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Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:15:05 2013 No.6577277 [DELETED]

I'm trying to make (as in, sew) an otome-kei wardrobe.
(Don't worry, I actually know how to make clothes and how to buy fabric. I won't end up with leg warmers badly made out of towels or anything like that.)

From what I can see, it's American 50s style dresses and basic gathered skirts, with hemlines to the knees, done in what american stores would call children's fabric (with cute pictures), or gingham or plad, or "country" patterns fabrics (with flowers). Is this correct?

What are some good types of shirts to wear with the basic skirts? As in, what are they called so that I can find patterns for them?

I'm in Chicago so it's cold as fuck, are leggings acceptable instead of tights? Or do you think would it be better to knit tights out of wool?

Also I would like some tips on looking... presentable, and comfortable for every day wear. My job is selling crafts online, and I'm an adult - so I don't have school or a job or anything to go to where I have to look professional. But I also don't want people thinking I'm crazy when I go grocery shopping.

Thank you for your time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:17:34 2013 No.6577279 > knit tights out of wool Well I'm sure you'll enjoy them next year as that's about how long it's going to take to make full length tights, knit by hand.

>>	OP Thu Jan 24 10:18:34 2013 No.6577282 >>6577279 Actually, it takes me about 4 days (yes, I've done it before).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:24:04 2013 No.6577290 Watch all studio ghibli movies. Take in the atmosphere. Imagine what it would be like to live in Kiki's delivery service. Make clothes based on this.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:25:34 2013 No.6577291

>>6577279
... not OP, but an experienced knitter could churn out a basic pair (two tubes connected to a brief) in less than two weeks. heels and such might take a little longer, but the only way it could take a year is if she had to harvest the wool hereslf by sneaking into sheep farms at night and shearing them with nair clippers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:35:34 2013 No.6577303 >>6577282 4 days? Do you like not have an actual job?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:37:04 2013 No.6577304 >>6577303 She said in the OP post that she sells crafts online, so maybe she has a lot of free time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:38:34 2013 No.6577305 >>6577291 That's the funniest thing I've read and imagined today.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:43:05 2013 No.6577314 >>6577305 Me too, anon. Me too.

>>	OP Thu Jan 24 10:46:05 2013 No.6577318 >>6577303 Nope. Like I said I sell crafts - basically I spend most of my day knitting, crocheting, and sewing. And I generally take a knitting project with me everywhere and knit at red lights, while waiting for trains, waiting in checkout lines, etc. etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:50:04 2013 No.6577322 Are you/have you worn Lolita?

>>	OP Thu Jan 24 10:56:34 2013 No.6577328 >>6577322 No

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 10:57:34 2013 No.6577329

>>6577318
Do you have a web shop? You sound so cute and you are living the dream, I want to help if I can.

Sorry about the Otome part, by the way - I know nothing about it. Hope someone who knows it better will come and clarify things.
If that doesn't happen, may I suggest saying "fuck you" to the the overall rules and just watch pictures of the style and creating from that?

>>	OP Thu Jan 24 11:24:34 2013 No.6577377 >>6577329 Yeah, but hopefully you'll understand, I don't like posting it on 4chan. Sorry ^^

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 24 11:27:35 2013 No.6577382 >>6577377 Ah, yes, I though you'd say that. Still worth the shot, though! I hope you'll succeed, OP-chan~

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:05:35 2013 No.6577462

OP, otome is a very broad and vague term. It's not so much about the individual pieces but more about the outfit as a whole. As long as the overall feel is cute and feminine (otome from the word meaning 'maiden') then it will work. There's no real specific rules about the style other than that.

You can look at some popular otome-kei brands to get an idea of what kinds of stuff they produce. Emily Temple Cute, MILK, Jane Marple, etc. Generally seems like dresses and skirts are more popular in otome (for that feminine feel I suppose) and while tights are more popular, leggings would definitely still work as long as you kept the right feel to the outfit.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 12:11:06 2013 No.6577479

>>6577318
>while waiting for trains

this is the nice thing about all the trains in chicago, right? when i was in college and stopped by a train (my dad lives in the suburbs, so i would drive up to visit often and have to cross like 3 busy rail lines) i would study. i guess i should take up knitting again because lately i've been bored stiff waiting at railroad crossings.

i think you'll be fine with leggings though. leggings+boots look the same as tights+boots anyway. claire's sells fleece tights that are really warm also, but they only have like 3 colours of them. or what i do (it's a bit bulky though) is wear thick knit tights or thermal underwear under a pair of regular tights. it doesn't look terribly strange under a dress, especially a longer one.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:25:05 2013 No.6577674
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As said earlier, OP, otome is more about the feel of the outfit rather than the actual pieces. There aren't really concrete rules.
It's cute and feminine, with a sort of whimsical, fairytale feeling to it. Oftentimes, there are almost-clashing-but-not-quite colors, patterns, and motifs. Dresses and skirts are most popular, but pants and shorts can work. Peter pan collars, small hairbows, cute hats, low cute heels and boots, patterned socks and tights (yes, knit tights will very much work). Popular motifs are deer, flowers, fruit, lately cats (although these are popular all over Japan right now). Kind of kitschy prints.
Otome can overlap with a lot of styles, like lolita, himkaji (a style of gyaru), and twee (a style in the West).

