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6683100 No.6683100 [Reply] [Original]

So are there any good black cosplays?

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>> No.6683473

>>6683172

i'm stupid

look at how skinny that dude's legs are, wtf

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>> No.6685967

>>6685905
oh my god that ciel is so adorable!

>> No.6688538

bump

>> No.6688556

>>6685909
This girl is such a cutie pie!

>> No.6688560

>>6685944
(haha Awesome Mr. T)

Off topic: that megaman really bugs me! I went to both MAGfest and Katsucon, and i saw her on multiple occassions. Why is she so damn girly? It bothers me, that if you're going to be megaman, try to act a bit more boyish. Her pose, not binding properly (or at all?) I don't get it. ugh.

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>>6685909
She definitely has got DEM LEGS for Sailor Venus, but I really wanna fix those gloves and that sad looking bow for her. Then she'd be just about perfect.

>you will never have DEM LEGS perfect for a sailor scout

>> No.6688577

>>6688565
LOL Just like when people do CLAMP Tsubasa characters. You can only wear stilts and be accurate. None the less, aside from the not too great construction of costume, she is a cute Venus.

>> No.6688668

I don't understand how white people take offence to other white people blackfacing in order to cosplay a black character.

If a black person did whiteface then it shouldn't matter either. Achieve the look of the character at all costs.

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>>6688668
>If a black person did whiteface then it shouldn't matter either.

This is kind of the way I look at it. I know cosplayers doing "blackface" aren't trying to insult me; they're just trying to do the character justice. If I were to make myself look lighter for the sake of a cosplay, no one would be upset, or they would turn it around and make it the ~White Man's fault for making me feel oppressed, or something equally ridiculous.
These people also seem to be rather confused about what blackface really is. If they spent the five seconds to look it up, they'd see that using darker makeup for a costume is not even close to actual blackface.

>> No.6688695

>>6688668
I honestly am sick of people saying blackfacing and brownfacing when paler people use make up and sprays to tan for a costume.

It's not fucking blackfacing. It has nothing to do with trying to be black or making fun of/degrading/mocking the race. Sheesh.

>> No.6688698

>>6688682
Thank you. Seriously. I wonder if half the people calling 'blackface' actually know what it means.

>> No.6688705

>>6688668
>>6688682
I think people take offence in blackfacing if the blackfacers try to make an statement against racism.
Back in the days, white people blackfaced and pretended to be "the stupid black man", so it's not okay to do this today.

>> No.6688709

>>6688705

Actually, waaay back in the day people blackfaced because they had a high appreciation for black music.

Black and White minstrels mean anything to you? White people would (in secret, away from other whites) black themselves up so they could be a part of these music groups.

Learn your history.

>> No.6688714

>>6688709
I'm not that much into the scene, so I just rephrase what I heard.
Your lesson is quite interesting, but the negative connotation isn't clear with it.

>> No.6688713

>>6688705
lol it's 2013.
Makeup =/= blackfacing today
especially if you make up or tan your whole body, for a costume. Silly anon.

I cosplayed Malik from YGO back in 2006, and i would of felt pretty stupid if i didn't tan just a bit.

>> No.6688717

>>6688713
Yes, I know the difference, and I fully support correct cosplays.

>> No.6688731

>>6688714

There wasn't really a negative connotation with blackfacing among blacks - only whites.

Even in the early 60s it was shameful to like 'nigger music'. So you can imagine in the late 1800s-1940s it was definitely frowned upon for a white person to enjoy black music.

Black and white Minstrels were groups who sung and played traditional 'black music', this music was actually good and a lot of white people at the time enjoyed it, but black people didn't want whites around their music and white people didn't want to admit to liking it.

They blacked themselves up so from a distance they looked like black people to other whites, of course the blacks new they weren't black - but they understood that the white people weren't racist if they blacked themselves up because it was a risky and shameful thing to do among whites therefore they were accepted too.

So actually, black facing was very much a mark of respect for black people. Occasionally you might have had the odd racist blacking themselves up to be a gollywog character but those were isolated incidents.

Somehow white, middle-class guilt has led us in the 21st century to think of blackfacing as racist. Because apparently it's less racist to pretend everyone is the same than to embrace our differences.

