/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

[Anonymous No.7226681]

hey /cgl/ wondering where I can buy some good Mori Girl clothes

[Anonymous No.7226705]

I personally love this Taobao shop. I'm hoping to make an order sometime soon of their stuff. ---> http://forestgirlfans.taobao.com/index.htm?spm=2013.1.w5002-179981959.2.StxLoH

[Anonymous No.7226717]

>>7226705
Thanks! I've been looking forward into getting into this style! I've been wanting too for a long time. I've been wanting to dress more girly (I'm kind of a tomboy)

[Anonymous No.7226721]

>>7226705
Do they ship overseas? Can I translate the page?

[Anonymous No.7226728]

>>7226681
mori is so much more about shapes and textures than print or brand, so i'd try your local thift and/or consignment stores, ma'am. you can hand-make accessories yourself, or find lots on etsy.

[Anonymous No.7226733]

>>7226705
Ohmygod I love everything RIP wallet

[Anonymous No.7226735]

i also have collected a few polyvores that lean more toward witch mori, if anyone's interested!

[Anonymous No.7226739]

>>7226728
I have tried making my own jewelry before and I enjoyed it! I haven't done it in a while, but I have wanted to get back into it!

[Anonymous No.7226742]

>>7226721
You're going to need a shopping agent to order from Taobao (in other words you can't buy directly from them). Check out the Taobao thread for more info on ordering through them. -- >>7221975

Like >>7226728 said - thrifting is a good idea & etsy. It's easy to replicate a lot of moro looks that way.

More cute mori items ----> http://shop106424324.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.d3.TntVsv

[Anonymous No.7226745]

*and time for a mori photo dump because there just isn't enough of it on cgl*

[Anonymous No.7226758]

Another shop ---> http://shop58188486.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.d3.Krrpdb

[Anonymous No.7226771]

>>7226735
doing it anyway~

[Anonymous No.7226766]

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[Anonymous No.7226772]

>>7226771

[Anonymous No.7226777]

>>7226772

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[Anonymous No.7226791]

And another. Dear god I love their scarves. --> http://o2lady.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.d3.qWgVrn

[Anonymous No.7226799]

>>7226786
Hehe. Someone likes their dark mori.

[Anonymous No.7226803]

[Anonymous No.7226824]

I love mori. So elegant, pretty, and looks really comfy!

[Anonymous No.7226825]

[Anonymous No.7226826]

>>7226799
done right it can look like gypsy goof ninja!

[Anonymous No.7226834]

>>7226824
It looks hellah fucking comfy. Proves you can be comfy and not in sweats & still feminine. I really wish I had more mori in my wardrobe.

[Anonymous No.7226850]

Cute shop but a bit more natural kei IMO. ---> http://litongxue.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.d3.RZMBXr

[Anonymous No.7226870]

>>7226784
a hangar

[Anonymous No.7227526]

>>7226705
I bought 2 of their dresses and a cardigan, in case anyone wants a review.

[Anonymous No.7227554]

>>7227526
Question from a newbie here.

I've recently figured out that the overall aesthetic and colors of mori look really god damn good on me, so I'm trying to get into it.

What are some specific things I should keep my eye out for when I go thrifting?

Also, what are some things I can search for when shopping online? Specific styles of dresses and skirts, materials, etc.

I don't really like taobao because I never have enough to make a big order, so it's not really worth it for me.

[Anonymous No.7227555]

>>7227526
Please do, post pictures too if you can

[Anonymous No.7227567]

>>7227554
Oops. Sorry, didn't mean to link.

[Anonymous No.7227574]

>>7227554
The best thing to do is just look at other mori girls, maybe have some pictures on hand while you're out shopping and find things with a similar look. It's not really much more complicated than that.

I haven't shopped online for mori ever since you can actually build a wardrobe secondhand with a lot of patience and time, but but searching for cardigans, tunics, sweaters, and maxi skirts could all yield good results depending on where you look. Go for natural fabrics cotton, wool, hemp, etc and sometimes it can be tempting to go for solid prints but make sure to get some patterns in there too, mori may look kind of dingy and worn but there's a distinct quirk about it too.

Hippie stores can sometimes carry easily mori-able items, especially long skirts. I've seen a lot of really cute outfits with shorter skirts lately too so that makes it easier to shop at stores now. Just make sure nothing is too form fitting (avoid words like "bodycon" and "pencil skirt" when shopping online, for example).

sorry for the novel, I hope that helped a little and wasn't too mori 101?

[Anonymous No.7227582]

>>7226705
This is kind of a dumb question but does ¥ 59.00 really mean 7 euro? It just seems really cheap, am I converting wrong?
First time using taobao by the way.

[Anonymous No.7227586]

>>7227582
Taobao is cheap. Just make sure you're converting from Yuan, not Yen which it sounds like you are.
>capthca uable blessss

[Anonymous No.7227590]

>>7227586
no idea what happened to my spelling there.

[Anonymous No.7227593]

>>7227586
Thanks for the reply, but yeah defenitelly converting from Chinese Yuan, using the chome plugin

[Anonymous No.7227596]

These clothes look so cute, but I have a bigger bust and fear that won't look good since it will make me look bigger than I am...

[Anonymous No.7227608]

>>7227596
This is my fear too anon, otherwise I'd be all over it.

[Anonymous No.7227628]

>>7227555
It's these three:
item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27189820204
item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=26645824404
item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=23428924854
Are you interested in all three? I'll probably only get around to doing photos tomorrow or the day after, though.

[Anonymous No.7227801]

Be honest with me, would this style work with someone short and chubby? My chest is also fairly large.

[Anonymous No.7227824]

>>7227801
I think it should be fine. My picture I wouldn't quite call mori, but it's at least mori-inspired and I think she looks fine.

[Anonymous No.7227859]

>>7227824
Oh you're so lovely !

[Anonymous No.7228970]

Postin some mori

[Anonymous No.7228971]

[Anonymous No.7228977]

>>7226705
I...also want everything from that store.

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[Anonymous No.7228979]

>>7228971
The image that should be here is quite nice! The image glitching is happening a lot more often it seems.

[Melvarkie No.7228985]

>>7227801
Sorry for the selfpost, but I think it can work. I am only 1.55 m. My mom needed to make the dress slightly shorter, but I think anyone can wear mori girl.

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[Anonymous No.7228991]

My favorite mori boy. I would wear this.

[Anonymous No.7229012]

>>7227582
It does look ridiculously cheap, but keep shipping, shopping service costs and customs in mind. I live in Holland and our customs are unfortunately high, but when I order from Taobao I can generally count in having to pay twice the listed price in the end.

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[Anonymous No.7229027]

I'm redirecting my mori question to this board. I'm new to mori and while I have built up a fairly good wardrobe from thrifting I can never seem to find the flowy linen/lace dresses that are often worn underneath. Does anyone know where I can get these type of dresses or have patterns for them? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.7229033]

does anyone know of any western shops that sell mori-type clothing?

[Anonymous No.7229035]

>>7229027
I usually either thrift them or make them myself. Other people probably buy them off Taobao.

[Anonymous No.7229269]

I'm surprised there isn't a mori craft compilation or blog or something, i see a lot of DIY potential with the style and lots of tutorials for things that could be used in the style.

[Anonymous No.7230028]

>>7229269
Someone made one, search "mori girl crafts" on Google and it should be the second result. I don't do any kind of crafting, though, so I'm not sure how good it is.

[Anonymous No.7230338]

>>7229033
Anthropologie and Free People and other hippy dippy stores have mori-able clothes, though most western stores follow a western-natural style, so it's not exactly the same as stuff you'd find in taobao.

[Anonymous No.7230367]

>>7230028
look at zakka magazines or other japanese sewing mags. It's not as much drapey-curtain-mori as it is the more 'regular' clothing, if you know what I mean (like the kind Yuu Aoi wears?) but it's layerable and loose-fitting.

[Anonymous No.7230924]

>>7227526

How is the quality?

[Anonymous No.7230943]

>where can I buy mori girl clothes

every fucking thrift store in the world. it's super cheap, super easy, and looks way more authentic then shitty brand names.

[Anonymous No.7230949]

>>7230943
mori is the fashion of homeless people.
layers layers layers.
sturdy boots.
zing.

[Anonymous No.7231063]

>>7230943
Agreed. I really don't like coords that are made up entirely of clothes all bought from the same Taobao store. To me, it's like the mori equivalent of wearing a full brand set in lolita.

