/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

[Frozen Cosplay No.7267109]

"Why the hell was the last thread deleted?" - The Thread

Discuss hypocritical cosplayers, embroidery and armpit capes! Cosplay plans, critiques and WIPs are all welcomed and encouraged.

[Anonymous No.7267123]

>Actual embroidery

Thank youuu

[Anonymous No.7267127]

jesus christ

[Anonymous No.7267130]

>>7267109

I would NEVER venture to tell someone because of their looks that they shouldn't cosplay something.

I prefer people make their cosplay and I like them to put in effort and all. But looks are something you have little conrtol over (aside from weight) and it is the height of bitch to demand someone's genetics match a made up character.

[Anonymous No.7267133]

>I met several animators from Frozen, and they all let me know that they thought my dress was the best they had seen. Yay!

Mhmmm.

[Anonymous No.7267135]

>>7267127
She will fit Elsa great, but that makeup needs to fucking go. Why would you literally make a straight line in purple over your eye....?

[Anonymous No.7267136]

it always seems to be the ones who rant about everything wrong with their cosplay fandoms that should heed their own advice, doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.7267141]

It was deleted because the OP of the first thread got exposed for being someone on Tumblr with a really shitty cosplay but felt compelled say someone's decent Elsa cosplay was INACCURATE AND WRONG and was like rape!!11!!!!

[Anonymous No.7267144]

>>7267133
and suddenly I'm reminded of Traci Hines saying that an animator from The Little Mermaid said she was the ~best person to ever interpret Ariel~

[Anonymous No.7267143]

>>7267127
She has an amazing face for Elsa, and with a bit of tweaking, that wig will look lovely. But the makeup just looks...odd. If she just shaped the eyeshadow/liner, rather than that weird straight block, she'll look fantastic

[Anonymous No.7267154]

Is she really doing this all by herself at 16? Pretty amazing progress.

[Anonymous No.7267172]

>>7267154
I have pictures saved on my laptop. She went from buying everything online to making fully lined costumes with somewhat advanced techniques in a matter of months.
She's said both her parents are artists and her mom and grandma sew, but she's ~entirely self taught~. Her parents also buy her everything she needs for all of her costumes

these are the same parents that let her walk around otakon in downtown murdermore in 5" heels with her ass out of her cosplay from some hentai game at like 14 years old
It's all really weird

[Queen N !!dqP6WAmFwk9 No.7267187]

>>7267154
Her blog shows all of her progress and she makes tutorials for those who read it. She's also said that she's taken sewing classes.

http://doxiequeen1.wordpress.com/

I think her parents are a little overprotective (they do accompany her to cons and homeschool her??? idk I may have made that up), but they're supportive and have the means to fund her hobby. Doubt she told them that character was from a hentai game though...

[Anonymous No.7267222]

bumping

[Anonymous No.7267236]

>>7267222
/cgl/ is not a fast board, you don't need to bump.

[Anonymous No.7267244]

>>7267236
Is that the deluxe version from the Disney Store? Either way that's a lovely interpretation of the cape.

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7267243]

I have a big nose, so it looks like I'll be ruining whichever Frozen costume I decide to do. Put aside the fact that I'll very carefully choose my fabrics, spend hours getting the wig just right, and will applique or embroider all of the designs. It will be RUINED because my NOSE is BIG OMG.
Seems like there's a disproportionate amount of Frozen elitism compared to Brave and Tangled. Yeah, some people got nitpicky about the wigs for those, but I feel like there's more vendetta posts for Frozen. Is that just me seeing that? At least they get deleted quickly.

Can we have a "how to do ___ right" thread? So instead of people bitching about things being done the wrong way, we discuss which materials and methods are best for the costumes?
Personally, I'd like to see ice dress Elsas using lacefront wigs. Even Arda has decent lacefront wigs and sells matching wefts, so it's not too hard to achieve a more natural-appearing hairline.

[Anonymous No.7267247]

>>7267243
Have all the lace fronts I've seen been done wrong or do they just not do what they say on the tin in real life? The net is visible even with make up. Or is it just a photoshop aid in the long run?

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7267264]

>>7267247
A lot of people don't wear lacefronts properly. You have to trim the lace very carefully along the hairline. Most people just hack it down to half an inch and call it a day. I've seen some immensely convincing lacefronts, just takes more work than some people like. But if you're making an ice dress, might as well go the extra mile.

[Anonymous No.7267262]

>>7267244
yep!

[Anonymous No.7267271]

Can I get some feedback on my Elsa wig?

It's slipping off the wig head in the middle picture and I haven't quite worked out how to style all the wisps into submission yet.

It's also been handled a fair bit so it need's re-braiding to catch the stray hairs.

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7267276]

>>7267271
I like what you did with the braid, especially using hair to cover the band at the end. But I'm confused as to why you have bangs in your wig when Elsa has nearly all of them combed back.
If I may ask, where did you get your wig? If it's heat-resistant, try using a hairdryer along the roots while you pull the wefts back. Some heat should help shape them so that they naturally lie back the way you want them.

[Anonymous No.7267279]

>>7267276
It's a recycled wig that already had some short bangs. I was going to leave a little bit forward as in several scenes and promo art she has a stray wisp and either style the rest back or trim it down so it didn't matter.

[Anonymous No.7267280]

>>7267154
I thought she was older than 16 now? Something about her taking a year off after graduating to build up a portfolio.

>>7267271
Color looks way too yellow, but there's nothing you can do about that at this point. Braid looks ok. Can't really give you any feedback on the front since the way you've got it on the head right now makes it look wonky.

[Anonymous No.7267282]

>>7267271
It might be better for us to see it on your head, just so we can take into consideration your face shape.

