Lolita General - Bat Wing Edition

[Anonymous No.10489041]

Last thread: >>10485421

[Anonymous No.10489071]

It's almost cute

[Anonymous No.10489080]

>>10489041
I have a lady sloth jsk with bat wings and they’re kinda just there

[Anonymous No.10489091]

Having had a couple of items with wings, it's cute in concept but they'll always end up looking like sad rags in a couple of hours unless you don't have to sit/lean back the entire time you're wearing them.

[Anonymous No.10489311]

Is there any taobao dress that made you feel the same "love it!" feeling as brand? If so,reply with it.
I was mighty tempted by Ange Du L'Enfer OP by Unicorn Tears but found about it too late and missed preorders since I never keep up with taobao releases

[Anonymous No.10489322]

>>10489311
This is a really lovely OP. The only taobao dress I could think of it nameless poem. It's overdone and pretty much every gothic lolita has it/owned it at one point, but I personally never got around to buying it yet. All the pictures I see of the details on the dress as so gorgeous, I should probably get around to it soon.

[Anonymous No.10489366]

>>10489311
I've never seen one I loved as much as brand. Mostly because the quality level is so hit and miss. I rarely buy taobao stuff unless I'm picking it up secondhand for cheap, because so often it's just not worth it. Even my new "bad" AP stuff is nicer than any taobao piece I've owned.

But there's some I like in spite of the quality. FunCcnio has some of my favorite prints. Ragnarok is a stunning series, as is the One Eyed Man one. And Winter Rose is maybe my favorite print of all time, even without the fandom link. Sadly their quality is garbage.

I like Your Highness's designs as well. But I haven't bought any yet because it looks poor quality even in their stock photos so I'm sure irl it's like a fucking Halloween costume. And on the sweeter side of things I love some of Crucis's and Bacio Bouquet's designs. They both have a very cute, quirky style that reminds me a lot of old school without being a straight ripoff of old pieces.

[Anonymous No.10489373]

>>10489311
I always end up being disappointed with taobao dresses I fall in love with. I made two preorders, one with lovely pin tucks and the other a beautiful floral classic print, and when they got here, the fabric was just garbage.

I did order Ange Du L'Enfer, and I'm hoping the quality is worth it.

[Anonymous No.10489379]

>>10489311
Nope. Feeling like I might never. No Taobao brand seems to want to make solid color cottons with white lace in the same vein as old school AP/Baby. That's all I want. Just simple, wearable stuff, not OTT nonsense :/

[Anonymous No.10489380]

>>10489366
>Even my new "bad" AP stuff is nicer than any taobao piece I've owned.
I get not liking most Taobao, but how is modern AP any better? I feel like if you looked hard enough, you could get a nice cotton piece from Taobao that beats any of AP's polyester montrosities.

[Anonymous No.10489381]

>>10489373
mfw i ordered Ange De l'Enfer and another one and now i hope it's not gonna be shite. The former seems like it'll be perfectly fine though so I wouldn't worry!

[Anonymous No.10489393]

>>10489380
>I feel like if you looked hard enough
People always say this but can never provide an example.

[Anonymous No.10489394]

>>10489380
You probably no nothing about garment construction

[Anonymous No.10489395]

>>10489394
*know

[Anonymous No.10489396]

>>10489380
Poly =/= bad quality.

My poly AP dresses are beautifully finished. Fully lined, neat seams, the ribbons and bows are perfect, the lace is nicely ruffled, the hems and pintucks are precise, the buttons are cute, and the prints are detailed and vibrant and packed with details. And while I prefer the look and feel of cotton idgaf if a dress is poly because that just means I don't have to worry about it bleeding, fading, or being a wrinkly mess every time I pull it out of the closet.

The taobao pieces I've owned are total crap in comparison. Some of them aren't even walmart-tier.

[Anonymous No.10489398]

>>10489394
kek pray tell what is so special about ap's factory produced garbage bags

[Anonymous No.10489413]

>>10489311
I really liked this one from Rabbit Bo Bo

[Anonymous No.10489417]

>>10489413
I'm sorry about your terminal shitty taste

[Anonymous No.10489418]

>>10489311
Mozarabic chant from Krad Lanrete. I know some people argue about the screen print quality but after 7 years it’s held up super well with the print color only fading a smidge at the more high stress points on the skirt band that you don’t even notice worn. Otherwise the construction and pattern matching are wonderful and I love the theme.

[Anonymous No.10489420]

>>10489417
I know it's terminal and by god you're burying me with my shitty dresses even if digging up dirt soils your burando

[Anonymous No.10489422]

>>10489420
I respect this

[Anonymous No.10489423]

>>10489413
i think it looks very quirky in a cute Meta kinda way anon. Not my cup of tea though but i am goff

[Anonymous No.10489447]

>>10489398
Just say you're a poorfag and know nothing about garment construction, we can all tell since you think that cotton always equals good quality.

[Anonymous No.10489451]

>>10489447
>not answering the question
Ok, triggered APfag

[Anonymous No.10489456]

>>10489451
Not an APfag but it is funny to watch taobaolitas try to convince themselves that taobao dresses are on par with even the lower tier brand pieces as if anyone else would be convinced. You've probably never had a whiff of brand in your life kek

[Anonymous No.10489457]

Lolita stopped being good when we started being nice to hamplanets. That's where it all declined.

[Anonymous No.10489464]

>>10489456
I own exclusively brand. Doesn't take a Taobaolita to be able to tell you that modern AP is shit. Keep seething

[Anonymous No.10489465]

>>10489464
Whatever you say larper

[Anonymous No.10489467]

>>10489465
Seethe more, APfag

[Anonymous No.10489470]

>>10489467
It's so obvious you're a newfag AND a taobaolita. Keep telling yourself that your $30 dresses are on par with AP, maybe someday you'll truly believe it.

[Anonymous No.10489473]

>>10489470
Nope, but keep assuming. Sorry not everyone wants to kiss your pwecious AP's ass

[Anonymous No.10489478]

>>10489473
> t-taobao can be as good as ap! poly bad cotton good, right guys???

You're just as embarassing as your shitty taobao wardrobe. Christ.

