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I had some really terrible experiences at past Otakons regarding safety. Two years ago, my group was escorting some of my other friends to their hotel which was kinda far from the convention center. While we were passing by, a large group of melanin-enriched gentleman were eying us. Luckily, a cop car passed by and they said, "shit it's the cops" and got the fuck out of there. Last year, I had to bring in a person in my group to the emergency room on pre-reg night because he was a fucking dumbass and ran around the streets of Baltimore without any fucking shoes on and stepped on some broken glass. By the time we got out it was four in the fucking morning and we had to walk around downtown baltimore for half an hour before finding a cab. On Saturday, I was walking alone to the rave and was almost attacked by a group of drunk Slavs. I had to pull out my knife before they backed off.

So this year I am going to bring 10 people to Otakon and was thinking about holding a con safety seminar a few days before we leave. I want to go over general con stuff like how to avoid creepers and crazy people and knowing where you group members are. However, most of the group is comprised of con veterans so I'm going to mainly cover outside the con safety. I want to emphasize sticking to groups and developing situational awareness using Jeff Cooper's color-coded Combat Mindset. We'll go to bars, but there will be designated sober persons who will look out for any danger or people trying to drop roofies. No strangers will be permitted in the room. No drugs will be allowed in the room. We will not go near any melanin-enriched gentlemen or slavs.

We will be armed. I personally will carry Fox 5.3 mean green OC spray, a kubotan, and a folding knife. I will suggest to people who are comfortable using weapons to bring them as well. I'm also thinking about making Millwall bricks that people can carry with them.

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6964455

>elanin-enriched gentleman

>> No.6964457

>>6964452
I will also teach self-defense moves like hitting vital targets such as eyes or the throat. However, I will emphasize situational awareness. I do not want to get into a fight in the middle of Baltimore because the melanin enriched gentlemen are probably armed with guns and knives and I don't want anyone to die. Fighting back is a last resort only. Ideally, I want everyone to have a fun and safe con where nothing bad happens. So does anyone have any suggestions on what I should include or exclude from my seminar?

>> No.6964462

> con safety seminar

they wont let you say "stay away from blacks" even if its good advice

>> No.6964466

>mfw my hotel is a 10 min walk away
Am I going to die?

>> No.6964469

>>6964452
>melanin-enriched gentlemen
just say what you mean
this is 4chan, not the pc olympics

>> No.6964472

>>6964452
how far is too far for walking back to a hotel? mine is like 1/3 mile, i think.

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6964473

Shouldn't you be watching coverage of the Zimmerman trial right about now?

>> No.6964485

George Zimmerman, is that you?

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>>6964452
>>6964457
Sounds pretty good! Two years ago while I was relaxing in the hallway with the slanted walls, a man came up to me (out of the 100s of other strangers sitting there as well) and started talking to me inches away from my face. He didn't go away until someone called him. (he was dressed as Indiana Jones if anyone recognizes him from Otakon 2011) It was really weird. Now I'm taking self-defense classes, haha.
I drew it to show how awkward it was.

>> No.6964493

>>6964469
You can't say "nigger" on 4chan allowed. Moot went full political correct libturd. It's n-word for you, cracker.

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>>6964473
rebuttal for you srs friend

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>>6964486
He may well have been harmless too, but I don't blame you for finding it unfomfortable. My friend has a 60 year old uncle with the mind of a small child. It freaks people out at first due to the disparity between his physical and mental age. I kid you not, but last summer I was trying my best to explain to him what Facebook was and then happened to mention 'the internet" and he looked at me and honestly asked "What's internet?". I just had to smile and think how in a way, he was lucky. He had no way of know what 4chan is.

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>>6964493
>Moot went full political correct libturd
He does have a vagina.

>> No.6964509

Sounds like you aren't from Baltimore.

>> No.6964515

>>6964457
>So does anyone have any suggestions on what I should include or exclude from my seminar?

Since you're going to draw in a variety of people, maybe it would be helpful going over some scenarios and good reactions to those situations according to different "threat levels" for lack of a better word. I dunno, it's a tough thing to teach, but someone simply looking at you and giving you a weird or bad look doesn't mean you're in danger necessarily BUT judging by the shit we know gets posted on tumblr, these people might not know what the thresholds/limits/etc. are.

>> No.6964516 [DELETED] 

>>6964452
why not just take a cab?
carrying a knife seems like a pretty bad idea

>> No.6964521

>>6964516
this.

don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

>> No.6964520

>>6964506
My only question is why did he pick ME to talk to out of the hundred-some-odd people in the hallway? I wasn't doing anything interesting, but I was doing the stereotypical anime elbows-up pose.

>> No.6964530

>>6964452
Will otakon let you carry on the show floor? I got booted from MTAC a few years back for my ccw.

>> No.6964531

>>6964521
if he has a gun anyway, you're screwed, knife or not
if he has a knife, sees you have a knife, he'll be less inclined to go after you and will probably go find someone else without a knife
if he has nothing, he's probably just going to fuck off

if he has a gun to begin with he'll go with it first
it's not going to be like GIMME YO MONEY WAIT YOU HAVE A KNIFE HANG ON I GOT A GUN
it'll be more like GIMME YO MONEY OR I BLAST YOU

>> No.6964533

>>6964530
just make sure no one sees you with it and you'll be fine
I ran around AX with a knife and no one had a clue

>> No.6964538

>>6964531
so you rather risk your life in a knife fight than run or in worst case scenario give him your wallet and cell phone?
i'm all for defending yourself in a fist fight, but when knives or weapons get pulled, shit's over

>> No.6964548

>>6964538
if you can run, run
but if you can't, you show that going for you is more trouble than it's worth
the whole point of them threatening violence is because they want to use it as a compliance tool. if they see they might get cut, stabbed etc, they'll be less likely to continue. they want weak prey.

and if you're not comfortable with a knife or even the idea of possibly stabbing someone, just give up your stuff

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>>6964520
Well at least these self defense classes will give me some good moves for cosplay Futo.

