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So Gutterface and her bitch stop mooching and doing nothing in Ohio to move in with Gutterface's supah gay boifrand Brian in Massachusetts and do jack shit up there.

Brian got annoyed because she couldn't even try to find a job and only brought in about 20$ a month ripping people off of commissions, so Brian said they had to go.

But since gutterface and her bitch are 22 year olds with out licenses or even a lick of cash, she SOBBED A BIG HUGE STORY that Brian was beating her senseless and she couldn't take it any more. She BEGGED all of her fan club to send her money so she could get home... she didn't try to sell all her expensive ass goth clothes, offer commissions, ANYTHING, just posted her paypal and begged for pity. It worked, she got about 400$ from it and someone offered to drive her home. all the way to Ohio.

Brian didn't really give any shits and he wasn't totally aware that Gutterface had told everyone he beat her to near death and helped her pack and was also really nice to the kids driving her home. Gutterface slept and instagramed the whole time in the car and didn't even act grateful.

Now she's back home with mom and pop, was able to afford more expensive ass copic markers for her kawaii arts and is back to selling shit. This is the short version.

I'm trying to find a pic of Brian but after Joji as gone she pretty much sent the hounds after him and he was getting death threats and calls from the police wondering if it was try, so he has pretty much vacated the internet at the time.

I rather not say how I know all of this, but there ya go.

TL;DR: Gutterbitch still can't get a job, is still stealing money and is still kawaii goth idoru.

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>>6353370
YES. A legit drama thread.

>> No.6353376

who the fuck is this and why should i care

>> No.6353380

Wow.
From the start there was no way she could afford to live in Massachusetts but I didn't expect it to turn out like that.

>> No.6353395

>>6353376
she's an old time fakeboi who is still faking it up
she's had drama flying around since she started

>> No.6353397

God, gutterface is the gift that keeps on giving. Any more delicious details?

>> No.6353404

>>6353376
>not knowing gutterface drama
DYE/cgl/

>> No.6353408

Wow. I believe it though. I just don't like to think there are people like her/him out there.

>> No.6353410

>>6353395
And even before then, with the BJD community.
It just never ends...

>> No.6353413

What an awful person.

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>>6353376
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Kazakai

GlitterCunt or whatever her name is is the queen of fake bois.

She's also
A huge scammer
22 with out any job record or drivers permit
a 7th grade drop out
has destroyed numerous numerous grave stones
is a gayboi who only fucks boys
is "married" to a fat whale of a fakeboi whom she doesn't even have sex with and takes full advantage of
EXTREMELY BUTT HURT ABOUT ANYTHING

/jojiviktorgrey on facebook.

>> No.6353419

>>6353412
I'm >>6353376 here and this looks fucking delicious, thank you

>> No.6353423

>>6353412

What the fuck is that creature?

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The only pic I can find of Brian at the moment.

here is a picture of the lovely truple.

>> No.6353426

>>6353412
>is a gayboi who only fucks boys

I think you mean "only fuck other fakebois", but even then it's only...

>is "married" to a fat whale of a fakeboi whom she doesn't even have sex with and takes full advantage

...who is actually her biological cousin, adoptive sister. Her parents are her biological aunt & uncle. GF also claims that instead of having sex or kissing, that she and "Irry/Eerie" have full on fist fights to show their intimacy and twue wuv.

>> No.6353437

>>6353426
Apparently she liked being fucked by Brian in her nonexistent cunt.

>> No.6353443

>>6353412
>>6353426

And actually, it's theorized that GF is actually still a virgin. All she hangs out with are girls and her sistercousin and the only people she talks to are her "fans". A year or so ago in a thread about her a cap was posted from her facebook where somehow the topic of sex came up and she claimed to have a "primal dislike" of sex. This prompted someone to say "either you've only had bad sex or you've never had sex" (IIRC), and she said something like "I actually HAVE had sex TYVM, I just hate it!"

Though I honestly cannot imagine the kind of man that would put his penis into her, nor can I imagine her being around anyone with a penis and trying to get them to call her Joji and refer to her as a man.

Also she claimed to have fucked Ruki from the Gazette at a con when she was like 14, back when she still did the "I'm a real gay transvestite boi!!!" shit.

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All her expensive ass copic markers she was unwilling to sell to get gas money from fans.

>> No.6353447

>>6353437

Source needed.

>> No.6353458

>>6353429
that poor sucker. Prolly a chill dude.

>> No.6353455

>>6353446

No shit. She won't sell any of her stuff for anything, and she still asks for presents for shit like halloween. She's spoiled fucking rotten and greedy as shit and she just wants to mooch off everyone else.

>> No.6353465

>>6353429

I wish someone could contact this Brian fellow and get his side of it all. I really want to know what it's like to have Gutterface mooch off of you.

>> No.6353464

>>6353443
"He asked me not to say anything because, I mean obviously it would cause problems if the public knew he were out sleeping with transvestite boys. God he was so huge though, and did he ever know hot to use it. I rode him so hard."

Also she has claimed to be japanese several SEVERAL times.

>> No.6353469

>>6353455
>presents
>halloween

what
no really, what

>> No.6353470

>>6353464

She claimed she was half Japanese, her mom was a German prostitute that got knocked up by a Japanese businessman and then came to America to have her and dump her on her aunt & uncle.

She's actually friends with her mom on FB who totally buys all her "I'm a gay transman" shit. Lists her as her son and errything.

>> No.6353475

Am I the only one who has zero sympathy for anyone who gets fucked over by Gutterbitch anymore? Like, with one google search you know what she's done. If you've known who she is for more than year you know she is totally inconsistent with her story, and who she "really" is.

These people bring it upon themselves, Joji doesn't force herself on anyone. They come to her.

>> No.6353480

>>6353469

Yes, exactly. She gets present for Halloween, Christmas, and her birthday from her fans, and for apparently no reason at all, AS WELL AS espensive presents from her parents.

>They bought her an expensive ass professional-tier camera for Christmas one year and her ungrateful ass posted a blog about being disappointed about it being a different brand than the one she wanted. The one she got was a Nikon, I believe, which I always thought was one of, if not the best brand out there.

>> No.6353489

>>6353475

Her name is actually Ayla, and that's waht bugs me, her name is actually pretty. Joji is her pseudo-Japanese version of "George", because she's totes German/Japanese.

And yeah, that's true, but you don't automatically think to google someone without reason. Anons in past threads have told stories about how she's friendly and girly and bubbly as shit to your face in person. No tumblr trans justice gender-neutral bullshit anywhere.

>> No.6353490

>>6353480
>>6353469
Her latest presents are actually in OP's picture, "Presents from Steph" or whatever.

>> No.6353505

>>6353429
>dem eyebrows

Holy cheese, I thought only old asian women and young latinos do this.