[Anonymous No.10489485]

>>10489478
Not as embarrassing as you, seething over all the lies you made up in your head :-)

[Anonymous No.10489500]

>>10489311
Surface Spell Dusk Library.

[Anonymous No.10489504]

my wardrobe is 1/3 taobao 1/3 AP 1/3 btssb/aatp. burando dresses are more HQ, but my taobao blouses seem about on par, if with less of the small details and usually with slightly less HQ lace. ill stan my infanta coat til i die but the buttons were sewed on pretty crappily.

[Anonymous No.10489529]

>>10489393
I can't personally because I don't own enough Taobao, but I've heard enough experienced lolitas say they own Taobao pieces that are on par with brand quality, so that's why I said that. I know for a fact you can go back in the archives and find names of brands and pieces people have found exceptional in the past.

>>10489396
Which AP pieces and which Taobao pieces do you own? All of the poly AP I've ever owned has been a nothing burger in terms of details and they all came with things like loose threads too, so I'm genuinely curious. I also want to know what Taobao you bought that's so garbage.

[Anonymous No.10489574]

>>10489500
So a knockoff of Innocent World?

[Anonymous No.10489577]

>>10489500
really? SS looks great in photos and like a costume project gone wrong irl. i think you'll be disappointed

[Anonymous No.10489578]

>>10489529
ntayrt however i own all cotton AP besides fancy hospital and ice cream parlor, both are equivalent in construction to the cotton. i also own some surface spell and hmhm and while they're really nice, you can tell from the construction they're not brand. AP's construction in all the dresses i own is totally flawless, zero weird seams or puckering.
the taobao is better than AATP's construction, though. i have some pieces from 2014 and they're unlined, thin cotton, and had loose threads inside.

[Anonymous No.10489579]

>>10489457
Explain

[Anonymous No.10489605]

>>10489529
second ayrt

For AP, a fair amount of cotton pieces, mostly non-print. And of the newer/poly dresses I've got Royal Crown Berry, Guardian Unicorn, Holiday Collection, Rosette Collection, British Keys, Cirque du L'Etoile, Toy Circus, Magical Horoscope, Astro Regimen, Melty Sky, Dreamy Horoscope, Dreamy Planetarium, etc. etc. etc.

Some of the older pieces have more little details to them, like more glitter or pintucks, but for the most part there's not a huge difference and the quality of construction is the same as ever. They're all sturdy without any flaws that I've ever noticed. AP has never been as amazing as Meta, but they've always been consistently good.

For taobao I've owned pieces from Chess Story, Surface Spell, Infanta, FunCcnio, Diamond Honey, Strawberry Witch, Little Dipper, Krad Lanrete, Elpress, ZJStory, Long Ears Sharp Ears, and Classical Puppets. Maybe others I'm forgetting or never knew the name of.

Classical Puppets was pretty good quality, and Krad Lanrete and Infanta were decent, about on par with Baby. The rest were AatP tier at best, and at worst they were Party City tier.

[Anonymous No.10489608]

>>10489579
The minute we started pandering to fatties created a downward spiral in which we pandered to everything, genderspecials, trannies and the like. The exclusivity is what made it fun and interesting, gatekeeping isn't a bad thing.

[Anonymous No.10489610]

>>10489608
Now even our basic rules go out the window. People can barely try and they'll get asspats because we're too afraid to ~gatkeep~

[Anonymous No.10489619]

>>10489608
So you mean the community is going down because of it? Not the actual brands? Because thinking of AP for example, they’ve catered to plus size people but barely.

[Anonymous No.10489626]

>>10489041
>>10489413
costumes

[Anonymous No.10489627]

>>10489626
Ok larper

[Anonymous No.10489628]

>>10489627
is that supposed to be a comeback? ew

[Anonymous No.10489629]

>>10489628
Your face is ew.

[Anonymous No.10489642]

>>10489457
Lmaooo this

[Anonymous No.10489643]

Physical Drop - Daily Shirring JSK [Cat Bouquet Print] (デイリーシャーリングJSK [ネコブーケ柄])
Price: 23,650 yen (incl. tax)

Colors:
>Pink
>Navy
>Gray

Bust: 140 cm (max.)
Waist: 140 cm (max.)
Length: 100 cm (Regular)/ 120 cm (Medium)

Material: 100% cotton
Lining: Unlined

>https://tawaraya-kato.ocnk.net/product-list/41
Notes: Can be washed in washing machine. PD is also selling a skirt that uses the same fabric.

[Anonymous No.10489646]

Na+H - Velveteen Tuck Pleated OP (Box Pleated) (別珍タックプリーツワンピース(ボックスプリーツ))
Price: 35,000 yen (incl.tax)

Colors:
>Black

Bust: 89.5 cm
Waist: 66.5 cm
Neck circumference: 36 cm
Sleeve length: 36 cm
Bodice length: 43.5 cm
Skirt length: 49 cm

Material: 100% cotton

>https://www.naplush-web.com/product-page/%E5%88%A5%E7%8F%8D%E3%82%BF%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%84%E3%83%AF%E3%83%B3%E3%83%94%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%9C%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%B9%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC%E3%83%84
Note: This is a reservation. The item is to be shipped around mid-November. The waist ties are detachable.

[Anonymous No.10489648]

>>10489646
Correction: 35,000 yen is not including tax.

[Anonymous No.10489652]

>>10489574
>>10489577
Well it's been in my wardrobe for 5 years now and I'm definitely not disappointed, bearing in mind that it was less than half the price of Royal Library which was going for crazy amounts around that time. I suppose you could call it an IW knockoff, but the fabric choice is very different from Royal Library. The tapestry fabric is fairly heavy, almost like an upholstery fabric, and the velvet is reasonably nice as well with decent construction. The only minor issues were that the front buttons and waist tie buttons were sewn on very loosely.

[Anonymous No.10489680]

>>10489457
honestly society changed and now VERY fat is more accepted. I was watching silence of the lambs the other day and the women he kills are referred to as big fat girls. In today's climate they're like, average. They're a US size 14.

