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ATTN: new Otakon?

in VEGAS BABY.

Anyone think they're gonna go? Just booked my hotel room. I've always wanted to go to Vegas, so... I'm really hoping to make it to this.

>> No.6643736

Hell no. Same weekend as MAGFest. MAGFest rules.
Besides, I won't even go to Otakon in Baltimore anymore.

>> No.6643742

>>6643736
but... anime. and gambling. together.

>> No.6643756

and the number of actual cosplay marriages will drastically go up now.

>> No.6643766
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>>6643736
brofist! Magfest is one of the greatest things ever and Otakon can suck a dick.

I think Mag is still throwing around the idea of having a summer event one day.

>> No.6643782

What a terrible idea. Vegas can barely even support its homegrown cons, what do they think this'll do?

>> No.6643787

I would be willing to give it a shot. If the con is awesome, anime con and Vegas. If it blows, there's still Vegas. I'm considering it since that's plenty of time to plan expenses.

>> No.6643838

Otakon Vegas? Count me the fuck in.

Now I can fuck me some cosplay prostitutes, preferably Scanty and Kneesocks.

Maybe Otakon can hire out real burlesque ladies instead of the what the fuck broads you see in "cosplay burlesque"

>> No.6643959

The convention is close to Anime Los Angeles, but I am sure that they can get lots of SoCal cosplayers with lots of buzz. The question is whether the venue is good for cosplay.

>> No.6643996

Initially, the thought of this con just seemed like a trainwreck, but actually, maybe its location would attract older con goers? It could work? Sure some local youngsters would attend, but I bet more older people would be willing to fly in. If people were capable of behaving themselves, it could yield some awesome casino photoshoots and some nice 18/21+ content. Hell, it'd be pretty sweet to sit down for black jack at a table full of cosplayers and con goers.

That would my ideal, optimistic thought, anyways.

>> No.6643999

I want to go. I want to go and I want to see Kaiji and Akagi cosplays everywhere.

>> No.6644005

>>6643996
I think the idea of this con would only work if it was 18/21+ though.. If that's the appeal of it, then having kids around would just make it difficult to bring that focus in.

>> No.6644012

I'm in. Anime Vegas and Animegacon are total shit so I'm more than willing to give this one a try since it's being run by an experienced organization. Hopefully, this will be a good local con. If not... there's always Cali.

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I would really love to go just for the excuse to head to vegas, but the dates really killed it for me. Reasons to go to Magfest outweigh this by a large margin.

>> No.6644041

>CES 2014
>Jan 7-10
Although in recent years I've been getting there only the day before. Meh, sorry Otakon. So close and yet so far.

>> No.6644122

Ah man I was hoping for a 2nd one in Baltimore. Multiple cons within walking distance of my house would be nice. Can't really complain with all the nice DC cons though.

>> No.6644135
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6644135

I want to go but since I'm located in Chicago the price difference between going to Otakon and Otakon Vegas is minimal. Fucking airfare man...

>> No.6644141

>>6644135
Better Chicago to Vegas than Eastcoast to Vegas, though.

I wonder what they think their main eastcoaster base is going to do, or are they just trying to break into the westcoast market? That's what I assumed, but this might be bad blood for westcoast cons..

>> No.6644148

I'm all for it. There needs to be more animu cons in Vegas.

Although I don't think it will attract as many attendees since like 30% of Otakon is under 21. Not much fun going to Vegas if you're underage.

>> No.6644151

>>6644141
There is already enough bad blood with the West Coast cons. Anime Expo has bad blood with AM2 and PMX. Anime Conji has bad blood within itself. Otakon has a generally good working relationship with most of these conventions, which probably explains why they did the convention in Nevada, not California, so they don't step over the toes of the California cons while moving westward.

>> No.6644154

>>6644151
>Otakon has a generally good working relationship with most of these conventions

That's what I was thinking is a problem, though. If they have a good relationship with these cons, but are now infringing on a timeperiod where there's a couple westcoast cons (especially with ALA), I can't imagine they wouldn't be a little miffed by this movie?

>> No.6644158

>>6644154
>move
hurr

>> No.6644159

>>6644041
Meh. CES is fun to see and try out the new gadgets but it's a pretty superficial event. Anime cons are a much more interpersonal and meaningful experience.

