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Lolita confessions time. Confess your sins to Mana-Sama.

Since I hate OPs that don't contribute, I'll start.

> be me
> AWA 2012
> rooming with many people I don't know, including a lolita
> lolita pulls me and my friend aside during the con, crying about her ex
> made it blatantly obvious I didn't care
> think about it now
> feelsbadman

>> No.7167573

>be me
>want to bone everybody in my comm
>feelsbadman

>> No.7167580
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> have 'friend'
> just getting into fashion
> 'friend' had been bashing lolita
> "It'll be K.Y.E. when I do it! I'll be the best lolly ever!"
> direct friend to Milanoo
> mfw

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7167583

>be me
>meet comm
>they're all itas except for one girl who wears handmade
>"Brand is way too expensive!"
>mfw

>> No.7167585

>>7167580
what the fuck does k.y.e mean

>> No.7167593

>>7167585

That's how she used to say 'kawaii.' Stilted, like it's something's initials.

>> No.7167591

>>7167585
Sound it out aloud. Even I figured it out....sheesh

>> No.7167599

>>7167591
i am in the library on mobile

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7167596

> be me
> attend panel
> panelist is horribly dressed
> contradicts herself
> kiss up to her afterwards
> laugh at her fugly outfit and makeup with loli friends later
> mfw two-faced and don't care

>> No.7167606

>have roommate who is into japanese things
>learns that i'm a lolita, freaks out
>"you have to let me go to a meet with you, anon!"
>have bad feeling, but encourage her
>pieces together horrible bodyline-chan outfit
>is rude and stuck up to all the girls at the meet
>"i'm even more lolita than you, anon. and i've been into it longer since i watch anime."
>WHAT HAVE I DONE?!
>i am frankenstein. i created a monster. i am damned.

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7167614

>be me
>own nothing even remotely lolita
>go to con
>see a fluffy underskirt
>"wow, this is really good!"
>buy underskirt for 63 dollars
>"this will go great with my...my..."
>"why...did i buy this?"

>> No.7167615

>>7167606
1. post her here
2. let anons tear her apart
3. innocuously show her the thread so she'll stop having such a big head over things she doesn't even deserve to feel smug about
4. ???
5. Profit

>> No.7167629

>>7167615
This, name and shame girl!

>> No.7167634

>>7167614

Jeeeesus, you could've gotten a second hand brand petti for that, or a new Classical Puppets one.

>> No.7167632

>>7167614
Sounds like me every time I go clothes shopping

>> No.7167646

>>7167615
>>7167629
This was about a year ago. She's deleted me off FB after I posted some pro gay marriage stuff. Last I saw her was at a local con where she looked hilarious, but this isn't an ita thread.

>> No.7167647
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7167647

> be me
> lolita at convention
> itas everywhere
> smile and compliment every single one
> mfw I know I'm just pushing them to keep dressing horribly

>> No.7167655

>Local Community pissed me off
>shitalk them online, framing some new chick who was ita
>watch them tear her down, insulting her as a person, and her apperance
>sit back and watch
she's been banned and started complaining on her blog how "these big elitist meanies were bitches to me out of nowhere! I hate this community! bawww"

it was worth it.

>> No.7167665

I posted the first part of this story in an ita thread a while back but left out the part where I did a bad deed.

>ita ruins an innocent world blouse i loaned her
>while she's out of the room at a con, i steal her hot topic chain fedora and throw it away
>later on she was in tears trying to find her hat

I don't regret it.

>> No.7167668

> give horrible dresses to beginning lolitas
> don't even feel bad

>> No.7167670
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7167670

>Used to be chubby (95-82-98) and ita
>Lost weight, now average (88-74-90) and not ita
>Now I think really negative things about chubby lolitas who can't dress themselves, even though I used to be one
>Have I forgotten my past?

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7167672

>>7167670
>SIMBA REMEMBER WHO YOU ARE

>> No.7167675

>>7167672
I wanted to reference this exact thing in my post, but I couldn't figure out how to fit it in.
Thank you for doing it for me.

>> No.7167676
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7167676

I'm gay.

I dress at every chance I get, but I'm massively too nervous to go to a community meetup because even just being close to another lolita makes me blush wildly and fidget uncontrollably.

I'd look like I'm unwell, or be really obvious that I'm gay... It's not even a fetish for me, I just truly enjoy dressing properly and modestly and in an unambiguously feminine fashion. I don't fit in at all with lesbian circles because of my love of femininity, and I can't slip into lolita circles because I am a wreck.

I will fashion the frilliest hang-rope out of spare lace and velvet and hang myself with it.

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7167679

>sold a dress I forgot I smoked and sweated in
>wait for negative feedback to happen
>Oh Anon I got the dress, it's so lovely!

mfw

>> No.7167681

>>7167676
I know your pain, bro. I get really nervous around cute girls, so much so that I can barely hold a conversation at times...

>> No.7167683
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7167683

>>go to this ~*goth*~ store where the staff is notorious for being unhelpful and treating customers like shit if they don't look a certain way
>>spot staff-chan who has been really rude/mocking/condescending/insulting on several occasions to me and my friends in the past
>>staff-chan notices me
>>approaches
>>comments on my outfit
>>obviously knows what lolita is
>>mfw I reply that it's a japanese fashion they've probably never heard of

>> No.7167690

>>7167675
I'm here for you, anon.

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>>7167614
my feels. Every god damn time.

>> No.7167704

My husband and I recently moved to a new city in relation to my job. He has friends in the area and has adjusted easily to the change in location. Meanwhile, my family and closest friends are on the other side of the continent. Obviously, he invites me to do things with his friends, but they frequently make me feel out of place. They are all extremely creative people, mostly writers and a few designers, and while I know they do not meaning to, they often make me feel infererior/stupid/childish though we are all the same age. Shit, I'm even older than several, but feel infinitely less accomplished.

I have been trying to make nice with my coworkers after hours, but it is not working out all that well, because most of them are nearly double my age and tend toward being condescending outside of the office. After two failed dinner parties, I have stopped trying.

Because of all of this, I have tried filling social gaps by befriending local lolitas, and it has not been working out well. There are a handful of girls who I get along with. They are not the lulzsorandom breed common in the community, but I find I have little in common with them otherwise and have trouble connecting any deeper than the frills. I still go to as many meet ups as I can, but my heart is just not in it any more.

I do not want to give up wearing lolita, but the whole situation has me feeling extremely lonely, and the clothes just remind me of that when I wear them.

>> No.7167718

>>7167704
I often find I have trouble connecting with other lolitas (and most people in general), too. In fact, the only group of people I consistently get on with are people who like drum and bass, surprisingly enough. Perhaps you aren't looking for company in the right places, Anon.

>> No.7167738

>>7167614
That's the complete opposite of me.
>dress on sale that I really like
>wellll let me think it over
>I dunno if it's worth it
>do I even have anything to make an outfit with this
>ask friends if they like how it looks
>forget about it for a bit
>oh yeah that one dress
>yeah okay I guess I can make it work
>check
>dress sold out

Forever window shopping ;_;

>> No.7167745

>>7167738
This.
This so much.
Ah, well. Frugality's not always a bad thing, I guess.

>> No.7167748

> be me
> in lesbian relationship
> also wouldn't mind fucking lolita friend of mine

>> No.7167752

>>7167738

I'm doing this with the innocent world sale right now. My mom has given me her seal of approval (not like I need it, but it feels better because she points out stuff that could be odd looking, but she was okay with the two dresses I pointed out to her). But I just don't feel the dresses too much at all. Don't know man, maybe I should just wait a couple of more months.

>>7167745

I'm not even frugal. I'm just really afraid and IW always takes such bad stock photos. I would not be hesitating this much on taobao stuff even though I'm pretty sure they're not as great quality. Sigh.

>> No.7167760

>>7167752
My mom came over to my apartment and said to me "You need some new clothes, pick some out online and I'll pay for them for you", and it's taken me almost a month to try to pick out clothes because I'm really picky and really frugal even though it's not even my money. God damnit.

>> No.7167761

>>7167681
It's good to know I'm not the only girlxgirl in lolita fashion altogether. Thanks for chiming in, Anon.

>> No.7167779

>>7167676

If I could find another lesbian loli in my area

I would be the happiest girl in the world

>Live in Texas, good fucking luck finding gay people outside of Austin

>> No.7167781

>>7167779
all the girls in my area who are interested in girls are uggos and practically ita. i feel your pain.

>> No.7167788

>>7167781

It's either cute girl, or into girls

There is no in between

>> No.7167791

>>7167748

Where are you from? I feel like you might be a friend of mine.

>> No.7167794

>>7167791

Cali.

>> No.7167799

>>7167672
>>7167679
I cried

>> No.7167807

>>7167779
>>7167781
>>7167748
... Thanks, guys. You really are the best lolis out there.

>> No.7167819

>>7167591
award for this anon plz LMAO!!!!!! xdddd

>> No.7167821

>>7167807
I sometimes wish there was a les loli hook up comm or something.

>> No.7167822

>>7167665
I read the first part of your story and good on you, but i would have gone further.