Nowadays I don't even know if that's plus size, it's like mid size. So I think society shifted and now we have a different idea of what plus size is and it's mindboggling. obesity kills, I hope people remember that.

[Anonymous No.10489681]

What do you think about indie accessory brands ripping off brand prints? I have seen some accessory brand put out some resin accessory that was almost directly ripped from an AP print and I thought it was a bit suspicious. Art theft is still art theft, where do you stand?

[Anonymous No.10489683]

>>10489681
How direct are we talking? AP doesn’t own cute bunnies. Post photos.

[Anonymous No.10489684]

>>10489646
Holy crap that’s pretty

[Anonymous No.10489699]

>>10489683
Like an almost direct rip of the carousel cats from dream cat go round. The same colors and everything. Then again this indie brand uses art that isn't theirs, even if it is super old art like la dame a la licorne. I wonder if they pay the license fees for that artwork, or if it's fair use for how old it is. Anyway, slapping a painting on a low quality shoe is lazy.

[Anonymous No.10489701]

>>10489699
Why are you refusing to post photos?

[Anonymous No.10489702]

>>10489699
If you’re bitching about them using Renaissance art in their pieces, but it’s okay for JetJ to do that, then it smells like vendetta to me. Do you have an issue with the shop owner? Post pics, I feel like you’re reaching for an issue that’s not there.

[Anonymous No.10489703]

>>10489702
No not really. I assume JetJ has the rights to it, and if it's art that is free to license, I have no problem with the indie brand (though the design is a bit lazy, and the owner outsources the shoe design to china. It comes across as lazy but I have no problem with it technically. JetJ at least designs the dresses).
I have problems with the rip off the AP cats because I think that is silly to complain about replicas then buy art theft jewellery.

>>10489701
Patisserie Pink. Some of their stuff is nice but you can tell they've taken some 'heavy inspiration' from certain prints. https://www.patisserie.pink/product-page/cat-carousel-brooch

[Anonymous No.10489707]

>>10489703
So anyone making strawberry accessories is taking heavy inspiration from prints? Brands don’t own concepts. AP does not own carousels or cats. And if patisserie pink is referencing another artist in their listing, in sure you can argue Kira Imai did too. Those cats look nothing like the AP print.

[Anonymous No.10489710]

>>10489707
I think they look very similar but that's okay. I think if I keep making my point people are going to think I'm a vendetta but I don't personally know the girl who sells it, I'm not in any UK comms.

I think it's a copy. Some of her other stuff is ok but that particular one was a bit sus if you're against replicas and art theft.

[Anonymous No.10489722]

>>10489707
the cats are very clearly a direct copy, the style and colours are the same. idc that this person made them, they look pretty cute and would be a great accessory for the dress but theres a difference from strawberries which are super generic and everywhere to a very clear copy of someone elses idea.
ap does have a trademark on cats in that style but still stop being a retard.
I think there needs to be more talk on the grey areas of small artists and "replicas" bc i think this is fine honestly, but to do a fabric or dress replica is not.
would you be up in arms if someone started making kumya merch that wasnt baby? probably. but a generic bear no. replica stuff isnt as black and white as people think desu.
its like the whole shoe design and bag designs. u cant trademark designs like that.

[Anonymous No.10489724]

>>10489722
** does not have a trademark. im stupid and cant write.

[Anonymous No.10489750]

>>10489311
This is my one Taobao dress and I love it. I wear it all the time. It's comfy, versatile, long enough for my tall self, and has (deep!) pockets. The fabric also feels fairly rugged so I'm not afraid of it getting ruined or anything. It's not a type of fabric I've ever had a brand dress be made of. It's got a low pile, almost like if velvet and faux suede had a baby? And it has a bit of stretch to it. Dunno what that fabric is called. I wear the dress without the waist tie belt thing as I find it looks awkward with it on.

The rest of my wardrobe is brand. I did own a Surface Spell dress for a long time (The Nightingale and the Rose embroidery JSK) and it was lovely quality. I must have bought it 6 or 7 years ago? It was a major dream dress for me at the time. I saw it and immediately fell in love with it, and lusted after it for months before finally taking the plunge (I was in my late teens and finishing highschool, so didn't have a lot of money). The embroidery was really well done, and the lace was stunning. However, the green eventually ran into the white part in the wash. I'm not sure what caused it, as I had washed it a number of times prior and it was fine. Maybe I switched detergents or something. I stopped wearing it after that.

[Anonymous No.10489751]

>>10489750
Pic related is the Surface Spell dress I loved for years. I eventually gave it away to someone who didn't mind that the white part had turned to mint green. It was making me a little sad that I had ruined what was formerly a dream dress, so I let it go. In any case, my style has changed since then, so I don't mind too much.

[Anonymous No.10489759]

>>10489707
>>10489710
>>10489722
(Nta) I'll say that both the Patisserie Pink designer and Kira Imai took inspiration from Salvatore Cernigliaro the woodcarver, since his work came before the both of theirs and they all basically have the same poses.

I don't think the OP has a vendetta, since I also saw these advertised somewhere the other day and thought they looked too similar to Dream Cat Go Round. At the very least they mentioned the woodcarver's name so we could know where the inspiration came from.

[Anonymous No.10489760]

>>10489759

[Anonymous No.10489763]

>>10489500
i dont own this but ive had this cute collage image saved in my inspo folder for years

[Anonymous No.10489765]

>>10489722
Hopping on to this, as someone who is looking at making small bits for myself related to prints I own and maybe selling, is it that big a deal if it isn't something AP would make themselves? e.g I made a plant pot shaped like lyrical bunny (dumb example)

[Anonymous No.10489767]

>>10489765
Another more real example is seamii's "bearlita" pins, they are directly inspired by AP prints but clearly not something AP

[Anonymous No.10489774]

I recently have found a lolita porn. What do u think about it? Is it harmful to lolita community?

I personally think its nasty

[Anonymous No.10489778]

>>10489703
You don't need rights to a centuries old painting

[Anonymous No.10489783]

>>10489767
I don’t think this is any different than making merchandise based on anime or any other fandom. This is clearly inspired. They’re not trying to pass it off as 100% they’re creation. They’re making it for people who are fans of Angelic Pretty. If the designs were directly traced from AP prints, then that would be a problem.

