Tattoos in cosplay

[Anonymous No.6458298]

So, for my next con I'm going to be doing 2 fairly open back costumes, and I have a (rather large) tattoo on my back between my shoulder blades. Normally its covered by my clothing or wigs, but one of my costumes has a short wig that doesn't reach my shoulders. Should I cover up the tattoo with make up, or just hope the photographer covers it with their magic wand in photoshop? Normally showing my tattoos wouldn't bother me, but its a ball gown so I feel like the tattoo might look a little vulgar. (pic related - its my tattoo)

Also, general cosplay related tattoo thread?

[Anonymous No.6458302]

If you want your tattoo to be covered up in photos anyway, just cover it with concealer. It's not that difficult

[Anonymous No.6458307]

kat von d concealer
/thread

[Anonymous No.6458311]

>>6458307
I had considered using that in the past for job interviews, etc but haven't heard much about it from anyone. Does it really work?

[Obasu !!++TjZVQQYgt No.6458312]

Get Dermablend, it is the best concealer I've ever had. They have stuff that is made for covering tattoos.
http://www.dermablend.com/

[Anonymous No.6458317]

I have a tattoo on my right hip. All my cosplays so far cover it but IDK if I'd get comments that possibly show it. I forget I even have it sometimes.

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.6458323]

>>6458317
comments about costumes that possibly show it*

Sorry typing error.

[Anonymous No.6458332]

>>6458317

Anon: that picture seems familiar for some reason: did you use to trip at all? If not, my bad.

Sage for off-topic.

[Anonymous No.6458397]

I wanna get a tattoo from Rouge Agerie's fabric on my side. My tattoo tastes tend towards fairy tales. I have a Tim Burton pincushion on my neck.

[Anonymous No.6458470]

>>6458397
I like the design! Although the part with the eel coming out of the skull reminds me of the Death Eater symbol in HP.

[Anonymous No.6458473]

>>6458317

you'd get more comments on the tits than the tat

[Anonymous No.6458477]

[Anonymous No.6458480]

>>6458477
>attentionwhore tattoo's

That angers me more than anything else.

[Anonymous No.6458488]

>>6458473
i agree. i admit to staring at them for a while, though i'm a relatively straight female.

[Anonymous No.6458496]

[Anonymous No.6458549]

[Anonymous No.6458717]

>>6458480
Actually, I kind of like them. Not something I'd get myself though.

[Anonymous No.6458721]

>>6458298
that is some tragic line work, op. :/ Damn. I hope you get that cleaned up, or else I would consider covering it up every day.

[Anonymous No.6458835]

Damn that is a shitty tattoo.

[Anonymous No.6458840]

>>6458717

This is quite beautiful, but I would never get a tattoo myself.

OP's tattoo is hideous, sorry OP.

[Anonymous No.6459184]

>>6458397
Excuse my derping, but google-fu is failing me. Do you have a link to whoever prints/sells that fabric? Much thanks

[Anonymous No.6459187]

Whoever did you tattoo needs to have their machine taken away from them

>not centered
>lines are wobbly as fuck

It looks more like the whataburger w

[Anonymous No.6459189]

>>6459184
She said it in the post: Rouge Aerie
I don't think she has this design up on spoonflower though.

[Anonymous No.6459191]

>>6458477
She looks dirty... like she slept in her makeup then reapplied next morning.

[Anonymous No.6459192]

Why isn't /cgl/ freaking out because of Lobi's tattoo?

[Anonymous No.6459203]

>>6459192
That looks cute and well done, but where is it?

[Anonymous No.6459204]

>>6459203
I didn't save the other picture but it's on her hip.

[Anonymous No.6459214]

eugh, tattoos

friend tried so hard to make me get one. so very glad i didn't

[Anonymous No.6459215]

>>6459214
Why, so you can feel like a special snowflake and brag about something you DIDN'T DO?

[Anonymous No.6459226]

>>6459215
You're absolutely right. I am a special snowflake because I DON'T get tattoos. That makes so much more sense than the fact that 99% of tattoos generally look like ass.

[Anonymous No.6459231]

>>6459214
The idea of someone trying to make you get a tattoo really baffles me. I had no idea that happened.
I have tattoos, but they were all 100% my choice and no one ever said anything like "omg you should get a tattoo to be cool!" to me.

[Anonymous No.6459234]

>>6459189
http://rouge-aerie.com/
She took it off Spoonflower to re-work the fabric design. But it'll be back uup.

[Enver !!52WOxLC+CKW No.6459258]

>>6458298
>hiding weezer
What kind of fan are you

[Anonymous No.6459290]

>>6459258
lol just realized how similar Wonder Woman and Weezer logos are

[Anonymous No.6459335]

>>6459192
Because it's cute and it's Lion King.

[Anonymous No.6459419]

>>6459226
If you're a fucking moron and have zero idea what to look for in a good tattoo, sure.

Enjoy being ignorant and judgmental.

[Anonymous No.6459431]

that tattoo is fucking horrible and your necklace turned your skin green, making you look greasy and dirty.

[Anonymous No.6459438]

Sorry but that tattoo is awful. I'm sure a good tattoo artist can fix it up to make it look better though. You should invest in that

>Captcha = away

[Anonymous No.6459469]

>>6459431
>>6459438
It looks like it was made with crayola markers and runny mustard.

[Anonymous No.6459480]

Wow OP. I hope you didn't pay for this because it's pretty abysmal. You should probably invest in getting it cleaned up or covered.

[Anonymous No.6459482]

>>6458298
I'd like to think you're trolling us OP with that tat. But please see a professional and get that fixed up.

And take off your necklace girl! Jeez it's freaking corroding onto your neck and leaving blue.

[Anonymous No.6459532]

>>6459419
Which is, unfortunately, still a good descriptor of the majority of people who get tattoos.

[Anonymous No.6459537]

[Anonymous No.6459541]

[Anonymous No.6459584]

Why would you get a huge back tattoo if you have bacne?

[Anonymous No.6459595]

OP's got nothing on this piece of shit. Done by lemonbrat-limebarb, yes, of commissioning infamy. she did it on her assistant. this should prevent anyone from ever commissioning from her. if she can't draw a straight line how can she sew one?

[Anonymous No.6459602]

>>6459419
You sound upset.

Post your tattoo?

[Anonymous No.6459626]

>>6459419
What reality do you live in where it makes a difference whether a tattoo is good or not? It's still trashy + tasteless as fuck, and aside from that, there are a number of other reasons top-tier modeling companies rarely hire girls with ink.

