/cgl/ - Cosplay & EGL

>>10843916
Where can I find cute but actually good quality maid dress? Thanks <3 no taobao bullshit pls I want something actually nice

I ventured out of my comfort zone and got an AaTP dress too long for my standard petti. What brand/length do y'all recommend for between 90 - 96cm dress length?

am i retarded or is it fucking impossible to find shoes suitable for oldschool especially in anything other than black or brown. i just want some nice white antaina platforms or something. everything i find is shiny aliexpress trash or £100 shipping from some shady website. any anons know the answer to my pain or should i just settle for the fact we are inundated by ita cheap garbage everywhere at this point

>>10844018
>white antaina platforms
If this is what you want, why can't you order from Antaina? They have a ton of old school appropriate shoes in white

>>10844018
Just order from antaina. It shouldn't be more than, idk, 70~80$ incl sh.

>>10844014
milky ange

>>10844127
seconding this.

Are you supposed to wear necklace chains over or under peter pan collars? I feel like both ways look stupid

>>10844301
under

>>10844127
I like these, I’m gonna get one, but they’re so chaste I also want something my bf will think is slutty and cute too…

Gulls, you owe me the following:
. sweet lolita thread
. sweet OTT lolita thread
. military lolita thread
. classic lolita thread
. fairy kei thread

>>10844301
under

>>10844346
>slutty and cute
then buy from aliexpress or fredricks of hollywood or something
you're not going to get quality slutwear anywhere

>>10844350
look through archives because there is simply not enough people on this board anymore

>>10844350
why not just fucking make them yourself? no one owes you anything

>>10844371
I don't have the directory nor the knowledge to fish for the right keywords and content

>>10844375
again: no one owes you anything. if you won't take the time and research to do it why should anyone else here do it for you? stop being lazy and lurk moar

>>10844376
>hurrrdurrhurr
yeah I get it, you're a salty retard, kys

>>10843916
What's the best place(s) to look for more "in depth" information on lolita fashion? Brand history, academic papers, accurate timelines, first-hand accounts, etc.

Interested in both English and Japanese language sources.

Also interested in archived Japanese forums discussing lolita circa 2000s or early 2010s. If those are, in fact, something you can find and look through nowadays.

Thanks in advance gulls.

where would i be able to buy a male school uniform/gakuran that isnt shitty cosplay quality
picrel

>>10844378
and you're a lazy newfag that can't even be assed to look through the archives and just wants to be spoofed. fuck off back to facebook

>>10844385
depending on your height, you can find real ones secondhand on jp secondhand shopping sites like mercari or yahoo japan auctions. they cost a bit, but they're real uniforms.

>>10844392
thank you anon i will check out those sites. im about the height and size of a middle/high schooler so i have a good chance of finding something

>>10844386
this is why /cgl/ is nothing but coomer threads now, congratulations

>>10844395
you rang??

im ready to coooooooooom

>>10844394
you'll probably want to look up jp school names and such to find them more easily.

How do I tell newbies in my comm that they look bad in their aliexpress dresses and that they need to put more effort in what they do and if they just want to spend 20$ for a whole coord they will never be able to wear lolita?
There's another member in my comm that is seen as being very knowledgeable but she keeps spoonfeeding them bad infos. Like telling them to buy btssb replicas.
I don't know if there's still hope for them or if I should just quit.

>>10844380
I think Fyeahlolita has some good information on it and a lot of it's quite old too if I recall correctly. There's also a few Tumblr pages with old translated stuff but I don't think I could find them anymore.

LiveJournal also has a lot of old discussions about general goings-on in the community if you're interested in that sort of thing?

>>10844428
you could just tell them directly but be polite about it

Not quite a question but a request to anyone reading, would you mind passing a link or two to artist that you like that specialize or draw a lot of jfashion?
Im mainly interested in mori girl/boy and ouji but I like anything and would like to find some new artist.

>>10844544

>>10844544

>>10844428
If they've been to meets in their aliexpress and seen actually well-dressed lolitas but still wear cheap shit, they either can't tell the difference in quality or don't care. I wouldn't get involved in trying to "educate" them. I'd maybe say something about the replicas though because I thought that was universally hated wtf

>>10844395
No, it’s because you’re too stupid to make a thread, retard

Does anyone know where I can buy or download a digital copy of So Pretty/Very Rotten? Or maybe there's someone who owns it and would be willing to scan it themselves? This book seem impossible to find now, and every active listing I see is like $100+

>>10844632
wow i had no idea, it's so expensive now... that's a shame. i'll try and upload my copy when work slows down. unfortunately the publisher retired so the book is out of print.

Lace Market currently dead?

