Lolita General: Plush Bags Woes Edition

[Anonymous No.10531104]

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[Anonymous No.10531124]

>>10531032
>>10531065
Okay, now I feel a bit bad for my unapologetic tune. But what edition do you guys have?

[Anonymous No.10531136]

is tenshi on break or smth? i've requested stuff days ago and want to get in on this week's ap releases but crickets

[Anonymous No.10531152]

>>10531136
Weird she's been quick to respond to me maybe email her to see if she got your original email?

[Anonymous No.10531153]

does anywhere make cute strap extenders? ap's adjustable straps are nigh-useless

[Anonymous No.10531157]

>>10531104
It's not a plush bag but this thing would barely hold my phone and wallet and it was completely ruined within 6 months it was my first lolita bag

[Anonymous No.10531173]

>>10531136
I sent her an email a couple of days ago and haven’t got a response yet, I’m sure she’s busy but she’s usually good with replying...

[Anonymous No.10531174]

>>10531157
yeah I used this twice and it fell apart in six months too

[Anonymous No.10531177]

Thoughts on this? It's from ll's page

[Anonymous No.10531178]

I don't think that's normal she's been working on an order for me for almost a week now but has been very responsive like within 20 minutes I'd email her again to be safe

[Anonymous No.10531182]

>>10531173
I always get pretty quick responses from her; there's a lot of stuff releasing she is probably swamped with requests for rn. Also idk if it makes a difference, but I always use her order form on her site though rather than emailing directly if I don't have an actively open order, just to be safe as far as politeness and so she can keep it organized more easily since I'm sure she has a process or system she uses.

>>10531178
This is probably going to annoy her; just be patient.

[Anonymous No.10531185]

>>10531177
This response was weak af. How do you accidentally like a photo where you can literally see a flag of trump waving in the background?

Again, in her typical style, she is claiming she is a victim. How out of touch do you have to be, when you have a following of 100k+ yet she is asking people to look out for who are trump supporters?

[Anonymous No.10531186]

>>10531177
I think it is pretty common for ppl to just scroll through and like stuff and forget to look closely. Since Lor is popular she probably goes through and likes stuff to keep brownie points. And then someone saw it was a gross post and lost their beans.

[Anonymous No.10531188]

>>10531136
Same,I sent in an request days ago. She updated her insta though, so she‘s either not receiving or actively not replying.

[Anonymous No.10531189]

>>10531177
What’s worse: that she accidentally liked a post from an obvious trump supporter or knowing she mindlessly scrolls and likes shit just for the algorithm?
In any case, it reflects badly on her.

[Anonymous No.10531190]

>>10531185
Nah, she probably just missed it. You ever seen the "Invisible Gorilla" video/experiment? About 50% of all people miss obvious things out of the ordinary in media all the time, especially if she was more focused on the makeup/clothes (which as someone into clown stuff and fashion she probably is) than the background.

Lor is sometimes annoying, often fails in experimenting with coords and makeup, and has tacky taste, but I don't think she's some awful Trump supporter. She seems like she genuinely hates the idea of upsetting people and is overly nice all the time, even if it is on a more performative level at times. It was clearly an accident/oversight, idk why people have any reason to be pissed at her.

[Anonymous No.10531196]

>>10531177
Feels like a nonproblem.

[Anonymous No.10531200]

>>10531177
Why is this an issue at all
She made a mistake and owned up to it
Did you want her to post a video of her crying and shaving her head for liking the wrong insta post

[Anonymous No.10531201]

>>10531177
Who cares

[Anonymous No.10531225]

>>10531190
The woman was decked out in American flags and had a huge banner with trumps face in it waving around her head.

Not really the same.

[Anonymous No.10531227]

>>10531177
Not surprised with her fake personality.

[Anonymous No.10531230]

>>10531225
American flags and Trump flags are different. Even liberal people wear American flags at protests often, it isn't really a sign of being pro Trump so if the banner was one part of a much larger image and they were *literally wearing clown makeup* it could be missed when scrolling quickly.

Either way liking a photo of a shitty person mindlessly isn't the end of the world. At least half of gulls are anti-woke anyway, people just want an excuse to bash Lor and since her last video wasn't as much of a train wreck as she usually is this is the next best thing. I don't like her either but stop pretending like this makes her evil or something.

[Anonymous No.10531234]

>>10531177
She's obviously not a Trump supporter. Are people really that starved for drama?

[Anonymous No.10531240]

>>10531234
Yes.

[Anonymous No.10531242]

>>10531177

I don't like Lor but this drama is dumb as shit.

[Anonymous No.10531244]

>>10531242
It literally boils down to "oops, hit like by mistake, sucks people I disagree with are also into shitty clown makeup"

[Anonymous No.10531262]

>>10531244

People mindlessly like shit all the time. I once followed an account for a while that turned out to be a dumb antivaxxer who bought into the computer chip memes. I u followed them but I'm not going to unlike every photo, they don't even give you a history of that beyond a week.

[Anonymous No.10531264]

>>10531244
She literally wrote that she was following said person. She can't even bare minimum check out the people she follows.

[Anonymous No.10531267]

>>10531230
That’s a huge trump flag.

[Anonymous No.10531268]

>>10531177
I've seen random shit appear in my likes after doomscrolling. This is believable to me anyway. I'm sure Lor has fairly fat fingers so it make sense.

She doesn't seem like a trumpet at all. Or even trump adjacent. She seems SJW adjacent if anything. Thinking Lor is a fascist is obviously just bored people who need something to gossip about. God, just gossip about how fat she is, isn't that enough? She's blown up like a balloon and would look 10x better if she lost 20-30 lbs.

[Anonymous No.10531271]

>>10531267
>>10531264
Seems like she initially followed them for the clown shit and the trump stuff came up later. And even though the flag is large, it isn't the yard sign Trump 2020 style flag you usually see, and is dark and in the background while the person is decked out in bright stuff.

As >>10531268 said we all know Lor isn't on the trump train, why waste time trying to cancel or vilify her for something she clearly doesn't believe and was a mistake?

[Anonymous No.10531276]

>>10531268
I agree. Anon is trying really hard to stir some shit up. I swear people are trying to "cancel" one another over the stupidest shit. You can't even have an opinion anymore or voice one that isn't popular otherwise the entire army goes after you. I'm saying this in general.

[Anonymous No.10531284]

>>10531271
She didn't apologize.
She has a huge reach so needs to do A LOT better if she wants to pretend she's an ally.
Accident or not, liking posts promotes then on your followers feed.

[Anonymous No.10531285]

Cancel culture makes me never want to get on the internet again. I'm so tired of people overreacting and starting stuff because they are bored. We don't care if someone accidentally liked something. Now let's talk about frills.

[Anonymous No.10531286]

>>10531284
She's a lolita youtuber, not james charles kek

[Anonymous No.10531288]

>>10531284
the concept of liking/reblogging/retweeting shit being an endorsement of said shit is part of why social media is such a fucking cancer. a frilly dress commentator is not a political source. i understand the idea of people with platforms having accountability but this is silly.

[Anonymous No.10531291]

>>10531177
I don't like Lor and think she's pretty performative about BLM stuff, but for fuck's sake you think someone who regularly posts anti trump shit liking one (1) photo on instagram makes her a secret white supremacist?

come on y'all. please log off.

[Anonymous No.10531292]

>>10531284
Its the internet, calm down.

[Anonymous No.10531296]

>>10531291
Just checked who's been leading the charge and its all the people who troll the lolita fashion tag on twitter looking to qrt people for drama, so I am not shocked. Haven't seen hellob***y in a while, jesus

[Anonymous No.10531297]

>>10531285
>>10531285
Not to make this the feels thread, but I hate this shit because it stops me from producing content, lolita or otherwise. I've both accidentally liked and/or followed terrible people before and all my accounts are locked. Its gotta sck having 100k people waiting to cap and call you out

$20 one (or all of these) lolitas pushing this get a callout within the next year because its a fcking drama cycle

[Anonymous No.10531298]

>>10531284
God, please log off and get a real hobby. One mildly popular person accidentally liking one thing on instagram is not important. It just isn't. If she liked 20 things like this, that would be a whole other story. I sincerely hope you've never misclicked anything in your life.

[Anonymous No.10531304]

WF pointing out lors posts from 2015 to show how anti-black she is. This is such a waste of energy, christ, it was obviously an accident. She may have even fucking misclicked it's not actually that hard to do. Makes me feel better about being really careful about what I like on social media though, there are too many crazies watching.

[Anonymous No.10531305]

>>10531177
I swear every time I turn my head Lor is grovelling over something else she's done wrong. Maybe she just needs to accept she's not that lovely.