>> No.6644165

>>6644154
I could imagine the ALA people are probably pretty pissed, but they are at or near full capacity, so if or when they start having attendance caps having Otakon Vegas around may not be a bad thing for the people who couldn't make it.

>> No.6644175

>>6644141
Actually to add to this, I just noticed in their FAQ that attendees of Otakon have a steep discount for OtaVegas. So I guess they are trying to attract people from the eastcoast/usual Ota crows...

>> No.6644182

I'm willing to try Ota Vegas out since it will bring out a somewhat more mature crowd of people to chill with.

Besides, I need to see at least one Faye Valentine cosplayer hitting the poker tables at the casino. Get on that one for me ladies.

>> No.6644190

>>6643736
Erm... What's so special about MAGfest? I go to cons primarily to meet guests and in general the MAGfest guest lineup has been fairly poor compared to most anime cons. I mean there's John St. John but doesn't he go there every year anyway?

>> No.6644261

so is this a no-cosplay convention? considering that 90% of the hotel floors in vegas is casinos, and they don't like people taking pics/videos of their machines?

>> No.6644273

>>6644261
That's what I was thinking, what do they expect to happen when people start trying to take cosplay photos in the casino?? There's already comments intending to do that in this thread.

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>otakon vegas is during my 21st birthday
>but it's also during magfest which i've always wanted to go to

>> No.6644279

>>6644261
Yeah, photography in a casino is not allowed. Planet Hollywood does have a mezzanine in front of the con center and it is really close to the entrance and the miracle mile mall so if someone wanted to do an outside shoot or mall shoot they can find some areas.

>> No.6644355

same weekend as ALA? if this isn't further proof now that cons are now catering to the lowest common denominator of drunktard IRL troll bros that dominate this board then I don't know what is at this point.

>> No.6644383

>>6644159
well unless Otakon Vegas has some badass guests I want to see I'll probably not show up in time for it. I do Fanime/AX/SDCC so it's not like I'm hurting for cons. SHOT show the week afterward, and if you're into it, Adult Entertainment Expo right after CES. A batch of my friends always go to that.

>>6644261
>>6644273
You can still cosplay, can still take photos, just don't get caught by a pitboss or a manager on a bad day. I've taken photos inside casinos of other people no problem. The cocktail waitresses don't really care. Everyone kind of expects a whole "oh em gee Vegas let's have fun!" attitude and atmosphere so they aren't going to get on your ass immediately unless you're being obnoxiously loud or annoying to other patrons. I'd probably skip using a flash since that'll bring more attention to you.

Now if you're not at the machines then knock yourself out. You'll see wedding guys running around with light stands and gear from time to time, especially during wedding season, and no one gives a fuck. People expect tourists to take photos.

There's a shitload of casinos so if you do have to push the envelope and manage to get kicked out of one, well, there's always another twenty to also get kicked out of. "Don't get caught" is a better idea overall.

>> No.6644410

>>6644190
What is special about MAGFest is the Arcade room full of modern and classic arcade games and pinball machines.

>> No.6644470

Alright I guess I'll throw in how I feel about this since I live in vegas.
Vegas is a horrible place to throw an anime convention. The venues are expensive on the strip and this one is right on it. So I wonder how they are going to make up for it in badge prices.
Also vegas is not friendly to 21 and under, they aren't even supposed to be in the casino without an adult and they have to stay on the carpet path. Also you have to be 21 to get a room anywhere near there. Masks are also a no go at all and security will act before they ask questions and people who have never been to vegas especially younger kids won't know all the rules there are in a casino.
PH is a BIG casino with the pleasure pit downstairs and the peepshow upstairs so I won't be surprised if people get lost looking for the convention center part of it. It's also connected to the miracle mile shops which can be confusing . It's a long walk to even get to PH through it.
Personally I don't feel comfortable having conventions in these big casinos because of all the "normies" These girls dressing in some of the more revealing outfits will be harassed by drunk tourists. (this is kind of an everyday thing though here in vegas)
I wish they would take advantage of our actual convention center here.
Anyways I hope to see you all here and I hope you have fun visiting.