[Anonymous No.10489789]

>>10489765
If it's for personal use or for a few friends, then I think it should be fine
If you're trying to make a business of making products with another company's characters, then you may or may not get into legal trouble
>>10489767
This example is fine as it's inspired by AP and BABY prints and very obviously can't pass as something made by either company. If that one kumya was perfectly on-model/traced, then I could see it being a problem.

[Anonymous No.10489796]

>>10489701
nta but hardly counts as art theft imo

[Anonymous No.10489805]

>>10489783
>>10489789
Yeah that makes sense, I more want to make things with the theme's prints (so something with white cats on it to go with whimsical vanilla chan for example), honestly, I'm less worried about legal trouble and more whether other lolitas would have a fit like anon above lmao

[Anonymous No.10489806]

is f+f website being really slow for anyone else?

[Anonymous No.10489825]

>>10489805
Oh, if you just want to make something that could match a print (a white cat to go with prints that have white cats on them), then that's totally fine; no one should throw a fit over that.

I've commissioned custom-made accessories to match some of my AP dresses just recently. The jewelry pieces I have are just the same animal/item and color palette that's on the print and not exact copies. (Like, for example, jewelry of a generic, cute yellow bunny to match the yellow Lyrical Bunny on Ice Cream Parlor).

[Anonymous No.10489827]

>>10489646
yooooo Na+H stepping up with that cotton velveteen

[Anonymous No.10489835]

>>10489710
>Think I'm a vendetta
Please read a book or go to ESL class if applicable

[Anonymous No.10489837]

>>10489835
Nayrt but have you ever considered that making a small ESL mistake on a mongolian yak farming forum isn't the end of the world? Bet you're Amerifat.

[Anonymous No.10489848]

>>10489774

welcome to the club

[Anonymous No.10489849]

>>10489413
I think it's cuter as a skirt versus a jsk

[Anonymous No.10489850]

>>10489774
I realize this is probably bait, but it's well documented that the general consensus is the community doesn't endorse that sort of thing. On one hand "it's just clothes", but as an alt fashion it's clear if you're using in sex work it's probably being used for some sort of kink. I would personally prefer to be as far from other people's kinks as I can be myself.

[Anonymous No.10489863]

>>10489774
unacceptable, unless it's femdom and she never undresses

[Anonymous No.10489868]

>>10489863
>femdom
>implying femdom isn't just as bad

[Anonymous No.10489870]

>>10489850
it's defo bait. The consensus on this question is always going to be the same so it doesn't even warrant discussion.

[Anonymous No.10489871]

>>10489863
>unless it's femdom and she never undresses
I understand the consensus but I would be into this tho

[Anonymous No.10489872]

>>10489868
it's a god damn joke you god damn aspie
maybe you'd have friends if you didn't needlessly flash your power level at everyone

[Anonymous No.10489882]

>>10489827
This is a re-release that was very popular. But agreed, it is real nice.

[Anonymous No.10489884]

>>10489796
unrelated to art theft but I hate carousel anything because it just makes it look like the cat/horse is being impaled

[Anonymous No.10489885]

>>10489884
nta but that particular piece actually is the cat being impaled. (i own that resin mold and it's just of the cat)

[Anonymous No.10489887]

>>10489806
Every time I go on there it's slow.
>>10489796
I thought I was the only anon. It doesn't help that the animal is usually in a pose that makes it look like it's in pain!

[Anonymous No.10489889]

>>10489882
I don't actually wear gothic which is why I did not know this, but I'm more tempted than ever

[Anonymous No.10489893]

Are you gulls physically incapable of not responding to bait or

[Anonymous No.10489894]

>>10489893
it's teenagers again

[Anonymous No.10489925]

>>10489457
Right? We accepted them but it was aknowledged they never looked as good as,say,reasonably chubby,average sized or even thin lolitas.
Then we started accepting tumblrgender special children and sjw activists and it all went downhill and now our groups are plagued with those retards that don't even wear lolita half of the time.
I miss EGL community being meaner and not as soft as it is now. Nowadays mods are spineless politically correct bitches for the most.

[Anonymous No.10489931]

>>10489925
Glad you get what I mean. Having standards is a good thing but now we just don't have any in the name of being accepting.

[Anonymous No.10489939]

>>10489646
This is gorgeous, looks like they don't do international shipping though. Anyone know if they have an international store or if I should just hit up an SS for this.

[Anonymous No.10489946]

>>10489939
Atelier Pierrot sells Na+H. They have a non-velvet version on their web shop right now.
https://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?pid=149680145

[Anonymous No.10489949]

>>10489939
SS

[Anonymous No.10489970]

>>10489939
Atelier Pierrot is taking reservations for the velveteen version
https://atelier-pierrot.shop-pro.jp/?pid=154772923

[Anonymous No.10490003]

>>10489643
This is so cute and wearable wtf? I've been trying to save money recently but I'm seriously tempted by the jsk in blue

[Anonymous No.10490031]

>>10490003
Please get help for your shit taste.
Pregnant grandma is not a good look.

[Anonymous No.10490037]

>>10489311
Medusa from Krad Lanrete is the one taobao dress I own and love just as much as brand. Other ones I like but treat them more as filler or dailywear pieces.

[Anonymous No.10490041]

>>10490003
It is seriously cute! Go for it, anon!

[Anonymous No.10490045]

>>10489643
I know classic lolitas enjoy looking terrible but this is bad even for you guys. Yikes

[Anonymous No.10490054]

>>10490031
>>10490045
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.10490055]

>>10490054
Nothing. Just newfag teens being edgy.

[Anonymous No.10490072]

>>10490054
Literally looks like granny clothes + maternity dress

[Anonymous No.10490074]

>>10490045
>>10490072
Nice larp

[Anonymous No.10490076]

>>10490074
You can be a lolita and have decent taste better than this garbage kek i guess you wouldn't get it

[Anonymous No.10490082]

>>10490072
Interesting, that's what people used to say about AP.