[Anonymous No.7231397]

>>7226834
>http://shop58188486.taobao.com/?spm=2013.1.1000126.d3.Krrpdb
I want this entire outfit! Looks like onepi-c on rakuten, is it?

[Anonymous No.7231432]

Every piece of clothing I own (and I'm a hardcore mori girl) has been thrifted, and sometimes altered. Used to work at a fabric store, bought a whole bunch of lace. yaay. And I've always loved big comfy sweaters and floppy knit hats and scarves.

[Anonymous No.7232285]

>>7230924
>>7227555
Review of >>7226705.

Mediafire folder with more photos: http://www.mediafire.com/?9fly77ek3jun3

All in all I'm quite happy with what I got.

1) item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=26645824404
White dress with beige lace.
Main fabric is very thin and gauzy cotton. Hasn't ripped yet, but I've only worn it a couple of times so far. Same fabric is used as lining. The unlined sleeves are rather transparent, the dress itself is lined and almost opaque, but a black bra would still show through.
Lace is thick, soft cotton.
On the underskirt there's a 5 cm stripe of thin netting between the OK lining and the nice lace. Looks kind of weird - about 2 cm of it peek out from under the main skirt.
Lots of loose threads, but no seams are coming apart.
Fits a petticoat really nicely.

[Anonymous No.7232289]

Cont'd.

2) item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=23428924854
Axes Femme replica JSK.
Main fabric: polyester chiffon, feels OK. Gorgeous flocking print, crisp and detailed, feels lush. Lining: ugly cheap shiny polyester with a flounce of main fabric covered with thin netting.
Lace: Thin and terrible. Doesn't even match the colour of the dress (white VS cream). Also, they use a strip of netting as lace on top of the bodice. Thankfully, it's not at all prominent - it's only on the removable straps and under the bodice, where it's covered by a strip of netting.
Ribbon: Velvet, one-sided but nice looking.
Some loose threads.
The dress itself can fit a dozen petticoats (like the other dress, it's really generous with the fabric), but the lining is very narrow, maybe 100 cm in circumference.

3) item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=27189820204
Polka dot cropped bolero.
IT STINKS. The stink should go away soon as I give it a wash, though.
The knit fabric is nice, though I can't tell what it's made of. The crochet edging is really nice, made of a shimmering mercerised cotton. Sadly, it's offwhite whereas the polkadots are white. Because of the shimmer it's hardly noticeable, though.
The polkadots are made with some sort of stiff fabric paint, might show cracking in the future.
The buttons are sewn on securely, the seams are clean and nice.

[Anonymous No.7232307]

>>7226681
That girl looks a lot like my ex, that's kind disturbing.

[Anonymous No.7232313]

Too tall for all these cute taobao shops so I think I am going to try making a few skirts and stuff over the holidays. Probably go thrifting too.
The store are still good inspiration I guess...
I still wish the sweaters wouldn't hit at my belly button.

[Anonymous No.7232332]

Do you guys have any summer mori shop? Every shop i looked up in taobao has lots of winter clothes..

[Anonymous No.7232339]

>>7232332
Same shops, wait till it's in season.
Sorry, that's really all you can do other than check the sales section for out of season stuff.

[Anonymous No.7232386]

>>7232289
I didn't know there was a market for axes femme replicas, the real thing runs so cheap secondhand.

[Anonymous No.7233340]

>>7229012
I checked out the Taobao topic and it would've been much more expensive indeed. I found the same clothes on Aliexpress and ordered from there because it was about the same price and easier to order :)

[Anonymous No.7233346]

>>7230943
>>7230949
>>7231063
>>7231432
I know you all say that and I know this sounds very spoiled but I really hate the idea of having clothes that someone wore before me

[Anonymous No.7235895]

>>7232386
I was kind of surprised too. Maybe they're factory extras instead of replicas? Whatever they are, Taobao is full of them.

[Anonymous No.7235982]

I'm wondering if anyone has any links or suggestions to what kind of hair accessories would look cute in mori.

I have long hair but I prefer it to be in an updo or in braids. Pic related is what I have been doing for most of my coords. It's just super boring now.

[Anonymous No.7235999]

>>7233346
that's pretty wasteful, anon. mori aesthetic calls for a return to the old country, where natural fabrics and lifestyles are preferred. (i am not saying mori is a lifestyle, haha, but the clothes themselves invoke greenness, definitely.)
it's not like you can't wash them or have to buy used underclothes or anything like that, but it's pretty rewarding to find a nice piece of clothing in a thrift store; it's like hunting for treasure!

[Anonymous No.7236014]

>>7235999
Especially if it's stuff from the 60's that no one's worn in years.

I bought a kind of long coat that was made with crochet in a color perfect for mori, for only 7 dollars. Buying something like that off ebay brand new would have cost probably 4 times the amount.

Not to mention it's in a design that's uncommon now.

[Anonymous No.7237044]

>>7235982
Crochet flowers. Super easy to make yourself, or buy them off Ebay. Put them on hairpins and stick them into your updo. Add some lace and dangle smaller flowers off a bigger one if you want to be more elaborate.

[Anonymous No.7237184]

>>7229033
http://ohyeahmorigirl.tumblr.com/shoplist

[Anonymous No.7237851]

[Anonymous No.7237972]

>>7226766
i like the asymmetrical cut on the bottom of that sweater

[Anonymous No.7237988]

>>7237851
ahhh i love this, it's like the child of mori and lolita, exactly what i want to wear.

[Anonymous No.7238677]

Yo other tall girls.
I just realized looking up vintage night gowns are a treasure trove of those cute dress covers in plenty of sizes.

[Anonymous No.7241004]

bumpan

[Anonymous No.7241034]

I always buy mori girl clothes in rakuten (Japan's biggest internet shopping site)

[Anonymous No.7242311]

>>7241034
i haven't bought from rakuten, but i'm thinking about buying some stuff soon. i was just wondering, you can buy directly from them right? or do you need an ss like taobao?

[Anonymous No.7242322]

What would you all consider a "basic" mori wardrobe?

I'm going to be putting in a pretty big taobao order and already plan on buying quite a bit of stuff from dearli, but I'm worried that I won't have enough of the basics to really layer enough and wear it often.

[Anonymous No.7242343]

Hey, maybe the mori thread would know better.
Is Dearli's model really also the owner and designer?

[Anonymous No.7242419]

>>7242311
You can buy directly from them. Rakuten Global. I've done it several times from Onepi-c, Osharewalker and when W-closet had a global account. http://global.rakuten.com/en/

[Anonymous No.7242525]

hey just saw this on ebay, under $50. pop those ugly roses off and it'd make a pretty bangin' base layer
"VINTAGE 1980S IVORY LACE ROSETTE DETAIL VICTORIAN EDGE CAPED MAXI DRESS"

[Anonymous No.7242526]

>>7242525
The watermark says 2TryHard. What kind of name is that for a business?

[Anonymous No.7242700]

>>7242526
The best name ever

Or something, I don't know.......

I really want to try mori style so I've been collecting small amounts of stuff the last few months. Am I on the right track? I've got a few other incidentals like a lace cardigan to start with but all my pics are stock photos of "similar" stuff.

[Anonymous No.7243353]

Are there any active mori comms? I tried google but every single one I find is dead.

[Anonymous No.7243388]

>>7242700
This looks like a good start, anon!

>>7242322
What are you getting from Dearli?

[Anonymous No.7243390]

Any moris in Finland? I saw one in Pasila one day and was too awkward to compliment her outfit, it was really nice... Still ronery

[Anonymous No.7243434]

>>7242322
Basicly a vintage wardrobe with tons of DIY and knit accessories.

[Anonymous No.7243441]

>>7243353
The only active site is the fanbook page morigirlclothing.

[Anonymous No.7243446]

>>7243434
I meant more like, what would a basic wardrobe look like in terms of items.
For example, as a lolita, you would want a plain dress, a skirt, a fancier dress, petticoats, a few different types of blouses, a jacket, a go-to bag, etc.
I'm still working on my taobao image collage, but I'll post it in a while. I already have some mori type stuff (thrifted free people and vintage sort of stuff), but I want to expand my mori wardrobe so that I can really wear it.

[Anonymous No.7243467]

>>7243446
For basics I'd start with, a few maxi dresses, big sweaters, tights and over the knee socks,a few blouses. I always love finishing things off with a knit scarf and a nice cardigan.

for shoes always boots and booties for me.

