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Secrets are up

>> No.6664207
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Snoop Dogg is a really nice guy

Also what was the one in OP pic about

>> No.6664211

The post where that bitch did the margins on brand was hilarious, because she actually made it look pretty reasonable

Protip: Nearly everything you buy is worth 50% or less in materials, welcome to capitalism

>> No.6664227

>>6664211
she's got a point but she i feel she is undervaluing cost of labor
if labor were put into it, the dresses would be the same price

>> No.6664248
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I loved this one

>> No.6664274

>>6664227
Don't even go into labor, it immediately makes me rage because I think of the people in etsy threads that are whining that they are WORTH getting $10+/hour for their precious labor whenever anyone points out that they have like a 500% on their shit and people would probably buy it more if they charged less.

Most people who recently started their own businesses make minimum wage or less in the first year, IF they make a profit at all, and these bitches want to be making a $10 an hour profit on handmade headbows.

>> No.6664280

what are "Secrets" and where do I view them at?

>> No.6664282

>>6664280
Go home.

>> No.6664283

Oh man, does anyone else think that the 2 secret is stonerchan coming back? She could be a little tacky, but I miss her blog.

>> No.6664287

>>6664274
What are you talking about? She was talking about brand. I don't know how much they /actually/ get paid for labor, but when you consider
-designing/drawing the print
-designing the dress
-sewing the dress
At a professional level, it's not insignificant.

>> No.6664320

>>6664287
Nah, but I always think of that person in every /cgl/ thread who pops up whenever anyone mentions an etsy item being overpriced.

Of course when you have employees you are paying it's different than when you pocket all profits yourself.

>> No.6664322

>>6664280
You can only see them if you're a paid member, sorry.

>> No.6664337

>>6664280
Don't expect help from these bitches. Their mouths are too full of dick to help you.

>> No.6664355

>>6664287
correct which then, if you factor in that price into the price of the fabric and extra stuff the secret poster was talking about, the dresses are close to the same price if not equal

>> No.6664367

>>6664355
Exactly, so she made her whole point ("Look at how much they're ripping you off for the brand name!") look completely idiotic.

>> No.6664368

>I hate Bodyline. Sew me.
Hehe

>> No.6664390

>>6664274
We have etsy threads?

>> No.6664392

>>6664280
I'm going to be nice because someone helped me.

behind-the-bows.livejournal.com

>> No.6664396

>>6664392
Seriously? 90% chance that person is a dude from /fit/ or /r9k/.

>> No.6664406

>>6664392
Not the anon who asked for it, but thank you!

>> No.6664408

>>6664396
So?

>> No.6664409

AP stole the pictures of the girls they posted?

>> No.6664413

>>6664409
On that topic, I didn't even hear of that mook until basically just this week, what's the deal w/ it? Is it like an AP encyclopedia or what?

>> No.6664419

>>6664408
So, you just handed them a platter of fun new ways to shit up our board and BtBs.

>> No.6664422
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6664422

This is the Squirrel Birthday Party print, which isn't even replica. Why use this and not an actual replica BL dress?

>> No.6664420

>>6664409
AP emailed people who spent over a certain amount (20 thousand yen maybe? I can't remember) and asked them to send in photos of themselves.
>>6664413
It was announced months ago, but not well publicized. it comes with a SC tote in black, and it has info about the newest items, historical info and snaps. Not sure what else as mine is still in the mail.

>> No.6664424

>>6664419
Not my problem. Besides, the link to the secrets is posted in almost every thread for it.

>> No.6664430

>>6664422
I think this secret was made by the bitch who made the last lolita confession thread that got deleted. The post is scary similar.

>> No.6664432

>>6664420
Ahh, I see. Thanks!

>> No.6664433

>>6664420
Who did they pick? Are there scans?

>> No.6664440

>>6664433
If there are any kind anons that would scan them. I personally would suggest you get your own.

>> No.6664451

>>6664430
I was just thinking that!

And I had a great lel because she sounded like a cunt all over again!

>> No.6664455

>>6664430
Although I don't know, the secret-maker actually sounds a lot more coherent.

>> No.6664464

>>6664433
It's only been out for like 3 days. I don't know if there are scans yet, but I doubt the whole thing is scanned even if they are... and I don't know who they picked because mine is still in the mail.

>> No.6664487

I have no idea why I look forward to these. I'm not a lolita, and I have no interest in becoming one in the future, but I get all excited when I see they're up.

>> No.6664489
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>>6664433

>> No.6664494

>>6664489
Is she wearing the baguette or is it just in the background??

>> No.6664498
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>>6664489
USA is here

>> No.6664500

>>6664494
baguette on head. AP posted behind-the-scenes shots of the photoshoot a few months ago.

>> No.6664503

>>6664487
this

>> No.6664509

>>6664503
Our dramu is the bombu

>> No.6664517

>>6664498
>pick legwarmers loita

>feature tall american lolita

>no brown people

well

>> No.6664540

>>6664498
Europeans do it best. (I have a thing for Russian and English Lolitas)

>> No.6664543

>>6664517
honestly, who cares? why does there always have to be a dark skin person included? look at south america-- there are more dark skinned people there and all the lolitas are pale. stop nit picking. Not including one black person isnt racist, it just means they arent there.

>> No.6664549

>>6664543
>look at south america-- there are more dark skinned people there and all the lolitas are pale

Let's not get into a class/wealth distribution discussion, but you know damn well why there aren't.

>> No.6664554

>>6664517
>Japan
>in charge of inclusivity/diversity
yeah...no

>> No.6664558

>>6664554
they're xenophobic as hell over there. sigh.

>> No.6664566

>>6664554
also this, very much so

>> No.6664569

>>6664498
Who are the girls there, other than Victoria?