This is my favorite otome tumblr:
http://fuckyeahotomekei.tumblr.com/
There's also this one:
http://otomemaiden.tumblr.com
And this one:
http://otomestyle.tumblr.com/

Check out the following brands for inspiration:
Emily Temple cute, Shirley Temple, Emily Temple Lulu (the above three are the same overarching company), Milk, Jane Marple, axes femme
Some brand tumblrs:
http://emilytemplecute.tumblr.com/
http://axesfemme.tumblr.com

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:42:05 2013 No.6577725
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Hey OP, do you mind if I dump the otome-kei I have? Like others have said the fashion isn't as regimented as say, Lolita where there are so much as rules but guidelines to achieve an overall look. It sort of seems like you need a basic wardrobe of dresses and skirts that aren't pencil, tights and some cardigans. Maybe a cute blazer. Specific patterns don't matter as much, but you don't want anything that's very busy since otome tends to lean towards 'elegant' in its aesthetic.

I to am also trying to build up a wardrobe in the fashion and it's a little slow-going. Also rather cold here right now.

Anonymous Thu Jan 24 13:53:05 2013 No.6577739

Hey OP, I wear lolita/otome in Chicago too. I think leggings are perfectly acceptable with otome, as for dresses using warm knit fabrics will be very beneficial to you. Try thermal knits and cute patterned knits cut into easy swishy circle dresses, otome brands do many dresses like that.

Layering cute sweaters and cardigans under your main winter coat will keep you warmer while also having layers you can wear inside when you take off your winter coat, and since you knit and crochet you can make your own as well as cute scarves and such to match your outfits.

I'd love to see examples of the things you make for this!

>>	OP Thu Jan 24 14:23:05 2013 No.6577784 Thanks for the tips everyone!! >>6577725 Yes please do!

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 16:16:23 2013 No.6580620 File: 79 KB, 450x720, 1330811202888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6577784 Okay!

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 16:32:53 2013 No.6580666 Otome is so ugly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 16:37:53 2013 No.6580684 >>6580666 You are so ugly

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 16:47:53 2013 No.6580708 File: 109 KB, 377x750, balbunnies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6580635 I love those two white coverups. So cute.

>>	Badr !KuHbpirZVI Fri Jan 25 17:30:54 2013 No.6580801 >>6580635 that coverup on the far right....where is it from

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 18:48:54 2013 No.6580951 >>6580801 I don't know where that one is from but you can probably find light, cotton dresses a lot of places. I bet a lot of the cotton dresses on Taobao would work like that. Just wear another dress under it in place of a slip.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 19:03:24 2013 No.6580964 File: 96 KB, 453x1005, 091a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have a few otome/cute-kei pics too. I'll dump them. I don't know if it's what OP's looking for, though. 01/28

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 19:05:24 2013 No.6580967 File: 170 KB, 433x750, hgg7854u0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 02/28

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 19:08:23 2013 No.6580974 File: 53 KB, 357x511, 29348js.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 04/28 This is cling123.tumblr.com, OP. You should definitely check her out. She has the most amazing otome wardrobe.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 19:18:53 2013 No.6580988 File: 136 KB, 420x630, 923u7jd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 08/28 I have to go to bed now. I'll dump the rest later if anyone's interested.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 19:26:24 2013 No.6580998 File: 291 KB, 303x750, 1357241843964.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gonna dump some otome/casual lolita because it's my favorite style as well! Aside from gothic, of course.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 19:28:23 2013 No.6581007 File: 143 KB, 426x640, tumblr_mbb6o38T8g1qm4j2uo1_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6581003 i really like this one

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 19:48:23 2013 No.6581037 >>6577291 I lol'ed at this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:05:23 2013 No.6581076 File: 370 KB, 2274x1270, 1357604176975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6581010 sorry for disappearing for a while!