I think your braid starts too high up, however. Additionally, I noticed during the movie that her swooped back bangs have a distinct point to the end. There were around six or seven bangs.

[Anonymous No.7267296]

>>7267133

That is... not a good costume.

[Anonymous No.7267298]

>>7267280
Took some less sloppy pictures (and actually pinned the wig to the head) and re-adjusted the colour balance so it looks more like it does in natural light.

>>7267282
I'll start lower when I re-braid it and weft some more hair into the hair line to style into her bangs. Do you think that would work?

[Anonymous No.7267301]

>>7267243
Everyone seems to be really elitist about Frozen. Disney fans complain it's 'not good enough', cosplayers are getting really nitpicky about everything...
Not sure if I just have my rose-tinted glasses on but I really enjoyed the film and am interested in everyone's attempts at the costumes.

For my own Elsa cosplay, I'm probably going to sew two wigs together. I've hunted for a lace-front but I can't find one that would be cheaper than just buying and editing two wigs. Not sure on fabrics yet but I'm thinking of using chiffon for the undershirt (obvious choice) and duchess satin for the base corset with possibly sequin detail. The cape is bothering me though as the designs are so block-y at the top, most methods will heavily affect the drape and flow.
Currently thinking of embroidery embellished with rhinestones/crystal beads (I can't spell it)?

Either tomorrow or Tuesday, I'll scan my art-book if people want? I'd do it tonight but it's nearly 2am, I'm tired and rambly, and the scanner makes a noise like a lawnmower eating a tin.

[Anonymous No.7267317]

>>7267133
just passing by but for a second I thought she was doing a terrible Daenerys cosplay

[Anonymous No.7267320]

>>7267187
Oh! I remeber her, She's the one who cosplayed Royal milk tea from Sakizou! Pretty cute too...

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7267396]

>>7267279
She doesn't have as much combed forward as you do on that wig, though. Definitely worth trying the hair dryer trick, that will probably make the whole process easier for you.
>>7267301
I'm glad I'm not alone on this one. I adored the movie and I'm really looking forward to seeing some Kristoffs and winter Annas.
If I were to make Elsa's armpit cape, I would start with the designs drawn out on paper underneath the cape itself the way Angela did. However, I'd rather use sparkly/metallic So Soft fabric paint. It's washable, iron-able (not that you'd be ironing the cape) and goes on pretty evenly. Rhinestones will prevent it from flowing, and most fabric or acrylic paints leave sheer fabric with a crispy texture.
I would adore you for doing that artbook scan. The designs on some parts of the costumes are hard to see in the movie.

[Anonymous No.7267413]

>>7267109
>mfw I follow this person and not even sure why

[Anonymous No.7267422]

>>7267301
Does your artbook contain anything for Kristoff? If it does, I would love you forever if you were able to scan it.

[Anonymous No.7267428]

>>7267413
because this shit is hilarious anon

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7267430]

>>7267422
If you cosplay Kristoff, I would love you forever. The world needs more cosplay of the dudes in Frozen.

[Anonymous No.7267431]

>>7267428
Just checked and turns out I unfollowed her. Realized it was because she'd reblog 20+ lolita posts one after another like she'd never discovered how to use a queue. Finally just got fed up with it.

[Anonymous No.7267437]

>>7267109
Jeez what a bitch

[Anonymous No.7267477]

>The Art of Frozen
https://www.mediafire.com/?8qzrlnxclu1poc4

Straight from /co/.

[Anonymous No.7267505]

>>7267477
Thank you for sharing, since I don't venture to /co/

[Anonymous No.7267524]

>>7267130
I mean if they want to look like shit they can look like shit.

[Anonymous No.7267559]

>>7267524

not having the same features a character has is not auto shit.

Who lead you to believe that?

There are things you can do to help pull off a good costume even if you have bigger cheeks, different hairline, big nose, closer set eyes, different color skin, are taller, or bustier.


I'm certainly taller and probably a great deal fatter than characters I do. My first line of attack is a flawless costume. I fit things properly, use good fabric, line it, snip those threads, and iron everything. Proper shoes and good props if I need to make some.

Proper make up is next. You can correct a lot with that.

No shit wigs. None. If a good wig can't be had then what is the point of all the rest I just did?

Not being a lard ass. I said I am fatter but there is no excuse for me to be obese. I eat what I should eat and turn down the cake because I would like the costumes I worked hard on last year to still fit.

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7267608]

Katinka linked me to this tutorial. Good starting place for anyone working on the bodice.

[Anonymous No.7267615]

>>7267608

WHY DOES EVERYONE GET THE GODDAMN COLOR WRONG

IT'S NOT TEAL

IT'S ICE BLUE

[Anonymous No.7267618]

>>7267559
Agreeing on all these points: Good materials to start with, tailoring well, doing your makeup well, and finishing things with well-styled wigs and all the other accoutrements is what makes a cosplay a win.

I think even the Russian Barbie would be hard pressed to look exactly like a Disney/Pixar girl.

I would agree with OP's statement that the costumes require a lot of skill and are deceptively difficult. But that's no reason someone who isn't top-notch cannot work slowly and learn how to make the costume well if they have the time and patience.

I would also agree that Elsa's hair is platinum blonde, not white/silver/nor Rapunzel/Aurora/Cinderella shades of blonde. I know it can be hard to nail down exact colors from movie stills because of all the environmental lighting etc. but all the if someone doesn't believe, there are all the books, art, CG promo stills, and dolls that also have platinum blonde hair.

>>7267524
I can see where you're coming from too. I personally don't care what other people do with their money. If they don't make a spectacular Frozen costume, it's not really my problem or a concern. I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing.