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> go to con
> shitton of mediocre lolitas or plain itas
> can't do the friendly smile
> feel bad for giving a bad impression to all newbie lolitas
> still can't smile, outfits too ugly

Feels bad man. I don't want to be a judgmental bitch but hot damn. I just want to be nice.

>> No.7167850

>>7167718
Clearly the case, but I really no longer have any hobbies other than lolita. I have no idea where to even start getting into something new.

>> No.7167895

>>7167573
I-I feel you...

>> No.7167940

>>7167821

I worry about the people who are just interested in dating a lolita for the sake of dating one, and aren't into the fashion style

>> No.7167947

>>7167704
Are you me?
It's so hard to make friends. I never thought it would be this difficult.

>> No.7167950

>>7167940
Well, dating and hooking up are two different things, right?

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>>7167788
so true, why is that?
if they're hot, they're "bisexual"

>> No.7167957

>>7167953

And that just ends in them dating guys while claiming how much they love women. I'm sure there's a bisexual girl out there who doesn't do this, but I've yet to meet her.

>>7167950
True. I guess I'm just more dating-minded.

>> No.7167968

ive been wearing lolita for ten years and have never worn or pwned bloomers

>> No.7168024

I enjoy meeting the gaze of people who are staring at me and seeing who looks away first.

>> No.7168052

>>7167665
Too bad you did her a favour by throwing it away.

>> No.7168122

>hate tripfags with a passion
>all of them
>follow them from thread to thread to call them needy little attentionwhores
>derailed many threads by going back and forth with some- it just makes them look bad, not me.
>notevensorry

does anyone else follow trips from thread to thread to harrass them?

>> No.7168127

>>7167957
i'd love to date a fellow loli, we could wear matching coords and go to tearooms and stare into eachothers eyes.

>> No.7168136

>>7168127

My girlfriend and I are lolis, and I really want to twin with her, but I wear sweet and she says she feels really awkward and dumb looking in sweet. She wears classic, and I feel weird looking in classic.
Forever crying.

>> No.7168143

>>7168122
I'll do it with you, anon.

>> No.7168155

>>7167679
This is fucking great! I can totally see myself doing this.

>> No.7168166

>>7167679
Honestly, I smoke a few cigs a day outdoors, and I feel like as long as you keep that habit outdoors, your clothes will be fine. If you wore them to a smoky bar, or have butts and ashtrays in your house, it might linger, but if the dress is aired out properly it'll be okay.

Thanks for this reminder though about the need for dry cleaning second hand clothing upon arrival.

>> No.7168187

When I see super fatties stretching clothes I want to rescue the clothes from their misery, it pains me to see the clothes being abused and stretched way past the limits.
I wish I can just tell the fatties to change or lose weight, but its really not my place to do so.

>> No.7168193

>>7167738
Are you me? I'll stalk brand websites, put stuff in my cart, take it out, put it back in, start check out, stop checking out, let it sit for a month, and then be upset when I see it's gone. I have such a hard time going through with it even though I'm using my extra money.

>> No.7168194

>>7167761
Girl there are so many of us it's not funny.

>> No.7168195

>tfw no lolita girlfriend
>tfw no girlfriend at all
>tfw you live in a city where the comm's too small and some of them are homophobic

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>>7168195
>Tfw you could probably find someone to boink in your comm
>Tfw you would never shit in your own garden
>Tfw wasted opportunity 5ever

My only other option would be to find a girl unrelated to lolita and just dress her up. But then it would be all boink, and no deeply emotional feeling of boinking someone that laughs at your Mr Yan jokes.

>> No.7168211

>tfw only heterosexual married girl in comm.

Please don't take offense, but it makes me feel awkward as fuck. Of the regulars in my comm (you know, the ones you can actually make friends with), I'm the only one who likes the d.

>> No.7168210

all these gay lolita feels.

>tfw bisexual lolita attracted to chubby chicks
>tfw if girlfriend was obtained, we couldn't even wear the same clothes
>tfw no comm or female friends

>> No.7168218

>>7168211
why, do you want someone to sit around and talk about sucking dicks with or something? The only way I could see it making you feel weird is if they are sitting around talking about fucking chicks all the time?

>> No.7168230

>>7168218
that's exactly it anon, I really just joined my comm in the hopes of finding girls to compare fellatio techniques with.

no, it just makes me feel like more of an outsider, since I'm also the oldest.

>> No.7168241

>>7167683
Ha! My favorite!

I once visited Hot Topic to buy a birthday present while wearing otome and carrying that envelope shaped purse from Taobao. I was picking out some things when the gawth cashier man compliments my purse and asked if he could show me the terribad hoodie/backpack monsters they had hanging on the walls.

Like an adult, I internally screamed, deadpanned that I was buying a gift, bought said gift (BMO headphones) and fled the store. I need to remember not to be a jerk next time.

>> No.7168240

>>7168230
no need to get defensive, I just really don't see how liking penis over them liking vagina means you should feel weird, because, like you said, you're not sitting around talking about having sex with people all the time, so why does it make you feel weird...

>> No.7168245

>out at a non-loli event and see a pretty well-known lolita
>know lolita from school, were never friends, just knew in passing
>lolita joins my group of friends to chat for awhile
>the fashion comes up just a little, she asks if i know about it and i say yeah, putting together a few coords
>tells me to contact her on fb so we can hang out in loli together sometime
>broke as shit so still haven't put together a coord i would feel comfortable wearing in public

I'm sorry, I swear I'm not flaking you off. Except I kind of am. Once I get something together I swear I'll get in touch, and I got a job recently so it'll be sooner rather than later.

>> No.7168250

>>7168210
>can't twin with the fat chicks you'd never meet
I feel pretty bad for laughing, especially since I'm in a worse(of my own fault) situation.
>>7168210
It's cute that you lower cased it. You sound like you live in a dreamworld to some girls in this thread. Euro by any chance?

>> No.7168251

>>7168127
Please date me. All the guys I've ever dated wouldn't humor lolita and do kodona or aristocrat or anything and the girls weren't into lolita.

>> No.7168255

I just turned 23 last week. I've lived my entire life hating everything feminine because the only female influences in my life were terrible people. I recently just realized how stupid this was, and have finally stopped being in denial about my love for lolita fashion.

Am I too old to start out as a lolita? I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable by being the granny at the local comm. I like classic and elegant styles, if it makes any difference.

>> No.7168257

>>7168250
bottom comment for >>7168211

>> No.7168260

>>7168255

my comm has girls up into their late twenties, they look fine, most lolitas are post college because that's when we can start affording it, you'll be fine

>> No.7168258

>>7168255
You're fine. Start up your wardrobe.

>> No.7168269

>>7168258
>>7168260
That's a relief to hear - that's exactly it. I was a double major in undergrad and didn't have time to dedicate to non-research work. I've always wanted to cosplay (even before I realized how much I admired lolita fashion) but now that I have the money to actual put into decent clothes I feel like I'm too old to participate. Thanks for setting me straight.

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>>7168210

>tfw crushing on lesbian leader of the comm
>tfw too shy to even talk to her, let alone flirt with her
>tfw staring at her during meets

>> No.7168274

>>7168240
Butting in here to stay married-anon was totally just to get 'defensive', since you started off with the swearing and sex talking first.

She's saying it's another thing that separates her and her comm, not the only thing.

>> No.7168288

>>7168274
well, literally the only reason I could see that they're being gay would alienate her would be if they were talking about sex all the time, which is something she couldn't relate to and instead of answering why she actually does feel awkward around them, she just gives me a flippant reply and gets defensive about it. Sorry it bothers you.

It sounds like it's barriers all in her head, age and what kind of person she chooses to have sex with (is that swearing too, or?) are things she's drawing a line in the sand with, and I doubt the others really care or think about it at all.

>> No.7168309

>>7168255
Well gee I sure hope you aren't too old because I am also 23 and just starting out. Just go for it.

>> No.7168357

>>7168250
>>7168250
no. I live in the country in new england.
no stores here even sell make-up. just anti-wrinkle cream. its hell. dont even have cellphone service.

good luck on everyone else finding their lolita S.O. though!

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7168479

>be mod for local comm fb
>Find out "friend" in comm slept w/ (now ex) boyfriend why we were together
>Ban her from fb group
>abused power, dont feel bad & would do again

>> No.7168577 [DELETED] 

>>7168479
You go loli!

I hope no one ever does anything like that again and that your next partner is much nicer.

>> No.7168584

>>7168479
You go loli!

I hope nothing like that ever happens to you again and that your next partner is much better.

>> No.7168629

>>7168241
I'm usually nice to people if they're being nice; a girl from the same store got really excited and showed me this godawful lacemonster of a dress. I thanked her, said it wasn't my style and we chatted a bit more before I gave her some links. That was the first time I saw her and I haven't seen or heard from her since. She apparently doesn't work there anymore. fml.

The shopstaff from my story made fun of my friend until she wanted not to come back. That's what they do with some customers, as far as I can tell. One guy even said as much to me once. There's jewelry maker they sell from time to time that I think is a local vendor. So I check with them regularly to see if they had them in stock. I asked the guy behind the counter and he said 'no'. So I asked if he knew when they would have them again because it depends. He goes "Or you can just never come back here again."