>>10844632
It's not thar good desu, I was thinking of selling it for 1/4 of that price lol.

>>10844395
No, kys. It's because our jannies aren't cgl users anymore.

>>10844666
For me also dead since yesterday.

>>10844395
kek, tell 'em

Has anyone ever bought teaparties from Sosic Shop before? Any opinions? I want cute flat shoes to wear with lolita but my options are limited in terms of size and I'm unsure about their quality.

>>10844693
Pretty decent. The insoles are pretty hard though with 0 arch support so I put in some gel inserts.

>>10844705
seconding this. They're stiff and flat, so your feet are probably going to hurt without any cushioning soles.

>>10843916
Does any have any advice for getting rid of used lolita socks. They aren't in the bad condition but I feel weird about selling used socks.

>>10844731
Donate them, throw them out, use them as rags. Pick your poison. Ultimately I think it would be better to sell them on LM at a starting bid of $1 though, but I understand being iffy about selling used socks.

Does anynonnie know the socials of the girl in this photo? I found this pic in the archives and have been searching but can't find any account. I like this coord a lot, I hope there are others still online.

>>10844632
A digital copy doesn't exist afaik. If you know Spanish there are a TON of Spanish copies out there for cheap.

>>10844632
Scanning an indie book to share for free is pretty scummy. Support local artists, and ask the authors if they would try republishing it.

>>10844753
kys

>>10844753
There is no way to support them through the purchase of this book. The original publisher went out of business and the two authors have already said they don't plan on reprinting through another publisher.

>>10844753
jane mai has done fuck all in years. she sold her entire lolita wardrobe and left the fashion almost immediately after this book came out. you're the only one who cares

>>10844759
You can always purchase other stuff they do in support silly, they may not always be lolita related but they both do work that is purchasable. I do agree that its an uphill battle to get a new publisher but its not impossible to self publish or for them to release a scanned version themselves if they wanted to.

>>10844772
None of that justifies stealing their work, if they havent released scans its on purpose. Jane isnt the only author btw, it was a duo with the translation of Novala essays by a 3rd person.

>>10844776
thanks sperg, i didn't mention an because she's an ita who can't draw. realize what website you're on and if you care so much go ask them yourself

>>10844776
>its not impossible to self publish or for them to release a scanned version themselves if they wanted to.
but they don't want to, as i previously stated, so it's not going to happen.

>if they havent released scans its on purpose
because the book is in a strange legal loophole of being impossible to reprint because the publisher doesn't exist anymore. the authors might not have the rights to upload a scan themselves.

>>10844776
the authors are cringelords who cares, piracy is never wrong especially in a case where they refuse to reprint it lol.

>>10844784
>piracy is never wrong especially in a case where they refuse to reprint it lol.
this!

Is it safe to dye a cotton garment from brown to black?

>>10844788
Sure, but the threads (almost always polyester) and that lace (looks like it's not cotton) may not take the dye the same as the main fabric.

>>10844737
She's formethereisyou on Tumblr

>>10844753
Giving $100 to a scalper for a secondhand book does absolutely nothing to benefit the authors. It would only be questionable to upload a scan if the book was still for sale. Currently, uploading a scan only benefits the authors because it’ll enable a wider audience to read an out of print book. People who otherwise wouldn’t have sought out their works could become fans -> sales on their other items.

If you actually cared about “support” you’d link the handles of the other authors and share their works that are currently for sale, but instead you’re virtue signaling.

>>10844346
Trashy.com used to fit this description despite the name. Idk if it's still decent quality anymore though.

>>10844633
>i'll try and upload my copy when work slows down
Please do, anon! I'm sure I and many others who can't get ahold of this book anymore will greatly appreciate it, and it's always good having scans of out of print books and magazines available for archival purposes

I just received this stupid headdress but I can't even wear it the way the stock picture displays it, any help please?
The top keeps falling behind and can't stay right

Does anyone have the taobao shop link for YUPBRO lolita?

>>10844863
You could try using spray starch. It helps to stiffen fabrics. You can find it in the laundry aisle. Be careful with it. Since it's starch, it has the potential to attract bugs. So I'd only use it when I want to wear the piece and then wash it out afterwards. My other two thoughts are shove it full of tissue paper or see if you can try to line the middle part with craft foam/eva foam.

>>10844927
Thank you for your help, I'll try it asap!! I've spent hours trying to make it look good but I'm starting to feel scamed like those AP lolitas who purchased the floppy nakayoshi bunny bonnet

>>10844887
Here you go
https://shop585759467.m.taobao.com/?