[Anonymous No.7267675]

The girl in the Tumblr rant screenshot has her own cosplay page:

http://pikurusu-cosplay.deviantart.com/gallery/

The irony is simply beautiful.

[Anonymous No.7267689]

>>7267675
Holy shit, between tumblr and her DA, she is the last person to be ranting and raving like that about cosplay (dat Meridah costume is simply god-tier). Hahaha delicious irony, indeed.

But then again, I think this happens a lot in cosplay - where people get all ranty and stuff but don't even follow the rules they try to impose on others and perhaps make even worse cosplays.

[Anonymous No.7267697]

>>7267689
Completely. Not everyone is 100% perfect in cosplay, that in itself is rare to see. But to see she has flaws in her own costume work and appearance to match the characters spot on of choice when she just ranted about how cosplayers need to look EXACTLY like Elsa, she doesn't have the right to even speak.

[Anonymous No.7267715]

>>7267608
yeah lets haphazardly cut sequins and hot glue them onto a bodice of all pieces.. Dear lord..

[Anonymous No.7267720]

>>7267715
Right idea, wrong execution.

Actually, has anyone seen a person make a nice bodice yet? The "finished" cosplays I've seen were either way off or were actual corsets with some sequins glued on them. What is out there that looks good?

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7267746]

>>7267615
>>7267715
>>7267720
Like I said, starting place. I think this girl's bodice still looks better than the hundred Elsa bodices that feature either generic sparkly fabric or plain round sequins.

[Anonymous No.7268151]

>>7267154
>>7267172
>>7267187

Angela is so freaking talented.
Like, that is legit seamstress talent.

[Anonymous No.7268171]

>>7267109
>complaining about people not being accurate
>isnt

[Anonymous No.7268185]

>>7267109
>being this mad over someone else's dress-up

[Anonymous No.7268195]

>>7267154
>>7267187
Holy shit this is impressive, but...
That level of detail on her costumes, the thousands of rhinestones for Elsa ALL SET AND GLUED BY HAND INSTEAD OF IRONING ON HOTFIX RHINESTONES, the whole over-the-top-perfection... I don't know what to think, I love her costumes but her blog makes me feel itchy and uncomfortable. Like watching an autist do something weird

[Anonymous No.7268207]

>>7268171
>mfw I am rush-making this costume in a week with cheap material for a non-cosplaying friend and even my attempt looks better than this

[Anonymous No.7268236]

>>7268171
Whats this girls nationality? She has nice eyes

[Anonymous No.7268242]

>>7268195
Costume is bad: LOL WHAT A LOSER
Costume is good: meh average I don't like it
Costume is great: OMG AUTIST

It's like there's no pleasing you people, is there

[Anonymous No.7268251]

>>7267675
>http://pikurusu-cosplay.deviantart.com/gallery/
Wow this girl is complaining about other people's cosplay and she uses a bought Mami with the shitty plastic 'corset' with absolutely no boning. Excuse me I need a minute I am laughing too hard.

[Anonymous No.7268267]

>>7268195
Uh, hotfix stones can take a crapload of time and patience if you are hand setting each individual stone for really complicated designs. I easily dropped about 35 hours into doing something with hotfix.

or are you talking about the big sheet transfer designs?

[Anonymous No.7268268]

>>7268242

yeah that's pretty much it.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Sad.

[Anonymous No.7268272]

>>7268268
But who takes this place as the final word and believes what is said here anyway?

To me, 4chan is like NYPost, fun to read, but not to be read with any seriousness.

[Anonymous No.7268274]

>>7268195
>captcha: Salter offmsQ
Captcha agrees, you a salty ass bitch

[Anonymous No.7268326]

>>7267608
wouldn't it be better to leave the holes in (or to punch new holes with an awl) to sew the flaps down to make them secure?

[Anonymous No.7268335]

>>7268326
I would think so. It would give the bodice uniform smoothness and an overall "sleek" look.

Then again, I'm seeing a lot of people making their bodice and skirts as separates and they have the gap between the bodice and skirt which looks kind of awkward and adds bulk, especially when Elsa's skirt is more like an A-line and doesn't have a full "Disney Princess" type skirt that would conceal this.

[Anonymous No.7268427]

>>7268242
No no no, I think her work is completely awesome. The level of detail is just a little over the top, she could have it a lot easier if she used different materials

[Anonymous No.7268518]

Whelp, it looks like the kids on coscom are telling others to get white/silver wigs because Elsa is the "snow queen" therefore white and silver are snow colors and should be used.

I wonder how many of them have even seen the movie.

[Anonymous No.7268630]

I love Angela's work and follow her blog, but am a bit sad she's not going for accuracy with Elsa. Her Royal Milk Tea and Merida were both pretty accurate, but with Elsa she's all over the place. I am mad jelly that she's so pale and will look gorgeous as Elsa.

>tfw yellow as fuark
>cry all day

[Anonymous No.7268703]

>>7268630

I don't see a lot of inaccuracy besides her thinning the designs on the cape. How else has she changed her design?

[Anonymous No.7268908]

>>7267477
Oh wow, thank you! Do people still want me to scan my artbook anyway (just the character specific pages)?

I took some photos of my LE Elsa doll today for inspiration and potential reference. While I did take the plastic front off the box to get clearer shots, if people want pictures of the back of the doll, they'll have to find someone who's taken their doll out of the box. I love how she looks in her box. I'm not hugely bothered on mint-in-box collecting, but no way can I get her back in her box as prettily!
First shot: full body shot

[Anonymous No.7268915]

>>7268908
Second: close up on the face detail/fringe. The hair is definitely platinum blonde on the doll!