>> No.6353502

>>6353412
>a 7th grade drop out

I need to clear this up, it was in the 2nd Sevvy thread that some anon was like "holy fuck how is that not illegal?"

It is until you're at least 16, at that age you can legally drop out with your parent's permission. Gutterface dropped out of 7th at 16 instead of 8th because she failed a year, though I'm not sure which.

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>>6353446
She was also able to afford getting this... er... tattoo... thing... though she wasn't able to afford gas money/a bus ticket out of salem.

also LOL at the sharpie on the sink... makes me wonder if it's even real...

>> No.6353512

Brian's tumblr is Tri-b.tumblr.com
He's actually written out his side of the story and seems like a level headed, nice guy. Basically, Gutterface's Borderline Personality Disorder became too much for Brian to bear (he would scream and hit him and accuse him of abusing him whenever he was triggered by something). Brian gave him an ultimatum to either get help or get out, and well, we all know how that went. I feel really bad for the guy.

>> No.6353522

>>6353480
christmas i'm cool with
birthday i'm cool with
halloween... only thing she better be getting is candy out the ass

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Her sugar daddy til he got tired of her shit.

>> No.6353531

>>6353512

You seem to be mistaken, Gutterface is a girl.

>> No.6353528

>>6353508

Her tattoos, tongue split, piercings and shit are all real, but that just looks messy like she was coloring herself for a few hours with a sharpie. I don't think she would get one of her gawffik tattoos covered with just black like that.

Also, how is it that the outside edge of her arm dips in like that? I thought she was better at shooping herself thin than that.

>> No.6353540

>>6353480
as far as the camera brand thing, nikon has a lot of levels and price points so some nikons are awesome, some are merely okay

>> No.6353551

>>6353512
Just saw that post, for anyone else interested in reading it:
http://tri-b.tumblr.com/post/34212741645/rumors-are-being-spread-about-me-this-is-the

Says he doesn't want anyone asking about what happened anymore, but it pretty much sums everything up anyway.

>> No.6353553

>>6353512
Me too

he has gotten death threats, police visits, I think someone mentioned that they tried to break his wondow...

>> No.6353556

>>6353505
It's practically a requirement to shave and draw your eyebrows on to fit into the goth subculture.

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>>6353551

HOLY SHIT THAT HANDWRITING. There is no doubt she dropped out of the 7th grade.

>> No.6353562

>>6353489
German/Japanese

lol Germanese

>> No.6353564

>>6353559
OH SHIT, haha, that was written by him.


Ooopps.

>> No.6353569

>>6353562

Jerpanese.

>> No.6353574

>>6353569
Oh my god I almost died choking on my spit when I read that, I was laughing so hard.

That's so much better, so so much better.

>> No.6353576

>>6353512
>>6353551

This Brian guy seems great and all, but I just really have an issue with him saying "baww poor Joji it's not his fault he can't heeeelp it he has spine problems and BPD and it's untreated and so haaaard to live with!"

Shit like this just proves that they need to have her fucking committed. It interferes with her ability to do ANYTHING and if she trashes a guy's apartment for suggesting she be responsible for her actions, she is in no way functional. That shit is sickening, how everyone just makes excuses for her and gives her everything despite her being the most rotten, disgusting individual ever.

>> No.6353600

Posting from Brian's blog:

Anon ask: how exactly did you and Joj meet?

>We had a mutual friend. I saw his videos and knew right away we were going to get along. It was like looking into a mirror. We started talking on the phone before we ever started talking online. We were amazing friends for about 3 and a half months. I also began talking to eerie a lot. We ended up talking constantly. Then I asked joj what he thought about us dating. He said “let me ask eerie” 5 min later said “ok” we talked for almost 4-5 hours a day, and texted in between. 2 weeks later I bought a plane ticket to visit for a week. I had to be sure this was real. We all hit it off immediately. By the end of the week we were in tears. He said “Brian your so god damn charming your going to have to decide if your going to be with me for the next 40 years or not.” At the airport I said “so when you moving to Salem?” joj said “why….you wanna live with me?” I said “yes….yes I do” and we all cried and said out goodbyes. The very next day when I got back to Arizona, I called them and Basicly said let’s try this out and give it a real shot. I was shaking. I saved my ass off working 72 hours a week for months. Then I left.

>Then I asked joj what he thought about us dating. He said “let me ask eerie” 5 min later said “ok”

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>>6353600

Oops, forgot gif

>> No.6353602

I'm just sad I didn't get to meet them before they left Salem. I messaged Joji and Brian a few times, but we never got plans set up.... then this happened.

>> No.6353606

>>6353602

Hang out with Guter anyway. Befriend her. Then get her some fucking help because she desperately needs it.

>> No.6353610

>>6356306

I can't now. They don't live anywhere near me.

>> No.6353619

>>6353370

I'm friends with one of the people who drove them to Ohio.

Joji's parents were able to get them a bus ticket, but Joji refused to get on a greyhound bus made for peasants. So she got someone from new york to drive to salem, drive to Ohio then BACK TO NEW YORK. Just so fucking out of the way when you could have gotten on the damn bus.

And she pretty much bossed the driver into stopping at starbucks, then ordered expecting her to pay.

>> No.6353623

>>6353576

This. I've seen it way too many times: horrible, mean, violent young people who are adults but still live with and feed off of their parents and are spoiled rotten, and people make excuses for their every fit and tantrum like they can do no wrong.

I fucking wish my life were that easy.

>> No.6353627

>>6353619

Shit like this doesn't even surprise me anymore. I want her to get her ass kicked so damn badly.

More stories? Are your friends still of the opinion that Gutterface is an amazing trans revolutionary that shits pure gold?

>> No.6353628

>>6353619
really? ugh thats horrifying, I would have dropped her ass on the curb and wished her good luck

>> No.6353631
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Her fat sister cousin husband on the right.

>> No.6353644

>>6353631

What I find so funny about Gutterface INSISTING that Eerie is her husband/boyriend/male, when on Eerie's own Tumblr she only alludes to being genderqueer. It seems like in her fear of upsetting the almighty Joji, she just lets her badger people into believing that Eerie is also a gay trans male, when Eerie herself is fine with being female.

>> No.6353645

>>6353627
I take that back, my friend wasn't able to drive with them because Joji really wanted to have the whole back seat to herself because she was just so broken and tired baww baww baww so my friend had to catch a train back to new york after helping them pack. I wish I was joking. Does that count as a story?

My friend and the driver dont' think nearly as much of them as they used to. Apparently Eeirie (or whatever) was really chill and cool but joji was just a giant bitch.

>> No.6353648

>>6353631
Joji looks like a dirty mexcian.

>> No.6353653

>>6353551
>He would write cure lyrics on the floor in his own blood and say it was my fault.