[Anonymous No.10531307]

>>10531296
what's wrong with b*tty besides her questionable coording skills?

[Anonymous No.10531308]

>>10531304
T B H im not surprised this is happening. The zoomers put her on a pedestal and which means the zoomers HAVE to knock her down now that they are tired of her. This happens in every fandom and hobby I've seen lately. People don't get bored of things anymore, they "cancel" them by finding whatever crack in their facade they can find and exploiting it. So, yeah, really not shocked she had to do an ~apology~ for accidentally liking a post kek

now get off my lawn

[Anonymous No.10531310]

>>10531307
Just her coording skills, though she did tend to push drama on twitter when there's an opportunity (like now ig)

[Anonymous No.10531312]

Thoughts on if girly sticker is unpopular enough to go on sale on USA site like on the JP site? I wants.

[Anonymous No.10531316]

>>10531312
Its on sale at both the paris and japanese sites, and still in stock in all cuts on both, so yes, it should go on sale in murica

[Anonymous No.10531324]

>>10531296
I saw that girl who screams about all the other lolitas "copying" her ugly coords qrt her and checked out

[Anonymous No.10531328]

Are you gulls looking forward for Grand Basar?
Did you get your MTO funds ready just in case?

[Anonymous No.10531329]

>>10531328
In the middle of a pandemic when there are no SS's to be found?

[Anonymous No.10531331]

>>10531177
Even if she was a trumpie I doubt she'd be stupid enough to like trumpie stuff on her main account. It'd totally ruin her image and there's nothing to gain.

[Anonymous No.10531333]

>>10531305
lor is insanely thin skinned and half of her controversies would not be bad if she didn't write ten page essays over explaining every mistake.

[Anonymous No.10531336]

>>10531331
Seriously, I'm not sure what people are even saying the end game was here. Like what would be accomplished by one liking one post on instagram that goes against everything she's said for years?

I keep seeing people say "do better" but is there a realistic way to do better at what was likely just an accidental double tap?

[Anonymous No.10531342]

Talking about shopping services, has anyone been using Sunflower Seed Shopping Service? They're Tokyo based, plus they do in-store shopping, but they don't have a lot of followers on fb, so idk how good they are.

[Anonymous No.10531349]

>>10531342
I've tried to a few times for limited releases and haven't gotten anything but refunds. Not sure if it's worth attempting again

[Anonymous No.10531359]

This American triggered at literally everything and rioting over everything is getting out of hand. People think that their freedom to not get triggered trumps freedom of speech lmao. So basically they want everyone to censor themselves according to who they are speaking with or face the wrath of cancellation. It's absolutely insane.

[Anonymous No.10531363]

>>10531359
You're clearly not American, but Freedom of Speech is a Constitutional right that protects people from the Federal government, not randos from getting mad at them on Twitter. Yeah, its stupid, but the 1A has nothing to do with any of what you're saying

[Anonymous No.10531365]

>>10531349
well thats concerning, i'm using them as my SS for the BTSSB LGB lottery. hoping they come through?

[Anonymous No.10531368]

>>10531349
Idk if limited stuff is even worth pursuing. I tried with both Muuh and Tenshi, but got turned down with no free spots.

[Anonymous No.10531369]

>>10531363
I am American. I believe freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence. The current social climate is just way too extreme. People are getting crucified for honest mistakes or opinions that do not fit into the narrative. I'm a POC and have experienced racism my entire life living in America. I don't believe Lor deserves the huge backlash she is getting over liking a photo on Instagram. But alas, everyone wants to go on a crusade everytime they are triggered. My comment was with regard to the reactions overall being so severe these days. Even as a POC I'm afraid of expressing my opinion that isn't aligned with the radical left narrative for fear of being cancelled.

[Anonymous No.10531370]

>>10531365
what is lgb

[Anonymous No.10531372]

>>10531369
Oh, I agree with you when you explain it that way. Your first post very much did not read as FoS =/= freedom from consequences though. It read as the opposite.

I still think the desire to participate in callouts and cancellations is getting to the point of absurdity, but I would argue its not actually about not being triggered, especially since trigger warning tags and locking content and the like are no longer in vogue with these groups, but rather desire for ebully entertainment

[Anonymous No.10531375]

>>10531267
Who the fuck has such a vendetta they found this?

In b4 the person who found this is actually a trump supporter.

[Anonymous No.10531377]

>>10531375
Thinking the same thing. You'd have to see the photo to know lor liked it, and this has big "I cought you on /cgl/ never mind that requires me to be there too" energy

[Anonymous No.10531378]

>>10531369
The more people get canceled the bigger their community grows. That's how alt-right work. Many men felt rejected and unwelcomed by modern culture, so they find a space that celebrates them.

[Anonymous No.10531379]

>>10531182
I used the form on her website, I’ll just give it another day or two, don’t wanna bombard her with emails

[Anonymous No.10531381]

>>10531370
laforet grand bazar

[Anonymous No.10531382]

>>10531372
No worries anon, I get you and agreed with what you said.

>>10531378
I would argue that the radical left is cancelling more people than the alt right is. You see so many people, Lor included, forced to make apologies for every misstep. Everyone calling for cancellation expects every single content creator and person with a large audience to specifically research at a detail level every person or item they follow and every image they like. Like Jesus Christ calm the fuck down. So many people are virtue signaling as well. There are a lot of non POC people pretending to be outraged for POCs and blowing things out of proportion. It would be awesome if I had someone to stand up for me or say anything when someone says some racist or commits a hate crime against me, but more people are disingenuous and would never do those things for me or anyone who is wronged, in a non Internet place.

[Anonymous No.10531389]

>>10531382
I've been in alt right spaces and while they don't frame it as "cancellation," they will harass you and and call you out into oblivion for stepping out of line. I think its just an internet culture thing

[Anonymous No.10531393]

>>10531389
My aunt posted something like “I’m ashamed to be a Republican today”
And she got torn apart by both sides, and many of her alt right in-laws Unfriended/blocked her and then messaged her husband all night. Cancel culture is toxic as hell, no one can have an opinion or make a tiny mistake anymore. It’s ridiculous. I feel bad for lor, whatever her reason intentional or not for liking that post in the first place, she probably spent all night and today stressing over guilt and having to write an apology.

People should take that energy and use it to make real change, not shame random people on the internet

[Anonymous No.10531396]

>>10531393
Yeah there's this narrative where its just a lefty thing, but it's clearly everywhere. The alt-right gets away with it more, too, because part of their thing is claiming they are the reprieve from all that.

[Anonymous No.10531399]

>>10531393
I feel bad for her too. She's issued multiple apologies now and has written basically a dissertation on why she is wrong and has had to appease every single person that's upset and overreacting.

Our country has become so much more divided and extreme. It's truly terrifying.

At least there are mostly reasonable lolitas on this board, and although this is bickering constantly, we can all share our appreciation for well made and kawaii ugu clothes lol.

[Anonymous No.10531410]

How is everyone getting stuff shipped to North America right now due to covid? I wanna get some stuff from mercari and closet child.

[Anonymous No.10531413]

>>10531410
DHL

[Anonymous No.10531414]

>>10531393
>no one can have an opinion or make a tiny mistake anymore
I remember following people when I fell asleep with my tablet in my hands, so it falls down onto my chest and I happened to touch the button with my neckline. Sometimes I find some rando posts among my likes I don't remember liking consciously. Another times I like posts when my hand is shaking and I happen to tap it twice. Now when people talk about consequences I feel like I might need to apologize for my imperfect fine motor skills as if it was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.10531416]

>>10531410
My closest child orders were processed within a few business days and also arrived within a few business days via DHL. Not sure about Mercari as I've never ordered via a shopping service for them. Can you suggest one that supports Mercari?

[Anonymous No.10531420]

>>10531410
> mfw cheapest Yamato shipping costs like 60 bucks to my area
My SS still has some items of mine for months. Taking Yamato pill is expensive as fuck, yet I feel so bad for them using their space to keep my stuff. Honestly when I think of money I spend on lolita besides what I spend on clothes themselves, I feel lesser desire to buy anything again.

[Anonymous No.10531565]

>>10531410
Fedex

[Anonymous No.10531568]

>>10531304
I dislike Lor a lot but can WF be cancelled already? She has done enough to actually warrant it.

[Anonymous No.10531571]

>>10531307
She's a narc and a drama whore.