>> No.6664572

So... you want them to add brown people just for the sake of adding a brown person?

>> No.6664577

>>6664572
The SJW disease has thus infected lolita communities nationwide.

>> No.6664583

>>6664572
original anon. I want them to add a brown person because they are dressed nice/coorded well. I'm pretty damn sure that they got denied just because of their race. fucking xenophobic Japan..

>> No.6664589

>>6664569
From the USA I recognize Victoria, Courtney, and Abby.

>> No.6664595

>>6664543
>it just means they arent there.
LEL

>>6664577
Anyone who likes seeing a brown face once in a while isn't a SJW.

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>>6664583
for example, xylia. really love her.

>> No.6664611

http://behind-the-bows.livejournal.com/34063.html?thread=12389903#t12389903

who is teddybearsapple and why are they so defensive?

>> No.6664618

>>6664611
they were the person posting on gtfo a bunch I thought? Or maybe they were the one posting a bunch about brolitajenny?

>> No.6664622

>>6664595
of course it is. You don't care about their outfit, just the colour of their skin. You are racist.

>> No.6664626

>>6664622
there was an attempt

>> No.6664623

>>6664618
Yeah, that's them

>> No.6664630
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Shitting marshmallows, you say?

>> No.6664631

>>6664611
>http://behind-the-bows.livejournal.com/34063.html?thread=12389903#t12389903

>Just stop taking the comm so seriously and look at it for what it is: not so innocent fun based on drama and dirt in which anybody can participate.
>anybody
>except if you don't like me

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>>6664622
Your opinions are really interesting

>> No.6664637

3 weren't posted because they were valentine's?
Does btb have something against positive secrets?

>> No.6664646

>>6664637
Apparently. But they are very inconsistent so idk

>> No.6664647

>>6664637
Good. I'm glad they're starting to filter out the valentines.

Positive secrets =/= valentines

>> No.6664663

Some of these secrets are awful.
A few of those people should've been saving up the money to take a couple of grammar courses at their local colleges instead of blowing it on dresses. They really need it.

>> No.6664672 [DELETED] 

>>6664589
Abby is too tall for lolita. She's at least six feet tall.

>> No.6664677

>>6664672
does she have a blog?

it seems they liked her height..

>> No.6664682

>>6664677
talking about this "abby" girl. does she have a blog?

>> No.6664724
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>>6664682
Sorry, dropped my pix. She's too tall for lolita. Pretty sure she doesn't have a blog.

>> No.6664735

>>6664724
She makes that other girl look like a dwarf holy crap

>> No.6664737

>>6664724
What comm is she in?

>> No.6664759

>>6664630
.......................... That was way more than I ever needed to know.

Brb, vomiting in a bin.

>> No.6664795

>>6664759
I can't believe she showed her face doing that.

>> No.6664806

>>6664630
how does that even work?

>> No.6664816

>>6664806
try it and report bac

>> No.6664826

>>6664630
Isn't that the Adult Baby from My Strange Addiction?

>> No.6664837

Anyone know where I can get the veil in the virgin mary secret (31)?

>> No.6664839

>>6664630
God, that girl is creepy looking. No wonder she has to resort to pandering to adult baby fetishists to get laid.

>> No.6664843

>>6664826
Oh my god. I was thinking the same thing.

>> No.6664853

>>6664795
>her
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jow2EfVCZlY

>> No.6664876

>>6664853
a transgender MtF adult baby... this motherfucker needs jesus

>> No.6664925

>>6664630
...why did I click on this?

>> No.6664934

>>6664839
>It's a man baby

Well that explains a lot.

>> No.6664949

>>6664630
Man,I tried to give him/her/riley the benefit of the doubt when watching it that they were just mentally jacked and trying to compensate for a bad childhood.Nope freaky adult baby sex.

Also why did i actually read that.EWWWW

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>>6664949
fun fact about riley: she's an oldfag

>> No.6664981

>>6664630
im literally crying why did i click this link?

>> No.6665027

>>6664981
im literally crying go the fuck back to tumblr

>> No.6665056

>>6665027
'Go back to tumblr' is the new 'no u'.

>> No.6665065

>>6664981
I bet you're not literally crying and you're just exaggerating because you've been brainwashed by moronic tumblr lingo.

>> No.6665067

>>6665056
No, it is an appropriate response to Tumblr memes.

>> No.6665113

>>6665065
I bet you are all massive faggots who are seriously overreacting. Less arguing, more weird ass ageplayers making themselves poop by sticking frozen marshmallows up their asses.

>> No.6665129

>>6665113
I can't find the site anymore but I once found an adult baby porn video of a girl in a maid dress that was labeled as "lolita" that /cgl/ would probably like.

>> No.6665137

>>6664630
Whoa, is this actually okay to do to yourself? The idea of putting marshmallows in my bum got me really hot and bothered so I'm really tempted to do this.

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>>6665129
No wait I found it.

>>6665137
I've heard that if you do it too often you could hurt yourself, but just once in a while is okay. I've also heard of people using mushy bananas.

>> No.6665153

>>6665137
DO IT BASED SCAT ANON
POST PICS

>> No.6665166

I like how this thread is now completely derailed.

>> No.6665169

>>6665166
Eh, if you want to bring up a secret you're welcome to.

>> No.6665171

>>6664630
....i had to check if i misclicked and ended up on /d/ after reading this

>> No.6665173

>>6665146
who would buy this?

>> No.6665179

>>6665065
>5065Replies: >>6665113
>>>6664981
>I bet you're not literally crying and you're just exaggerating because you've been brainwashed by moronic tumblr lingo.
>>>
> Anonymous 03/03/13(Sun)03:01 No.6665067
>>>6665056
>No, it is an appropriate response to Tumblr memes.
lol because people cant be on both 4chan and tumblr. wow.