>> No.6964556

>>6964548
>they want to use it as a compliance tool
>so many implications

do as you wish, but anyone with half a brain will tell you to give up your stuff instead of risking your life for what? $500?

>> No.6964566

>>6964556
they're trying to make a quick buck, not out to get hurt themself

>> No.6964572

>>6964533
I'm carrying something with a bit more punch, actually. Hey, anyone wanna hire a /k/ommando for private security? I take cash, beer, and ammo as payment.

>> No.6964573

>>6964566
Sure thing, it's not like people get stabbed every day
You do realize some of this people have nothing to lose right?

>> No.6964589

>>6964573
and you do realize that even if you do hand over your stuff they might still decide to beat your ass or stab you?

you shouldn't be getting into the situation in the first place. if you do, run away if possible. fighting should be your last resort. same with giving up.

>> No.6964595

>>6964589
Again, do as you wish
If you are willing to not only risk your life but are also willing to take a life for $500 go ahead and carry that lovely folding knife of yours

>> No.6964597

>>6964452
>melanin-enriched gentleman
This is racism. What need is there to state their skin color? It could just as well have been white people, would you have stated that they were white then? I feel as if people only do this if the alleged culprit is colored.

>> No.6964603

>>6964595
if it was me or them in a self-defense scenario, I know which one I'm picking. I'm not the aggressor and I'm giving them the chance to disengage at any time.

>> No.6964633

Tips against robbers, burglars, street thugs:
-If you have a second wallet, fill it with coins, expired cards and a few bills to make it both realistic - and heavy. Throw it beyond the person. They are more interested in the money than your life and the short time you earn by grabbing their attention, having them turn over, and if you're really lucky, have them run after it - can save your life.
It might also be smart to keep an old cellphone to trick them, and if carrying a bag throw it at them. They're more interested in searching the bag for goods than running after you. Once they find out there are no valuables in the bag they'll probably throw it nearby and you can search the area for it after they're gone(and you've called the police).

-Find out what safe defense weapons you're allowed to carry by law. While aiming fingers for the eyes or the throat is very effective at disabling opponents, it might be best to just repel them with spray. Don't risk close combat because you don't know whether a thug carries a weapon or not. Shockers as far as I've seen are not an effective measure, at least not as tasers, but tasers aren't legal in most countries, and they aren't widely available as self defense weapons even in the US, so your luck is with spray.

-Since women can't get muscles and bulk strength as easily with strength, it might be best to look for martial arts lessons, but I personally suggest learning more about disarming than attacking an opponent. An opponent with a handgun is game over if they manage to get a chest shot, and the same goes for people who have a knife, if they manage to get in range. If they manage to maim you by cut on your leg you can say goodbye to your belongings and your blood supply. If you take care of their weapon, it makes running away much easier.

>> No.6964637

>>6964633
I had a CNN crew at my office building and they got word that someone broke into one of their cars. Stole a bunch of expensive camera equipment. They ended up just dumping all the equipment in an alley because there was no cash in any of the bags the equipment was in.

>> No.6964671

>>6964633
Last paragraph, replace second "strength" with "men". Sorry for big strong men suddenly hindering my train of thought.

(As for the integrity of the information, it's made up of information friends in unsafe cities gave me, tips I picked up in newspapers years ago, and things I learned while trying to pick a kind of martial art. I hope they're better than what you can come up with under heavy stress and panic, unless you're so amazing at improvising that you can get away without safety measures.)


I've only been to local conventions that last 10 hours and don't have your usual hotel drug-alcohol-sex stories, as well as long distance from con to hotel to hometown so I'm limited to the things that happen within the con grounds and buildings.

I'd recommend staying near staff members or guards(if there are any, we have them) at all times. Avoid crowded areas to prevent potential thieves from pickpocketing you while you can't notice them, as well as empty areas. Your solitude in a quiet corner is a thug's chance to get quick cash. Put a lock on your bag. I prefer codes to keys as codes are more convenient and are still hard to crack, and buy you enough time to search for the one who stole it. Here the staff hosts an area in which carefully picked volunteers guard the bags of cosplayers. If you're cosplaying I'm sure you wouldn't like to put your bag next to you when you're posing for a shot because that portion of a second is enough for somebody to pick your bag and run away while blending into the crowd.

>>6964637
That's really sad, but expected. If they spent any more time searching that car they might had been spotted by policemen and arrested. If I was unsure about the value of equipment I wouldn't spend as much time carrying it - though I know that camera equipment goes for hundreds of dollars, if not thousands, for TV crews.

>> No.6964674

>>6964597

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.


Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent.
Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks. Forty-five percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crimes against whites than vice versa.

Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.
Hispanics are 19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

>> No.6964701

>>6964674
People of color are much more likely to be victims of poverty than white people. It's a problem of class, not race - colored people do not commit crimes because they are colored, they do it because they're forced to due to poverty. It's a problem of structural imbalance between whites and everyone else.

>> No.6964711

>>6964701
The fact still remains that melanin enriched gentlemen still cause more crime than any other demographic in America. You have to be a fucking retard not to be wary around MEGs. I dare you to go to the inner city in the middle of night so you can get culturally enriched.