[Anonymous No.10531585]

It's been about a decade since I wore lolita, but I still love me some cute bags. Couple of questions- Is the quality more or less the same? I've heard dress quality has gone a little down, but I'm more concerned about plush bags here. Also- Is the Baby/AP shipping from the SF stores fucked right now due to covid? I see the banner on Baby's site, and I can wait three weeks (where am I gonna wear it to right?) but anything worse than that or am I good to buy?

[Anonymous No.10531627]

>>10531585
Shipping is slow as hell, you're good with Baby, hit or miss with AP

[Anonymous No.10531632]

>>10531568
seriously. i hate that someone like her is black and stands for us. she's always starting drama about it (like misinterpreting misako saying not to get a tan) i hate her.

[Anonymous No.10531638]

>>10531389
I think it's just American culture.

[Anonymous No.10531639]

>>10531585
You might be waiting longer than three weeks for BABY. I placed an order in November and I’m still waiting and I know at least one other anon here is in the same boat. But things might speed up a bit with the holidays over.

[Anonymous No.10531641]

>>10531638
Possible, though a lot of lolita drama like this is not started by americans

[Anonymous No.10531643]

I love when people make posts pointing out that Taobao is shit and all of the Taobao-chans come out of the woodwork to defend their precious low quality Chinese crap.
>JeJ

[Anonymous No.10531645]

>>10531643
Krad Lanrete...? Because while it’s not the worst quality, it’s overpriced.

[Anonymous No.10531646]

My god

[Anonymous No.10531652]

>>10531643
Not all Taobao brands are shit quality. Have you seen recent years IW, baby, and the fucked up AP animal bags?

[Anonymous No.10531653]

>>10531632
What's equally bad are all the virtue signaling idiots who support her. Everyone is too afraid to speak their mind because these extremists will literally go on a pitchfork riot and doxx and ruin your life.

[Anonymous No.10531654]

So i guess AP is releasing new plus bags

[Anonymous No.10531656]

>>10531646
she's super cute from the side but her face is kinda fucky from the front.

i'm rationalizing this with the fact that people pay way more for bags. lamb-chan looks like she can hold a chapstick and a quarter but she's rare i guess

[Anonymous No.10531657]

>>10531654
Sorry i meant PLUSH bags. Also dropped pic jfc

[Anonymous No.10531658]

>>10531646
I hope that poor girl knows she couldve gotten the $180 thats still sitting on fril

[Anonymous No.10531660]

>>10531654
Can they please stop releasing great shot back to back to back. Like shit man I'm not made of money lol

[Anonymous No.10531661]

>>10531657
yay more tiny stuffed animals to lug around in addition to another bag. the lyrical bunny face pouch would be legendary if it were tote sized

[Anonymous No.10531662]

>>10531652
Yeah JP brands fuck up sometimes too but
>Not all Taobao brands are shit quality.
Please list which ones aren't shit quality. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.10531663]

>>10531662
nta but yolanda has been pretty good. their blouses especially. but all other taobao brands have been disappointments.

[Anonymous No.10531674]

>>10531284
Can you please just leave your crusade behind? You literally stalked her Instagram and most likely follow the same clown makeup artist "trumper." How tf are you finding one post someone liked out of the thousands that are out there. Honestly the probability of someone finding that is so low. You have to be actively looking, getting lucky, or are yourself following clown MUA.

I really don't like Lor because she's over apologetic over the stupidest non issues, but forcing her to entitle every POC to an apology without looking at any facts is insane.

God this stupid country is shit.

[Anonymous No.10531681]

>>10531104
That could be my bag collection!

[Anonymous No.10531684]

>>10531643
I bet she's counting every single "piece" she owns including socks and bloomers.

[Anonymous No.10531689]

>>10531684
Yeah 500 main pieces is like Misako tier isn't it?

[Anonymous No.10531694]

>>10531662
>sometimes
>IW the last year
>consistently shit quality and defective AP pochettes

Everything I've bought from indie brands including sosic and antaina to name a few brands specifically has been as good quality as JP brand. JP brands are literally getting all their shoes made in China and they've been caught purchasing lace and fabric from literal Taobao shops, but please keep trying to make fetch happen.

Top kek weeb tier.

[Anonymous No.10531696]

>>10531189
The only person screaming about the algorithm is Batty so way to go on outing yourself.

[Anonymous No.10531698]

>>10531657
Better pic of the face bag

[Anonymous No.10531700]

>>10531696
She and that supposedly black lolita asking everyone to apologize for basically not being black are leading this Lor crusade imo.

>stop persecuting and treating us terribly because of our skin color
>literally persecuted and treats others that aren't the same skin color terrible

[Anonymous No.10531706]

>>10531698
Where is this image from?

[Anonymous No.10531707]

>scrolling through Facebook
>see pic of murrica barbarian holding sign that says Q sent me
>Thought it was a funny star trek reference so liked the pic without knowing the context until the next day
I relate to Lor right now

[Anonymous No.10531757]

>>10531643
JeJ is almost as common as JetJ, but JetJ is preferred on the anglophone forums

[Anonymous No.10531806]

>>10531707
Oh anon, I'm so sorry

If it makes you feel better that dude is raging that people think hes antifa agent

[Anonymous No.10531811]

>>10531707
>another TNG lolita

[Anonymous No.10531839]

>>10531694
While I won't deny there is probably some good taobao out there and I have been quite happy with my an*tai*na, the bulk of my new brand (baby, meta) has been far above the bulk of my taobao. I'm fine with that because its cheaper, but you are nuts or don't actually buy brand if you think taobao on net is the same as brand on net

[Anonymous No.10531840]

>>10531839
And before you call me a weeb, I classify some non-JP as "brand" based on prices and quality (though I am not for this particular conversation).

[Anonymous No.10531841]

>>10531663
i've been interested in yolanda. when you say "pretty good," approximately what does that mean? better or worse than say IW and by how much

[Anonymous No.10531845]

>>10531658
the one on fril is missing the hat

[Anonymous No.10531846]

>>10531643
honestly being someone who owns both JP brand and Taobao I don't get the point of vehemently defending it on facebook, just dress yourself well and move on. if you're not dressing yourself with ugly, cheap shit and replicas you're good. why the hell would i waste time arguing with random anons or facebook users

[Anonymous No.10531852]

>>10531846
its because people who do this are often people who (think) they are locked out of brand because of price and sizing. This was a big thing with bodylinelitas back in the day, and really its just about jealousy

>mfw when nearly all of these dumbasses could find brand in their size and price range if they were just fucking patient

[Anonymous No.10531856]

>>10531186
This. Plus it helps engagement to like/follow things, so I often randomly scroll through and like shit.

[Anonymous No.10531858]

>>10531852
I'm plus size and I fucking agree, I have a wardrobe full of brand that genuinely fits me. I don't waste time or money trying to squeeze into anything.

[Anonymous No.10531861]

>>10531856
That's what she said she does. Is that a little pathetic? Sure. But it's hardly a hate crime

[Anonymous No.10531862]

>>10531858
I'm glad there are a few youtubers like callista who are plus size, on a budget, and wear brand pretty regularly. Since these kids only listen to youtube maybe they will get it eventually.

[Anonymous No.10531863]

>>10531298
Agreed. It's also so gross how people are dogpiling on her over the smallest fucking mistake. People want to be taken seriously over social justice issues but then cause a huge stink over a genuine mistake. Honestly the people shitting on Lor (avina, purest maiden, etc) are just coming across as self-righteous bitches.

[Anonymous No.10531868]

>>10531863
both already are notorious for starting drama over stupid shit (others "copying" their coords, not getting enough likes despite their outfits being expirimental and ugly) and i am deeply unimpressed with lolitas who are giving them the time of day

[Anonymous No.10531869]

>>10531662
What are you living under a fucking ignorant rock?

Yolanda is above AP imho. I got fondant carnival in the Japanese cotton and was blown away by the quality. It was $100 and had embossing and all kinds of excellent details. Alice Girl takes a bajillion years since they only do mto, but they have cotton lining on their dresses and tons of detail. Arcadian deer, Arca et orvis, Lolitas and colitas, and bramble rose are all really high quality.

People who say this shit seem to forget that every part of APs construction process happens in these same Chinese factories and textile mills. There are plenty of taobao brands every bit as high quality as Japanese brands.

[Anonymous No.10531873]

>>10531869
>People who say this shit seem to forget that every part of APs construction process happens in these same Chinese factories and textile mills.
People who say this tend to forget when people say "brand" they don't actually mean "Angelic Pretty"

[Anonymous No.10531874]

>>10531869
idk about the others but alice girl is bad quality and lolitas and colitas is still worse quality than shitty modern ap

[Anonymous No.10531875]

>>10531841
i don't have modern IW so i can't say. the construction is good, the prints are cute, crisp, and original, the fabric feels nice, there are typically many details, buttons sewn on well, embroidery pieces are wonderful.

i have 2 jsk, 2 blouses, a bow and a beret from them. all of them are excellent and i find myself reaching for them a ton. the beret actually has structure, the bow has pearl chain detail, idk i really can't sing their praises enough.