[Anonymous No.7243483]

>>7243446
Lolita is formulaic in a way that mori isn't. People ask this question all the time and rarely get answers because there's nothing that's explicitly required in mori and we can't read their minds and know how exactly they want to dress. For me, I felt like my wardrobe was fleshed out when I had a lot of cute jumpers, cardigans, long skirts, hats and scarves, mori-appropriate jewelry and shoes, etc., etc. (though I really need more sweaters, I think), but I like the understated approach and people who are into a more OTT aesthetic might want a lot of underskirts to layer with or a variety of cute socks and tights or whatever. Some people might even want to have pants instead of dresses or skirts. When you look at your wardrobe or go to make a mori coordinate, what's the missing thing that stops you from feeling like it's complete? I think that'll help you to narrow down what you need.

[Anonymous No.7243600]

So this is all of the stuff I plan to buy from dearli.
I was also going to get one of their big, puffy coats, but the colourway I want is out of stock.

I also am buying things from a few other shops, such as cheaper cardigans, more skirts, stockings, etc.

[Anonymous No.7244190]

Alright, today I went thrifting to try and begin a mori wardrobe, but I'm pretty lost. How do I avoid looking like a grandma? What is 'good' in terms of collared shirts? I prefer the 'dark mori' look so I'll probably try and have a a lot of black and dark greens and beiges as my base colors.
I'm so used to the formulated, rules-oriented lolita. But mori is way more practical for everyday. Anyway, mainly I'm having issues finding tops. I have a couple skirts that work already, and understand the layering concept for skirts pretty well. But tops? No. I don't get it. Thanks, guys.

[Anonymous No.7244949]

Why is that so many westerners seem to half-ass mori and end up looking like frumpy old ladies?
The mori tag is always a fucking mess.

[Anonymous No.7244956]

>>7244949
>frumpy old ladies
Actually, this IS what mori looks like, you maybe should have a look at the japanese Spoon magazine.

[Anonymous No.7244963]

>>7244956
No, they always manage to look cute or at least put together. I'm talking about looks like this, where it seems there was minimal thought for the aesthetic.

Maybe not old lady-like, but just not put together enough.

[Anonymous No.7244970]

>>7244949
That's what I want to avoid. It's there but it's not quite there.

[Anonymous No.7244981]

>>7244956
If you're seeing frumpy old lady, you're seeing shit coords. A lot of people think earthy colours+long skirt+scarf=mori, without really taking into account the way things may drape on them. Half of the look is draping and layers, so if you're broader than your average Japanese person, and try to compensate by just making the clothing bigger, you're going to look less like a forest fairy, and more like a bag lady.

[Anonymous No.7244988]

>>7244981
That's what I'm saying, though. Why do many westerners think it's okay to throw on that shit and call it mori as opposed to making decent coords?

[Anonymous No.7244999]

>>7244981
Like said before, look at the Spoon magazine and then come back again, the scan you posted is from Moeurs, an manga fashion book.

[Anonymous No.7245010]

>>7244999
This is not what most western coords look like. I've read spoon.

[Anonymous No.7245157]

>>7245010
This looks bag lady like too anon.

[Anonymous No.7245165]

>>7226786
LOL I follow her on tumblr and even though she has amazing style I think she really dislikes morigirl so it's pretty funny to see her posted on a mori girl thread.

non-volerli-vittime is her tumblr and her selfies tag has a lot of really great inspiration on it tho i don't think she seems to care for japanese street style at all

[Anonymous No.7245716]

>>7245157
They're not bag lady level, imo.
Also, these are actually layered, put-together coordinates, not just like "oh, i threw on a beige cardigan and a brown maxi skirt, so mori! hehe"

[Anonymous No.7245794]

>>7244963
She needs more covering her neck and the belt is stupid, but other than that, I've seen worse. If she just fixed a couple things, she'd have a perfectly nice simple coord.

[Anonymous No.7246984]

I wish I could convince my boyfriend to dress like this.

[Anonymous No.7249701]

>>7246984
I'm a male. I live in the Pacific Northwest and I'd love to dress mori. But it's really hard for boys to dress mori. The clothes are hard to find and there are few style guides. It doesn't help that I don't want to wear a costume, I just want to have mori accents that say this is what I am.

[Anonymous No.7249724]

>>7249701
I think the photo you're replying to is a good way to do that.
The guy is really just wearing jeans, boots, and a cardigan with some scarves and pelts. You could easily incorporate earth tones and maybe a few mori brooches/pins and whatnot into your outfit and have it look nice. I think it really just requires layering and a solid (as in good) colour palette.

While I don't think the looks on this blog are "mori" enough for my tastes, I think they're a good startin point.
moriboy.tumblr.com

[Anonymous No.7251639]

Bump for more mori. I'm making a big aliexpress order pretty excited. Anyone have ideas for short hair styles?

[Anonymous No.7251673]

Links to good western Mori blogs/ mori girls?

[Anonymous No.7251758]

>>7251673
yes please preferably people who post their own coords.

[Anonymous No.7251776]

I'm looking into mori too but it gets 90+ degrees here in the summer.... Any ideas for summer style? Anything more than two layers and the humidity kills.

[Anonymous No.7251799]

>>7251776
I'm planning for summer already.I'm gonna post the stuff I'm getting from aliexpress for summer. Getting this pink top.

[Anonymous No.7251947]

>>7251639
I'm hoping to get my hair cut soon and YUKI is my big inspiration at the moment.

[Anonymous No.7251950]

>>7251639
>>7251947
Kodama Masumi (児玉益美) is also a really popular short-haired mori girl.

[Anonymous No.7252175]

>>7242343
If so, I can't contain all the jelly I have. Even if she isn't I love all of their photoshoots, so inspiring.

[Anonymous No.7252370]

>>7251799
Ok cool, so now I got is lacey overlays....

I am just starting trying to do mori (mostly because I like the lifestyle/mentality behind it). This style is really hard for me... I am an hourglass, so if I find something that is loose and hangs on my boobs, then I look like I'm 200lbs (bag lady style) unless I accentuate my waist somehow.

I love love love this style but I want to look like a foresty person not someone who wears pillowcases.

So I'm having a hard time finding things that go together when they are *on* me.

So far all I can guess to do is wear a fitted shirt, then overlay a crop lace half shirt or long sheer "vest". I feel like there is more though.

....um I guess that was a vent.

[Anonymous No.7252375]

>>7252370
Forgot to mention I was having a hard time because too much layering will kill me in summer

[Anonymous No.7252400]

>>7252370
You can wear belts with mori, you know. Also, wearing dresses with little drawstring waist cinchers and then layering lacey cardigans and shawls over them (and maybe a longer skirt under) is always an option.

My advice would be to look at as much inspiration (via tumblr, spoon, mori shops, etc.) and think about what would work with your wardrobe/body.
Mori doesn't really have a defined silhouette, although I think plenty of outfits end up looking a bit boxy/baggy. Your body type really doesn't put you at any more of a disadvantage than my super straight body type does.

Pic is intended to illustrate the waist-cinching style dress I mentioned earlier.

[Anonymous No.7252403]

>>7252400
This doesn't look mori...

[Anonymous No.7252420]

>>7252403
Looks pretty mori to me.
It is playing up the colorful "ethnic" vibe, but the layering and patterns are all pretty mori, imo.

[Anonymous No.7252429]

>>7252400
Thanks anon. I guess my frustration comes from the fact that I have *just* learned to dress my body type with regular clothes, and now I have no idea what to do with a completely different style since the same rules don't apply.

[Anonymous No.7252430]

>>7252420
Coloring and patterns are really important to mori though. The layering is one thing but it doesn't have the right vibe.

[Anonymous No.7252439]

>>7252429
Please *stop* doing *this*.

[Anonymous No.7252442]

>>7252439
*no* and I hope it bothers you *more*

[Anonymous No.7252443]

>>7252430
I don't see what's wrong with them, really, so long as they're balanced out with more neutral tones in the outerwear or something.
If dark mori is a thing, I don't see why this can't be. It kind of reminds me spring flowers or autumn leaves. I think the yellow/red combo is a bit overwhelming here, though.

[Anonymous No.7252452]

>>7229016
Is that an Innocent World JSK?

[Anonymous No.7252463]

>>7227824
FAT

[Anonymous No.7252467]

Can anyone help me find any dresses similar to that button-up dress from taobao? I looked and looked but I can't find anything that isn't too waisted or doesn't look like an oversized shirt.
Pic related, sorry about the size.