[Anonymous No.7268917]

>>7268915
Third: bodice detail.

[Anonymous No.7268926]

>>7268917
Four: close up of the top of the cape detail. This is one of the options I'm currently considering my own cape: embroidery embellished with either beads or rhinestones.
I just don't get on well with fabric paint so I'm keeping that for a later resort.

[Anonymous No.7268933]

>>7268926
Fifth: a close up of the cape fabric itself. They've put glitter between two layers of chiffon, adding a subtle sparkle.

[Anonymous No.7268936]

>>7268933
Sixth: snowflake embroidery on the cape.

[Anonymous No.7268938]

>>7268936
Seventh: last one! The snowflake decorations in her hair. Could be fun to add a bit more Disney sparkle this way if that's your thing?

[Anonymous No.7268949]

What would you guys suggest as a fabric choice for the shirt part of Elsa's coronation outfit? It seems to have this shine to it, but I don't want to go with shiny synthetic fabrics since I'm trying to stay as close to the setting as possible and therefore mainly using natural fabrics.

[Anonymous No.7268959]

>>7268949

It reminds me a bit of brushed suede. There's a good Tumblr post somewhere about acceptable fabrics for Anna, though it could be applied to Elsa.

[Anonymous No.7268960]

>>7268938
reminds me of pic related. I wonder if they used this as an inspiration?

[Anonymous No.7268966]

>>7268949
Her coronation outfit looks like a mix of velvet, suedes/molkeskins to me. You've got softly diffused light on the surface of all the fabrics which is why I think it's something with some texture.

[Anonymous No.7268983]

>>7268949
http://maregoe.tumblr.com/post/69929667511/okay-im-sorry-but-it-makes-me-slightly-annoyed

this norwegian blogger is telling people in the tags that the outfits should be mostly wool, since that's what the norwegian traditional dress they're styled after are made of.

[Anonymous No.7268989]

>>7268960
Ooh it does look that way! It's not mentioned in the artbook, but it does look similar, doesn't it?

[Anonymous No.7268988]

>>7268171
oh god, someone fix her makeup.

[Anonymous No.7269006]

>>7268960
wouldn't be surprised.

off topic, it's also what the inspiration was behind Christine's Hannibal dress in the Phantom of the Opera movie.

[Anonymous No.7269022]

>>7268983
I was actually going to go mostly with wool anyway.
Just in case anybody is interested in the historical approach, A. Bender has a lot of info about historical fashion and fabrics.
http://marquise.de/en/themes/howto/stoffe.shtml
http://marquise.de/en/themes/howto/plastik.shtml

[Anonymous No.7269045]

>>7268959
is this the post you're thinking of?
http://wind-take-me-home.tumblr.com/post/71201846722/reference-post-of-annas-coronation-dress-in-case

[Anonymous No.7269391]

>>7268703
Inaccurate shoes and she's made the cape less full than the original design, but it still looks pretty large.

>>7268630
>I am mad jelly that she's so pale and will look gorgeous as Elsa.
Her round face and all that leg, too. Sometimes I wish I was her height, but being a shorty is okay I guess...

[Anonymous No.7269397]

>>7269006
This is the only cosplay I would ever do.

[Anonymous No.7269429]

>>7267675
Pfft. I wish I knew how tumblr worked to just post that Brave cosplay to the OP post. She looks nothing like that character.

[Anonymous No.7269427]

>>7267109
Just sent her a non-Anon message about her shit attitude. I wonder if she'll reply.
>>7267133
I would believe they told her that. Creators tend to gush over costumes even when they're shitty.

[Anonymous No.7269433]

>tfw mixed black and white
>tfw when want to cosplay Elsa,Tiana, and Esmerelda more than any other Disney characters
>tfw too dark for the first, too light for the other two

[Anonymous No.7269434]

>>7269433

Don't let your skin color stop you from cosplaying your favorite characters. Even /cgl/ admires a good costume over genetics.

[Anonymous No.7269766]

>>7269433
Uh, there are plenty of full Black cosplayers who dress up as whatever.

[Anonymous No.7269793]

>>7268171
Holy hell those seams. She didnt even press the ends when she was hemming her sleeves the top stitching is horrible. Also LOL at the princess seams. Surcoats didnt have them historically nor did they have them in Brave. Go you just gotta love when this happens.

[Anonymous No.7269799]

>>7268267
How well does hotfix stones stick? When I saw Angela's work I was more wondering if they would just eventually pop off and leave a trail of rhinestones everywhere. Curious for my own future projects.

[Anonymous No.7269827]

>>7268703
The patterns on the sleeve and cape are very inaccurate, her bodice looks nice but doesn't have the sequin and rhinestone detailing it does in the movie, and the dress isn't ombre. With a movie like this where they spent so much time animating each stitch of embroidery, accuracy is really fucking important with almost no creative leeway like in anime.

[Anonymous No.7269855]

>>7269799
If you set them properly the first time, they stay until you repeat using ungodly high temps that set them in the first place. The adhesive is much stronger than something like hot glue.

That said, if you do any washing of the garment, handwash it, air dry it. Gently steam it to get the fabric smooth again. You can iron over it with a presser cloth, but just be sure not to touch your design again until everything is completely cooled.

[Anonymous No.7269873]

>>7269855
Cool thanks for the info!

[Anonymous No.7269879]

>>7267154
She went from buying everything...

[Anonymous No.7269888]

>>7267154
>>7269879
To "sewing" everything in a matter of months.
Months.
You tell me her level of "expertise" isn't fish as shit, especially when she's admitted her mother is a seamstress.
While she might be sewing her stuff now, there's no way she reached that level so quickly just with self-teaching from youtube videos and absolutely no help from her parents (her original story, although I guess she's admitted to "taking classes" now?)