[Anonymous No.10531876]

>>10531869
I've seen half of these brands in person and they look like fucking spirit halloween dresses. what are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.10531877]

>>10531875
Thanks! I'll check then out. For the price it seems worthwhile to at least check them out. I like their designs and am glad to hear their construction is at least pretty good

[Anonymous No.10531878]

>>10531869
I’ll second Alice Girl. They took 8 months to fulfill my order, but I’d put it on tier with my aquarium carnival and other lower quality AP releases.

[Anonymous No.10531883]

>>10531878
>>10531869
>Alice Girl
You telling me this clipart and joanns lace bullshit looks like AP? Its really nice for $12, but come on

[Anonymous No.10531885]

>>10531878
Sorry for random instagram pictures but how is left on par with the right?

[Anonymous No.10531886]

>>10531876
I own all of them, and a mix of AP, Baby, Meta and one piece from MAM. My Baby dresses are the highest quality of the lot. AP used to be much higher quality, and I’m not just talking about materials I’m also talking about construction. My older AP dresses have triple reinforced seams at the waist and bodice. Newer ones are just holding on by a serge and a prayer. Just like taobao brands.

I was so fucking disappointed by the aquarium carnival release that I started exploring taobao brands, and a lot of them are really good, and charge what a dress of that grade should cost, given that the fabric has to be custom printed in relatively small batches. Being a Japanese brand does not inherently make something greater quality than a taobao brand.

[Anonymous No.10531887]

>>10531876
This. I literally just looked up that Yolanda JSK and even on review photos in the DevilInspired listing you can see it looks like really good bodyline tier but that's about it.

[Anonymous No.10531891]

>>10531886
NGL, it sounds like you and some anons are mad at modern AP and letting that cloud your judgement about everything else. I don't buy AP and own one ten year old dress from them. If you say they suck I'm sure they do

But holy fuck Alice Girl is not "brand quality." Just say we should lump AP with RPA in the category of Japanese brands that aren't Brand TM and move on

[Anonymous No.10531892]

>>10531885
NTA but these are kinda apples and oranges. I’ve seen that strawberry dress a bajillion times and it’s actually pretty fucking cute and the cut is flattering.

[Anonymous No.10531893]

>>10531887
Yolanda seems good for the price but anyone who talks them up as beingg a steal because they are brand tier is insane

[Anonymous No.10531895]

>>10531892
The print is trash though. And I say this knowing AP these days puts out disappointing prints at times too. I'd still rather have AP than most taobao brands for a majority of things.

[Anonymous No.10531896]

>>10531892
this strawberry dress? >>10531883

it looks like it was illustrated by an instagramer with 200 followers and has craft store buttons ffs

[Anonymous No.10531898]

>>10531891
>RPA

I guess if their idea of brand quality is RPA then technically a lot of taobao is brand quality kek

[Anonymous No.10531900]

>>10531891
The whole point is that brand isn’t brand quality. There’s massive inconsistency and a ton of really shoddy construction across Japanese brands. The Alice Girl piece I own falls within the range of lower tier Japanese brands. I say that having worn and examined it, and compared to the other pieces I own. The Yolanda piece I own, is head and shoulders above any of the recent AP and Baby that I’ve bought except for this past Christmas release.

[Anonymous No.10531901]

>>10531898
Hell or even Alice and the pirates tbph. A lot of their shit looks like cheap trash irl.

[Anonymous No.10531903]

>>10531901
Oh yeah AATP is like Baby's sad ugly shameful experiment and everything but their ouji pieces and furrybait Captain Chris items tend to look cheap as fuck (and even those sometimes miss the mark)

[Anonymous No.10531904]

>>10531903
Arca et orvis is way better for ouji. Less selection, but can confirm the quality there, though it costs way more to ship than I thought it would because all the buttons and chains are like a heavyweight metal. AnPs new stuff for ouji feels like wearing a sand paper plastic bag combo. Some of their salopettes are nice tho.

[Anonymous No.10531906]

>>10531900
Maybe we are buying different releases but holy hell, no. Yolanda is not better than Baby. And even the shooped stock images of Alice Girl look terrible, let alone how bad they look in real life. Did you see a some bad construction on AP and just shove your brain into a blender?

[Anonymous No.10531908]

>>10531892
>these are apples and oranges because these two dresses look similar but one is far worse quality and i like this random other dress

[Anonymous No.10531909]

>>10531873
>when people are talking about lolita brands they aren’t referring to the most popular and successful one of all time

anyway some taobao brands are pretty close to Japanese brand quality. even those that are a little less than Japanese brand quality still are good quality for the price. most taobao brands are cheaper than bodyline these days.

[Anonymous No.10531912]

>>10531909
Fine, sure. I guess my complaint is people are using AP being BAD quality as an excuse to say taobao brands of similar or worse quality are GOOD somehow, and that's stupid. Good for the price? Sure. Good? No.

[Anonymous No.10531913]

>>10531912
Angelic pretty is a brand. Therefore they count in the quality discussion. You don’t get to talk down on taobao brands, saying they aren’t on par compared to japanese brands then refuse to acknowledge the biggest Japanese lolita brand because it doesn’t suit your narrative.

[Anonymous No.10531916]

>>10531913
I agree. You are right. It still doesn't make saying "AP is bad quality, but this other brand that is similar or slightly worae quality is good quality" make any fucking sense. Either its good or its not, pick a struggle

[Anonymous No.10531920]

>>10531913
people talk down on taobao because they arent that good. You can say AP makes some bad chiffon dresses without lying and saying some 100$ taobao dress is better than it. Quality is a lot more than just the fabric, and most people straight up dont know what it means to talk about quality

No, Yolanda is not better than AP. Its just an ok cheap option to buy from. They also make very different dresses anyways.

[Anonymous No.10531921]

My kingdom for people to stop acting like lolita is just taobao and Angelic Pretty

[Anonymous No.10531922]

>>10531916
The point is that the other brand is making a little less than AP quality at half the price, the difference in price makes up for taobaos lesser construction

[Anonymous No.10531924]

>>10531920
I recently got that rainbow dollhouse JSK from CC cat. it’s heavy. it’s lined with a built in petti, which many modern AP dresses aren’t anymore. it feels sturdy. in design, it blends right in with my wardrobe full of AP. the quality is on par with my chiffon AP dresses, at a fraction of the cost.

[Anonymous No.10531925]

>>10531922
Okay, we are having two different discussions then.

Pretend I'm Wlon Musk and don't know what a banana even costs. Line up your favorite taobao with the japanese brands you've seen and rank them in terms of quality.

[Anonymous No.10531926]

>>10531922
Nayrt but when you bring in quality "for the price", the discussion then becomes about VALUE, not QUALITY exclusively. The taobao and AP pieces are both potentially bad quality or less than what we expect from certain brands or older brand pieces, but the taobao dress happens to be a better value if you don't care about specific prints, more likely resale ability, and whatever else goes into wanting to pay more for burando.

[Anonymous No.10531929]

>>10531926
God, thank you for understanding.

[Anonymous No.10531930]

i think this argument is making the mistaken assumption that most people are buying select taobao *because* it's cheaper

but that's not really the case for people who aren't new/own a lot of brand anyway. this argument is tired, nobody's going to agree; especially if they haven't bought what they consider "quality" taobao before

[Anonymous No.10531933]

>>10531930
exactly, dress well and move on. i'm not even sure why this argument is happening

[Anonymous No.10531934]

>>10531177
Splitting contractions are a major sign of lying

[Anonymous No.10531935]

>>10531930
No, that's literally what I'm asking. If I have money, have brand, and don't care about price, what Taobao should I be looking at instead of Japanese brands? And are they on par with the best Japanese brands because otherwise I don't care? Second hand exists if I want to save money.

[Anonymous No.10531936]

>>10531934
She's dyslexic.

[Anonymous No.10531937]

>>10531873
Previous anon literally referenced AP as their "high quality" brand lol. Scroll up.

>>10531916
I agree. These brand whores who only buy AP due to the same Tyler reasons are coping so hard.

[Anonymous No.10531938]

>>10531935
the point of this argument isn't to "save money" though. people have listed a few brands, just make your own judgement.