The only time a "good tattoo" will get you ahead in the industry is if you work for a shit site like suicidegirls. But even then, two of the best and most well-known alt models are completely tattooless. Take that as you will

[Anonymous No.6459639]

>>6458311
>"job interviews"
>implying you will ever get hired with a shitty tattoo

[Anonymous No.6459646]

>>6459584
>>6458298
OP needs some proactive for dat bacne

[Anonymous No.6459710]

>>6459626
Apnea is a very well known alt model and she has loads of tats.

[Anonymous No.6459738]

I tried to get something that I could cover easily, I never really wear anything that exposes my chest. The others are right, though. There are plenty of concealer a out there that work. You'll just have to have someone stand behind you and work on it for you, since I doubt you'll be able to reach well enough.

On a different note, what is the basic consensus here on getting tattoos as part of an emotional healing process, or for a cause? I know it's kind of pretentious, but in my case getting a tattoo helped me a lot with something I was having trouble dealing with.

[Anonymous No.6459776]

>>6459595
Holy shit, please tell me that's not a real tattoo.

[Anonymous No.6459781]

>>6459626

Maybe when you're old enough to get a tattoo, you'll realize that lots of people have them, professionals and trash alike.

[Anonymous No.6459787]

>>6459781
Enough said.

[Anonymous No.6459789]

>>6459781
Stay mad about your shitty life choices

[Anonymous No.6459798]

>>6459789

What I'm more concerned about is how angry YOU are over something that doesn't affect you at all?

[Anonymous No.6459802]

>>6459798
I'm sorry, please point out where I am angry?

[Anonymous No.6459805]

>>6459738
I don't have a tattoo, but scars I got from years of physical abuse from my parents and they're in really obvious places. I used to feel like a freak because of them, but after years of therapy and incredible patience from my new family, I have learned to accept them. I had spent years lying about them to people, citing an accident, but now it almost feels good to tell people honestly about their origin. For a long period of time, I was thinking of getting tattoos and I'm still thinking about it.

So yeah, for some people it's for the best to get a tattoo and I really understand the things you've been through. Even if they were different from mine.

[Anonymous No.6459809]

>>6459798
>>6459802
Holy shit could you guys just fucking stop.
Some people like tattoos, some people don't.
You shouldn't judge anyone on how they look, but some people do.
It's life, get over it.

[smoker !Umad72YCVU No.6459813]

Im so confused OP.

[Anonymous No.6459816]

>>6459809
>2012
>not judging people based on physical appearance

[Anonymous No.6459826]

>>6459809
>>6459816

[Anonymous No.6459830]

>>6459809
>>6459816
>>6459826

[Anonymous No.6459834]

>>6459639
>have a good job
>have tattoos
>have piercings
>yfw

Stay mad bro. You'll find in the business world that most people don't give a fuck about tattoos or piercings so long as they're not offensive. Sure, if you want to be a model or kawaii idoru then tattoos may hold you back but honestly, employers don't care about them now as much as they did 10 years ago. They used to specifically ask if you had any. now it's just a case of them hiring you and THEN saying "oh yeah, any tattoos? Cool, as long as it's not a naked nun getting fucked by a cross then we're cool". An employer most likely would never say that but hopefully you get what I mean.

OP, that tattoo is terrible. Cover it and keep it covered.

[Anonymous No.6459837]

>>6459816

I bet Jolene thinks he's cute.

[Anonymous No.6459846]

>>6459834
different anon, but where do you work? Do you cover up your tattoos while you are on the clock? Do you remove your piercings? Where are the piercings and tattoos? What is your annual salary?

[Anonymous No.6459848]

>>6459846
this is also assuming people would never anonymously lie on the internet

[Anonymous No.6459850]

>>6459846

I'm not that anon, but I work in a lobbying firm in DC and I have a medium-sized shoulder tattoo you can see when I wear most dresses and quite a lot of piercings on my ears. Another guy in my office has visible tattoos on his arms. No one cares and DC is one of the most superficial professional cities you can find. As long as you can cover it in a suit, you're good.

[Pirate Toaster !0fXzzt0xCc No.6459851]

>>6459834
I know a lot of food places don't allow tattoos on show, tasteful or not. Pizza Hut don't even let their delivery drivers have on-show tattoos afaik. I think it's silly tbh.

[Anonymous No.6459856]

>>6459834
>have a good job
Walmart? KFC?

[Anonymous No.6459863]

>>6459850
>As long as you can cover it in a suit, you're good.

So you agree then that tattoos have no place in a professional environment?

[Anonymous No.6459879]

>>6459805

That's actually a big part of why I got it. I got to the point where a big part of healing had to be uncovering the truth. It's also for my grandmother, and other women in my family who went through the same thing. A lotus was a good way to describe the women in my family, because we "hold our heads above the water no matter how murky or deep it gets." I must sound incredibly obnoxious to talk about it like this, but you're right. When people ask me about the tattoo, I bring up the abuse, and it makes me feel a little better. It was a big healing thing for me.

I think there are a lot of similar things you can do without tattoos, though. To me, that worked best, but I've met girls who wear specific jewelry, keep their most noticeable scars uncovered, etc.

[Anonymous No.6459893]

I went to school with this guy, I wish he would have waited a little longer to get fucking ridiculous tattoo's. He just turned 18 probably a couple weeks ago. All the scene kids pander to him.


also he has a bad shark tattoo on his other cheek.

[Anonymous No.6459896]

>>6459863

No. I think that having face/neck/hand tattoos may make the job of being a lobbyist difficult because you are talking to judgmental old men all day. Within the office, and many offices, having visible tattoos is not a big deal and I think being able to clean-up nice is something most jobs look for. I think tattoos in general and face tattoos are completely different issues and I'm not sure why you're so upset about this.

[Anonymous No.6459900]

>>6459893

Oh my word, that is horrific.

[Anonymous No.6459918]

>>6459846
I'm a team leader for a utility company. Not the biggest and best of jobs but it's a managerial position, so better than nothing. I have tattoos on both arms and legs, so they're covered if I wear dark tights/suit jackets but if I don't then it's no big deal. I have facial piercings that I remove or hide, and I have my ears pierced. Also have a dermal on my wrist. I'd rather not discuss my salary, I get a decent wage and an uncapped bonus, that's about all I'm willing to say.