Sage for this not being an angela thread.

[Anonymous No.7269891]

>>7269888
To be honest, I could believe she's embellishing what she's doing and what her mother and grandmother are doing. At the same time, since her mother and grandmother are both seamstresses, I can imagine Angela was learning to sew and such from a young age from them, on top of classes? I don't know why she would have chosen to buy sub-par Chinese cosplays for so long though.

[Anonymous No.7269894]

>>7269879
Oh come now its not that hard to believe that she's been learning to sew her own stuff. Sure she might be getting some instruction but shes attempting to build a portfolio for design school. Shes going to half to know how to do shit if shes applying for schools. She's also home schooled so I could see her parents maybe allowing her more time on learning to sew and taking lessons than her other studies especially if this is the career shes chosen. So her improving fast isnt really that much of a shock if shes putting that much effort into it. And considering how fast shes turning out costumes it doesnt surprise me that shes picking it up faster then some other herp derp 16 yr old cosplayer who is doing this as a hobby.

[Anonymous No.7269910]

>>7269888
I follow her blog and it's pretty obvious she makes everything because the process is so clear, and if she didn't it would be a fucking ridiculous effort to fake it all for internet approval. Her costumes aren't that difficult to make, but she does common sense things like alter patterns and make mock-ups as well as put effort into proper finishing which makes it look amazingly polished. Also if she's taking classes and her mother is a seamstress it wouldn't surprise me if she improved so quickly. I'm self-taught and never took classes but you'd be amazed at the amount of information on the internet, as well as what you pick up from cgl.

[Anonymous No.7269916]

>>7269910
Or, now here me out, it's possible to watch someone complete a process and write the steps on a blog. I'm not downright saying that she contributes nothing, but it is highly probable that she has some help.

[Anonymous No.7269923]

>>7269910
THIS. Looking at the picture in >>7269888
most of those outfits are pretty simple of you break the down the outfits they would be what I consider "beginner." (Pleated skirts, princess seams, gathered circle skirts.) Also her Royal Tea whatever costume has elements like the bodice that too me scream someone that is learning because its not that great. All her recent "historical" stuff isnt historical at all. However she clearly does research because she posts pages from books that show how to do different techniques that shes tried out. Sure she might have someone who she can go to if shes stuck or taught her a couple of things but I would say what makes her so successful is the amount of organization, planning and research she puts into her outfits. I wish I was more like that when I was 16 and even now.

[Anonymous No.7269987]

>>7268171
JFC that looks terrible. I can't believe someone that goes on about how "horrible" another girl's cosplay is... does shitty work like THIS. I don't even know where the begin with what's inaccurate about her Meridah.

[Tim No.7270155]

>>7267301
fucking amped as fuck for delicious Kristoff cosplays. I'll take a Hans too. Also I feel like most of the Annas will be totes mcgotes cuties so I'm generally pretty optimistic for cosplay from this movie.

Dear god a lumberjack Kristoff though hnnngghhh

[Anonymous No.7270196]

>>7267422
not her, and my scanner isn't working, but i'll give you some of the photos i took of the book

if you guys think the quality is good enough i'll take requests

[Anonymous No.7270197]

>>7270196

[Anonymous No.7270200]

>>7270197

[Anonymous No.7270203]

>>7270200

[Anonymous No.7270204]

>>7270203
opps...looks like i didnt read the thread.
oh well, i hope this was still of help

[Anonymous No.7270205]

>>7269888
I learned to sew in 2 months. Made 4 full outfits in that time, granted I am nowhere near professional level and I make stupid mistakes sometimes but I had judges at a competition at a small con I randomly entered disqualify me for apparently lying about how long I had been sewing. I made a boned corset after a few months, but really technically knowing how to make a corset is different than having it look perfect. I'm proud of it since it was my first outfit but I don't understand how they thought I was lying, if you look at the bottom my bobbin decided to fuck up, my boning channels are uneven and there are so many places where the garment took a toll from me having to rip out seams 10 times in a row.
It's not unheard of but she is probably getting help. Things like making correct fabric choices, knowing to press her seams, correct ways to get the fit perfect are things easily learned, what would really show how new she is is how straight her topstitching is, how many holes there are from seam ripping, and how many puckers there are from odd alterations not fitting quite right.

[Anonymous No.7270557]

>>7267524
>not being the spitting image of a character instantly means you'll look like shit
I have found that most people who have this belief, like the girl in OP's pic, don't suit most of the characters they cosplay apart from a couple of hardly noticeable features that they blow out of proportion to feel good about themselves.

[Anonymous No.7270625]

>>7268171
errrrrrrrr Why that fabric? Why no linen?

[Anonymous No.7270668]

>>7270204
Thanks for posting! I was considering cosplaying him, and these will be a big help.

[Anonymous No.7270764]

>>7267301
That's the thing, Frozen WASN'T good enough. It wasn't god awful like tumblr wants you to believe but it was horribly mediocre and there was a lot that could have been done better.

[Anonymous No.7270780]

>>7267608
Im crying at this. I mean. JUST BUY SQUARE SHAPED ONED. FFS

[Anonymous No.7270794]

>>7270764
I enjoyed it a lot more than Merida, which I appreciated for the family values but the directing and pacing was really subpar. Frozen was much better, and I loved the song sequences which really flowed with the story. Only thing I didn't like was fucking Olaf's design, which from the artbook didn't change much at all. His character is very endearing but the art is so fucking ugly, but the trolls are dang cute.

