Unpopular opinions thread?

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Anonymous Thu Jul 18 08:50:05 2013 No.6981337 [Reply] [Original]

Unpopular opinions thread?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:03:05 2013 No.6981349

I don't really like the all mix with lolita and tumblr fashion, heavy make up, retro hairstyle, huge flowers all over, tattoo tight and designer shoes. I think it din't really match the lolita aesthetic and make lolitas look really older. It's too much, too costumey.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:10:05 2013 No.6981353 i laugh to myself about all the girls fawning over their new kawaii dream dress whipped magic dress is awful in every colorway and no one can make it look good, not even herajika

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:11:05 2013 No.6981354 >>6981337 I think lolita is gross and unflattering and I totally understand why anyone is mocked in public for wearing it. And every one that wears it is dumb. My honest opinion, never even said so on /cgl/ even though I've been coming here for years.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:24:05 2013 No.6981362

I kinda dislike the need for categorization in lolita.
Like, every thematic style needs to be labeled and needs to have x-y-z elements.

It sounds like hipster, newfag bullshit (and I do realize those terms arose out of necessity sometimes), but I honestly feel like it kills a lot of the spontaneity thats necessary for creativity. Especially with clothes.

I wish lolita was a a bit more flexible with labels, basically.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:24:05 2013 No.6981363 >>6981349 I feel like those things can be done well separately, but all at once is overkill. But I'm biased because I love accessorizing with flowers. And my unpopular opinion is that mascara is the devil.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:25:05 2013 No.6981364 >>6981354 > people who don't think like me are dumb desu ~

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:31:05 2013 No.6981369
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Those fucking flower hair crowns.
I don't mind accessorizing a hairpiece with flowers, but why fucking flower hair crowns? They make people look like hippies. Bonus if their overall coord has NOTHING to do with flowers but they toss on a flower crown anyway.
Worse yet it's seeping into even normalfag fashions now. Looks like a florist is raping everyone's face.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:33:05 2013 No.6981372 >>6981362 Oh fuck. This. Also people need to get over their sperging over colour coordination to the point of one shade difference making someone ita. It's seriously like fashion for spergs, and I really wish people wouldn't.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:39:05 2013 No.6981376
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>>6981372
>one shade difference making someone ita
>this feel

I once had someone get fuming mad with me about colors- to the point where I had to explain what matchy- matchy was, and why it wasnt so great for an outfit.

It was very unpleasant, to say the least.
I can definitely sympathize.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:44:05 2013 No.6981378 >>6981376 >dat gif Oh god, that's so adorable. Also, that is crazy someone would get mad like that, was it in person?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:49:05 2013 No.6981384 I can't stand other lolitas anymore. Now I know I haven't met every lolita in the world but the ones around here are just so obnoxious. I love the fashion I just hate the people in it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:50:05 2013 No.6981385

>>6981378
Its one of my favorites!

And no, thankfully, this was an internet argument.
(We all know how those can be...)

But yeah, I was surprised how much vitriol the idea garnered.
>How dare you say all the purple should not match! (paraphrase)

Some people really need to relax...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:53:05 2013 No.6981390 >>6981372 What gets me about the "one shade" thing is that things often look the same color in real life, but in photos, look different colors due to differences in material or opacity or things like that that only show up on camera.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 09:55:05 2013 No.6981393

>>6981369
I think that tiny natural colored flower crown can look cute if they are well blended in the outfit (I've seen a girl on daily_lolita who wore one with a bonnet, it was actually cute), but huge ass flashy flowers looks so out of place in every single coordinate ever !

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:00:05 2013 No.6981395 >>6981385 Yeah it really is nuts. Like you can tell who really knows about colour and it's not those head to toe exact same shade people. >>6981390 I had hair extensions like that. It was the one time I was horrified by such a thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:10:05 2013 No.6981399 >>6981369 Mori: Yes Everything else: NO

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:23:05 2013 No.6981405 File: 49 KB, 250x400, tumblr_mded51M7VQ1qad55j.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I think bittersweet prints are awful 100% of the time. They look washed out and blotchy, so unappealing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:26:05 2013 No.6981407 >>6981405 the fucking word bittersweet. you do not need a term for sweet print in black colorway, it is still a sweet coordinate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:38:05 2013 No.6981412 >>6981405 Every single bittersweet coord looks exactly the same. Because you're wearing dark colored sweet outfits. Freaking, black or pink headbows and wrist cuffs, cupcake shaped dresses and tea parties, every single time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:45:05 2013 No.6981416 >>6981407 popular opinion i cant tell you how many times ive seen this complaint while i wholeheartedly agree you are not alone, buddy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:47:05 2013 No.6981420 I think mori girls always look either homeless or elderly. >captcha: Senior roverax

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 10:53:05 2013 No.6981425 >>6981362 Thirded. It is handy to a certain degree (it does help explain things to newbies and the uninitiated) but too much is an issue for me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:12:05 2013 No.6981442 >>6981337 I hate people like this >I'm just starting lolita now but i've been into lolia for 21837123 years!

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:16:05 2013 No.6981449

I hate tumblr lolitas. Not really unpopular but dam they're so annoying. They're all homestucks or Dangan ronpas who type the same stupid way, and think the same way, and obsess over bodyline.

I just hate the overall hivemind that is tumblr culture and I hate that it's seeping into lolita fashion.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:22:05 2013 No.6981455
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I hate the Day Dream carnival salopette. The cut is frumpy and ugly and it looks bad on everyone. It looks like someone took a JSK and tried to alter it into a little kid's dress or something.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:26:05 2013 No.6981460

>>6981449
huh now I know why I'm not popular on tumblr. Obviously I need to start buying replicas and wearing bodyline.

Unpopular opinion: I think you need to have 30" or below waist, and be pretty to look good in lolita. I also don't bother to talk to people wearing replicas because I know we won't agree on much.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:38:05 2013 No.6981473

>>6981442
Why? People are sometimes interested in the fashion before they start wearing it themselves. I "discovered" lolita in 2007, but didn't really start wearing it/building a wardrobe until 2010. (Unless they're obnoxious/elitist about it, but that can be true of someone who's actually been wearing it for years, too.)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:43:05 2013 No.6981488 >>6981337 I hate people who sit on the sidelines of their lolita communities while a core of 10 or less lolita try to make the community active.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:44:05 2013 No.6981489 >>6981473 It's annoying that people try to act like they've been into the fashion longer than hey have. A lot of them are lying too. There's a difference between being interested in lolita and being a lolita.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:51:05 2013 No.6981497
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I really hate how people assume that because you're a lolita that you should be okay with or agree with the majority of liberal feminist tumblr mantras. I feel like I can't say ONE DAMN THING in my community without pissing off the most recent high school graduate tumblrite who thinks she knows shit now because she's attending community college and taking a ~*~real womminz studies class gies~*~

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:54:05 2013 No.6981505

>>6981442
I knew about and followed the fashion loosely since 2002-2003. I didn't actually get around to wearing and buying things until last year. I had a million reasons not to, cost/lower income, I was too fat at the time and little was made that would fit larger sizes back in the day, I lived with a family of heavy smokers and everything I owned turned brown and stunk to high heaven after being in the house for 5 minutes. Those are pretty valid reasons for not getting into it but knowing about it/lurking for years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 11:56:05 2013 No.6981512 >>6981497 you sound like a dick.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:00:05 2013 No.6981520 >>6981497 lol you must be fun at meets, sandvag. some people are liberals and feminists despite being lolitas, not because of it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:02:05 2013 No.6981524 >>6981512 And you sound like a butthurt feminazi. >>6981520 You know, I actually kind of am. I just don't enjoy people who feel it's appropriate to drag their politics into meets and then get flustered if someone has a dissenting opinion. Stay mad.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:02:05 2013 No.6981525

>>6981505
You're missing the point.
I'm not saying it's bad to start later. I'm not saying you have to get into it as soon as you find it. I'm saying you're not a lolita until you get a dress. I'm also saying that you're still a newfag no matter how long you've known about the fashion

>taking this so personally

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:04:05 2013 No.6981530 >>6981497 Why are bringing up politics in a non-political group, dumbshit?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:04:05 2013 No.6981534 I think bodyline is tacky and way overpriced for what you get. You're better off buying secondhand brand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:06:05 2013 No.6981539 File: 240 KB, 999x666, 1373779612649.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6981530 I don't know cuntrag, why don't you ask the tumblrites who insist on doing just that?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:06:05 2013 No.6981541

>>6981530
The poster is complaining about that very fact?

I agree with them, every lolita I follow on tumblr spams my dash with SJW all the time. I am also a liberal feminist, but when I want to look at lolita stuff I just want to look at lolita stuff.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:09:05 2013 No.6981546 >>6981539 >>6981524 >>6981497 You're a real charmer, aren't you?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:09:05 2013 No.6981547

>>6981541
>>6981497
I feel you guys so much on this.
Especially over the whole Trayvon Martin verdict. I unfollowed so many lolitas because they would not shut up about any of it. Not to mention some posts were outright offensive when talking about white privilege and racism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:10:05 2013 No.6981549 >>6981546 >dick >sandvag >dumbshit >charmer Are these the only comebacks you can say to someone who has an opinion that pisses you off? You sound boring.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:13:05 2013 No.6981555 >>6981549 >implying I'm all those people I'm sorry you feel a need to insert your backwards politics into every discussion to the point that you can't even post in a fashion group without someone needing to call you out on bigotry, anon :( I really am

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:15:05 2013 No.6981556 >>6981555 Emote! Confirmed for underage&b

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:15:05 2013 No.6981557 File: 99 KB, 627x474, 1368587234558.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6981555 Who says I'm inserting anything? Sounds like the only insertion you need is some D in your sensitive cobweb vadge. God girl, shut up.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:16:05 2013 No.6981558

>>6981534
Ah, true that.
Actually, I'm japanese and have always looked at bodyline like milanoo. It has such a bad reputation here because of Mr.Yan and the replicas they made. My friends and I never buy anyhing here except sometimes shoes. When my friend started wearing the fashion it was pretty standard advice to say "go on mbok and buy meta" I guess part of the reason for this is we can buy cheap second hand brand, whereas you guys only have comm sales and overpriced shopping service. But when I lived in la for a year, it was weird to meet other lolitas who openly wore bodyline and would recommend it to other people.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:17:05 2013 No.6981559

>>6981555
haha this
if you seriously can't get along with people who think differently than you you should probably reevaluate what you talk about and why people get mad at you. looking at what you believe, asking why you believe those things, and keeping an open mind might actually help you make friends instead of pushing them away.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:17:05 2013 No.6981561 >>6981541 you can choose to block people's posts on your timeline if it bothers you so much. tumblr spammers gonna spam.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:18:05 2013 No.6981563