[Anonymous No.6459919]

>>6459893
excuse me , I meant on a shark on his forehead. It's not the tattoo that bothers me the most, it's that everyone sucks up to him tilling him "OMG THAT'S SO EPIC, YOLO!"

[Anonymous No.6459928]

>>6459896
My question is, if your tattoo is on your shoulder, what kind of dress code does your firm have that lets you walk around with your shoulders bare?

Maybe it's because this is the South, but they gave me a warning at my law firm for wearing a long sleeved sweater dress. Perhaps rules vary from region to region, but based on this, I would say that the office you work isn't as professional as you make it out to be.

Also, please point out where I am angry?

[Anonymous No.6460007]

>>6459893
>>6459919
I actually love tattoos even though I have none, but right now I am laughing so hard.
That's just ridiculous and on top of that those tattoos looks terrible. Like an elementary school kid made them with a sharpie.

[Anonymous No.6460009]

>>6458480
All tattoos are attention whore tattoos

[Anonymous No.6460019]

>>6459893

Looks like he paid 50 bucks for that piece of rubbish. Special points to him for that ear piercing that looks like it's nearly ripped. What a fool.

[Pirate Toaster !0fXzzt0xCc No.6460024]

>>6460019
Jesus fucking Christ why did you have to point out his ear? I wonder how long it'll be until he regrets it all?...

[Anonymous No.6460055]

I have a big tattoo on my arm, it stops just above the elbow, and another fairly big one on my back. Most people don't even know i have tattoos as i always wear shit that covers my arms and back.
The only time it has been a problem was for certain cosplays where i have either covered up with make up or just take photos from angles where you cant see them

[HelloNurse No.6460069]

>>6460024
When he finally saves up for the surgery to fix that nasty hole.

[Anonymous No.6460083]

>>6459928
Lots of women wear sleeveless tops, often under jackets. So long as it's a nice blouse generally, who cares if you show your shoulders in your own office? I've been to a lot of law firms as my parents are lawyers, and the dress code is all over the place. Some people wear jeans and shorts unless it's a trial day. Some wear suits all the time. Just depends.

[Anonymous No.6460091]

>>6459928

Ever heard of dresses and blouses? Seriously, get a job and calm down. There's gotta be something more important to you than shitting on other people's tattoos and workplaces.

[Anonymous No.6460154]

>>6460024
I get the feeling he won't live long enough to see that day.

[Anonymous No.6460167]

...Whataburger?

[Anonymous No.6460422]

>>6458477
GOD all of her tattoos are horrid what the everloving fuck.

[Anonymous No.6460463]

How come people with tattoos are so easily offended?

Yes, people are insulting you and being mean, but you should expect that when you go out of your way to make yourselves look like disgusting trailer park trash.

[Anonymous No.6460489]

OP I hope that was a free tattoo. That line and shading work is super shitty.

[Anonymous No.6460496]

People like to blame tattoos and things for not being able to get a good job, but in reality if you're too good to turn down they will not give two shits what you have on your skin.

BF's eldest brother literally has a suit of tattoos, earns over £50K a year and lives in one of the most expensive areas in London.

[Anonymous No.6460505]

>>6460496
That's because England is for dirty cunts.

[Anonymous No.6460519]

>>6460463
Don't quite agree with trailer park trash though some tattoos are dreadully stereotypical (a butterfly? On your hip? Aren't you so unique and special!)

But they should acknowledge that people are going to judge them for it. Pro tip, you're altering yourself and therefore look DIFFERENT from the majority. Much like how people will judge you for how you dress or your hair style, you will be judged for tattoos and piercings.

Are they more accepted now? Sure. But there's a stereotype attached to them that a lot of people still see. Girls with lower back tattoos are tramps, people with tattoos on their faces or hands are probably not people you want to do business with, etc.

Just accept it, you're making a life choice, there will be consequences you may not like. You may be passed over for jobs that want a more "professional" look about you, people will make assumptions about your intelligence or other aspects of your personality, and guess what? You go into this life choice KNOWING that is how people are viewed with those alterations and therefore can't bitch when you make a dumb choice.

But enjoy those fairy wings on your back, or the stars behind your ear, you unique little person.

Inb4 "YOU HATE TATTOOS", I have two of them. I just put them places no one sees unless I want them to.

[Anonymous No.6460552]

>>6458298
Your tattoo is ridiculously ugly. Like, I'm not even trying to shit on you but honestly? It just looks try hard and gross. Do you really truly love wonder woman or whatever that much? and why do you appear to have yet another tattoo right near it? That's poor planning and looks sloppy/crowded.

I like back tattoos, Id like one myself. Just not plastered all over my upper back so that I can never NOT wear a jacket in a job for the rest of my life. And can I just say how truly disgusting chest piece tattoos are? I remember everyone acting like that girl starpowerrr's was really cute, but even hers was disgusting. They just look like giant cum targets. Nothing tells me that a girl has desperate mental/social issues as much as a chest piece tattoo does.

[Anonymous No.6460570]

I don't understand why people care about other people's tattoos. Different strokes paint the world.

[Anonymous No.6460699]

>>6460519
Please explain to me how getting a tattoo is a dumb choice?

[Anonymous No.6460718]

>>6460519
Tldr; stereotypical tattoos are dumb and you should try to atleast be unique or have some good reason for getting a tattoo. People will judge you based on what you get and where.


I'm getting a drunk ghandi on my right ass cheek. Therefor I am unique. Therefor speshil. Plebs.

[Anonymous No.6460724]

>>6460552
>They just look like giant cum targets.
I'm okay with this.

[Anonymous No.6460746]

Nobody else feels like OP is a troll?
Nobody?
That is a terrible fucking tattoo and I refuse to believe someone would want to show it off.

[Anonymous No.6460764]

>>6460083
>"my parents are lawyers"
Hey everybody, let's take this person's advice on tattoos in the workplace. After all, they have been to ONE LAW OFFICE IN THEIR ENTIRE LIFE and "the dress code is all over the place." Go ahead and get that tat! Just remember, I ordered the extra value meal with onion rings.

[Anonymous No.6460778]

Poor OP.
>got a tattoo of her favorite super gal
>(probably)paid a reasonable amount
>take it to fellow geeks on the internet for advice
>>6460746
She probably gets shit from everyone else, too. It's not so bad OP, watch tattoo nightmares, they beautify some of the worst tattos I've ever seen.