There has not been a single time I have been to that store where me or someone I'm with hasn't been treated rudely in some way, shape or form. If not that, I see/overhear a staff member being rude to someone else who happens to be in the store. Even if they aren't just annoying windowshoppers who buy nothing.

What sucks is they're a staple of the "bohemian" area of our town and some of their merchandise is pretty cool. If I need something I can't get anywhere else, I'll still go, but only as a last resort. I engage them in conversation as little as possible now and just say whatever it takes to get out of there as fast as I can.

It's funny because I saw one of their staff members on here complaining about how all the Lolita customers are bitchy and snotty. They probably meant me. I'm only 30% sorry. And only because another Lolita in the thread assumed they meant her and felt bad.

>> No.7168645

>>7167573

>be me
>want to cuddle everyone in my comm
>don't have a comm
>feelsbadman

>> No.7168661

Goddamn ladies, seems to me that you are such cunts because you dont get to fulfill your love fantasies or something.

>> No.7168664

>>7167670
Late reply but anon, how did you lose weight? Those are near my measurements and I'm trying to lose weight without any results..

>> No.7168667

>>7168664

My educated guess would be that she used up more calories than she gained trough food.

>> No.7168671

>Starting to really hate one pretentious girl in my comm.
>Finding that everyone else really hates this girl outside her ~*~pureshus~*~ friend circle.
>Mods are waitng for her to fuck-up so they can kick her out.

Plz, o pureshus mana let her fuck up. Her and her loli lap-dogdog are poisonous to the comm.

>> No.7168688

>>7168661
A lot of lolis even have boyfriends or get married when they're out of their 20s. Just kind of bitchy because everything needs to be perfectly proper and prim.

I kind of hope I can keep wearing lolita at times when I'm in my thirties. It'd probably be a little awkward, but I could easily convert the dresses I own into a more refined and aristocratic fashion. That is probably my most embarrassing confession.

>> No.7168692

>>7168688

You know what, wearing things you feel comfortable in even if its crazy as hell probably gets easy if you have someone with you who does not judge. Its a lot easyer getting into the not giving a fuck mentality.

Right now, i just hope i can snag a loli girlfriend to help me get into aristocrat, because i have a terrible fashion sense, and might end up running around in a kilt. And noone wants to see that.

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>>7168688
>I kind of hope I can keep wearing lolita at times when I'm in my thirties. It'd probably be a little awkward, but I could easily convert the dresses I own into a more refined and aristocratic fashion. That is probably my most embarrassing confession.

Same here. I wore Lolita a bunch in my early twenties and my mom shamed me into selling all my clothes. Now that I'm working more steadily, I'm starting to get back into it, but I'm 27 and for a while I felt like I was too old. My current style is pretty heavily inspired by the flasco blog, but I think once I start showing my age, I'll turn to aristocrat. (Although that seems like a warm option for the winter!)

My spirits were lifted when I went to a halloween parade and met a married pair of victorian goths that were in their fifties and looked great. He had a job as an accountant and she was a kindergarten teacher (which is what I want to be). They were lovely.

>> No.7168703

>>7168688
>>7168696
My 'confession' - I'm in my 30's and wear classic lolita. Not gonna stop doing it and I'm not gonna listen to kids young enough to be my offspring when they tell me I'm too old.

>just keep on rocking those frills, ladies.

>> No.7168705

>>7168692
Such is my hope! But finding someone that will not judge is tough. I act strangely by comparison to most people, and it's easy to think of me as a psycho, but I'm really quite understanding if obsessed with making things modest and proper.

>>7168696
Are you a luckier me? I couldn't get into anything at all when growing up and I feel like I wasted so much of my life.

/cgl/, you are like a sociopathic girlfriend. You will beat and harass and scare me until I want to stop existing, and then give me hope for a new future.

Never change.

>> No.7168709

>>7168705

Its Stockholm syndrom. You are trapped here and you can never leave.

>> No.7168713

>>7168705
>I act strangely by comparison to most people, and it's easy to think of me as a psycho, but I'm really quite understanding if obsessed with making things modest and proper.
Tbh, you sound like a creep.

>> No.7168718

>>7167850
>no longer have any hobbies other than lolita
Are you me?

>> No.7168765

>>7168703
This. I'm almost 40. I guess I have a young face or something, but nobody ever asks my age - it has only come up when I make a pop culture reference to something that the 20 year olds are too young to know. I even wear sweet sometimes. I just don't do OTT or the AP "ageplay" prints and it's fine.

>> No.7168780

I am that stuck up bitch lolita that you hear about. I judge everyone and everything. I try my best to hide it, but I'm pretty sure my bitch shows at times.

TBH though, I've always felt like this. Lolita just has ended up becoming my outlet, when I was in high school it was my intelligence. I am good at everything I do, no lie. The fact of the matter is, some people are simply better than others.

In case you were wondering, I am a in fact a Leo.

>> No.7168784

>>7168780

you're probably not all that smart, real smart people don't think they're that smart, and that's all there is to it.

Maybe in your shitty public school you were really something but in the real world you're a small fish in a big pond

>> No.7168785

>>7168780
Judging by the fact that you think zodiac signs hold any weight, you're not nearly as intelligent as you think you are.

>> No.7168787

>>7168780
Ew, gtfo my zodiac sign.

>> No.7168798

>>7168780
Fairly sure you're just bitchy and not smart

>> No.7168801

>>7168780
>>astrological psychobabble to excuse shit behavior
>>being this much of a faggot

Though if I'm being honest, I definitely have an 'inner elitist bitch', but it remains just that--an internal monologue. I've discovered that constructive criticism--when and where it's appropriate and asked for--is the best way for everybody to win. I get to 'get it out of my system' without alienating someone and they improve. Because if it's one thing I love, it's a comeback.

That being said, I extend my high standards to myself and am fully aware that I'm not going to look my absolute best 10 times out of 10. Nor do I think I excel at everything; far from it.

(spoiler alert: I'm also a Leo and tired of people thinking I'm some arrogant attention whore because of this kind of thing)

>> No.7168803

>>7168780
you better be a supermodel astrophysicist who has a more extensive wardobe than each and every e-famous Lolita combined to back up the smack you talk.

>> No.7168811

>>7168780
Post a picture of yourself so that we may praise and worship you for being the most beautiful and intelligent lolita leo.

>> No.7168816

>>7167670
You shouldn't feel bad about it. You hate them because you lost weight and dressed better but those people don't even bother when they could.

>> No.7168818

>have a giant crush on a loli friend
>friend is bisexual and considers me attractive
>friend currently has a boyfriend

Deep inside I want them to break up but I know they're very happy together. I feel like such a horrible person.

>> No.7168830

>>7167957
There are tons of legit bi girls, but they wont be talking to people like you. BI girls dont deal with insecure gays who cant handle the fact she also likes the D.

>> No.7168840

Well, thank you guys for making me ridiculous sad there's no gay girls in my comm.

I just want to be wherever the hell you guys are

>> No.7168846

>>7168803
What smack? Just expressing my sinful inner thoughts. I never once said that I was the best at everything, nor did I say I was better than everyone, just some. In fact, I am simply a fatty chan that passes the same harsh judgement on herself as she does to others. Being good at everything you do does not mean you are the best, in fact it's a problem because you have so many interests and skills that you lack focus. Jack of all trades, master of none.

But I do love how all of you are flaming me, thanks for providing me with some amusement on this otherwise dull afternoon.

>> No.7168854

>>7168629
wtf is this Britain or something? How is that behavior tolerated omg

>> No.7168866

>>7168854
Nah in the UK if this happened the worker would get a warning or fired. If it's an individual business though there's not much you can do if the rude person owns the shop.

>> No.7168896

I know 'lifestyle lolita' doesn't exist, but I would love to have that kind of lifestyle. Just spend all day at home, baking and sewing and doing girly things, while wearing my beautiful dresses. It's my dream situation.

>> No.7168905

>>7168896
I do that. Don't tell me I don't exist. It's only people who are worried about itas being too spechul snowflakey that get mad over it. Same with people who bitch anime and weebs.

>> No.7168910

>>7168905
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend you. I just meant that there's not really a lifestyle that is definitely lolita, since lolita is a fashion so everyone within it has their own hobbies and past times (some girls like video games, some girls like clubbing with their friends, some girls like handmaking things, some girls like shopping etc.)

>> No.7168912

>>7168905
Wow, get over yourself. Just because you like feminine hobbies doesn't make you a better lolita.

>> No.7168919

>>7167646
IT'S ALWAYS AN ITA THREAD

>> No.7168931

>>7167647
>be me
>lolita at convention
>itas everywhere
>all of them constantly give my brand outfit the evil eye
>smile smugly and continue swagging

I'd probably be polite and friendly if any of them approached me... but man, the way both milanoo-tier and con-only-bodyline girls became so goddamn defensive and sulky whenever I showed up really fueled my vanity.