[Anonymous No.7252472]

Why don't I see a lot of leather goods in Mori?

[Anonymous No.7252485]

>>7252472
Depends on the leather. I've seen a lot of leather bags and shoes in mori, and I think shearling coats could do quite well with the style. Other types, like leather jackets and pants not so much.

[Anonymous No.7252492]

>>7252463
No! Go away! Shoo!

[Anonymous No.7252498]

There are a lot of mori items on storenvy, and I'm sure most are taobao resellers.

Side note - Does anyone have experience with storenvy? I'm wary due to the lack of a feedback system

[Anonymous No.7252501]

>>7252443
The colors in the photo you posted here are much more subdued, I think that having some fallish tones is alright, but anything too dark just seems too much.

[Anonymous No.7252504]

>>7252501
I wasn't using that photo as anything other than contribution to the thread.
What I was saying about "dark mori" is that people often bring it up/label dark, layered outfits with a fairly mori aesthetic as "dark mori." If that is a thing, I don't see why using many characteristics of mori with brighter splashes of colour can't be a thing.

>>7252498
I've bought a few things successfully off of store envy, mostly from artists. Look up reviews of the shop or person via google or tumblr before you buy. Then, always pay with paypal so that you can file a claim if you need to.

I would avoid taobao resellers as they're usually way overpriced and it's harder to hold them accountable than it is an SS.

[Anonymous No.7252693]

I really like cute/quirky hats in mori.

[Anonymous No.7252828]

I'm a little annoyed by this idea people have that mori can't use brighter colors. >>7252400 is fine, it falls within the ethnic clothing aspect mentioned in the mori girl checklist if you really need a rule to back it up.

[Anonymous No.7252834]

>>7252828
I don't know where some people got this idea from either. It's obvious in magazine scans that brighter colors aren't anything new.

[Anonymous No.7252846]

What do you guys think of this girl? As far as Western mori kei blogs go, I think she posts some pretty ok coords compared to all the other shit I've seen in the tags. http://lsayaku.tumblr.com/

[Anonymous No.7252856]

>>7252846
They're okay, but anyone can buy clothes from one shop and put them on the same way they were styled on the model. I don't really see any coordinating ability or creativity there.

[Anonymous No.7252897]

>>7252846
>>7252856
From what I can see so far, she looks a damn sight better than some of the attempts at mori girl I've seen in the tag. Doesn't look frumpy or like a bag lady, nice layering. She lists different sources for her items so not sure what the 'all from one shop' thing is about. Also I find her posts quite useful for seeing how certain Taobao items look and fit.

[Anonymous No.7252905]

>>7252856
But it looks like she actually does think about her cords and isn't just buying everything from one shop.

I really like the cap she's wearing.

[Anonymous No.7252947]

if you dont happen to live in an area that has decent thrift finds, you can always search ebay.
i copped this skirt on there recently and plan on combining it with another
i'm really excited about it, there's actually a lot of good finds on ebay if you're willing to dig around!

[Anonymous No.7252965]

>>7252947
What do you put in the search to bring up stuff like this?

[Anonymous No.7252990]

>>7252965
i use a lot of different searches
for this i used crochet skirt and weeded through stuff until i found this
normally i have an idea in mind and just try to simplify it as much as i can
other key words to add to your search:
boho, gypsy, hippy, patchwork, etc.
just try to boil it down as much as possible to get the most out of your search
if you dont want to wait or risk getting bad product, i would suggest narrowing clothing searches down to your region as there's a lot of china sellers who make questionable quality clothing via ebay. (accessories are ok though)
i'll dump some mori - related ebay finds if anyone's interested.

[Anonymous No.7252996]

>>7252947
you could also learn to crochet this. It looks impressive and like it'd take a long time, but it really wouldn't be, since it's open work.

[Anonymous No.7252995]

>>7252897
>>7252905
Almost all of her links go to Cawaii. I guess it's just my opinion, but every time I look at one of her coords, I feel like I've already seen it on a Taobao model in better lighting. Nothing of interest for me personally.

I'm in love with most of the coords on Cats In Straw Hats and I have my fingers crossed for her to start wearing mori regularly again.

[Anonymous No.7253034]

>>7252995
Her coord is also copied straight from the taobao store that sells that dress. The models wear white cardigans and same style and color shoes.

[Anonymous No.7253076]

>>7253034
Eh. Her outfits are 90% thrifted and vintage, including the dress, which is my personal taste in mori. The shoes are the only thing directly from a mori-related brand.

Are there any other mori girls people in this thread are into? I like some of shortcuttothestars' outfits but her style seems to fluctuate a lot.

[Anonymous No.7253087]

>>7252990
yas do it

[Anonymous No.7253092]

>>7253076
Holy crap I love that dress

[Anonymous No.7253100]

>>7253076
oh, this is lovely

[Anonymous No.7253105]

ok here we goooo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ivory-Crocheted-Knit-Shawl-/221316684813?pt=US_Scarves_Wraps&hash=item3387809c0d

ivory shawl - $13.50 USD (free ship)

[Anonymous No.7253109]

>>7253105

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beige-Crocheted-Triangle-Shawl-/321265384773?pt=US_Scarves_Wraps&hash=item4acce8bd45

beige shawl - $18 USD (free ship)

[Anonymous No.7253115]

>>7253109

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Max-Studio-Lace-Stretch-Skirt-Size-M-Ivory-/321280552308?pt=US_CSA_WC_Skirts&hash=item4acdd02d74

ivory lace stretch skirt size M - $9.99 USD ($1.99 ship)

[Anonymous No.7253118]

>>7253115

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SACRED-THREADS-patchwork-plaids-Dress-sz-L-maxi-tie-back-lightweight-travel-BOHO-/310826549433?pt=US_CSA_WC_Dresses&hash=item485eb4c0b9

plaid patchwork "maxi" dress size L - $27 USD ($3.09 ship)

[Anonymous No.7253122]

>>7253076
I already asked this earlier in the thread with little response.
I like halainn, although her mori is so-so sometimes. I generally like her as a blogger, though.

[Anonymous No.7253123]

>>7253118

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Red-Ridge-Mountain-Outfitters-3-tiered-button-front-Blue-Denim-Skirt-Medium-EUC-/390727499175?pt=US_CSA_WC_Skirts&hash=item5af92c7da7

denim tiered skirt size M - $7.99 USD ($6.50 ship)

[Anonymous No.7253128]

>>7253123

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Beautiful-Princess-Lace-Long-Skirt-Pink-Brown-White-/251404076581?pt=US_CSA_WC_Skirts&var=&hash=item3a88d9c625

brown skirt (various colors) size M - $9.99 USD ($2 ship)

[Anonymous No.7253132]

>>7253128

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Boden-Button-Front-Denim-Skirt-LNC-Sz-10R-/181285042981?pt=US_CSA_WC_Skirts&hash=item2a356e3b25

button front demin skirt size 10 - $14.99 USD ($4 ship)

[Anonymous No.7253133]

My wallet is crying now that I know how to find mori on ebay. Especially since I can't try things on beforehand

[Anonymous No.7253137]

>>7253132

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRETTY-ANGEL-boho-gypsy-vintage-peasant-layered-dress-two-pieces-mix-match-/111233192817?pt=US_CSA_WC_Dresses&var=&hash=item19e603d371

layered tan dress size S, M, L - $39.99 USD ($6.80 ship)

[Anonymous No.7253138]

>>7253137

dropped my picture ;_;

[Anonymous No.7253220]

>>7253128
>>7253115
>>7253109
>>7253133
Me too anon so many good finds that make a really good coord. I'm probably going to be up late tonight searching up things on Ebay.
>>7253138
This dress for instance is something I neeeed.

Also keep the western mori bloggers coming. The community is so dry even with the few people who post in the tags on Tumblr. It's just hard to find good western mori girls to get inspiration from.

[Anonymous No.7253251]

This vendor has some nice base stuff I think... little expensive, but pretty if you look at mori/dark mori colors.


http://www.ebay.com/sch/new_marmalade_moon/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=

[Anonymous No.7253265]

is this mori?

[Anonymous No.7253471]

>>7253076
I don't really like mori outfits that only utilize one colour/shades of beige.
I feel like this would be better if there were colourful accents of any sort.

>>7253265
could be mori but would have to be styled properly to not end up looking like hildekitten, imo.