>>6981559
Do you like agreeing with your own posts or something?
Nowhere does the post say that they weren't getting along with people or that they were called out. They just said they feel they can't say anything in their comms.
Why are you getting so defensive because another person feels alienated due to the fact that some lolitas are way too loud about their politics? Which they most definitely are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:19:05 2013 No.6981566 File: 40 KB, 392x200, 1343493543385.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6981563 Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:20:05 2013 No.6981568 File: 25 KB, 300x300, 0893.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6981555 >anon mentions nothing about commenting in a discussion >mfw tumblr feminist still finds a way to call anon a bigot >provingthepoint.jpg

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:21:05 2013 No.6981570

>>6981555
speaking of bigotry, theres this one girl in my comm that is an outright racist, rape apologist, misogynistic piece of shit who says whatever comes to mind and turns into an ~edgy hardcore rebel~ idiot and uses empty threats of violence to intimidate other lolitas who tell her she's being a bigoted douche and that she should think more critically before pushing her opinions all over other people and getting buttmad at anyone who doesnt agree with her.

i think there was a secrets post about her a few weeks ago and the comments were so hilarious.

she is the literal equivalent of a 12 year old that believes everything she sees on fox news and i feel like i get dumber when i'm around her. hopefully she doesnt show up to any meets any time soon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:23:05 2013 No.6981572 >>6981570 So because there's one bigot in your comm this is why you're getting so buttflustered at this (>>6981497) anon who just said they can't say anything because they feel their comm is obsessively tumblrite-tier libtard nuts? Oh, makes sense now.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:23:05 2013 No.6981573

I hate how most salopettes have a waist of 91+ cm. I get that it's supposed to be a "low waist" measurement, but that's still as big as my hips. It's way too baggy. I have one with an 80 cm waist that's actually wearable though. Also, big boobs never look good with salopettes, but I've seen a lot of coords that, uh, disregard that.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:24:05 2013 No.6981574

>>6981563
>"anons disagree with me! they must be samefag!"
not everyone who disagrees with you is a samefag, genius.
i'm not being defensive, i'm saying that if they can't be friends with other people who hold different political beliefs, maybe you should just ignore them and not participate in the discussion if all participation does is cause them grief. or look at their opinions with an open mind and keep it civil.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:26:05 2013 No.6981575

>>6981572
i'm not getting buttmad at anyone, i felt the need to bring up this girl in my comm who is literally a mirror image of all the tumblrite feminists. there are idiots who act the same way but hold completely different opinions. saying it's all the fault of "liberal feminist lolitas" is generalizing when it comes to actual butthurt politifags.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:26:05 2013 No.6981576

>>6981574
>implying everyone that disagrees with you is the same anon
Same to you sweetie. You are being defensive as fuck and projecting things that the anon never said to begin with. They said nothing about friends, they said nothing about discussion, they just said that they walk on eggshells because a few people in their comm are way too loud about their politics.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:27:05 2013 No.6981578

>>6981525
Being "into lolita" and actually participating could be considered differently depending on who you ask. But I do agree that it's a little silly to consider yourself a "*~lolita at heart~*" when you don't own anything, not even a simple Bodyline dress.

The way the original post was worded implyed that anyone who was "into it" (in whatever degree) is doing some sort of wrong for actually "getting into it" recently. Thus my reply. Nothing was taken personal, I just personally thought the opinion was silly as it was presented. But since you clarified while also needlessly being an ass, I rest my case.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:27:05 2013 No.6981580 I think Sugary Carnival is a really boring print. I also think most old school stuff is really ugly. I understand it's not ita, I'm just not a fan of it.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:28:05 2013 No.6981581

>>6981575
>saying it's all the fault of "liberal feminist lolitas" is generalizing when it comes to actual butthurt politifags.

How am I generalizing when I am specifically talking about the offenders in my lolita comm?
You doth protest too much methinks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:29:05 2013 No.6981584 >>6981580 Thanks for staying on topic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:32:32 2013 No.6981590 File: 47 KB, 500x500, e85cb326.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] not sure if this is an unpopular opinion, but those golf shoe rocking horse shoes are ugly as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:36:29 2013 No.6981594 >>6981353 Is that really an unpopular opinion? I thought everyone hated that print, it's really ugly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:37:29 2013 No.6981595 >>6981590 I actually think all rocking horse shoes are ugly. They're unflattering, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:44:29 2013 No.6981600 >>6981349 I think retro hairstyles are really cute with lolita.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 12:50:34 2013 No.6981613

>>6981488
yes. I feel no one besides a few people host events. We all agreed going to the mall on the weekend would be a good idea. We even posted a poll and everything another meet "in the works" for a garden trip. Just post the event already. You made a poll for the date and the location...now post it!

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:03:34 2013 No.6981624

>>6981372
>>6981385

fuuu, this always reminds me of gaiaonline
everything has to match perfectly = often looks fucktarded in real life
it's one of the laziest things to fall back on imo. not that it's bad but being rude to someone over it is so sad, it's like color theory means nothing anymore ( ;__; )

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:08:34 2013 No.6981628 >>6981613 You wouldn't happen to be in the DFW comm would you? Because there are two polls still up for those exact things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:09:34 2013 No.6981629 >>6981555 >>6981559 is this the 'find the sjw/ person who knows nothing of what they are talking about' game? it is impossible to ignore the tumblr feminist people. IMPOSSIBLE.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:09:34 2013 No.6981630

I don't like prints. I look at them and I think ah their interesting and if you're bored at a meet you can just stare at your dress. I hate how if you say I don't like prints suddenly you're a *special snowflake* I was wearing the fashion before prints became *the* thing and that's the style I continue to like to this day.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:11:34 2013 No.6981631 >>6981630 you sound exactly like a girl in my comm who hates prints, and hates brands but owns a ton of replicas with prints. I hope you're not her

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:29:34 2013 No.6981654

I think most lolita looks best on people who are a little heavier. Not necessarily overweight, but are at a healthy weight for their height. I see all these thin and waiflike girls and a lot of times they just look frumpy and don't really fill out their dresses, this is especially the case with AP. But once you get over a certain size it just starts to look off as well. Drowning in your items to me, looks almost as bad as shirring stretched as far as it'll go with boobloaf.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:33:34 2013 No.6981664 Most lolita coords I've seen (including a lot that were being fawned over on /cgl/) I thought were absolutely hideous. I don't want to say I hate lolita, because I've seen a few that I liked a lot, but I think it looks downright awful most of the time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:40:34 2013 No.6981674 >>6981578 People being asses on 4chan? No way! :^)

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 13:53:34 2013 No.6981698

>>6981362
This as well. I once got into a debate (Almost venturing to an agrument) in an outing due to a girl repeatedly pointing at my floral JSK (It's in the colour of dusty pink with a slight hint of lavender) insisting that it is Sweet Lolita. Why must the color pink equals to Sweet Lolita?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:01:34 2013 No.6981712

I hate classic. Completely hate it. How Fanny Rosie dresses is a disgusting retro mishmash of blah. Most of Innocent World's releases are gross uninspired otome pieces to me.
I'm OTT gothic and my favorite kinds of lolita are sweet, oldschool which is what used to be called classic lolita, and OTT sweet. Please know I'm not trying to bash anyone who wears classic, I'm sure most of them are perfectly nice people, but I would never wear it myself and don't like looking at at and feel it's hardly even lolita anymore. For example, xylia looks great in everything she wears, but they don't look remotely lolita to me. I am not saying that lolita as a label is what matters, but it looks like something completely different and I don't like that now classic lolita has become this big thing when it honestly should probably be its own separate fashion. I'm probably saying this because my comm is mostly classic. I don't know about other comms, there's seriously this classic master race mindset an sweet lolitas are being frowned upon, which I think is sad. My comm accepts me for being gothic, because somehow my frilly black goth dresses seem more tasteful than AP prints and pink wigs, and thy will make fun of the girls at conventions who seriously look cute to me but are in all pastels.

I don't know. I HAVE A LOT OF FEELINGS RIGHT NOW.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:01:34 2013 No.6981714

>>6981630
When I first got started, I fucking hated prints. They seemed too busy and just stupid looking to me. Then, they grew on me. I think it really depends on the print. I still think some are ugly as fuck, but I'm a big fan of others. I hate a lot of sweeter prints. I like some from AatP like Queen's Coach and Jewelery Box, but I hate some of theirs too. Vampire Forest looks like a hot fucking mess to me. (I love Grimoir of the Moonlight Forest in black and blue, but I can see how others would think it's fugly on a million levels.) Some of IW's prints are nice, but they'd look like crap on me.

>>6981654
I haven't noticed that, but JESUS, if it's not your size, either alter it or don't buy it. I have a 21 inch bust. You think I'm going to buy a JSK or OP that is several inches too big? Hell no. I don't want to spend so much to look like shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:14:34 2013 No.6981734 >>6981714 You have a 21 inch bust? Typo or twelve?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:17:34 2013 No.6981740

>>6981712
My comm is opposite from yours. Almost everybody is wearing sweet & there's only 2 classic lolita around (including me that is) We always got secluded due to not being colourful & kawaii. Nowadays two of us just go out by ourselves instead of attending outings.

For me each style has its appeal and there are different brands that cater towards different style. So I'm fine with all styles, until people try to have a certain style as the superior one among the rest.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:18:34 2013 No.6981741

>>6981712
My closet is sweet and old school so I totally sympathize!

The "holier than thou classic lolita master race" really bugs me. Sometimes I feel like the odd one out in my comm because even though we have lots of sweet lolitas, most of them wear darker prints and have been moving into classic for a while. I worry maybe they think I'm immature or silly looking or look like an ageplayer because I love OTT sweet. Without all the crazy accessories, huge rings, fluffy clips, and sparkly necklaces and bracelets, my coords feel so incomplete. Newer classic lolitas in my comm sometimes get a huge superiority complex and its so annoying to see people scowl at the few other girls who love wearing pastels and AP prints all the time.

Feels bad since some of my best lolita friends are great and are classic lolitas, one of them wears it casually everywhere. They both sew sweet and sweet/classic type stuff though, and have been into lolita forever. Thankfully they don't have a stuck up attitude, they're super nice.