>> No.6644482

>>6644470
>So I wonder how they are going to make up for it in badge prices.
in b4 increasing Otakon badge prices again

Anyway your comment about sums up my own concerns with this convention. I don't think this is a very well thought-out plan on their part, but if it does succeed it will be interesting to see how they handled these problems, especially problems related to the younger crowd. They should have just made it an adult-only event.

>> No.6644490

>>6644470
I'll second you on the below 21 stuff. I couldn't even stand at the counter of one of the club card places while my dad was getting a replacement card (back before legal age). PH is pretty big but I've always found it beneficial to ask where stuff is. I've only been to one convention in PH and it's the area in the Mezzanine, right? Fairly easy to locate, thankfully.

LVCC probably costs a ton more so I don't see small conventions that don't have a lot of funding getting in there.

>> No.6644497

>>6644490
Hahaha it's okay, I got yelled at the Rio because of the same thing. Also I got yelled at because I stopped to watch my boyfriend play roulette in MGM and I was just a TINY bit off the path. Which was kinda funny because I could still watch, just on the carpet path.
They really take it seriously and I hope people understand that.

>> No.6644518

>>6644497
Yeah that was one of the few times I was asked whether I was 21 or not, even when watching other people gamble up close. Not sure if I should be happy about that or not since I guess I look older...

>> No.6644572

>>6644470
I booked my hotel today. I've always wanted to visit Vegas, not sure if I'll actually go, but no harm done if I end up cancelling. Hotel with the Otakon block rate was only $109/night, $126 with taxes I believe. Since I'll be going to Ota/Baltimore as well, badges are only $25 for the weekend. The real wallet-breaker is the flight, from NYC I'm looking at somewhere around $400.. but I've seen a lot of 'deals' for flights to Vegas, so I'm hping I can knock that down to ~200. Basically, with 3 other people, I believe I'm looking at paying under $500 for a nice 7-day vacation to a location I've always wanted to visit. If I was just staying for the 3-4 con days, it'd be closer to $350 If I was going just for the con I can't say it would be worth my time/money. The fact that it's in a tourist location is actually awesome to me. Gonna hit up ALL da slots and buffets

>> No.6644589

I grew up in Vegas. I have been to a bunch of Vegas cons. They're pretty miserable. I don't know how I feel about a bunch of hyperactive underage kids on the Strip, but I'm interested to see what happens regardless.

>> No.6644606

I'm finally moving out of this hell hole that is las vegas and of course something interesting comes along after I'm gone.

>> No.6644616

Too close to ALA for me. If OtaVegas is still going strong after a couple years I'll consider it but until then I'll go to conventions for the conventions, and to Vegas for Vegas.

Now, if this were going to be in October-November, I'd look at it more closely as there aren't any other cons going on nearby at that time (not counting Aki-con).

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>>6644572
vegas has a lot of super dirt cheap hotels (which are obviously on the lower end of things) so if you don't mind journeying over to PH you can go even cheaper.

Caesar's new buffet is getting good reviews (and it should considering how much it costs). I also like the M casino's buffet but you need a car for that. Bellagio is good too. South Point has some cheap eats at midnight. Downtown I always get the prime rib at least once a trip at the California. There are buy-one-get-one coupons for some food court type places (Venetian, Bally's, New York New York, Monte Carlo, couple of other places) if you're just looking for something really cheap or a snack that I've attached.

If you're there you might as well see a show or two. Most of the Cirque du Soleils are good if you can swing the money. Check out tix4tonight or one of the other bargain ticketing agencies if you want to save some bucks but they usually have designated seating areas in the theater for the half price tickets. If you want better seats/be able to pick your seats directly you might want to just buy regular price at the venue though.

>> No.6644631

If people are bring their cars and what to save money I highly recommend staying at the Silverton. It's not all old and grody yet. And it is a casino and hotel with a huge Bass Pro Shops in it. Its not far from the strip either and its cheap as hell.

>> No.6644710

Eh I'm going to stick to ALA for a few years till Otakon proves that they can make a great con in Vegas. Unless they bring up their ticket prices. >>

>> No.6644713

looks like ALA is on the 10-12 next year
could go to both if you are close enough. maybe it's just me doing 9 hour drives regularly for vacation that makes a 4 hour drive from LA seem short though

>> No.6644724

Otakon in Vegas? What the hell are they thinking? I really hope they don't have a dealers room, because if they do that the gambling oppotunities of las vegas will wipe their wallets clean twice as fast.