>> No.6964713

>>6964671
Yeah, must have been junkies or some shit with no clue how to actually dispose of any of the gear to make money. Weird thing is that the area this happened in is one of the better parts of the city. It was broad daylight too.

>> No.6964715

What wonderful thinly-veiled racism.

Good luck avoiding "melanin enriched" people in Baltimore. Also, stop being such a pussy, no one hurt you. I walk around in Baltimore at night all the goddamn time, usually with only one other person, and I'm a tiny white girl. Pepper spray is all you should ever need.

>> No.6964724

>>6964711
The overwhelming majority of colored people do not commit crimes. It's a small minority that is a little bigger than whites, but we solve this by giving them jobs, welcoming them into our society and stop discriminating.

>> No.6964734

>>6964715
ive never had any shit like that in B-more either, just homeless people begging for whatever

>> No.6964743

>>6964734
Seriously. The worst you get is panhandling or someone just being annoying, generally.

>> No.6964756

Just carry swords. Weeaboo with sword just screams crazy. No one wants to mess with crazy, especially not crazy + sword.

>> No.6964766

>>6964724

Based on current rates of first incarceration, an estimated 32% of black males will enter State or Federal prison during their lifetime, compared to 17% of Hispanic males and 5.9% of white males.

At midyear 2007 there were 4,618 black male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 black males in the United States, compared to 1,747 Hispanic male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 Hispanic males and 773 white male sentenced prisoners per 100,000 white males.


In 2005, Homicide offending rates for blacks were more than 7 times higher than the rates for whites

The US Dept. of Justice Website also reports that in England and Wales, blacks are 2% of the population, but 11% of inmates:

THE FACTS: Blacks, who represent just 12.5% of the U.S. population, account for a disproportionate share of violent crime. Still, the fact remains that whites commit more such crimes -- 54% vs. 45% for blacks, (even though blacks are 12.5% of the population) according to FBI arrest statistics. The numbers also vary widely depending on the crime, with blacks responsible for more murders and robberies (55% and 61% of these crimes, respectively) and whites committing more rapes and aggravated assaults (56% and 60%).

The bottom line: While a white person is far more likely to be victimized by a black than the other way around (21% vs. 7%), the chances are three times as great that a white person will be victimized by another white than by a black.

Black criminals commit more crimes against white victims (nearly 1.1 million in 1992) than they do against blacks (just under 1 million).


'Though blacks, 24 percent of New York Citys population, committed 68.5 percent of all murders, rapes, robberies, and assaults in the city last year, according to victims and witnesses, they were only 55 percent of all stop-and-frisks.

>> No.6964767

>>6964715
I've been to Otakon 8 years and have never had a problem either. Being 5'5" and Asian doesn't really make me much of a "threat" and I've walked around by myself quite a distance and still was fine (roommates were assholes and didn't want to use the buddy system so I walked from the con to the Mt. Vernon Hotel at 1am). Basic city smarts man, that's all it really takes. All I've ever dealt with were panhandlers and drunken sports fans, not so bad in the grand scheme of things.

Inner Harbor especially always has a ton of cops around, I noticed so as long as people don't stray super far from the area, I don't think there's much need for concern.

>> No.6964781

>>6964766
And what do you propose as a solution to this? I want to live in a diverse society based on tolerance, equality and respect, not an isolated one based on hatred and racism. Instead of segregating and discriminating people of color we must integrate them and make them feel like they're a part of society. If we could do this, I'm sure the crime ratio would become equal.

>> No.6964788

>>6964781
the hard part is that for every person who wants to integrate there's another content in being separate or staying where they are if it means they don't have to try

>> No.6964793

>>6964767
The worst I've ever had in Baltimore was being insulted by a drunken stranger (white) from across the street. Which happens pretty much anywhere that bars are plentiful. Happened to me in Elicott, and that area is nice as fuck.

Normally, it's just people complimenting me, asking for money, or asking for my number. Or, you know, leaving me alone entirely.

The best ever was when I was stopped, and a guy freestyle rapped about myself and my boyfriend right there on the spot. It was really funny. My boyfriend gave the guy ten dollars afterward.

>> No.6964814

>>6964793
worst I had was when nigglets decided to use drainage water to clean my windshield and my friend gave them a quarter
shit was so dirty

>> No.6964817

>>6964520

Because you didn't look like someone who would punch him in the face.

Herpderps can smell politeness and kindness a mile away--it doesn't smell of their own rank BO. They must get as close to it as possible, while shrieking at incredible volumes, to witness it.

Seriously I am jealous of big-ass scary motherfuckers because the goddamn fucktards don't shove themselves at them.

>> No.6964852

>>6964781
Are you still in school or something? Have you ever lived out in the real world? People do not want to integrate. They form their own little ethnic communities because they feel safer among their own people. When they do live with people who are not their kind, they don't trust them and remain isolated.

Do you want to know why Japan has such a low crime rate? It's because it's a homogenized country that has very few minority groups. The minority groups that do live there are the ones that cause crimes. Do you want to know what will happen to Japan if it tries to diversify itself and admit a ton of blacks and hispanics into its population? It's going to turn into a third world shithole.

>> No.6964880

>>6964852
>When they do live with people who are not their kind, they don't trust them and remain isolated.
You're the one perpetuating that m8
Also, you're wrong. I have absolutely no problem making friends outside of my race.

>> No.6964892

>>6964781
>I want to live in a diverse society based
Why? Why is it always the whites who carve for this 'diversity'? You don't see the Chinese wanting laowai piggus, or the Japanese ever accepting any gaijin in their country, no matter how fucking long they live there. And they care exactly fuck all about the gaijin that complains. And don't even get me started on any African country ever.