>> No.6665180

>>6665173
Right? She just gives him a BJ and doesn't even shit herself! $15.99 my marshmallowy ass.

>> No.6665184

>>6665179
You know you can just quote the number of someone's post and we'll all know what you mean?

And obviously you can be on both Tumblr and 4chan or else Tumblr faggots would not be here so often

It doesn't make them less than absolutely disgusting

>> No.6665201

>>6665184
I understand. i've been on 4chan for years now and i;m new to tumblr, but i understand the tumblr lingo tends to catch on. i apologize.
I am disturbed by the shitting marshmallows thing though. I cant imagine it's very comfortable.

>> No.6665205

>>6665201
I've heard stories of the marshmallow/banana trick causing anal bleeding if performed frequently.

>> No.6665206

>>6665201
I don't know, having marshmallows in your bum seems oddly comfortable. Kind of like shitting a cloud or something. The kind of dump a real lifestyle lolita would have.

>> No.6665209

>>6665184
I go on both tumblr and 4chan but you'll never hear me saying stupid shit like "literally crying" and "????" and "stahp" on ANY website because those phrases make you sound like a retard.

>> No.6665220

>>6665209
Point taken

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>>6664630
>just found out that's a dude.

>> No.6665285

>>6664608

I really like her too!

>> No.6665288

>>6664724

She is tall but I don't think she looks bad in that co-ord, for a really tall Loli she's rockin' it.

>> No.6665297

>>6665288
Agreed. People can't help their height, but she probably shouldnt wear heels.

>> No.6665302

>>6664724
I don't see how she's too tall. Looks like she's dressed really well and taken consideration for her height. Her dress is hitting her knee, it's not like a mini skirt on her. Isn't that what lolitas like?

>> No.6665313

>>6665297
I don't think the heels throw off the outfit at all - she has a dress that fits and a nice looking outfit, and heels make the coord much more elegant than flats in the same style would.

>> No.6665315

>>6665205
I have my own kinks so I'm certainly not going to judge/criticize anyone for theirs, but seriously, I would be really worried about the safety of something like this. It seems like a really easy way to get an infection or fuck up your bowels.

>> No.6665363

>>6664540
The girls in the largest "european" picture are swedish though, not english

>> No.6665800

>>6665209
except plenty of people not on tumblr do that shit so going LUL GTFO TUMBLR FGT is just fucking stupid and, as mentioned, just the new stupid reply to something you can't say anything else to, like 'no you!!'.

>> No.6665804

>>6665800
Also
>any lolitas pretending they aren't on tumblr too
c'mon now, ladies.

>> No.6667011

Thinking about making a gtfo about this, but not sure.

http://behind-the-bows.livejournal.com/34063.html?thread=12406287#t12406287

>> No.6667012

>>6667011
the iron in her username is laughable.

>> No.6667018

>>6665800
>except plenty of people not on tumblr do that shit
No they don't. Tumblr shit is fine on Tumblr. Just like you probably wouldn't go there and call someone a jelly faggot, you shouldn't come here and say youre literally cryin. No one can actually smell if you're from Tumblr, it's just a matter of not making a big ass out of yourself when you post.

>> No.6667017

>>6667012
***irony

>> No.6667023

>>6664826
It looks like Pirate Toaster to me.

>> No.6667026

>>6667011
I didn't look too much, just looked like she was mildly defending herself from people calling her ugly? Does it get better?

>> No.6667031

>>6667026
I didn't see anything getoff-worthy either...

>> No.6667035

>>6667017
I stared at the milky chan icon for a good 5min trying to see if there was a tiny pink iron.

>> No.6667037

>>6667011
Why? Its not new drama. If anything someone should getoffegl the other thread on here about the other bat crazy Aussie brand.

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>>6667035

>> No.6667058

>>6667026
It seems like she doesn't take critique well at all, especially from other anons trying to give her advice on how to look her best with her landwhale size. Too bad they had to block out her face bc that can be the make it or break it point. For example, the fattychan in the blog cupcake's clothes at least looks good or tries clothes that flatter her body type.

>> No.6667069

>>6664826
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. She was a mtf too, and also had that mousy red hair plus the hornrimmed glasses. It's too big of a coincidence.

>> No.6667098

>>6667058
This girl is a lot fatter than that girl, and most of what she's getting is hardly advice. I would probably be a lot less calm if people were still mocking a three year old photo of me.

>> No.6667268

>>6667058
Her point:
> Maybe I would take concrit better if I would have ASKED for it. Now, I am simply responding to comments about a secret with my (overly old) picture on it on a wank community, I didn't ask for anything, right?

Honestly I think this is pretty reasonable.

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>>6665146
>Goth loli maid
>Goth loli

>> No.6667290
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>>6667011
>My only advice, from one full-chested lolita to another, is invest in a good quality expensive bra

>Why would I wear a piece of clothing that I don't want to wear? LOL
>piece of clothing that I don't want to wear
>I don't want to wear

>> No.6667298

>>6664724
why does she not have a blog- that is inspirational

>> No.6667307

>>6665206
I choked on my tea

>> No.6667328

>>6665206
Have you seen what happens to a heated marshmallow? The shit melts and sticks to everything. A lifestyle lolita would kill herself at the thought of sticky shit-mallows getting on her brand.

>> No.6667365

>>6667328
Reminds me about microwaving marshmallows. It gets HUGE and sticky, but soon deflates and hardens.

>> No.6667368

This shits makes me laugh

>> No.6667378
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>>6667011
Jesus christ I am actually a little mad how she thinks being this fat and fatter is a good thing.

>> No.6667382

>>6664498
RUSSIAN ALL THE WAY

>> No.6667397

>>6664724
Now THAT is a tall lolita doing it right.