[Anonymous No.10531939]

>>10531285
Imagine thinking it’s hard to create content that isn’t racist/sexist/transphobic

[Anonymous No.10531940]

>>10531291
To be fair, there’s lolitas, idols, cosplayers, etc. who are trump supporters but hide it because they know they’ll lose their fanbase

[Anonymous No.10531941]

>>10531938
Right, but then when pushed all they replied with is that they are around AP quality, AP is bad, and its worth it if you care about price.

[Anonymous No.10531943]

>>10531939
>Imagine thinking it’s hard to create content that isn’t racist/sexist/transphobic
It's not and I agree, but accidentally liking one fucking instagram post is not the same is actively producing racist content. This is drama whoring

[Anonymous No.10531945]

>>10531939
Nayrt and fair point, as a POC that's usually my argument, that it isn't that difficult to not discuss the type of shit that offends people; but the Lor situation is different. She did something it is easy to do: accidentally like a photo or follow someone who turns out to post stuff that's offensive/she disagreed with way later. And she apologized and clearly has a track record of not being some horrible racist and if anything trying too hard to make sure she's considerate of PoC and woke crowds, yet people are demonizing her.

[Anonymous No.10531946]

>>10531393
Boo hoo. No one should pity her if she’s on the side that discriminates non white gay people

[Anonymous No.10531949]

>>10531946
Bro, no one is saying we should care. Just that dogpiling is not exclusive to the left. Which, if anything, is a pro-leftist statement since that's typically a conservative talking point. Jesus, learn to read.

[Anonymous No.10531951]

>>10531940
And get harassed and possibly lose their livelihoods/income due to their opinion differing from the radical left's. These people going after Lor as an example.

>>10531946
You need to provide proof of something that's more than just an image of her liking some clown MUAs photo.

Also out of curiosity, is purest maiden even black or is she just pretending to not come off as a virtue signaler?

[Anonymous No.10531955]

>>10531951
her dad is black but he's also a judge who makes mad $$$ and put her through law school so

i find most of her anger misplaced because she isn't as marginalized as she wants to be

[Anonymous No.10531956]

>>10531951
She's black but from a very wealthy and privileged background

Can't wait for the other wokies to eat the rich and go after her too

[Anonymous No.10531957]

>>10531955
holy shit she's rich and her coords look like *that*

i was giving her leeway because lolita is expensive lmao

[Anonymous No.10531958]

>>10531943
>>10531945
I like how both anons automatically think I’m talking about Lor. I was only talking about cancel culture since the anon said they want to create content but can’t because CC. So many LL WK’s.
Most embarrassing behavior.

[Anonymous No.10531959]

>>10531958
it's probably because the anon you were replying to is talking about lor, and the entire discussion before their post is on lor

[Anonymous No.10531961]

>>10531951
They shouldn’t make money off of people if they openly discriminate
> You need to provide proof of something that's more than just an image
I don’t tho. I was talking about the anon’s aunt not LL’s crusty ass.

[Anonymous No.10531962]

>>10531958
>I like how you both assumed I was talking about the person the conversation was about and weren't fucking mind readers
Cool. You're right 90% of the time. Since you expect omnipotence from others, I expect you know I personally am complaining about the other 10%

[Anonymous No.10531963]

>>10531959
Yes because someone crying about wanting to make content without being cancelled = LL

[Anonymous No.10531965]

>>10531963
Once again, they were saying this in response to a conversation ABOUT LOR. How fucking stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.10531966]

>>10531963
>Cancel culture makes me never want to get on the internet again. I'm so tired of people overreacting and starting stuff because they are bored. We don't care if someone accidentally liked something. Now let's talk about frills.

>Imagine thinking it’s hard to create content that isn’t racist/sexist/transphobic

The post says nothing about making content?

[Anonymous No.10531967]

>>10531285
>Cancel culture makes me never want to get on the internet again
>dont make racist content
>iTs AbOuT LoR
>uh
>>10531962

[Anonymous No.10531968]

>>10531963
>We don't care if someone accidentally liked something.
This is literally what lor did. The post is about what Lor did, specifically, and being afraid of the same response happening to them for making a dumb mistake.

[Anonymous No.10531969]

>>10531967
Take the L. You misread a post on 4chan; its not the end of the world

[Anonymous No.10531970]

>>10531956
>>10531955
TOP KEK.

Once again we have ultra privileged people trying to pretend how marginalized they are. There is higher disparity in treatment among rich and poor imo. Poor people regardless of race get treated like shit and have less opportunities. How tf has America enabled constant and acceptable reverse discrimination for one group of people. What a stupid narrative to go with.

Also, maybe her wealthy father doesn't give her money for lolita or something, who knows. I feel like the racial equality movement these days only includes black people. Latinx and Asians are still marginalized. And honestly I would not want to be white in this current social climate in America. Shit is crazy. People are lumping all white people into the "oppressor group."

[Anonymous No.10531972]

>>10531961
Oh come off of it. You're talking out of your ass now and refuse to provide proof of her *racism* besides one photo of her liking someone picture at a Trump rally, which honestly even grounds for calling her a racist. She wasn't at the rally and just because anyone has a different opinion than you doesn't make them racist. Jfc you radical leftists are so entitled and militant. Everyone wants to complain about people in the Deep South being ignorant yet look at where we are now.

[Anonymous No.10531975]

>>10531972
I appreciate your energy, but I genuinely think this person just can't read

[Anonymous No.10531976]

>>10531700
Who is it ?

[Anonymous No.10531979]

>>10531961
>calls people racist
>can't provide proof at all
>changing goalpost
Just stop

[Anonymous No.10531985]

>>10531177
>be lolita youtuber
>virtue signal constantly, go out of my way to be non-confrontive with all my statements and pander to sjws
>scroll through feed
>accidently tip too hard while scrolling
>you're an anti-black nazi trumptard now and get cancelled for it
The absolute fucking state.

[Anonymous No.10531989]

>>10531264
So you at least weekly check the profile of every single person you follow in search for hints of them having a political leaning you disagree with? If your answer is yes, you really need a break from social media.

[Anonymous No.10531991]

>>10531989
The sad thing is some people replied with "I obsessively background check every person I follow just in case they turn out to be bad" and did not realize how pathetic that sounds

[Anonymous No.10531992]

>>10531985
Literally this. She's ultra sjw to the point of revulsion and it comes off as somewhat genuine but extremely try hard. If anything she has made multiple videos supporting and calling out black businesses to her audience, but they want to cancel her for this *huge racist bigoted action* of liking a photo of of someone else at a trump rally. Why are people canceling someone who clearly supports them and brings them business. She has been shilling POC businesses for years.

How fucking confused are these fanatical SJWs?

[Anonymous No.10531995]

>>10531992
they've back down to "performative ally who needs to evaluate herself"

like, yeah, but really? over a fucking misclick?

[Anonymous No.10531996]

>>10531992
just saw the same posters pitching a fit that no one is talking about "this" on insta like they did blm in june. this being the halfassed coup the other day

what the fuck are we supposed to say? insurrection is bad. don't do it?

[Anonymous No.10532003]

>>10531985
This is the problem with constant pandering to the SJW types. The moment you cast in with them, you'd better be prepared to be super vigilant about everything you do, because the moment you step out of line they'll be down our throat.

I'm pretty fucking liberal. I am a minority, and I know from personal experience how racist the US and the lolita community can be. Anybody who thinks that's not legit is stupid af at this point. But you couldn't pay me to pander to these groups in any social media context because if you're on the record saying SJW things and you slip up somewhere along the line, you're gonna get dragged.

IRL if people ask my opinion, I'll tell them. On my insta? hell no.

[Anonymous No.10532006]

>>10532003
Purity spirals are a bitch. I'm a lefty activist irl but I stay locked and silent online because I'm not going to put myself in a position where I have to be perfect 24/7. It's not even about social justice, it's about proving you are better by knocking anyone you can find down.

[Anonymous No.10532010]

>>10531995

In fairness Lor has never shown any real commitment to any of the shit she yacks about.

She claims to care about new lolitas, but shills them devil inspired and gives them god awful coord tips.

She claims to give a fuck about BLM issues, but kept shilling GLW way after the incident.

She wants to grow her base with her whole SJW and protector of newbs shit, but when it comes down to it, she'll throw those values right out the window to make a quick buck.