It's bad enough that dealers rooms can rape you wallets, it's worse when you host a convention that has a dealers room in a casino.

>> No.6644762

>>6644710

If Ota prime prices go up to fund this shit I'm going to be pissed

>> No.6644783

>>6644762
They haven't. Prereg opened a few days ago and it's at the same price as last year at $70.

>> No.6644951

>>6644783

watch them take massive losses and jack up the prices for next year

>> No.6645224

>>6644572
But at that point you arn't going for otakon. You're going for vegas. Otakon is just an after thought.
I guess it doesn't matter if the convention gets it's money anyways.

>> No.6645243

>>6644261
the con is going to be in the events area which is completely separate from the casino floor

>> No.6645246

>>6644724
why the fuck do you care? idiot.

>> No.6645294

I just got back from Vegas and HHHNNNNGGG I WANNA GO BACK!

It is also way to close to ALA. Looks like a lot of us might have to choose one over the other because I don't think our wallets can handle two cons back to back.

>> No.6645386

>tfw I live in Vegas
>tfw when too shy to go to cons
>tfw crippling social anxiety in large crowds
>tfw the strip is my nightmare

>> No.6645406

>>6645294
I wonder if tripfags ever get tired of pretending ALA is an important event that anyone outside of /cgl/ actually cares about.

>> No.6645526

>>6645406
>what is every single major cosplayer heading to LA in January
>what is every single major photographer and videographer heading to LA in January
>what is no one going to any other con especially that shitfest up in Sacramento

>> No.6645533

I guess the next question is "in a few years, will people be going to ALA or to Otakon Vegas?" A few years in order to establish itself since a lot of people are apprehensive about first year conventions.

>> No.6645722

This sounds like it could be fun years from now, when so many Otakon attendees are there that they take up most of the hotel and I can go to a bar in cosplay, and the whole thing is just a drunk 21+ nerdfest.

Until then, there's going to be so many normal people coming off the strip into the casinos and bars that cosplaying seems like it would be uncomfortable.

>> No.6646011

>>6645526
>Major cosplayers
>Major photographers
>Implying anyone goes to Sacramento
>ALA
>Sac-anime
>Shitvada
>Generic video game convention

These cons ain't fanime/AX, you are all small talk

>> No.6646345

>>6645722

totally, drunk 21+ cons where the majority of the hotel is the con are great, but all the successful ones running on that model are tiny and aren't in the middle of tourist city

>> No.6646384

>>6645526
>this is what ALAfags actually believe

>> No.6646393

>>6644410
Wait really?
... Ooookay then, cool

>> No.6646429

I'm going but not expecting it to be huge or anything. rather it's going to be my excuse for another vegas trip.

It'd be nice if tons of people went but given that the majority of anime congoers are kids and their parents aren't going to be happy taking them to the strip, I don't think this event will ever take off.

Maybe lots of foreign anime fans will show up, since Vegas is a popular tourist destination.

>> No.6646522

Fuck ALA, and their cramped ass tiny hotel, I'm going to Vegas and hopefully the ALA kiddies wont follow cause they're not 21.

Count me in to a con thats not a giant tripfag douchefest

And 109 for a hotel on the strip a night is fantastic

>> No.6646535

I potentially seeing it conflict with ALA, but at the same time. It might actually help out in ALA's favor. ALA's been getting a bit big for it's britches, so it might help if the numbers are reduced just a bit by having people head over to Otakon Vegas.

Talking with a local friend, she says Vegas is TERRIBLE for anime conventions. Otakon Vegas is going to be hurting themselves a bit with it being in Planet Hollywood. Vegas anime conventions biggest demographic are the under 18 crowd. Lord knows there were a ton of 13-16 year olds running around at Anime Vegas. Cons probably going to have pretty low first year numbers unless they have some absolute amazing guests to bring people in. Although depending on how it works out, it could have potential decent numbers since a more experienced convention is working it. Not to mention several people are getting rather tired with ALA and looking for greener pastures.

