Lolita Laundry General

[Anonymous No.10806160]

This is your reminder that stench isn't kawaii.

> what detergent do you use?
> handwash vs. machine wash
> tips for washing prints
> did you wash something and wreck it?
> worst thing you've ever had to wash out of your burando?


A normie handed me their shitty devil spawn without so much as asking me first and it proceeded to shit through its diaper and onto my Moitie skirt and the braindead mombie just stared at me and went "Haha that's what happens with kids sometimes." She gave me $20 to get it cleaned but I'm still mad.

[Anonymous No.10806162]

For you lacemarket merchants

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[Anonymous No.10806168]

I use lingerie detergent for all my lace and socks, hand wash everything (even if it is machine washable)
And the worse I’ve had to wash out of my burando was the built up sweat and grime of mystery Japanese girls

[Anonymous No.10806185]

Maybe this should go in the stupid questions thread but anyway... Does anyone know if there's a list or a blog post or something for finding the equivalent to american brands detergents? You're always talking about specific products that don't exist here.

[Anonymous No.10806231]

Maybe a weird question but I find all my secondhand clothes from Japan have this really nice, light scent. I bought some Attack detergent from amazon.jp on my last SS run and though it smells nice, it isn't the same. Does anyone have any idea what detergent it might be?

[Anonymous No.10806233]

>>10806168
Whenever people say the japanese do not sweat It boggles my mind like then where did these visible pit stains come from? Even if they sweat less theres still years of unwashed dirt all the time

[Anonymous No.10806235]

>>10806233
I think what people mean to say is they don’t smell? Because I’ve definitely had to deal with many sweat stains but the pieces never smelled like BO unlike buying from texaslitas

[Anonymous No.10806240]

>>10806233
japanese people don't produce less sweat and they don't have fewer sweat glands as far as I'm aware. But because of their genetics most of them have far less apocrine sweat glands responsible for that typical sweaty smell.
It depends on this specific gene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABCC11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_odor#ABCC11 that is responsible for determining the amount of apocrine sweat glands and the type of ear wax produced.

Most white and black people will have apocrine sweat glands and will have that sweaty smell if enough sweat is produced and allowed to stay on the skin, and they will have liquid earwax.
Most south east asians have almost no apocrine sweat glands and have flaky dry earwax.

[Anonymous No.10806243]

Honestly nowadays I just put everything in the washing machine on cold water, delicates, with gentle soap. I've even bought older velveteen stuff and done this and it's fine most of the time.

[Anonymous No.10806246]

>>10806240
>be haffu
>don't have the sweat gene
>fucking stink
unlucky!

[Anonymous No.10806258]

>>10806246
You have my sympathy.

One of my friends is half south east asian and got unlucky
-sweats a lot and has that sweat smell
-thick long dark body hair and facial hair
-weird earwax inbetween flaky and wet, also produces a boatload of it and has to get her ears cleaned professionally otherwise they'll gunk up

[Anonymous No.10806269]

>>10806258
i also have weird earwax it's like not entirely dry or wet it comes out in weird chunkw. luckily i have thin body hair. i got wavy jp hair though. it's awful.

[Anonymous No.10806319]

>>10806240
The disgusting BO smell comes from the sweat festering in bacteria on your skin, not the sweat itself. It's why people who wear effective acidic deodorants (not antiperspirants) won't smell at all even if their pits are wet.

[Anonymous No.10806323]

>>10806243
Which soap?

[Anonymous No.10806333]

There used to be an ongoing livejournal post updating with people's experience with washing different prints/specific dresses, is there anything current along those lines?

[Anonymous No.10806341]

>>10806319
not this again. this is wrong.

[Anonymous No.10806346]

>>10806333
No, but brand have largely shaped up since then and don't have the issues with running red dye like they used to.

[Anonymous No.10806383]

>>10806341
Nta but bacteria naturally lives on your skin and is the primary cause of BO with sweat. Doing things to either prevent the sweat (antiperspirant) or kill the bacteria/prevent it from multiplying (some deodorants) or both with a mix in areas like warm wet pits can/will reduce odor. It will not neccesarily affect pit staining though.