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:09:23 2013 No.6581087 >>6580661 oh man if I had a girlfriend like her, I'd treat her like a princess every day ;_;

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>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:18:24 2013 No.6581104 File: 173 KB, 358x478, tumblr_m7mzsarhgy1qb2cvko1_400.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6581102 I'm going to go take the dogs out for a run in the snow! I think that's all I have, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:33:54 2013 No.6581123 >>6581076 Oh my~ Sometimes I even consider stop eating so I could buy more ETC.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:42:53 2013 No.6581142 >>6581104 /cgl/ why won't girls love me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:44:23 2013 No.6581151 >>6581142 You're probably ugly or a jerk. Most dudes are.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:46:23 2013 No.6581154 >>6581151 i'm not a jerk at all i just want to love someone : (

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 25 20:47:24 2013 No.6581159 File: 55 KB, 690x795, 006.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6581154 >: ( Stop derailing the thread you piece of fuck.

Anonymous Fri Jan 25 21:23:13 2013 No.6581296

>>6581142
Most girls need confident men. Maybe because most of them are insecure, maybe because they just want a prince that can protect them *if* they eventually need protection. Idk, there could be a lot of reasons for that, but it's probably just because confident people are more interesting. So... Are you secure about yourself? Are you ok with your body? Do you enjoy your job and your hobbies as much as you should?
I guess the first step would be to stop crying over how you hate your life or why girls won't like you - it's actually very annoying. Then, start taking care of yourself both mentally and physically; read good books, take walks on the park, eat healthily, buy nice clothes... When you begin to feel good with yourself, that's when you'll be ready to make someone happy. Eventually, nice girls will notice you.
I hope that helped. Now gtfo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 15:20:35 2013 No.6582566 File: 32 KB, 260x750, 1330812077503.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6580661 Sorry I disappeared! School stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 15:21:06 2013 No.6582567 File: 61 KB, 300x582, 1330812706600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6582566 Oh and if I double post, sorry.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 15:44:35 2013 No.6582619 >>6582578 Did she make a wardrobe post?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 15:49:05 2013 No.6582627 File: 17 KB, 400x300, 1330829674172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6582615 What.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 15:50:35 2013 No.6582629 File: 439 KB, 857x1707, 1334719577172.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6582619 No idea. I thought someone said she wasn't as active anymore?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 15:52:36 2013 No.6582633 otome = lolita without petticoats??

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:08:05 2013 No.6582669 >>6582631 Does anyone know if this skirt has a name?

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:10:35 2013 No.6582671
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>>6582633
Sort of. There's a lot of overlap with certain subsets of Lolita (which is why some move on to otome after Lolita since the pieces tends to be similar) but it's not as rule oriented. I know it's been compared to Country and Casual Lolita in previous threads, but it's still not either specifically.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:21:05 2013 No.6582686

>>6582669
As with most ETC items, it's probably just called something generic like "tartan check frill skirt". Not very helpful.

>>6582633
There are plenty of things worn in otome that you would not see in lolita. It has a much wider span of styles, materials, patterns and garments. It is more about achieving a specific feeling than adhering to rules or following a strict set of guidelines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:24:05 2013 No.6582692 >>6582686 I wondered. Maybe someone could tell me when it was released, then? I really love that blue tartan.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:32:06 2013 No.6582699

>>6582692
ETC (and also Jane Marple) has released this colour of tartan several times, I'm afraid I don't know when this specific skirt came out (maybe someone else does?). The specific check/blue tartan is called Anderson tartan though, if you feel like looking up anything else in it! I'm personally very fond of it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:44:05 2013 No.6582710 >>6582699 I'm looking it up and I already like the results. Thank you for being such a sweetie and taking your time to answer me, anon.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 16:48:05 2013 No.6582716

do you think that otome is wearable in a college setting? I'm in community college now and I'm going to a university in the fall. I really love otome but I don't want to attract too much attention to myself. Everyone in my area just wears leggings, sweatshirts, and uggs, so I don't know what's considered fashionable and what's considered weirdo territory.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 17:08:36 2013 No.6582743

>>6582716

Totally feel you anon. Luckily I'm on a campus where everyone tends to dress nicely, but when I go back for Xmas I get stared at if I go so much in a flowery skirt. Best tip I can give is meh it. You're not going in full lolita or ganguro gyaru, it's actually quite subtle. Heck, you might even get a few compliments for having a 'cute vintage' look by some hipsters. If you're not that confident, start subtly by going with not so OTT skirts, then work your way up. That's how I did it when I started wearing cutesy things to school and such.