Lol. This sounds like a 13-year-old's behaviour, not like a 22-year-old's.

Anyway, I also know someone who used to be good friends with Gutterface and they also said that she is manipulative and violent, pretty much confirming what Brian is saying now. What I find the saddest about this whole thing is Eerie who just sort of goes with everything GF says and does just because she's learned to just obey her so that she wouldn't get violent with her. At least Brian had the balls to tell them to GTFO his apartment.

>> No.6353654

>>6353645
What. The. Fuck.

>> No.6353655

>>6353645

Yes it does. Let me get this right, Joji pitched a fit in order to have the entire backseat of someone else;s car to herself, someone who offered kindly to drive her home so she wouldn't have to take a bus, when she didn't give money for gas and expected them to cater to her every whim and feed her hipster coffee swill and pay for it as well?

>> No.6353660

>>6353648

She is. Half Mexican at least.

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LOOK HERE CUNTS, I'M A FUCKING BOY. WHY CAN'T YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR FUCKING HEADS?!

Also, at this time she could have still gotten a job...

>> No.6353673

>>6353655
Woah woah woah. She didn't even pay for gas? Where did the $400 in donations go?

>> No.6353675

So, who's gonna update Gutterface's ED page with all this juicy new info? And is anyone capping this shit?

>> No.6353677

>>6353660
IF MY MEXICAN YOU MEAN JAPANESESU

>> No.6353681

>>6353673

Her pocket. Any time she's begging for money she's lying about it, she gets everything she needs paid for by her parents and spends the rest on herself.

>> No.6353683

>>6353677

Tottarry. Since everyone knows Hispanic and Asian are basically the same thing anyway.

>> No.6353686

>>6353681
What the ever loving fuck.

>> No.6353690

>>6353673
Nah, she gave them enough to get to Ohio and back, didn't pay them for coming to New York, and kept all the spare money to herself.... Like, she would give money for gas and that was it. She watched the driver put it in the tank and said how it was so nice that she was going to have some left over when she got home.

All this when she could have just gotten a bus ticket.

And yeah, made the driver pay for starbucks.

>> No.6353694

>>6353672

She'll never get a job as long as people are willing to give her everything because she knows she doesn't really have to. Her parents are never gonna kick her out, her whore mom would take her in even if they did, and she's still be making herself the victim and getting pity donations from her internet fandom.

>> No.6353697

>>6353690

Oh okay, so instead of keeping all of it, she only kept most of it. She's such a saint!

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THIS IS A BOY YOU GUYS. A 5'2" BOY WITH TITS.

IF YOU DARE ACCIDENTLY CALL HER A GIRL

OR EVEN STICK TO UNISEX PRONOUNS BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT SURE

SHE WILL TEAR YOU A NEW FUCKING ASSHOLE.

>> No.6353711

/cgl/ this thread makes me sad as well as angry. I have been diagnosed with BPD and bi-polar a few years ago, therapists seem pretty split 50/50 on which I actually have, but I see so much of my behavior in Joji.

While I don't go to the extremes that she does in violence I do a lot of stuff she does, even like here
>>6353690
If someone gives me excess money that I should give to someone else I'll pocket it, and I'm not poor by any means. I'm actually really well off. But if someone offers, or I think they will pay, I let them.

I also blame my boyfriend a lot for things I know aren't a big deal, or even aren't his fault at all. But I... I feel like I have to. I don't know. I've never gotten violent with him, though.

Am I awful?

>> No.6353716

>>6353703

What pisses me of about her "i'mma transboi!" shit is that everyone eats it up just because she says it's true, and it seems like she only does it because she has fucked up opinions of females. On her own tumblr she reblogged something that said "girls, never let your abusers convince you you're not beautiful" and she reblogged the exact same thing with "girls" striked out and instead put "people".

She really hates girls for some reason. Could it be because she hates herself?

>> No.6353725

>>6353564
He has the handwriting of a fucking psychopath.

>> No.6353724

>>6353711

You're already infinitely better than Gutter because you worry about being an awful person. She, on the other hand, is convinced that she shits rainbows and is satan's holy gift to the world.

>> No.6353727

>>6353725

Something's gotta be wrong with him for him to be attracted to Gutterface, even after all that shit went down.

>> No.6353733

>>6353725
Or even a person having to deal with a psychopath. I think if I were in that situation my handwriting would be pretty fucked.

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>>6353724
GOD DAMMIT I SAID I WAS A BOY CAN YOU NOT READ>@!>!>!>!@<@<@

>> No.6353746
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I have a personal story about Joji.

I went to OhayoCon 2 years ago, which she frequented. This was before I knew how batshit Ayla was. I saw her, and was like 'OMG IT'S THAT GIRL GUTTERFACE' and so I ran up on her, and complimented her and shit. She was very kind and happy to talk to me. I also met Eerie, who was also very sweet. Then she randomly dropped the tranny bomb out of no where saying "Yeah, it surprises people that I'm a boy." And I was surprised, mostly by the fact that it was random and not pertaining to the conversation. So whatever, we continue conning, and it comes to the rave time. I was raving it up, and she was dancing with me. We were both very drunk (I was, and she at least claimed to be). She was doing really slutty dance shit, whatever, all good. She started to make out with me (I am a female.) She then proceeded to purposefully rip out my smiley piercing (Pic related) with her teeth. I was quite trashed, and didn't even care, but the next morning I did. All in all, if you wanna be drunk and a little scandalous, that's fine, but I know that this person claims to be some innocent 'dandy' or some shit, and it just makes me laugh to see all these people kissing her ass when I know who she really is.

Next morning I find out the my very gay male friend was subject to her makeout as well, and the whole time he said to himself 'HOLY FUCK, MY PENIS KNOWS THAT THIS IS NOT A BOY, I'M GUNNA PUKE' He said it ruined his convention because he was so disgusted. It was like Ayla was trying so hard to look like a gay man, he had to make out with a very obviously gay man the WHOLE time. It was all really funny, but just makes her look so fake.

1/2

>> No.6353747

>>6353746

Other friend explained how she ripped her off, they had met up in Ohio to hang out, she bought a bunch of yarn for Ayla to make her some yarn falls for a rave, and then she proceeded to ignore the shit out of her for months and months. Then one day, Ayla was like "listen here you whitetrash bitch" etc etc cursing her out for wanting her yarn/money back. Then a few days later apologizing saying shit like "ohhh, i'm emotionallll cuz im goooothhhhicccc" etc.

All of this is completely and 100% true, unfortunately. It's really sad that she's gotta be like this, because I really love her style, both goth and cyber bullshit. However, this completely ridiculous behavior is insane, and it's unfortunate that so many people overlook such terrible actions.

