/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

[Anonymous No.7072302]

Casual lolita thread? Starting with some realisticsweet coords.

[Anonymous No.7072304]

>>7072302
realisticsweet in chocolate rosette

[Anonymous No.7072307]

>>7072304
realisticsweet in heart scallop-chan salopette

[Anonymous No.7072310]

>>7072307
one more time in heart scallop chan

[Anonymous No.7072312]

>>7072310
sweet cream house salopette

[Anonymous No.7072313]

>>7072312
fancy box salopette

[Anonymous No.7072314]

>>7072313
tartan salopette

[Anonymous No.7072317]

>>7072314
toy parade salopette

[Anonymous No.7072318]

>>7072317
print i cant seem to recall the name of

[Anonymous No.7072324]

>>7072322
And lastly, milky planet.

[Anonymous No.7072322]

>>7072318
aaaand once more

[Anonymous No.7072325]

Most of these are not lolita. They're cute outfits, with clothes from brands that do make lolita clothes, but they're not lolita pieces themselves.

[Anonymous No.7072334]

>>7072324
Is this really considered casual?

[Anonymous No.7072331]

cloud-chan

captcha: your hanJob

[Anonymous No.7072336]

>>7072325
The AP salopette style doesn't have a name really. The term "casual lolita" will be up for debate, just not here. I'd like to save the thread for just cute "casual" outfits with pieces by AP or btssb, whatever you'd like to call that style.

tl;dr: labels don't matter, post pics!

[Anonymous No.7072338]

>>7072336
So just say that you're looking for casual outfits with lolita pieces? Rather than calling it something that is already associated with a really specific stye. That way you'll actually get pictures related to the thing you want.

[Anonymous No.7072341]

>>7072338
Okay, sorry..............

[Anonymous No.7072343]

[Anonymous No.7072344]

>>7072331

[Anonymous No.7072345]

>>7072338
>So just say that you're looking for casual outfits with lolita pieces
>OP asks for casual lolita

wow huge mistake oh wow sorry didnt know da RUULES loli rules oh wow pls show me loli rule book

[Anonymous No.7072347]

>>7072325
meh, they register on the lolita radar for me, More please.

[Anonymous No.7072350]

>>7072347

[Anonymous No.7072351]

>>7072350

[Anonymous No.7072353]

>>7072351

[Anonymous No.7072354]

>>7072345
I know you're joking, but... we do actually have the handbook.

[Anonymous No.7072360]

>>7072353

[Anonymous No.7072361]

>>7072354
The handbook? OP here, just curious, is there really a name to the "salopette" style? I would assume that "casual lolita" is pretty acceptable. If I saw her in public I'd assume she was a lolita who was just wearing a salopette because the full petti is a bother.

I'm aware that many people say lolita HAS to have a petti, btw.

[Anonymous No.7072363]

>>7072361
Salopettes don't fit into a specific style, it depends on the salopette in question. They're worn in fairy kei quite commonly, especially the ones Angelic Pretty brings out. They can also be worn in otome, gyaru, aomoji kei... loads of different styles.

[Anonymous No.7072373]

>>7072363
Then what would be OP pic? It certainly isnt otome, gyaru, amoji, or fairy kei.. Really looks like casual lolita to me.

[Anonymous No.7072374]

>>7072373
It doesn't have the right silhouette to be lolita, casual or otherwise.

[Anonymous No.7072544]

>>7072374
>avoiding the question

[Anonymous No.7072561]

>>7072373
Perhaps it doesn't actually have a name. Did you ever think that perhaps every single look in existence hasn't been given a neat little niche name? People can tell you what it is not, but perhaps not what it is because sometimes clothes are just clothes and not every single look needs it's own fucking category.

[Anonymous No.7072565]

>>7072544
Looks like you woke up on the bitch side of the bed this morning.

Not that anon, but it looks a bit more otome(inb4 people saying "EVERYTHING NOT LOLITA ISN'T OTOME!!!") the jacket and shoes make it more otome than lolita. Plus salopettes aren't lolita, no matter what brand they are.

[Anonymous No.7072574]

>>7072544
because not everything needs to have a label put on it, and weirdly enough, not all fashion styles fit neatly into categories. If you want to get technical, it would fall under the aomoji kei umbrella. It actually could fall under otome kei too. Hell, you could probably wear that outfit with a gyaru look if you did the make up and hair to fit.

[Anonymous No.7072678]

What separates a casual coord from a, well, non-casual one?

[Anonymous No.7072698]

Is there such a thing as casual gothic?

[Anonymous No.7072702]

May I post some outfits that incorporate lolita-like and/or brand items in a way that is more socially acceptable and toned down than full traditional lolita?