>probably a bad person

>> No.7168991

It seems my boyfriend got me a manikin as a surprise and it worked:
I am surprised and pretty happy about it. It's a pretty basic manikin and it's a lot bigger than me and it cannot be adjusted.
I'm really thankful and all, but I feel I won't be able to use it as much because it's way bigger than my self.
I've never had a manikin before, so I am not sure if this is normal but I still wish I could have gotten one my self.

>> No.7168997

>>7168846
>But I do love how all of you are flaming me, thanks for providing me with some amusement on this otherwise dull afternoon.

You are such a pretentious faggot.

>> No.7169008

>>7168991
...Okay, so it turns out it wasn't my boyfriend and now I have no idea who got it for me.
So that part of the confession is changed, the rest still stands.

>> No.7169055

>>7168479
If she didn't know you guys were together, that's not fair on her.
If she did, whatever I guess.

>> No.7169070

>>7168818
I wish you were talking about me and then we could just secretly get it on under the guise of being lolibestfriends.
>tfw girls never find you attractive ever

>> No.7169075

>>7168991
>manikin
>my*space*self
Da fuq? They should be buying you a dictionary, really.

>> No.7169079

>>7168584
Thanks, me too
>>7169055
she was a mutual friends, and had even been there for our first date & then anniversary party--she knew. We dont need girls like her sluting up our comm anyhow

>> No.7169104

>>7168997
Cunt might be a better term.

This is the second time I've been called a faggot in this thread. Do you guys really have no more original insults in your vocabulary?

>> No.7169105

>>7169075
So...I spelled manikin wrong?
I searched it up and seems I just needed to specify it's a clothing manikin, I just assumed you'd know what it is.

>> No.7169111

>>7169105
Not that anon, but
>manikin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manikin
>mannequin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannequin

There is, apparently, a difference. It's okay, anon. I didn't even know there was a separate term for those anatomical dummies.

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7169115

>>7169104
>>complains about lack of original insults and the use of the term faggot

Welcome to 4chan. I see you didn't get your orientation pamphlet.

>> No.7169119

>>7169111
>English

>> No.7169123

>>7169115
So is exclusive use of the term faggot a prerequisite?

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>>7169123
I think you might be too smart for us. You might want to go hang out on a forum for MENSA members or one where people talk about their tax returns and appreciation of freeform jazz.

>> No.7169147

>>7169119
Yes, that's exactly the language that was being used. Thank you for making that clear.

>> No.7169148

>>7169104
>Cunt might be a better term.

3edgy5me. No, you're just acting gay. Trust us, faggot is perfect way to describe you.

>> No.7169160

>>7168718
>>7167947
I keep reading in these threads about people having a hard time making friends with local lolitas/in general. I've really got to wonder what's up with that. When I was a teen, I had some trouble making friends because I was shy. Got over it in high school, made lots of friends there and in college, but now I'm back in a phase where I'm having trouble connecting with people. I really wish I knew wtf was going on there.

>> No.7169163

>>7169160
I think there are a lot of reasons for this. I know I personally found it hard to make friends with my local comm because I literally had nothing in common with them outside of lolita. And you can only talk about frills with someone for so long before. In other cases, it can be difficult to come into an existing group, if there's already established friendships with in jokes, you can feel really awkward and left out. And then of course, quite a few lolitas are a bit socially awkward and shy, so that doesn't help matters either.

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>>7168780
That's nice, sweetie.

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7169183

>>7168780
>>7168846
>>7169104

Holy shit, did you just come from TV Tropes? You sound like the female lolita equivalent of a fedora wearing atheist brony.

>> No.7169189

>>7169183
How did you know?!

>> No.7169205

>>7169008
I hope you actually know who got it for you. A mannequin is probably one of the creepiest things to get as a surprise gift.

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>>7168780
You shame our leo name and our pride.
You know nothing of the word or even what that stands for.
I hope your humbling will strike swift and soon.

>> No.7169238

>>7168840
if there are at least 15 in your come there has to be one, even if closeted
one of my lolita friends is gay but never had the opportunity to bring it up so nobody knows. so you never know!

>> No.7169245

>>7167606
>>7168931
I'm kind of worried about this. I don't really buy brand name because I'm not loaded, but I will buy things off Bodyline or other websites(but not milanoo) to give myself something to modify and work with. I'm not really a dressmaker-tier seamstress, but I'm getting used to resizing a dress to fit me and tacking on lace and temporary decorations. A Bodyline dress is perfect for this use, lacking too much detail on it's own and not being a tremendous loss if I critical-fail.

Am I literally Hitler for doing this?

>> No.7169249

>>7169205
I bet I know them, it was probably a family member from back home who got it for me. They know I sew and they also know of my troubles without a mannequin. A note would have been nice, though.

>> No.7169252

>>7169245
No. Most of the time, people don't give a shit about brand vs. handmade vs. Bodyline. It's only when you've got a shitty attitude that people make a correlation between what you're wearing and what kind of person you are, typically.

/cgl/ doesn't really count for much on that front, because we're all here to vent/be bitchy without our faces on. Typically, it isn't going to make a difference.

>> No.7169254

>be me
>inspire friend into lolita
>has terrible as fuck taste
>ita as hell
>still want him to be lolita with me even if this is all he'll ever wear
I can't help him, nothings his size and antaina doesn't even do his shoe size so ahoy stilletos w/ sweet loli dress. he loves what he's wearing so I don't want to spoil his fun. I think of it as like he just hasn't gotten the make-coordinates part of the fun of lolita, and stuck in 'wearing froofy dresses I couldn't when I was a child!!"

>> No.7169258

>>7169245
You're perfectly fine as long as you look good and have a nice attitude about it.
Even when you've got someone who coords well with brand, if their attitude sucks, then it's a given people won't like them, the only difference is that most people can only pick at their personality then and not their clothing. The 'ew Bodyline' part seems like it's only there for more fuel. The only time it's really relevant if they rant and rave about Bodyline and how "superior" it is to brand, and as long as you don't do that, I don't think anyone really cares if you wear Bodyline as long as you make it work.

>> No.7169277

>>7169252
>>7169258
Understood. Thank you for the advice! I worry too much, maybe.

>> No.7169283

>>7167665
i remember you anon

you should have burned their clothes tbh

>> No.7169285

>>7168136
You two should try twinning in a country lolita coord! With floral-prints and straw hats and basket-purses, country is the perfect half-and-half blend of sweet and classic. Plus, when you're not twinning, either of you could reuse the same dress in a full-classic or full-sweet coord by just changing your accessories, bag, tights, etc. It would be sooooo adorable!!

>> No.7169327

>>7168854
I live in America. The store in question is kind of like a mom and pop version of Hot Topic.

>> No.7169384

>>7168830
this

>> No.7169444

>>7167676
Not all lesbians are butch. There is a high chance there are lesbians in your local comm even.

>> No.7169468

I altered precious burando to fit my non-Japanese body.

>> No.7169539

>>7168703
This so much. The obsession of young lolitas with age is a bit weird, imho. Unless they're all into OTT sweet, there's no reason to feel bad for enjoying the fashion when you reach your 30s. Just stop the obsession with age and start obsessing more about actually looking good in what you are wearing regardless of how old you are.

>> No.7169635

>>7169539
Over 30 and rock that OTT sweet. Though I'm a little depressed that I can start to see faint signs of aging showing up. Gotta rock it while I still can. I'll probably move over to more sweet/classic and classic around 35ish and sell off the super-pastel stuff by then though.

>> No.7169643

>>7169539
>Unless they're all into OTT sweet
I get your message, but saying things like this is kind of contradictory. They can wear anything they want at whatever age they want, I'm not going to say

>You rock that at 35 girl!
>Well unless it's like, pink and with a bonnet, noooo

Just kind of silly to say 'do what you want!' but then flavor it with 'well unless I personally think it looks dumb'

>> No.7169652

>>7169635
oh, do you have any pictures I could see? I'm 26 and love sweet, in darker color ways though, hoping I can continue wearing it for a long time.

>> No.7169714

>>7169652
Temp email in field. I'm not always fond of self-posting. But I'll send you a link to my tumblr where I have most of my outfits.

I have a few things that are in black colorways, but I find cool colors and pastels in general tend to work best on me. Though black tends to be more universal with coording options, especially with more colorful prints. I've tried gothic and more mature styles, but I think it brings me a little closer to my true age and it doesn't really suit me as well, but it may just be my makeup and wig-color/style choices. Full pastel overload, I get mistaken for early 20's. Normal clothes around 24-26. I'll be turning 32 in about a month.

>> No.7169756

>>7167779
My pain is 3/4 of my comm are lesbians or bi, But all of them are already dating eachother, or another girl outside of the group

>> No.7169759

>>7169714
>I've tried gothic and more mature styles, but I think it brings me a little closer to my true age and it doesn't really suit me as well

This so much.

>> No.7169772

>>7169714
I sent you an email.

>> No.7170041

>>7169079
Your welcome :) I think I know you by the way and this is absolutely horrible to of happened to you :(

>> No.7170073

>>7169245
It's perfectly fine to buy and wear Bodyline/offbrand. Especially if you're willing to work on it to suit your frame and style.
I use BL often as an everyday casual loli wear that's still cute but I'm not afraid of ruining.

