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>> No.10548173

What is the difference between a baby's first coord and simple, yet stylish coord?

>> No.10548204

>>10548173
I would say the following
>hair is styled properly or effort was made
>no pure white tights/plain pure white socks instead of white lace topped socks
>there is an overall sense of cohesiveness and you can "see" the person knows what they're doing
and one i've noticed on some lolitas but not all
>they're wearing the clothes, not the opposite, they look confident and comfortable although they don't always have that excited smile and eye glimmer newbies have with their first coord

>> No.10548207

>>10548173
doubleposting because i forgot to add they often get those chunky sweet aliexpress shoes and cheap out on the blouse and/or accessories so the overall look ends up looking a tad cheap whereas a simple stylish coord done by someone more experienced will look just right. Even if something cheap was used it won't be as apparent because they know how to make it work

>> No.10548237

>>10548173
the real difference to me is that a babylita coord is more likely to be missing the structure of old school.
>>10548204
>>10548207
brings up a lot of good points.
especially about looking cheap. a lot of noobs tend to mistake the usage of different materials for the allowance of cheap materials. i especially notice this in things that have lace, like blouses and headdresses. there are a lot of blouses and headdresses (maxipad style especially) that look the part, but are cheaply made cosplay items. it's especially easy to buy cosplay crap since most anime lolita is old school, or ita monsters. i've seen nice coords ruined by one bad item time and time again.

>> No.10548253

>>10548204
I've never totally understood why plain tights and socks are an issue?

>> No.10548257

>>10547807
I missed this OP on the one day it shows up on Fril and I didn’t check it :-(

>> No.10548258

>>10548253
I feel like plain tights are too plain sometimes. Even a basic white blouse usually has some interesting details like lace or ruffles. Plain white tights in a coord where everything else has some sort of visual interest is kind of jarring.

>> No.10548259

>>10548253
>>10548258
I agree with this take, however I think old school is one of the few situations where plain tights can work for me- tons of oldschool snaps have plain white tights. So I think it's in the spirit of the style, still.

It depends on the coordinate, though.

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>>10548204
>>10548253
>>10548258
I don't think it matters that much, they usually look just fine. It's actually pretty common in snaps, and even brands used just plain tights, especially meta which is funny bc they're kind of known for their lace topped socks
I don't think plain socks

>> No.10548275

>>10548269
>>10548269
I think there's a noticable difference between a lot of the thick, even toned white cotton hosiery in old school looks compared to cheap blue-white hose available now. It’s not anyone's fault, they're just a bit harder to come by now. (And the cheap blue-white ones look great in some shiro and ero coords like the ones the girl with the poodle apron is wearing.)
Either way they photograph differently and sometimes can look unintentionally very cheap/hookerish and bad if not styled carefully.

>> No.10548282

>>10548275
the white tights I wear are ballet performance tights from a dance store, that I got specifically so they don't look cheap. imo they're nice quality and photograph well, and have 0 sheerness. So if u want some good ones maybe try a dance store

>> No.10548292

>>10548282
I have nice ones already too. I was just explaining why anon might be having difficulty understanding the difference between white tights used well and white tights looking ita.

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>> No.10548328

>>10548173
The difference is that experienced lolitas tend to know what fits them and you won't how much ill-fitting clothes cheapen the overall look.

>> No.10548353

Who else feels like neo old schoolers lack creativeness? In the old snaps there are a lot of non lolita elements because it wasn't so affordable but modern coords are so matchy matchy and neat

>> No.10548356

>>10548353
>because it wasn’t so affordable
Kek that’s not why

>> No.10548358

>>10548356
I guess anon meant available or something like that?

>> No.10548359

>>10548353
>modern coords are so matchy matchy and neat
I don’t know what coords you’re looking at, there’s plenty of neo-os coords that aren’t matchy matchy and there’s plenty of oldschool coords that are

>> No.10548403

>>10548358
Yes, I'm sorry, I have forgotten the word

>> No.10548426

>>10548359
Fucking this. It’s such a stupid generalization

>> No.10548439

>>10548359
this. in fact many old school coords are more matchy because there are more solid pieces.

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>> No.10548653

Newer coords would never be as genuine as old ones because we can never return that era, that vibe

>> No.10548695

>>10548653
weak bait

>> No.10548706

>>10548653
what vibe. explain

>> No.10548745

>>10548706
Vibe of 90s, its fashion, media, music, even politics

>> No.10548751 [DELETED] 

>>10548745
to say newer coords would never be the same vibe, that's obvious; it's 2020. but to say newer coords would never be "as genuine" is just retarded

>> No.10548771

>>10548653
And water is wet, so what?

