 2014 No.7372187
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Is it just me or are SJWs/SJ idiots the equivalent to Fedora wearing MRA idiots? I feel that a large segment of the SJ scene is just a bunch of bitter girls who want to feel good about all the shit they've been bullied about in high school (being fat, ugly, etc) while at the same time wanting a perfect guy who likes them FOR THEM AND NOT FOR THEIR APPEARANCE OR FIGURE OR WHATEVER. To me its not a genuine care for social justice issues but its a way for them to find like minded people to create a boogie man antagonist who are the cause of all of their problems (cis white males) .

Don't even get me started on that whole POC shit. That in itself is pretty damn racist WHILE TRYING TO PUT ON AN AIR OF SUPERIORITY ABOUT IT. It's literally "we want more colored people in our entertainment because it makes us feel good for caring SO MUCH about their plight!"

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:06:15 2014 No.7372191 >>7372187 I think they are a mixture of edgy teenagers, resentful lesbians, an white middle class hipsters, all american or firstworlders BTW. People in the thiord world have real problems to deal with.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:07:14 2014 No.7372194

>>7372187
You've just noticed? Welcome friend grab your hat and free juice for joining the not batshit tumblr crazy club.

I agree about the POC thing, I hate the term especially since not all minorities are "of colour". It's a shitty term.
I'd love to see more racial and lgbt minorities on tv without it being central to their character. That's not an issue. But spewing "PRIVELEGG" and making up terms for everything that doesn't need a term/new term just pisses me off. They're less about real social justice and more about LOOK AT HOW ENLIGHTENED I TOTALLY AM FROM TAKING THAT SOCIOLOGY AND WOMENS 101 CLASS. I AM NOT OF THESE PEOPLE BUT I WILL TELL YOU YOU'RE WRONG EVEN IF YOU ARE ONE. FUGGIN CIS GENDER CIS MALE. SHARING CULTURE?!!!! THAT'S RACIST AND APPROPRIATION!!U RACIST FUCK.

They're the sj equivilent of femnazis

They don't really want what sj/feminism stand for, they want extremist outcomes that settle on "retrobution" as opposed to equality.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:07:44 2014 No.7372193
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>>7372187
>Is it just me or are SJWs/SJ idiots the equivalent to Fedora wearing MRA idiots?

That's a pretty good analogy.

And due to both side's extreme loathing of each other, they can't even hook up and solve their mutual problems like 4chan and tumblr once did.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:14:44 2014 No.7372199 >>7370076 ...Spaniards are pretty damn white. I've been living here for five years and the only non-white people I've seen were immigrants.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:17:45 2014 No.7372203

>>7372194

I managed to remain lucky with tumblr. I only followed good friends of mine who only reblogged anime and comics shit.

It's not even that they reblog shit they read from a sociology class, it's retarded talking points spewed from someone else who just so happens to have a sociology or womens studies 101 class under their belt.

One of my good friends wrote a nice paper on how social justice is on a epistemology level just plain idiotic and how if the movement were to try to accomplish anything they would completely and utterly fail given their outright refusal to accept anyone not in their circle. For example, the civil rights movement and the women's rights movements were heavily intertwined and neither movement would be successful without each others help, nevertheless of help of white guys who felt the issue was a humanist issue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:19:44 2014 No.7372207 >>7370076 Spaniards can be pretty damn white, same with Italians both people have their dark, medium, and light counterparts

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:22:14 2014 No.7372211 File: 21 KB, 700x525, 1327741665489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7372203 >One of my good friends wrote a nice paper on how social justice is on a epistemology level just plain idiotic Please share the link.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:24:14 2014 No.7372214 >>7372211 It's a paper he wrote for a college class and I just got the tl;dr version when the topic of SJW/MRAs came up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:25:14 2014 No.7372216 >>7372199 Just to clarify, I meant "white" as in "caucasian". As >>7372207 said, there are obviously different skintones, but they are still white. And definitely not Hispanic.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:27:45 2014 No.7372219

>>7372216

I think by "Spanish" they refer to hispanic/south americans. Still, that whole notion reeks of 1800s era "white man's burden" and of thinking of minorities as fucking endangered zoo animals that need protecting from the evil cis white male poachers.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:46:44 2014 No.7372245