[Anonymous No.7072704]

>>7072698
How's this?

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[Anonymous No.7072707]

>>7072698
Or this? I feel like grey heather really brings down the ornate-factor in an outfit. Kind of reminds me of sweatshirts. Rebuttals?

[Anonymous No.7072708]

>>7072707
whoops, here's picture

[Anonymous No.7072713]

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[Anonymous No.7072716]

>>7072704
I feel like this is more on the classic side than gothic, but it's getting there, and this

>>7072708
I feel like the shape of the dress is throwing me off, but I like what she is going for

[Anonymous No.7072718]

[Anonymous No.7072720]

>>7072716
How about this with a black cutsew and dramatic silver accessories? I'm trying to bridge the line between 'lolita that happens to be black' and actual gothic. As a sweet, I'm pretty bad at the distinction.

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[Anonymous No.7072723]

>>7072720
I was thinking maybe something like this? Minus the wristcuffs or something. Sort of like "functional" gothic

[Anonymous No.7072724]

[Anonymous No.7072725]

>>7072723
Okay, I think I'm starting to see where you're coming from. How about this, with the secretary blouse?

[Anonymous No.7072727]

>>7072723
Or this?

[Anonymous No.7072731]

[Anonymous No.7072733]

I want to post more coords like this one >>7072731 but I don't want to stop people from posting in the coord thread.
Maybe it'd encourage OC there though. I'll try to hold off, none the less.

[Anonymous No.7072739]

[Anonymous No.7072736]

[Anonymous No.7072748]

[CollageAnon No.7072752]

Are collages okay?

[Anonymous No.7072756]

>>7072727
I really like this one!!!

>>7072725
This one's good too

[Anonymous No.7072768]

>>7072752
Let's do it.

[CollageAnon No.7072771]

>>7072768
Let's.

[Anonymous No.7072773]

I have the biggest joy with secretary blouses in lolita

[Anonymous No.7072775]

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[Anonymous No.7072778]

[CollageAnon No.7072782]

[Anonymous No.7072797]

>>7072698
I think there can be. I'd love to see photos.

[Anonymous No.7072833]

>>7072797
There have already been a few posted. What do you think? (pic obviously not related)

[Anonymous No.7072839]

[Anonymous No.7072897]

>>7072839
ohh someone made this coord for me!!! I still love it so much!
if anyone is wondering about the dress its ETC strawberry gingham~

[Anonymous No.7072906]

can we just all agree while salopettes don't have the standard lolita shape they are still in the realm of lolita?

[Anonymous No.7072909]

>>7072906
There's a difference between 'lolita-like' and actually considered lolita. The shape is pretty much the biggest and most basic thing in lolita, the thing that is the same through all the subtypes. Salopettes don't have that so they are not true lolita.
Lolita-like as in almost lolita but not quite.

[Anonymous No.7072912]

>>7072909
it's related enough that it can be in this thread and super cute

[Anonymous No.7072930]

>>7072678
Seconding this question. I always just classed anything that significantly involves lolita pieces and isn't ita but doesn't follow DA RULES as casual lolita.

[Anonymous No.7072934]

this image always gets posted as casual lolita and it doesn't really fit DA RULES either, so why not stuff like salopettes/etc.?

[Anonymous No.7072936]

>>7072934
That's not even lolita, it's otome.

[Anonymous No.7072956]

>>7072934
this one doesn't follow the rules either and can also be otome. stop being so strict.

[Anonymous No.7072960]

>>7072936
>That's not even lolita
No duh. Hence, "casual" lolita.

It's basically wearing things with a similar aesthetic to lolita, but with a more casual wear kind of vibe. And so what if two styles cross over? Not everything is black and white.

[Anonymous No.7072965]

>>7072956
>>7072934
neither of these look otome... they both look casual lolita pretty much 100%

[Anonymous No.7072972]

>>7072318
Little Bears Cafe!

[Anonymous No.7072975]

>>7072350
So lets say basically almost anything classic will do :P

[Anonymous No.7072980]

>>7072965
I think they're referring to some common elements, and while it is true that sweet casual would stand apart more, something more classic could be mistaken for otome due to the shape and more muted colors.

[Anonymous No.7072985]

>>7072965
they dont follow ~da precious handbook~ which is outdated anyway

[Anonymous No.7073025]

>>7072965
First one is MILK, so it's otome kei.