>on tolerance,
Note that Japan in particular is a very tolerant country. Conservative, yes. But they tolerate bullshit to some extent. Just because they don't bend down to the white man's rulers (which aggravates whites greatly) doesn't mean they're Nazis, no?

"Tolerance" in general is a slippery slope anyway. See below.

>equality
There's no such country and it will never exist. Especially not in a democracy, which sounds ironic, yes, but is sadly true.

>and respect,
Respect should be earned individually. You shouldn't be entitled to any more respect than citizens respecting the laws of the country -- and any country that accepts "hate speech" as a genuine thing is inevitably a country that doesn't respect basic human rights.

>not an isolated one based on hatred and racism.
USA, Canada, UK, South Africa... all these countries fit your description (some are more about hatred, some more about racism). Note that all of these countries are ruled by the so-called "liberal" leftists.

TL;DR
You will never get what you want if you trust / identify with any political movement ever & if you're unable to get out of the "US VS THEM" mentality & believe some retarded slogans or some retarded old fuck who told you how the world should be run, because (s)he says so, in school / media.

>> No.6964891

>>6964852
People just need to get over their fears. I, for example, have several colored friends and they're the most wonderful people I've ever met. Remember: they're human just like you and I, a different skin tone doesn't change that.

>> No.6964899

>>6964548
please describe the many scenarios where-in you can't run? also, why do they think you're weak prey, did you wear your beta cologne out again? also, i love the implication that somebody is 'comfortable' with being stabbed. as fucking if. you only get stabbed when there is no other option. this isn't rapiers at dawn, you neckbeard.

i am also of the opinion that morons who need a concealed weapon to feel safe are insecure babies. if you can't go to a god damned con barehanded, what good is your stupid security blanket going to do? you're already a coward at heart.

>> No.6964900

>>6964899
i can't run cuz i'm fat

doesn't matter how much i concentrate my love for rainbow dash, i just can't fly

>> No.6964903

>>6964892
never have I read a more offensive post on /cgl/

>>>/r9k/ >>>/pol/ >>>/out/ you misogynistic sad little virgin

>> No.6964901

>>6964880
while you don't and a lot of others don't there's a lot of people who stay only inside their group. much like people are pushing stereotypes and such, you're trying to push "everyone just wants a chance!" when not everyone actually does.

>> No.6964904

>>6964880
You're one person using anecdotal evidence. Harvard University's Richart Putnam did a study on community diversity and concluded that the more diverse the community is, the greater the loss of trust is in that community. Even people who are of the same ethnic group in a diverse community trust each other less.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/?page=full

Do us a favor and get out of you liberal la la land. Diversity does not work and is just plain bullshit.

>> No.6964911

>>6964904
Diversity works if everyone gets into the same liberal la la land, not out. Would be nice if more people thought that way, but sadly they don't, hence the world continues to do screwed up things.

>> No.6964912

>>6964900
ok, i concede. i hope is when you do get your cutie mark it's not a gravity knife or S.O.B. holster.

>> No.6964913

Why is this thread still up? This is a COSPLAY board, you are supposed to talk about COSPLAY, you dumb goyim.

>> No.6964914

>>6964899
If Tyrone and his homeboys rob you and don't leave after you give them your iphone and wallet, will you wish you had your CCW on your person before they start to culturally enrich you?

>> No.6964915

>>6964914
tell me more of your erotic fantasies...

>> No.6964918

>>6964899
comfortable using and handling a knife. it'd be like if you had a car but not very good at driving it. in that case, you might want to take the bus. with a knife if you're likely to fumble it through mishandling, inexperience, or otherwise, then just don't even try to use one to defend yourself. the same with brandishing it but not actually being willing to use it. if you're not willing to follow through with your bluff then don't even bring it out.

"weak prey" is where someone is physically smaller or otherwise looks like they cannot fight or defend themself. if you're out to try to mug someone would you go after some 6'5" guy who looks like a jock or someone much smaller and much more frail? look at nature. the porcupine shows off his spines and the predator says fuck this i'm out of here. poisonous frogs and predators likewise avoid them.

>> No.6964919

>>6964892
The future is a global society free from national borders. Each person should have the freedom to move wherever they want on this planet - freedom of movement. If we look further ahead, all races will have mixed into one and there will be no more racism. It's what we're progressing towards and I'm happy that we do, it sounds a lot better than regressing to how it was during the 30s and 40s.

>> No.6964925

It's pretty much understood that if you go to Otakon, never walk farther than a 4 block radius from the convention center. You're taking a stroll down one of the most dangerous cities in America.

>> No.6964924

>>6964919
You fucking disgust me

>> No.6964928

>>6964919
The future is a barren post-apocalyptic wasteland devoid of salsa music.

>> No.6964931

>>6964918
actually, that's a pretty storybook definition of weak prey. bullies and predators have keenly developed instincts, just look at nature. hawks can see ultraviolet, great cats eat the sickly within the herd, mongoose are immune to poisons, etc. bullies can always find the one kid in the room who won't make eye contact, always makes eye contact or looks out of place. your insecurity is a bigger vulnerability than your physical stature. plus i bet you suck at poker too.

>> No.6964930

>>6964919
The future is going to take a really long time before it eliminates all classes and racial differences and creates a utopia. That's like human transcendence level stuff. We're probably going to be dealing with cyberpunk looking stuff at this rate where you've got people with cybernetics and the very poor without.