>> No.6667445

>>6667378
Well she can just continue making her tits more flabby rather than perky, and maybe die early or something. Special snowflake syndrome.

>> No.6667476
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>>6664724
I think she looks lovely, especially since she is so tall. I blocked out her face for privacy, but here is a really tall loli from my comm who I think pulls of lolita perfectly, i love all her coords. I don't think there is such thing as too tall for lolita, just too tall for certain dresses

>> No.6667479

>>6667378
OH MY GOD!!! HOW COULD SEAWORLD DO SUCH A THING!??!! LETTING WHALES OUT OF THE AQUARIUM?!!?!??!?!?

>> No.6667487

>>6667445
How would having flabby tits cause her to die early? Unless she tripped over them or something, I guess. Her obesity is at dangerous levels, yeah, but a decent bra's not gonna fix that (although it'd make it slightly more bearable to look at).

>> No.6667488

>>6667479
OH MY GOD!!! YOU'RE SO FUNNY!??!!
Please shut up and die, holy fuck.

>> No.6667495

>>6667487
bras make your tits less flabby

I think anon just meant the obesity is flabbitizing her

>> No.6667497

>>6667495
sorry, I meant bras make your tits more flabby

>> No.6667502

>>6667476
>>6664724
Tall girls have such lovely legs. I like that both of them wear heels to show that off.

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>>6667476
>>6664724
i don't know her that well but she was nice when i met her and let her friend borrow that dress
i'm guessing she is around 6'? her friend was about 5'2"

>> No.6667514

>>6667511
what comm is she from?

>> No.6667537

>>6667497
That's not true either. Wearing them too much makes the muscles not as strong, but not wearing them enough overworks the muscles too much.

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>>6667514
no

>> No.6667540

>>6667476
Wow, I haven't been to the AGO in a while.

>free on tuesdays after 6

Awesome.

>> No.6667572

>>6667537
>overworks the muscles too much.
this doesn't sound like a real thing, but I am open to citations

>> No.6667600

It amused me how people kept getting mad when she "wouldn't take critique" and were just "offering suggestions" when she made it plainly clear that she likes how she looks and how she dresses and doesn't care what people think.

Yeah she's painful to look at but hey, that kind of thinking nowadays takes guts. She likes how she looks...the same can't be said for hell of a lot more women who are a lot thinner and who have bodies that other women would kill for.

>> No.6667609

>>6667600
But that's wrong. People were giving her suggestions saying that she doesn't look bad because she's fat but because she can't dress herself for shit, which is true. I think a lot of times people like her assume that any criticism is directed solely at weight which isn't always the case, so they put up their defenses to people who are actually trying to help.

>> No.6667639

>>6667609
lol
She 'can't dress herself' because she's not trying to hide her weight or make her figure more hourglass.
Girl looks gross, but let's not pretend her weight isn't the reason we give any fucks

>> No.6667651

Hey, so I'm new to cgl and from an outside perspective I just want you to know this is honestly some of the most fucked up shit I have ever seen. You guys make /b/ look like some harmony kombiyah mother fuckers. You guys have some wicked style but, Ya'll need jesus.

>> No.6667659

>>6667651
Its a community canabalized by drama. We are aware of this.

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>>6667639

>> No.6667669

>>6667476
What a pretty dress

>> No.6667682

>>6667639
Not to mention, if you can't see that her whole "I don't WANT a waist! I love being fat!" thing is a defense mechanism, you are dumber than a pile of bricks. Doesn't matter what she does, she doesn't have a waist and she will look fat.

>> No.6667684

>>6667651
I thought people knew this about us?

Girls, we've lost our reputation ;_;

>> No.6670653

>>6664630
....what did I just read?

>> No.6670715

>>6664826
oh god please no

>> No.6671880

>>6667011
>>6667378
I'm on the fence about this girl. I can understand being mad you got a btb post, especially using a picture 3 years old, but why then does she feel the need to respond to every fucking post? She just keeps saying "I'm fat and happy," and talks rudely to girls that admit she looks fine. Her reply to the anon that suggested a better bra really pissed me off, moreso than the girl that was critiquing her and later apologized.

I'm glad you're happy with your body, good for you! You coord better than a lot of obese girls, but there's no need to constantly remind us that society expects us to be thin, and you wear what you want because it's your choice. She also implies that everyone that says something mean, or even critique her, is "close minded" or insecure:

>Because that's just how I feel good about my body? I feel confident and pretty like this... I just can't explain it to people that are close minded otherwise they just won't accept it if it makes no sense in their minds...

Sorry I'm too retarded and insecure about myself to understand your point of view.

>> No.6672168

>>6671880
She's beyond being confident and just being stupid. She said she'd rather die early than lose weight. Seriously? She'd rather shove chips and Big Macs in her face than have a long life?

>> No.6672200
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>>6664498
>South America
>no chocolate goddesses


why

>> No.6672205

>>6672200
as someone said upthread, nips in charge of beauty

>>6671880
well to be fair, most people are pretty close minded about beauty compared to her. I don't find bodies that large beautiful, and she does. she is more open minded than me. not saying she is more correct or I aspire to her viewpoint, but I see where she is coming from.

and again, seriously, I think if any of us had an old photo basically become the posterchild for "too fat to be a lolita," we would be pretty pissed when it gets continually dredged up for a new round of shock and awe.

>> No.6672208

>>6672168
i would rather eat chips and big macs than live to one hundred.

then again i also bother to exercise at least a little and to get enough proper nutrition so i stay under 200 pounds.

>is fat with no fucks to give about losing weight

>> No.6672219

>>6672168
Replace food with drugs and you got yourself an addict. Personally, I think it's possible for somebody to have a food addiction but if they made food addiction an official thing, you'd have every fat person claiming they have it.