[Anonymous No.10490094]

>>10490082
>ap
>granny
no one ever said that

[Anonymous No.10490112]

>>10490094
I was referring to the maternity dress part.
But you also clearly do not remember the Botanical Garden release.

[Anonymous No.10490126]

>>10490045
PD always looks bad on the mannequin but then super cute when coorded well, and it's comfortable

[Anonymous No.10490255]

>>10490072
Good, just what I like.

[Anonymous No.10490261]

>>10490072
Planning on trying to get pregnant soon, I want some lolita maternity wear. Thanks for the suggestion

[Anonymous No.10490269]

>>10490261
I’m speaking from experience when I say that higher-waisted lolita dresses with some shirring really are super comfy maternity wear.

[Anonymous No.10490289]

>>10490112
>you don't remember
bitch I remember when AP stood for 'age play' for a fuckin decade
That shit isn't even lolita, all of this post-2014 long ass shapeless sack shit isn't lolita, it's just being made and sold by lolita brands
I would literally put the botanical garden op in the same category as the crown label mechanic's coveralls

[Anonymous No.10490290]

>>10490261
Ewwww imagine bringing a child into this world because you think your genes are ~speshul~ oh well have fun with your stretched out titties and vag

[Anonymous No.10490291]

>>10490290
Especially during a pandemic yikes

[Anonymous No.10490294]

>>10490290
>>10490291
>t. ugly bitter pickmes

[Anonymous No.10490296]

>>10490294
That's right, anyone who doesn't want to condemn a human child to this nightmare is just jealous of....
I'm not sure what you think you have for others to be jealous of here, actually

[Anonymous No.10490297]

>>10489750
That's actually one of my dream dresses, good to know it's high quality! Now I want it even more.
>tfw it was on lacemarket fairly recently but I had just spent hundreds on vet visits and couldn't reasonably afford it

[Anonymous No.10490300]

>>10490294
What a cope kek

[Anonymous No.10490301]

>>10490296
Because getting a dude to nut in you is so difficult to accomplish and something to be jealous of! I'm so jealous of their stretched out titties and sleepless nights. Definitely worth bringing an innocent life into this shit world.

[Anonymous No.10490303]

>>10490301
>>10490290
Well, at least retards like you aren't reproducing, that's something to be happy about.

[Anonymous No.10490305]

>>10490303
okay buddy, good one, good one

[Anonymous No.10490306]

>>10490303
Congrats on your stretchmarks and screaming imp everyone is totes jealous

[Anonymous No.10490308]

>>10490294
Studies show people without children are way happier than those with. Sooo

[Anonymous No.10490309]

>>10490303
Too bad retards like you are.

[Anonymous No.10490310]

>>10490309
Kek

[Anonymous No.10490311]

>>10490303
>not now Aiden, mommy's arguing online

[Anonymous No.10490313]

>>10490294
The mommy cope of pretending like everyone is jealous of their miserable life would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic to watch

[Anonymous No.10490314]

>>10490313
this.

[Anonymous No.10490317]

>>10490313
And replies like these are at least equally as pathetic and cringe. Can we please get back on topic I'm so tired of people replying to obvious bait every single day

[Anonymous No.10490319]

>>10490296
>just because i think all a woman has to value are her tits and vag doesn't make me a pickme!
ok

>>10490313
i'm not op and i'm literally childfree. you're the one who sounds miserable

>>10490308
probably because most people with children jump into it unprepared, but it's unfair to assume that's the same case for everyone. also a quick google search shows there's results that point in both directions

[Anonymous No.10490321]

>>10490317
> anything I dont like is bait

[Anonymous No.10490322]

>>10490319
>she fucking responding to every post

[Anonymous No.10490324]

>>10490322
pretty sad you can't count past three

[Anonymous No.10490325]

>>10490319
Way to miss the point completely

[Anonymous No.10490326]

>>10490319
Oh okay, so you think a woman is made of things to offer to a man
Well that explains why you think women who don't have kids are sad
You think you would be worthless if you didn't
Sorry about your dad walking out or whatever

[Anonymous No.10490329]

>>10490324
the fucking irony, holy shit

[Anonymous No.10490330]

KERA street snaps from June
>https://twitter.com/KERAonlineSHOP/status/1153240889562550273

[Anonymous No.10490331]

>>10490308
Let me guess that those studies are on white people.

[Anonymous No.10490332]

>>10490326
do you not know how greentext works, or? sorry about your issues or whatever but don't project them onto me, i'm not worthless and i have a great relationship with my parents

[Anonymous No.10490333]

>>10490330

[Anonymous No.10490334]

>>10490333
Oh fuck, it was June 2019. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.10490335]

>>10490332
And yet, you persist.

[Anonymous No.10490340]

>>10490334
It's okay anon, thanks for trying.
Anything lolita-related is better than the current shitflinging going on in this thread.

[Anonymous No.10490343]

>>10490333
What's the guy doing there?

[Anonymous No.10490347]

AtePie - Fleur Cape Coat (フルールケープコート)
Price: 38,400 yen

Colours:
>Black
>Navy
>Wine

>https://twitter.com/atelier_pierrot/status/1318523729559711744

[Anonymous No.10490354]

>>10490340
I've actually been wanting to ask what /cgl/'s favourite release of the year is but it's still too early for that...

[Anonymous No.10490429]

>>10489643
it looks like the same print

[Anonymous No.10490443]

>>10490429
This is much cuter

[Anonymous No.10490452]

>>10490289

Keep that denial energy up, anon, it'll bring you through.

[Anonymous No.10490509]

>>10490429
I was about to get one of the PD skirts but is this available anywhere? It’s perfect!

[Anonymous No.10490530]

>>10490429
Non-spooky black cats? I love this!

[Anonymous No.10490581]

>>10490333
I love that guy omg

[Anonymous No.10490583]

Why does lolita attract so many autists and poorfags? Looking in BSOFL group and I'm just amazed. So many posts from people who obviously buy their clothes at Walmart and then ask how they can get the cheapest coord possible, like you think that it will actually look good? It never looks good like that. Why do people who never wash their hair and can barely coordinate a normal outfit suddenly decide lolita is right for them? It always end up looking embarrassingly bad.