Scrolling through the elsa cosplay tag on tumblr and it's fucking hilarious. I'm getting all sorts of 'dont's' from seeing other people's shit. This one girl spent 30 hours hand beading wonky inaccurate lines on her bodice and another's gluing chunky ass square rhinestones on.

[Anonymous No.7270812]

>>7270794
Brave was a much bigger let down than Frozen, but still Frozen, when looking at the art book, had so much potential. The ending was something that a Disney movie needed to do, but it was so horribly rushed and there was too much that wasn't explained.
Not to mention that the reveal with Hans was really unnecessary as it took away from what should have just been focusing on a sister-relationship.
Olaf was a fun character but holy shit his design. nonononono
The costume designs were gorgeous, and I'm probably one of the poor few that prefer's Elsa's coronation outfit over her Ice Queen one.
But if you do a rewatch through, if you weren't a main character it was as if there wasn't any lighting on you. The ballroom scene for instance.
Not to mention how they rendered the ice for Elsa's palace. It looked like cheap plastic. I understand the look they were going for but they really should have added some sort of texture, it would have made that scene simply stunning.
Also Elsa was literally just a plot device. We barely knew nothing about her, since the movie focused on Anna and Kristof. And I actually really enjoyed their character interactions but for a movie that was supposed to be focusing on Anna and Elsa, it just left a lot to be desired.

Sorry I work in animation, so Frozen just irks me. I'm glad people liked it, but I wish more people would acknowledge it's vast amount of short-comings.

[Anonymous No.7270826]

>>7270812
I hate Disney's 3D. It just looks sloppier and boring compared to drawn animation.

[Anonymous No.7270843]

>>7270826
They're trying to streamline their look I think. In the end everyone just winds up looking like a Barbie. I don't want to sound like tumblr sjw, but that's bullshit, when in an interview, they claimed how hard it is animating women in 3D, which is why all the girls look so same face.
Look at Dreamworks, they seem to be able to do it fine.

[Anonymous No.7270849]

>>7270843
I didn't get that either. It looks like they probably just recycled the model, which is fine because then it's like turning the model into an actress which I think works, but just say you did that it's obvious. My main problem with it is that they're trying to make them look like their cartoons, which doesn't work with a 3D model, they have to branch out and make it work for them because to me it screams lazy and uncanny valley.

[Anonymous No.7270912]

>>7270204
>>7270203
>>7270200
>>7270197
>>7270196
Thank you for posting them!

[Anonymous No.7270979]

sorry to bother but i was planning on making an anna inspired shirt or top but i was wondering if anyone had any close up pictures of the embroidery on the dress Anna wore for Elsa's coronation (the green dress). please and thank you

[Anonymous No.7270986]

>>7267301
Me again (art book and doll anon)! Okay, so scanning the art book is likely to ruin the book and/or the scanner, so I'll take some pictures of all the character pages (main outfits) instead.
If people want concept art and other outfits, please feel free to ask!
I apologise for the quality of the photos, I don't have the steadiest of hands. Or the best of cameras
To start, Anna

[Anonymous No.7270989]

>>7270986
Another one of Anna (traditional art style)

[Anonymous No.7270994]

>>7270989
More 'traditional' Anna. I really like this art. They've used it on some of the merchandise.

[Anonymous No.7271000]

>>7270994
>>7270989
They would have been so cute like this!

[Anonymous No.7271003]

>>7270994
Anna's coronation dress. This is the ONLY full-length image of it in the book.

[Anonymous No.7271009]

from ikkicon

[Anonymous No.7271015]

>>7271009
>dat slit
Ouch.

[Anonymous No.7271036]

>>7271000
I know, right! I've got both the mugs with this artwork on, and I'm going to pick up the storybook when I next see it (it's sold out everywhere).
>>7271003
A close up (sort of) of the detail on the corset of Anna's coronation dress. Note the detail on the back, so accuracy-loving cosplayers will have to sneak a zip in on one of the side seams.

[Anonymous No.7271044]

>>7271036
Another one of Anna's coronation corset, this time with flash. It's a clearer image, minus the big light patch.

[Anonymous No.7271050]

>>7271044
Concept art for Anna's boots. The notes say 'NO HEEL', 'embroidery on back, like her bodice' and 'NO cowboy boot!'

[Anonymous No.7271056]

>>7271050
Anna's travelling cape detail. The applique' stitching looks like backstitch and is the same colour of the cape, so it's meant to be noticeable. The pattern shapes are the same colour as the pompoms

[Anonymous No.7271058]

>>7271056
Anna in her green cape. Again, the only reference of it.

[Anonymous No.7271061]

>>7271056
>>7271050
For Christs sake, if you're going to post pictures of the art book can you not post blurry as fuck pictures?

If you don't want to scan the book it's fine, but if you want to post pictures at 'least use the pictures in this post. It's the art book scanned directly from /co/. >>7267477

[Anonymous No.7271063]

>>7271058
That's it for Anna, now for Hans. Sadly there's not much in the book for him, just lots of sketches of his face.

[Anonymous No.7271072]

>>7271061
Arg I didn't realise the pictures were that bad sorry!
People are probably better off using the stuff from >>7267477
My apologies.
>>7271063 A close up and slightly blurry photo of that one hans picture

[Anonymous No.7271080]

>>7271072
I hope one day I will see a cosplay of this guy.

[Anonymous No.7271094]

All my photos of Kristoph from the book are pretty bad (I took multiple ones that looked okay on the camera but awful on the computer. >>7270196
>>7270197
>>7270200
>>7270203
>>7270204
Got some good photos though!
I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of clothing references in the artbook, despite having a whole chapter dedicated to 'Costume Design'. Some of the alternative concept outfits are adorable though!
Only image of Elsa's Coronation dress.