>> No.6964932

>>6964918
>"weak prey" is where someone is physically smaller
Someone that says something this stupid is bound to be an imbecile
No wonder you have to carry 3 weapons to feel safe

>> No.6964937

>>6964919
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant by parroting what you were told / heard / read. How do you even imagine that ever happening? History keeps repeating over and over and over and over again. There's technological progress but the human nature stay the same.

>> No.6964940

>>6964932
and you're kidding yourself if you don't think a criminal element is more likely to go after someone they think they can deal with more easily when given the choice.

>> No.6964945

>>6964931
you're kind of making a point for me when you mention how bullies and predators can find weaker targets.

>> No.6964952

>>6964940
and you're kidding yourself if you think most 6'5" jocks will try to wrassle their way out of a mugging. why do you assume criminals are utterly incompetent? wouldn't utterly incompetent criminals just be the victims of other criminals or immediately caught and sent to jail?

>> No.6964955

>>6964940
That's a fact, but what I quoted has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever read on this site
It's funny that you call yourself a "/k/ommando" and yet say stupid shit like that
You don't deserve a moist nugget.

>> No.6964975

>>6964952
they probably aren't going to wrestle their way out of things but they're definitely more likely to be able to punch you in the face better than other body shapes and types can. probably also more likely to fight back in the first place if overwhelming force isn't displayed.

>>6964955
the point still stands. would a military attack a target if they didn't have the confidence that they would win? you want to be the hard target that they have to figure out how to defeat or if they don't think they can, they attack somewhere else

>> No.6964996

ok, so to make this thread even vaguely cosplay relevant i'll try to post some of my own advice not this /k/ommando nonsense.

i lived in a ghetto for five years and learned more than i ever wanted to about just how ugly america is. i've been robbed twice at gunpoint, been stabbed trying to stop my ex from having her purse stolen and watched or heard about countless other horrible things. so this advice for cosplayers.

1) get totally comfortable with the notion that you're going to attract a lot of mixed attention. the further you get from a con, the weirder the looks. you're dressed up and that will attract attention. if you act like the attention makes you uncomfortable, then the attention may try to get things out of you. i had a friend who would always give a twenty to any bum who asked him for money out of guilt and anxiety. for some reason, the bums would always ask him for money when we walked in a crowd. this shit shows.

2) blacks aren't the enemy, druggies and drunks are, regardless of color. they are unpredictable, irrational and want whatever they want right as soon as they want it. i once had a crackhead take a swing at me with a shovel just because. if you are dressed like a fairy princess, this is gonna happen even more, as they will initially be amused and attracted to you then randomly become irrational and angry. also, they're far less afraid of a crowd than you'd hope, so the buddy system or walking in a group will only get you so far.

3) don't travel at night. if you have to, use a cab. if you can't afford that, stay on the main roads and well lit areas. i know this is inconvenient, but do what you can while still having fun.

4) don't get drunk or high. i know, huge downer. all my friends who had seriously bad experiences with muggers, hoodlums or other drunks/tweakers, they were all drunk or high at the time. impaired judgement does not make you better at dealing with strangers, even though you often think it does.

>> No.6965000

>>6964975
>would a military attack a target if they didn't have the confidence that they would win?
Vietnam.

Try to say something even more retarded that your last couple posts, I double dare you

>> No.6965009

>>6965000
vietnam was a whole bunch of shit including france and trying to battle communism. also LBJ.

the situation at hand is more akin to a squad of ambushers hiding in wait. if they see another squad walk through the kill zone, they take it out. large company with armor in it? they'll let it pass and probably call in air or tell command about it so they can figure something out.

>> No.6965010

>>6964996
5) if you get robbed or hassled, whatever. muggers want your wallet and phone? just give it to them. strangers calling you weird names, following you? keep walking, go somewhere public/crowded or calmly call the police. don't overthink this stuff. you can always cancel your cards later. if you have a friend with a good costume for it, hide and mute one cellphone for later use. but really, this isn't that common.

6) feel like a ninja? wanna be a hero? cool, go for it. i did and got stabbed. and i'm damn proud of it. i'm also an idiot who thinks he's a god-mode viking, so your results may vary. just remember that americans have a hero complex, that's why we keep losing firefighters, policemen and soldiers. is it bad? i dunno, but it definitely has its costs.

7) this is the ugly one but it's also true. poor people don't like you because you're down to earth. minorities don't like you because you're liberal. don't EVER try to placate someone by emulating them, speaking their language, etc. this is just patronizing and ignorant. also, they're irrational, uneducated and probably drunk. a gang of black ghetto residents came out of the projects one night and beat a bunch of drunks half to death just because fuck whitey. these people may not have wonderful lives and some of them are very angry about it. if a dude has a bat, he's probably gonna use it. turn 360 degrees and walk away.

and finally, most people get really nervous before a con or before going to unfamiliar territory (like baltimore), it's nice to try and prepare yourself for the worst but really you should prepare yourself for the best. because whatever you're prepared for is far more likely to happen!

peace and be safe, seagulls.

>> No.6965019

>>6965009
gtb2mom'sbasement it's not even funny anymore

>> No.6965025

>>6965019
i guess i wasn't retarded enough for your tastes.

i'm sorry to disappoint.

>> No.6965027

>>6965009
god, i want so hard not to be annoyed by you.

buuuuut, you really are the most stereotypical shit-tier /k/ommando moron. as soon as anyone gives you static you go all pseudo-military armchair warrior and start spewing military lingo.

walking around baltimore with or without a knife in your pocket is not analogous to a squad preparing to ambush another squad and/or an armored company.

anyways, i'm outta this thread before i rage any harder.

>> No.6965037

>>6964996
>>6965010
OP here. Thanks for the advice, man. It's really helpful. Thread got turned to shit with all this /pol/ shit, though.