[Anonymous No.6460776]

>>6460699
Getting a tattoo is a choice, do it up. But expect some people to judge you on it, is what I'm saying.

I'll never tell anyone to NOT get a tattoo. Get it. But don't give a shit if someone else doesn't like it. It's YOUR tattoo, the only person that has to like it is you. It's people who give such a metric shit that other people don't like their tattoos that bother me. Mine are hidden because if someone doesn't like it, I don't want to hear it. If I ever got one on easily visible skin, I'd be ready for comments on it both negative and positive and I wouldn't have a fit if someone didn't like it, I would just tell them that it's their opinion and I respect they feel that way.

>>6460718
Never said you have to be unique or have a good reason for it, but you gotta expect people to pass judgement.

My first tattoo was spur of the moment and has no meaning past "My sister took me to her friend's parlor and said pick something I'll pay for it". I've had people who've seen it ask about it and pass judgement, and because I don't give a shit what other people think of it, it doesn't bother me when they don't like it.

tl;dr people are going to judge your tattoos, stop caring so much, or if you give a shit, get them where other people don't see them unless you want them to.

[Anonymous No.6460781]

In what professional context (outside of a strip club) are you going to see someone's back tattoo?

[Anonymous No.6460783]

>>6460776
So, in your mind, if getting a tattoo is a stupid choice, you made a stupid choice.

[Anonymous No.6460785]

>>6460776
Exactly. Not everyone needs public approval or cares what other people think. My goal in life is to get to a point where I can make mad money despite having tons of piercings and tattoos, because I like the aesthetic. I'm lucky enough to have a job where I can do that.

[Anonymous No.6460789]

>>6460783
Your point? People make stupid choices all the time, I'm not perfect. I just happen to like my stupid choice and it doesn't affect my day to day life as no one else can see it.

Not like I tattooed a shark to my forehead.

[Anonymous No.6460794]

>>6460785
Where do you work?

[Anonymous No.6460798]

>>6459919
I found his soulmate.

[Anonymous No.6460806]

>>6460764
I've actually been to at least 20 different law firms, I worked at my mom's for several months and delivered documents to other lawyers, so yea.
The dress code varies by the office and it's policies. Some have secretaries and occasionally lawyers with visible piercings and tattoos. Some are very traditional. Just saying that not every office with automatically not hire someone for having body mods. It's not the end of the world anymore.

[Anonymous No.6460820]

>>6460083
>So long as it's a nice blouse generally, who cares if you show your shoulders in your own office?
>YOUR OWN OFFICE
Sure, if you are the owner of the office, feel free to set your own rules. Just saiyan, shit that shows off your arms and legs aint going to win you friends in an office environment.

>>6460091
>Ever heard of dresses and blouses?
Read: showing skin the office makes you look like a floozy (not the good kind), and even though no one says it, we're all thinking it.
>Seriously, get a job and calm down.
Someone cannot into reading comprehension.
a) I already have a job, b) Please point out where I am angry? All the white trash keeps parroting this, but never answers my question.

>>6459918
>implying being a "team leader", not even a manager, is a professional position worthy to brag about

[Anonymous No.6460825]

>>6460789
But give me a reason of why it is a stupid choice. All you did was bitch about judging people which is going to happen whether they know you have a tattoo or not.

Conclusion: Your opinion is shit and you should feel bad.

[Anonymous No.6460834]

>>6460806
Sooo...you wouldn't have any issue wearing this court, along with your tats and piercings?

[Anonymous No.6460839]

>>6460834
who would wear that to court, thats not professional at all.

[Anonymous No.6460842]

>>6460825
So you think there's no such thing as stupid tattoos? You approve of every tattoo you've ever seen? You've never looked at one and go "jesus christ how drunk WERE they?"

To me, a tattoo is not inherently a stupid choice. A stupid choice would be getting a tattoo of a penis on your arm and wondering why no one will hire you. Or a shark on your forehead.

A stupid choice limits you in life. Sure, you can probably find a job SOMEWHERE with any tattoo, but it does limit your options depending on what it is and how visible it is. A neck tattoo of a swastika, for instance, is probably a stupid choice.

You just sound like someone who's been judged on what many view as a stupid tattoo and are butthurt about it.

[Anonymous No.6460850]

>>6460825
>Your opinion is shit
This statement discounts anything you've said or will say.

[Anonymous No.6460861]

>>6460820
Better than flippin' burgers, yo. Suppose you're a manager of your own firm then huh? Wanna compare e-peens? Look, I'm not saying it's worth bragging about, it's a managerial position though like I said so my point is that people with body modifications can progress in a professional environment. I've only just turned 21 and I fully intend on progressing upwards in the company -and- getting more modifications.

I fully accept that some people don't like them and that other people love them. There's no point in trying to justify why people get tattoos, that's not what I'm trying to do. It's personal choice. If you put enough thought into your tattoos and get them done by someone who knows what they're doing then why the hell not? The piercings are just a vanity thing. I don't have all that shit in my face like >>6460798
>>6459893, but I can take them out at any time. The ones I've taken out already and left to heal aren't even visible.

tl;dr stop being mad at our life choices you aren't my mom

[Anonymous No.6460863]

I got this one a few months ago. To be honest, I'm not a fan of how it came out, thankfully it's on my shoulder blade and I don't have to look at it. I was thinking about using it for Yue shoots from The Last Airbender, since that's what the tattoo was of. (Tui and La). I wish the artist didn't make them so.... fat...

[Soni !!BvH0j6gtcGI No.6460865]

My experience with courts is that you need to look professional in that you aren't going to go to court looking like you're a. going to the club. b. going out to see your friends. c. going out to cop some drugs from your dealer.

At the courts I go to, it's professional attire at all times if you are presenting. Do people have tattoos? Yes. Do people have piercings? Yes.. but generally you take them out for court if they are visible. I've gone to court with purple hair (done nicely, mind you, up in a neat bun) without an issue.

Most judges are not going to give a shit if you have a tattoo on your hand since they aren't there to judge your choices, they are there to judge at whatever the case is at hand. But again, that's my own experience, and I'm in court on a weekly basis.

[Anonymous No.6460870]

>>6460825
>But give me a reason of why it is a stupid choice.

Not that anon, but:
- your tattoos can turn out like OP's
- people like >>6460820 will judge you and that WILL hurt your career opportunities
- by going out of your way to modify your body, you automatically push yourself into the "special snowflake" group, which can limit your circle of friends to other special snowflakes
- additionally, well-to-do men are usually pressured to avoid alternative women, so you are relegated to the bottom of the barrel when it comes to the dating world. If you don't believe me, take a quick look at /r9k/ and see how even shit-tier men react to girls with tattoos.