Classic coords sometimes just seem so casual and blah, and really formulaic. Oxfords + flower clips + cream blouse + cardigan + floral tights = boring coord.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:19:34 2013 No.6981742 >>6981714 >21 inch bust You meant 31? Or else... wat.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:21:34 2013 No.6981745

>I think Mori is ridiculously unfashionable and usually looks like homeless clothes
>I like JSKs without an undershirt and think it's really adorable if you're just wearing it out and not for a coord
>I think fuzzy clips can look really tacky and are rarely done right
>I kind of hate glitter and think it makes everything that it touches look cheap
>I think Decora girls look like they stepped out of a magic crackhouse an look insane
>I really really don't like gingham and tartan and they remind me of farms and stuff and any dress I've seen them on I always thought could've looked a lot better with a different design.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:23:34 2013 No.6981748

I just read the entire thing, stop arguing about shit the original anon never brought up. What she brought up:
- I wish the Lolita's at my comm would stop vocalizing their political beliefs at meets so much. Especially since it's tumblr politics, and therefore will not contain any real discussion

What she did not say:
-I hate the tumblurites in my comm and don't want to make friends with them because they have different views

I have to agree with anon, it's a Lolita meet, why the fuck bring up politics? Not an appropriate setting, especially when all it would lead to us arguing or sheep following.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:23:34 2013 No.6981749

>>6981741
Aw well it would just make my day to see all your sparkly jewelry, anon. Sweet lolitas are adorable and I hope your comm is smart enough to realize we all are looking and dressing weird, whether it's in sweet or classic, and damn it that's A-OK!

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:27:34 2013 No.6981758

>>6981712
I am with you, anon. I do think Fanny Rose's outfits are very pretty, but they just aren't lolita to me. Same with the majority of classic. Yeah they may have the same silhouette and petticoat poof as gothic and sweet, but something just seems missing.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:29:34 2013 No.6981761
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>>6981749
You're a sweetie! This is a pic from a recent con, my jsk looked frumpy because I undid the corset lacing in the back (too much bending and moving stuff at the booth I was helping) but here's a picture showcasing my insanely accessorized self. I had about 4 rings on my other hand too. That star lollipop clip in my hair, I receive more compliments on that than on any whole coord I've done so far. Its pretty funny. Even non-lolitas ask about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:29:34 2013 No.6981762 I like plain classic lolita coords

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:30:34 2013 No.6981764 >>6981761 > Fat > Hiding face so UGLY > Chubby Fingers Go away

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:34:34 2013 No.6981769

>>6981745
>I think Decora girls look like they stepped out of a magic crackhouse and look insane
B-b-but that's what's so cute!

Like other anons said, classic lolita superiority is annoying. There are only a few classic girls in my comm (most of us are gothic or bordering gothic/classic like wearing MM and VM) and those girls act like they're trying to be part of some loli lifestyle, perfectly prissy snooty Victorian reenactment. Sometimes I feel like slapping them and informing that we do not need to drink tea and eat pastries at every meetup. There is nothing wrong with casually hanging out and getting burgers and shakes at Ruby's. We're supposed to be enjoying one another's company. Stop frowning like your silly hat an bolero are too classy for non-loli activities!
I'm genuinely surprised they show up to small meet ups and just look superior the whole time. Why the hell didn't you guys just stay home then?!

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:34:34 2013 No.6981770

One of my friends is a "target" of this board and has had some very vicious things said about her (unpopular here).
But as I get to know her better I think some of them are justified (unpopular with her)
And, while the early 'attacks' were wide of the mark, being made on somebody decent. She's since got "diagnosed" (though I doubt it was by anybody qualified), and tried to suck up to the admin of a shit e-peen obsessed website. (unpopular with towwerant tublr types)
But still, I now assume any lolita is one of bitchy backbiter types, and treat them all with ill-disguised spite. (unpopular with lolitas)

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:36:34 2013 No.6981773

Fatty Chans with no waist and girls with giant tits should probably stay out of most dresses as they aren't cut to fit you and will look like shit. Do skirts and blouses.

I hate the majority of sweet anything, it looks too much like a costume. Some older toned down sweet looks better.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:37:34 2013 No.6981776

>>6981761
So cute! I love the way you look anon. Never change.
I wish I could pull that off, but I'm a lanky 5'8" and sweet would just look weird on me (too much leg showing) so I stick to gothic. I would totally take a picture with you at a con if I saw you <3

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:41:34 2013 No.6981783 >>6981773 Agree with girls with massive boobs. Even if you have a normal sized rack, lolita can still look really bad. My unpopular opinion is that Meta is the best brand. It totally is. Fuck jetj.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:47:34 2013 No.6981798 >>6981783 dat latex skirt so awesome ngl

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:47:34 2013 No.6981801

>>6981773
I have large tits (34DD) and I use a corset. It really helps make the bodices look better than without. Even IW looks halfway decent on me, though not as good as girls with smaller cup sizes, but I make it work. Also it helps give the appearance of a waist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:52:34 2013 No.6981815 >>6981372 Haha there's this one fucker that keeps coming into coord and ita threads to post perfectly fine coords over a very slight 1-2 shade difference in pinks or whatever. It's getting pretty obnoxious.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:53:34 2013 No.6981817
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>>6981769
Yeah, that's why my opinion on that is unpopular.
I like when things match and stuff so I actually like some decora, but I hate when everything's mismatched, colors don't go, the makeup is extreme, and the acceccories don't make sese.
I actually think decora can be kind of cute when it all goes together like pic related! It's still a bit OTT for me and outside of pictures I don't see where it would be worn though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:57:34 2013 No.6981824 >>6981745 >>I think Decora girls look like they stepped out of a magic crackhouse an look insane I honestly totally love you for saying that. It's the best description of decora I have ever heard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 14:58:34 2013 No.6981825 >>6981817 Is Decora like a human version of Dekora trucks? (google and be damned). I can see why that would be... weird.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:01:34 2013 No.6981834 File: 69 KB, 450x640, 600full-kamikaze-girls-poster.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some lolita dresses look fine without petticoats.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:02:34 2013 No.6981838 >>6981834 there is a petticoat there though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:04:34 2013 No.6981845 >>6981838 It's a very deflated/not very poofy one, though. And that's fine by my standards. I always hear critiques of NEEDS MORE POOF. Not necessarily.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:10:34 2013 No.6981856 >>6981845 Well, it's oldschool. But you should wear a petticoat with dresses anyways because 99% time they look like shit without it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:10:34 2013 No.6981857 >>6981745 I love Mori, but I agree with you. The majority of the clothes are too baggy. Like with lolita, there are those that do it well and those that don't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:11:34 2013 No.6981860 I like "lolita" dresses that can be converted to dolly kei fashion. And... I like nice looking lace monsters.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:13:34 2013 No.6981867 >>6981825 No, decora just means decoration.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:14:34 2013 No.6981872 >>6981856 >unpopular opinions thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:14:34 2013 No.6981873 >>6981449 Agreed 100%. I also hate that lolitas post outfits to Tumblr instead of d_l, especially if they aren't tagged. I hate the migration to the unorganized, cluttered clusterfuck that is Tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:14:34 2013 No.6981874 >>6981860 I fuckin love Meta's lace monsters. Baby has quite a few as well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:18:34 2013 No.6981892 >>6981576 >sweetie This sort of thing should be socially punished.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:23:34 2013 No.6981902 >>6981892 Got a problem, honey?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:24:34 2013 No.6981906

My unpopular opinions (?):
I don't get why Cadney is popular. Her coords are really run of the mill to me.

Piercings and tattoos almost always bring a look down, unless they REALLY go with the look (and I don't just mean matching your piercings to your coord, I mean their presence altogether).

I also think unnaturally dyed hair can look really clashy with coords, but at the same time I think it's dumb to think your haircolor has to match your outfit (which is why I dislike the recent trend of it being almost a requirement to match a wig to your outfits).

>>6981369
Agreed, they're so overused now, almost always by noobs who don't match them to their coords at all.

>>6981442
See: the wardrobe thread

>>6981590
Ugh those tassly loafer styles are the worst. I like other styles okay, though I'm not a fan of the ballerina ones that much either. I prefer the boot styles or just simple anklestraps. My favorite are the boot styles, which I guess might be unpopular tastes.

>>6981714
Ah, I feel the same way on prints as you anon! I think for me the prints that catch me are the ones where the art isn't really bold and in your face, and it sorta blends nicely with the style of the dress (so, less bold border prints, gobelins, striped prints, things like that).

...And I agree politics should be left out of meets, regardless of your beliefs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:25:34 2013 No.6981907 >>6981630 I'm not fond of border prints, though I enjoy things with smaller print or one large printed thing in the middle of the bottom of the dress.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:28:34 2013 No.6981914
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>>6981874
Hell, I'll confess. I wrote the secret about Innocent World X Ali Project dress. I love it, even if I hate Ali Project now. Their last good album was Poison and then they fell into homophony hell. But... this dress!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:29:34 2013 No.6981916 >>6981761 This is cute but you need to do something more with your hair or just get a voluminous wig. More bracelets and accessories all over would nicely push it in to OTT, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:32:34 2013 No.6981925 >>6981902 I ALMOST said >inb4 someone thinks they're so fucking clever and uses a term of endearment I hope your friends abandon you and you spend the rest of your life in a box in a sewer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:32:34 2013 No.6981926 >>6981761 You look great Anon. I usually don't like sweet but how you did it was casual. I would suggest investing in a wig, it could pull your outfit together. Keep doing what your doing, darling.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:33:34 2013 No.6981927

>>6981873
The reason why I post things to tumblr is because it'll end up here if I post on on d_l with every detail about myself and the coord picked apart. I've been tempted to, and then I find d_l topics here, and I'm like, fuck whatever. I mostly post my coords for my own reference and to look back on anyway.

Plus, nobody uses lj anymore. It's like saying, man, I wish people would just use geocities to talk about their interests rather than post about it on facebook.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:34:34 2013 No.6981931 >>6981872 >disagreeing with unpopular opinion >People not wanting to wear petticoats with lolita isn't an unpopular opinion, all con itas don't wear petticoats

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:34:34 2013 No.6981933 >>6981906 I don't get Cadney either. I think it's her friendliness? I didn't get Kammie when she was around more. I still don't get Misako.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:35:34 2013 No.6981938 >>6981460 I really wish I didn't have this opinion, but I kind of agree with you on replica-wearers. I never bother to talk to someone wearing a replica anymore because every replica-chan I've ever talked to has been an entitled retard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:39:34 2013 No.6981940 >>6981931 This, and tumblr roriiitaaas

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:39:34 2013 No.6981943 >>6981927 >It's like saying, man, I wish people would just use geocities to talk about their interests rather than post about it on facebook. Considering the switch happened pretty abruptly in under a year's time, no it's not like saying that.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:41:34 2013 No.6981945

>>6981938
I wish it was really different. Replicas, for me are an option to wear the clothes I love. I am saving up money for college, food, and accompanists for my voice lessons (I'm a music major so there's so much extra costs). Also, I don't have the most fit body. Its more medium sized (size 16, usually. Its not healthy but its hard to maintain with my birth control and also horrible options at my uni). Replicas would allow me to wear dresses more toned down for going to classes and stuff. Also, custom sizing is the biggest advantage. I hate that I'm cheating my favorite companies though. And also, no way to art stealing dresses. I prefer plain designs. Im not much into the meet-up scene because of social issues but i think that entitlement is ridiculous.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:48:34 2013 No.6981955

>>6981945
I understand where you're coming from. If most replica wearers weren't so entitled my problem with them would be a lot smaller, I just can't stand someone trying to tell me that it's somehow unfair that they're too poor/fat/thin to buy a brand dress. When confronted about the art theft issue, most of them just say that the brands make so much money already. Well, Peace Now went bankrupt. The brands aren't billion dollar companies.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:50:34 2013 No.6981958 >>6981369 I thought that was Sulli for a minute.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:50:34 2013 No.6981959 >>6981927 What, you think we don't harvest coords to pick apart from tumblr, too?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:52:34 2013 No.6981961 >>6981955 It hates me too. I'm fat because of a combination of a love of baking and pills -_- Its not brands fault because I'm fat. Its like blaming the spoon for making me eat ice cream by the pound. I swear, Entitled Replica-chans piss me off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:53:34 2013 No.6981963 >>6981961 >I hate it too. Damn I be tired today

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:53:34 2013 No.6981964

I saw some JetJ in person for the first time last week, and I wasn't exactly... blown away by the quality.