[Anonymous No.7254102]

Btw what's the main difference between gypsy, hippie and mori style? Exept the first two uses bright colors, sometime they're very similar

[Anonymous No.7254110]

>>7254102
idk mori style feels fluffier and sweeter to me. like a sort of forest fairy or princess? it also reminds me of cute bunnies.
and doesn't mori tend to have a more brown/white/creamy color palette, while hippie and 'gypsy' have more rusty colors? i've also seen them wear more jewelry than mori girls do, but maybe that's just me.

[Anonymous No.7254114]

>>7254102
>>7254110
oops sorry didn't see your comment about the bright colors first, i should read before i reply.
mori seems more bundled up and cozy while hippies are more free-flowing.
>captcha: bowing weiabo

[Anonymous No.7254115]

>>7254110
> it also reminds me of cute bunnies.

Cute mori bunny is cute

[Anonymous No.7254135]

>>7254102
I personally prefer fairly layered mori looks, so i would say that's a difference.
"Hippie style" always makes me think of just maxi dresses or long skirts with little layering. I think a lot of patterns (like puke-level paisley) are found in that sort of style that would not really be used in mori.
Also, rather than long, somewhat untamed straight-parted hair styles that are so common in hippie or boho styles, I think bangs are much more common in mori.
Mori would also incorporate more woodsy, cutesy, and sometimes weird accessories than hippie/boho.

Also, as a general rule, calling or wearing "gyspy" style clothing is bullshit and really shouldn't be done. I'm usually against calling out "cultural appropriation!!1!!", but this the commercialization of a certian "gyspy" aesthetic is really troubling, imo. Roma are still seriously persecuted throughout Europe and taking bits and pieces of their culture that you like while still treating them like shit is not okay.

sorry for the rant.

[Anonymous No.7254172]

>>7243600
How big is their free size? I wear a small in general, but I know chinese girls are teeny tiny

[Anonymous No.7254202]

>>7254172
some of their items have two sizes, and a size chart is posted at the bottom of every item listing.

[Anonymous No.7254210]

>>7226766
I want this whole thing, oh god.

[Anonymous No.7254248]

>>7254135
Uh, as a person living in a European country where gypsies are a big chunk of the population:
No one is doing jack shit to them, at least generally. Americans don't get this because "muh culture!!1 muh racism!!1" can be heard whenever someone calls someone a bad name, but honestly the Roma (not Irish gypsies that live in the States and UK) have some parts of their culture that aren't that welcome here or anywhere else.
Sure you have a LOT of Roma people that are well-adjusted in the society and have nice families and steady jobs, but a lot of them just cause trouble. They take one (1) baby to several municipalities to register it under different names as a citizen of x country so that they'd get more money, and then leave the country altogether after several months. They put their children in schools to avoid legal persecution but then forbid them to go and instead flee the country and marry them off. They pose as political refugees in multiple countries, live there for several months and then get deported. For those several months they get their accommodation and expenses paid by the govt and then take that money to wherever they came from to build big tacky houses (my country is particularly riddled by these, we are next to Romania and there's a huge community of Roma here)
They can be extremely violent for no reason, gang up against anyone (I'm talking huge families of brothers, sisters, nephews, nieces, uncles coming together to kick someone's ass) that forbids them to start shit and a lot of time they beg on the streets while holding a child (usually not theirs) that's been drugged into oblivion. If any country dares speak up against them causing shit (stealing IS in their culture, by the way) and conning the government, most recently France and Germany, the Americans start QQing "racism!!!" even though they know jack shit about what the situation actually is like.

Oh and cultural appropriation isn't what you think it means.

[Anonymous No.7254254]

>>7254135

OT, but Roma are treated shit here in Europe because that's the impression they've created for themselves. i.e. That they're filthy, thieving parasites who'll steal from your pocket and ruin the area they settle in with filth and petty crime. They pay nothing towards the state but still sponge on its services. The UK has an issue with Roma going to the UK purely to sponge of services like the NHS and welfare, and to commit petty crime like pickpocketing.

We know not all Roma are like this, but when the majority of a population that you encounter is like this, that negative opinion sticks. The issue is that the ones people are encountering are the shitty ones.

[Anonymous No.7254262]

>>7254248
>>7254254

And none of them wear "gypsy style" clothing either. They look like farmers crossed with chavs.

[Anonymous No.7254263]

>>7254248
A different anon, but while yes, Roma can be problematic, they do indeed face discrimination. You need only look at the forced repatriation of Roma by the French or the numerous destructions of Roma settlements to see that. It's a disgrace to the EU.

Further marginalizing already marginalized groups isn't going to help integrate them into society and the justice system at all. The "examples" you just wrote simply show that you are ignorant and prejudiced.

Sage for this being way off topic.

[Anonymous No.7254267]

>>7254254
>>7254248
All of this. I'm tired of the whole "you're just being racist" bullshit from people who haven't even met the actual Roma themselves and witnessed what they can be like. Especially those that say Eastern Europeans are racist for this, when we have a huge mix of different cultures and religions and no one is having trouble with anyone except them, and there's criminal reports to prove it. Recently the gypsy camp in Serbia was upgraded to mobile homes with running water, free electricity and some luxuries others have to pay for, and our country is incredibly poor as it is and unemployment is OVER 50%. What did the gypsies do when they moved into their new homes? They asked for free internet too.

[Anonymous No.7254274]

>>7254263
There's also stuff like this.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/22/AR2011032202551.html

[Anonymous No.7254276]

>>7254263
How can we integrate someone that doesn't WANT to be integrated and actively works against it? If someone robbed me time and time again, I wouldn't cry "oh but they're just misunderstood!", I would call the fucking police and ship them off somewhere else for someone else to deal with them. France has no obligation towards those particular people mentioned before as they are NOT ITS CITIZENS, nor do they want to be.
You obviously know jack shit about the events I was talking about.

[Anonymous No.7254277]

>>7254262
I think people mean Irish gypsies when they say "gypsy style", not Roma.

[Anonymous No.7254283]

>>7252996
Are you kidding me or are you some kind of crochet goddess? It took me 2 months to crochet a shawl that's maybe half as big and only about 10% denser.

[Anonymous No.7254284]

>>7252995
Cats In Straw Hats is one of my favorites too. It's a shame she doesn't post much anymore.

My other favorite mori blogs include Sugar Plum Milk, fawn&doll, and a whole bunch that haven't updated their blogs in over a year...

[Anonymous No.7254293]

>>7254276
Roma were deported back Romania and Bulgaria as they were citizens of those countries. All three are part of the EU.
"Citizens of the EU" should generally be treated if not equally, then with a good deal of consideration. You know, not to mention they're humans and what they've suffered has been termed human rights abuses multiple times.

You honestly sound like a shitty person with a strong sense of nationalism. You know, Hitler didn't like the Roma, either.

[Anonymous No.7254305]

>>7254293
Whoa whoa whoa

You can't just make comparisons to Hitler like that, come on man, Reductio ad Hitlerum

[Anonymous No.7254314]

>>7254293
Oh no, the Hitler card! What ever shall I do?
Listen, Hitler gassed about 80% of my country too, if we're gonna go there. The fact is that even in the countries they come from they stir up shit and scam government officials, they do that here too. I haven't heard of the castration thing, that's horrible and I'm honestly disgusted about that and really sorry to hear it, but the fact is they cause a lot of trouble and that is the reason they get deported. The Roma that come there legally, with papers, are allowed to stay and the Germans and French are squeamish around anyone coming from Eastern Europe. When a lot of people travel there from my country, we get interrogated like hell about where we're going, how long we'll stay, do we have any criminal offenses, who we have living in the country, etc while others stick around for a few seconds and they let them go. Recently they reinstalled visas for my country because Sweden complained about the surge of illegal immigrants from here after we got on the white schengen list or whatever.

So please, let's not go there. I know what I'm talking about and I wasn't being racist, but I suppose you know me better than I do so whatever.

[Anonymous No.7254313]

>>7254305
>Person spews really prejudiced, propaganda-level bullshit about the Roma
>Denies discrimination, historical or current
>"France needs to look after IT'S OWN PEOPLE!! Fuck those other guys!"
>Generally seems like a nationalist, anti-humanist twat

idk, seems pretty apt to me.