>> No.6353777

>>6353746
>>6353747
HOLY FUCK THAT MUST HAVE HURT IN THE MORNING.

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I am a mtf and I am EXTREMELY offended by this.

>> No.6353794

>>6353747
>because I really love her style, both goth and cyber bullshit
That's how I feel, too. I won't lie; I think she has a fabulous sense of fashion, but all her batshittery really ruins everything.

>> No.6353795

>>6353787
Is that... random Japanese text tattooed on her side...?

>> No.6353811

>>6353787

I'm FTM and I'm extremely offended by this, but not by being called a faggot or a tranny. It's the "been said 1000 times already" shit that she's playing dressup with being gay and trans. That's the shit she did for that "purple day of silence" bullshit that DA did a while back.

Also, It's funny that she shooped herself thinner but forgot to shoop the fat roll showing through the slits in her shirt.

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rip off much??

>> No.6353840

>>6353777
Actually the pain wasn't as bad as you'd think it'd be, I was just sad because I had just done it that day. Fortunately, it healed up quickly, and I pierced it again, and it's been in for about 8 months now. But still, wtf Joji, you can't just run around ripping piercings out of people.

>>6353794
For real, I would be ALL OVER her if she was just like, not so horrible. Hell, I'd even be down with the ftm thing if she wasn't such a psycho about it.

>> No.6353845

>>6353795

Dir en grey lyrics to that "304 Goshitsu something something maybe sakura" Song. I'm digging to fing the translation she posted, it was edgy as fuck. Until I find it, have a list of her planned bodymods:

- Permanent Fangs
- Various facial piercings (nose, lip, anti brow etc)
- Tongue split
- Skin lightened
- chest surgery
- possible bottom surgery
- 6 subdermal implants under my collar bones
- Subdermal implant on the front of my throat
- ears possibly slit and pointed
- back straightened
- possible 3 transdermal implants on my forehead
- various tattoos
- possible lipo on legs
- various scarification procedures
- various tattoos
- possible nose job

>> No.6353849

>>6353795
i wouldn't be surprised if they are dir en grey song lyrics

>> No.6353855

>>6353827
That's marlene's work, she's a very talented artist and also another Gutterworshipper. She even drew/painted a piece of Gutterface at one point.

so yeah, blatantly ripped off, but obviously got away with it by taking advantage of her liking her.

>> No.6353856

>>6353845
>- chest surgery
>- possible bottom surgery

LOL. She probably like NCN thinks that bottom surgery gives you a perfectly normal functioning penis, and that they'll approve you for it without the yucky hormones that make you fat and hairy and ugly.

>> No.6353862

>>6353845

More gold from her old LJ:

>Confession- I have a folder of boys who are prettier than me. Thinner, taller, paler, darker, more graceful... I sit and look at them and make myself sick with how different we are. I tear myself down after a day of building myself up so I can remind myself that Im still not quite right. Not as masculine or cat like. Not as flawless or poised. I 've done this for years. >Ever since i was 12. It hasnt changed and I still let it get to me. I post photos of them and show them to you to see how they make you feel and when they get more of a rise out of you, or any at all, I tear myself down and tell myself that Im not as good as they are.

>Confession- I'm nowhere near as charming and eloquent in person as I am on the internet. I'm shy and easily made nervous when it comes to romance.

>> No.6353863

>>6353787
I am post OP ftm and i also find it offensive but i don't fight people over saying "fag" Most gay guys i know and even lesbians get pissed when people say fag.

I don't know, i don't get gutterface..."HEY EVERYONE IM A FAG"

Okay..

>> No.6353870

>>6353845
The only trans I know could hardly even stand to finish college with the equipment she had been given at birth, she worked two jobs all school year to pay to have that fixed.

I just find it kind of amazing that Joji has a bigger problem with not having fangs, certain tattoos and horns on her head than the big mistake she was given at birth...

>> No.6353884

>>6353827

Gutterface, from her own LJ:

>I honestly feel that when an artist's work is stolen, it not only shows how far society has come, but it shows perfectly how smart people have gotten. They have learned that through little work at all, they too can reap the benefits of a person's thoughts and ideas. You have to be quite cunning to pull that off, and have a face to charm angels.

>Regardless, I stand firmly by my thoughts that theft is a wretched thing when what one is stealing is a soul.

lol.

>> No.6353921

>>6353795
>>6353845

It is Dir en grey lyrics, from the song 304号室,白死の桜 (304 GOUSHITSU, HAKUSHI NO SAKURA). Here's the tattoo text:

止めどなく流れ出す瞳は何かを語っていた
君の香り何故か懐かしいような。。。。
この部屋できっと僕は一人で命無くすのだろう
誰も見つけることの出来ない花を。。。。

(ishiki ga kyou mo usure yuku
kimi wa dare? nani mo omoidasenai
boku no te o tori chikarazuyoi
nigitteru te ni namida ga kobore ochita yo)

Translated:

today, too, my conciousness fades away
who are you? I cannot remember anything
my tears overflowed and fell
onto your hand clutching mine reassuringly

>> No.6353946

If I ever see her at a Dir en grey show, I'm fucking running.

>> No.6353973

>>6353946

I think she's done with Dir en grey not, they're not edgy enough for her anymore.

>> No.6354008

>>6353973
you mean not pretty boy enough lol

>> No.6354033

>>6354008
>>6353973
but they have kyo
he's every vk fan's wet dream (disregarding the fact they're not really vk anymore)

and yeah they're probably too old of a band to be edgy and new. now they're just dir en grey.

>> No.6354041

>>6353746
How does someone get forced into making out with someone else? I don't buy it. sounds like your "gay" friend just regretted it the next day.

>> No.6354076

>>6354041
peer pressure, drugs, so on.

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>> No.6354087

>>6353443
Nah, Brian is totally into some S and M shit and fucked Joji in his little cunt hole. Apparently there are some nudes of her too from him and she has a nice rack.

Also from what I understand Brian was not interested in the fat sister boyfriend and never slept with it.

>> No.6354113

>>6354087

I need these to circulate.

>> No.6354119

>>6354087

Okay, from what I read and can understand, all this shit happened over the course of.... not very long at all. So in a month Brian meets the trainwreck that is GF and decides they're soul mates and in love, and then she goes to live with them and drags her sistercousin along.

Then they were there for... a month? before Brian "bullied" GF out of the place by being abusive and suggesting she get a job or be responsible and she trashes the place. And between these two times they decide that they're so in love that GF takes nudes for him and they have kinky tumblr-porn inspired sex.

Am I correct? If so, no wonder it failed. Not only did he fall for a total nutcase, he did it way, way too fast, before he got to actually know her at all.