[Anonymous No.10490585]

>>10490583
Also do BS even give advice anymore? It seems like its just newbs giving newbs advice and im honestly kind of concerned for the future of lolita.

[Anonymous No.10490586]

>>10490583
I hate that group so much

[Anonymous No.10490600]

>>10490586
It makes me worry about what this fashion will be like in 5-10 years, a cheap watered down version of it. It already is.

[Anonymous No.10490618]

>>10490585
BS hardly give advice because it's the same regurgitated newbie nonsense that they could find the answer to if they just searched the group or googled it. I'm sure all the BS are sick of having to comment "Devilinspired is a legit site but a reseller" three times a damn day

[Anonymous No.10490623]

>>10490583
Just went to check the group and this is hilarious

[Anonymous No.10490624]

>>10490623
Yeah this is the post that did it for me

[Anonymous No.10490635]

>>10490600
I wouldn't worry about it. "How can I put together a full lolita outfit for under $50?" type questions have been a fixture of the community since the LJ days. Poorfags gonna poorfag.

[Anonymous No.10490637]

>>10490635
Yeah the problem is back in day we would ridicule them, nowadays unless you go to CGL other lolitas will tell you it's fine to cheap out in every aspect because God forbid we act even slightly exclusionary.

[Anonymous No.10490638]

>>10490623
I couldn't handle joining the group myself because I'd sooner strangle these delusional newbies with my waist ties than spoonfeed them advice.

Where can you even get a complete normie outfit for $45? Goodwill?

[Anonymous No.10490641]

>>10490623
not even smart poorfags wtf, at least smart poorfags are always on the hustle instead of bitching about the stuff they can't afford. also what the fuck do some research before getting into an expensive hobby, straight faced asking if you can get a full coord with 40$. absolutely subhuman
>>10490583
it's always the people who have greasy unwashed hair. alwayyys. they always have that trailer trash aesthetic

[Anonymous No.10490642]

Uh how long is wunderwelt going to be down for?

[Anonymous No.10490643]

>>10490583
Funnily enough I used to be shit at fashion. My sister always had to shop for me lol bc I hated it. once I got into lolita I actually gave a fuck and figured out how to match colors, etc etc. as for the poorfags, they think anything from Asia is cheap ig. or that it’s like sex clothes/Amazon cosplay so it MUST be cheap.

[Anonymous No.10490644]

>>10490509
Pretty sure I saw the fabric on a Japanese fabric shop on Rakuten months ago. I don’t remember the shop name though.

[Anonymous No.10490649]

>>10490638
Goodwill is the shit

[Anonymous No.10490660]

>>10490642
Hopefully they’re fixing it because it’s been so slow.

[Anonymous No.10490705]

>>10490637
nayrt

There's really no getting around the fact that fashion (whether it's lolita or not) is an expensive hobby.

It doesn't matter how much of a hugbox FB and reddit become, or how acceptable those communities find Milanoo-tier crap. $40 isn't enough to buy a single fucking used skirt, let alone a dress, shoes, petti, or anything else. The poorfags who are just dipping their toesies into the fashion quickly realize this and most will either give up and leave or else pony up the cash to participate.

[Anonymous No.10490737]

>>10490429
>>10490443
>>10490644
That dress is by the Mexican dress maker 'sweetaddiction'
I don't know if they still make dresses or if they have changed their name. Sometimes their stuff pops on LM

[Anonymous No.10490739]

>>10490705
>$40 isn't enough to buy a single fucking used skirt
your point is correct overall, but skirts go for 4k yen pretty often on japanese sites

[Anonymous No.10490748]

>>10490739

This is true but then you'd have to factor in SS fees and costs, which would put it at least $20 more.

I once got a dress for <4k with shipping but I was in the middle of an obsessive cc stalker phase. The dress itself was 1980 yen so with shipping it came out to ~4k yen

[Anonymous No.10490753]

>>10490739
Sure, and then they have to pay for shipping, and SS fees, and maybe customs and taxes depending on where they live.

[Anonymous No.10490758]

>>10490753
>>10490748
that's fair yeah. Also I forgot cc's ridiculous deals

[Anonymous No.10490871]

>>10490429
I own this dress by sweetdreamer. I bought it because the print reminded me of my dear black cat who passed away last year. Unfortunately the fabric is really stiff like it's meant for upholstery but I still like it.

[Anonymous No.10490922]

>>10490429
It looks so much better in this cut.

[Anonymous No.10490944]

>>10489767
Very cute, but she should be careful about the "angelic pretty" written on tartan bear's dress

[Anonymous No.10490946]

>>10490112
Unironically, I love everything about this except maybe the overlay that's longer than the skirt

[Anonymous No.10490961]

>>10490289

[Anonymous No.10490964]

>>10490871
>>10490509


Just to note that's a different fabric. A lot of Japanese fabric companies make the same print on quilting cotton for clothes and quilts makers, and then on heavier linen/cotton canvas for the bagmakers. That's why only this dress is in the green version, the other two dresses you see posted above don't come in this green.


For those that want to make/commission their own dress:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=531703677336
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=613579644301

And the heavier linen-cotton canvas fabric:

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=592878283160

(It should also be available on Tomato nippori and rakuten, I just find it easier to run it through taobao's image search. It made by Quiltgate, you can see the maker's brand in one of the taobao photos.)

[Anonymous No.10490968]

>>10490429
At first I thought it looked better, but after a while, I still prefer PD's take on it. The cut is too sweet for the print imho.

[Anonymous No.10490979]

Thoughts on making tight OP shortsleeves more comfortable? Has anyone ever done this? Maybe adding some elastic to it just so it’s not cutting off circulation in my upper arms — the dress fits perfectly otherwise (oldschool AP) and I really love it, but the sleeves make it really uncomfortable

[Anonymous No.10490984]

>>10490289
Shut the fuck up just shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.10490988]

>>10490984
You shut the fuck up, we finally got past the shitposting and now you're trying to fuck things up again. Go take your meds.

[Anonymous No.10490990]

>>10490988
??? What? I'm literally just telling a shitposter to shut up? I think you should be the one taking your meds, schizo.