[Anonymous No.7254320]

>>7254313
>propaganda-level
I don't know man, they weren't the one cherry-picking articles from the internet but sure fine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_s4g_zeoVs

[Anonymous No.7254334]

E-fucking-nough already! Jesus, I can't beleive even a mori girl thread gets derailed into socio/political/racial bickering bullshit.
>>7254135
Was it THAT hard to just discuss the fashion at hand and not get on your social justice high horse? Thanks!

[Anonymous No.7254333]

Can we go back to talking about Mori Kei shit?

[Anonymous No.7254335]

>>7254314
You do realize that part of the reason they engage in such behaviours and have such a bad "rep" is a result of the fact that they've been discriminated against for more than half a millennium, right? People on the edge of society (you can say that they don't want to be integrated, however, I would argue that the governments haven't done much to truly help/accommodate them and their culture [which is not all thievery and child abuse, you know]) often behave in such ways because 1) "traditional" or lawful routes are not easily or not at all accessible , 2) there is a feeling that they can't get out of the cycle no matter what, 3) if people are going to see them as a bunch of thieving fucks, why even try?

The arguments you've presented are all fairly familiar to me, given that they're frequently used against African Americans in the US (where I am from) and by the older gen against Turkish people in Germany (where I now live and work). Things are changing a bit in Germany now, with a lot of neo-nationalist hatred being shifted against Romanians, Hungarians, etc. but it's all the same game.

[Anonymous No.7254337]

>>7254320
I didn't post any articles. However, both Amnesty International and the EU have put out reports on discrimination against Romani peoples.

[Anonymous No.7254341]

[Anonymous No.7254350]

anyone know what the name of this brand is?

[Anonymous No.7254358]

>>7254350
Looks like cawaii
rakuten.ne.jp/gold/onepi-c/

[Anonymous No.7254366]

>>7254350
forestgirlfans.taobao.com
or
dearli.taobao.com

[Anonymous No.7254378]

Can we delete the thread and start another, OP? It reeks of Tumblr.

[Anonymous No.7254397]

>>7254102
Some good points were made already, but "cute" things and fairytales can influence mori pretty strongly and neither of those factor into gypsy/hippie/boho, as far as I know. A lot of mori looks strive for girlish and youthful whereas the aforementioned usually read more to me like... free, wild, untamed? It's not exactly my area of expertise, but that's the impression I get. This is all broadly speaking, though, obviously. I think mori is also probably more covered up with a looser fit on the whole.

[Anonymous No.7254493]

Unless you're an EU citizen, you have no right to pass judgement on us Europeans and our treatment of Roma.

Likewise, if you're one of the privileged EU citizens that haven't hand to deal with fucking shit Romani, kindly fuck off with your oppression bullshit. They bring it on themselves. I personally feel for the Romani that do make an effort not be shit heads. They're the fucking minority though, as they tend to keep to themselves and it's the shit ones that we experience first hand.

[Anonymous No.7254562]

>>7233346
What about that bothers you?
I used to work in a secondhand shop and everything gets laundered before we put it on the shelves. If you want, you can take it home and launder it again.

I've always loved vintage things specifically BECAUSE they belonged to someone else before me. I like to imagine the stories behind them- my favorite are things that came from members of my family, like my great grandmother's school medal, which she won for having the best grades.

Did you have to wear handme downs as a kid or something? Does it bother you when you buy new items from shops with fitting rooms that someone else probably tried on? Is it a germ thing?

If you want vintage stuff that's never been worn, lookup "new old stock" on etsy or ebay. All of those items were produced then unsold and they sat in a warehouse somewhere without being used.

[Anonymous No.7254590]

>>7243483
>>7243467
>>7243446
These. My current shopping list involves a cute warm hat, a lace maxi skirt to layer under things, a maxi sweater coat like the ones that were popular in the early 2000s, and 3-4 gunne sax style blouses.

I live where it's super cold, so the hardest thing to find is thick maxi skirts- the kind that are warm instead of sheer, summerweight type things.

Also, I think for mori in general you can never have too many knit accessories like scarves, armwarmers, leg warmers, boot socks, hats, etc.

I've noticed that mainstream stores like American Eagle often have some pretty moriable sweaters if you either buy a size up or pair them with an extra flowy skirt.

[Anonymous No.7254617]

>>7254493
I agree, it's stupid to compare them to black people in the US because black people were brought against their will and lived there for only 150 years more or less, and Roma have been here for several centuries and have never integrated because it was their choice (they lived in camps mainly). This isn't the States, the situation is different.
Anyway, let's keep this on topic and stop talking about this or else the SJSquad will get on our ass again and we'll derail the thread (again).

[Anonymous No.7254640]

>>7254562
I love going to vintage/second hand shops! It's like every piece of clothing has a story. And the sh store chain here mends and washes everything so the clothing is in like new condition. The stuff that's chaffed and worn is usually given away for free.

[Anonymous No.7254641]

here's a mori kei outfit i'm putting together.
still havent decided on what kind of shoes i want but i'm excited to pull this all together with mostly used clothes from ebay / cheap little accessories i found
some of the clothes i already had so i just got something that looked similar to it, but you get the basic idea
i plan on altering the skirt to bunch it up a little on one side so you can see the crochet skirt underneath more
i'll post pics when it's all done

[Anonymous No.7254651]

>>7254590
I don't have much money and I always feel guilty for spending it on clothes, because my brother spends nothing at all and I feel like some vain asshole that's splurging and wasting away everything. :( But I have nothing to coord nicely and want to look nice... Do you have shopping lists like that every month? I wish I was at peace with my closet but there's so much more I could use...

[Anonymous No.7254680]

>>7254651
Do you have any cheap thrift stores in your area, anon? I can get a bunch of items for next to nothing at the ones near me, but I live in a really small town.

[Anonymous No.7254714]

>>7254680
I live in a big city and even thrift stores charge a heftier sum for stuff, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.7254827]

>>7254714
wow, how much is "hefty"? I thought 5$ for a sweater at Goodwill here was a lot.

Try going to the outskirts to a poorer area store... there is one near where I work and everything is almost 40% cheaper (it is a non-chain thrift store) and they have a completely different selection.

[Anonymous No.7254839]

Just some pointers in this thread about the Roma.

They're not a European ethnic group, they came from the Indian subcontinent, they are interlopers on our continent.

They're responsible for a disproportionate amount of crime wherever they go. But in this case I guess "victim blaming" is ok, they must commit all that crime because of... erm... cultural appropriation? lol.

France are well within their rights to deport them. But it's inconsistent, France should be deporting boatloads of Algerians and other North and sub-Saharan Africans too.

There is nothing wrong with Nationalism. Part of the reason you're on this board is because you idolize a highly xenophobic, nationalist country's unique culture. A culture that has remained unique because of conscious and concerted efforts to ensure Japan remains Japanese (everything from sakoku to the present day strict immigration policies they have).

[Anonymous No.7254840]

>>7252463
Lol bitch you jelly as heyul
Keep hatin, no one gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.7254842]

>>7254827
10€ for a skirt, more for other pieces, and that's marked down from 50€ that it'd usually be. It's a huge chain of second-hand shops and prices are the same everywhere. :(

[Anonymous No.7254848]

>>7254842
Ahhh I understand.

Still cheaper than store things though, right? I have a sickness where I can't justify buying things at full price anywhere :(

Maybe it's worse in the US, because the qaulity of everything (shitty) vs the price (40$ for a embellished shirt that is still seethrough?) is awful.

Are things in your area good quality?

[Anonymous No.7254849]

>>7254335
>You do realize that part of the reason they engage in such behaviours and have such a bad "rep" is a result of the fact that they've been discriminated against for more than half a millennium, right?

You can't just make naked assertions like this with no substantiation.

>I would argue that the governments haven't done much to truly help/accommodate them

So basically, by importing immigrants you import the costs of having to accommodate their negative externalities?

Why import them in the first place then? Simply remove them from the Nation/Body politics, and you remove the associated problems.

It's funny you're complaining about nascent German desires to control their borders as "nationalism" in relation to Turks of all people, some of the most jingoistic, fervently nationalistic people on Earth.

The Grey Wolves and other elements of the nationalistic Turkish deep state are pretty well established in Germany, or did you not know that? Do you even know who they are?

[Anonymous No.7254851]

>>7254848
ew muh grammar

[Anonymous No.7254856]

[Anonymous No.7254917]

The brand Jo Browns usually has some very mori-able items in. Lots of crochet, knit stuff, flowy dresses and the like.