Also bought my first new brand dress, and while I love it and I definitely think it was worth the price, I was a little surprised at the number of corners they cut in manufacture. I understand why, but for some reason I wasn't expecting it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:54:34 2013 No.6981965 >>6981931 Lol, I'm not a con ita. I wear pettis with my dresses. I just don't go for mega poof. Never cared for the look, myself.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 15:59:34 2013 No.6981973

>>6981955
This. I feel like people just see the brand price tag and assume it's all 100% profit. Yeah, I get that there's a lot of 'buying the brand' but it's not something you can get anywhere. Lolita is a niche fashion and the products are only for a niche market, mostly being Japanese.

I really hate when people get all in a huff about how 'brands discriminate' maybe they do and maybe they don't, but honestly, they only need to make a few sizes to sell everything. I'm tall, but other than that I'm standard brand size, and I make due with things that fit or I do without. Honestly though, I do have a bit more sympathy for people who don't fit brand than people who are too poor. One girl in my comm has horrible spending habits, spends atleast $70 eating out every week, impluse buys basically anything she sees, and still tries to justify replicas. And she buys the cheapest of the cheap DoL crap.

I can get if you don't fit it, and lust over it, and just want to see how it would look on you in a world where it would fit, but stop feeling 'discriminated against' no one owes you anything, and for fucks sake, if you can't go 3 days without spending money on expensive food or anime swag, or some other shit you don't need, like poorfags usually do, then shut the hell up! You are the cancer killing lolita.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:00:34 2013 No.6981975 >>6981384 I have met a TON of lolita weirdos. Im not gonna stop trying to meet lolita friends but knowing when to push the fuck away is really important.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:00:34 2013 No.6981976
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>>6981945
I'm in the same boat. There is a brand set I desire with the white hot intensity of a thousand suns (in b4 Kyubey shows up). I've talked about it a couple times on /cgl/. I've never seen it for sale. Anons I've talked to have never seen it for sale. I found one seller who was thinking of maaaaaybe selling it, but never got back to me.

So I can wait and scour auction sites and the comm sales for eternity, hoping to be in the right place at the right time with $300+ at the ready, or I can buy the replica from Taobao. I feel really torn about it. It's not a print, so I don't feel bad in the art theft respect, but it is made by my favorite brand.

BURANDO CRISIS.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:03:34 2013 No.6981980 Half this thread is underage. Half of /cgl/ is right now at least. Jesus, we should do another poll. Remember at how at the last count the age of our Lolitas had a mode of 21? I'll bet it's 15 right now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:05:34 2013 No.6981984 Some jumperskirts, especially summery print types with halter ties, were meant to be worn without blouses underneath.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:06:34 2013 No.6981986 >>6981541 Yep, the very second that SJW shit passes my dash i hit unfollow. Finding lolita to follow that don't do that is hard work and most of them don't tag.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:07:34 2013 No.6981989

>>6981976
The problem about buying second hand is that the brand isn't going to make money from the sale. I adopted that logic because one of my favorite games happens to be sold for $150 dollars. I could buy it from scalpers on ebay or I can wait until its released (which is happening this year). I would say buy the set from taobao if you cant find it. Set a time period for you to search for the real thing. I seriously wish you so much luck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:13:34 2013 No.6981999 >>6981595 Diff anon here: Completely agree, RHS are ugly as all get out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:14:34 2013 No.6982002 >>6981964 JetJ turned into a hot pixely mess brand. Their Fall/Winter collection should be coming out soon and if I see more naked babies I'm going to flip a table.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:14:34 2013 No.6982003 >>6981364 >>6981364 tfw that's not what she said at all and you're just a buttmad loli

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:17:34 2013 No.6982011 I think lolita is way too fucking expensive.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:17:34 2013 No.6982014

>>6981961
This. I will quietly sob to myself if I find out I'm too big for something(like most brand shoes) but it's not the brands fault they I'm not going to take it out on the brand itself just because I'm fat and have big gajin feet. Even if the shoe size is completely out of my control.

That'd be like getting mad because you saw a design you liked on some kids clothing and you get pissed because gymboree(or some other kid clothing line) doesn't have it in adult clothing.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:19:34 2013 No.6982018

>>6981984
I never really figured out how you were supposed to wear a halterneck JSK with a blouse anyways. It looks stupid if there's a big bowknow coming out from underneath your blouse collar. Not all halterneck JSK'S are summer dresses though, I had an AP halter JSK with a snowflake print, but I sold it because it looked stupid with a blouse underneath

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:21:34 2013 No.6982022 >>6982014 God, the shoe size thing is bad. I'm a US size 10. And I've spent many times sobbing about dresses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:21:34 2013 No.6982025 >>6981976 I never understood the logic of buying a replica of something from your fave brand. Wouldn't you rather have the real thing?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:23:34 2013 No.6982026

>>6981906
>Piercings and tattoos almost always bring a look down

Unless you are on one of those alt lolita tumblrs then this really isn't an unpopular opinion. I am a tattooed loli who hides her tattoos while in lolita because i agree with you: they don't usually go with the look.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:23:34 2013 No.6982027

>>6982014
The only thing I'm legit sad about not fitting is brand/asian shoes, cause it's something I really can't change or help no matter what I do. I have size EU 42 feet, that's a Japanese 3LL or 4L in some cases... I feel really fucked over by genetics ;_; oh well, I guess I was fairly fortunate, my mom's a size 43 and has to order shoes from specialty stores.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:27:34 2013 No.6982033

>>6982025
Not that same anon but I bought a replica because I assumed I'd never be able to find my dream dress anywhere for a reasonable price. After I bought it and it arrived, the real thing in my preferred colorway popped up on a Japanese secondhand site for $20 more than what I spent on the replica. I was super mad but at least now I have a dress I'm not afraid to get dirty.

I also bought a taobao replica of a MM dress once and I was not impressed, the cotton was really thin (like you could see my skin through the dress) and the bows were really sad. It's wearable but it's not a dress I'm proud of.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:29:34 2013 No.6982036

>>6982025
I think everyone, even replica chans, would rather do that, but they whine that they're too poor/fat/whatever else and so
>booo I HAVEEEE to get replicas whine bitch moan!!
I almost caved and turned to replicas when I felt like my wardrobe wasn't full enough, but then I realized I'd just be throwing away money that could be saved for things I REALLY wanted.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:30:34 2013 No.6982039

>>6982025
Thats what that anon said. She said that the set she has been looking for hardly ever/ never comes up for sale and that she has been looking for ages: she wants to buy from the brand and would prefer not to buy a replica.

In the other thread where this anon was talking about the set someone suggested buying the replica and then, when she finds it, also buying the real deal.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:32:34 2013 No.6982042
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>>6981698
Oh my god. I have a story related to this.

>lolita fashion show at my local big con
>just got pic related, i wanna show this baby off
>submit my coord
"oh anon sorry we don't need any more sweet lolitas, do you have any classic or gothic?
...i, what?
>try to explain that it's not sweet lolita.
"yes it is look at the colors, it's pink and purple!"
>point out black sweet lolita dresses
"that's bittersweet, it's different"
>nope nope nope
>go to fashion show which is a derptastic trainwreck as usual.
>friend who is hosting the panel comes over
"oh, anon, why weren't you in the fashion show? we had hardly any classic lolis
i. fucking. wonder.

i seriously don't get it, colors don't make the style dammit!

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:34:34 2013 No.6982045

>>6982018
Seriously, it just looks ill conceived and messy. I have a Baby dress with both detachable straps and a halter neck; when I wear it as a halter I just don't wear a blouse underneath. It's 95 degrees out right now, I'd rather not sweat profusely if I can avoid it.

Also: those boat neck sailor collars. I'd never wear a blouse underneath them either; too many collars.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:36:34 2013 No.6982046 Lolita isn't cosplay. It's a hobby for ugly rich chicks to attract pedophiles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:36:34 2013 No.6982047 >>6982042 seriously? that's so stupid. fucking con lolitas oh well, con fashion shows usually suck hard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:37:34 2013 No.6982049 >>6981959 Yeah but there's way more of them on tumblr (and way worse), so it's easier to get lost in the sea of posts and go unnoticed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:39:34 2013 No.6982054 >>6981986 Man, it wouldn't even piss me off if they just tagged their shit. That's the worst part.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:45:34 2013 No.6982060 >>6981524 >butthurt femnazi oh god you sound twelve years old.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:47:34 2013 No.6982065

>>6981945
I started birth control then noticed the weight gain. So I just worked it off and now thinner than I ever been. I know bodies are different and people take to medication different, but don't let birthcontrol stop you from trying, *encouragement*

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:50:34 2013 No.6982068 >>6982065 Thank you. I know I don't do the best of things for my body. At my thinnest, I was 150 and I'm 5'6". But thank you so much for encouragement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:52:34 2013 No.6982073 >>6982047 Yeah, it was pretty bad, basically everyone was sweet, and most of them were the noobish "I just rolled around in deco icing and accessories" sort, which I like if it's done well, but these were not done well in the slightest.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:56:34 2013 No.6982076 >>6982002 It was more the fact that instead of sewing lace on the bodice of a JSK, they photoshopped it on, and the fabric was pretty cheap looking polyester. It's a shame because I always think their stuff is beautiful in photos.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:59:34 2013 No.6982081 >>6982076 I just think the fat chubby naked babies obsession is stupid. JetJ, get another designer, not everyone wants to wear paintings

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 16:59:34 2013 No.6982082 >>6981976 If it's not a print, it's probably not very recognizable as a replica. You could technically just say it's a Taobao set, you wouldn't have to say it's a replica.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:03:34 2013 No.6982090 >>6982081 Then.. you could buy a different brand?? I mean I know this is an opinion thread but I don't see how the solution to 'I don't like this designer' isn't 'buy from another designer'...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:07:34 2013 No.6982098 >>6982081 Yeah, the painting dresses are getting boring now, especially since it's sparked 101 indie brands doing the same thing. Renaissance art is so... blah.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:10:34 2013 No.6982103 >>6982098 The painting dresses are so easy to do... its like they recycle the same dress design. It makes it easier to make more dresses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:10:34 2013 No.6982104 >>6982098 >Renaissance art is so... blah. PLEB

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:16:34 2013 No.6982110

>>6982103
I think if they did more than just take a painting and slap it on the front of the skirt I wouldn't mind so much, like if there was actually, I don't know, just something more to it. As it stands, it looks like clip art. (This applies to all painting dresses, not just JetJ's.)