I do however have a beef with girls who treat lolita exclusively as con costume whilst not willing to put any effort, thought and/or money into it.
I understand keeping more OTT coords to cons only. But just throwing on a very meh dress with whatever you already had lying around in your normal closet and then acting like I'm somehow maliciously upstaging you (and openly gossiping about it to your friend) is not going to win anyone over.
Though to be fair there were two girls outside of loli (one in cosplay and one in fairy kei) with whom I had a great talk about favourite styles, prints and such.

Like people before me said, it's all in the attitude.

>> No.7170108

>>7169759
same
But I still hear of the suggestion one shouldnt try a style because they have the wrong face for it, like the girl who wanted a dolly look in the makeup forum
too wimpy to make a board for it but i reckon something like the Cosplay Suggestions thread but for fashion styles would be great to lead people to the right direction for they could try rocking out in, not that doing whatever fashion you like is wrong though, just like the cosplay suggest thread, itd be interesting to see what people think
>see why i didnt make a thread
>im so long winded

>> No.7170187

>>7168780
There's no way this is real.

>> No.7170191

>>7168846
>But I do love how all of you are flaming me, thanks for providing me with some amusement on this otherwise dull afternoon.

People who respond to hate with "lololol haters amusing soooo funny" are taking it super personally. That excuse is so transparent and I don't know why people keep using it. Nobody ever believes stuff like that and it just makes you look like you're new to life and the internet.

>> No.7170288

I once subtly smeared lipstick on the back of a girl I hate who was wearing a white Gothic Arch. To this day she has no idea who did it and thinks she leaned against something.

>> No.7170294

>>7170191
Thising so hard right now

>> No.7170296

I have dedicated hours upon hours of thought to the subject and have determined I definitely would be willing to kill a small child I had no connection to for certain lolita items.

>> No.7170297

>>7170288
I don't care if you hate the girl, why would you ruin that dress?! Not only is it beautiful, but it's iconic and rather rare.

>> No.7170303

>>7169468
There's no problem with that really as long as the alterations are subtle and you don't try to sell it for what an unaltered version would go for like this girl >>7170128

You'd look much better for it if the alterations were well done than if you stuffed yourself into a dress. That is unless you're 200 pounds and warp the proportions of the dress completely.

My confession: sometimes when I look at dresses, it feels so painful knowing that I can't justify buying them right now that I have to just look away. Other times, I get kinda turned on. I don't understand the latter, I don't want to have sex with the dresses, I just get a bit turned on. Maybe because I'm too passionate about all of this.

>> No.7170305
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7170305

> go to meet up
> I want to fuck these girls so damn bad
> hurts so bad I don't want to see it anymore

Ride the feels, man.

>> No.7170308

>Be at meet
>This ita always pulls up her skirt in pictures for the illusion of having a petti
>Comes to me, OH MY GOD THE SMELL
>Starts gossiping with others about this cosplayer who is also a Lolita
>Starts innocently asking who is the girl
>Ita excitedly tells me everything
>Said cosplayer is a long time friend and ita does not know I am a cosplayer
>Shall have fun time telling friend about the things I heard

>> No.7170349

>>7168255
I started when I was 24. Go for it, Anon!

>> No.7170351

>>7170288
You are a shitty human being.

>> No.7170356

>>7170303
Yeah, I just lengthened the JSK straps, since my boobs were eating the bodice.

>> No.7170357

>>7170288
Worse than >>7168780.

>> No.7170439

>>7168703
Confession? I'm 10 years older than you and I still wear gothic/classic. Frills 'till I'm dead.

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>>7168780
Top kek

>> No.7170485

>only hobby is lolita
>all my friends are lolitas
>never meet any guys
>will never get a boyfriend

>> No.7170491

>>7170485
Solution is simple anon. Become the lesbian.

>> No.7170514

>>7170491
Disgusting

>> No.7170564

>>7170303
Oh god, the turned on bit. I know EXACTLY what you mean. I feel the same way when I buy a dress or an item I've set my sights on - I get so excited and I just want to... well I say have sex with the dress, but again, it's not a fetish or sex thing. I think it's just the rush of spending a lot of money on something fantastic.

>> No.7170624

Mine is pretty tame, but I wish my girlfriend wore more lolita. I mean, she's cute with normal clothes, but owns like 1 or 2 pieces at most.

Something about that lolita dress that makes my heart melt and want to do... stuff with her.

>> No.7170857
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7170857

I always feel bad for girls with unfortunate faces in lolita, but at the same time am disgusted by them. I know it's not something they can help, but some lolitas I will always hate no matter how good their coords are because I find their faces terrifying.

Pic is just one of many lolitas I've seen on tumblr with a fugly face but otherwise good coord

>> No.7170887

>>7170857
I wouldn't say she's ugly, just a litle plain, just needs to improve her makeup and pluck her eyebrows

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>>7170857
Now this shit's an unfortunate face.

>> No.7170893

>>7170887
She'd benefit from some nicer glasses or contacts too.

>> No.7170912

>Wants to be fucked in Lolita dresses
>Boyfriend declines, afraid of ruining the dresses

Maybe I should be more aggressive. But he has no problem when I'm in outfits like seifuku.

>> No.7170918

One of the exchange students from Japan was wearing bodyline but i couldnt tell because of how well she coorded it.

>> No.7170919

>>7170890
Ugh oh dear. Her coord is so cute but she's so.......

>> No.7170923

>>7170890>>7170890
Ashley is some serious medical case, if I was as rich as her I'd be spending my money getting my face fixed rather than some obscure japanese frills. She could probably apply for Let Me In or something, it's so extreme it likely falls under the category of not being able to function normally because she's so ugly. Some double jaw surgery, serious chin reduction, eye lift, nose job, and lots of cheek and forehead fillers. I hate her whore/stage-heavy make-up look, like she's about to jump on a broadway production any minute. But looking as she does, it's probably the only thing short of wearing a mask that will draw attention away from the rest of her face.

>> No.7170938

>>7170890
it's uncanny - she looks so much like alaska from rupaul's drag race. she's probably gotten that comment a lot...

great coord though, definitely.

>> No.7170942

I'm working on my lolita 'debut'. I've been into the fashion for a year and a half now, and have no online presence except for buying and selling and posting anonymously here. I have lookbook, lj, lolibrary accounts all under the same name with nothing posted. I don't attend any meets, and have no irl lolita friends. I want to have the perfect wardrobe, the perfect coords, and perfect style before I debut myself. I'm also losing weight, growing my hair out, and getting plastic surgery too.

It sounds a bit psychotic, but it's not really just about lolita. I'm in a blank space between life stages right now, and I want to spend this time becoming my own ideal person. I'm also perfecting my cooking and baking, and taking more care of my health. I've always been chubby, geeky, and not very popular. I want to change everything I hate about myself, and lolita aesthetics is also a big part of that. Does this sound stupid? I know lots of e-famous lolitas who've started out online, like Herajika, and have lots of unflattering photos or coords out there. I don't want this to happen to me, I never want to be seen as a noob.

>> No.7170950

>>7170942
I'm happy that you're taking care of yourself and doing a lot of research/preparation, but you can never avoid at least a bit of noobery.

There are certain things that can only be learned from putting yourself out there. Even if you come out with some really good coords now, you will think at least one is bad in the future. You also can't control candid pictures that get taken at meets.

Even 'good' lolitas get bad comments, so I wouldn't stress about it so much. If you don't end up enjoying lolita because you want everything to be perfect, it would be a real shame.

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7170956

>have non-lolita friend who steals JSK that i've hunted down for years
>i confront her about it, but to no avail
>she deletes me out of her life and moves away
>still never get JSK back
>never tell anybody other than the few people in my old comm about it
i've lost contact with her completely and there's no return

>> No.7170987

>>7170303
If you alter it to fit actual plus size you may be able to sell something for the same or even more than an unaltered version. When I first got into lolita I had a 42" waist and had some secondhand brand skirts altered to fit me. When I lost weighit I put them up for sale on lj and a plus size friend advised me to start them a bit higher-priced than I expected to get, since I was not in a rush and could relist them at a discount. They all sold above what I paid for the skirts + the alterations and a couple were near retail. There are so few brand options for plus size girls, especially the few who won't do replicas, that they will snatch that stuff up when it's available.

>> No.7171008

>>7170942
You too? I'm a brolita using /fit/ to reach final form, thank goodness for the trapping threads. If I ask for advice there, I never tell them it's for the fashion. I will start wearing a corset once I'm a size than can be compressed to a size 1(US).
I'm saving up for the IW packs that come out in april, then make auxiliary purchases so I can make decent coords. All brand, I don't mind being "the brandwhore", I just have to make sure I don't act like a bitch(dick?) to the people in the comm I plan to join. Full filters between my brain and my mouth, I probably don't wanna mention I'm a ceegbro to them unless they themselves will say they are gulls.
This may sound pretty dicks, but I wish I had a high level burandobro that made all the mistakes befre that can take me under his wing(no homo).

capt: fit swarms

>> No.7171096

I'm not going to reveal too many details but:

>have spoiled friend who gets whatever dress she wants from her rich boyfriend
>get revenge on my two-faced shit talking friend by borrowing her brand and smoking a whole pack of cigs in it
>"Oh sorry I was outside on the patio a lot"

Good luck selling it bitch.