[Anonymous No.7255025]

>>7254651
I don't have a lot of cash right now because I'm making payments on a medical bill, but normally I tend to buy a few things each month. The thing is when you're thrifting, it's good to have a list of the stuff you want in your head.

I rarely spend much per item, but I usually buy 2-3 new things each month, although some months I have to blow my budget on new tights because my job requires them with dresses and I tend to get holes and runs a lot.

Luckily I have awesome thrift shops in my area, or I'd rarely get much at all!

[Anonymous No.7255762]

>>7254562
Well, I suppose it's a germ thing, I grew up with a nurse as mother. (she's awesome though)
I know washing it will make it clean but my subconsious still thinks it's not.
Also, the secondhand shops I've been too weren't clean and smelled pretty bad. The few ones I've visited, never had any nice clothes, only ugly grandma clothes.

[Anonymous No.7255768]

>>7254641
That looks like it's gonna be a cute outfit anon :)
Also, thank you for reminding me I need to buy more longsleeves to wear underneath all my clothing in winter

[Anonymous No.7255770]

>>7254562
>>7255762
Also forgot to mention, I tend to worn out clothes very fast so if I buy second hand, that'll go even faster.
Maybe I wash them too much, haha (seriously though, washing something after you've worn it two-three days, isn't that much, is it?)

[Anonymous No.7255887]

>>7255770
>washing something after you've worn it two-three days, isn't that much, is it?
Depends on what it is and where you worn it. I wash knit shirts that I wear all day each time I wear them. Pants, pajamas, and most dresses (except summer sundresses, which get washed pretty much each wear due to heat and pollen and smog) get washed each 2-3 times they're worn. Sweaters get washed each 5-6 times I wear them since they don't touch me; the exception is if I'm around someone who is ill.

[Anonymous No.7255898]

>>7255770
I think that if it's high-quality materials and well-made it'll last you for a long time.
Unrelated to mori, but I buy second-hand army stuff like gloves and coats worn by WWII nurses. It's incredibly high quality and will last much longer than anything you buy new these days.

[Anonymous No.7256071]

A lot of the mori clothes on taobao are size free ;_;

Does anyone know what are the max measurements one can be to still fit a size free?
Bust/waist/hips etc.

[Anonymous No.7256089]

>>7256071
Measurements are listed 90% of the time, anon.

[Anonymous No.7256091]

>>7256071
You have the notion that this fashion won't look good on you if you're fat, right?

[Anonymous No.7256100]

>>7256091
I'm a medium in most things.
Short with most of the fat in the bottom half.

Mori tops, based on measurements, seem to fit but the bottoms might not.

Hence, why I'm asking.

[Anonymous No.7256136]

>>7256100
American medium = fat by Asian standards.
You'll probably be ok if you stick to the voluminous skirts, though. Anyway, there's no need to shop on taobao for mori - as everyone in the rest of the thread has been saying, it really looks better if you thrift most items.

[Anonymous No.7256147]

>>7256136
>American medium = fat by Asian standards.
I'm tired of people saying this. No it does not. American S is average, American M is above average yes, but it's still not considered fat, L however is.

[Anonymous No.7256164]

>>7256147
I'm a European S/M (not that kind), what would my US size be? Usually I'm a Chinese M so I'm curious, because the clothes fit for the most part but some things like blazers end up looking saggy.

[Anonymous No.7256713]

Chicwish.

[Anonymous No.7256774]

>>7256147
I really wish this was true but it's not. Sure, be happy with the skin you're in and enjoy various fashions etc and whatnot, I don't think being over certain measurements means you're necessarily 'fat' however, Japanese measurements are approximately the following:

Japanese 'S' = bust 31 waist 22-23 inches
Japanese 'M' = bust 33 waist 24-25 inches
Japanese 'L' = bust 35-37 waist 26-28 inches

Having recently come back from Japan, I can tell you now that a Japanese 'L' is only slightly larger than a UK 10, in some cases smaller compared to the brands that are very inconsistent or use 'vanity sizing'.

[Anonymous No.7256780]

>>7256774
The measurements you listed were smaller than a UK 10, though? Maybe it's because of my short height and weird shape, but I almost always wear a 6-8, and I'm 33-34/26.5/32.

To anons worrying about sizing, I think that most mori is really accommodating to slightly chubbier girls, particularly if you've large hips/legs, as the clothing is rather voluminous.

[Anonymous No.7256796]

>>7256780
Sizing can be a funny thing, especially considering if you have a short or long torso etc etc. Plus as most items are not very high waisted, you can 'get away' with wearing smaller clothing than your size and still have it fit well, particularly if you have small hips. If you look at most women's UK size charts, a 10 is between 26-28 inch waist with a 33-36 bust, this doesn't take into account all the vanity sizing that goes on though.

I agree that mori clothing in general is very forgiving and is often designed to be worn very loose and not form-fitting at all. I would check the style first to be sure and if possible check how the clothing sits on the models.

[Anonymous No.7256817]

>>7256164
In the USA it varies hugely depending on what store you go to.
I'm fat. I'm not going to lie. I have a bust between 40 and 44 inches depending on weight fluctuations. In most "ladies'" brands I wear a size large, in most "junior's" brands I wear XL, and in most high end brands, I'm a 2xl if my size is carried at all.

TBH I'd really rather have no vanity sizing. It seems like people in the UK, for instance, generally know they're a UK whatever size all the time because a UK 18 is a UK 18.

An american size means jack shit. I have skirts in my closet that are a size six, and tops that are a size medium.

[Anonymous No.7256833]

>>7256817
UK sizes are weird. Men's are in inches while women's are some arbitrary number (that doesn't go to zero at the same size as american zero...). Even with inch measurements, you've got about 4 inches between the actual measurement and the one it says on the tags.

Those 4" are a mishmash combination of stretch allowance (when fabrics are now much stretchier) and vanity.

the only solution is to make your own clothes.

[Anonymous No.7256843]

>>7256817
UK is suffering from vanity sizing too. In the past few years, the sizes have gotten bigger. I used to wear a UK size 10 and I've dropped to between a size 6 and 8 while staying at the exact same measurements. Oh actually, I lie. I have gotten bigger hips and breasts and somehow dropped a dress size.

[Anonymous No.7256860]

>>7256833
Agreed, the vanity sizing in the UK is starting to go the way of the US. I own clothes from a UK 4-12, all of which fit perfectly well. I'm supposed to be a UK 8 but I've bought clothes without trying them on that fit friends that are two dress sizes larger. One of the main problems I find are 'floating' waistbands where the clothing doesn't properly sit on your waist or hips. Vanity sizing works though frustratingly, I often hear girls celebrating the fact that they fit into a 'smaller' size the last time they went shopping, even when they haven't lost any weight. I try to stay away from the subject though since telling a girl that's larger than me that it's all bullshit would make me sound like a complete asshole bitch. Besides, my figure isn't very nice, I'm just on the small side by UK standards. It would be nice to talk about the subject though without fearing that I'm just attempting to declare how fabulously slim I am or other such crap.

[Anonymous No.7256867]

>>7256796
>>7256796
I am a US medium, size 10, and my waist is 29... but my ribcage is a 36 on it's own, with DD boobs. So I would never have a chance of fitting in a Chinese L just because of my chest.

[Anonymous No.7256873]

>>7256867
Aside from the fact the listed size is a 28 up there... I have looked at chinese brands and usually the max waist for more Mori things is a 30, but the chest is still a 36/37

[Anonymous No.7256897]

>>7256873
>>7256867
So try getting skirts from taobao occasionally, and get sweaters and tops from etsy.

I'm the fat person with the 44 max bust from earlier in the thread- I find cute vintage blouses and dresses on there all the time.

[Anonymous No.7256902]

>>7256897
Oh skirts aren't an issue. I was kind of trying to chime in on the sizing conversation. I've never tried taobao, I don't think I'm ready to try to figure it out yet.

I have had great success at the local thrifts. I used to be a size L, and the selection available to me as a now size M is so much bigger at the thrifts.

[Anonymous No.7256914]

People above said they were looking for belts.