>> No.6965047

>>6965027
i only brought up the military bits because he mentioned /k/. the whole point i've been arguing is that you want to make yourself look like more trouble than you're worth.

>> No.6965064

>>6965047
right, so you should strap knives to your hands to make yourself look POINTY and DANGEROUS.

also, wear a loud SIREN to deter potential PREDATORS. BLACKS hear a siren and yell 'FIVE-OH' and FLEE INTO THE PROJECTS!!

ALSO GET ONE OF THOSE ALIENS MOVIES MOTION SENSORS, SO YOU CAN SENSE THE RACIALLY MOTIVATED MUGGER SWARM BUT OH GOD IT'S NOT IN THE STREETS ITS COMING FROM THE SEWERS WHERE ARE THE FLAMETHROWERS ASDFSD WE'RE ALL DEAD EXCEPT RIPLEY BUT SHE'S HAVING AN ALIEN BABY

>> No.6965108
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6965108

I just came back from my martial art lessons. What happened to this thread? Oh well, here's some self defense techniques I learned in case anyone is interested.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY9kv_fclrE

>> No.6965130

>>6965108
people objected to even the idea of defending yourself

>> No.6965137

>>6965130
The hand-grabbing techniques reminded me of one weeb story I read where a guy dragged a girl around for the whole day. It would have helped her, I guess.

>> No.6965160

>>6965137
Do you have a link to that story? I'm curious.

>> No.6965175

>>6965137
Speaking of being dragged around, I was talking to a photographer friend who wanted to do a quick shoot with a cosplayer he saw who was currently shooting with another photographer. Moves on, ends up coming back like 30 minutes later. They're still there. Rolls right on up to the cosplayer, asks if she would like to shoot, and she responds with a very "thank you so much" sounding Yes.

>> No.6965176

>>6965160
I can try to find it. I don't quite remember where I read it. Apologies in advance if I can't. Maybe the person who told the story is still on this board.

>> No.6965240

Most who would consider doing do are probably aware, but just in case someone's not:

Maryland is as fond of CCW as Texas is of abortion, and, unless Woollard is resolved by SCOTUS in favor of "shall issue," that's not likely to change any time soon, especially considering the (likely) next AG is even more anti-gun than the current one.

So, to any out-of-towners planning to tool up while at the con - leave 'em at home, kids.

>> No.6965551

This is a troll thread right? The OP has to be making shit up just to rile people up.

>> No.6965561

>>6964924
go fuck off, you racist republican piece of shit.

>> No.6965634
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6965634

>>6965561
Like it's better to be an emasculated, race-mixing goy liberal?

>> No.6966177

Carry a decoy wallet to use in case of a mugging. Fill it with those fake credit cards you get in the mail and only pack a few dollars.

>> No.6966185

>>6966177
that's not going to help black people. just give them a few dollars to help them out. it will improve their chances of embettering their lives.

>> No.6966204

>>6966185
as in they'll be able to up their robbery game with some new sneakers. sneakers they probably just stole from you.

>> No.6966444

Ah, /pol/ and /k/ invading together.

Someone on the tumbles made a safety post that's less confrontational and more getting-back-safe tips, I think they live there or something. I actually didn't know about the Charm City Circulator, so it's a bit useful.

robbiebaldwin. tumblr. com/post/55039471820/annual-otakon-safety-post-and-tips

Also, learn martial arts if you want, don't bring weapons if you're going to be on the con floor. Staffed at some smaller conventions and I'd wager Otakon security has the same policy we had, which was "kick them out if they have knife or gun".

>> No.6966654

>>6964852

Sorry, I had to reply to this comment. I used to live in a small city that was pretty diverse for Japan standards. I believe about 10 to 15% percent of the population were non Japanese, mostly Hispanic. A few weeks after arriving in Japan, I was trying to find this place. I looked everywhere for it, but decided to check one more street before going home, because it was getting dark. This car stops and a man says something to me. At first, I thought he was asking if I needed to go somewhere and I replied that I was okay. He then tried to get me into his car. I told him no thank you and started to walk away. Now, this street was very small. The man parked his car and headed towards me. He started asking me a lot of questions about who I was and how he was interested in black girls. Long story short, he forced me against a wall and started groping me. I didn't know what to do, because I was new to the country and if I screamed I didn't know who side of the story the police would accept. I eventually was able to push him away and escape to a more open area. The man is Japanese. I am black. So much for the minorities causing the crimes right? I foolishly thought, because I was black, I would not be the target for that sort of thing.

On a much lighter note. I have been to Otakon for 10 years. Nothing has happened me so far. Can't wait for this year!

>> No.6966697

>>6966654
It's okay, he's a minority too! Cultural enrichment!

I have to agree in that even in the sketchy parts of my city I've never had anything happen even at night.

>> No.6966727

I highly recommend staying out of area surrounding Lexington Market. It's a drug den.

The real question is that are you scared of black people? There are a lot of black people that go to Anime Cons.

>> No.6966735

>>6966727
Everyone's scared of black people. Even other black people.

>> No.6966743

>>6966735
I'm not. Most men probably aren't. Only manginas (white liberals, Asians) and chicks are.

It just goes to show that the liberal shits are the real racist, since they don't even view black folk as human.

>> No.6966832

>>6965010
>turn 360 degrees and walk away.
That's not how turning around works, anon.

>>6966735
I'm only wary of thugs in bad neighborhoods.

>>6966743
This is sadly true. Comments like >>6964701
show liberals true colors. Makes me feel like I'm a little puppy and less than a person. Treat me as your equal, and judge me by my own actions.