>> No.6672220

>>6672168
But I'm okay with that, you know? I'm confused that people are trying to reason with her when obviously both sides have different values. I think fat is unattractive, but if she doesn't, there's no way of telling her otherwise because it's an opinion. Therefore, if she wants to eat shitty foods and die young while being obese and she's perfectly fine with that, who is anyone to tell her otherwise? It's what she wants.

>> No.6672229

>>6672168
Welcome to the world of addictions and delusions.
>I'd rather be an alcoholic than live.
>I'd rather be a smoker than live.
>I'd rather be a size 000 than live.
>I'd rather be a doper than live.

>>6672219
They already have this and it's called an eating disorder. Compulsive overeating is a disorder.

>> No.6672232

>>6672229
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_overeating

In case you'd like to read more. It's goes a lot deeper than people just wanting to eat whatever they like. There's legitimate mental issues that can cause, and be exasperated by this.

>> No.6672237

>>6667011

This girl needs to stop acting like a twat, that's what I think

Most of the people in that thread were even being kinda nice

>> No.6672252

>>6665146
>$15.99 for 15 minutes
>buying porn
>buying porn online

>> No.6672267

>>6672229
It's official now? As for the deep psychological implications of it...I understand because I relapsed two months ago on benzos again. I tend to self medicate my bipolar even though I'm taking medications that are suppose to "treat" it. As in making feel like a lifeless hunk of mumbling flesh. I finished detoxing last week and still constantly think about drowning myself in Oxy and Xanax. Fuck this, I'm done with drugs.
>inb4 you're not done with the drugs.

>> No.6672272

>>6664970
2008 is old now...?

>> No.6672270

>>6672267
Oh boy every time I hear someone with a bipolar diagnosis talk about coming off their lithium I get cold sweats.

This will not end well.

>> No.6672275

Who is 77 about? I need to know who to avoid

>> No.6672287

>>6672267
...now? It's been officially recorded in the International Journal of Eating Disorders as early as 1995. And before that people suspected there was a psychological problem with overeaters in the early 80s.

>> No.6672303

>>6672287
I gotta brush up on my reading.

>> No.6672319

>>6672303
I don't think it's your fault.
I think the problem lies in the long-time stigmatization by media and social pressure that if one's fat then there's nothing else possibly wrong with them besides just being lazy and ignorant about nutrition.

And to be quite honest I think underweight people are stigmatized in just the same way.
People forget that there are very real chemical and psychological imbalances that can cause people to be the way they are and behave how they do. But you understand that.

>> No.6672339
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6672339

>>6672267
>bipolar
>self-medicating with benzos
>done with actual mood stabilizers
girl u a mess

>>6672319
really goes for all psychological disorders; honestly I think personality disorders (p much no idea why it happens + nearly impossible to treat + often able to explain themselves/appear like a normal person) have it the hardest in the "well why don't you just stop doing that" game.

sorry for off topic, have an on topic pic

>> No.6672360

>>6672319
I agree with you on the underweight stigma. My cousin tried to hide her anorexia for years until it reared it's head and almost killed her. If the people in her life weren't so critical of her she could've avoided getting that sick

>> No.6672367

the fucking petticoat drama on tumblr right now, jfc. that better be put into some secrets or I'll be dissapointed.

>> No.6672368

>>6672219
>if they made food addiction an official thing, you'd have every fat person claiming they have it.

And they probably do. Most fat (ACTUALLY fat, not chubby) people live in pain, have poor health, little energy to do things and can only be cheered up through food. They develop diabetes and heart problems and they'd still rather eat all day than get better.

That's an addiction.

>> No.6672386

>>6672368
Quite. Unfortunately it's still not PC for us to set up and send chronic overeaters to starving clinics the same way we occasionally ship severely anorexic girls off to feeding retreats.

The dark side of me finds it grimly balanced that both chronic over- and under-eating both tend to result in heart attacks.

>> No.6672389

>>6672367
no idea what you mean please post caps

>wahh I'm a babby and I need you to hold my hand
but please? I can't into Tumblr

>> No.6672396

>>6672386
They actually have centers for the severely obese.
As well as recovery facilities for obese teens where they're sent to dormitories and put on supervised diets and exercise regimes. It's just not exactly a hot topic as you can imagine.
But there's been plenty of shows documenting their lives at these facilities, particularly on TLC.

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>>6672389
this was going around and lolitas on tumblr were saying
"but you don't HAVE to wear a petticoat!"
or "fuck you! you wear lolita and not wear a petticoat!"

basically dumb social justice warriors getting overly offended.

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>>6672443
I know I asked and I was expecting Tumblr, but I got a little mad

Petticoats are the defining feature of lolita, if you don't like that you are welcome to not be one

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6672492

>>6672443
here are the responses to that

>filename

if you were on tumblr and followed a lolita blog that reblogged that post or this one
http://shadesoflolita.tumblr.com/post/44659219030/if-someone-tells-you-its-ok-to-wear-lolita-without
chances are, you probably saw those bloggers get anon hate for reblogging it as well.

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>>6672492

>> No.6672544

>>6672492
>>6672519
God, itas everywhere.

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6672557

>>6672544
Should be spammed everywhere to show why you have to wear a petti.

>> No.6672575

>>6672557
It just looks so much happier in the second picture.

>> No.6672583

>>6672386
Being obese and chronic overeating is STILL an eating disorder though. Like think of Oprah through the years...

>> No.6672584

>>6672557
UM DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO

WHO MADE U THE BOSS OF LOLITA

>> No.6672581

>>6672557
I'm going to add that to my argument. thank you anon.

>> No.6672590

>>6672575
>>6672557
>>6672544
>>6672519
>>6672492
>>6672456
>>6672443
Ugh this rustled my jimmies a bit, but fuck it. Let those idiots go around without a petti if they really fucking want.
They're probably still in their special snowflake phase.
At the end of the day, the dramu that will come from butthurt over being made fun of will be entertaining.