[Anonymous No.7271101]

>>7271094
Elsa's Snow Queen dress.

[Anonymous No.7271115]

>>7271101
I tried to download the mediafire post from the above post so I could post the scans rather than my crap photos, but my laptop wasn't having any of it (the security freaked out).
This is Elsa's snowflake, that's meant to appear on everything she makes with her ice. It may be cute to include it in the cape design?

[Anonymous No.7271138]

>>7271115
This is my last art book post. Traditional Elsa.
I'm so sorry for how bad the photos turned out! I can try to take better ones another day if people want? If not, I hope you all have better luck with getting the /co/ scans to download!

[Anonymous No.7271320]

>>7271050

[Anonymous No.7271392]

Would this wig be good for elsa?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Long-Platinum-Blonde-Cosplay-Party-Straight-Wig-80cm-Y813-/181184879428?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a2f75db44

For her first outfit and obviously it would need a lot of styling, but I can't find a good color anywhere else.
This one looks a little too silver, opinions?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USJF141-charming-Long-Platinum-Blonde-Straight-hair-Wig-wigs-hairnet-/181035140674?pt=US_CSA_MWA_Wigs_Extensions&hash=item2a26890642

[Anonymous No.7271524]

psst, hey, remember the anon that actually posted a download to the ENTIRE artbook earlier in the thread? Instead of wasting our time with blurry images since you're too lazy to scan, and complaining about said blurry images just go download the fucking book.
Christ I'll post some of it myself right now.

[Anonymous No.7271530]

some of their inspiration for the film

[Anonymous No.7271534]

concept Anna vs. final in her coronation dress.
It would be cool to see some cosplay from the more traditionally accurate concept art.

[Anonymous No.7271537]

Same as the last, love both of them.
I went in the Disney store the other day and they sold those black boots to go with the Anna outfit. They were adorable with sequins and gold embroidery. Wish we had stuff at that level when we were little kids.

[Anonymous No.7271538]

>>7271537
I personally really like Anna's design on the right. I like that hair better and oh man that outfit shit I wanna make that.

[Anonymous No.7271539]

>>7271537
>dat redhead

[Anonymous No.7271540]

On the left is what I'm assuming is an alt design for Elsa's coronation gown.

[Anonymous No.7271545]

pretty important page.
Cute alt Anna outfit, also they talk about the fabric types.
That shit's wool

[Anonymous No.7271549]

alt Hans outfit

[Anonymous No.7271551]

Elsa

[Anonymous No.7271552]

>>7271551
another Elsa pic
close up on the shoe

[Anonymous No.7271557]

that's about it for outfits since Kristof's already been posted.
Just download the book, fools. It's very pretty.
While we're at it, anyone have a download for the Tangled art book?

[Anonymous No.7271565]

i have to say, i understand why disney is moving away from traditional animation, but i love the look of their concept sketches way more than the 3D style they've been using. it has more character and is so unique.

[Anonymous No.7271564]

Question for people making Elsa's ice dress: What are you planning to make the armpit cape out of and how are you finishing the edges?

I found some fabric I like, it's chiffon. I don't know if I want to trim the edges or just hem them. Trim might disrupt the "flow" if it's too stiff or heavy. What are you guys planning to do to tackle this?

[Anonymous No.7271734]

>>7271564
I have this shot of her sleeve, and I was planning on doing the same finish on the cape. Can anyone tell me what this technique is called? And can it be done on a serger?

[Anonymous No.7271776]

>>7268949
Her face just looks so darn weird from the side...

[Anonymous No.7271800]

>>7271734

It looks like a rolled hem, and yes, you need a serger or an overlocker to make one. Not sure how as I don't have one though.

[Anonymous No.7271843]

>>7268933
Whoa. Never would have thought of that, I'd naturally think an idea like that would look too dull and stupid but I see how this mimics what the animators have developed amazing

[Anonymous No.7271849]

>>7269888
so she was 16 in 2013?

btw what was that anime in the top left

[Anonymous No.7271869]

>>7271800
I'd say you can probably do it by hand. It'd be pretty time consuming but without a serger it's probably the best bet. I'll be joining you doing it that way anyway.

[Anonymous No.7271872]

>>7269888
I don't think it's that unbelievable. She has people she can turn to in shitty times for advice, and since she's said they're buying her supplies, she's already got more than enough to just go at it all she wants. Every time I make a new outfit I do things better than the last time, but I can't do that shit constantly because of money constraints, so progress is slow.
I'm sure if she's keeping her nose to the grindstone not having to worry about the financial cost of her mistakes, she CAN and has probably gotten that good at it.

[Anonymous No.7271874]

>>7271776
I thought that the entire film. I used to think that Rapunzel was a little freaky looking in the face, but then Frozen just made the eyes bigger and freakier. Still liked the movie, and still want to cosplay Anna, though.

[Anonymous No.7271924]

>>7270557

whoa, you're right.
How did I not ever notice this before.

[Anonymous No.7271952]

I don't think anyone posted these. Close up detail of Elsa's coronation cape and necklace/cape clasp.

[Anonymous No.7271953]

>>7271952
Unused Elsa outfits.

[Anonymous No.7271955]

>>7271953
That hair...

[Anonymous No.7271957]

>>7271955
Her hair concept on the right is weird but the outfit looks neat, I wish there were a full view of it.

[Anonymous No.7271959]

>>7271957
If anyone wants to cosplay this guy lol

[Anonymous No.7271960]

>>7271959
Unused Anna and Snow Queen designs.