>> No.10548817

>>10548653
as much as i wish i could disagree this is a good take. i wear old school and love it with all my heart but i'll never be like those girls in magazines and we'll never know peaceful times like the 90s ever again. I'm just trying to cope the best i can

>> No.10548830

>>10548817
>peaceful times like the 90s
jesus fucking christ you’re stupid as fuck.

>> No.10548850

>>10548653
I know this is bait but you're not completely wrong. The difference between newer old school coords and then-contemporary coords is that newer old school coords are, the vast vast majority of the time, created with carefully cultivated social media posts in mind. Contemporary old school coords were street fashion created with snaps and hang-outs in mind. It's a different audience and a different outcome.

>> No.10548891

>>10548830
not everywhere was america you tremendous retard

>> No.10548894

>>10548850
Your take is wrong. New school is seen as superior simply because there were only high quality well designed options available.
Now you can buy whatever awful shitty low quality costume crap that 99% of the time it only looks good in the ads on the short skinny photoshopped Chinese models. Even the original brands are falling into this fast fashion tier shit while keeping there high prices

>> No.10548925

>>10548894
I'm not talking about what is/isn't superior, I'm talking about the difference aesthetics in "new" old school coords versus "old school" coords that were contemporary in their time period.

>> No.10548926

>>10548817
Well, In my country 90s were shitty. Lots of crimes, extreme poverty etc

>> No.10549065

>>10548891
kek i’m not american

>> No.10549180

>>10548891
Yea, take every ex second world country for example. They were falling apart after the fall of the USSR. So peaceful!

>> No.10549925

>>10548313
this is adorable

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Where do you usually get your blouses aside from second hand sites?

>> No.10550058

>>10549936
Are you asking were to buy new oldschool again. Jfc new oldschool doesn't exist unless it's a release.

>> No.10550060

>>10550058
old school is the aesthetic, not the age of the pieces. don't be a fucking moron.

>> No.10550064

>>10549936
Baby releases blouses with cotton lace often. Also sometimes taobao brands have old school-ish blouses. And ofc bodyline

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10/2000

Girl on the right:
赤薔薇ヘッドドレス/個人製作 (Red rose head dress / personal production)
黒モヘアツーピース (Black mohair two piece ) /MIHO MATSUDA
ニーソックス (Knee socks) /Heart E
ストラップシューズ (Strap Shoes) /ノーブランド (offbrand)
逆十字ネックレス (Reverse cross necklace) /antique beast

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>>10550254

Girl on the right:
赤薔薇ヘッドドレス (Red rose head dress)
吸血姫ワンピース (Vampire Princess One piece)/antique beast
赤い雫ネックレス (Red drop necklace)/antiquebeast
コウモリマント (Bat Maant?)/BLACK PEACE NOW
レース手袋 (Lace gloves)/office VAMPIRE
パニエ・ブルマ・オーバーニーソックス (Pannier · Bloomers · Over knee socks )/metamorphose
ストラップシューズ (Strap Shoes)/ノーブランド (offbrand)

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>>10550255
09/2000


イバラ姫ドレス/薔薇ヘッドドレス(黒)(Princess Ibarara Princess / Rose Head Dress)
逆十字ネックレス(赤)(Reverse cross necklace)
以上 all Antique Beast

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>>10550256

Found some ancient blog of a Japanese lolita. I will dump some pics with outfit rundowns

11/2000

Girl on the right:
ラプンツウェルのヘッドドレス (Rapunzel headdress)/Antique Beast
バラレースパフスリーブブラウス (Rose lace puff sleeve blouse)/victorian maiden
別珍前編み上げジャンパースカート (Velveteen front knitting jumper skirt)/metamorphose
パニエ・ドロワーズ幅広レース・オーバーニーソックス (Panier · drawer wide lace · over knee socks)/metamorphose
別珍バッグ(黒)(Velveteen Bag (Black)/Alice Doll

>> No.10550402

>>10549936 maxicimam is pretty great

>> No.10550407

>>10550255
>マント (Bat Maant?)
Manto, a mantle or half-cloak basically

>> No.10550565

>>10550255
Anyone knows what doll this is?

>> No.10550586

>>10550565
She is holding the arm in that position so I dont think it is an old Volks doll (they did a lot of lolita collabs) or other resin jointed doll. Maybe a soft-bodied bisque doll, but the legs look too shapely. I'm really not sure. :s

>> No.10550598

>>10548850
You do realize that girls dressing up for street snaps is pretty much the same thing as girls dressing up for Instagram likes, right?