>> No.6354125

>>6354087

Does this Brian fellow just call Gutterface "he/him/his" just because she wanted him too or does he believe that shit? Because I don't know how FTMs have sex (binders & shirts on? anal? where does the body dysphoria come in if at all?) or anything, but it seems fishy (lol) to me.

>> No.6354131

>>6354008

True, lol.

>>6354033

Kyo's not a girlyboy visual fag anymore, but it seems now that he's the only exception to the unwritten rule that Jrockers aren't sexy if they look like real men.

I mean, back in their VK days I couldn't give less of a fuck, but now that they actually look like men? Mm, they makes my girlyparts tingle (but ISDGAF about their music).

>> No.6354136

>>6353840
>For real, I would be ALL OVER her if she was just like, not so horrible.
Glad I'm not the only one.
Her aesthetics might not be everyone's cup of tea but she has a talent for hair, makeup and fashion (she also has some nice ink going on as far as I've seen), I like to look at the pics she posts on DA and tumblr, but then I remember what a shitty person she is and just sigh. It's a shame.

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>>6354131
>but ISDGAF about their music

>> No.6354158

>>6354156
I honestly never really liked dir en grey musicwise too. I just went because one of my friends liked it a lot.

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>>6354158
The last two albums have been awesome though

>> No.6354191

>>6354175
Different anon, I love Diru, but I really was not a fan of Uroboros. I don't really keep up with any bands (aside from Plastic Tree, but they're my babies). Is the sound still the same as that album?

>> No.6354253

>>6353631
Shit these bitches are UGLEEH.

>> No.6354295

>>6354175
>>6354191

Uroboros was good, Dum Spiro Spero was equally good. Other than those two the only DEG album I ever listened to was Withering to Death in my weeby days, so eh.

But Kyo's live performances are fun to watch, he's a fly ass dancer.

>> No.6354311

>>6354306
*he was also very drunk

i'm the best at typos

>> No.6354306

>>6354041
>>6354076
He was also very and being squeezed in to dancing with her at the rave. It may have been my own drunkenness but I looked over maybe 3 times and each time, they were making out or her kissing his neck and shit. He was also unaware that it was a girl, and was under the impression that she was a boy (she told him), but his instincts told him it was a female. He was trying to just be open about it because he thought it was just him being turned off at the fact that it looked feminine, but it he didn't know it was an ftm. Once he was sober, he found out that it was an ftm, and it disgusted him. So you're right, he did regret it because he didn't know she was a she.

>>6354136
Maybe one day she'll get the help that she needs and she'll move on from this whole thing. I'd love to be a fan but I can't with her attitude.

She also made a post regarding her parents once, about how she hated her mom for this or that. My best friend was like 'oh fuck that shit.' and posted 'Cheer up, Joji. My mom killed herself.' and then Ayla proceeded to delete the post. She's very stupid.

>> No.6354331

>>6354306
>he didn't know it was an ftm. Once he was sober, he found out that it was an ftm, and it disgusted him

He was probably instinctually repulsed because she's not actually ftm, she just projects all her shortcomings and shit on her gender.

>> No.6354347

>>6354306

She talks so much shit about her parents, even when she makes posts about all the shit they give her she doesn't even act thankful. They even posed in a photo with her holding her hands wearing shirts that said "my son is a tranny". Yeah, they're totally fucking awful, you guys.

>> No.6354361

>>6354295
>the only DEG album I ever listened to was Withering to Death in my weeby days
Oh, I think we can all say that. I do love their oldschool VK stuff, though.

Man, I need to go to another concert. It's been way too long.

>> No.6354369

>>6354361

Uhg, me too, i've been to 2- one in Orlando in 2008 and one in Atlanta in december last year.

They never come near north Florida, and I'm willing to drive to see them but fuck, they cancelled the last tour with that other band and disappeared.

>> No.6354380

>>6354331
This exactly. That's why he said "My heart wanted to say 'sure, give him a chance!' but my penis said 'THIS THING HAS A VAG'" He wouldn't even like an ftm because he is a gay man who likes fucking cock, not imaginary cock.

>>6354347
I am very familiar with Joji's activities and her fabulous parents. She's sooo so spoiled.

She just does douchey fucking things. Like, when I asked her how long she's been stretching her ears she said 'almost a decade.' I mean, couldn't you just say 8 or 9 years? It makes her sound really pretentious. I know that's totally bitchy and pointless of me to point out, but it was just so fucking annoying the way she said it. I'm sure my opinion I already formed of her had something to do with my feelings about it.

>> No.6354498

>>6354380

Have her parents ever hinted at knowing just how fucking ridiculously spoiled and crazy she is?

>> No.6354521

>>6354498
I think they know, but when someone gets that spoiled, disorder or not, there's a point where it's the parent's fault. She feels so entitled to shit. Oh well, she'll have to enjoy being homeless at some point. She probably already has at some point in her totesgoffik lyfe, but whatever.

>> No.6354539

>>6354521

I seriously doubt she has, if so then she would have both bragged about it like hell and have learned how hard life can be when people aren't catering to you hand and foot.

>> No.6354536

>>6354498
>>6354521
Oh and, for the record, her parents are both a little crazy, but still very cool. She posted a picture of her mom when she was 16 and she was a goth kid with black lipstick and like, goth candles and shit. Her dad also said on his first day of work billions of years ago that on the day of his retirement, he would dye his hair pink, and he did. That's kinda awesome imo, but it kinda shows that they're not your average parental units. I'm also aware of Ayla's mother's physical ailments that sorta drain her lively hood. Not sure of the specifics, but they're really serious and painful.

>> No.6354541

>>6354536

Her biological parents or her adoptive parents?

>> No.6354552

>>6354539
She probably wasn't actually homeless, more like 'got kicked out for a week and stayed at a few friend's houses til mom told me to come back home' homeless. Not 'I have to sleep on the streets and carry all of my shit in a backpack in the rain' homeless. It just seems like something that she's bragged about one time or another, probably not touching a lot on it because it's more than likely not true and/or exaggerated to a high degree. Then again, she blatantly lies about numerous things, so I could be wrong.

>> No.6354563

>>6354541
See this is where I'm a little sketchy on the details. I'm vaguely positive that I am referring to her adoptive parents. I could be wrong, that whole situation is a clusterfuck.

>> No.6354597

Vaguely related, but does anyone except for me remember Sith Lord Ali?

For whatever reason whenever GutterFuck comes up, I always think of them being the same person.

>> No.6354612

This chick pisses me off.

>> No.6354630

>>6354597

naw son that's some gaiafag shit right there

>> No.6354647

>>6354597
OH MY GOD
This is a blast from the past, yes I remember Sith Lord Ali from like 2006

>> No.6354651

>>6354597
Haha, showing my Gaiafag age, but SLA was seriously some of the best drama. What ever happened to her after the big reveal? I know she stuck around for a little while, then disappeared.