>>6982104
Sorry anon, it's just not my thing, haha. My favourite artist is Dali if that explains anything.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:19:34 2013 No.6982122

>>6982042
>colors don't make the style
Okay, if I'm understanding correctly, then I agree with you - colors don't necessarily define the style.
What makes a coord/dress gothic lolita? It can't just be about dark colors/black. At what point does an outfit go from kuro to gothic?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:30:34 2013 No.6982149
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>>6982122
It's a lot about cuts, accessories and theme. You can take a toned down black dress and wear it with the right accessories and make it either just 'kuro' which is usually classic or sweet at that point and depending on how 'sweet' looking the dress is you can make it more gothic, but you can't do the same for say a sweet black dress(pic related) or really sweet up a gothic dress. The dress I posted here is too frilly with lace and bows to work in a goth coord, even though there are many other AP dresses that would work out just fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:31:34 2013 No.6982152 >>6982110 I was just joking around, anon. We all have different tastes! I love Dali, too.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:31:34 2013 No.6982153 File: 103 KB, 300x400, 4d145266ecc44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6982110 Here's your Dali dress, anon. And sorry for shitty shooping.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:34:34 2013 No.6982159 File: 92 KB, 640x480, 1302585976037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6982153

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:35:34 2013 No.6982164 >>6982153 You could charge my firstborn child for this dress and I'd happily agree

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:37:34 2013 No.6982165 >>6982153 WHERE DO I THROW MY MONEY

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:40:34 2013 No.6982173

>>6982110
I know your favourite artist feeling. I'd love a lolified L.S. Lowry border print with tiny little lolitas and kodonas walking around below smoggy, faintly gothic industrial skylines, but that'd never happen. At least Misty Sky fulfils some of my desire for a Rene Magritte dress.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:41:34 2013 No.6982177 >>6982173 God, marry me please.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:47:34 2013 No.6982182 >>6982153 Haha funnily enough, for a dali dress I sort of imagine a dress that has these areas of 3D objects coming up from the dress, maybe appliques or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:52:34 2013 No.6982190 >>6982182 It wouldn't be hard to have appliqued butterflies on that. I more prefer Dali's earlier works than his later. But what really makes me all excited is M.C. Esher. >>6982173 Let me see if I cant work some photoshop magic for fun. ;)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:56:34 2013 No.6982200 >>6982182 >Dress with lclocks melting on it's border. PLEASE SOMEONE.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 17:58:34 2013 No.6982207

>>6981989
>The problem about buying second hand is that the brand isn't going to make money from the sale.
...I hadn't even considered that. I do buy first hand from them, so it's not like they never have my monetary support.
>I seriously wish you so much luck.
I'll probably end up buying the Taobao replica, and then if the original ever shows up, buy that too. Thanks for the good wishes.

>>6982025
Yes. Yes, I would.

>>6982033
Hmm...I don't expect it to be the same quality as brand. That is definitely something to consider, though.
And it's not about price. I'd pay anything for this set. I just can't find it.

>>6982036
I hope I don't come off as entitled.

>>6982082
It's not a print, but it's very recognizable. I'd feel like I would be lying if I didn't say it was a replica.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:04:34 2013 No.6982222
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>>6982173
Here you are. :)
Sage for going completely off-topic, but not really. I think they need to experiment with different art.

Harley !!Ocs2iA9hfoy Thu Jul 18 18:05:34 2013 No.6982226

>>6982022
We're the same size. But at least we can walk into a normal store and walk out with at least some basic shoes to coord with. I feel worse for anybody who has bigger feet. My poor grandma wore a 13aa and had to special order all her shoes. She was 5' 10" too.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:17:34 2013 No.6982256

>>6982152
No worries, I wasn't really offended.

>>6982153
My purse. Fetch me my purse.

But seriously, what I wouldn't give for a dress with Atmospheric Skull Sodomizing a Grand Piano on it.

>>6982173
There's loads of artists whose style I think could really work as prints. I've been thinking of throwing a few ideas together or something, but I don't know who to do first!

>>6982190
>M.C. Escher
You are a flaw free individual.

>>6982182
You should look up Alexander McQueen's butterfly collection. I love the idea of 3D elements. Sculptural dresses are my favourite. I've had the Pattern Magic books on my wishlist for ages. I dream of creating a lolita dress in the style of Viktor & Rolf.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:24:34 2013 No.6982268 File: 120 KB, 480x640, 137218-iv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6982042 OHOHOHO, my secret pet peeve is the opposite of this problem: sweet lolitas thinking obviously sweet pieces somehow qualify as classic Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 18:35:34 2013 No.6982295 >>6982268 That's a difficult dress to claim as either sweet or classic though. Heck, It could even be country lolita (if its still around). It really depends how you accessorize it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 19:37:34 2013 No.6982412 >>6981497 omg are you me. yes

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:31:34 2013 No.6982502

>>6981762
lol, go back to /fit/ if you're so offended by how I look.

>>6981776
you are so sweet, thank you! :) I love gothic on taller girls, hell I love every style on taller girls. I think anyone can pull off sweet with the right pieces, though like you said, long sweet pieces are hard to find. If you ever want to try a sweet piece, Infanta's Sweet Dolly House jsk/op are pretty long. LovelyLor and Peachie both wear it and they're 5'7" and 5'6", the jsk/op hit just at the knee on both of them. Also, old school sweet is the bomb and some older baby dresses are longer. You probably know all that though!

I'd love to take a picture with you too! The contrast of gothic and sweet is so fun to highlight in pictures. I'd love to see some of your coords!

>>6981916
Yes I agree, I was just looking at a half wig yesterday. My hair is usually naturally pretty thick, that day I blow dried it to keep it tamer. But looking back at photos, with an alice bow, I def need bigger hair. :) I want some more plastic stretch bracelets with star and heart beads, and maybe stick a rhinestone or two on my cheekbones, a fluffy charm on my purse too. The more OTT the better!

>>6981926
Thank you! Another loli I admire said that natural hair keeps even OTT coords from looking too overdone.

Now though, I just need to find a wig or some falls that flatter my face and aren't too overwhelming since I'm short and chubby. A half wig or some ponytail clips would be nice, since it's been really hot lately and it would keep the hair off my neck.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:32:34 2013 No.6982504 >>6981945 >size 16 >"medium sized" Girl don't kid yourself

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:33:34 2013 No.6982507 >>6982207 it's the Princess Claudia OP isn't it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:38:34 2013 No.6982517 >>6982502 haha oops, I quoted the wrong post. >>6981764 >>6982504 /fit/ is that way ->

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:50:34 2013 No.6982535

>>6982507
Nope. It would be the IW set with the blue skirt.
Penguin something?
It is a colab/ tie on with an anime I believe. It sold out immediately and because (I assume) there is much love for the source material and character it represents NO ONE has sold it.
*i am not the girl who wants it. She would be more specific with the name, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:51:34 2013 No.6982538 >>6982507 >>6982207 Is it that iw set???? I saw you post about it a while ago.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:52:34 2013 No.6982539 I honestly think that people with ugly faces shouldn't even bother cosplaying characters that have their faces uncovered and aren't supposed to be ugly. No matter how well made a costume is, the face ruins it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:53:34 2013 No.6982542 >>6981980 >Summer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:54:34 2013 No.6982544 >>6982535 >>6982538 oh that!! the mawaru penguindrum collab? usually I'd be wary of a replica but that hardly ever shows up for sale anywhere. go for it if you want!

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 20:54:34 2013 No.6982545

>>6982517
Different anon, but size 16 (at least in the US) is definitely not a size M. Is XL or perhaps larger, if my memory serves me correctly. I'm not saying that it's inherently bad, but she should probably acknowledge that she isn't a size M, at least not in any brands that I'm aware of.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:00:34 2013 No.6982556 >>6982545 I wasn't saying i fit in a size medium. I'm easily an L to XL. I'm not a landwhale by any means, but I'm not saying skinny either. Its like a happy medium.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:01:34 2013 No.6982557

>>6982538
>a while
It was a couple days at most and they spammed a few threads then made their OWN thread about it. Girl, calm the fuck down, holy shit.

>>6982545
This
You're nowhere near a medium. Now that's not necessarily a problem, but you're kidding yourself otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:17:34 2013 No.6982582 >>6982556 I think the word you're looking for is average. Don't worry, anon, I knew what you meant.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:17:34 2013 No.6982583 >>6982582 Thank you. I swear I need more sleep today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:20:34 2013 No.6982590 I really hate AP. It costs so much and it seems like everyone has to have something by them, at least in my comm. The stuff they have is ok, but it's so ridiculously priced I just hate it by default.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:25:34 2013 No.6982598

>>6981734
>>6981742
Oops, I meant 31. Don't know how I mistyped that. (I'm 23, so unless I gain some mega weight, this isn't going to change.)

I don't like what I see from JetJ now. Come of their old stuff is nice, but I haven't seen many new things that I liked. The bibliotheque jsk and skirt are nice, but the OP is just weird with some man's face in your armpit.