>> No.10550603

>>10550598
There's a significant difference between the thought process behind dressing up to hang out with like-minded individuals (and likely, a group of friends) at what was--at the time when old school was contemporary--a niche, trendy alternative fashion spot where specific niche fashion magazines would sometimes take your photo and dressing up for Instagram, Tik Tok or similar social media.

>> No.10550736

>>10550258
This is great, thank you

>> No.10550739

>>10550060
y

>> No.10550815

>>10550603
How do you know what other peoples’ thought processes are? It’s not like going out with friends is an option in many places right now, and a lot of people are more or less limited to a digital connection with the outside world.

>> No.10550838

>>10550815
anon clearly just wants to have super exclusive obscure taste. how will she be special if old school becomes more popular?

>> No.10550862

>>10550586
Thanks anon. I thought Volks but i wasn't sure at all. She looks absolutely stunning and i am in love with it i need to get a Volks this year seriously

>> No.10550902

>>10550862
I've stared at it and asked my doll friends and I'm 99% sure it is indeed a bisque soft body now lol. But yes, Volks makes beautiful dolls and I love taking them out in lolita w me for the ~old-school vibes~. I recommend Mandarake for a big selection or full choice on USA site.

>> No.10551707

>>10547804
Fuck! What is wrong with her stupid legs. I want to put braces on the damn things to straighten them up.

>> No.10551713

>>10551707
>What is wrong with her stupid legs
She has one knee slightly bent and the other leg completely straight. Are you okay?

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>>10551713
My legs are okay. Hers look like she has cerebral palsy. This is not cute.

>> No.10551730

>>10550815
Why do you assume I'm only talking about outfits posted in 2020 and 2021...? The old school revival has been a thing for a while now.

>How do you know what other peoples’ thought processes are?
I can't tell if you're being obtuse or if you genuinely think that we can't study and compare fashion subcultures because "like, you don't know what people are really thinking!"

>> No.10551733

>>10550838
Are you okay? You're projecting all over the place with this. I don't care who wears what. I'm not talking about is or isn't special. I'm not saying, nor did I ever say, one is better than the other. I'm just literally talking about aesthetics. Contemporary old school is aesthetically different than modern old school looks. The same way that contemporary 1970s fashion is different from modern 1970s fashion looks, with the added bonus that old school lolita was rooted in a specific type of 90s/early 00s street culture that modern lolita is not limited to.

>> No.10551736

>>10551733
Yeah, no shit

>> No.10551737

>>10551725
Not your legs, are YOU okay? You seem really pressed about a bent leg, I'm worried about you.

>> No.10551741

>>10547804
I have the same jsk and its quality is so awesome

>> No.10551774

>>10551737
It's barcode-chan projecting again. Don't give her the attention.

>> No.10552004

>>10551737
>>10551774
I'm a dude. Girls posing like this are are endearing as pictures of children with fucked up teeth.

>> No.10552008

>>10552004
>I'm a dude
thanks for clarifying, opinion discarded

>> No.10552048

>>10552008
Lol, you sound like /r9k/. "You are a woman. Opinion discarded."

>> No.10552091

>>10552004
Fuck off, scrote

>> No.10552740

>>10552004 you really think girls pose like that to be endearing to you? Fuck off mate

>> No.10554333

Requesting brown coords

>> No.10554423

>>10554333
Poop coords

>> No.10554449

>>10554423
Why did this make me laugh

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>>10554531
end poop coord dump

>> No.10554603

>>10554532
Ty, anoness!

>> No.10554648

>>10552091
Make me.

>>10552740
Why are they doing it then if not to look more appealing.

>> No.10554707

>>10554648
Lolitas are disabled and/or mentally retarded. That's why they stand like that.

>> No.10554993

>>10554518
Brown x pink looks so cute

>> No.10555011

>>10554707
I'm starting to believe this. They are toxic, they form cliques and they dress like toddlers. Their brains have carked it.

>> No.10555077

>>10555011
Have you seen at least one toddler, retard?

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can you gulls stop squawking at bait and post

>> No.10555173

Whenever I see old street snaps it makes me wonder where those girls are now. They have to be in their 30s and 40s now. I hope they're still enjoying the fashion or look back on it fondly.

>> No.10555175

>>10555173
I always wonder the same.

>> No.10555180

>>10555173
A good portion of my old school was bought off of adult women who found it in the back of their closets and unloaded on fril/yahoo auctions at a low price. It's unfortunately very common for japanese lolitas to graduate/age out before they turn 19 due to societal expectations.