[Anonymous No.10806388]

>>10806319
That's what I used to think too, but then I learned about different sweat glands (apocrine vs non apocrine) so I guess to have to go with science instead. It does help if people with apocrine sweat glands don't allow sweat to stay on the skin where it can stew and develop a deeper stank.
That doesn't mean that people without apocrine sweat glands can't have BO though.

[Anonymous No.10806397]

>>10806185
I’ve always just handwashed my brand with regular Woolite and cold water and never had a problem. I think any liquid detergent that doesn’t have strong scents, color, or other add-ins is fine for normal laundering.

[Anonymous No.10806400]

>>10806383
it's not. it can be, but like >>10806388 said it's not the only cause.

[Anonymous No.10806421]

>>10806160 ariel for sure. it makes me feel like a hime in no time

[Anonymous No.10806516]

>>10806383
like >>10806388 said, some of us are cursed. my sweat often smells like spices or onion because of how my body breaks it down.

[Anonymous No.10806660]

Just washed my Toy Doll Box JSK and I've found some stains that weren't there before I washed it. I washed it on it's own, inside out in a garment bag, on a delicate cycle in cold water with a gentle detergent (the same way I wash all my dresses without issue). I've never spilt anything on it or gotten any kind of food/drink in it so I'm totally perplexed how these stains have happened...

[Anonymous No.10806674]

>>10806660

> Satan stained your burando baka

That's definitely weird. Is there maybe anything rusty inside your washer drum? Did anyone wash anything before you that could have left residue? Does your garment bag have any metal bits?

[Anonymous No.10806678]

>>10806674
The washing machine is less than a year old so I dont think it was that (I haven't fully inspected it so I guess it could be) and the only metal bit on the garment bag is still shiny and clean so it's not rust. My partner did the last load of laundry but afaik there was nothing super dirty/soiled enough to leave residue behind...the only thought I had was maybe some of the yellow dye from the print transferred? I got it straight out of the machine and set it out to dry so it wasn't sitting wet for any more than the minute it took me to get to the laundry

[Anonymous No.10806680]

>>10806660
It looks like a small stain, are you sure you didn’t notice it beforehand?

[Anonymous No.10806685]

>>10806660
Could be sunscreen, idk how oxyclean does on brand but that gets it out of normal clothing. Or it could be rust/oil from your machine.

[Anonymous No.10806728]

Does anyone have tips on washing pieces with gold foil as part of the print, like Loyal Rosette? The tag says dry clean only but practically every single tag says that, including on pieces that can be machine washed without a problem, so I don’t trust them. I’m mostly worried about the shininess wearing off over time.

[Anonymous No.10806744]

>>10806728
Don't wash it.

Foil is notorious for crinkling up with creases and peeling off in the wash.

The best you can do at home is soak and then somehow gently dry it. But even that might mess with it.

[Anonymous No.10806760]

gulls. how the fuck do I wash chess chocolate? I have three different versions of it now, and have only worn each of them once since I still haven't figured out how to actually wash them without fearing for the gold foil's life. please tell me i don't have to actually take them to a dry cleaner. will the foil die if i hand wash them? will the print run?

[Anonymous No.10806919]

>>10806760
Sorry to break it to you but I dry clean my CC. Not only will the foil crinkle but you have to worry about the brown lace bleeding into the print. The same happens with Melty Chocolate’s lace.

[Anonymous No.10807010]

>>10806160
> what detergent do you use?
All free & clear, because hypoallergenic & unscented
> handwash vs. machine wash
Depends on the outfit
> tips for washing prints
I have none to offer, sorry. Git gud @ lawn dree
> did you wash something and wreck it?
Not from washing it, but from drying it
> worst thing you've ever had to wash out of your burando?
Red wine

[Anonymous No.10807013]

>>10806243
For the love of God don't take this anon's advice and wash velveteen or you'll end up ruining the pile

[Anonymous No.10807085]

>>10806919
Aw fuck. Thanks nonny for letting me know. Don't wanna take a chance so I'll shell out the cash and get them cleaned, damn it.