>Dali
>M.C. Escher
These would be amazing!
My favorite painting is Las Meninas by Velázquez, but fuck if I want to see that on a dress at this point. It's look is just too overdone tight now. I want me some melting clocks though!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:39:34 2013 No.6982619 >>6981556 Newest sounding person on this whole board

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:41:34 2013 No.6982621 On the topic of painting dresses, I'd love one with Stubbs' Whistlejacket. It's a very beautiful, understated painting, so probably wouldn't be exciting enough to ever happen, but God, it'd be gorgeous.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:44:34 2013 No.6982625 >>6981405 I think sweet prints in black colorways look fucking gross. Reminds me of scene kids. Bright, kiddy colors right next to that gothy, dark black ... eugh.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:47:34 2013 No.6982633
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>>6982621
>Stubbs' Whistlejacket
That is so beautiful. :D
I would love to have a dress in memoriam to my friends husband who passed away. His bird painting are amazing!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 21:50:34 2013 No.6982638 >>6982633 That is really lovely. I'm sorry for your loss.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:02:34 2013 No.6982660 >>6982638 Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:39:34 2013 No.6982716 >>6981989 I think the main idea/support for buying secondhand is that you're buying from another lolita, who may likely spend that $ on a new brand release

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:47:34 2013 No.6982720

>>6982716
Agreed. A lot of times I end up selling my stuff to afford a brand release. I do buy things second hand, but my preference has switched to first hand because I like knowing that anything that is wrong with a dress, it's something I personally did, and I don't feel so disheartened finding a random unmentioned stain while ironing/steaming.

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:50:34 2013 No.6982725

>>6981989
Well, they do indirectly. It's sort of tricky economically, but especially with high-end purchases, much of what drives the main purchase is the knowledge of being able to sell second-hand. Especially in a market like lolita clothing, which is often purchased by young people who frequently go through outfits/decide not to keep items long-term, knowing that you can resell something you purchase is a crucial part of the decision to purchase the item in the first place. So in supporting the second-hand market, you are indirectly supporting brands since this makes those who have more funds more comfortable with making the original purchase. Obviously you're giving MORE to the brand if you purchase new, but buying second-hand is not necessarily equivalent to not supporting the brand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:51:34 2013 No.6982730 >>6982557 >Its like a happy medium. NOWHERE NEAR A MEDIUM OMG!!!! She said, she's a "happy medium" (aka, middle ground, not the fucking size) between thin and landwhale. Reading comprehension. Did they teach that in class?

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:57:34 2013 No.6982743

>>6982730
>Also, I don't have the most fit body. Its more medium sized

I don't see anything about a "happy medium," but it's possible I missed an earlier post where she said? All I see is the part where she says she says directly that she's medium-sized.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:58:34 2013 No.6982744 >>6982556 OHHH okay. That makes sense now!

Anonymous Thu Jul 18 22:58:34 2013 No.6982745

>>6982535
I guess I should be less obvious. Yes, it's the Mawaru Penguindrum set.

>>6982538
Yes.

>>6982544
>go for it if you want!
Wow, never seen much support for replica buyers. I think I'm probably set on getting the replica at this point.

>>6982557
I posted in dream dress threads, a buy and sell thread, and then deleted the thread I made about it specifically. I want it very much for personal reasons that I won't go into in this thread. I'm sorry if I came off as too desperate, but I am.

>>6982716
>>6982720
>>6982725
I'd support the second hand market for this set if there was a second hand market for this set. I've purchased second hand brand before and have no problems with it. This set is, as far as I've seen, simply unavailable.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:02:34 2013 No.6982756 >>6981405 pretty much the only black sweet print i have ever liked is milky berry. i think the only reason it looks okay is because the print has bright reds instead of pastels. on black, pastels just end up looking washed out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:17:34 2013 No.6982776 Is this a decent half wig for volume? I've wanted a wig with two curls down the back for a while. >http://www.ebay.com/itm/Half-head-80-traceless-wig-wigs-lady-women-girl-100-top-kanekalon-hair-/130776231571

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:31:34 2013 No.6982787 >>6982730 well, if you think about it, the average US women is a size 14. So maybe she's a medium when next to everyone she's around because let's face it the US is not known for their small waist lines.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:35:34 2013 No.6982797 >>6981488 I do this mainly because I hate my community and never want to see their poorly dressed faces out side of conventions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:48:34 2013 No.6982807 >>6981712 >I'm OTT gothic and my favorite kinds of lolita are sweet, oldschool which is what used to be called classic lolita, and OTT sweet I hope you're a troll because if you're not you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 18 23:59:34 2013 No.6982828 >>6981761 hi rachel

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:00:34 2013 No.6982829 >>6982828 lol hi

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:12:34 2013 No.6982859

>>6981712
I like classic, but it's hard for me to find items that I really like. The items I do own that fit within the classic category have some sort of print or something that really makes it pop. I find a lot of the basic floral items to be too plain for my tastes. Then again, there's stuff I really love from MM and VM, but ain't no way I'll ever fit into those.

I own a lot more sweet and enjoy going into the realm of OTT, especially for large meetups and conventions. Though I usually pick one day to wear something classic or gothic (typically, Sunday as it's a little easier to change out of without tons of accessories). I don't know, I just enjoy bright pastel rainbow colors, cutesy motifs, and cute plastic jewelry. Don't get me wrong, I adore classic and gothic, but I don't find any style to be superior over another. So I don't really understand the superiority complex so many people seem to have. It's just preference when it comes down to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:12:34 2013 No.6982862 >>6982745 >This set is, as far as I've seen, simply unavailable. You haven't looked hard or long enough for it. No one gets Puppet Circus after a week of crying about it on /cgl/.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:19:34 2013 No.6982879 >>6982862 This. This is why your whinging posts about it are fucking annoying. You sound really entitled to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:25:34 2013 No.6982890 >>6982862 >>6982879 Not that anon, but has anyone seen that set for sale? I haven't, but I only trawl the comm sales and not auction sites.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:27:34 2013 No.6982899 >>6982862 Don't even try to compare Puppet Circus to the Penguindrum set. PC was released in 2006 and the MP set was released in 2011.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:32:34 2013 No.6982908 >>6982890 I remember seeing a WTB for it months ago. Idk if it ever got answered.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:36:34 2013 No.6982918

>>6982859
I can totally relate. I don't feel like myself in classic at all, but it always looks so gorgeous on other people. Love VM and MM's Marie Antoinette styled OPs, but like you there's no way to fit those. Sweet is my main squeeze, I also love the pastel rainbow and cutesy stuff. Can't get enough of it.

I think gothic looks so gorgeous, goth lolis look to me like they could be beautiful vampires or witches. Goth is so cool.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:36:34 2013 No.6982920

I know im going to get hate for this and i would never say it if i wasn't an anon but here goes:

I really dislike fat girls in lolita. I know other people think they look cute but i just don't see it, all i see is someone who is too voluptuous to fit and look good in a cute fashion.
I have tried to change my perspective: really i have! But i just can't get over the disgust that i feel when i see fat girls in lolita.
I know i am a horrible person.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:37:34 2013 No.6982922

>>6982862
it's not like puppet circus though, puppet circus still sells once in a long while. this set seems to have never sold secondhand, and it's so rare it's doubtful it'll go up for auction any time within the next two years. It's like Choco Lapin.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:43:34 2013 No.6982933

>>6982922
This. Puppet Circus gets sold second hand on occasion, even when it goes for almost $1,000 in auction. I've never seen this Penguin set sold.

What's so special about it anyways? From what I gather from google, it's from an anime? Obsessed anon said she would buy the replica and then pay anything for the real deal, wtf makes an Innocent World set that special? Why is no one selling it?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:44:34 2013 No.6982936 >>6981740 Perth comm?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:49:34 2013 No.6982943 >>6982920 i highly doubt you're the only one who feels this way. fat girls in lolita pretty much ruin the point of lolita for me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:52:34 2013 No.6982946 >>6982933 >Why is no one selling it? Probably because almost nobody bought it, and chances are it would be broken up and sold as individual items

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:56:34 2013 No.6982949

>>6982943
why does what other people wear ruin lolita for you? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious. Do you hold lolitas up to a high physical standard? It's a fashion about looking cute or elegant, can't fat girls look cute or elegant if they make a good coord?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 00:59:34 2013 No.6982953 >>6982946 I thought it sold out right away? Was I misinformed?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:00:34 2013 No.6982954 >>6982949 >can't fat girls look cute or elegant if they make a good coord Obviously that anon doesn't think they can. I find nothing interesting or truthful to this opinion and I'm glad it remains unpopular.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:05:34 2013 No.6982959 >>6982625 Not sure if this is actually an unpopular opinion, but I 100% agree. Rose secret scent in black being the most recent atrocity coming to mind

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:07:34 2013 No.6982963 >>6982954 if anon is so upset by fatty-chans ruining her ideal of lolita she needs to grow up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:09:34 2013 No.6982967 >>6982953 It did sell out right away, but like all anime collabs with lolita brands, the people who buy it buy it for keeps. It's not remotely comparable to popular AP or AATP prints.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:11:34 2013 No.6982970 >>6982959 Ugghhh this one was so fucking awful. It looked so abrupt and clipart-y in the black.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:13:34 2013 No.6982971 >>6982967 Yeah, like the Btssb Kuragehime collab? That shit never sells secondhand either. Though the real thing would be awesome its probably not going to sell secondhand. Anon is better off getting the replica.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:14:34 2013 No.6982974

>>6982953

Only the specific colourways similar to the anime sold out within the first two days, the blouse and skirt in other colourways hung around for a bit longer. The boots were not part of the set, by the way, they just slapped on a random pair of socks and boots from their shop. (I decided not to get the set based on the boots, high waisted skirts look terrible on me anyways, but if they'd done the entire look complete with boots I'd have bought it.)

You probably realised this already, but you're not really looking for a set called "Mawaru Penguindrum set". It's one blouse called the Himari blouse and one skirt called the Himari skirt, so basically you need to look at any listing that says "blue IW blouse" or "blue IW skirt" as well. I honestly can't recall if I've seen it sold, I look at IW auctions mostly and there's a lot of generic looking skirts like that one, so maybe one slipped by.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:17:34 2013 No.6982980 >>6982890 Ive seen pieces of it on auction separately and together. You need to look EVERYWHERE incl closetchild and rakuten second hand shops religiously before coming to us saying its unfindable.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:17:34 2013 No.6982981

>>6982946
>Probably because almost nobody bought it, and chances are it would be broken up and sold as individual items
That's hilarious. It sold out the same hour it was on the site. I wasn't interested because I don't really care about the anime, but I like Innocent World very much.

I feel badly for anon, or obsessed-chan or whatever you want to call her. I doubt she will ever get her hands on the real set.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:18:34 2013 No.6982984 >>6982980 I didn't say it was unfindable. I said that I had never seen it specifically because I only look at comm sales.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:20:34 2013 No.6982987

I hate large meetups and I hate meetups that take place in places like malls or movie theaters. I really subscribe to the idea that you should match your clothing to the occasion. If youre going to see a play or you are going to a fancy, crystal event why would you wear sweet? Similarly it looks dumb if you wear classic to a club night or amusement park.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:22:34 2013 No.6982993 >>6982987 So... you think comms should limit specific meets to only members that dress a certain style??