I've seen a lot of SJWs creating characters/OCs with descriptions along the lines of "black, muslim, pansexual, vegan, overweight, disabled trans woman", like they're making sure they aren't leaving out ANY possible minority. They try so hard it's ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:48:14 2014 No.7372250 >>7372245 or when people draw fanart of characters and make them fat or just an entire different race which gets praised because it's so ~ different ~

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 18:54:44 2014 No.7372256 [DELETED]

>>7372250
Yeah, that one leaves me clueless. Sort of reminds me of how when a black woman dresses in Lolita, even if it may look average/bad, it has 30,000+ notes praising how beautiful it is despite the coordination being very terrible and awful.
I wish people would just be honest with themselves. If the cord is good, it's good. I don't give a fuck what race you are wearing it.
But oh no, that makes me a racist! I'm being "color-blind."
Fuck it all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:00:14 2014 No.7372258 >>7371420 Can anyone explain why the fuck I see some SJW blogs give descriptions of gifs when they reblog/post them? I honestly don't understand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:01:15 2014 No.7372259 >>7372168 please

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:09:14 2014 No.7372267 >>7372258 for epileptics and visually-impaired people who have to browse gifless/use text to speech programs

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:13:44 2014 No.7372272 >>7372131 Is it just me, or are the whites of her eyes huge.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:14:14 2014 No.7372273 >>7372258 It's for people with visual impairments who use screenreaders and whatnot to navigate so they can get an idea of what the image is even if they can't see it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:17:44 2014 No.7372278 >>7369155 >wear leggings >but no net stockings wat

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:18:14 2014 No.7372280 >>7372273 >>7372267 Makes much more sense now. I had no idea. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:37:34 2014 No.7372291 File: 1.46 MB, 3012x2388, 1392424645432.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7372272 Yes they are.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:40:20 2014 No.7372292
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>>7372194
Man idk. I'm trans and I always wish I didnt have to out myself to correct people.

I can't deal with flamers saying shit like "Im such girl rite??!!" Or proclaimed trans peeps going around with beards claiming that all trans people are like them.

The image of trans people at my workplace Is an idiot who outed himself and comlpained about why no one was treating him like a girl with his hairy legs and stilettos. Idk I wish people werw more informes

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 19:45:22 2014 No.7372298

>>7369633
Eh, if tumblr has taught me anything it's that a lot of the crazy shit actually comes from non-whites who are basically straight-up racial nationalists. There aren't that many white people who hate their race, and most of them are easy to spot (involved in interracial relationships or whatever). It's why I started to support /pol/ and am involved in all the traditionalist groupings on tumblr now.

Believe me, the lion's share of the anti-white stuff on tumblr comes from grievance filled non-whites, there just aren't that many white self-loathers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:27:57 2014 No.7372323 >>7371926 Britain is three countries, including Scotland you retard. It's not a synonym for England.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:43:00 2014 No.7372338 File: 28 KB, 343x343, uwotm8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7372292 >hairy legs and stilettos captcha: her hasrssb

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:46:00 2014 No.7372344 >>7372259 Suggest some?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:50:02 2014 No.7372349 >>7372344 "Fat privilege is when you don't have to wear extra layers to keep warm" "Fat privilege is when people don't look at you and say 'you need to eat more'" "Fat privilege is when you have extra padding when you fall"

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:53:02 2014 No.7372356 >>7372349 "Fat privilege is when you travel through time back to the neolithic and you are not considered a fertility godess"

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 14 20:58:52 2014 No.7372367 >>7372349 >"Fat privilege is when people don't look at you and say 'you need to eat more'" Fuck I get that bullshit all the time.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 23:02:13 2014 No.7372467

>>7372006
>>7372001
Standards is one thing, Beauty standards are impossible to run away from. And yes, women always prettied themselves up.

That's not what I'm talking about; if you can't understand that capitalism DOES set a shitload of unrealistic standards and expectations of people, I really have nothing to tell you: you are stupid, period.