Tl;DR: yes, you will be judged whether you have a tattoo or not. However, getting a visible tattoo, or piercings, or what have you, is a poor life choice because it will ultimately decrease the quality of your life in crucial social arenas. Most people already recognize this fact, and while the special kids think their tats make them deep, the rest of society finds you retarded for putting yourself in such a position.

[Anonymous No.6460886]

>>6460839
>who would wear that to court, thats not professional at all.

that'sthepoint.jpg

[Anonymous No.6460910]

>>6460870
-Everything has pros and cons
-If you don't know the person has a tattoo why judge?
-Anybody can be considered a special snowflake with anything
-If a person immediately makes judgement on you just because of something as simple as a tattoo then they probably aren't the kind of person you want to be with.

tl;dr Your opinion is shit and you should feel ashamed.

[Anonymous No.6460935]

>>6460910
Sounds to me like someone's dolphin tramp stamp has gotten too many negative comments and they're super butthurt about it.

It's okay, if you like it then that's all that matters.

[Anonymous No.6460955]

>>6460820

Actually, in Teleservices companies, team leads are managers. Team member is your basic entry level position. Next is floor support. A promotion above that is Trainer, with the next highest position being team lead. In a site of say, 600 people, there are usually 13-15 people under each team lead, and the go to floor support for help before they go to team leads.

[Anonymous No.6460967]

>>6460699
Should be self explanatory. Unless you really ARE that stupid.

[Anonymous No.6460971]

>>6460910
>Everything has pros and cons
Since I've named the cons, why don't you enumerate how having a tattoo can enhance the quality of your life?

>Anybody can be considered a special snowflake with anything
This is a very vague statement. I assume you mean you can look at a person and pick out something that makes them think they're special? Regardless if they have a tattoo? Because unless you dress or behave obnoxiously (or draw permanent edgy shit all over your body), chances are you have removed yourself from the position of being singled out as a snowflake.

>If a person immediately makes judgement on you just because of something as simple as a tattoo then they probably aren't the kind of person you want to be with.
While yes, we can choose our friends and our significant others, the concept of not being hired because you look like an retarded teenager is not so easily sidestepped.

>>6460935
this. You know you can always get it removed if it's causing you this much regret, right? It might end up like pic related, but it's worth the risk.

[Anonymous No.6460982]

>>6460935
>he really thinks I have a tattoo!

[Anonymous No.6460987]

>>6460861
>people with body modifications can progress in a professional environment.
How much higher do you think you can climb the corporate ladder with your unique looks? How often is it do you see/hear of female CEOs, let alone high-ranking alternative females?

My point is, there is a time and place for everything. Alternative fashion can look great on the right people, but there is a reason you see them making coffee for you at starbucks instead of pushing papers at a federal bank.

>tl;dr stop being mad at our life choices you aren't my mom
I ask for the fourth time, where/how do I seem mad? I'm not the one covering my body in tacky, irreversible blemishes.

[Anonymous No.6460994]

and this is why I prefer asian girls.

they don't do this trashy stuff.

[Anonymous No.6460990]

thread is no longer cosplay related, saged and hidden for close minded, obstinate and opinionated anons.


Hope it gets deleted.

[Anonymous No.6460995]

>>6460870

Not everyone can be lumped into the same category? I'm happily married, from a rich family, and doing what I want with my life. I have a very visible tattoo, and I've never had a rude comment on it. Other things, like gaining or loosing large amounts of weight, having a shitty hair day, and not putting on my makeup before getting the mail have all gotten me much worse comments that my tattoos.

You can't just generalize and lump everyone with a single trait into one group. That's where you're wrong, and why people aren't agreeing with you.

[Anonymous No.6461001]

>>6460987
that girl is so beautiful.

>>6460994
anon has just proved they don't know any more than 2-3 asian girls.

[Anonymous No.6460998]

>>6460987
professional is not restricted to CEOs and working at a bank anon, there are plenty of people with tattoos and piercing in my field and honestly it can work in your favor. Its not a look for every job, but to say you can't be a professional and have body mods is flat out wrong.

[Anonymous No.6461000]

Tattoos are terrible. If you're not in a band or something you're an idiot for getting one.

[Anonymous No.6461007]

>>6459851
The entire staff of the pizza hut I worked at last year was tatted up with extremely visible tattoos
I'm talking neck, hand, and full sleeves

I all depends on the manager

[Anonymous No.6461008]

>>6460994

Same. Asian girls are pure and beautiful. Look at how perfect Laika is for example. She actually looks like a legit princess.

I wish western girls were feminine like that, but all you care about is pissing off your dad's.

[Anonymous No.6461009]

>>6460987
Not everyone wants to be a CEO, though. And plenty of people with mods have good jobs. Some are even in the military (which shocked me, since I heard even tatts can get you denied).

Most mods, unless you've gone totally crazy with them, are easily hidden. Most people won't notice them if you're wearing retainers/hiders. If people realised this, they might not have issues getting jobs. But idiots go in with the most garish jewelry ever and expecting to get a job, are well.. idiots.

[Anonymous No.6461015]

Lord jesus have fucking mercy.
>no not everyone is going to judge you for having a tattoo
Guess what, not everyone cares. So what if you have stars on your lower back, if you hide it you're fine for employment. You don't have to tell them where as long as it isn't visible.

Get what you want, where you want. I personally don't give a rats ass what you do with your body if you are able to hide it. You wanna get snoopy on your coooch? Fine. Your money. Not mine.
you,however, will be judges extra hard if its on your face. The only places that would hire you won't be getting you that apartment in the sky.

I also think its about attitude. Many of you think everyone with tattoos have this holier than thou attitude or they think they're special. No- come on. We know that's wrong.

Stop caring so much all of you. No point in getting high strung.
If you need to cover, cover it. If not, whatever.

[Anonymous No.6461021]

>>6461009
yeah. and even in the medical field, visible tattoos are becoming more accepted. many nurses, physical therapists, and even doctors in my area have visible tattoos. they don't have shit like full sleeves and tribal armbands, but most stuff is tolerated.

[Anonymous No.6461044]

>>6461021
Tbh, even as a doctor in a hospital, I'd imagine you can get away with a ton of tattoos, because what they wear covers most of their body anyway.