>> No.6354665

>>6354597
>>6354647
>>6354651

I may regret asking, but... who?

>> No.6354680

>>6354665
>Sith Lord Ali
google that shit motherfucker

>> No.6354686
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>>6354665
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Sith_Lord_Ali

Girl that claimed to be a boy for a while, this was when being scene was in, so the feminine girly-boys were very popular, which is why she was able to get away with it for so long. After a while, though, people started questioning her, and for a while, the GD was split between the, "SLAs a BOY" vs. the "SLAs a GIRL" crowd. She eventually revealed she was a girl, and her popularity began to wane. Then, she just kinda disappeared. I think this all went down in the span of a few months.
You can get more info if you Google it; this is all from memory. There's a lot of info on it; shit was cray.

Pic is her pretending to be a boy, but you can easily find her female pics just by Googling her name and looking at the photos.

>> No.6354703

>>6354686
>boy
>that misplaces nipple
What the fuck was she thinking?

>> No.6354708

>>6354703
selffix, misplaced
Takes too long to delete.

>> No.6354724

>>6354686

I feel like I'm gonna get in trouble if I click that.

>> No.6354737

>>6354651
>>6354647
>>6354630
>>6354597

Talking about Gaiafag fakebois, remember when faunkegin did that shit too? It was actually convincing as fuck with her because she looks like a man without makeup on though. I'm still so pissed my computer deleted the 'topless' pics she had, because that was some perfect shoop.

>> No.6354740

>>6354665
Gaiafag. A wellknown 'boy' in the general discussion forum and popular artfag by nature of his popularity. Shopped a lot of pics to pretend he was a skinny scene boy.

Then it was revealed he had BOOBS. And hahahahaha.

Granted, I'm missing a lot of details, but even my 'boards' had some of the aftereffects when it was revealed.

As background, imagine GD like the /cgl/ without cosplay/lolita. Drama and 'tripfags' everywhere. Lots of pic drops. Was considered a cesspool of wank.

>> No.6354824

>>6354740

Is it just me or is the whole trend of younger girls pretending to be male on the internet just a way to make them seem superior to other girls by being "male"? Because that's what it seems like. If so, then wow, that kind of shit is really misogynistic.

>> No.6354828

>>6354686
Oh holy shit, I remember this...

>> No.6354829

>>6353711
short answer yes you are not as awful as some people but still pretty fucking bad.

>> No.6354869

>>6353443
Not to mention that she used to have a profile on a BDSM website searching for a white male slave.

>> No.6354883

>>6353531
That's not Joji. That's the guy she was mooching off of.

>> No.6354895

>>6353921
...the japanese and the romaji is completely different. the translated part matches the romaji though.

>> No.6354904

>>6353711
Yeah, you sound like you're a bad person to be friends with. But at least you're aware of it. Maybe you should do some kind of guided meditation? Are you at least trying to get help?

>> No.6354908

>>6353745

I find it really amusing how she claims to be a BOY. Never a man. Just a boy. And this is at 22 years old.

>> No.6354940

>>6354908

She claims (or has in the past) to have Peter Pan Syndrome.

Plus, she refers to herself as a man all the time.

>> No.6354941

>>6354883

I am aware. The post was speaking of GF with male pronouns.

>> No.6354942

>>6354895

Well fuck. The kana is the shit from Gutterface's old LJ, that's what her tattoo is. What does it say?

>> No.6354947

>>6353733
>>6353725
>>6353559
W-what's wrong with it? My handwritting looks a lot like that and I'm not a dropout or crazy. ;_;

>> No.6354951

wait, is it looked down upon for not driving?
I'm 25 and i don't know how to drive.
I have a license and i passed the driver test, i just didn't commit anything to long term memory. So out of anxiety and lack of knowledge, i don't drive.

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>>6353443
oh hey I took those caps.
here ya go!

>> No.6354957

>>6354951
Not to sound like a dick but I don't really like people who don't have a driver's license, or don't have a state ID. I know people in their twenties like this.

At least you already went out of your way to take the test and get a license, there are always understandable reasons to why some people can't or don't want to drive. But where I live having your license or a vesicle is a pretty big necessity, and most people who don't have a license or don't drive here also don't have a job or let their parents cart them around for everything.

>> No.6354962

i would give a shit more if she was an anorexic or something. I can't care about a fat girl being shitty.

>> No.6354976

>>6354957
>>6354957
Oh and also if you want to know why that kind of thing bothers me so much one of my neighbors who graduated in the same high school class as me and received a brand new car from their parents as a graduation gift. It's been nearly three years since then and they don't have a license and aren't interested in getting one, despite having driven around and having to commute to University. So instead this car either sits in their driveway or the girl now in her twenties has her parents drive her around in it.

As a poorfag who's had to drive around to college in their parent's minivan and work until I had enough money in my savings to buy a decent car it can really rustle my jimmies. But maybe it's just because I'm not someone that wants to deoend on other people all the time.

>> No.6354993
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>>6353465
he posted his side of the story on his tumblr.
here are some links to specific posts about it

http://tri-b.tumblr.com/post/33780967447/thank-you-for-sharing-your-side-his-controlling-nature

http://tri-b.tumblr.com/post/33798331356/hello-im-terribly-sorry-if-this-is-too-personal-to

http://tri-b.tumblr.com/post/33810911705/yeah-he-commented-on-one-of-his-statuses-on-facebook

http://tri-b.tumblr.com/post/33824909915/you-seem-like-a-good-person-i-wish-i-couldve-warned

http://tri-b.tumblr.com/post/33827518533/what-about-eerie-everyone-talks-about-joji-but-its

http://tri-b.tumblr.com/post/33831222935/so-you-mentioned-that-he-acted-different-offline

also here is a screencap of Guttercunt's response to Brian telling his side of the story.
basically calling him a liar and getting more sympathy from her mindless fans

>> No.6354996

>>6353475
she posts all the time about how "no matter what you've read about me, you don't know me"
and shit like that
and people DO comment on her shit bringing up her kazekai days and all her whiteknights come to the rescue and are like
> dems all 4chan lies!
>Joji is the nicest guy evaarrrr111!!

and shit like that
and then she just blocks them and deletes their comments.

>> No.6355023

>>6353644
no Eeeries tumblr says she's a gay FTM pre-op
you're thinking of Eden, GF's ex fiance person thing that THEY WERE SO TOTES IN LOVE for like a week.

>> No.6355024

>>6353631
ugh I wish Eerie would fucking bind.
christ. dem fat girl titties.

>> No.6355032

>>6355023

Whatever happened to her? Didn't she move in with them from like Washington or something?