[Anonymous No.10807086]

>>10807013
It's better to hand wash velveteen for sure but the main thing is to not use heat on it. I'm tired of people thinking velveteen is like silk or velvet and sending me stinky velveteen dresses.

[Anonymous No.10807107]

>>10806160
>> did you wash something and wreck it?
very nearly, went something like this
>decide to sell a skirt I bought off mercari and never wore
>when taking pics I notice there's a brown stain, looks like tea
>spot clean the stain, find two more
>treat those too, but there's red in the print and it bleeds like crazy
>panic, soak it in oxy clean for several hours, run it on cold delicate cycle with dye catchers
>stains and bleeding come out and skirt looks pristine
>whew

I've been super paranoid about any other prints with red in them since them lol.
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>> worst thing you've ever had to wash out of your burando?
I bought a super yellowed blouse on the cheap and managed to get it back to 99% normal. Some people seriously do not wash their stuff. But I've also received items smelling of lovely detergent, which I do appreciate.
I also washed chocolate ice cream, onions sauce, and a foundation stain out of my dream dress. I swear it's fucking cursed. The first two weren't my fault, the last one definitely was, now I do my make up before I put the dress on.

[Anonymous No.10807109]

>>10807086
Velveteen pills and falls out when it gets wet. Like it'll be ok for a bit of time, but the damage will show soon

[Anonymous No.10807116]

>>10807109
No, that's velvet.

[Anonymous No.10807126]

>>10807085
I know it’s not the answer you wanted but please let my bad experience washing those prints prevent yours from getting ruined.

[Anonymous No.10807150]

>>10807010
Can you please share the drying story?

[Anonymous No.10807155]

>>10806160
How do I remove sunscreen stains from a white blouse?

[Anonymous No.10807158]

>>10807155
If it's cotton;
-try applying an oil cleanser (like for skin care) first on the dry blouse, rub it in, then gradually add water and eventually rinse out.
-then put it in a basin with lukewarm water and some enzyme based hand wash detergent. Follow the instructions on the pack.
-if they're not completely out yet just wash it in the machine on a gentle cycle with some regular laundry detergent.

The stains would need to be very fucking stubborn to survive all of that.

[Anonymous No.10807175]

>>10807150
drying fucks up and shrinks or warps natural fibers, so I'm guessing ti was something like that .

[Anonymous No.10807210]

>>10807116
There's no such thing as velvet in this fashion. Velvet is made of silk, while velveteen is made from cotton. You will destroy both of them if soaked in water. I've accidentally ruined an AP blouse bow by not removing it before washing the blouse.

[Anonymous No.10807217]

>>10807175
Not just drying but even the motion of handwashing or machine washing can cause items to shrink. The friction of the fibers rubbing against one another cause it so agitating it too much manually or in a machine can mess things up. I've had too many BTSSB cardigans shrink to the point that I don't buy their wool or wool-like knits anymore.

[Anonymous No.10807221]

>>10807217
It's largely heat that causes damage. Hence people say wash on cold with less cycles, and air dry.

[Anonymous No.10807225]

>>10807210
Velvet was initially only made from silk. Cotton, linen, wool, mohair, and synthetic fibers can also be used to make velvet.
Velveteen pile is much shorter pile than velvet pile, and instead of creating the pile from the vertical warp threads, velveteens pile comes from the horizontal weft threads. Velveteen is heavier and has less shine and drape than velvet, which is softer and smoother.

>>10807175
that's why they suggest you spread out the drying woven garment into the shape it should have.
With knits you sometimes have to stretch them in shape and put them on a towel to dry.
There is a high chance of them shrinking if you don't do this.

>>10807217
cold water prevents shrinkage. Agitation can cause pilling mostly, even in cotton woven fabrics, but when a woven fabric shrinks from having been washed in either lukewarm or cold water in the machine on a gentle cycle the shrinkage is probably mostly due to the way it was laid out to dry. Don't hang it out, this can stretch the fabric out of shape.
Gently press/pat most of the water out of it with a clean dry towel then lay the garment out on dry clean towels and spread/fan the fabric out completely so the hem lies smooth. Do the same with collars, sleeves and cuffs.