I think this belt could work for mori... you could make it really easily and I bet you could add some crochet accents right down the middle, or make crochet ties, or something.

etsy.com/listing/166331947/wide-leather-belt-cocoa-brown-underbust

[Anonymous No.7256917]

>>7256914

Adding some things I've collected on etsy

etsy.com/listing/173475990/christmas-sale-20-off-d7-jade-two-tone

[Anonymous No.7256921]

>>7256917
etsy.com/listing/152070328/natural-flower-hair-clip-with-hemp

[Anonymous No.7256924]

>>7256921
etsy.com/listing/166723956/lacey-off-white-open-knit-leg-warmer

[Anonymous No.7256926]

>>7256924
etsy.com/listing/170404031/tanned-leather-backpack-rucksack-leather

[Anonymous No.7256928]

>>7256926
dropped my pic

[Anonymous No.7256930]

>>7256928
etsy.com/listing/155295990/beige-cotton-peasant-sleeveless-blouse

[Anonymous No.7256931]

>>7256930
etsy.com/listing/103399299/christmas-sale-20-off-d10-swan-off-white

[Anonymous No.7256935]

>>7256931
etsy.com/listing/50836956/lace-up-crochet-shoes-beige-w-tan-color

[Anonymous No.7256936]

>>7256935
etsy.com/listing/165476655/christmas-sale-off-20-hand-knit-hat

[Anonymous No.7256938]

>>7256936
etsy.com/listing/164169691/custom-shoe-collars-cathedral-ankleleg

[Anonymous No.7256939]

>>7256938
etsy.com/listing/126625818/rusted-raw-crystal-hemp-necklace

[Anonymous No.7256942]

>>7256939
last one... I know this says steampunk but I love the pockets.

etsy.com/listing/126625818/rusted-raw-crystal-hemp-necklace

[Anonymous No.7256945]

>>7256942
Welp time to get off the internet

https://www.etsy.com/listing/167938998/take-me-to-your-heartsteampunk-short

[Anonymous No.7256946]

>>7256942
I love that! I totally want one.
>>7256945

[Anonymous No.7256948]

>>7256914
No offense, anon, but that belt looks like shit. It's too wide and nowhere cute enough for mori.

[Anonymous No.7256960]

>>7256948
Just trying to give people different ideas. It definitely needs some tweaking, hence the suggestions.

[Anonymous No.7257332]

UK mori girl here. Been watching this thread for a while now I have the following to add: Primark. This store seems to have Tumblr knowledge as they stock mori girl items as well as hipster stuff. Aside from that, previous anon is right, ebay is a gold mine but be specific in your search. Tips: Oxygen do mori style shoes. I use gingham and check or tartan when I refine my searches for smocks and my best finds are from personal sellers NOT ebay shops. Cheaper too.

[Anonymous No.7257338]

>>7257332
US mori girl and I've long been jealous of others' Primark finds. Thanks for the search tips, I'll have to try that.

[Anonymous No.7257356]

>>7257338
i can imagine the frustration. Buy from personal sellers, they usually don't have a clue what 'mori' is. Use the search term 'Atmosphere' it's Primark's Wonder Rocket.

[Anonymous No.7257374]

>>7256914
I do like that belt but damn that's expensive and not even that well made....but I feel like I always get that with Etsy...

[Anonymous No.7257391]

>>7257374
With etsy I struck luck when I bought a really cheap pair of maryjane flats from a shop called enamor
They're so comfy you have no clue

[Anonymous No.7257488]

>>7254350
I love that you can wear Mori with jeans.

[Anonymous No.7257489]

>>7254651
Clothing is kind of a necessity. You're buying thrift, not brand new Chanel

[Anonymous No.7257491]

>>7256833
This shit makes me mad. This is why I shop on Japanese stores because at least both men and women pants are inches and not just S, M, L
That crap makes no sense. I'm a size 26inches, not six or eight or zero

[Anonymous No.7257513]

>>7257491
But that's why you measure yourself at home and look at charts to find your size. At the store you take your size, one lower and one higher and go try it on. That's why people have changing rooms. Also, not all cuts suit you even if they are your size.

[Anonymous No.7257533]

>>7257513
That's not the point. I know my size and measurements, but men's clothing is literally inches where women's are always size 0-14 or whatever and that makes absolutely no sense.

[Anonymous No.7262536]

>>7257533
You'd think so, but even men have to deal with vanity sizing bullshit. I'd argue that they have it worse when it comes to vanity sizing, because while our number sizing was arbitrary to begin with, theirs was supposed to correspond to their actual measurements.

[Anonymous No.7267663]

Alright, so besides scaves, what other kinds of things could i crochet to go with mori girl?

[Anonymous No.7267668]

>>7262536
This has nothing to do with Vanity sizing, its just the amount of extra belt they're giving you.

[Anonymous No.7267673]

>>7267663

Collars are definitely cute. I want to take up crochet just to make these lovelies.

[Anonymous No.7267710]

>>7267673
Those are really cute.
I've actually made collars too, but they end up pretty chunky looking. A lot of the yarn I ave is too thick for those delicate and pretty collars.

[Anonymous No.7268187]

>>7267710
Is that one of the ones you made? I love it.

[Anonymous No.7269359]

>>7267710

I love the collar actually! Looks pretty warm and cozy especially in this cold weather.

[Anonymous No.7269459]

>>7269359
>>7268187
Thank you! It is pretty warm, so it's definitely ideal for cold weather. I guess my problem is that it can get a little too warm for the weather here! It's also pretty big as the edges almost reach the tips of my shoulders.

[Anonymous No.7269641]

>>7256931
OH no the shop's down!
Does anyone know what sort of dress this is called, I've been looking for one for a while now. They just look so comfy and flowy

[Anonymous No.7270281]

>>7267710
>>7269459
Hello, fellow crocheter! I make collars, too! Mine aren't as mori, though.

[Anonymous No.7270652]

I love making mori girl accessories

[Anonymous No.7270699]

This is one mori coord that I did over the summer. Yeah, I'm a little chubby, but I'm trying to work on it.

[Anonymous No.7270714]

This is one mori coord that I did over the summer.

[Anonymous No.7270879]

>>7267663
I'm in love with triangle shawls, particularly ones with large tassels on two of the edges. Also, boot covers. I'm planning to crochet something like this bag, too:
http://morganisedchaos.blogspot.de/2011/04/granny-square-string-tote-bag-pt-1.html
http://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/granny-square-purse-7
It looks like a relatively quick project.

[Anonymous No.7275078]

quick questuin here, i might be called '' ita mori'' but some dresses by the brand '' molly bracken'' seems pretty ''morisable' with some accessorises ( maybe an extra skirt) any throught ?

[Anonymous No.7275119]

>>7275078

Looks really moriable!

Mori isn't really about name brand and individual pieces so much as it is about an overall look. Keep that in mind as you shop for things.

[Anonymous No.7275460]

I'm trying to figure out my personal style and like a lot of aspects of mori, but some of it doesn't click with me--could anyone suggest similar fashion movements that focus on nature/the natural?

[Anonymous No.7275544]

>>7275460
maybe something more bohemian or folky might be more up your alley?

I'd like to see a few more summery mori outfits as it seems the majority is really rugged-up wintery looks

[Anonymous No.7275942]

>>7275460
Can you be more specific? What doesn't click with you?

[Anonymous No.7275990]

>>7270652
That collar is lovely! What size hook and yarn did you use?

>>7270281
I love this and the subtle colors

[Anonymous No.7275994]

>>7275942
Well, maybe it's more the layering--I love it, but I live in a climate where most of these outfits would be impractical. I also prefer more fitted clothes, but that's a personal style thing; I know I can take mori concepts and tweak that to fit my aesthetic.

Generally, I am looking for more nature/natural focused style keywords or buzzwords to make internet searching for inspiration a bit easier.

[Anonymous No.7276067]

>>7275994
Ah, I see. I was going to say, if it's just the layering, you don't have to layer a lot for an outfit to be mori, but I do think loose clothing is pretty important to the style overall. Sorry I don't have any other suggestions for you, though.

Guess it's time for a new thread.

[Anonymous No.7276848]

I really want to see more good mori lolita cross over. Most of what I've seen so far is regular lolita with a scarf and few extra accessories. Anyone have good examples?

[Anonymous No.7277290]

>>7226774
omg I need to do an order now just for that scarf

My favourite mori girl shop is http://annesquare.taobao.com/
The quality is good, I can vouch for that, but the sizes are a bit random? I have a review of some of their items on my blog (http://sparklesideup.blogspot.ie/2013/10/taobao-haul-and-review-part-2-rainbow.html)), the stuff I ordered from them was more dolly kei but the majority of their stuff is mori

[Anonymous No.7277493]

New thread >>7277491