[Anonymous No.10532011]

>>10532010
wow formatting did NOT go as I intended lmao

[Anonymous No.10532013]

>>10531177
She deserves the hate. She's never given a fuck about anyone in the community unless she's getting clout or $$

[Anonymous No.10532015]

>>10532006
THIS. 100%

>>10532003
The people who are reasonable and not actively out there with pitchforks inciting rage over literally non issues are lumped into the *racist* category. I don't have social media either because I'm afraid some malicious sociopath will go after my family, job, friends, etc for something they can spin into *racism* or an opinion that is objectively not racist but are triggered by. These people try to pretend they are doing the work of Martin Luther King Jr. but they are just another flavor of the oppressors they are pretending to defend others against.

Most embarrassing behavior indeed.

[Anonymous No.10532018]

>>10532003
This is part of why I argue for keeping politics as much out of lolita as we can. Unless it's a direct problem in the community, where someone is saying that a comm member was racist or sexist or whatever towards them specifically, it's really not at all relevant.

>>10532006
relatable anon. God forbid somebody volunteer with a local organization and actually DO something instead of posting nonstop on insta amirite?

>>10532010
This. I'm pretty sure LL is the OG poorfag.

[Anonymous No.10532019]

>>10531970
>I feel like the racial equality movement these days only includes black people. Latinx and Asians are still marginalized
I've seen some shit. I'm just so tired.

[Anonymous No.10532022]

>>10531985
Literally this, kek

>>10531995
When people like WF criticize LL for her "performative allyship", they are literally being "performative allies" themselves. Go volunteer at a homeless shelter for a few hours instead of devoting so much energy to arguing about LL liking a picture on Instagram.

[Anonymous No.10532024]

>>10532019

While I acknowledge that we can be pretty racist, it goes both ways. I literally got racist xenophobic treatment the other day by a black woman so I just cannot with all the mental gymnastics the mocement does to not take responsibility for their own ignorance.

[Anonymous No.10532034]

>>10532006
>I'm not going to put myself in a position where I have to be perfect 24/7

This is what's so frustrating about the whole SJW thing. Literally, everyone, at some point in their lives has said or commented something they regret, or spoken about an issue that they have more perspective on now than they did then. I'm not saying that people shouldn't have consequences when they're being shitty, but god people should try having some fucking empathy.

Do you know how many times I've clicked the stupid "terms" button when trying to post to this site? Misclicks happen.

[Anonymous No.10532036]

>>10532019
This is a whole ass thing. I'm a minority and I'm neither Asian nor Jewish, but I can still acknowledge these are the groups people are least likely to listen to when they say something is offensive.

[Anonymous No.10532040]

>>10532034
She was following a trump supporter. This wasn't an accident.

[Anonymous No.10532041]

>>10532019
Jesus Christ. It was a mistake to give BLM so much power and for the Democrats to push this narrative. Literally everyone who isn't black now is automatically an enemy. And literally only black lives matter. Other races that face bigotry and hate crimes aren't valid.

I've heard of talks of paying reparations as well. They are really trying to make everyone, non black, immigrants, people who had nothing to do with slavery pay for compensation that isn't fucking quantifiable. If they really wanted reparations they need to go after Muslims in Africa that literally sold slaves to colonists.

The absolute state, like the other Anon said.

[Anonymous No.10532042]

>>10532040
Many people including those who called her out said this was a new development.

[Anonymous No.10532043]

>>10532010
>She claims to give a fuck about BLM issues, but kept shilling GLW way after the incident.
These two things are 6 years apart.

[Anonymous No.10532044]

>>10532034
>Literally, everyone, at some point in their lives has said or commented something they regret, or spoken about an issue that they have more perspective on now than they did then.
This is why I'm not surprised the 18-24 year old set are the worst about this. They are absolutey CONVINCED they are right at all times and will never slip up, but time always proves you wrong. At some point, you will just mispeak, misclick, or straight up have an uninformed opinion that you WOULD have changed but now its capped and you're fucked

[Anonymous No.10532045]

>>10532040
Between fb posts from my comm members and all these other sm posts, it seems like she followed them before they posted anything like that or without knowing. Some people on fb even were confused/assumed this person was being defiant and not actually pro Trump but there to piss them off initially until the person posted some not-PC stuff from their insta stories for further context. It seems really obvious Lor would never intentionally follow a Trumper, whether for appearances or genuinely.

[Anonymous No.10532046]

>>10532041
Fun fact: Native Americans are far and away the most likely to be killed by police.

But nah, reparations make sense. Not necessarily for slavery itself, but rather for exclusion from quantifiable government initiatives. For example, Black soliders were excluded from post-war bonuses to buy homes. They should absolutely be reimbursed for that. There's tons of other programs like it at both the state and federal level, that can easily calculate the financial loss of racial discrimination by the US gov.

[Anonymous No.10532047]

>>10532046
You. I like you.

[Anonymous No.10532049]

>>10532047
Thanks. I knew my econ degree would pay off lmao

[Anonymous No.10532050]

Why are people so determined to defend Lor? She's a canker sore on the ass of the community and is the reason we've had to put up with so many genderspecial itas in the last few years.

Let them tear her apart. She contributes nothing.

[Anonymous No.10532051]

>>10532050
i only care because the people ragging on her are even bigger cows than she is

[Anonymous No.10532052]

>>10532044

Not to mention views will shift again and whatever is ok now may not be ok in the future. I cannot wait with them posting publicly 24/7 for this to hit them in the face.

[Anonymous No.10532053]

>>10532049
>was also an econ major
fuck, i guess that's what it takes to have a brain

[Anonymous No.10532054]

>>10532050
I just want people to tear Lor apart for her actual flaws and shit taste and coords, not for made up racism accusations because of an honest mistake.

[Anonymous No.10532056]

>>10532050
Probably because this is pretty legit stupid. we all hate Lor, but we're also all now double checking our following tab and trying to avoid being the next callout so...

[Anonymous No.10532057]

>>10532050
because if this flies do you have any idea how annoying the community will get

[Anonymous No.10532059]

>>10532057

That's one word for a community that has doxxed people in the past. I agree though.

[Anonymous No.10532060]

>>10532059
yeah but I dont want people to doxx me because I accidentally hit the follow button for the 400th time while checking someone's twitter. low bar but we're here

[Anonymous No.10532061]

>>10532040
For her literal creepy obsession with clowns and the lady's clown makeup.

You are trying so hard to ruin LL with literally no evidence I feel like you're projecting your actual racism at this point. If evidence comes out that isn't out of context about LL's supposed racist behavior that would be something, but you are literally grasping at straws.

>>10532036
This and it's frustrating as hell. Jewish people faced the worst genocide of human history and so much anti-Semitic hate to this day, but no one is willing to acknowledge it. It's almost as if you have to violently protest to make your concerns heard or to be taken seriously.

What's truly fucked up is that we can only voice our opinions anonymously on this board because if we did anywhere public we face the fear of being cancelled. Afaik the only person that was able to come out on top(a lot of people actually agreed with him with regard to his stance on policy c-16)insane SJWs is Jordan Peterson, but I'm sure him and his family still get death threats and are harassed constantly. Also C-16 passed afaik.

Also I feel like these race wars based upon entitlement and constant misplaced anger are a truly American issue. The queen needs to take back the colonies lmao.

[Anonymous No.10532062]

>>10532060

I firmly agree. I follow 1000 accounts, it's going to be extremely difficult to check who became problematic since I last followed them. This is ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.10532063]

>>10532060
Maybe don't follow racists then? It's not hard.

[Anonymous No.10532064]

>>10532062
we are 2 seconds away from those stupid @'ing every mutual who follows OP posts 14 years olds do to ebully people and that's where i gotta draw the line

[Anonymous No.10532065]

>>10532063
>accidentally hit follow button for te 400th time
I have bad motor skills. Cancel me.

[Anonymous No.10532066]

>>10532040
And you probably do to, it's a political leaning, not an appearance.

[Anonymous No.10532067]

>>10532063
God I cannot wait for you to get your callout

[Anonymous No.10532068]

Can we all agree to can this ita at least?

[Anonymous No.10532069]

>>10532068
Why are you posting this here? Take your vendetta to the ita thread.

[Anonymous No.10532070]

>>10532068
There's a thread for that, sweetie

[Anonymous No.10532071]

>>10532061

>The queen needs to take back the colonies lmao.

Speaking of genocide, do read up on how they wrecked India and Kenya, well into the 70's. Not for the faint of heart, but yeah fuck the crown and the genocidal horse they rode in on.

[Anonymous No.10532073]

>>10532068
desu I've always thought her stuff was cute.

Cancel me.