>> No.6672608

>>6672590
I used to be like you once, but then I realized something. People think lolita looks weird enough without having people who look horrible because they buy shit quality dresses or don't know how to dress and groom themselves. I don't want to be compared to some smelly, greasy weaboo.

>> No.6672618

>>6672608
I know, I know; but there's really very little you can do against speshul snowflakes until they realize it them selves.
And trying will probably make you pop a blood vessel.

>> No.6672623

>>6672584
I lol'd.
the sage completes it.

OH! speaking of itas, Ita dressup day is coming up soon (the 10th). I think I want to incorperate this petti-less theme in my outfit..

>> No.6672698
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6672698

>>6667378
I was trying to find her, but all I found out was that she's from Quebec. This photo is a bit more better?

>> No.6672705

>>6672698
http://www.parfaitdoll.com/2012/10/being-a-plus-size-lolita.html

You dropped your link.

>> No.6672707

>>6672698
jfc someone get this girl a BRA

>> No.6672714

>>6672698
she certainly doesn't mind shooping her face even though she's 100% fine with her body though huh?

>> No.6672735

>>6672698
http://petitetomoyo.blogspot.ca/

this is her blog

>> No.6672743

>>6672698
Outfit might work with tweaking (and a bra)
The whole neck up area is fucked and makes her look like some kind of sweet version of Rooney Mara

>> No.6672757

>>6672698
Even if she got a bra I still think this looks silly. The tiny feet and that face shot are cracking me up.

>> No.6672768

>>>6672698
What she needs:
Shorter skirt
Bra
Get rid of that pom pom shit on the front
Something to make it look like she has feet
head amputation

>> No.6672772

>>6672698
Honestly if she'd make the skirt a wee bit shorter she wouldn't look as frumpy. I personally don't have a problem with this coord otherwise.

>> No.6672785

>>6672237
I thought so too. I didn't get why she was being so defensive when most people said she just needed to fix a few things.

>> No.6672844

>>6672590
wth is with one of the first responses being 'well if you're going for 'casual old-school' it's ok because lolitas didn't wear petticoats back then' ... um casual wasn't even a THING back then so yeah, they probably didn't wear petticoats because the 'sub-style' didn't even exist. And they wore pettis with regular coords, they just weren't as poofy as most are today...

>> No.6673017
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6673017

And we have out first picture evidence of 'omg so rori w/o petti'
>lolita without a petticoat! Oh noes!? Nope. This is worn correctly. It’s an empire waist JSK and would look FUGLY with a petticoat.

>> No.6673026

>>6673017
wtf, is there a stock photo? Because I'm sure the fucking stock photo has a fucking petti worn with it.

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6673024

>>6673017
>Implying empire waist is ever not fugly

>> No.6673030

>>6673017
Oh my god

Except not, because empire waist dresses are commonly worn with petticoats (like Dream Sky)

>> No.6673039

Hey guys. This isn't secret-related.
But I didn't really want to shitpost with a small question.

I want to order a bodyline dress for my first purchase. But my bust is 47 inches (119cm) and their 2L goes to 102cm, so I'm fucked on that aren't I? I'd have to get a 3L, wouldn't I? (Haven't seen one on BL yet though.)

Thanks in advance

>> No.6673043

>>6673017
Wait, you're quoting her sarcastically, right?

>> No.6673091

>>6673039
There's a Lolita general thread which is great for questions like these.

Their 2L varies from like 92cm bust to like 106 cm bust. 4L is like 98 to whatever they damn well please. They have no standard sizing at all and it's determined by voodoo. Look at some of their full-shirred items, I've seen them worn on bigger busts. But honestly, Bodyline isn't too great about working on larger sizes. To be truthful, you might have better luck with fully-shirred brand (Check out Chantilly and MAM). I've seen some pieces go up that high.

You'll have a lot more luck finding existing things that fit you (although there are options, but they stretch horizontally and are cut for small cup sizes regardless) once you get down to below the 110 cm mark. I started there and I'm about 100cm right now. I still have issues with some Bodyline pieces but I wear brand just fine.

>> No.6673107

>>6673091
I just now found a 4L that's 98-110 and I'm like how is my bust this freaking big, but my waist is only an m?! It's really annoying. u_u
I will check those out. Thanks!

>> No.6673119

>>6673017
link? image search failed me

>> No.6673127

>>6673039
Their sizes mean nothing, go by measurements. The only dress they have up that will possibly fit you is l320

>> No.6673136

>>6673107
Also try milky ange.

>> No.6673142

>>6673127
Oh god the plaid. I just assumed the m was automatically around the same size. I'll look more closely. Thanks

>>6673136
I will! Thank you!

>> No.6673184

>>6673026
>>6673030
>>6673043
>>6673119
>>6673017

http://alphadrug.tumblr.com/post/44685383141/lolita-without-a-petticoat-oh-noes-nope-this

>> No.6673473

>>6673184

I am really fucking tired of this girl. She disappeared form our comm to go be ubercoolkawaiichick at roller derby, failed, and is now back spamming up our comm with events no one wants to go to. She can't even dress hereself. So damn tired of her.

>> No.6673506

>>6673184
Where did this "loose rules" meme come from? Lolita's rules aren't all that "loose."

>> No.6673518

>>6664274
>Don't even go into labor

B-but I'm nine months pregnant...

>> No.6673652

>>6673017
>I’m queer and single. I like them boi, butch, and MtF.

So... she really likes dudes after all? I don't get how she can prefer MtF as a lesbian over just females?

>> No.6673684

>>6673652
Queer doesn't just mean lesbian. Given that it's tumblr she's probably some kind of genderfluid-sexual snowflake that'll hopefully settle down to a nice bi in a few years.