Hi gulls, I just received a lolita dress in the mail and the BO is unreal. I have no idea how I'm supposed to get rid of the stench on the dress. It's a rare classic piece with chiffon so I don't want to do anything to damage it. I tried to air it out but that didn't do anything. Any tips?

>>10844987
spray on vodka
https://youtu.be/5EwZMAnPIgM

I don't know how this is going to affect chiffon or the dyes in your dress so use this at your own risk

>>10844987
it sounds weird but put it in the freezer in a garment bag. helped save a blouse i got recently

>>10844987
There's this stuff for cat pee smell that works for human odors like this

>>10844987
just wash it with vinegar

>>10844987
just pay for drycleaning if you're really worried

>>10845061
dry cleaning is not that effective at odor removal, the advice to use vinegar and/or vodka + more airing out will be more effective.

>>10844784
Seconding. The authors don’t even care

>>10844863
Kek. Nu Moitie do be trashy

>>10844987
As somoene who has gotten rarer dresses that have had RANK BO in them, it's fairly easy to get out providing you're not dealing with something that runs. (Normally this is cotton prints that have red and sometimes darker colors like black or brown.)

Chiffon is polyester and there's less concern. But always do a swatch test somewhere that isn't noticable.

Soak the dress in a mix of water, peroxide and baking soda. You can also spot treat specific areas with a more concentrated mix of baking soda / peroxide and let it sit before soaking. Then you can wash out with some gentle detergent.

This works really well for removing sweat stains as well, btw.

If there's not a ton of super-delicate items on the dress that aren't removeable, you can put it into a laundry bag after that and let it go through a spin cycle. Then hang to dry it. You'll probably need to steam it a little afterwards.

EU folks, has anyone ever tried to mark down the value of a DHL parcel on Tenso? I usually do it with EMS because they don't ask much informations about the product whereas DHL wants you to specify each item with URL links

Why are lolitas who joined during the pandemic a literal cancer

What height range is lolita best for? I'm not that tall (163cm) but my AP skirts and some of my BABY JSKs sit higher above the knee on me than I expected. Is it just the way I'm proportioned or something?

>>10845339
5'2" is considered the ideal height for lolita, probably because that's the average height of Japanese women

>>10845259
you dont need to do the url unless its like food or skincare. pls read what it tells you

>>10845281
Because they're trend hoppers with no real passion for lolita, most have left my com already

>>10845339
If you're above 160cm then AP and btssb can end a little too high above the knee depending on the dress (source: wonder tea party, personal experience). I'm 164cm I've had more luck with btssb sometimes being a bit longer though. If you have a shorter dress our height is not so tall that you would absolutely need an underskirt, but you can deal with shorter dresses by wearing bloomers and/or longer socks so you're not showing a disproportionate amount of bare leg.

>>10845339
I'm probably an outlier being 180 CM, but I don't really have any problem wearing lolita (though I am used to things being a little short on me so maybe i'm just blind to it kek). I usually buy dresses that are in the 85-90 CM length range anyway (and skirts in the 50-55 CM range) and that's comfortable for me, but I am planning on getting a cute underskirt just as a backup plan. If your dresses are too short on you for your taste, nothing is wrong with an underskirt!

>>10845352
I'm 172, and I don't really have any trouble with dresses being too short. I wear a lot of gothic and old school, so I don't have a problem with showing some leggy. I have way more trouble with dresses not hitting at the waist and often sleeves being much too short. Baby and Meta tend to come through for me for blouses, and I want some more Moitie blouses because the sleeves are quite long but I hate how poly feels.

>>10845356
I also relate to my dresses not really hitting my waist, after a while I just gave up and started wearing skirts lol. Question for shorter lolitas though, do the dresses actually hit your natural waist? Any of you? I'm curious because it never really seems like it.

>>10845366
I‘m pretty short and I often have this problem too because I’m busty and my bust pulls them up :(. Many dresses are already cut high waist though

>>10845366
I'm 160cm and flat chested and most of my dresses sit anywhere from 2 to 5 cm above my waist. I've just accepted it at this point. I'd prefer dresses to actually sit at my natural waist, but it's a unlikely to happen.

Does anyone have any(non-ott) coords saved that use ribbon combs in their hairstyle? or any tips on styling them? I bought some AP ribbon combs because I thought they might be a cute, small accessory for simple hairstyles like the ones Baby does in their ribbon comb product pictures but I severely underestimated how big they'd be (approximately 9 CM/3 1/2 inches wide). Now I have no clue what to do with them.

is a salopette coord lolita? i mean it doesn’t have the same silhouette usually (depending on the salopette and petti i guess). but they are popular. is it about how you coord it? i’ve literally been confused about this for years

Would it be too cringe to make lolita vlog while I have eating disorder? I want to make something to share to my online jfashion&lolita friends (doesnt have to be youtube public video) but I'm afraid my ed will show and it will gross everyone out.