[Anonymous No.10532074]

>>10532071
England shitting on America for being racist is actually the funniest thing

[Anonymous No.10532076]

>>10532046
So should all people who had ancestors or are even slightly related to those individuals receive these reparations? How do you determine the criteria for that? Who should pay those reparations? Tax payers who had nothing to do with it, immigrants from other countries, only white people? I think Japanese citizens that lost businesses and livelihood during WW2 internment camps should also be paid reparations then. I also think if we are to pay reparations for one race, all races are owed those same reparations if they faced the same discrimination.

Once again though, the amount of reparations and the criteria that needs to be met is not quantifiable by humans and we don't have an algorithm that would be able to determine anyone's eligibility.

Imo we need to heavily educate everyone about history to prevent further discrimination and repeats of the same mistakes. But alas, human beings are shit and the fact that no one did anything about the holocaust until millions were slaughtered as an example, speaks volumes to the apathetic and self centered ways of human beings.

[Anonymous No.10532077]

>>10532050
Seethe harder WF/other unpopular lolita. Lor looks like shit and I think she's mostly wearing lolita for her youtube now, but this whole drama is retarded as hell.

[Anonymous No.10532079]

>>10532076
>I think Japanese citizens that lost businesses and livelihood during WW2 internment camps should also be paid reparations then

Bitch we need to heavily educate you lmao. The equivalent of over 3 billion was paid in reparations to Japanese internment survivors and their descendants. God. What a fucking idiot.

[Anonymous No.10532080]

>>10532074
Throwback to the millions of Indians that they starved in the 40s, and the thousands of ethnic minorities of Africa they tortured and killed in the 70s. But yeah god save the queen amirite?

[Anonymous No.10532081]

>>10532080
like damn america is racist, but we learned it from you, dad

[Anonymous No.10532082]

>>10532074
Or hell the welsh and Irish kids they literally beat their native languages out of and/or removed from their homes to be placed with English families. They genocided their own fucking little island.

[Anonymous No.10532084]

>>10532071
That was a joke in poor taste, sorry. >>10532074
I'm American and I made that joke lol.

Yes those and apartheid are fucked. Also the Rwandan genocide and the current Uyghur genocide are equally atrocious.

Honestly European imperialism was horrible and has left painful scars to this day.

[Anonymous No.10532085]

Gulls stay on topic

[Anonymous No.10532086]

>>10532079
Ok this is my bad for not being aware of that, but my point still stands and you don't need to be angry. I will do better to educate myself, thank you.

[Anonymous No.10532087]

>>10532085
This is on topic. Our lord and savior Lor-sama has clicked on a heart by a racists face and now racism is synonymous with lolita

[Anonymous No.10532088]

Lolita is inspired by a colonial state responsible for genocide all over the globe senpai. Cancel us all.

[Anonymous No.10532090]

>>10532088
No worries, humanity is going to cancel itself soon. We all fucked

[Anonymous No.10532091]

>>10532086
The point is, they’ve “figured out” how to do it with many other races, they’re just dragging ass here because every time anyone brings up black reparations Fox News shits a brick and tells everyone the black are trying to get a leg up. god forbid.

[Anonymous No.10532092]

>>10532076
My family immigrated to the usa to build railroads. Can you imagine all the opportunities they were denied back then for being chinese
Now hand over the gibs

[Anonymous No.10532093]

>>10532091
Seroously. They haven't payed approriate natives reparations for violating treaties and government keeps a damn list of who is in what tribe. Its just an excuse

[Anonymous No.10532096]

>>10531124
Not sure what tf happened to this thread, but mine 's the mint bear from ap US. It would be nice if the stars spun

[Anonymous No.10532097]

>>10532092

Fuckin this.

And a bigger paragraph in the us history textbook. People fucking forget they paid Chinese literally less than horses and essentially enslaved them for the duration. Then afterwards mobbed and slaughtered them afterwards because they thought they were stealing jobs.

So yeah, reparations now.

[Anonymous No.10532101]

>>10532092
SAME. And we are facing horrible racism and hate crimes, maybe even killings due to corona and Trump blaming all Chinese people for the virus. And of course, ignorant Americans don't want to acknowledge that any other race besides white can be natural born citizens or are at the same level of "American" as they are. Once again, where the fuck is the outrage for Asians? Why are we always marginalized? Why does no one care that we face racism? What about latinx and the Jewish as well?

[Anonymous No.10532102]

>>10532091
So you agree then that native Americans and the Chinese among other groups of people deserve reparations as well?

[Anonymous No.10532103]

>>10532101

At this rate I'm half expecting us to go into internment camps anytime now t b h. The level of hate towards us is getting high and while it's always infiltrated casual conversation I can tell it's getting worse.

[Anonymous No.10532104]

>>10532097
The Chinese should absolutely receive reparations for lost property in SF for sure. It’s hard to calculate general reparations for racism, but the arbor liquidation of Chinese property rights should be compensated for. It’s funny that Cali is so liberal now because wow it was a fucked up place. They paid for Native American bodies up into the early 1900s and forcibly sterilized a bajillion people on their whole eugenics phase.

[Anonymous No.10532105]

>>10532102
Not them, but yes? Honestly asking to payouts from a government thag has done the shit its done, esp. to natives is pretty reasonable

[Anonymous No.10532107]

>>10532102
Of course. Any time the us federal or state government violates the constitution to deny a service, program, housing etc. on the basis of race they should absolutely have to pay up. Native Americans are particularly interesting give that the constitution refers to them as foreign nations, this legal but is why they’ve had more success than other groups, though the Supreme Court did rule that congress has the right to change treaty terms after the fact, which is why there’s still so much trouble getting things fixed.

[Anonymous No.10532108]

>>10532104
This. If you are going to pay reparations to one group you need to to all that faved the same atrocities. That is only fair.

People don't know that the Nazi eugenics program took many pages from the CA program.

[Anonymous No.10532109]

>>10532108
Its wild that y'all are assuming asking for black reparations means denying everyone else reparations, too.

[Anonymous No.10532114]

>>10532104
This. Reparations need to be paid for all races who experience the same atrocities to be fair. But who do we decide pays for it? Are Chinese American tax payers expected to pay for their own ancestors' oppression? Ultimately it's American tax dollars that are going to fund these.

People don't know Nazi eugenics took many pages from the CA eugenics program.

[Anonymous No.10532115]

>>10532108
The addressing of these issues will always be staggered tho. You need a lawyer, a good case with specific damages, public support for your cause and an educated public. Unlikely in the current claimant, so groups have to subdivide and fight for their piece of the pie so to speak. The courts are so backed up on this sort of thing, and the costs of presenting a case are enormous.

[Anonymous No.10532116]

>>10531694
> they've been caught purchasing lace and fabric from literal Taobao shops
Post proof. I've only seen replica lace. And you're mad the fabric industry sells fabrics to multiple suppliers?

[Anonymous No.10532118]

>>10532109

The thing is that instead of supporting us we get accusations of not being supportive enough in their endeavors. This is from someone who fully supports blm but at the height of performative sjw it was literally like >>10532019 every day with barely any acknowledgement of hate murders to Asians at the time. It has sort of burnt me out from the movement and made me realize I need to advocate for myself.

[Anonymous No.10532119]

>>10532109
We never did? We asked a question about parity. You are conflating our words. Even if we did no one would acknowledge us. No one is this thread and rarely in person do people even try to contradict the fact that non Black races such as Asians and Latinx face racism and are marginalized. No one gives a shit about us.

[Anonymous No.10532120]

>>10532116
I almost guaruntee this happens, since taobao is just a shopping platform. Lace has to be purchased from somewhere, and I'm sure some suppliers wholesale or sell on taobao. Idk what their or your point is

[Anonymous No.10532122]

>>10532116
One sec. I’ve got this. The lace supplier that AP uses sells on taobao to anybody.

[Anonymous No.10532123]

>>10532114
Sorry I double posted. Mobile site didn't acknowledge prompt with the comment posted initially.

[Anonymous No.10532124]

>>10532122
see >>10532120. its not a gotcha, its just a supplier dumbass

[Anonymous No.10532127]

>>10532122
They literally have pics showing ap uses their generic lace, and they’re clearly the shop ap uses for custom lace

[Anonymous No.10532128]

>>10532124
Point being, they do in fact use taobao lace as all their shit is made in China by Uyghur slaves rip

[Anonymous No.10532129]

>>10532122
next you'll find out you can buy AP's interfacing, thread, buttons, and latch hooks *gasp*

[Anonymous No.10532131]

>>10532128
>taobao lace
you keep saying this like you understand what this means. not one single clothing company on this planet does not purchase at least some of their supplies from a manufacturer. and yeah, that manufacturer might have other customers. how stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.10532133]

>>10532128

Fun fact you're probably shit posting from a uygher slave device or another product of exploited labor

[Anonymous No.10532134]

>>10532131
Their quality is completely replicable. How stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.10532136]

>>10532129
Can you just admit you're a brand whore. At least Tyler owns it. Stop strawmaning.