>> No.7171101

>>7171096
plot twist: she is not selling it she will use it to fuck his bf since its already ruined and there is no need for cash

>> No.7171107

>>7171096
You do know that you can get the smell of cigarettes out of clothes fairly easily, right?

I have bought dresses from smokers, and even the one that reeked to the high heavens before I opened it smelt normal again after I aired it out and dry cleaned it.

You're only hurting yourself by smoking all those cigarettes, how stupid.

>> No.7171124

>>7168896
>>7168905
This is also me. All I do all day is play with my cats, go online for lolita related things, read shoujo manga, and bake. However who the hell dresses up in full lolita to mix cake batter?

>> No.7171139

I hate wearing lolita, I love looking at it and putting together co-ordinates, but as soon as I put it on I feel like a complete moron. The only thing that's stopping me from selling my entire wardrobe are peoples responses when they find out what I own.

>> No.7171140

>>7171124
where is your income from?

>> No.7171142

>>7167679
One time I received a dress in the mail that smelled horrid, but the girl was really nice and I just didn't have the heart to tell her that she have a bad taste in perfume, and her wardrobe smells like mothballs, so I aired it out and carried on.

>> No.7171144

>>7170857
Pick the worst picture of me and probably one of my worst coords to demonstrate that I am an ugly hot mess. I mean, I look like a washed-out tomato in bright pink. I know I have an ugly nose, (and a fat face-- working on the weight, and fucked up teeth that I'm finally getting work done on because insurance) but it could be a lot worse. I got everything from my mom except her giant bird beak.
>>7170887
I'm actually pretty good at makeup, and I regularly pluck/shape/fill in my eyebrows, but the hot pink and particular color/shape of the wig did nothing for me and washed me out. Plus the glasses and reflection cover most of anything I did with my eyes. But I think I may have skimped a little since this one was taken at a convention where I was doing artist alley and I was probably in a rush that morning to get ready so I could get my table set up. I think it was the only decent full body I had of this outfit.
>>7170893
I'm due for a new prescription soon. But I can't wear contacts due to a plethora of eye issues. I usually take them off for pictures at the moment. These glasses worked better when I was like 200lbs and my face was really round, but they're not particularly flattering now.

>> No.7171145

>>7171144
you probably should have just... let this one go

>> No.7171149

>>7167665
A blouse is worth so much more... wish you went a little further ;)

>> No.7171151

>>7167704
I feel this way too. I get by with having a few really good onlline friends whom I visit every so often and a lot of (time consuming) hobbies and personal projects. It helps that I'm introverted I suppose

>> No.7171154

>>7170356
I'm thinking of lengthening the straps on my JSK because with my bust the bodice (which was already short) shortens even more and looks ridic. I wanted to use a ribbon of the same color/make as the kind used for embellishment on the dress, which'd be different to the fabric and print and stand out, but would still match the overall look, but idk, I'm terrified of fucking up or worse, looking like a fat-ass idiot when I do wear it.

>> No.7171156

>>7168136
Classic-sweet?

>> No.7171157
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>>7170923
anon put some care into writing

>> No.7171160

>>7168801
I'm not a leo and I feel you on this so much. Although I think I do a great job at hiding it, I get the feeling that smarter girls kind of get this vibe from me and keep at a distance. Maybe it's the guilt.

>> No.7171177

>>7170294
>thising

please go.

>> No.7171206

i shouldn't be here. i have no money for this. i make around $200 a month, that all goes to living expenses, why the fuck am i buying lolita?!

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>sells drugs to buy brand
>the end

>> No.7171214

>>7171144
You really should have let this one go. The girl didn't even say your coord was bad, so i'm not sure why you are trying to defend that part

>> No.7171215

>>7171154
Draw a picture of it on Paint? It's a bit hard to picture what you mean. But maybe because I'm tired.

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>>7171215

My paint skills are terrible but I can't find my stylus for my tablet, but hopefully the scribbles convey what I mean. I'm just sort of humming and ahhing because obvi I want it to look good, even if it's going to be obvious it's altered. I'm just... not sure.

>> No.7171231

>>7171227
It's all good, it's clearer now what you meant. I think if you added an antique looking claspy type thing in between where the fabrics join it could look cool. If you genuinely love the dress and don't plan to sell it anytime soon, do it.

>> No.7171234

>>7171227
Don't try to make it match spot on, because it won't. But if you make it complementary then it could work. You'll need something over the join, like >>7171231 suggested, but other than that it should look alright.

>> No.7171242

>>7168765
>>7169635
>>7170439

Glad to know I'm not the only one! The rest of my comm knows I'm 40+ but they're all pretty cool about it, at least to my face, and I have no intention of ditching my frills any time soon. Weirdly, lolita has become an excellent incentive to take proper care of my skin: if I spent $400 on a dress, I can damn well spend five minutes a night pampering my face so I can still wear said dress without looking ridic.

>> No.7171247

>>7168787
the majority of people are born in august, and therefore are Leos, why dont you and your ignorance gtfo MY zodiac

>> No.7171274

>>7171231
>>7171234

Okay, thanks guys, hiding/decorating the seem/join didn't even occur to me. I'll play with it some more and if I find something that all works well together I'll go for it! I don't plan on reselling the dress so I'm not worried about value. Thanks for the weigh-ins guys.

>> No.7171282

> be me
> buy a really rare/expensive dress that's on a lot of Dream Dress lists
> am taking dress to a seamstress to have it altered down to fit me
> am killing resale value and giving zero shits. it's never going to leave my wardrobe anyhow

>> No.7171341

>>7171247
The majority of people? You mean more than 50% of all babies are born in August? Wow, that's an amazing statistic.

>> No.7171381

>>7168664
Even later reply, but I lost weight by becoming vegan. Right now I'm trying to lose more/tone up by running.

>> No.7171397

>>7167599
Good fucking job

>> No.7171402

>>7171282
And? I don't see what the big deal is, if you can't fit it and you want to then get it fixed. There's no reason not to.

>> No.7171410

>>7171247
Is this like the SJW take on zodiac?

>> No.7171411
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here's my confession: I have a closet full of brand, lots of wanted/popular stuff, but I've been so fucking afraid of washing them in fear that the prints might run or that they will get ruined somehow. I just looked at the prints that can be washed and found that basically all of my stuff can apparently be machine washed which is a giant relief, but I would still rather handwash them. To anyone that has popular printed dresses and have handwashed them with good results, please post, I'm so nervous and my clothes need to be washed...

>> No.7171417

>>7171411
If you're that scared wash it in ice water with a delicate, natural handwashing detergent.

>> No.7171419

>>7171417
that's the current plan...I'm still nervous as fuck.

>> No.7171430

>>7171411
Just do a test somewhere unnoticable first. Wet the small spot and then blot whote paper towel on it to see if the dye runs. Then let the spot dry and check if the details of the print are still crisp and colors are fine.
If everything's okay, you can safely handwash it, just don't use bleach, strong detergents or hot water. Of course remove any bows, pearls, chains and such first, so nothing rusts.
My dresses are supposedly machine-safe too, but I always handwash them and they haven't faded, piled, runned or ripped in all years I've owned them.

>> No.7171489

>>7168288
The married part sure would alienate her, though. I've been in a happy relationship for over 3 years, and trying to talk to some single or yo-yo daters is hell.

And then all the comments of, "Oh, Anon, you're so lucky that you don't have to deal with this. You're relationship life is perfect and you're so lucky! Tell me how to get a long term relationship!"
Bitch please. I'd much rather deal with figuring out who I'm going to take home tonight or where I'm going on my 3rd date and still being courted than having to deal with fucking insecurities and deep set issues that take months to even acknowledge.
I had one girl tell me how lucky I was the day after I had a night of fighting with my partner, and all I could do is nod because I can barely talk about my issues with my partner, let alone someone I just met.

>> No.7171500

>>be 27
>>struggle with mental illness privately for a long time
>>live with/take care of mother who's also depressed and refusing to get help as well as heart patient, alcoholic father who turns into dick when he drinks
>>too tired to put effort into Lolita on days when not crying in bed and willing self to die
>>sell wardrobe
>>regret it immediately
>>finally have a breakdown and get hospitalized for a week
>>lose job as a result and spend half savings on treatment
>>get formal diagnosis and medication
>>visit therapist once a week and go to group
>>anxiety still too severe to manage safe driving even with medication, okay with taking bus/train
>>get jobs substituting at different schools until accepted into Teach For America, get certified to teach or find a job at a private school where certification doesn't matter
>>start showing interest in some old hobbies, mainly Lolita
>>come clean to some friends about some of the shit that's been happening for the last 10+ years
>>tfw some of them still judge me as an "un-employed" loser who still lives with her parents
>>tfw they don't understand that taking pills doesn't magically make everything better and some days are still incredibly shitty even though I'm working really hard
>>tfw I must look like another PT to them because I'm not brutally honest and lighten the severity of my problems by joking about them

I went to a Halloween party last night and overheard a friend's husband talking about how I'm going nowhere in life and needed to 'get over myself' because I had no reason to be depressed. He said that because I liked Lolita that meant I had 'no concept of reality and would never be a worthwhile member of society'. My friend was right there. I wasn't expecting her to jump to my defense or anything, but still.