TL;DR: don't sweat it. I think otome is totally wearable even in that sort of setting.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 17:13:35 2013 No.6582750

>>6582743
Thanks! The truth is I'm not very confident and I want to start dressing cutely but I also really don't want to draw attention to myself. But, I think lately I've decided that being happy with myself is more important to me than going unnoticed. I'll do my best, thanks for your advice.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 17:17:35 2013 No.6582752

>>6582750

Ah, no problem. I'm just glad I could help. I'm that way as well, so I can definitely see where you're coming from. I definitely dress for myself more than for others, so at least for me, if I keep that in the forefront of my mind, I find it's easier to deflect comments about my dress. It seems like you're going on the same line of thought, so I thought I might just throw it out there. In any case, I hope you really enjoy the fashion and good luck with school!

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 18:50:35 2013 No.6582926
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>>6582716
Totally! To be honest the way it generally works is that you have people in college who care about how they dress and then people who don't. And no one cares about other people regardless (tho I judge girls who wear those loose crop tops. With only a bra underneath. Ew.) I'd start wearing dresses now only it's cold and my dresses are more summer-y.

Just dress how you like and fuck the haters.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 19:55:35 2013 No.6583079 >>6581098 Why this isn't lolita? Yes, I'm new.

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 20:04:35 2013 No.6583111

>>6583079
imagine it with a softer petti (I think the one she is wearing is a little too poofy for otome) and you'll notice it's not as mitchy matchy as loli (no dark brown on the bottom for example) and it's more... flowly/loose? I dunno... hard to explain especially since I think that petti is throwing you off on the otome visual.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 20:08:36 2013 No.6583122 >>6583079 What above said, also the shoes are a little more mature feeling than loli shoes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 20:11:36 2013 No.6583137 >>6583111 I guess I get what you're trying to say... If the tights were dark brown, colors would be balanced, so it'd be lolita? Basically, what makes it "otome" is the color scheme?

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 20:13:37 2013 No.6583143

>>6582716
Yeah. Even in cc, people start to care less and accept more. I went to uni in a big city, and almost every girl in my class wore high heels to school, even in the middle of a snow storm. Back home, people stare at me for wearing a skirt that isn't a jean mini-skirt. Older people really like the way I dress, though.

Anyway, if you attract attention at cc from girls who dress like slobs, you shouldn't care. I dress otome to work and cc (taking more classes even though I graduated college already).

Anonymous Sat Jan 26 20:14:06 2013 No.6583146

>>6583137
no, it's the overall feel to it... the hair is a bit messy, the make up is very very toned down and natural, like >>6583122 said about the shoes, just an overall more mature and natural feel to it? Now if she changed out the shoes/tights and did something with her makeup and hair it could be lolita, yes. Though the over all color scheme of the dark browns with that dress still says Otome to me.

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>>6583122
Are they? They look like those shoes every Lolita has that I hate... but otherwise what >>6583111 said. As what has been said before, there is overlap between the styles. Otome has a tendancy to look more 'grown up' overall in comparison.

>>6583137
Yes. Otome seem to take bigger risks with color scheme overall in comparison to Lolita.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 20:51:37 2013 No.6583293 >>6577277 I've found cynthia rowley 2215 a good dress pattern for otome, it's east to adjust the bodice as you'd like and make the skirt fuller.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 21:05:34 2013 No.6583364 anyone have otome with pants/jeans?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 21:12:36 2013 No.6583396 File: 32 KB, 260x400, tumblr_mgikk4tiap1rr3qm8o1_400.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6583364 It's not as common, but I think it is possible so long as it looks... feminine. This is the only I have and only recently seen.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 22:59:07 2013 No.6583648 >>6583154 Compared to tea party shoes or chunky platforms covered in bows, yes they are.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 26 23:08:08 2013 No.6583663 >>6582619 Yes she did.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 01:38:08 2013 No.6583903 File: 107 KB, 480x768, o0480076812026076351.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gonna dump some otome.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 01:46:08 2013 No.6583928 File: 235 KB, 724x492, 15_keitavivid.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love these kinds of shots.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 02:17:38 2013 No.6584000 File: 103 KB, 380x824, IMG_1329.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I grow weary so that's all for today.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 27 15:40:06 2013 No.6584790 is there an otome community similar to daily_lolita anywhere?

Anonymous Mon Jan 28 03:21:03 2013 No.6586631

I'm after the name/pics of an ETC biker jacket that is black and white check with a swirly ETC logo on the back (I think it was surrounded by music notes?)
I cant for the life of me find it anywhere online after seeing it a while back.
Any help would be appreciated!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 03:30:32 2013 No.6586638 >>6584790 There's a dailyotome but it's not really active.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 28 07:30:32 2013 No.6586802 >>6584790 Thw problem with otome is there really isnt a comm unity for it. Add least the western side. I think it because it's closely linked to other styles like lolita and a lot of girls use the style as a 'filler'

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