[Anonymous No.10490991]

>>10490990
just get over it.

[Anonymous No.10490992]

>>10490991
Freak

[Anonymous No.10490994]

>>10490992
>when you get triggered so hard you malfunction and start spewing nonsense instead

[Anonymous No.10490995]

>>10490994
Please stop getting so offended, child. You seriously need to get your brain checked out. You sound like you're having a stroke. Go back to CoF like the ita you are.

[Anonymous No.10490997]

>>10490995
It's time to stop posting.

[Anonymous No.10491050]

>>10490990
>someone posting an actual opinion on lolita is shitposting
>responding to what you believe to be a shitpost a day later
Bad news, you're the retard

[Anonymous No.10491057]

>>10489750
this is so pretty! what's the brand?

[Anonymous No.10491081]

>>10490964
Thanks for the links, I really want a skirt out of this fabric.

[Anonymous No.10491084]

>>10491057
lolibrary.org/items/taobao-moumoumou-surgical-instruments-jsk

Says it was released in 2017, but I know for sure I've been seeing this dress float around for almost a decade, so I'm not even sure if MouMouMou is the original brand

[Anonymous No.10491635]

>>10490964
I went hunting for the fabric as well before I scrolled down! Thanks for the taobao links, anon.

I also found it on aliexpress and stocked in a UK(?) euro shop.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32854433711.html
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000028855569.html

https://japonerias.com/en/traditional-fabrics/642-japanese-fabric-black-cats-and-peonies.html

[Anonymous No.10491637]

Aaand here are two more cats in florals prints that I think are lovely:

https://www.spoonflower.com/en/fabric/9069096?country=us&currency=USD&fabric=petal_signature_cotton&fabric_size=test_swatch&measurement_system=imperial

[Anonymous No.10491640]

https://www.spoonflower.com/en/fabric/9059567?country=us&currency=USD&fabric=petal_signature_cotton&fabric_size=yard&measurement_system=imperial

[Anonymous No.10491656]

>>10491635
>>10491637
>>10491640
Thanks anon for sharing the wealth!

[soup No.10491704]

>>10490347
i have a mighty need for that in black, omg

[Anonymous No.10492646]

>>10489456
I'm glad to see that after four years hiatus this argument is still going strong.
Bless.

[Anonymous No.10492647]

>>10492646
I'm not, it shows that APfags have yet to recover from mental retardation.

[Anonymous No.10492648]

>>10492647
What do you get out of responding to bait?

[Anonymous No.10492655]

>>10490979
Simply adding elastic isn't going to make it more comfortable. Sewing elastic into the sleeves will make them tighter. Conversely, removing existing elastic, or replacing existing elastic with longer elastic, will make tight sleeves looser.

[Anonymous No.10492656]

Taobaolitas stay stanning their $35 blurry printed diamond honey dresses

[Anonymous No.10492657]

>>10492648
Pissing off people like you.

[Anonymous No.10492658]

>>10492657
The only one pissed is you, sperging at obvious bait kek its funny how newfags try to deflect from the fact that they're too new to recognize bait when they see it

[Anonymous No.10492660]

>>10492656
Taobao is objectively *much* higher quality than AP at this point. I sold my entire AP wardrobe to buy taobao once my friend let me borrow one of her taobao dresses, I realized I could buy higher quality dresses for a fraction of the price. Only a retarded APfag would pass up a deal like that. That knock off CTP was way cuter, the art even had higher resolution and the fabric was twice as good as the real CTP, yet APfags would turn their nose up at it just because the brand name isn't there. I just don't understand, it makes me sad for them knowing they will never know the joys of brand tier quality for a quarter of the price. Say what you want, but until you've actually tried taobao you have no right to knock it. All you're doing is proudly letting everyone know that you're stupid and only like lolita for the flex. It's 2020 and brandwhores are getting phased out, taobao reigns supreme.

[Anonymous No.10492664]

>>10492660

[soup No.10492668]

>>10491704
how do you know my aesthetic so well wtf. peep these cute boots I just copped

[Anonymous No.10492669]

>>10492660
thx for the fresh pasta

[Anonymous No.10492675]

>>10492658
Funny, I just wrote a few words and now you're sperging out more than me.

[Anonymous No.10492682]

>>10492675
Taobaolitas BTFO

[Anonymous No.10492688]

>>10492682
more like you're the one getting btfo nonnie

[Anonymous No.10492690]

>>10492688
>t. triggered taobaolita

[Anonymous No.10492692]

>>10492688

t. triggered taobaolita

[Anonymous No.10492697]

>>10489041
Let's be real for a momment, lolitas get to look fucking amazing, elegant, cute, classy, etc. But male lolitos have to look like a faggot in baggy shorts, who'se idea was this? Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.10492699]

>>10492697
Ouiji looks retarded

[Anonymous No.10492701]

>>10492699
*ouija

[Anonymous No.10492702]

>>10492699
*weegie

[Anonymous No.10492704]

>>10492692
nope, keep seething tho nonnie

[Anonymous No.10492706]

>>10492704
$30 dresses look so good on u kween yassss

[Anonymous No.10492710]

Why do girls with the juiciest pussies wear lolita?

[Anonymous No.10492717]

>>10492710

[Anonymous No.10492719]

>>10492710
kek

[Anonymous No.10492733]

>>10492668
Tell ur gf I said hi

[soup No.10492740]

>>10492733
I’m pretty sure they’re guy boots. I dunno have to wait like a week before I get them. I don’t like relationships it takes too much effort that I rather spend on other things

[Anonymous No.10492743]

>>10492740
Like being on cgl?

[soup No.10492750]

>>10492743
that’s my favorite pastime yes.

I fucked up. I let my niece follow me to feed the cat the other day and today she fed it when I was sleeping. bitch had the audacity to say “Don’t feed the cat anymore soup. I’ll feed it from now on by myself.” looks like I’m going to have to train the cats to detect autistic kids and to run away when they see one.

[Anonymous No.10492762]

>>10492668
jesus those are some clown shoes. how big are your feet?