>> No.10555190

>>10555180
They can't graduate that young right? I know it's a different culture but I can't imagine teenagers being able to afford such giant wardrobes of expensive clothes. Part times are less common for Japanese high schoolers too, aren't they?

>> No.10555191

>>10555180
>It's unfortunately very common for japanese lolitas to graduate/age out before they turn 19 due to societal expectations.
This isn't true at all. Most lolitas in japan are parasite singles who work part time jobs at age 25 and live at their parents house doing whatever they choose with their money.

>> No.10555201

>>10555191
I wouldn't call it parasitic when in Asian households multiple generations living under one roof is super common, especially if the young adults are unmarried women.

>> No.10555208

>>10555190
>>10555191
Iirc several magazines interviewed teenage lolitas and asked them when or if they intended to quit lolita and most answered by the time they were finished with highschool.
In FRUiTS the ages of girls in full brand are often 12-16. Most adolescents are given allowances and also get money for doing well in school. Oftentimes being allowed to dress alternatively is conditional on their grades.
The ones who go on to wear lolita as adults are more often tattooed, facial pierced punks who work in bars, alternative clothing stores, or models for harajuku fashion brands as a low paying career much to their parents disappointment.
Not all lolitas "graduate" but it is simply the most common occurrence to either wear otome brands/pink house as they age, or quit lolita entirely.

>> No.10555210

>>10555191
>parasite
I found the smelly American fatty chan

>> No.10555216

>>10555210
I bet anon jerks off to 2D

>> No.10555240

>>10555208
>most answered by the time they were finished with highschool
That may be what they thought then, but it doesn’t necessarily mean they did. I thought I’d stop wearing lolita when I graduated college, but five years later I’m still here.

>> No.10555323

>>10555201
>>10555210
it's a term coined in japan, anon. jesus how old are you?

>> No.10555325

>>10555216
>>10555210
>>10555201
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasite_single
How fucking embarassing. Anon didn't come up with that.

>> No.10555328

>>10555201
They don't do that in Japan, anon. Japan is obsessed with nuclear families.

>> No.10555331

>doesn't know the term parasite single
>think chinese values are the same in japan
>but anon, the girls in the magazines said they would stop wearing lolita after x age

this is truly the y2k fashion of lolita.

>> No.10555333

>>10555208
It's pretty well known a lot of the girls in FRUiTS lied about their age to seem younger

>> No.10555382

Why do lolitas chose to quit the fashion after certain age if lolita used to be a protest against such patriarchal believes?

>> No.10555384

>>10555382
That kind of meaning was only attached to it by westerners. Most lolitas in Japan didn't attach any deeper political meaning to their fashion choices, beyond the typical teenage rebellion.

>> No.10555390

>>10555382
>protest against such patriarchal believes

Where did this idea even come from in the first place? I see it parroted so often that I'd love to read up a bit more on the topic

>> No.10555415

>>10555333
Where though, cite that.

>> No.10555419

>>10555384
??? That's not true tho ?? Lolita literally started as a societal norm rebellion as a way to say fuck you to their depressing work environment and dumb gender roles ??? You might as well call lolita an emo phase if u believe that anon.

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Anybody know who this is?

>> No.10555445

>>10555419
no it didn't

>> No.10555452

>>10555419
Lolita is emo.
>inb4 cutting myself girl was an outlier because she clearly was the norm.

>> No.10555455

>>10555419

Please leave and come back when you're over 18.

>> No.10555458

this thread turned into a dumpster fire again. honestly lolita never started out as a political or feminist movement. you guys are thinking gyaru/yamanba, which has lots of documentation about how it's meant to purposely disgust men and piss people off. lolita has none of that documentation.

>> No.10555466

>>10555458
Lolitas were just vkei cosplayers desu. They all hung out together for a reason, it was always treated like a cosplay until Novala wrote kamikaze girls and had people believing you could wear that dumb shit on the reg.

>> No.10555476

>>10555466
who said you couldn't tho

>> No.10555486

>>10555476
Nobody said you can't. Learn 2 read.

>> No.10555491

>>10555486
>implying that people believed they "could"
ok so are you saying that they shouldn't

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>>10555491

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Just post more you humongous dykes

>> No.10555650
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10555650

Instead of taking bait look at how cute this shit is

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>> No.10555779

>>10548269
odd question but do you have that third image in on its own? the meta blue rose gobelin coord? i fkn love it

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>>10555779
Not anon but I just saved this like yesterday.