[Anonymous No.7073027]

>>7073025
just becase she's wearing a specific brand doesn't mean it's otome

[Anonymous No.7073038]

>>7072960
You do know that casual lolita is a specific style, right? Not just "well this is a cute outfit that kind of reminds me a bit of lolita because it's got burando pieces". As silly as it sounds, it still has to follow the lolita silhouette to make it lolita. And yes, two styles can cross over, but no, that doesn't mean that everything can be called 'casual lolita'. Regarding otome, there is a fair bit of crossover, but while most casual lolita can also be otome, most otome is not casual lolita. I feel that >>7072956 is casual lolita, as the skirt has the right silhouette. There's a lot of volume in there. >>7072934 is more towards the otome side of things, and considering it's MILK brand it's more likely to be otome, however the skirt does have a fair bit of poof to it, so it could be considered casual lolita too. Although overall, it does have that much more otome 'feel' to it. Lolita is a weirdly strict fashion, it's not a big secret. So calling everything with a skirt and slightly frilly 'casual lolita' just seems really stupid to a lot of us because it's an actual style already. It's like if you called all Asian people as 'Chinese' just because "well you all kind of look the same" (yes, an extreme example I suppose)

[Anonymous No.7073039]

>>7072678
>>7072930
The first thing is that it has to have the lolita silhouette still. The silhouette is what defines lolita as lolita. After that, it's a bit more of a difficult thing to explain. Basically it's just toned down, every day wear. Usually has a lighter petticoat, simpler cardigans rather than frilly boleros, often a cutsew rather than a blouse (or a less fussy blouse), a lot less accessories (no big hair accessories, not as many things clipped to your head etc.), more than likely no wigs (or at least natural-looking wigs)... it's not really a separate substyle in the same way "sweet" or "gothic" are, it's just toned down things you can wear every day. I've also noticed that people use a lot more every day regular high street store items in their outfits, although the main piece (dress, skirt) are always from a lolita store.

[Anonymous No.7073067]

Regarding all of you arguing faggots:

>>7072336
>The term "casual lolita" will be up for debate, just not here. I'd like to save the thread for just cute "casual" outfits with pieces by AP or btssb, whatever you'd like to call that style.
>tl;dr: labels don't matter, post pics!

[Anonymous No.7073076]

>>7072350
What dress is this?

[Anonymous No.7073078]

>>7072936
That shit is way older than otome, though. And it doesn't even fit the otome aesthetic.

[Anonymous No.7073084]

>>7073027
But it is, it's not lolita at all. People on here are so stupid and know nothing about this fashion.

[Anonymous No.7073085]

>>7073078
>way older than otome
>MILK
>pretty much the original otome brand
I don't think you know what you're talking about

[Anonymous No.7073086]

>>7072960
Lol at this noob trying to explain things to someone who actually knows what they're talking about. There's nothing lolita about it. It's cute and girly, that's the only common theme.

[Anonymous No.7073092]

>>7073078
>>7073084
>>7073085
>>7073086
Hey faggots:

>>7072336
>The term "casual lolita" will be up for debate, just not here. I'd like to save the thread for just cute "casual" outfits with pieces by AP or btssb, whatever you'd like to call that style.
>tl;dr: labels don't matter, post pics!

[Anonymous No.7073100]

Let me see what I have...

[Anonymous No.7073101]

>>7073100

[Anonymous No.7073102]

>>7073101

[Anonymous No.7073103]

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[Anonymous No.7073106]

>>7073084
Things that are not lolita do not automatically become otome.

Seems like you're the one who knows nothing.

[Anonymous No.7073104]

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[Anonymous No.7073107]

>>7073104

[Anonymous No.7073109]

>>7073107

[Anonymous No.7073110]

>>7073025
>>7073085
>this old as fuck non-print dress is from AP therefore it is sweet OTT ageplay lolita

It doesn't look otome. Saying wearing MILK = insta otome is the same as saying that putting on an AP dress will make you a lolita.

[Anonymous No.7073111]

>>7073109

[Anonymous No.7073113]

>>7073110
It's a pretty old otome coordinate. Do you know what otome outfits looked like in the mid 00's? Do you understand that what constitutes an otome outfit is a lot looser than even a casual lolita coordinate? Plus purists will stick to specific brands. Girl's not even wearing a petticoat. I can see how this may look similar to what meta releases in summer lucky packs with the cutsews and skirts, but this is more recognisable to me as otome than lolita.

[Anonymous No.7073114]

>>7073106
This is true. Otome has a set of rules, too. They do have similar aesthetics, and some things do cross over.

Pic related, some otome. The silhouette is similar, but this is definitely very different from casual lolita.

[Anonymous No.7073116]

>>7073113
>this is more recognisable to me as otome than lolita.
Then that's your opinion.

Instead of bitching about it, post things that you consider casual lolita. Contribute instead of making a toxic environment.

[Anonymous No.7073118]

>>7073113
I'd like to add that the image jane marple promotes, is yet again different to ETC, which again is different to milk. They all have distinctive unique styles, but are altogether otome, not lolita.