>> No.6688734

>>6688731
hey, cool. I actually didnt know this. I want to screen cap this post and show it to all the butt hurt people on tumblr who constantly complain about 'blackface' and cosplay. :)

>> No.6688736

>>6688731
Can you give me a source to that?

>> No.6688751

>>6688734

Go ahead, someone might actually learn something.

Whenever we talk about minorities in the 21st century it always comes down to some kind of persecution complex.

For years we treated disabled people like retards, ethnic minorities like animals and gay people like failed human beings. As we've eventually grown to understand how bad we've been as a culture, it's natural that we want to make up for it. But the reality is that you don't move forward by pretending that the differences don't exist.

>>6688736

Er, books, documentaries? There's not really one source I can give you online as I read up on most of this stuff before most people had an internet connection. If you google stuff about the Black and White minstrels (Rather than biased 'blackfacing' pages) you'll find stuff. Also read Janis Joplin's history and go from there, she was considered a 'nigger lover' in the 50s and 60s and you can get to see some of the scene from her musical roots performing at black clubs. It's a more modern example but you can trace it backwards from there.

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>>6688751

I like you anon. You're very well articulated and knowledgeable. We need more people like you.

>> No.6688764

>>6688751
The Black and White minstrels where AFTER the time they blackfaced for stereotypical reasons, and I'm not sure that one thing justifies the other.
But I get your point.

>> No.6688767

>>6688736
You could look into Al Jolson's defense of blackface, also interesting if you want to read up on the historical black/Jewish connection.

I just realized that sounded like some tinfoil shit, but I just mean that they identified with each other a lot, particularly as it concerned slavery.

>> No.6688774

>>6688764

No, they were just named Black and White minstrels afterwards. Reason being was that when it became common knowledge that white people were also in these groups, they became more acceptable as entertainment to other whites, so actual blacks decided to go 'super black' and use charcoal and burned cork to black their face up even more and advertise themselves as 'real coons' in order to get black only shows.

>> No.6688792

All in all, blackface was used to discriminate black people, so it's ok for people to be offended - even though they should check the context

>> No.6688801

>>6688792
I mean, it's okay to be offended by whatever. But it's better to learn the more complex history than settle for the predigested stuff.

>> No.6689940

>>6685902
The only thing she forgot was the glasses, but damn, is the rest good.

>> No.6689950

>>6685967
not even. Girl Ciel cosplayers never have the right look. He's not an elegant lady, he's a pissy little brat who has to dress in drag!

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...and now back on topic...

>> No.6691096

>>6685902
ljksjslkj wowzer! This is one of the most beautiful Anthy cosplayers I've ever seen.

>> No.6691098

>>6688751
Agreed with >>6688756
I hope you come by the board more often. Intelligent people are hard to come by here.

>> No.6691109

A better question...

Why are black people allowed in public?

>> No.6691225

>>6691109
The same reason your Mom is, you can't put people in jail for shitty upbringing skills.

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>>6688734
Ah yes, do you all remember when that famous Assassin's Creed III cosplay couple got shamed for this?

I'm not going to post their pic here since we are talk about good Black cosplays, so here, have a Black chick cosplaying as Aveline.

>> No.6691727

>>6688560
are you joking even if she did bind, DEM HIPS THIGHS AND ASS!
that being said i agree with your opinion of girly Megaman being girly

>> No.6695086

>>6683100
Would you feel awkward looking at a white person cosplaying a black character?

>> No.6695119

>>6688668
>>6688682
>>6688695
>>6688705
I feel the same way. Coloring your skin differently to achieve a closer appearance to the character you are dressed up as is just part of the costume, not to insult, unless they have ill intentions.

Now back on topic...
>>6683100
>>6685944
These are great. Need more black guys cosplays.

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>> No.6696076

>>6695119
Check your privilege then, whitey.

>> No.6696115

>>6689940
But movie Anthy doesn't wear glasses...

>> No.6696135

>>6695119
It's not offensive when black people do it,
why does it have to be racist when white people do it?

>> No.6696171

>>6696135
Because of the history and connotations I guess but still it's still racism done both ways surely.