>>10532128
China is responsible for approximately 20% of the world's cotton production and like you said a majority of it is being produced by uyghur slave labor. They are also facing forced sterilization and there are mass killings. This is literally Nazi shit, but the international community fails to step in again. I don't even think most people know this is going on, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.10532137]

>>10532134
Yes, you can, in fact, go out and purchase all the supplies AP uses, contract their artist and designers and manifactorers and assemble a similar dress. Whew, you got me

[Anonymous No.10532139]

>>10532136
The other 80% is mostly sourced from uzebekostan using slave labor too whats your fucking point

[Anonymous No.10532140]

>>10532136
I don't even like AP dude, you just are going off about how you can buy lace. Like no shit, where do you think lace comes from? God handing it down from the heavens?

[Anonymous No.10532141]

Completely off topic, but I'm really glad to see at least some people give a shit about the world issues and most of the anons posting in this thread are reasonable. The shit that happened to LL goes on constantly in the US. People have been cancelled for less and it's not right. Liking a picture of someone who was at a Trump rally(we don't even know what they were there for) is not the same as being a Nazi like everyone wants to believe. Cancel actual perpetrators of racism and do something to better your community instead of stirring up unwarranted racism callouts online with misplaced self righteousness.

[Anonymous No.10532142]

>>10532050
But tear her apart for what? For liking a post?

[Anonymous No.10532143]

>>10532141
Very educational thread desu

[Anonymous No.10532144]

Stop sperging about Chinese uyghurs you're scaring the whores

[Anonymous No.10532146]

>>10532139
The point is the same AP dresses you claim are superior in construction and quality are made using the same materials and Chinese labor as Taobao brands. You only think AP dresses are better quality because of their brand name.

[Anonymous No.10532148]

>>10532068
This is cute

[Anonymous No.10532150]

>>10532146
You do realize that lace costs money to buy and the lace that AP is purchasinf might be out of budget for cheaper brands, plus AP has proprietary lace anyway. You sound like a kid who just found out santa isn't real

[Anonymous No.10532152]

>>10532146
Statistically its most likely that AP's cotton comes from Turkey, Uzbekistan, or the US so idk why you thought this was important to share with the class

[Anonymous No.10532153]

>>10532150
The straw man and ad hominem are clearly indicators of your coping. Calm down.

[Anonymous No.10532155]

>>10532150
Just to add onto your post, also need to account for quality control.
When you buy on taobao, you have no say over the quality you get if you're only buying 4 meters.

[Anonymous No.10532156]

How do you guys think, where would it end? Will US have another civil war? What would happen to the white race?

[Anonymous No.10532158]

>>10532155
I’ve used APs supplier numerous times and they’re actually really good, even when I only buy scraps

[Anonymous No.10532159]

>>10532158
Could you post a link please? I'd love to stock up on good lace and materials in general

[Anonymous No.10532162]

>>10532158
So where's the proof it's APs supplier again?

[Anonymous No.10532165]

>>10531868
Bro pure maiden is insufferable. Today's rant on her twitter. Part 1/2.

[Anonymous No.10532166]

>>10532165
Remembered to censor this time. Fuck me. 2/2.

[Anonymous No.10532170]

Just because AP dresses are made from Chinese manufacturers doesn't mean Chinese reps are going to be the same exact thing you get from ap because guess what....rep makers want to make fucking money. They cut more corner than AP would, in order to make more money.

Replica figurines are made in the same factories as the jp sold ones but they skimp on painting, production, they look worse. So they can sell for cheaper in higher volume to noobs. This isn't groundbreaking stuff you idiots are delusional if you think they're not going to cut costs for reps

[Anonymous No.10532171]

>>10532165
>>10532166
Can you please take it to the online comm thread?

[Anonymous No.10532172]

>>10532165
>>10532166
now I feel bad for her

[Anonymous No.10532175]

>>10532172
If she's so upset about not getting attention on her coords, she should wear less shit ones, it's her own fault and no one owes her anything for being a poc black woman uwu

[Anonymous No.10532178]

>>10532175
>>10532165
Why is she using racism as the reason every bad thing has happened to her?

It's pretty obvious she is the one in here going after Lor and now the cosplayer dresses as a sexy Nazi or whatever. She doesn't even bother hiding it.

Don't you have real problems to bitch about? How entitled are you?

[Anonymous No.10532181]

>>10532166
>Like I get it, I'm ugly and my coords are bad and you don't care what I have to say about the fashion.
I'm getting some real BPD vibes from this guilt-trip.

[Anonymous No.10532182]

>>10532175
The thing is she gets plenty of attention and "yass queen"s on her posts, they always get a shit load of comments for dressing like garbage. But for someone as insecure as her (which is probably why all of her identity revolves around being black despite barely looking black) no amount of likes and comments will ever be enough.

[Anonymous No.10532185]

>>10532181
Don't you get it? Thinking she dresses like shit is racism. GIVE HER ASSPATS. RIGHT NOW.

[Anonymous No.10532187]

>>10532182
Im looking at her ig. Her average is between 200-500 likes per post. What in fresh hell is wrong with her???

[Anonymous No.10532189]

>>10531806
Yeah, I saw he was a voice actor or something and tons of people are just doxxing him because of his easily recognizable tattoos.

>>10531811
Bless you, fellow treklita. One day I will make a super subtle borg coord because almost everything I own is black and silver, and I love green.

[Anonymous No.10532191]

>>10532185
I think her describing herself as a "mammy" is the most racist thing going on lol wtf is that? Literally no one called her that. She sounds like an entitled little sociopath.

[Anonymous No.10532194]

>>10532162
I’m not dropping my links, but they’re the biggest lace supplier out of China, and they do custom laces for all kinds of purposes as long as your minimum order is like 10k meters or something. They’re extremely well known in the handmade community, ask around there if you want to know.

[Anonymous No.10532195]

>>10532194
nayrt but why not drop the links?

[Anonymous No.10532197]

>>10532178
She’s a pos, but she’s far from the only person shitting on Lor. Lor is such a fucking hypocrite and the liked insta aside, people are fucking tired of it.

[Anonymous No.10532201]

>>10532197

Yes but the topic right now is said liked post. I dislike Lor and I think she's fake in general, but this is actually ridiculous and the behavior on display here is worrying for any of us participating in the online community.

[Anonymous No.10532203]

>>10532165
but...isn’t that what she wanted..didn’t she want people to be more educated and aware with racism and discrimination....what does she actually want because it’s definitely not educating people or calling the bad apples out if she’s so upset about her infograph being talked about (more than her mediocre cords) and shared once again??

[Anonymous No.10532213]

>>10532203
Tbh to me it just shows what she is really doing this for. I normally hate screaming that people are attention whores but...

[Anonymous No.10532221]

>>10532165
https://theswaddle.com/what-is-the-victim-complex-and-why-do-people-experience-it/

[Anonymous No.10532229]

>>10532197
>people are fucking tired of it
Speak for yourself, she's as much of a hypocrite as literally any other social media obsessed woke person, including all the people mentioned itt.

[Anonymous No.10532254]

>>10532172
Don't. Half the shit she posts never happened and she has to victimize herself.

[Anonymous No.10532279]

>>10532254
In her Instagram story she said everyone was harassing her and screencapped a conversation where someone was being reasonable and not rude in any capacity lmao. And then she put a comment on one of the caps saying if anytime "came for her" she wasn't going to be nice.

[Anonymous No.10532289]

>>10532092
Everyone someone rees about getting reparations they just sound like a desperate lazy poorfag. And 10/10 times they are.

[Anonymous No.10532297]

>>10532166
>>Like I get it, I'm ugly and my coords are bad and you don't care what I have to say about the fashion.
Broken clock is right twice a day.

[Anonymous No.10532339]

>>10532194
Let me guess, you're going to say laces.taobao.

[Anonymous No.10532395]

>>10531903
>>10531901
AATP construction is fantastic even if you don't like the designs

>>10531922
Every taobao dress I got had terrible thin fabric that sustained damage easily from normal wear or draped poorly and was visibly thin and shiny

>>10531930
Taobao is expensive for the shit materials and construction. Bodyline is cheaper and while the construction is worse, the materials are nicer than taobao

[Anonymous No.10532422]

New thread: >>10532420

[Anonymous No.10532611]

>>10532279
Yea she got caught buying the Meta Nazi uniform dress and hat. The hypocrisy lmao