>>10845699
Yes. No one wants to see a holocaust victim

>>10845699
no you should do what you want. idk who would give a shit besides oversensitive freaks with too much spare time ( ie. the majority of the board you’re asking kek)
we’re lacking in lolita video creators anyway

Is there any way to restore tartan that's puckered due to heat, or is it done for?

>>10845699
As long as you don't bring attention to it, you'll probably be fine. Don't body check, don't talk about your size, don't complain about clothes being too big.

>>10845699
Do it anon! It's important to do things you enjoy and engage in your hobbies :) Wishing you all the best!

>>10845699
Since Lolita is modest then it should be fine as long as you don't body-check or have weird weight talks to your audience. It's no different than SH scars in that regard. I think that staying positive and enjoying yor hobbies may encourage you to find help and recover from your ED one day.

>>10845746
>It's no different than SH scars in that regard.
wrong. people with self harm scars are disgusting.

>>10845748
Not here to defend cutters but why you think looking like a Auschwitz victim is perferable to some faded scars on someone's arm?

>>10845755
oh i didn't say they weren't, just that cutters are gross.

>>10845699
If it's a binge eating disorder and you're obese, go ahead! The community will trip over themselves to kiss your ass. If you're anorexic/bulimic and or even just visibly underweight, don't bother.

>>10845627
I have one pair of AP ones as well that I was clueless what to do with as well. I use them to pull back the section of hair behind my ears. I looked up a video of how to use hair combs first. You put them in almost opposite of how you think you would to get them to stay. I can try to find the video again if you'd like. It wasn't a lolita specific video, just ones about regular hair combs, but I found it helpful for getting them to stay in my hair. I leave some hair framing my face and then have the bows pull a small section back up and away from my ears. I don't have any pictures. I hope this helps.

>>10845699
how would your ed show? Your ed is not your weight. If someone is underweight that could be for other reasons. Sure people could assume it's because of AN instead of some other health issue.
If you don't show any ed behavior (body checking, purging, etc) or talk about your ed or do any weird typical red flag AN stuff like go on rants about how fucked up it is that people consider granola to be health food or that anyone above bmi 18 is grossly overweight, etc, you should be fine.

I think there could be a place for content that talks about EDs and j-fashion/lolita in the same context, but obviously not in a pro-ED way. There was a lolita who talked about becoming healthier after going to therapy for emotional eating, although I don't remember her name. That was pretty well received but be careful about posting personal stuff online, even if you choose to talk about it in a recovery focused way it can follow you. Once you put it online it's no longer in your hands.

>>10844753
Buying a copy from a scalper doesnt support the original artist either. Just the person profiting off another work.

>>10845709
You could try ironing it while gentle pulling the fabric into shape

>>10845281
Thankfully most of them have left or gotten bored on my side. Trendhoppers gonna trendhop, so now they're selling their dresses since it's no longer cool to be alt.

>>10845627
>>10845808
Gonna be honest I just put alligator clips on mine and use them like clip in bows

>>10845901
I was honestly thinking of just prying off the little comb teeth and attaching alligator clips to them. I might try that if I really get desperate kek.

>>10845808
I'll look up some videos, thank you anon!

anyone have worn pics of Trompe l'Oeil Lace JSK by IW?

Anyone post reviews on the recent moitie luckypacks? I didn't expect them to do two so close together.

What exactly are sample dresses?

I bought an usakumya a few month ago but never wear it because the bows on its head and neck don't match most of my wardrobe.... Any ideas on how to fix that?

>>10846223
You make them to test a factory or pattern, it isn't really a thing for lolita brands nowadays but it used to be used as an excuse for why replicas had variation from what they should look like

>>10846229
Replace them?

>>10846237
No. Buy an entirely new coord for the usakumya. That is the way

>>10846229
clip some other bows on top of the standard ones. depending on the size of the kumya, they may also be able to wear bracelets as necklaces, hairties, wristcuffs as dresses. also you can get other kumya-themed accessories so the kumya colors can be balanced throughout the coord - kumya hairties, kumya bag, kumya shoes.

>>10846250
this. both you and your kumyas deserve an amazing closet.

>>10846254
How did I not thought about this before! Thank you !

>>10844693
Good, they are hard so I recommend buying a half size up to allow for good insoles.

>>10845366
Even though I'm 150cm, most waists on OPs and JSKs still hit me at the bottom of my ribcage, if not underboob. I got DDs though which also does not help. Moving down strap buttons sometimes makes the dress longer than I like though, creating a whole different fit problem.