>> No.10555785 [DELETED] 

>>10551707
she's just got bowed legs calm the fuck down it's common

>> No.10555791

>>10555425
pretty sure that's emi arisaka! she makes excellent music~ would especially recommend kamikaze girl in paris, it's one of my favorite songs~

>> No.10555793

>>10555782
tysm you're a star <3

>> No.10555794

>>10555656
i love this one sm! feel like so rare to see such bright colours in oldschool snaps! this one makes me so happy *^^*

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>>10555794
Aye, they are indeed pretty good. Glad that made you happy anon.

>> No.10556778

Why Nazi-chan isnt cancelled yet?

>> No.10556781

>>10556778
No one cares, post pics or old school discussion

>> No.10556785

>>10556778
Doesn't matter that she's edgy because she doesn't virtue signal and pretend to be woke.

>> No.10556789

What are non old school elements you love to use in your old school coords? For me its an Usakumya bag

>> No.10556796

>>10556789
Modern makeup

>> No.10556823

>>10556789
I think the Neanr jewelry goes nicely because it has that imperfect handmade look

>> No.10557143 [DELETED] 

>>10547804
.gg/T7fYZ8DfBB

>> No.10557191

>>10556789
fishnets and heavy liner

>> No.10557214

>>10557191
Those were both popular, see any moitie fan.

>> No.10557221

>>10556789
modern rereleases of old school accessories. I know that's technically considered old school but my autistic ass brain can't say that those rereleases are genuine old school.

>> No.10557225

>>10556789
>Usakumya
anon what are you on, Usakumya is from 2001 and they started releasing the bags in 2005

>> No.10557228

>>10556823
Neant*

>> No.10557261

>>10557225 the design has changed a fair bit since the beginning though, so possibly op was talking about using a modern version

>> No.10557392

>>10557261
Yep, i meant a modern Usakumya. I wish i had an old one

>> No.10558580

I love old school so much but hate whenever I see it on insta for some reason. I feel like I haven’t seen an os coord I’ve liked on there in a really long time.

>> No.10558740

>>10558580
We get it new old school is bad

>> No.10558843

Imagine, you can travel to old school era Japan with a time machine for one day (24h). How would you spend your day? Lets imagine you can perfectly speak japanese somehow

>> No.10558850

>>10558740
Nope, that's not what I feel or said.

>> No.10558862

>>10554522
What this op called?

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>> No.10558893

>>10558862
It’s called go away

>> No.10558897

>>10558893
found the edgelord

>> No.10558902

>>10558884
i love that ties are tied loose

>> No.10558915

>>10558902
I love that look too, but it's so damn hard to get headdresses to stay unless you sew combs into them

>> No.10558926

>>10558893
youre too fat for it anon. no shirring.

>> No.10558929

>>10558862
It's not on Lolibrary, but I'm pretty sure it's a Baby OP

>> No.10558966

>>10558915
in my experiense, if you tie ribbons behind ears, it stays in place pretty well

>> No.10558967

>>10558915
just use bobby pins if it's an issue

>> No.10558968

>>10558843
id probably make sure some glb photographer catches me taken a shit on the street in full ott
id be legendary
no one would ever forget

>> No.10559049

>>10556778
She’s low profile, no one would get followers out of canceling her and since she’s not openly nazi, no one seems to be bothered enough to go through the trouble without gaining something in return.

>> No.10559368

>>10554521
That bag is really cool but whenever I see it coorded, it seems almost too big/dominating. I’m not sure how that could be helped though

>> No.10559585

>>10559368
Maybe some people like to be dominated

>> No.10559628

>>10559049
That’s so depressing. Literally goes to prove that the hate cancel abuse train towards Lor and pretty innocent lolitas of the past is just cloutchasing from WF and similar people. If they REALLY cared there’s no way in hell nazi-chan would be allowed to continue being popular. Fucking disgusting

>> No.10559665

>>10559628
There isn't any conclusive evidence that she's a nazi. Anonymous posts don't count.

>> No.10559673

>>10558843
Is buy all the cheap secondhand oldschool before it became expensive and worn to shit

>> No.10559677

>>10559049
Sauce?

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>She also crossposted to her FB and the feels thread about wearing Die Walkure to university to “trigger the SJWs” when she first got that set. She’s an edgelord too, just one who has learned to keep it to herself.
>She definitely bought D.Walkure because of her political opinions. She fits right in with those that browse /pol/. She likes that its controversial because it "triggers the snowflakes".
>There is one girl who wears D. Walkure but she is one of those people that loves starting drama to "piss of the SJWs".
>she talked on this board at some point about wearing die walkure to uni to "trigger the libs" and wanting to start an alt-right/hyper-conservative lolita comm at some point

from Nef,supposedly:
>Can we just clear this up once and for all? I'm not a nazi and I've never been on /pol/. I made some dumb shitposts about triggering SJWs a few years ago that could easily be traced back to me because I think people getting upset about a pin on a Meta hat is stupid.