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:29:34 2013 No.6983004

>>6982987
You can wear classy sweet, or hime styled sweet. I'm a sweet lolita and when our comm went to see a ballet, I wore a pink dress and coordinated it with gold jewelry and pearl necklaces, and a big rose hair accessory (I took it off during the performance so I wouldn't bother anyone behind me). If I went this year I'd wear a ballet-themed dress like Etoile Twins, Pas De Deux, Swan Lake, or Lac du Cygnes. But really, for a special event, you can make a simpler sweet coord without any crazy plastic jewelry or colorful wigs and still work with your style.

And you could wear classic in a halloween-y themed coord to an amusement park in the fall, or a country floral dress in the summer. There's plenty of options. You could probably get away with a casual classic coord to a bar at least. Does anyone wear lolita to a club in general? I could imagine wearing gothic to a goth club but I'd be terrified of staining whatever I wore.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:29:34 2013 No.6983006 >>6982993 No I don't think the comm should limit the meet. People are free to attend and dress as they wish it is just my personal preference that appropriate outfits look better in the environment they match.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:31:34 2013 No.6983012 >>6983004 What you are describing makes sense to me. It should probably have been OTT sweet as the example.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:32:34 2013 No.6983014 >>6982974 >so basically you need to look at any listing that says "blue IW blouse" or "blue IW skirt" as well I would be so pissed if that's how I'd have to find my dream dress. But people do crazy things for the ones they love...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:32:34 2013 No.6983016 >>6982987 I dislike mall meetups because I am 25 years old and am not interested in slumping about a mall for 2 hours like a teenager, in or out of lolita

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:43:34 2013 No.6983046 >>6981524 Enjoy using a word rush limbaugh coined. Eugh

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:48:34 2013 No.6983063 >>6983046 I agree. SJWs on tumblr/ IRL piss me off as much as the next person, but I'm sure as hell not going to use feminazi to refer to them for the exact reason you described.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:48:34 2013 No.6983064 >>6982963 Im the anon who posted the original comment: I don't think fat girls are "Ruining" lolita. I said that i couldn't find fat girls visually pleasing in lolita. I know its a stupid thing to think.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 01:49:34 2013 No.6983067 PENGUIN-CHAN JUST BUY THE REPLICA.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:01:34 2013 No.6983106 >>6983063 Lol same. I just can't stand the man. Just his voice alone is fucking irritating and then throw in all the test of his crazy..... Ugh I hate him!

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:04:34 2013 No.6983114

>>6983106
My freshman year of college I was rooming with some girls who seemed to be really nice, though a bit sheltered. Then it came out that they "really admired" Limbaugh and O'Reilly. That was when I realized they might not be as kind as I had thought.

SURPRISE they both ended up being psycho bitches.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:52:34 2013 No.6983189
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>>6983114
that sounds horrible, anon. :( my first year roommates were just stuck up rich kids who never took out their garbage. compared with yours though they're not that bad after all.
pic very related.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 02:57:34 2013 No.6983196

>Spike headbands look out of place in any other style than punk
>Creepycute is the fucking most ridiculous, pretentious and ita style I've ever seen no matter who wears it and it needs to disappear
>those fucking x-ray stockings are so tasteless are you fucking 12 years old jesus christ
>Split wigs look fucking terrible in gyaru and any other style outside of OTTSL
>I think galaxy print looks like shit and it's already an old, overused thing
>People need to stop using michelle phan tier cosplay makeup for fashion

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 03:03:34 2013 No.6983203 >>6983196 What are xray stockings?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 03:04:34 2013 No.6983204 >>6983203 I think the skeleton bone ones?

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 03:16:34 2013 No.6983212

>>6983046
>I better not use a word because someone I don't like said it
Do you struggle often in the real world because a bunch of things are said by people you don't like? Do you have a dictionary of words you just not say because someone who you find offensive says them? That's pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 03:31:34 2013 No.6983226 >>6983212 Yeah that's retarded. Doubly so because feminazi is a word so aptly describing these girls: spouting the mantra of the day of what they take to be "feminism" with the ignorance and undying enthusiasm of a rabid nazi. See? Works well.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 03:51:34 2013 No.6983248

>>6983226
It doesn't describe anybody. you're just saying any feminist who is too liberal for your liking should be compared with genocidal maniacs. that's pretty disgusting. saying someone doesn't share the same beliefs as you is fine, but calling them a name that equates them with fascist, racist murderers hell bent on eradicating over 11 million people is completely asinine. The Nazis were not just ignorant and enthusiastic. They built facilities for dehumanizing people, killed them en masse, all to make their horrifying ideals come to life. Until feminists start taking away peoples' citizenship, forcing them into ghettos, and rounding people up to go to camps, you simply cannot compare Nazis with modern day feminists. There is absolutely no basis for comparison at all.

Hell, it's like calling any racial activist a Black Panther. They are nothing alike. Stop trying to find associations between violent murderers that ruin peoples' lives and overzealous activists that make you slightly annoyed. It's ignorant and immature to make these associations and create slurs because you think they accurately describe a group of people you don't like.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:20:34 2013 No.6983265

To add onto classic loli superiority... I know a girl who reeks of this classic lolita syndrome. It makes me a bit ashamed to like the same substyle as her.

She is proud of herself for affording her entire wardrobe and never asking for other people to purchase things for her. As a result she thinks that everyone else follows sweet lolita because they are "common sheep/followers" and all they do is gorge themselves on cake/sweets and their wardrobe is funded because their boyfriends or mommy and daddy buy it. They never work for it and therefore makes all sweet lolita sound like immature brats. The classic lolita superiority also continues because apparently she, like a classic lolita, is a grown up and mature woman who likes to sit down and drink tea while carrying herself on a high throne because she doesn't dress herself in childish fashions. I don't really know why people think it's okay to adopt this mentality!

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:27:34 2013 No.6983271
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>>6983248
>you're just saying any feminist who is too liberal for your liking should be compared with genocidal maniacs
Liberal? Liberal has nothing to do with being a feminazi. Feminazis are fucking RETARDED and radical. Forget about making the issue about liberalism. And yes there is a difference between a feminist and a feminazi. So sad that you feel so personally attacked that you defend the latter.
>racist murderers hell bent on eradicating over 11 million people is completely asinine
Boo fucking hoo? Are you trying to convince us you're the morality po-po on 4chan? Really bitch?

Anyway it's pretty obvious you're the butthurt feminazi tumblrite seeing as though you've put so much effort into deconstructing a passing comment on 4chan. While you're busy doling on lectures on 'maturity' I suggest you take a heaping portion of it for yourself to suck on.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:30:34 2013 No.6983274

>>6983248
I consider myself liberal and I don't like feminazis and SJW tumblr people. And no I'm not ignorant for the fact. These people fucking suck and instead of defending their behavior you should be distancing yourself from it to make your ideology seem more credible.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:33:34 2013 No.6983276

>>6983265
>a grown up and mature woman
>doesn't dress in childish fashions

she does realize that classic lolita is still based on victorian girls' fashions? or is she just legally retarded?

when people assume sweet lolitas are all "style sheep" and do nothing original, and like the same prints just because they're popular, it drives me nuts. like god forbid a bunch of AP fans like a new print, they're such "followers" because they like something. give me a break.

we're all wearing clothes that make us look ridiculous to most people. no one style is somehow better, nor its wearers superior. we can all be kawaii as fuck in different substyles.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:37:34 2013 No.6983281
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Every single time there is a thread on lolita pet peeves or unpopular opinions you fucking people ruin it with ranting about how much you hate fucking SJW people or feminists on Tumblr and then the people who fucking argue against it, and both of your sides are so fucking annoying.

Jesus fucking christ all of you people just shut the fuck up and get back on topic because you all ruin fucking everything good.

Inb4 hurr hurr butthurt feminazi liberal tumblrfag because no this is not the place for ANY of this bullshit. It's so annoying. Christ just PLEASE shut the fuck up all of you god dammit.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:38:34 2013 No.6983282

>>6983271
Not even radical shitty feminists are anything like Nazis. I'm saying it's a stupid as fuck comparison to make. If you're so upset by their behavior that you feel the need to label them with the same name as genocidal fascists, then be a better feminist than them and set a good example instead of getting upset at how I spend my time.

>>6983274
Bad feminists make me mad, but just because they suck doesn't mean you should compare them with Nazis. My point stands. I'm not defending them, I'm saying that calling them Nazis just makes you sound like a fedora neckbeard who hates women. Obviously you're not one of those people, so just call them "radical, poor excuses for feminists." See? Was that so hard?

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:40:34 2013 No.6983283
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>>6983281
>people arguing in an unpopular opinions thread
>SJWs getting particularly buttmad
>implying this is unusual
>implying nobody ever argues in these threads
>implying you're just not adding to the clusterfuck of unnecessary shit being said
Fuck off Shrekkie, it's ogre.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:41:34 2013 No.6983286

>>6983282
>Not even radical shitty feminists are anything like Nazis.
Bullshit. Even the ones that wish they could systematically castrate men and firmly believe women are the superior gender? Oh yeah, nothing nazi about that. At all. You win. Okay.
Stupid bitch shut up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:41:34 2013 No.6983288 File: 50 KB, 500x667, tumblr_mq59xunm7l1s7qh4io1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6983203 This crap. Looks like a cheap party city halloween accessory like all of creepycute stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:46:34 2013 No.6983293 File: 53 KB, 600x800, 31969.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6983288 >Looks like a cheap party city halloween accessory It is a cheap party city halloween accessory

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:46:34 2013 No.6983294
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>>6983283
Can you not fucking read you dumb cunt? I clearly stated EVERYONE, not just butthurt SJWs, fucking ruins these threads and goes off topic. This thread is already ruined so it doesn't matter if I'm adding to the clusterfuck.

Shrek all of your privilege you fairytale scum.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:49:34 2013 No.6983297 File: 151 KB, 432x320, 1369243466354.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6983293 >Pelvis isn't even in the right spot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:52:34 2013 No.6983302 >>6983288 that skirt looks like a napkin. what the fuck.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:52:34 2013 No.6983303
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>>6983294
>getting this fucking mad over the SJW statement
>proving that you are in fact an SJW
Nobody else would get this damn mad. Nobody. So can you stop embarrassing yourself? I think 'everyone' has had enough. Stop replying, don't respond. It's ogre.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:53:34 2013 No.6983305
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>>6983286

Don't forget the ones that tell everyone who disagrees with them to kill themselves/drink bleach/stab themselves/go die in a corner. And then go "LOL WHITE/MAN TEARS" when confronted with the fact they just told a person to suicide.

SJ wankers make me so fucking mad.