>> No.6646558

Local, here can't wait. I'll FINALLY be 21 for a con! Where is it gong t be held? I heard a lot of people saying it's right before CES, so I can see it being tricky to get a venue, but CES isn't a consumer event, so I don't see that being a problem for attendance.
>>6643838
keep dreaming, lol. I wish.
>>6644012
True, dat. AX is the best con I've attended, but it's half a year away, it'll be nice to have another.

>> No.6646559

>>6646535
ALA is a tiny con that barely gets 4k people. Nobody cares about it except for brainwashed tripfags from /cgl/ who mostly just want to go there to feel included.

Also, have you ever BEEN to Las Vegas? There are kids all over the place. It's not just for drunken adults who want to gamble. There's something for everyone. And even if you don't like Vegas you can ignore the place completely. You actually think people go to Otakon because they love downtown Baltimore, murder capital of the USA? Please.

>> No.6646581

I want so very much to walk into a club and see it packed with cosplayers. This s now my dream.
>>6644383
Nobosy will give a fuck where you take pictures. You'll probably be stopped by alot of tourists for pics.
>>6644470
I would disagree with you in the since that Vegas=/= the strip. The last AV at cashman was pretty fun, save for that abysmal rave. I have no Idea why they had us line up in a huge warehouse sized room and stuffed a few at a time into a tiny room with one terrible dj.

>> No.6646686

Vegas is cool/cold in Jan. You guys are probably going to want to stay indoors as much as possible. This year was fairly cold, but I've been in worse. Nights were 30s/high 20s. Days 50s

>>6646535
That makes me curious to see just what the age demos are for conventions. How many are sub-18? sub-21? above 21? Wonder if any cons have done such a survey.

>>6646558
it's at the PH. CES just takes the LVCC, the LVH, and part of the Venetian anyway. There's plenty of venues in all the other hotels which have conference rooms. Sands will be taken by SHOT but not for another week and a half.

>> No.6646947

>>6643999
Otakon Vegas confirmed for Zawacon

It's not a boat, but it'll work.

>> No.6647180

>>6644041
CES goer here.

The fact that Otakon got a date so close to that means that it was probably the weekend with the lowest rates for PH and is probably trying to draw in the gadget/tech bloggers coming in and setting up shop that weekend before the show starts.

I'm definitely in for this even though I usually hate going to Vegas. Gives me a weekend to have fun before I really bust ass covering the trade show.

>> No.6647196

btw the con rate for the hotel is actually higher than the non-con rate so don't make that mistake.

>> No.6647215

>>6647196
even cheaper if you stay at the Paris which is the hotel next door, or Bally's, or the Flamingo (half a mile or so)

Flamingo is $44 a night plus taxes hah.

>> No.6647265

>>6647215
oh fuck i shoulda done that. $44/night even on fri/sat?
good thing i can still cancel

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>>6647265
if you're fine walking one block (granted Vegas strip blocks are kind of big), I'd do it. As the price might suggest the Flamingo is one of Caesar's cheaper establishments but hell, $44 a night.

>> No.6647433 [DELETED] 

HOLY SHIT i THINK I MIGHT JUST GO TO VEGAS IN JAN 013 INSTEAD OF DECEMBER 012 NOW

>> No.6647447

>that feel when droves of cosplayers walking along the Vegas Strip making tourists from all over go "wtf?!"

I want to be a part of this.

>> No.6648371

>>6647447
Eh. I've walked on the strip in cosplay for a early morning photoshoot (best time to avoid annoying tourists) and no one even batted an eye. Depending on what day it is, you can probably still see Batman, Hello Kitty, and Woody. Everyone's pretty much used to characters walking along the strip.

>> No.6648374

>>6643782
Eh... I blame part of that on shitty cons.

I'm willing to give it a try.

>> No.6648375

>>6644041
Airfare may be a bitch.

>> No.6648378

>>6645386
Heeey... I live in Vegas, maybe I can help out a bit with that?

>> No.6648382

>>6648371
I enjoy cosplaying on the strip.

>> No.6648855

>>6648371
yeah
i've seen the mario bros, barney, spongebob, and all manner of other characters on the strip. the only thing that might make people go wtf is if you have a big ass crowd of them.

>> No.6648896

>>6648378
omg there's actually other cosplayers here in Vegas? Either of you going to Sabakon in April? I feel super awk and isolated, since I haven't met any other cosplayers since I moved here. =\