It seems most of the time it's much easier to start your mods after you have a steady job. They're more accepting when they know you're a hard worker and your mods won't affect that.

Most of the people I see complaining about "Wahh discrimination, I can't get a job!!" are people who can't even be arsed to cover their mods up or they have 2"+ ears and think no one will care about that somehow.

[Anonymous No.6461045]

>>6460995
>from a rich family
so, unlike most people, you don't have to worry as much about finding a significant other that will be able to financially support you and your children. Not saying 4chan is a good indicator of good guys, but the comments like >>6460994 and another one that got deleted kind of prove my point. Tattoos look trashy as hell, but if you're fine with the kind of guys they attract, that's your preference.

>doing what I want with my life.
Which is...?

> I have a very visible tattoo, and I've never had a rude comment on it.
Again, just because people don't say it doesn't mean they aren't thinking it.

>people aren't agreeing with you.
check for samefag and then say that

[Anonymous No.6461058]

>>6461045
>Again, just because people don't say it doesn't mean they aren't thinking it.

You would be amazed the things people say/do because you have a visible tattoo or mod. It's like all polite society rules fly out the fucking window.

No you can't just slip up behind me and touch me just cause I have a tattoo or piercings. Hell, people do that with unnatural hair colours too. Then they have the nerve to get mad when you yell at them or slap their nasty ass hands away from you. Nothing is ever any excuse to go up and touch a stranger without permission.

[Anonymous No.6461055]

>>6460987
Our regional manager is a woman, she has dyed black hair down to her butt that has a blue tint to it and she has her nose and ears pierced. She drinks with us at our local rock bar whenever she's in town.

>there is a reason you see them making coffee for you at starbucks instead of pushing papers at a federal bank
That's because most of them are trying to make some spare cash for school and college. I don't know what it's like where you live but the employees at Starbucks here are usually students. Same with bar staff. I never see the same barista or bar tender working in my usual places for more than a couple of months, and they're all about the same age as me. I've been working customer service jobs since I was 16, I got my first tattoo when I was 15 and first piercing when I was 16. No job has turned me down over my physical appearance because I'm not some unhygienic slob with mouldy tattoos and piercings. In fact I've only been rejected for jobs when I was doing my degree because I wasn't flexible enough in terms of hours I could work for them.

>I'm not the one covering my body in tacky, irreversible blemishes
Then why continue to try and shame people that are doing so? This is what makes you mad. But feel free to continue to argue with people about why their life choices are wrong. Pressing your views on to people who honestly couldn't care less about why you think tattoos are 'wrong' or 'tacky' is pointless. I'm only continuing because you're damn wrong about people with modifications being unprofessional. We get it, you don't like them. Cogdragulations. Have a banana sticker. Continue looking down your nose at the degenerate scumbags.

[Anonymous No.6461074]

>>6461044
this is true. for example, my mother has been working at the same hospital for 20 years. she only recently got a small tattoo on the inside of her forearm in celebration of running her first marathon at 42 years old (it says perseverance, if anyone wants to know). it's definitely visible, and she often tells me stories of people being curious about it and complimenting her. many of her therapist and doctor friends have much more obvious tattoos.

and for those angry anons who are saying asian girls are better for not having tattoos? my mom's chinese.

[Anonymous No.6461113]

>>6461045

I find it interesting that you don't think people in the upper class are judged, it's the same petty world that you live in. Money is the only difference.

As for the "type of man" I've found, he's everything I've ever wanted. He isn't some kind of "bad boy". He doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, and I honestly think it would be funny to imagine him at the bottom of any barrel. He is intelligent, shares in my hobbies, and he's treated me better than anyone else I know. I don't see why I have to prove anything to you, though. It's my life, not yours. You're probably also thinking that there is no way a decent human being would want his "woman" to have a tattoo, but he went with me to get it. It's dedicated to survivors of sexual assault and child molestation, and I will never regret it.

I'm exactly where I want to be in life. I've dedicated all of my time to volunteer work. I do everything from hosting children's events at the local library to mentoring teens, to helping at the ASPCA and the women's shelter. and I have a lot of fun with it. I also write, volunteer for political causes, and take time for any art or hobby that I take an interest in. My life is exactly what I want it to be, and I'm happy with it. Once again, I can't see how any of this really matters. You can name call and quote freshman-level political science all you want, but it isn't going to do anything to me. I'm not going to go home, and decide that my husband must be the worst kind of human scum because he doesn't find tattoos repulsive. I'm not going to suddenly decide that the meaning behind my ink is less important than what a stranger on the Internet thinks, and I'm not going to wither into a state of self loathing at the thought of all the other things I could be doing with my life.

[The Cosplay Cop No.6461188]

>>6461021
>and even in the medical field, visible tattoos are becoming more accepted. many nurses, physical therapists, and even doctors in my area have visible tattoos.

I was at the hospital a few weeks ago getting a lumbar puncture when I noticed one of the nurses had a pretty banging tattoo of Scanty and Kneesocks on her forearm..

So, which one of you chicks was it?

[White Lion No.6461327]

Unless you plan on being a CEO or go into some line of work where professionalism is a life style (i.e. sales jobs, client meetings, etc) then tasteful tattoos are always fine. It's a simple fact that people care less and less about tattoos as they become more common. So long as you avoid the face (an extreme that nobody appreciates), aren't offensive and can look/act the part you work for, it's fine.

As far as cosplaying with tats, which is the point of this thread, I say don't even cover them. You're already destroying the chance of looking EXACTLY like a character when you get them, so show them off. Fan tats are appreciated, and good ink is always a plus.

I melt from joy when I see Joestar tattoos, personally!

[Anonymous No.6461564]

>>6461045
>Implying anyone would want to attract 12 year old "pure virgin waifu" aspies
>over normal guys

[Anonymous No.6461957]

>>6460863
"Artist" ? Christ this is almost as bad as OP's. Stop ruining the art from my favourite show.

Though for not speaking up or even reviewing the design before you had it permanently etched onto your skin, you kind of deserve it.

[Anonymous No.6462566]

>>6461021
I was in the ER a couple of months ago and the triage nurse had a tattoo on his forearm, which would have been covered if he hadn't had his sleeve rolled up. He didn't care, I didn't care, no one cared. I have two tattoos and am planning more for when time and money allow (now that I've finally found an artist I trust) and my dad flipped out when I got the first one because he had an old-fashioned view of tattoos. That was many years ago, though, and now he is working a different job where he's around young professionals more often and has noticed that everyone seems to have tattoos. He even commented to me that it doesn't bug him as much anymore, and my mom has become fascinated with them recently. She was asking me all about getting them...I think she secretly wants one.