>> No.10559723

>>10559703
unless you have caps of the fb post this isn't credible

>> No.10559735

>>10559723
didnt say it was. this is merely why she's called a nazi every time she posts, and an alleged response to the claims that got posted, all from the archives.

>> No.10559778

>>10559703
Da poifect broad

>> No.10559911

>>10559665
There’s no proof, but accidentally liking a photo on ig started a shit show while no one talks about this girl being at the very least a problematic edgelord, at least not outside of cgl and the reason that is is, again, because canceling her wouldn’t be generating views for anyone besides herself.

>>10559628
She isn’t really popular though, if she is smart she won’t be working towards being popular because the very moment any of the performative woke lolitas realizes that they will get something out of canceling her we can expect a fiasco worse than Deedee’s

>> No.10559937

>>10556778
also, people like her coords. it's a lot easier to shit on someone ita.

>> No.10559950

>>10559703
Everyone posts this image but not the one with the swastika coffee mug.

>> No.10559952

>>10559950
Feel free to post it so it pops up easier when you search nef on the archives

>> No.10559962

>>10559950
kek

>> No.10560005

Can't believe /cgl/ has been talking about nazi-chan for years when literally nothing has happened to fuel the fire. Either cancel her like you all say she should or shut up.

>> No.10560008

>>10559665
Hi nef

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>> No.10560511

>>10560005
she doesn't seem to be in a position to cause anyone harm with her dumb takes, so I just kind of ignore it but keep it in the back of my mind as context in case she ever actually does something harmful.

>> No.10560625

>>10560005
Honestly I’m fine with her not getting cancelled, I want her to still posts cause I really like her coords but people should still be educated on it and be able to make up their own minds on whether they still want to support her or not

>> No.10561077

all I want to know is who else has that dress that's keeping secrets. its a red flag.

>> No.10561080

>>10561077
Agreed but FYI It’s not just the dress that outed nazi-chan; she’s definitely alt-right and her boyfriend is a /pol/tard too

>> No.10561081

>>10561080
Ew then yeah cancel her. All openly right-wing lolitas should be cancelled.

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Why must you shit up the thread with the same circlejerk about cancelling and gossip

>> No.10561092

>>10561086
This hair looks so beautiful with this outfit

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>> No.10561107

>>10556778
sorry for being a newfag but who the hell is nazi-chan? is she on instagram?

>> No.10561120

>>10561107
her IG @ starts with nef and she wears old school, she's privately a huge edgelord

>> No.10561122

>>10561096
What a sad looking muff

>> No.10561133

>>10561120
thanks anon. had seen her around a ton before but never really went through her whole feed. and like clockwork, d walkure sure was there

>> No.10561177

>>10561081
not subscribing to your personal political alignment isnt reason enough to cancel someone you absolute retard. eventually these threats of cancellation will mean nothing when everyone is cancelled for everything.

>> No.10561180

>>10561177
“Everyone is cancelled for everything”
Babe, she’s literally a nazi

>> No.10561186

>>10561180
>>10561133
>>10561107
can you guys like find something interesting to do or at least move it to some other thread

>> No.10561191

>>10561180
was only talking about how anon stated that people who were openly right wing should be cancelled, i dont give a rats ass about Die Walkure or whatever it is you all cant seem to let go of.

>> No.10561230

D walkure coord inspo thread when

>> No.10561255

>>10561230
never because everyone here is 12 and they'll go on a witch hunt

>> No.10561285

Why do you guys take the bait every fucking time? Another thread ruined.

>> No.10561292

>>10561285
the old school thread in itself at this point is bait, why we continue to have them and pretend like a discussion ever happens for more than 4 seconds is just silly

>> No.10561298

>>10561292
>the old school thread in itself at this point is bait
why though?

>> No.10561404

>>10561122
i thought you meant muff as in vagina and i got worried

>> No.10561447

>>10561404
you brits say this every time

>> No.10567839

rip old school

>> No.10567847

>>10567839
good

>> No.10568011

I have a bodyline dress I really want to coordinate in old school way, but I’m struggling. This thread is the only thing that’s given me any ideas.

>> No.10568013

>>10568011
what dress?