>> No.6355042

>>6354908
she recently changed that to man.
she is very adamant that people see her as a man now.
cuz she be growed up

>> No.6355070

>>6354951 So out of anxiety and lack of knowledge, i don't drive.

I was 22 before I got my license. I get you on anxiety. That is why I got all nervous and it felt like my heart was gonna leave my chest whenever I had to buck up and try driving.

But I did it. I spent two weeks driving around an empty parking lot by myself and a week reading the driving book they give you at the DMV.

The FIRST thing I did was go drive to something *I* wanted to do and stay there as long as I liked without no one whining about where they wanted to go or how long I had to look at things.
Plus it really helped me not be a burden to others. If I need something I go get it and not have to wait for someone to go anywhere nor be a pain in the ass and make them go out when they don't feel like it.

Trust me, just drive. Don't be a dick to others and just do it.
Once you get to stay browsing sewing patterns as long as you damn well please or go to that concert and not have to wait for your ride like you are 14 yrs old it clicks and you realize how much more independent your life is with driving. It really it a stepping stone to adulthood you must not skip.

>> No.6355103

>>6355032
no idea. surprisingly GF didnt make a huge deal about their break up and both parties refused to talk about it.
something really bad must have happened though since these two who were TOTES SOUL MATES suddenly stopped speaking altogether.
I think she was only planning on moving in with them though and only visited once or twice like Brian did before moving in with them.
but yeah it was hilarious that GF was all like
EDEN IS MY BOYFRIEND. HE HE HE
when Eden herself was unbound and claimed to be genderqueer.

>> No.6355125

>>6353470
>>6353489

what is up with weebs and, if not going "I'm 100% nihongo guis", it's "I'm half german half nihongo guiss"? Like, is it because Germany and Japan were allies during WW2 or something...?

>> No.6355151

>>6355070
gah, I wish I could do this, I am 22 and looking into getting my license but I don't have a car or anyone who will lend me one so I can learn.
and driving lesions are 80 bucks. per hour.

>> No.6355176

>>6355125

German/Japanese seems to be the coolest hafu combination for weebs. I used to think it was because of Asuka from Evangelion, but not many weebs like that kind of anime.

Maybe it's something about nazi fetishism (like Gutterface), I dunno. I don't understand the obsession with being half German (no offense to any Germans, ofc.).

>> No.6355182

>>6355125

Because claiming to be half is at least a little more believable for white girls, especially generic European white girls with dark hair/eyes.

Either way, Gutterface is half something, but it ain't Japanese.

>> No.6355204

Okay, okay, so let me get this straight:

Joji
-Hates sex and hates anything to do with it
-Wants to be a dude, but not really?
-Has Borderline Personality Disorder
-Lives with her aunt and uncle, not her parents
-Dresses in a "scary" way that isn't attractive by normal standards.

Sounds like SOMEBODY was molested or raped, probably during her formative years. That's what makes the most sense to me. Just think about it:

She dresses goth to appear intimidating and scary to people so they won't get close, identifies as a dude because she feels that they are stronger and she won't be a victim if she's no longer a girl, and tying into that she hates her biological sex which may have ties to her feeling terrible about herself because she feels dirty or less of a person from the abuse, the Borderline Personality Disorder also probably stems from the abuse as well because there are studies linking BPD to PTSD and abusive childhoods, and to further back that up she lives with an aunt and uncle which points that they may have been awarded protective custody.

Poor kid, she is mega fucked-up.

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>>6355182
>>6355176
>>6355125


>*real part German*

A good amount of Americans are part German (1/16 or something retarded like that)
Germans (imo) have either round as fuck faces, or define as fuck faces (so pretty they dont need make up). That being said, she also just looks like a little Polish boy.

>> No.6355238

>>6355217

I'm half German and I have dose defined as fuck angular features, but am manfaced. American, though. and when I say half German I mean my parents, grandparents, and their parents were all born here but somehow managed to only get with other German-Americans until my grandfather married my grandma, who is Irish. Then my father was another half German-American, so I guess that makes me half German. I guess. I dunno how shit works. I know it goes 1/1>1/2>1/4>1/8, etc.

Shit is weird.

>> No.6355240

>>6353446
... I hate her so fucking much. I can't even afford these for school.

>> No.6355250

>>6355204

Her aunt and uncle are her parents, her adoptive parents. Her mother gave her up because she's the drink and party instead of be a mother type. Her involvement in Gutter's life is just like she's trying to be friends with her and get on her good side for giving her up. I'ts kinda sad, really, but it doesn't excuse her behavior.

>> No.6355251

>>6355240

And think, people readily give her those, and money for those, just because she makes up a sob story and asks for it.

>> No.6355256

>>6353446
>>6355240

I'm retarded and not an artsfag, so what are copic markers? I get that they're expensive, but... why? Do they inject some magical 4th dimension into your art if you use them?

>> No.6355259

>>6355070
>It really it a stepping stone to adulthood you must not skip.

I know I'm a ridiculously unusual case, but this makes me sad - I'm 23 with no license because I have a sleep disorder similar to narcolepsy and it's too dangerous to be driving when there's no telling when I may "space out"/have microsleeps.
And it's hard to explain that to people, they just assume you're lazy...

sage for really off-topic. I would double-sage if I could for my self-pity.

>> No.6355267

>>6355250
I will agree that it does not excuse it, but it does EXPLAIN it. Borderline Personality Disorder has strong links to abusive/neglectful childhoods.

>> No.6355276

>>6355259

If you have a legitimate medical condition that prevents you from operating a motor vehicle for the sake of safety, you shouldn't feel bad at all, because it's not your fault.

>> No.6355279

>>6355259
When people ask, just tell them you have narcolepsy instead of going all in depth and stuff maybe? Still, must suck a lot

>> No.6355281

>>6355267

Well it is known that she has a huge abandonment complex.

>> No.6355292

>>6355256

They're awesome because they're basically ink suspended in alcohol. So you can layer and blend them beautifully, and no matter how much you use them they won't damage the paper.

>> No.6355302

>>6355151
>gah, I wish I could do this, I am 22 and looking into getting my license but I don't have a car or anyone who will lend me one so I can learn.
>and driving lesions are 80 bucks. per hour.


Don't wait. The longer you get used to your lifestyle of having to wait for anything you need or want to do the more you get used to it and are less likely to do anything about it.

Ask a neighbor, aunt, cousin, friend, co worker, roommate, anyone. Post it to your facebook that you are serious about needing to learn how to drive. Someone will help.
Make a time to meet up and be serious about it. Do not flake on them. Meet for an hour a week and just drive around an empty parking lot like at a school on a Sunday.

You can't hold down a decent job without reliable transportation. No money means you don't get to do what you want, which makes for a life half lived. Don't set up barriers for yourself.