[Anonymous No.7073120]

>>7073116
I have been contributing, I'm not the same anon who has been 'bitching' earlier, just presenting my POV. I'll go back to posting some more casual lolita.

[Anonymous No.7073121]

>>7073111

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[Anonymous No.7073128]

>>7073120
My mistake, though it is hard to tell with all anons. Please, do carry on.

[Anonymous No.7073129]

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[Anonymous No.7073179]

>>7073076
Krad Lanrete's Mozarabic Chant print

[Anonymous No.7073184]

>>7073106
Well, duh. But it is nonetheless an otome look. Please lurk more.

[Anonymous No.7073186]

>>7073159
Goodness that's adorable.

[Anonymous No.7073191]

>>7073157
Whoever thinks this is lolita clearly knows nothing about the fashion.

[Anonymous No.7073197]

>>7073184
Nope. You need to really familiarize yourself with the style.

[Anonymous No.7073203]

>>7073197
Get a load of dis bitch. You are in denial, otome is also a very diverse look and this is one of the styles within that fashion. You are either stupid or arguing just for the sake of it.

[Anonymous No.7073207]

>>7073203
Also, I was not the anon who said that it is otome just because it is from MILK, but MILK is typically an otome brand.

[Anonymous No.7073211]

>>7073191
Eh, it's passable. You should really stop complaining. It feels like you're just here to argue.

If you want to contribute something, instead of "correcting" people here and there, post something that you feel qualifies as casual lolita. This thread isn't for arguing, it's for sharing ideas. Maybe something isn't entirely "proper", but it has elements that may inspire someone.

tldr; Get off your high horse. Less bitching, more posting.

[Anonymous No.7073220]

I'm so confused. Are we posting casual lolita, or otome, or salopettes, or just cute outfits, or what?

[Anonymous No.7073226]

Otome:
>Otome is a Japanse fashion style that focuses on looking girly and maidenly. The style was popularized in the 70's and has much overlap with Lolita and is one of the styles in which Lolita has its roots. Many Otome brands release dresses that can double as Lolita dresses, and many Otome coordinates are often mistaken for Casual Lolita, due to their similar aesthetic with less emphasis on accessories and extreme amounts of details.

Casual Lolita:
>Casual Lolita is simply a term used to describe an outfit that is toned down for more casual wear. They often favor cutsews over blouses, petticoats without a lot of poof, and minimal accessories and styling. Many times tee-shirts with cute, Lolita appropriate, prints are worn with Lolita skirts to make a Casual Lolita outfit.
>Casual Lolita is often confused with Otome because the styles can overlap a bit.

>The style is casual, and cute.
>Your inspiration is Alice Deco à la Mode and Kera.
>Casual adaptions will look different depending on which Lolita style it's based on (Ama, Gothic, Classic, etc).
>The color scheme range from neutral shades to pastels.
>Small amounts of lace, frills and ribbons.
>Non-Lolita brand clothing is very often coordinated into this style.
>Headdresses include style-specific ones, but are kept simple.
>Simple cardigans are worn, often decorated with ribbons or small amounts of lace.
>Simple cutsews and t-shirts, sometimes with a Lolita-related print.
>Items such as turtleneck sweaters can easily be incorporated for a classy feeling.
> Skirts are simple with frills, or a specific print to make the outfit pop.
> Skirt length is standard knee-length to shorter skirts.
> The Lolita silhouette is normally kept by a pannier, but is not always a priority.
> Knee/overknee socks, or tights.
> Simple Mary Janes or suitable non-Lolita shoes.
> Accessories include style-specific ones, but are kept simple.
> Bags are usually kept simple, often adorned with a ribbon.

[Anonymous No.7073228]

>>7073220
Casual lolita, or just cute casual shit with lolita stuff in it.

Not so much focus on otome, though they do overlap so it's not a big deal if it's posted.

Basically, something a lolita could wear her clothes/accessories with that is more casual.

[Anonymous No.7073244]

>>7073226
>>7073039
Thank you helpful anons! There's a lot of "you must be stupid if you don't know..." in this thread but honestly this stuff is pretty confusing, especially if you're new.

[Anonymous No.7073247]

>>7073244
>There's a lot of "you must be stupid if you don't know..." in this thread
That's some snobby girl with a lamp post up her ass. Ignore her.

Though you should really try the sites in the sticky if you want to learn about it. HelloLace is probably the simplest to start with. Google is nice if you know the name the style.

[Anonymous No.7073307]

>>7073247
Hellolace is outdated and awful by now.

[Anonymous No.7073360]

>>7072324
This...is not casual.

[Anonymous No.7073373]

>>7073131
sorry for not contributing but where is this cardigan from?