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>>10568013
This dress, it’s not nearly as red in real life (don’t know why bodyline fudged the colors in this pic). I know I want a white blouse and brown shoes but I’m blanking on everything else

>> No.10568025

>>10555683
Anyone know what shoe this is?

>> No.10568037

>>10568016
Just burn it

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>>10561230
>>10561255
no die walkure thread pls. because you don’t have to be woke to acknowledge that its fucking ugly as sin. “military lolita” does and always will look like cosplay

>> No.10568175

>>10568016

that fabric had so much potential.... jesus fucking christ.

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10568215

Can I request some old school coords with sweet colors? Like pink or sax? I recently got an old school pink dress and I'd like to do more interesting coords than just wearing it with all white items, but I'm not quite sure how.

>> No.10568233

>>10568215
Is it your first dress? Also post pic

>> No.10568245

I got an old-school dress from ETC because I really love the dress but I actually don't like old-school at all and now I don't know how to coord it

>> No.10568331

>>10548282
Thanks for the tip

>> No.10568349

>>10568037
I fully acknowledge that it’s ugly. I just happen to still love it

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>>10568233
No, I've been in the fashion for a while, I just mostly wear generic AP sweet stuff that involves lots of colors and patterns, something this simple is new territory.

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>>10548269
Thanks for the collage anon.

Can anyone ID this cape? I saw it year ago in this photo and forgot about it until now. I have a mighty need however couldn't find it on lolibrary.

>> No.10568446

>>10568441
It's in an AP ad in a glb but I forget which issue

>> No.10568449

>>10568446
Thanks anon. I'm so happy I saw it again. I looked through all the cape with the tag of fur and it didnt pop up so I guess it's not known. If worse comes to worst, I might just sew some pompoms onto a cape.

>> No.10568458

>>10568441
A lot of older lolitas used to add their own accessories to items to make them unique. It’s possible she just added pompoms

>> No.10568473

>>10568245

Which one, anon? Maybe you can just coord it with more modern accessories.

>> No.10568482

>>10568245
Just sell it to me anon

>> No.10568533

>>10568081
This. It's such a fucking dumpster fire looking outfit that I laugh every time I see it and I'd crawl through broken glass for Meta. It's neither a good nazi uniform nor a general military uniform and looks straight out of the Leg Avenue costume section a Spirit Halloween.

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>>10568425

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>>10568645

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>>10568645
hope at least one of these is of help

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>>10568648
found a couple more

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>>10568648

>> No.10568661

>>10568025
They're by Miho Matsuda

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>>10568441
I'm pretty sure it's this Baby cape, must be from around 2001 judging by the photos I have of it

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>>10568664

>> No.10568847

>>10568652
Thanks so much anon, these are so delightful! I wish old school in colors aside from black was a bit more popular, the soft lace and pretty details look so pretty paired with pink!

>> No.10568898

>>10568664
>>10568665
Thanks so much anon! I'm now on the lookout for a white fur cape to try and make this. It might look trashy but I have a need. I looks like in this one >>10568664 that they've added the BTSSB logo too but I can't see that on the original photo.

>> No.10569005

>>10568898
It looks like they removed them because the spaces are there

>> No.10569015

>>10568661
Thank you based anon

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Does anyone have bigger scans from that old metamorphose calendar? I remember seeing them around long time ago but can't find any anymore

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10569696

Looking for a full higher res version of this Innocent World ad, the one I have saved is so crusty and this is the first time I've seen it in better quality

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>>10569696
From KERA vol. 32

>> No.10569761

>>10569750
Thank you so much, anon!

>> No.10570113

Is proto lolita a legitimate sub style apart from old school? When I looked through the ig tag, it looked a lot like normal old school but maybe a bit more casual, but maybe I'm missing something? Are there any good examples by current lolitas you guys would suggest looking at? I'm just trying to understand the style and what sets it apart from old school.

>> No.10570125

>>10570113
This sounds like one of those things a blogger made up for their own style and a bunch of hangers-on decided to start tagging too, like back when witchy mori/witchy-kei was briefly a thing on tumblr. I don't think it's real.

>> No.10570129

It’s sad that if lolita wasn’t filled with a bunch of toxic entitled bitches picking apart every tiny detail about a coord, we could still have fun old school coords.
While, sure, some ita outfits are funny, people just hate way too much on everything (often not even outfit related) and ruin the fashion cuz everything has to be 100% kawaii milky chan perfect.
>inb4 you a whiny fat ita comments
I don’t even wear lolita, but love the old school fashion.
These days it’s just an AP circlejerk though.

>> No.10570216

>>10570113
Proto isn't a substyle, it's a descriptor. Like neo for example. It's tagged on coords that look "90's" or something(?)