Anonymous Fri Feb 14 23:48:36 2014 No.7372522

>>7372467
people like things they think are pretty but no one is MAKING anyone else buy makeup and nair and more clothes and a new nail polish everytime they see a cool color and things that flavor their water and more furniture for their house and etc and etc.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:18:01 2014 No.7372598

>>7372467
The gov't isn't putting a gun to your head or taxing you to force you to buy in to beauty standards. If you feel like you actually wanna sudoku over that, then there are bigger issues at hand.
If a girl being bullied at school for being "ugly" commits suicide, the problem ain't Christian Dior's fault, it ain't L'Oreal's fault, it ain't Cosmo's fault, and it ain't the Admen's on Mad Ave fault. That falls on the laps of the assdicks that bullied her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:34:13 2014 No.7372610 File: 46 KB, 677x669, 1392300825320.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>7370133

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 01:55:17 2014 No.7372634 >>7371337 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_%28kitchen_tool%29 Baking bread would make SJWs so angry

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 15 02:42:12 2014 No.7372664 >>7372634 I might be a little slow, but... I don't see the connection.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 04:27:53 2014 No.7372746
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honestly, this is all stuff that makes me want to stop even going to tumblr anymore. I remember when it was just being nerds and reblogging pretty shit. bland, but not this toxic entitlement trash that seems to become more and more accepted.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:33:06 2014 No.7372768

>>7372522
>>7372598
>The gov't isn't putting a gun to your head or taxing you to force you to buy in to beauty standards.
What is subtlety

> That falls on the laps of the assdicks that bullied her.
And why did they bully her? Ta-taaaa: because beauty is important as fuck. Because our image-based world puts a lot of emphasis on beauty. Because "beauty" is no longer achievable. Because L'Oreal wants you to buy their shampoo, and La Mer wants you to buy their face cream. So they tell you what you currently have is ugly (and being ugly is bad, but especially bad on a photo-edited world) and that you can achieve photo-edited beauty if only you'll buy their products. Christian Dior misuses their prestige and fame and shows rail thin girls, and of course, because Dior = luxury, good, beauty (all things good) then what's associated with it is also good and beautiful. Therefore, rail thin = beautiful.

Cosmo comes along and reinforces all of the previous ideas when they have "get thin!" "achieve that unbelievable photoshop skin!" "perfect hair 1, 2, 3" on their covers.

Blaming the people who perpetuate these ideas is hitting the weakest part of the chain, and it shows a lack of thought and perspective. You won't get anywhere blaming people for a behavior if they are showing that behavior for bigger reasons.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 05:41:08 2014 No.7372775

>>7372768
>And why did they bully her? Ta-taaaa: because beauty is important as fuck.

If it was that important, why didn't everyone bully her? ~TA-DAAAA~ Because only bullies do. I'd say rid the world of them first, and you wouldn't have to consider taxing the beautiful, giving subsidies to those who aren't, or even more desperate measures.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 07:14:05 2014 No.7372799

>>7372768
Um, I'm sorry, but you are responsible for your behavior and raising your kids not to be little fucks to everyone else. Just because people want to sell you things does not mean you can throw personal accountability/responsibility out the goddamn window.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 07:19:06 2014 No.7372802

>>7372768
And I would like to also ad to >>7372799, that you are not going to get ANYWHERE fucking complaining about cosmo or dior or l'oreal on the internet. You think if enough people bitch the government is going to ban beauty products? People literally have to step up independently and go, "hey, I want to be happy with myself, and I don't have to be a consumer whore to do that." But that is actually doing something, and people would rather someone fix things for them.

Anonymous Sat Feb 15 16:20:27 2014 No.7373207
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>>7372775
>What is subtlety
You are either and independent adult capable of your own decisions or you're not. Blaming capitalism for it (or anyone in general) is childish.

And again, beauty standards have always existed. There is no getting rid of them.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 01:04:13 2014 No.7373828 >>7373207 >>7372802 >>7372799 >>7372775 /cgl/ confirmed for stupid people who completely lack critical sense

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 01:14:35 2014 No.7373837 >>7373828 So... do you have any counterpoints to prove your point? Queef on, bitch. I have Darude on standby.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 16 02:26:42 2014 No.7373919 >>7373828 There's no sense in blaming other people for everything and never fixing your own problems.

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