>> No.6966834

>>6966832
>>turn 360 degrees and walk away.
>That's not how turning around works, anon.
you're so new

>> No.6966836

>>6966743
I don't know what liberals you're talking to. I'm willing to bet they aren't actually liberals.

Anyway, back to /pol/ with you.

>> No.6966854

It's like you think those particular violent creepers are violent creepers simply because they are black.
I hope one day everyone decides most pedophiles are white males because "white men are all pedophiles, it's a white thing".
Please just go away with yourself, OP.

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6966861

I fucking hate black people and how they claim about they're the victims of society.

>MUH PRIVILEGE HURR

If anything, they're the SCUM of society. Always robbing shit from rich whites when rich white folks are being forced to pay their bills for them. If anything, they should be grateful that whites have more money. Otherwise they would be living on the street rather than having a free house and food without a job, thanks to white tax payers.

Picture related is something one of the niggers on my Facebook posted about 10 minutes ago. Fucking bullshit.

>> No.6966864

>>6966861
If you hate that person so much, why are you even friends with them?

>> No.6966880

>>6966861
I like how you got mad over everything but the picture because you can't actually argue with it.

>> No.6966890

>>6966654
This same exact thing happened to my mother back in the 80s. She was teaching at an English school in Chiba a Japanese man stalked her into an alley.

>> No.6966895

>>6966880
I'm sure if someone was compelled to do it they could do something similar involving black people angry about Treyvon Martin and if "Zimmerman walks, we riot!"

>> No.6966898

>>6966880
um. Sorry. I am not trying to fight with you. It was a common sense question. If people post things that I don't like, I unfriend them. Simple as that.

>> No.6966920

>>6966834
Not new, just haven't heard that maymay in a long time. Thought anon was being serious. My mistake.

>>6966854
Most pedophiles are white males. Overwhelmingly so. The stereotype of a white, mustached mid 40s guy with a van exists for a reason.

>>6966898
>All my friends must think exactly as I do without exception. I like pretending my world is an echo chamber.
The whole world isn't tumblr. Not everyone will agree with you on everything. Even your "friends".

>> No.6966922

>>6966895
Yes, and then black people wouldn't be able to argue with it but they'd still get mad.
People are just hypocritical fucks, shitty behavior spans across all races no matter what "muh oppression" and "muh pure aryan lands" faggots spew.

>> No.6966928

>>6966920
Okay. I understand. They are your "friends." I do admit to having 1-2 very liberal friends myself too, but not as facebook friends. I can only tolerate them at certain times.

>> No.6966934

>>6964457
>>6964452
just because black people look at you in cosplay doesn't mean they will jump you. they just find people in cosplay weird....or -are- congoers themselves/know people who go to cons. I nerly fot a drug dealer I knew from elementary school to go to the con, so meh.

>> No.6966937

>>6964493
took long enough to cleanse out the /b/ shit

>> No.6966940

>>6964462
have fun saying that at an anime con where 10-30% of the people there are black and many live in the area, and the city is majority black.

-derp-

>> No.6966941

>>6964472
not too far, unless you're fucked up

>> No.6966948

>>6964506
Is your friend Kim?

>> No.6966952

>>6964531
some motherfuckers tried robbing me and claimed they had a gun. They pulled the 'pokin gout of your shirt' thing. I smiled/snickere, was 'no thank you' and ran away while facing them.

LOL, I was wearing sandals and a Hetalia shirt then.

>> No.6966957

>>6964556
Im sorry, but I am a real nigga (ok not really; you get the point), some people tried that shit on me and I saw their 'gun' was fake or they wouldnt be willing to kiill me while looking into my eyes.

>>6964633
If you're going into the ghetto and are noticeably robbable, put most of your money into your socks so you dont get ost all your shit as well

>> No.6966961

>>6964674
that doesnt mean the race matters in the OP's stories of who was threatening them or w/e. hell, the statment of slavs doesnt mtter either

>> No.6966963

>>6964711
I've done that in cosplay and i haven't been "enriched" yet.

>> No.6966965

>>6964756
i know someone who pulled that shit IRL. also, see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRMNwq3ehFc

>> No.6966968

>>6964892
>Why? Why is it always the whites who carve for this 'diversity'

You know Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, India, etc all brag about this right? Also "Chinese" isn't a single ethnicity. Even the Han are multiple different ethnicities.

>> No.6966973

>>6964597

Except the vast majority of crimes committed by any one race are committed towards themselves. black on black crime far outstrips black-on-anyone-else because the majority of them happen in their own neighborhoods, well away from public areas even if they are unsafe at night. You're more likely to be murdered by someone you know

>> No.6966977

>>6964899
last time I was mugged, I had on sandals. Not exactly running shoes.

>> No.6966978

>>6964724

>1992

Except violent crime has significantly declined each year since the 90's because of get tough policies such as Giuliani's Broken Windows policies of the 90s in NYC. Quoting statistics from the 90s is completely arranging numbers to try to make your point seem valid....in 2013. Lol, fuck off with your stormfront bullshit

>> No.6966986

>>6964852

Then move back to your filthy inbred country. This is America, and we're #1 because we're a melting pot.

>>6964892

Spoken like a political scientist that has history all figured out lol

>> No.6966988

>>6965010
>minorities don't like you because you're liberal.

More like 'hypocritical liberal' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u52Oz-54VYw

Black nationalists wrote about hypocritical white liberals a lot. Some moderated when they say it is not neessarily "whitey's" fault.

>don't EVER try to placate someone by emulating them, speaking their language, etc. this is just patronizing and ignorant.