>> No.10570233

>>10568016
Ahhh I have this dress too anon! I know I'll look like grandma's couch but idc, I think it looks great haha. I have it in purple, and you're right, in person it's a much nicer wine colour. I'm planning on coording it with a blouse and shoes in the same shade, and maybe nude rose patterned tights. I don't like how they made the waist ties the same colour of the dress, I'm thinking of cutting them off to turn into accessories or adding a ribbon or belt on top.

>> No.10570251

>>10570216
newfags and snowflakes use proto as a substyle for old school tho.

>> No.10570271

I miss when crowns were the emblem of lolita

>> No.10570382

>>10570129
There are still some lolitas that put out fun old school coords. But I agree with your sentiment.

>> No.10571044

>>10550258
Got a link to the blog anon?

>> No.10571065

>>10570251
wdym?

>> No.10571075

>>10555656
Oh wow, I think I own a blue version of this skirt!

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>>10568473

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>>10571482

>> No.10571732

>>10571721
I feel like the basic idea of pic rel could work, like chunky mary janes (in either red or white), white ballet tights, red/white head bow or ribbon, and maybe a detachable white collar if you want

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>>10571732
dropped pic

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>>10571741

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>>10571751

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>>10571754

>> No.10572014

>>10558884
Dress name?

>> No.10572041

>>10572014
Shit bait

>> No.10572042

>>10571741
This girl has gone through every fucking lolita phase I swear

>> No.10572144

>>10571482
Oh I had my eye on that but I have a few other ETC dresses that were too similar so I resisted kek. Hope you figure out how to coord it; it seems like a versatile dress.

>> No.10572171

>>10572042
No shit

>> No.10572203

>>10572042
That’s not lolita

>> No.10572254

>>10572203
Point still stands

>> No.10572286

>>10572041
Old school lolitas are truly insufferable, huh

>> No.10572291

>>10572286
how is calling bait for what it is insufferable? this is one of the most well-recognized dresses and even a reverse image search would yield an answer. lazy bait.

>> No.10572298

>>10572291
I was away for a year or more and I can't believe the state of this board. I'm by no means oldfag but there are clearly so many newfags around now. People sending their condolences to the anon posting about the ironing board cover was the first thing I saw when I returned. No wonder these threads turn into shitty arguing about artificial timelines and such nowadays, though I have to admit complaining about Ophelia in these threads has been going on for years. Idk if this is even a bait considering all of this.

>> No.10572305

>>10572298
Stop embarrassing yourself already and just take yourself to the stupid questions thread

>> No.10572307

>>10572305
nayrt but nice job proving a point

>> No.10572310

>>10572298
ayrt the bait in question was regarding a popular dress, i wasnt even making a reference to the obvious low hanging fruit.
maybe you should stay away for another year or more?

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>>10572307
>throwing a tantrum to be spoon-fed

>> No.10572314

Anyways, that CC update was pretty good... it's too bad I wasn't awake for it.

>> No.10572316

>>10572305
>>10572312
Anon you got me wrong. I was agreeing with you, not saying you are an embarassment or newfag but it's more than possible that was not bait considering what's going on here.

>> No.10572320

>>10572314
i've given up on CC entirely, its just not worth the stress or hassle anymore. the notification emails go straight to the trash.
inb4 MoAR 4 mE.

>> No.10572411

>>10571482
I would wear it in a normie way

>> No.10572419

>>10572411
what normie would ever wear that

>> No.10572420

>>10572314
I was there for it and still couldn't get anything, I'm convinced bots are buying up everything the moment it goes up for sale. Missed a cheap wishlist item too

>> No.10572432

>>10571482
I feel like this could look nice with an apron, or maybe more beige-ish normie shoes life loafers

>> No.10572445

>>10572014
Millefeuille JSK. Don't mind the spazs

>>10572286
Tbh i find the whiners in those threads to be even more insufferable. Idk why you guys love old school yet foam at the mouth at anyone wearing it. Are you too fat for it? Did they steal your dream dress?

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>> No.10575009

>>10574931
>>10574932

>Baby, the Star Shine Bright
>Innoccent World
Why is that so endearing

>> No.10575036

>>10575009
There is an angelic pritty page also

>> No.10575044

>>10568665
this sparks a lot of joy, does anyone happen to have more coords with the old usakumya?

>> No.10575061

>>10575044
Do u want me to post a pattern?

>> No.10575073

>>10575061
I'd love one anon!

>> No.10575091

>>10575073
Posted in the new thread >>10575087