I'm going to talk to my friend about it, but part of me just wants to spend less time with that group of friends and just focus on the supportive people in my life, frills, teaching and recovery.

>> No.7171505

>>7167779

Les!Loli here. I used to live in Austin, and chances of finding gay girls there are ridiculously slim, too. There are a few, but they're either a) gross or b) already u-hauled with someone else.

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>>7169160
Are you me? When I was in later high school and early college I was a social butterfly. It was funny because I was so shy in my younger years.

Now I can't pay people to hang out with me. I ended up going to the bar alone dressed as a clown last night.

I think it's because in college and upper high school people are so open to making friends because that's the thing that you're supposed to do, but then if you change where you are and where you don't know anyone it's hard because everyone already has their friends, so why should they make a new one?

I'm not trying to blame other people (there's obviously things wrong with me), but damn, I thought cliques were for high school, son.

>> No.7171516

>>7171500
I'm so sorry, Anon. Fuck that guy, and I'm sorry your friend couldn't say shit back. It's so hard when the people around you don't/can't understand. It hurts.

>> No.7171540

>>7171500
It's better to just cut people off if they're judging you for not having the awesomest job ever while also while heavily medicated. One of the most talented and educated people I know works at fucking Autozone, that's just how life turns out sometimes.

>> No.7171545

>>7169160
>>7171510
Anons you are also me.

Same thing here with the shy childhood, social butterfly teen, now isolated adult.
How do I get from being in a social scene with someone to the bit where you can call them at 3am to watch tv with them? It was never this hard before, my confidence is getting so bad from it that I must smell of all kinds of desperate.

>> No.7171559

>>7171381
I know a lot of fat vegans, be careful anon.
It's like their lives become quests in to finding food they can eat and like, it consumes them.

>Look vegan cake!
>And donuts!
>And pizza!
>AND I CAN EAT IT ALL

>> No.7171565

>>7171516
To be honest, I'm more frustrated than hurt. I know part of it is my own fault because I bottled it up and hid it for so long, but it still sucks to have someone react like that. Especially because I'm glad I finally sought help and feel like I've been making a considerable effort towards recovery. I guess they don't realize that it's more than just 'feeling sad' or 'having problems'. I can't get them to understand that my anxiety about driving goes beyond normal 'driver's anxiety', either. It's not something that's going to go away by just 'practicing until I get over it' on its own like they seem to think. I want to be able to drive someday and I'm working on it, but I'm still at a point where it's unsafe for me to be on a road with cars (my vision blurs, I lose all coordination and on a few occasions I've acted blindly and don't always remember what I've done.) I want to make sure I'm comfortable enough behind the wheel that I don't endanger others and they don't seem to get that.

I've also explained to them that my therapy and medication is pretty expensive even with insurance. And a good chunk of my pay check goes towards paying my parents rent as well as a few other expenses. So I wouldn't be able to afford to move out right now, even though I want to.

Although I guess I shouldn't really be taking much stock in what this guy's saying since he lives at home too. (He and my friend live in an apartment above his dad's garage). I think because he makes 70k a year, he thinks that exempts him? I don't know. Either way, I'm going to talk to them about it. I doubt he'll understand any more than before or be at all sympathetic, but it would help to get it off my chest

>> No.7171584

>>7171565
>>I want to make sure I'm comfortable enough behind the wheel that I don't endanger others and they don't seem to get that.

I would rather someone refuse to drive because they have the balls to admit they're not a safe driver, tbh. People who are too nervous to drive safely or too dumb to care/pay attention cause most accidents, I'm sure.

That guy sounds like a colossal sphincter, btw.

>> No.7171586

>>7171565
If you haven't read it, I recommend checking out Hyperbole and a Half's "Adventures in Depression" and "Depression Part 2". It puts into words something that can be so hard to explain to people who aren't depressed.

>> No.7171591

>>7171559

I knew a fat vegetarian. All she did with her mom was eat taco bell all day.You have to do it smart - just because you cut out meat and/or animal products doesn't mean that fat magically disappears from the diet. You also have to take into account that there may be less filling foods now - some planning and combo-ing various proteins should take care of that, but people can still feel hungry afterwards.

My personal bias is because you're planning so much by being vegetarian that you can watch what you eat more, and become more fit by virtue of that. I also do believe being vegetarian is slightly healthier in itself, and I love meat too much to give it up.

>> No.7171743

>>7171584
>>7171586
Echoing these anons.

We understand that you've got your struggles, and we support you. Don't let the douchetits get you down.

>> No.7171893

I'm worried about my friend, she used to be down to earth and fun to be around but now she puts on fake airs and pretends to be kawaii by pulling stupid poses, pretending to fall over and making "cute" noises. I've tried telling her but she doesn't listen.

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This is what my first ever coord looked like. It had flat short sleeves that were attached to princess sleeves by a strip down the center of the arm. Monster lace everywhere. Maxi pad headdress. No wig, terrible makeup. I was so damn proud of myself.

No pictures exist of it (I think), but it will forever haunt me.

Also, I constructed a makeshift headbow out of waist ties one time. Dark, dark times.

>> No.7171928

>>7171559
I know a fat vegetarian, now instead of eating meat she just eats whole bags of chips slathered in cheese sauce.

>> No.7171970

>>7171559
Vegan anon here: I see what you mean, but I'm also very conscious of what I eat. I have a really fucking slow metabolism, so I'm careful about my fat and sugar intake. I avoid buying high-fat foods or sweets (in fact, most -- if not all -- of my daily fat intake comes from hummus and various nut products).

>> No.7171971

>>7171928
dif anon and vegan:

Yes it is extremely easy to be an unhealthy vegan or vegetarian (fucking french fries are vegan from fast food places ever since McDonald's was sued for using beef extract in their fries back in early 2000) because you get these people who do absolutely no research, sub in all their protein with soy (which is incomplete and should not be a main protein substiture) with no protein rotations, and stuff their faces with potatoes and Oreos (yes, vegan)

So to the anon who asked about losing weight, if you do decide to go vegan or vegetarian I really want to try and dissuade you from doing it simply for weight loss. I don't want that to be your main motivator because I feel that's kind of a dangerous road to take (I imagine someone cutting back on ALL food as well as removing all meat and not supplementing their meals properly or buying any kind of vitamins/supplements and becoming sick from ignorance)

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>>7170288
I heard this story a year ago, but it was ketchup on a white Iron Gate.

>> No.7172000

>>7171971
pretty much this.
there's a number of nutrients that are significantly harder to get if you are vegan (Vitamin B12 being a big one)

Personally I think its easier to lose weight if you dont drop the dairy/eggs (the vegan replacements for those are just weird)

>> No.7172024

>>7172000
Thankfully these days most almond milk has B12 added, and my one a day I take also has bacteria grown B12 (as opposed to a gelatin medium; saying it's bacteria grown is kind of an oxymoron I guess)

I always kind of laugh (I'm not a moral vegan) because I guess bacteria isn't enough of an animal for them to take issue with it.

sage for ot, my bad

>> No.7172201

>>7167571
I desperately wish a sextape of Mana would be released, or a first-hand account shared with us of what he's like in bed. I NEED TO KNOW if my dark, speechless rori god(dess) is a top or a bottom. It plagues me. I have had dreams of being in some dark castle with other lolitas, and Mana lurks there and displays all this burando on medieval tables and beds and sometimes he takes a few girls at a time to another room to have their lolita-ness judged, and throws them out of the castle if he sees them unfit for the fashion. We don't get told what he thinks of them. They just disappear if he doesn't like them.

I'm not even a hardcore gosu rori. I just really want to know things about Mana. Dirty, dirty things.

>> No.7172205

>>7167819
There was literally no point to your post. Leave and take your shitty 'ironic' emoticons with you.