[Anonymous No.6462587]

>>6460987
The most annoying thing about this picture is her belly imo. But her face is pretty and that's some nice ink on her

[Anonymous No.6462628]

http://www.6minutes.com.au/news/ideas/the-tattooed-doctor

The picture that was passed around tumblr a million times.

All of you saying tattoos will fuck you over for life can go home now.

[/co/apt No.6462686]

I think people are looking at 'professional' jobs as just being in an office.
Perhaps it's just that the Army has different standards of tattoo acceptability, but the most 'professional' ncos and officers I know have tattoos. My captain does, my first sergeant does, nearly every nco I have any level of respect for has a tattoo. These are the men I'm deploying with so I sure as shit hope the number of tattoos they have doesn't directly effect their professionalism.

ON THE FLIP SIDE, I hate to see people with tattoos sticking out of their uniform. Face/neck/hand tattoos are a little much for me.
Pic related it's my tattoo. Probably the only one I'll ever get.

[Anonymous No.6462714]

Lol at people thinking you can never get a decent job with a tattoo. I'm an entomologist and pretty much every entomologist I know has some sort of bug tattoo somewhere, from tenured professors to freshmen.

[Anonymous No.6462729]

as long as you can cover it up with make up or clothes, who gives a shit? its your body, if you want to get a tattoo then get one.

[Anonymous No.6462749]

>>6458298
I have tattooed eyebrows.

Am I unprofessional?

[Anonymous No.6462761]

>>6462749
>tattooed eyebrows
...lol. I'm just trying to picture what this looks like.

[Anonymous No.6462772]

mod plz delete thread

[Anonymous No.6462781]

>>6458298
never come to texas it looks like a sloppy whataburger symbol

[Anonymous No.6462796]

>>6462628
>The letters "MD" are tattoed on his back, while a skull with a red medical cross (the symbol of Dr. Dave’s motorcycle club of health professionals)
He got those after he was well established in his profession unlike all these perma-NEETS.

[Anonymous No.6462836]

http://shop.temptupro.com/p-143-sb-concealer-wheel.aspx
I had a workshop with a guy who works on Broadway with costumes- He said that this is what he always uses to cover up tattoos~ Hope I helped!

[Anonymous No.6462837]

jesus get rid of the back acne first please

[Anonymous No.6462838]

>>6462761
Not the person you're replying to, but actually a lot of people have their eyebrows tattooed. Well, I shouldn't say that. A lot of viets and mexicans have their eyebrows tattooed. It actually doesn't look too bad.

[Anonymous No.6462843]

>>6462838
Until you have to change your facial expression and your eyebrows don't do anything.

[Anonymous No.6462845]

>>6462843
Unless you're a freak of nature, your eyebrows themselves don't move, the muscle and skin beneath does. How do you think people move their eyebrows when they cover and paint them on again for cosplay?

[Anonymous No.6462849]

>>6462845
>the joke
----------
>your head

[Anonymous No.6463641]

Is everyone in this thread 12 years old? Seriously.

[Anonymous No.6463650]

>>6459602
Who the fuck is dumb enough to selfpost on cgl?

[Anonymous No.6463801]

All the tattoos I've seen on here are shit. As an alt girl who works corporate, yes tattoos can ruin your life (just as anything can). When I cosplay or am doing anything out in public I cover mine up with tattoo cover.

I don't think they honestly make your existence worse though. It's all a matter of taste and opinions

[Anonymous No.6466141]

>>6463801
>"As an alt girl who works corporate, yes tattoos can ruin your life."
>"I don't think they honestly make your existence worse though."
Are people really this retarded in real life?

[Anonymous No.6467367]

i have two tattoos but theyre on my back and ribs respectively so nobody ever has to look at them.
This is the one I regret though, because I got it for a character but they changed a lot. Also the purple ink faded in like three weeks.

[Anonymous No.6467391]

>>6459738
I did the same thing. It helped me a lot.

[Anonymous No.6467419]

>>6467367
>homosuck tattoo
>'the purple faded'

please don't ever have kids

[Anonymous No.6467505]

>>6460987
Jumping on the bandwagon late, but my CIO has tattoos. You can see them often when she wears pumps with her pantsuit. I'm pretty sure the CFO has them too as he seems like the type, though I've never seen them.

I also live in the north east, which although is less conservative about your religious status, is generally considered one of the most conservative parts of the country when it comes to business.

Tattoos will generally impede your ability to get a job, but if you're good at what you do and are generally clean cut, have manners, and are well spoken- you'll find a job.

Tattoos are only trashy when you're trashy and don't care how they're placed and don't get them from a reputable artist. Just like buying a suit from walmart will make you look cheap. (except tattoos are for life.)

[Anonymous No.6467521]

>>6462796

I'm in school right now. I want a tattoo of a double helix down my arm for some reason. I think it would be cool, particularly at the end if there's some sort of artsy rendition of the DNA unravelling and replicating along my shoulder and upper chest area. It would mean I'd have to cover up when I go to work, but that's fine with me.

I can see how easily fucked up that can get though. I can barely draw as it is, and describing it to a tattoo artist only to get a shit job forever is terrifying

[Anonymous No.6467649]

>>6460781
NONE. i have a back piece, and a lot of friends don't even know i have one.

[Anonymous No.6467681]

>>6459192
Wait, are we talking about the same Lobi?
Lobitah-wife tier-Lobi?!

[Anonymous No.6467682]

>>6467521
>and describing it to a tattoo artist only to get a shit job forever is terrifying


This is why you ask them to draw it out beforehand (and look at examples of their work). My friend went into a tattoo shop with a basic idea of "bearded skull" and the artist came up with pic related.

[Anonymous No.6467683]

>>6467367
At least is well done.
Ever considered laser removal?

[Anonymous No.6467689]

>>6467683
I'm interested on this.
Do any of you seagulls have experience with laser tattoo removal? Does it leave scars and is it really as painful as they say it is?

[Anonymous No.6467703]

>>6460863
I like tattoos that are from something but in a subtle way. People will only get it if they've seen the show and it also can stand alone as something.