>> No.6673692

>>6673684
oh ok, that makes me feel old. oh well, learn something new all the time.

>> No.6673824

>>6673652
I don't give two shits what people's sexuality or gender identity actually is, but I've become convinced that once someone adopts the term "queer," they become batshit.

>> No.6673885

>>6664724
Blonde girl here, I'm 5'1 so I make anyone look tall. My friend was wearing beautiful five inches heels. Haters gonna hate on her long legs~

>> No.6673890

>>6673017
>And we have our first picture evidence of 'omg so rori w/o petti'

Tea everywhere

Oh /cgl/ never change

>> No.6673891

>>6672735
>petitetomoyo
>petite

Genuinely cannot tell if subtle troll or not

>> No.6673913

>>6673824
Not always. I've always seen it as a catch-all term for talking about the entire community, or when someone just doesn't want to get super-personal their sexuality. E.g. "I identify as queer" rather than "I'm a lesbian/I'm bi/I'm gay/I'm MtF and am attracted to girls etc. "Queer" is also easier to say than "GLBTQQA," ya know?

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>>6673026
Empire waist Paris Window is pretty frumpy looking,but yeah it should still be worn with a petti otherwise it just looks even more frumpy and just kind of hangs there. Stock picture has a petti.

>> No.6673934

>>6673184
not cute at all....
She doesn't even do proper make up.

>> No.6673963

>>6664543
can be more racist feeling when there's one 'token' person of color in every photoshoot.

>dat ugly skirt on the one just to the right of the main pic for america. omg, who could think that's a good look for anyone? the european pics are so much better, at least in this spread

>> No.6673969

>>6673913
Maybe it's just the idiots on Tumblr who shove QUEER QUEER QUEER DID I MENTION I'M QUEER INSTEAD OF A PERSONALITY I'M JUST QUEEEER in your face. Admittedly I am making a generalization because I've never met anyone who openly identifies with the term in real life, only really on Tumblr.

>> No.6673971

>>6673024

this. most empire waists look like bad maternity wear (some don't but this is a style that seems very hard to do *right*). if you're going to have one, go below the knee and pay close attention to draping behind.

>> No.6673974

>>6673969

my cousin's bf (gay) uses 'quiltbag' but only in a snarky sense (like, 'steven is such a quiltbag otherkin ambisexual')

>> No.6673996

>>6673969

I say I'm queer instead of bisexual/pansexual/whatever because honestly I feel more comfortable with the term.

>> No.6674026

>>6673184
> About Moi
> Photos of Moi

jfc, I always cringe when someone spells "me" as "moi"

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6674070

>>6672698
It looks like she is wearing a frilly tent

>> No.6674125

>>6673996
Different anon but I just hate the term because it just sounds kinda stupid. Like, if you don't want to specify as gay/bi/pan I'd just say gay to save time. Like, unless it's somebody you're planning to fuck they don't really care much about specifics.

>> No.6674235

>>6674125
>>6673996
Just say bi. Anything more is tumblrfaggotry.

>> No.6674282

I am flabbergasted that the petticoat thing was even... a thing

I mean what the actual fuck is going on in the lolita community

>> No.6674286

>>6673518
i lol'd

>> No.6674486

>>6673891
She said that 'petite' refers exclusively to height, but I'm pretty sure that's not true. 'Petite dejeuner' doesn't mean 'not-very-tall lunch', after all.

Unless Canadian French is different.

>> No.6674497

>>6674486
In most department stores 'petite' refers to clothes that are suited for shorter women, not necessarily tiny in the sense of size. But it is assumed that usually if you're that short you've taken care not to blow up to 300 pounds.

She probably fits more into the category of plus size petites.

>> No.6674501

>>6674486
I don't think that's true. I've heard petite used with reference to a small business. She's just making stuff up and hoping no one understands French.

>> No.6674503

>>6674486
>>6674501
Ladies please...

"In fashion and clothing, a petite size is a standard clothing size designed to fit women of shorter height, typically 160 cm (5 ft 3 in) or less."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petite_size

>> No.6674506

>>6673518
GOSH! You're so insensitive! Going into labor is one of my triggers, you can't just do it around me, I don't CARE if you're 12 months pregnant. Don't. Do. It.

>> No.6674511

>>6674497
>>6674503
>She said that 'petite' refers exclusively to height
>petite does not refer exclusively to height
>GOSH SHE MEANT AS IN FASHION, DUH

>> No.6674518

>>6672698
>>6672698
FML. I actually met her at a meetup a while ago. I thought it was her at first, but I was unsure. She was disgusting, she was wearing a tent of a cherry berry bunny replica that was too big in most places. She has home-dyed pink hair that looks like fucking hay. Luckily those bows cover up her nasty roots, she wears a lot of clip in stuff for online photos apparently. When she was at the meetup I attended we went to a restaurant and she had literally 3 times as much as everyone else.

I never go to any meetups when she's around.

>> No.6674524

With regard to the whole "petite" thing, maybe she meant it as petit, like French for small in the same way some weebs like to put "chibi" etc. in their names?

>> No.6674528

>>6674524
even so chibi doesn't mean short it means tiny. Like cats are chibi, short fat dogs aren't.

>> No.6674532

>>6674528

I know, but I'm pretty sure petit works the same way, it CAN mean short, but generally it means small.

>> No.6674542

>>6674511
Not to be that douche but I'm fairly certain she was referring to height/clothing size.
I thought it was implied.

>> No.6674544

I love how people in the comments think that she legit doesn't care what people think, but you know she's really crying her eyes out eating 5 tubs of icecream behind the screen. I really hope people like that die.