[Anonymous No.10807241]

>>10807210
I have no idea what you're on about. Velvet does exist and no velveteen isn't ruined by hand washing. I've literally taken brand new waist ties from a velveteen dress, handwashed, dried, held it up to the unwashed piece and it looks. Exactly. The. Same. I've washed multiple velveteen pieces from multiple brands and they were literally all fine. You probably washed your blouse bow in hot water, I always used cold water to wash and hang dry and I've never had a problem.

[Anonymous No.10807247]

>>10807210 #
No velveteen isn't ruined by gentle hand washing. I've literally taken brand new waist ties from a velveteen dress, handwashed, dried, held it up to the unwashed piece and it looks. Exactly. The. Same. I've washed multiple velveteen pieces from multiple brands and they were literally all fine. You probably washed your blouse bow in hot water, I always used cold water to wash and hang dry and I've never had a problem. I've even washed just the bodice of a velveteen dress to avoid ruining gold foil print and there's basically no difference between the washed and unwashed parts.

[Anonymous No.10807253]

>>10807247
You can be salty all you want but there's still no way I'm going to test this on my early 2000's meta skirt. Just shell out the dry cleaning money already.

[Anonymous No.10807256]

>>10807210
>There's no such thing as velvet in this fashion.
There is. A few brands have made real velvet pieces, even from silk. MMM, 3F, Cornet, Heart-E, Maxicimam, excentrique, Millefleurs, Putumayo, Jane Marple, chinese brands, smaller indie brands in japan and internationally. It's just that velveteen is so much more common.

[Anonymous No.10807263]

>>10807253
Okay, do whatever you want but I implore people if they're curious to try washing part of a waist tie or something to test it.

[Anonymous No.10807264]

>>10807256
Could you show a real velvet piece? I can only think of velveteen or velour.

[Anonymous No.10807266]

>>10807264
Millefleurs has some good examples of silk velvet pieces on lolibrary.
You go to lolibrary, filter by brand (millefleurs) and then search for velvet.
It's one results page and some are velvet.
https://lolibrary.org/items/millefleurs-stand-collar-silk-velvet-op
https://lolibrary.org/items/millefleurs-silk-velvet-op-0
https://lolibrary.org/items/millefleurs-silk-velvet-op
The text in the image for the first two also says "silk velvet" when translated so I think it's quite certain this is real velvet.

One thing I noticed is that velvet pieces tend to be a lot more drapey and a little more lustrous, whilst velveteen appears more stiff and a little more matte.
One more added difficulty searching on lolibrary is some items are called velvet but are actually velveteen when you look at the notes on the lolibrary item page.
Don't go by the tag, because there is no velvet tag so even if an item is actual velvet it will be tagged with velveteen.

[Anonymous No.10807274]

>>10807266
I don’t think all velvet these days is made from silk fiber, that may be the official definition historically however there’s a lot of “velvet” on the market that is blended, poly, or rayon, made to resemble silk similar to how most chiffon these days is polyester fiber. It typically has a longer pile and is more lustrous than velveteen though.
Interesting that there are some real silk lolita pieces from back in the day though, those look gorgeous.

[Anonymous No.10807279]

I need to wash a red dessert berry op…should I take it to a cleaners? Or just load up a washer with all of the color catching sheets I have? I’m terrified the red will bleed onto the white parts of the print.

[Anonymous No.10807281]

>>10807221
I was referring to shrinkage specifically, not damage. I usually wash things in cold water because I use a specific detergent that works better in cold water.

[Anonymous No.10807285]

>>10807274
Correct. I think that most velvet pieces for lolita are cotton or a blend. To see silk being used is even more of a rarity.
Velvet is characterized by the pile length and the pile being made from the vertical warp threads. It can be made from almost any material.

[Anonymous No.10807307]

>>10807285
this. most fabrics are defined by things like weave or the like, not the fiber. same with things like chiffon, which has been made from polyester since polyester was invented. this is why i can't take anons who say they hate poly/cotton/whatever, you hate the fabric weave, not the material itself.