[Anonymous No.7272077]

>>7271960
thats not anna, thats their mother
and >>7271953
IS anna, not elsa

[Anonymous No.7272128]

>>7272077
They obviously didn't read the notes on each page - it mentions who each character is.


It's interesting that the Queen (mother) and Elsa are basically recolors. They changed eye shape and "eyeliner" a but still, I'd agree with other Anons saying that the Disney approach to 3D characters loses a lot of individuality, though we all "get" why they are doing 3D.

[Anonymous No.7272494]

I would never have guessed in a thousand years that the 2D concept art was so charming and pretty, considering how ugly and downsy looking the final characters are. WTF Disney, you cannot into 3D.

[Anonymous No.7272567]

I don't suppose anyone has found any screen caps/designs of Anna's ending outfit? The green dirndl-looking one? I really want to make it, but I haven't had any luck sourcing some reference images of it.

[Anonymous No.7274325]

Anyone have wig suggestions? I was looking at Arda's new Suzi wig but it's so layered in the back it's going to be a bitch to braid with all the shorter pieces sticking out etc. They're supposed to have the actual Tauriel wig with no layers out in mid February. The other thing with Arda wigs is that they tend to be too big for me, so even though that's a specialty style... I don't know how fit will be.

Is it worth waiting for the Tauriel, given possible size issues, or should I find something else? Suggestions on what else will work?
I wish I could try it on to decide.

[Anonymous No.7274368]

>>7274325
I can't advise on whether to choose the Suzi or Tauriel, but I will state that a lacefront is the only option that'll give you Elsa's hairline without looking cheap.

The sizing issue shouldn't be an issue? Just adjust the hooks to fit snugly, and if the hairline's too wide, just take time to fill it in before cutting the lace back. Or if you want it to fit your head exactly, there are a couple tutorials in Arda's list on how to resize wigs
>http://arda-wigs.com/blogs/tutorials/7958661-re-sizing-a-jeannie-malinda-or-jasmine-smaller
>http://arda-wigs.com/blogs/tutorials/7959725-re-sizing-a-chibi-smaller

[Anonymous No.7274423]

>>7274368
Hm, thanks for the ideas. I guess I can try and be brave and use the resizing tutorials, I just would hate to buy the lace front wigs and fuck it up because they're pricey.

I know I'd have to hand ventilate the slight widows peak if I got a different brand which isn't hard, just time consuming. Hm, I'll have to do some more research to see which is the best for me.

[Anonymous No.7274616]

New LE dolls! Anna's normal clothes and Elsa's coronation dress.
They're both so pretty, I'd love to see cosplays that incorporate some of the doll's designs!
(Available to pre-order on January 10th in the US!)

[Anonymous No.7274666]

>>7274616
Funnily enough I had been debating doing Anna's skirt this way.

[Anonymous No.7276310]

>>7274666
Me too! I think it's much nicer than having it all one piece

[Anonymous No.7276455]

I have platinum blonde hair that's quite thick but not really long enough, was thinking of getting extensions or half-wig gyaru-style because I don't want to deal with ventilating. Anyone got reputable online source for getting clip-in extensions? Human hair preferred, but mix is alright too I guess since it's just for cosplay.

[Anonymous No.7276503]

>>7276455
Why wouldn't you go with a lace-front wig? You can trim the hairline into a slight widows peak if you want too. Plus style once-wear whenever you want. I foresee the styling on the front of her hair deflating throughout the day if you use your real hair.

[Anonymous No.7276847]

>>7276455
I'm doing this too. Remy human hair is good, but I don't think it's thick enough, you would need 2 packs and that would be quite expensive. You can go to ghetto hair shops and they will sometimes have platinum blonde extensions. I got really lucky and found a pack with a ton of wefts.

[Anonymous No.7276852]

>>7276847
Also depending on how light your hair is you may have a hard time finding human hair that is light enough, but if you get human hair, you can bleach it further, and tone it. I did that with my Remy extensions. Almost everything I ever find is too dark, no matter what it looks like or how it's described, but I'm about a step above white hair. Also, I think doctoredlocks has some good synthetic hair wefts.

[Anonymous No.7276955]

supernovadobe made an elsa wig tutorial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiQF3UW5y4M

[Anonymous No.7276960]

>>7276955
The front looks good but the braid isn't nearly thick enough.

[Anonymous No.7278316]

>>7276955
>>7276960
Using a Jareth for Elsa seems wrong, is that why the braid's so thin? The top of the wig looks super static as well, needs some motion.

[Anonymous No.7278543]

I have the Anna doll in her and have taken some pictures of it, hope it'll help people with their cosplays. Sorry in advance for the blurriness due to a shit camera!

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[Anonymous No.7278627]

>>7271540
Those are actually alt. designs for Anna.

[Anonymous No.7278641]

>>7272567
Same here Anon!

[Anonymous No.7278646]

>>7271392
late response but please use a lacefront wig for elsa since she has a visible hairline. lockshop has a good one.

[Anonymous No.7278801]

>>7268983
Is it a fact that it is Norwegian rather than Nordic? (swefag who's kinda annoyed that this norwegian gurl is claming it as theirs.)

[Katsumiyo !pGNZlskXEI No.7278816]

>>7278801
Disney is sponsoring a sweepstakes vacation to Norway and stated that it was the country that (mostly) inspired Frozen. They visited lots of different countries, but from what I've read, Norway was the main inspiration. I could be wrong, but that's what I remember reading.

[Anonymous No.7278855]

>>7267109
Wow I actually know this person
I'm just imagining now all the judging I'm getting for my large ass eagle nose.

[Anonymous No.7278868]

>>7278816
another swedish seagull here
the movie hasn't even been released in the cinemas yet here in Sweden, which is freaking ridiculus!!!