>> No.6674546

>>6674532

Just realized that reads confusingly. Petit means short but it also means small and is the French word for small. Like petit fours are tiny cakes. It can mean either.

>> No.6674550

>>6674544
Wow, you are a c-u-n-t.

>> No.6674553

>>6674550
Yep ^___^

>> No.6674552

>>6674532
even so, she said herself that in french it means short, when it really means small.

>> No.6674558

>>6674553
^______^ you're so witty.

>> No.6674555

>>6674546

Also, I'm not saying petit fours means tiny cakes, I'm saying they ARE tiny cakes.

>> No.6674556

>>6674552
It can mean either. I don't see what the big deal is. At least in the fashion sense of the term she's correct about it.

>> No.6674582

>>6674511
We are talking about lolita clothing sizes. Of fucking course someone is going to use the fashion definition of "petite".

>> No.6674599

>>6674582
Except her username is "petite tomoyo" as in "little tomoyo". So the petite part would refer to either small or young when talking about a person. If she was called "petite robe" then I would believe it was in reference to fashion term.

>> No.6674677

>>6674524
Petite/petit are the same word. Petite is feminine, petit is masculine.

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>>6664724
This girl reminds me of my aunt, she has those perfect gazelle legs.

>tfw everyone in your family is tall and leggy except you and you mother

>> No.6674683

>>6674677

I know, but I was trying to distinguish between the French petit and the English loanword petite.

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6674695

>>6674599
Oh god, you are really grasping here. Sorry.
She may be delusional about being comfortable with her size, but clearly there's not a chance in hell she thinks she's a size 1. Quite clearly she means it in reference to height. Stop.

>> No.6674705

>>6674599
uh, when you go into the petite section in a department store, you think of yourself as a petite person (as in short, since they have a huge range of sizes)

>> No.6674724

>>6674683
Ah, I see. Ignore me, then.

>> No.6674731

Wow, this argument went off on a tangent...

>> No.6674742

>>6674518
That's so embarrassing :( I wouldnt want to associate with her either.

>> No.6674833

>>6674731
I almost miss the marshmellows

>> No.6674880

>>6674518
Is she just as annoying in real life? I mean, besides looking fat and eating a lot.

>> No.6674903

>>6674880
Basically. She has all the normal weeb traits; overly hyper, loud, generally obnoxious and she's a bit rude to people. She's also extremely unaware of herself...ie, doesn't understand that she's blocking the hallway or in peoples' way etc.

>> No.6674904

>>6674903
she sounds creepy on her blog... calling her friends weird pet names (went to see mu bunnies today!) where does she live again?

>> No.6674909

>>6674904
I think she lives either in or near Quebec city.

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>>6674833
I don't have any more marshmallows but here's some whipped cream to tide you over.

>> No.6674995

>>6674938
I have... no idea how I was able to read that whole thing, I am proud I manage to get through it all and have no idea WHY I am proud.
Oh god why do people do this?

>> No.6675012

>>6674995
I don't understand either, coprophilia is the fetish I understand the least.

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6675048

>>6674938

I just don't know. People are into stuff like this?

>> No.6675062

>>6675048
Well, why the fuck not?

>> No.6675081

>>6674938
>very long poop story.png

Such a moving tale. The part where he eats the poop covered Starburst and finds a hair in it brought tears to my eyes.

>> No.6675084

>>6675062
You can get seriously sick from eating poop, it seems very dangerous. I guess risking disease is part of the thrill, though.

>> No.6675093

>>6675048
>>6675012

Ever since I read the blog of that one girl who likes to shove animal intestines and rotten food inside of her, and who eventually got a serious infection that made her sterile but still does it anyway, coprophilia doesn't horrify me the way it used to.

>> No.6675099

>>6675084
I'm sure they're aware of it, I just figure there's a fetish for everything and whatever, man.

>> No.6675097

>>6675093
was that the same girl who stuck the rotten meat with the fly eggs in her vagoo right before they hatched so she could feel maggots wriggling around inside? It was a pretty interesting read and she supposedly had to go to the hospital and what not because she spent a full day or two masturbating with the maggots inside her and then passing out and then waking up and starting all over.

>> No.6675102

>>6675097
Yep, same girl. She still posts, but usually only once or twice a year.

>> No.6675104

>>6675102
wow, I never thought I'd hear about her again... I read the maggot one like... god, almost ten years ago? I could never find it again, what is the link?

>> No.6675109

>>6675107
perfect, thanks, I haven't even looked for it for years, awesome sauce

>> No.6675107

>>6675104
Her blog is the first hit on Google when you search for "Blowfly Girl".

>> No.6675118
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>>6675084
Speaking of risking diseases...

>> No.6675124

>>6673107
some of them will fit higher, if fully shirred. the ones you see second hand often will give yo ua better idea, since people post the 'actual' measurements. things like that damn overdone macaroon dress might fit you.

but to be real, boobs squish a lot. I had a 47" bust, now I've lost weight it's like.. 43"?? when i measure in NORMAL CLOTHES AND BRA. so I aim for like 108 cm or 110.. but when i bought a 4L blouse that maxes at 110 it was way loose (its the bunny ears attached to the collar one on the last page if you are interested). sometime after that I actually looked up the "official measurements" of dresses i bought at IRL events (swap meets etc) and realized, like, the T2L jsk i bought which i fit in.. was like 100cm lol. this happened wit a replica too. my boobs are bigger outside of lolita but they compact down to fit in a surprising amoutn of it at 105 and lower... it juster depends on how comfortable you are with it. one of them i sold because it hurt too much, but it def fit lol

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>>6675081
It brought a little vomit to my throat.

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>>6673017
this is the same girl in a "lolita" outfit. she's in no damn place at all to give ANYONE advice. ever.

>> No.6675431

>>6675107
curiosity got the better of me... totally gross and fascinating