That's something people naturally do though. It only comes out badly when you're BLATANTLY trying to emulate as such and fuck up.

>also, they're irrational, uneducated and probably drunk.

LOL. niggas be like :p

>> No.6966989

>>6965019
>>6965027
it's an analogy, you fucking faggot

>> No.6966990

>>6964901

There are more people that do, hence the 1963 civil rights act

>> No.6967001

>>6966861
Get out of my country, the black man was here before you were.

>> No.6967002

I've been to Otakon five times, it's not too bad if you use your fucking brains. That said, if you wanna give yourself more assurances that you'll be safe...

Wanna pretty much assure yourself some relative safety? Stay at the Hilton, Hyatt or Sheraton, as they have skywalk connections to the Convention Center. Secondarily, the Days Inn is pretty much right across the street, the Marriot Inner Harbor is across the street from the Hilton and the Renaissance Baltimore Harborplace Hotel is a block and a half east along Pratt St.

Yes, the Hyatt, Hilton and Sheraton are fairly expensive, but with multiples in a room, PAID IN ADVANCE, it's affordable and much safer than walking along the streets.

If you don't wanna order expensive ass room service at hotels that offer it, during the day you can eat at the Harborplace Mall, which is a walk along the skywalk to the east of the Convention Center. If you're up later and want food, get in your car and drive somewhere out of the area to eat. Look up information on the internet for 'safe places' to eat in Baltimore.

>> No.6967003

>>6966920
so glad to be a black 20-something pedophile who looks younfer than he is :D

>> No.6967004

>>6964996
>>6965010

Best advice in the entire thread

>> No.6967006

>>6967004
more like only advice in the entire thread

>> No.6967008

>>6966978
Giuiani's Broken Windows policies were bullshit and did not limit crime. Crime waa ALREADY going down and he jumped upon it.

>> No.6967009

>>6966990
integreation was a shit idea for black people in many way. it desroyed our neighborhoods, busnesses, etc. Also integration fucked over our school systems

>> No.6967015

>>6967008

Regardless if it was the correct policy to enact or not, NYC did see a modest difference in their violent crimes vs. the rest of the country.

Taken to extremes, we start to approach the limits of civil liberties through other policies like stop and frisk

>> No.6967018

>>6967009

That's just like, your opinion man. Did you go to school before the 1960s, or are you just repeating blindly the shit your parents told you? Think for yourself.

>> No.6967027

Does anyone know how far the bus stop is from the convention center, or is it right outside?

>> No.6967036

>>6967018
>>>
> Masa D. Luffy !F9AXKingDI 07/11/13(Thu)16:50 No.6966990Replies: >>6967009
>>>6964901
huh there are studies on how the poorer black people got fucked over worse post=integration and the relatively worse quality of historically black colleges, etc. I have books upstairs on that subject

>> No.6967043

>>6967018

DUDE there are studies on how the poorer black people got fucked over worse post=integration and the relatively worse quality of historically black colleges, etc. I have books upstairs on that subject

>> No.6967061

>>6967043
i have a book on your mom

>> No.6967064

Carrying a knife for self-defense is a really bad idea. Most knife fights end up with both participants getting stabbed and slashed.

>> No.6967164

oh for the love of cheese. Don't pull a knife or a gun on a Baltimore crook. Unless you are as bad ass as said crook you are just going to end up with a case of the deads. Stay close to the convention center, don't walk around at night, call a cab if needed, stay in well populated, well lit areas. If asked for something give it up and run in the opposite direction.

>> No.6967693

>>6967064
for reals, yo. pepper spray has a longer reach and brings them down faster.

>>6967164
>run in the opposite direction
Don't forget to weave in a serpentine manner as you run away so you won't get shot in the back.

>> No.6967698

>>6967064
>approach lolita at a con
>"Hey babe, cute dress. Wunna make out? ha ha."
>she pulls out a switch blade
>"....Oh shit."

>> No.6967703

If they ask for money and you're carrying a bag/purse THROW THE BAG
throw it either past them or to their side and bolt in the other direction. Do not scream unless pursued, in which case, make shit tons of noise

>> No.6967705

>>6967698
how rude of her. she could just say no.

>> No.6967872

>>6966185
>>6966204
Har har.

>> No.6968633

>>6966836
'Liberals' like you. Anyone who identifies as such on 4chan. You're fucking worthless racist trash. The plantation masters who need their slaves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtuQlByCRp0

>b-but h-he cannot represent b-black people!! h-h-he's an e-exstremist!

Get bent, libtard. 50$ says you can't even make it past the first five 5 minutes, because you're a prejudiced pile of shit.

>> No.6968641

>>6968633

Tumblr's that way, nigger.

>> No.6968642

>>6966880
It's bullshit. The murder of Trayvon Martin is one of the US's biggest news stories right now. And guess what? He's black.

>> No.6968646

>>6968641
Tumblr == libertards. You probably own one yourself.

Nice try, dumbfuck.

>> No.6968647

>>6966861
It's really funny that blacks in the underclasses actually think they're too dumb to rule over themselves. Or blacks in Africa. They admit they can't exist without their white libertard slavemasters.

>> No.6968784

>>6968661
If only there was some Chilean knight in shining armor who'd protect me from all the Alpha males hitting on me.

>> No.6968804

>California conventions
>no CC allowed
>every hood rat in the area knows that there's a big convention going on, full of tourists and generally defenseless people
And this is why I stay the fuck away from the Golden State.

>> No.6968929

>>6968869
Yeah, for some reason oppressing women is fine when Muslims or Asians do it.

>> No.6968957

>>6968929
it's not fine when anyone does it you piece of shit