You've wasted 6 years already. YEARS! Find a way man. Do it!

>> No.6355305

>>6355281
Borderline has a huge abadonment complex. I have known people with it and they are people to avoid.

>> No.6355310

>>6355276
Yeah, I know it's not my fault, but it still sucks - I don't want to feel so dependent on other people, you know? I take the bus as much as I can, but sometimes it's unavoidable to ask friends for rides...

>>6355279
I typically just say "it's a disorder with symptoms nearly identical to narcolepsy", although a lot of people really don't know anything about narcolepsy either. People just tend to be really weird about anything that makes you "unusual" that they're not familiar with, so I don't bring it up if I can help it...

...also, I'm sorry if anyone replies to me after this, my meds keeping me awake have worn off and I'm having trouble keeping my eyes open, so I'm going to bed.

>> No.6355315

>>6355292

Ooh, they sound fancy. How much do they usually cost? are there "cheap" ones?

>> No.6355327

>>6355315

Normal copics (like the ones pictured) are like 400yen each. You can get a cheaper version called copic ciao which are 260yen each. I have both and I'm still not entirely sure what the difference is - as far as I can tell the ciao just contains less ink.

>> No.6355329

>>6355259

That's alright. You have a legit issue. Do what >>6355279 says and just say narcolepsy when people ask. No need to go into details.

In fact I hate it when someone I've know for all of 5 minutes go into their medical history. Just a short succinct answer is all that is needed. I wish people would stop being all special snowflake about their ailments.
Might actually have less people making up shit to seem special and actually go out and do something noteworthy worth talking about instead of letting your illness define you.

But I digress, you have an actual problem and the best thing I think for you to do is live in a place where public transportation is the norm so you can go on with life.
Don't live in hick towns. Live in a major metropolitan area.

>> No.6355332

>>6355327
Oh wait, the nibs are slightly different, and I think they're removable/exchangeable on the normal copics.

>> No.6355335

>>6355251
I... I'm just so upset right now. I'm making means in my minimum wage job I busted my ass to get, and I can't afford these for my illustration classes. My prisma markers are at their end, and frankly primas suck, so, so hard.

>>6355256
They're alcohol markers that are incredibly smooth and easy to use. Small brush tips, easy to blend. They're a dream to work with and pretty expensive. AND they come in every possible shade, tone, and hue you would need ever.

>>6355315
I think the the best deal are the Copic Sketch markers. They're refillable so you only need the but the pen once. I think they're $5 to $7 per markers, and a set of 6 is $30 at the least.

>> No.6355337

>>6355327

400yen is like... 5 bucks if I'm not mistaken. That's expensive? I thought they were gonna be like 20 bucks or some shit.

>> No.6355343

>>6355337

Per pen? Considering how many of these you need to do anything decent, it adds up to being pretty fucking expensive.

>> No.6355346

>>6355337
It adds up. Te least amount of markers I've ever seen anyone need was like... 60.

Artists are just poor in general.

>> No.6355371

>>6355343
>>6355346

Wow, damn. Glad I'm not an artist for once.

>> No.6355398

>>6355335
I actually have a set of 36 copic ciao's along with a case and the white ink used to highlight for free including shipping. Won an art contest held by a small gaming company and my art was crap but, yeah, no competition at all.

They're often used as prizes for these things. I would suggest hunting online since promotional art contests happen all the time and the more obscure, the higher your chances. Anime-related stuff are especially prone to giving copic marker prizes.

Also won a 3DS, a few games (pokemon b&w, kingdom hearts, puppy thing), a few animu figures/dvds/mangas, autographed CDs, posters, etc. All in the same summer.

When in doubt, snatch good deals on ebay~.

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>>6355335

Oh, I'm sorry, anon. If I wasn't a brokefag too I'd literally buy you some fancy markers ;-; like 10 or 12 of them.

>> No.6355444

Fakebois always have this self-loathing, misogynist thing going on. Obviously I'm not talking about legitimate ftms, but most speshull snowflakes I've come accross hate girls. And white people. Ie everything they are.

>> No.6355451

>>6355335
Prismas aren't even that much more inferior to Copics unless you're some faggot weeaboo casual who has no idea how to use markers in the first place. Yeah, if your prismas are almost dead they're gonna suck, as most dying markers do, but more expensive markers from Japan aren't gonna make you a better artist.

But feel better that regardless of what markers you use, you can probably churn out something better than Gutterbitch with her fancy copics anyway.

>> No.6355459

Gutterface (and later Jessica/Aki) is the reason why I was so paranoid about identifying as transgender. I was always afraid of, "What if it turns out I'm just a kawaii nekoneko uke yaoi fake boi?"

...but since starting T, I'm pretty sure that's not the case. My crossdressing /playing dress-up is a sexual role play thing for the bedroom, NOT for efame like these fakebois.

>> No.6355469

>>6355459

I know that feel. Then I found some people to talk it out with that I didn't have to pay to see and I looked inside myself and found my answer. In a way, if I hadn't become aware of fakebois like Gutter, Aki, Blewballoons, and GTC I probably would have gone down the same path. Instead I spent a good year or so trying to figure out if I wanted to be male, or if I just wanted to be treated like one, and if I really wanted to be a boy, or if I just didn't want to be a girl, etc.

So in a weird way every time a fakeboi thread pops up I feel like these crazy delusional bitches saved me from becoming a crazy delusional bitch myself.

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>>6355451
I dislike Prismas because I find both ends of the markers absolutely horrendous. One side is huge and the other is tiny and neither of them do a really good job with what I want them to do. Copics have perfectly sized nibs for both jobs and I found the inks blended better, at least when I used them.

>> No.6355488

Why the fuck would you want a dick if you're not even going to use it

>> No.6355490

>>6355472
THIS
SO MUCH FUCKING THIS
WTF IS WITH THE SIZES OF THOSE GODDAMN NIBS
YOU CAN EITHER USE INCREDIBLY HUGE OR INCREDIBLY SMALL
AND THE INK SERIOUSLY DOESN'T BLEND TOO WELL
BUT COPICS, SWEET LORDY, THEM THINGS IS FIIINNEEEE AS HELL
THE INK BLENDS SEEMLESSLY
AND THOSE MOTHERFUCKIN NIBS ARE PERFECTION

>> No.6355513

>>6355472
ALSO, they're not alcohol based so your paper will eventually get too damp to work with. Weabooism has nothing to do with it, they just fucking suck.

>> No.6355522

>>6353604
my god, it's like looking at squirming maggots

>> No.6355524

>>6353604
What the fuck

>> No.6355531

>>6354686
>the GD
that takes me back...

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>>6354686
AHAHAA OH FUCKING GOD
she became a stripper and a super cool pseudo intellectual~*~*~ all in one swoop after that phase

fucking gd