[Anonymous No.6467715]

I just recently got a tattoo and I have mixed feelings about it.
The design is great and the art is amazing but I'm not sure about the spot, it's on my hip bone.
I'm going to visit my boyfriend on christmas and even though I showed him pictures and said it turned out great I'm afraid he won't like the way my body looks now because of the tattoo and I feel very insecure. So far I've ony gotten positive reaction towards it but I'm afraid my boyfriend will not like my body anymore. He likes tattoos, but he hasn't gotten one yet.
Any sort of experience with this?

[Anonymous No.6467719]

>>6460863
I honestly think that is quite beautiful.

[Anonymous No.6467720]

Well since this is a tattoo thread I need some help.
I want to get tentacles on my back and have the ends wrap a little around my side.
Problem is I can't find any pics like this. I drew this up real quick as an idea but I can't draw for shit.
Does anyone know where I can get this designed? Or know of any pics that could work for it?
The only tattoo artist I'm able to go to didn't really draw it how I like and hasn't gotten back to me with revisions. Maybe if I had some better pics to show him he'll get a better idea of what I'm taking about.

[Anonymous No.6467721]

>>6458488
what a special, sexually open, snowflake you are

[Anonymous No.6467724]

>>6459919
oh my god his fingers. He has the hand of a ninja turtle.

[Anonymous No.6467726]

>>6467715
Except if it's the kind of tattoo that is literally in your face or badly executed. I think it should be ok. Even if he doesn't feel very amazed by it, I don't think he will "not like your body anymore". Because, somehow, tattoos soon become part of the person, and the entourage gets oddly quickly used to them.

[Anonymous No.6467833]

>>6467721
or maybe she's just complimenting the girl's tits.

[Anonymous No.6467848]

>>6467833
doubtful.

[Anonymous No.6467961]

>>6467689
anyone?

[Anonymous No.6468708]

bumpo

[Anonymous No.6470196]

>>6460505
Proving that your brain and arsehole need to swap places, you might say more intelligent things.

[Anonymous No.6470201]

>>6467720
What a fucking stupid idea.

[Anonymous No.6470216]

>>6460806
the pedantic acne covered ass knows this, he/she/it is just trying to win an argument that means more to them than you could ever guess.

[Anonymous No.6470287]

I want by all means to get a tattoo. But I have no idea where. I don't want it to be visible and I want it to be small. Alas, in my field of work nobody cares /at all/. Lots of my professors have visible tats, some of them even have full tat sleeves. And they are still great professionals and people still go to them. And yes, I'm at a field that deals a LOT with people, talking to them and convincing them we're right. But it's also a field where people go to professional congresses smelling like shit (literally)

[Anonymous No.6470295]

>>6470287

Which field are you in? It sounds awesome and not uptight at all, and I'd work in it even if it had mediocre pay. Sounds like you get to work with a lot of people who are passionate and don't give a fuck about appearance.

[Anonymous No.6470306]

>>6470295
Veterinary. We work with animals and animals don't care, but we also work with owners and... Well, they don't care either.

Though I had a professor that insisted on giving us a class on "how to look professional", which included everything from wearing a suit on all occasions to women not being allowed to have more hair-do than a ponytail or wear make-up at all. Then we talked to other professors about it and we all had a good laugh.

Though I suppose it may be different depending on the country. But pretty much everyone I know that works with exotic or wild animals has tats, most of people that work with cattle too, surgeons have a lot of them as well... It depends, but it's generally accepted.

[Anonymous No.6471399]

>>6470201
but that's like your opinion man

[TikkiTavi !TaigaVQ/9E No.6471431]

>>6467720
Try deviantart, bunch of people will draw you something for free as long as you tag the completed tattoo as their design and post it there

>>6470287
If you want something small and non visible the foot is a good place, that way it can be visible when you wear sandals etc, but not at work in prof. attire. If you're looking for anything bigger you have pretty much anything covered by normal clothing, back, chest, stomach, upper arm legs etc. and if you're feeling really adventurous the inside of your mouth. I've known tons of people you wouldn't guess/realize they had tats until they go swimming or something so you're not really that limited space/place-wise tbh

[Anonymous No.6472446]

I've got multicolour hair, a few small facial piercings, stretched ears (though reasonably small) and 6 large, visible tattoos and I work as the front desk receptionist at a pretty well respected/reputable organization. My bosses have been pretty good, thankfully the CEO is a bit of an artsy type and likes my 'style', so I don't think even if somebody else hated it they would get very far. I thought maybe they were just tolerating me because they couldn't fire me just for my appearance or something, but I recently got a great review, a big raise and some extra hours too.

No, I'm not saying well-paid receptionist is the pinnacle of employment, and no I'm not saying I'm ~so unique~ - just pointing out that in the right environment, nobody really gives a shit and you can be judged on your own merits not just your chosen aesthetic.

More on point, I guess...OP - dermablend for cosplay for sure. I think it wouldn't look "bad" but certainly out of character unless you were cosplaying biker Wonderwoman.

[Anonymous No.6472497]

>>6467720
I like this idea. Seconding asking someone from deviantArt. I had a design done up by a deviant artist that I took to my tattoo artist, who then polished it up further. It helped that all 3 of us were big fans of the subject matter.

[Anonymous No.6472889]

>>6471431
>>6472497
Thanks! I'll do that, but how do I go about asking them?

[Anonymous No.6472946]

How about not wearing open-back dresses whilst having a FAT BACK?

Gross. It's like a tattooed brood swine.

[Anonymous No.6474412]

>>6467720
Do you really want someone you can't trust to make a design you like to permanently etch something on your skin? Really that should be sending alarm bells ringing.

[Anonymous No.6475048]

>>6474412
Tattoo artists generally have a certain style when making their own designs, and that style isn't what I want.
But any half assed tattoo artist can copy an image, unless it's something like a picture of a person. Those barely ever come out right.
So I will get it designed by a person whos style I like and then have them tattoo that.
Also I didn't say he was a bad tattoo artist, I just don't want him designing my tattoo because I'm picky about the style.
There's nothing wrong with making sure your permanent tattoo comes out how you want.

[Anonymous No.6475096]

>>6474412

DIfferent artists have different styles. Not every one draws the same way, therefore if two artists were told to draw the same design, it would look different.
I've drawn all my own tattoos and not every tattoo artist has been able to pull it off exactly how I want because here's also then the matter of their skill at shading, etc. So it's important to pick someone whose work you like, even if they aren't technically designing it.