Also, unpopular opinion? I fucking love qi lolita. Even the ones with the busy prints (though not necessarily the ones with the cheap brocade or the dragon emblem that i see on cosplay sites all the time). I want to wear them all.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 04:56:34 2013 No.6983310
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>>6983293
The most despicable thing about this is that all the tumblr ~*creepy cute pastelgoth*~ douches sell this and the ugly as fuck eyeball accessories they got for $0.20 from taobao in their storenvy boutiques and claim they're "hand-made" because they glued glitter and bows on them.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:03:34 2013 No.6983316
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>>6983303
Stop making shit up. I said so many times that everybody ON BOTH SIDES is being fucking annoying. Fucking learn to read, dipshit. It's pretty obvious that yes I'm mad because all of this stupid shit from EVERYBODY arguing and getting mad is clogging up shit that's actually relevant to this board. And it's not even this board. It's literally fucking everywhere and both of you people, stupid shitty SJWs who post idiotic bullshit and people like you who have to post how much you hate these type of stupid people are literally fucking everywhere and never shut up about your views. Nobody fucking cares about any of you and you're so annoying because it's all you people talk about 24/7.

I want to drown all of you in the fucking swamp and eat every layer of your flesh.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:03:34 2013 No.6983317 >>6983305 qi lolita is usually made with shiny fabric and that kills it for me. the pic you posted is actually cute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:06:34 2013 No.6983318 >>6983316 >>6983303 >>6983294 >>6983283 >>6983281 >so randum xD

>>	sage sage Fri Jul 19 05:09:34 2013 No.6983321 File: 8 KB, 226x250, okay.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6983318 Eat shit and die.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:21:34 2013 No.6983338 my pet peeve is having all the measurements to wear lolita comfortably but my boobs are too small for most dresses

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:30:34 2013 No.6983346

>>6983276
I'd like to think that her logic is slightly impaired because in the end she's just one of *those* girls who is a special snowflake. To be fair, there are a lot of sweet lolitas but what's it to you on what they spend their money on or what they like? She keeps picking out prints/dresses that look like old grammy pajamas anyway.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:32:34 2013 No.6983347

My unpopular opinion is that I wish brands had smaller sizes. I'm not even anorexically thin. I just hate how ugly the backs of my dresses look because I have to lace them up so much or pull the waist ties smaller. It just looks lumpy and not cute at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:35:34 2013 No.6983349 >>6983347 This, because shirring is ugly and allows fatties to wear things they shouldn't.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:37:34 2013 No.6983351 >>6983347 YEESSSSSS

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:45:34 2013 No.6983356

Classic lolita snobs. I honestly believe their mentality comes from an inner feeling of inferiority or something. So they have to build themselves up and feel superior to others to make up for feelings of inadequacy and/or lack of attention when a deep desire for attention is present

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:57:34 2013 No.6983363 >>6983356 such as?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 05:59:34 2013 No.6983364 >>6983347 Agreed. I also wish they'd targeted it at skinny girls rather than chubby ones so that I would fit the fixed size items, like gyaru.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:02:34 2013 No.6983365

>>6983014

It's half the reason I already look at everything in yja's Angelic Pretty category, I'm looking for something scallop something by AP. It's basically an old school pink dress. Thank god it's not a dream dress, hasn't turned up in the two+ years that I've been keeping an eye for it for, I just want it because some taobao BJD dress I have is modelled after that, and it's darn cute.

I also look at everything in AP's category because years ago I stumbled across a different spelling for Memorial Cake (it was written as anpuri memokeki), and nobody even writes Gingham Rose and Ribbon anymore, it's sometimes just listed as beibi sukato without even the gingamu part, so now I'm paranoid the dream dress I'm really looking for is up on yja/mbok, just under a different title.

On a different note, Juliette et Justine released a questionnaire on what they will re-release, so hopefully two of my dream dresses see a re-release next year.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:14:34 2013 No.6983373

>>6981741
All my comm is sweet OTT, and they made fun of me for a while into being classic, until it became big in the fashion. Now they try to achieve a classic look but really looks boring...I personally wear quite everything except sweet OTT because I don't like this particular style on me, but I have no clue about how people can think they are god-tier because they were more or less bright colour on their dresses.
Also, lost of newer classics are really boring, looking like formal/retro style more than real classic lolita. They drop too easily the princess/doll aesthetic part IMO

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:31:34 2013 No.6983379 >>6983305 >White tears detected This thread has already gone to shit so...

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:36:34 2013 No.6983381 >>6981578 This. I was interested in lolita for 8 years before I started actually dressing in it, and lets just say I didn't know shit about it until then.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:38:34 2013 No.6983385 >>6983338 Are you me ? I fucking float on OP, especially VM and MM.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:39:34 2013 No.6983386 >>6983379 Oh haha bitch I'm Chinese. Nice try though!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:40:34 2013 No.6983387 >>6983347 This so much ! Even IW's S size is too big for me !

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 06:52:34 2013 No.6983394 >Bodyline is made for fatties. I have a few pieces and they're all too big for me so they look kind of shit when I wear them >Moitie is fugly >That shade of blue Moitie uses makes everything look like shit, especially AP prints

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 07:15:34 2013 No.6983417 >>6981573 Gotta agree. I always end up looking odd in them because they're just too big. I have the same issue with skirts. Luckily a lot of mine are adjustable but they look a little odd when I have to bunch up the fabric so much with the elastic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 07:41:34 2013 No.6983432 >>6982018 High-neck blouses tho

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 07:54:34 2013 No.6983438 >>6982625 >Sweet prints in black >Scene kids Oh christ anon, I'll never be able to unsee that. Damn your eyes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 07:58:34 2013 No.6983441 My unpopular opinion is that I wish brands would make taller sizes. And I don't mean like just a longer skirt, I mean a longer bodice as well. I know it's never going to happen but I can dream.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:25:34 2013 No.6983450 >>6982797 Then why are you part of their comm? If they're poorly dressed you're hardly benefiting from their knowledge and shopping skills. Aside from that and the social aspect, there is literally no point to being in a community.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:29:34 2013 No.6983452 >>6983385 curse small boobs

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:35:34 2013 No.6983456 >>6981405 >>6981407 This.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 08:36:34 2013 No.6983458

>>6983196
Well I think sometimes a toned-down spike headband can look okay with a simple gothic outfit, and occasionally split wigs are acceptable if both sides are natural colours with low-to-medium contrast?

But aside from those two, I'm right there with you, especially the makeup thing, ugh any more that two pairs of falsies and you're just taking the piss.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 09:52:34 2013 No.6983495 >>6983338 >>6983385 Are you both me? I'm forever stuck in skirts and MAYBE a JSK, if the bust is small enough.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:07:34 2013 No.6983508

I really want to like h.FRILL, but I really hate most of their designs. I don't know if it looks any better in person, but pictures of a lot of their pieces just look gross.

I don't even get why there is this whole classic master race thing going on. Why are substyles so pissed at each other? It's such bullshit. I wouldn't be caught dead in an OTT coord, but I admire the fuck out of people who can do it well. I don't know what style I fit into with my AatP pieces and I don't really care. I just want to wear shit I love-and maybe hang out with fun and chill people who also wear shit they love-and hopefully talk and joke about the shit we love. END OF STORY.

I've been thinking about getting more into classic, but I doubt it'll change my personality. I already like tea, but I just drink it as a drink all the time. It doesn't make you classy. I don't know why people feel the need to be so stuck up.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 10:52:34 2013 No.6983535

>>6982920
You're not alone in your opinion.
It's actually a strong reason as to why I don't buy second-hand from the EGL sales comm. There is a greater than average chance of buying something that has been stretched out and not listed as being in that condition because the seller believes that it's not a "big" issue - pun fully intended.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 11:00:34 2013 No.6983551 >>6983349 Yes, a thousand fold.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:25:50 2013 No.6983756 >>6983365 What?! WHERE? I must fill out this questionnaire so JetJ brings back my dream dress

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:34:50 2013 No.6983766 >>6981712 >>6981741 >>6981749 >>6981761 You really had that long of a conversation with yourself just to post your ugly fat self?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:49:50 2013 No.6983792 >>6983281 If only. It's either this or the armchair nutritionist/fatshaming/weightloss battles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 14:53:50 2013 No.6983802 >>6983305 I fucking love qi lolita and I wish better pieces that taobao brands didn't get the kneejerk reaction just because they're qi (especially if you're not asian wearing them).

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 15:37:51 2013 No.6983889

>>6983508
>Why are substyles so pissed at each other?
It's always been that way; the supposed classic snobbery is just another turn of what's always been the POV of the current 'most popular' substyle.

People just can't let other people like different things, that's all it is.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 16:57:56 2013 No.6984056

>>6983889
I don't remember sweet lolitas getting so uppity when AP was at it's peak around 2010 or so. Sure there were a ton of newbies acting like special snowflakes, but they weren't mean specifically to other lolitas.
I feel like the underlying tone of classic brings out girls' catty Victorian side, while sweet subconsciously made girls hyper and loud. I preferred hyper and loud.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 17:16:11 2013 No.6984105 >>6984056 Maybe you didn't have them in your comm, but I definitely noticed them. Same with gothic back in the day, too; Mana snobs etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 17:17:13 2013 No.6984108 >>6984105 Oh yeah Manatards will be like that forever. Moitie's popularity seems to be rapidly decreasing but they are still out there.

Anonymous Fri Jul 19 19:14:10 2013 No.6984287

>>6983508 here

>>6984108
>>6984105
Oh, shit. You're right! I tried to block Manatards out of my memory. I don't remember them hating on sweet as much as how they worshiped everything that Mana did to a ridiculous level. I thought that most of the gothic vs sweet war was just made up internet dramu. Were people really that stupid?

I wish classic lolitas didn't have the rep of being snobby cunts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 19 20:21:12 2013 No.6984367 >>6982556 >xl >extra large >not a landwhale

Anonymous Sat Jul 20 01:54:18 2013 No.6984898

>>6982027
Damn, that's weird. Based on what I found, a size 42 and 43 are sizes 10 and 10.5 respectively for US women's, and most stores I've seen here in the states carry women's shoes up to size 11! I'm sorry you have to deal with that. at least our big American feet can provide you shoes??

Anonymous Sat Jul 20 11:26:15 2013 No.6985325

>>6981773
Honestly, I'm petite with large breasts and dresses look much better than skirts and blouses on me. Buttons tend to be problematic, even if the blouse isn't tight enough for them to be pulling. Without a jsk over them, blouses seem to sit funny too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 15:33:15 2013 No.6985581 Classic lolitas are behind the abuse of the word ageplay

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 20 23:41:15 2013 No.6986353 >>6983347 Not even really tiny and i completely agree with this! having to wear a push up bra with AP is redic.

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