>> No.7172211

>Own actual Vampire Requiem in lavender
>BF wants to photograph me in it for some art project of his
>he ends up accidentally getting ink on bodice
>red ink on my burando
>many trips to the dry cleaners and much oxyclean later, ink stain is gone
>BF dumps me a month later (for unrelated reasons)
>regret not making him pay dry cleaning bills

>> No.7172217

>>7167679
>Girl on the sales comm sells me my dream dress
>Arrives, super excited
>Is in weird box. Okay, maybe they just have weird colorful post boxes in France?
>open it
>Instantly a cloud of noxious gas reeking of degenerating plastic and possibly moth balls fills my nostrils and the immediate vicinity
>After recovering from the initial shock, try airing out the dress in my yard for three hours
>Doesn't work
>It's a printed dress. AATP is known for having some runny prints
>PM the girl saying the dress smells awful and can she please reimburse me for dry cleaning
>Tell her the kinds of smells are emitting and does she have any ideas what the fuck that's about?
>She says she re-used a reasonably new shoe box someone sent her from Finland
>Since it was a new shoe box, she doesn't see how it could smell
>Freaking out
>Look up online that white vinegar stops prints from running
>I'm Asian. I don't have white vinegar in my kitchen. Just rice vinegar with added flavorings, not any pure shit or whatever the internet is referring to
>Fuck it. I think I'm just going to wash it. There are no reds in the print, just black, blues, and some brown
>Welp, HERE GOES NOTHING!
>Dunk a waist tie in hot water, hoping for the best
>wait
>wait
>wait
>PRINT IS NOT RUNNING! FUCK YEAH SEAKING
>Wash the entire dress with normal detergent and hot water.
>PM the girl back that I was able to wash the shitty smell of Finnish shoes out of the dress
>everythingwentbetterthanexpected.jpg

>> No.7172218

>>7171992
Yeah, I remember the ketchup/Iron Gate story. Except the Iron Gate OP is polyester, so anything will wash out of it. Gothic Arch is cotton, I believe, so here's to hoping anon was making shit up.

>> No.7172222

>>7167968
>worn or pwned bloomers
>pwned bloomers
>pwned
I really hope that wasn't a typo. I've never pwned bloomers, either. I imagine it's something along the lines of shitting one's pants?

>> No.7172220

>>7171893
Start bitching to her about online people that pull this shit. Send her links to freelice message boards and things where people are spewing hate about Venus' voice or whatever.
She had to stop.

>> No.7172224

>>7168122
lol I was wondering who the second person harassing Charms was. I like you, anon. We work towards a worthy cause. May all tripfags rot in internet hell.

>> No.7172231

>>7168255
You're a great age to start. When you're in your 20s, you're young enough to still experiment with the lolita "look" you want to create for youself (without instantly appearing like you're trying to fit into a younger girls' fashion or anything) and you're old enough to make your own money to buy your own burando, unlike the highschool girls who have to take money from their parents. You're absolutely not too old to start! Have fun!

>> No.7172237

>>7169139
That was funny, especially freeform jazz

>> No.7172238

>>7168696
L? Is that you?

>> No.7172239

>>7171242
I totally feel you on the face thing. Getting into lolita makes me feel like taking better care of my skin, body, health because if I'm going to buy the pretty dress, I'm going to make sure I look as good as I can in it!

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>>7168846
>pretending you aren't just a troll
>okay.jpg

>> No.7172244

>>7172239
THIS.

I took horrible care of myself until I got into Lolita. Now I actually do stop and readjust my hair, properly treat my skin and hair, exercise and eat better, and my life is just about the best it's ever been because of it.

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>>7170923
Laughing so hard I'm literally crying. Oh lawd. Truth.

>> No.7172267

>>7171139
Why don't you tell us what you own so we can give you those responses? wink wink

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>move to the other side of the world to be with bf
>have no friends in new country
>go to meet lolitas at a con, to make some friends
>mfw they're all boring as fuck

>> No.7173542

>>7168664
Why do people always ask this? It's literally just math. Calories in < calories out, and you'll lose. It's not that hard. Just log your food and you'll lose weight.

>> No.7173543

>>7173542
The human body is actually more complicated than that. If you don't eat enough, your body works to conserve nutrition, and often makes it worse.

>> No.7173552

>>7170942
Anon, you're literally me. I'm doing EVERYTHING you're doing for both cosplay and lolita.

>> No.7173556

>>7173543
0/10 Yes there are rare cases of extreme thyroid/hormone/genetic problems, but those are like fucking unicorns. Why do people still believe this shit? If you're eating 500 calories a day there's no way you're gaining weight, fat conservation or otherwise. I had a girl in my grade whose mother was a cardiac surgeon, she took higher level Biology, and still believed your body burned muscle instead of fat when you cut calories. Yes, in EXTREME cases where your bfp is 2% and you haven't eaten in a week, your body will conserve the last bit of fat for survival and break down muscle tissue and attack your organs, but cutting 400 calories a day isn't going to do shit.

Greatest analogy I've ever heard was "If you had a pile of wood you'd saved, why would you chop down your house to build a fire."

Basic bitches.

>> No.7173559

>>7173552
>>7171008
I love you two so much. ;_; Supportive cuddles all around, let's work hard towards becoming perfect princesses!

>> No.7173560

>>7171140
I'm a housewife.

>> No.7173564

>have been into lolita for a couple of months
>not buying any clothes yet because i want to set a style first and know more about the fashion
>have friend who is also in lolita
>mention it to him
>he goes crazy over it and links me to a site on ebay that sells lolita dresses
>"they're soooo high quality anon!"
>okay let's see
>while skimming through the page I spot Fantastic Dolly in red under a completely different name.
>Not even into sweet but I know this is a bad sign
>skimming through his "kawaii" pictures on fb and it's horrible
>the clothes from the site he told me about are ill-fitting and of mediocre quality
>tfw I don't have the heart to tell him he's doing it terribly wrong

He doesn't know of any brands, hell not even Milanoo.
He thinks that he can find any kind of lolita clothes on ebay and I know that's just a disaster waiting to happen.

>> No.7173566

>>7173564
Maybe you should try showing him things for a change.
Like dresses you like and such.

>> No.7173575

>>7173564
Just subtly start linking him things from brands that you like, in a way that won't offend him. Like, 'Hey, Friend! I found this site called lj/lacebook/<insert burando here>/Bodyline/whatever the fuck even a lolita beginner's blog where you can see a lot of things!"

>> No.7173580

>>7173566
>>7173575
Oh I've tried, trust me. Subtly mentioning some sites yet he disregards them completely.

>> No.7173585

>>7173580
Then he's a lost cause, anon. Time to go to a meet up and make real friends.

>> No.7173589

>>7173564
Steer him correctly please before he embarrasses himself ._.

>> No.7173602

I have a fb friend who is lolita and has been in it longer than me. I've only talked to her once about lolita and realised that she was a) boring as hell and b) feels like she needs to teach me every single aspect of lolitaness everytime i say something.
I have more fun talking about lolita to my brokeass friend who hasnt even bought a dress yet.

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>>be interested in lolita for three years
>>be lower middle class
>>can't commonly afford brand name
>>suddenly get tons expendable money
>>refuse to buy any lolita for fear of being an ita or looking overweight
>>lose chance at expendable money
>>gain expendable money
>>repeat for three years

feels so bad

>> No.7173635

>>7173626
I'm experiencing this right now, wow.
>suddenly quite a bit of money not needed for necessities
>puny lolita wardrobe
>want to spend on lolita but don't for reasons I haven't even figured out yet
>hoarding money
>selling most of my wardobe now for more money to just hoard
>don't know what's wrong with me

I'm not used to having so much money at once. I usually save up for periods of time and limit myself greatly.
I finally have the means to get the things I want but I'm afraid to get them. I could actually use a new cell phone as well, but I'm just so hesitant.

>> No.7173652

>>7172201
Me too anon! There's a girl on tumblr that posts translations from Tanuki (J bbs that band girls post their sex stories and shit on) but I think she's mentioned that she'd never seen anything about him

>> No.7173654

I think I may be obsessed with lolita. I have never worn it before, and I have no lolita friends on any chat program or social network, but it's occupied a majority of my free time nowadays. I wandered into a Lolita thread, and everything was so perfect and coordinated... Now I have fifty bookmarks of various clothes suppliers and guides, an urge to stitch lace onto things, and my nightmares are full of gorgeous dresses with stains on them that never come out.

Am I infected?

>> No.7173656

>>7173654
i think you're being overly dramatic about it, but yes that's pretty normal mode for anyone just discovering it. especially when you discover how to navigate taobao

>> No.7173657

>>7173656
I really do have nightmares like that.

I see where you're coming from. I'll try to ride it out before murdering my wallet.

>> No.7173870

>>7171540
>>not having the awesomest job ever while also while heavily medicated.

Yeah, I think I've arrived at a point in my life where I've realized that's okay. Too bad I had to learn the hard way that mental health is more important than making a ton of money, owning a big house and a ton of other stuff. Depression and anxiety run in my family and I've seen what happens when people prioritize trivial things over their own well-being. So long as I can take care of my needs and still afford the occasional luxury (of which Lolita and the odd skincare product are the most expensive--books, manga and DVDs can be bought pretty cheaply), I wouldn't mind working at a job that pays less if it meant my depression and anxiety was more manageable. Realistically, I know there are stresses in every job and all throughout life, but my goal is to minimize them as much as possible so I can avoid being hospitalized again.

>>7171586
This was a great read and something I really identified with. Maybe I'll show this to some of my less-understanding friends.

>>7171743
Thanks for your support!

>> No.7173916

I would fuck Pixyteri.

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>>7173556
500 calories a day is closer to anorexia than a diet. Also, when you go to extreme low calorie diets it fucks you up because your body goes into starvation mode and starts conserving everything it can. You might not get fat, but you will be exhausted, and it can be harder to lose weight than on a well structured gradual diet.

>> No.7174822

>>7173652
Link for the love of all that's unholy