[soup No.10492763]

>>10492697
>lolito
kys

[soup No.10492769]

>>10492762
they’re 39 uk. I dunno if they’ll fit but they’re the smallest size I seen for those boots. for sneakers I wear 7.5 us

[Anonymous No.10492772]

>>10492769
whoa soup you look like a very tiny man

[soup No.10492775]

>>10492772
When I was little my great grandma bound my feet to keep them from growing.

[Anonymous No.10492776]

This is the lolita general, faggots. Take the Soup dicksucking to another thread.

[soup No.10492779]

>>10492776
feels thread got ruined by sjw’s and soiboy anon I can’t go back. we colonizing other threads like what christopher columbus did to the jews now.

[Anonymous No.10492780]

>>10492697
men can just wear lolita dumbass

[Anonymous No.10492791]

>>10492779
Not an sjw, just a manhater. Learn the difference, retard.

[Anonymous No.10492794]

>>10492775
show feet or gtfo

[soup No.10492799]

>>10492791
stop making up new orientations. It’s called lesbian. as a lesbian myself we don’t claim people who use the r word. sorry but we’re passing you off to the sjw’s.
>>10492794
gotta sub to my OF (only feets) for that kind of content anon

[soup No.10492805]

>>10492799
>as a lesbian
i mean, i'm a scro....er...i'm a man who loves women, so that makes me a male lesbian, right?

[Anonymous No.10492808]

>>10491084
You are thinking of a different knife and fork dress by Vierge Vampur. This is the original of this one, although it's been released twice. I tried to order it around 2017 or 2018 and my SS fucked it up

[Anonymous No.10492825]

Do the jannies have a boner for soup or something? Why the fuck isn't he banned?

[Anonymous No.10492827]

>>10492825
do you really think soup is only one person? anyone can namefag with the same name.

[Anonymous No.10492829]

>>10492827
No shit but they're all trolling so the question still stands

[Anonymous No.10492834]

>>10492829
do you know how to read? if they are different people, they aren't all getting banned at the same time, retard.

[Anonymous No.10492836]

>>10492834
Literally none of them have gotten banned you fucking idiot. You can tell if the posts are still up or not.

[soup No.10492838]

>>10492825
so I posted my kik in /soc/ because it was national bf day or w.e and I was catching feels. didn’t put much info down just a pic and Kik and this girl added me. I thought it was a catfish so I was like bet. I wanted to see what their end game was and didn’t really feel like talking to a real person. we were talking for a bit and played that number game. one of the question I asked was what her favorite food was since she said she liked to cook. her answer was clam chowder. I thought to myself interesting clam chowder that’s a type of SOUP. It’s too much of a coincidence that jannies have been too nice lately and I get added by this person. Anyways long story short found out she wasn’t a catfish so I ghosted her. It’s been 3 days since I found out so if I get ban we’ll get our answer.

[Anonymous No.10492839]

I sold a few items recently and now I’m kinda tempted to shove my whole wardrobe up for sale. Would love any thoughts on this.
My logic is I will be able to replace anything I miss severely with relative ease. I haven’t worn lolita for years and I don’t see the point of keeping this stuff around. At this point I only really hang onto the items because I want to still consider myself a lolita, and the best way to do that is through owning a bunch of dresses. But I’m about ready to let that go.

[Anonymous No.10492842]

>>10492660
you guys call it bait, but people really do go and unironically say this on facebook...

[soup No.10492843]

>>10492836
I think you’re talking to fake soup. don’t bully him he’s a bit heated right now :] can’t out funpost me because I’m the best wooo

someone make a new feels thread because I haven’t had this much fun since all the other trips were here. desu I’ll probably get banned tonight so you’re gonna have to deal with puos for a bit.

[Anonymous No.10492845]

>>10492839
I did this at one point and my only regret was not saving a couple old pre-2007 AP dresses that are near impossible to find now. Got back into it a few years later and my taste changed enough that I don’t miss anything else. So I guess if you have anything old/rare just make sure you’re ok with never getting them back.

[Anonymous No.10492858]

>>10492845
Same here, though I kept the irreplaceable stuff in storage. My lifestyle changed and I was traveling full time for work for a few years, and lolita just didn't fit into that.

By the time I came back to the fashion not only had my tastes changed a lot but I also had a much clearer vision of what I wanted for my wardrobe.

[Anonymous No.10492872]

>>10492839
I've sold most of my wardrobe a couple of times and don't really have regrets. My tastes change when I come back to the fashion anyway.

[Anonymous No.10492877]

>>10492858
>>10492845
>>10492872

Great. I have probably about 20 main pieces left but I’ll get rid of most of them. I sold a few of my favourites a few weeks back and that’s what made me realise how little I care about any of it. Thoughts on keeping shoes, socks, accessories, blouses, petticoats, etc?
I don’t wear any of this anymore. I’m thinking I should just keep some items to match the main pieces I’m holding on to (or any favourites) and the rest can go. I really don’t want to regret getting rid of anything, socks and shoes are the items I’m most hesitant on for some reason. Petticoats take up a lot of room but I think I should keep them just because they’re such a staple for lolita?

[Anonymous No.10492901]

We've had (well, still do) the Moitie revival, the oldschool boom, now the resurgence of old AP. What do you think the next big lolita bandwagon is going to be?

[Anonymous No.10492912]

>>10492901
I'm hoping that it'll be a VM boom

[Anonymous No.10492915]

>>10492877
I would keep the matching socks, shoes, blouses etc with the favourite dresses, then sell the rest.

[Anonymous No.10492918]

>>10492901
Lolita tends to go round in sweet - classic - gothic cycles so we're probably due another variation on classic.

[Anonymous No.10492922]

>>10492912
>>10492918
God I hope not. There are already so few VM/MM/JetJ dresses on the secondhand market as it is, I don't need any more competition.

[Anonymous No.10492926]

I’m so sick of seeing people with no experience tag themselves as MS on BSOLF and shit like this is why it keeps happening

[Anonymous No.10492935]

>>10492877
Seconding >>10492915. Sell everything you don't care about, if possible minimise accessories/shoes/pettis etc with having the same item match the several mainpieces. Depends on what kind of pettis you own but the ones I have can be shoved into a bigger ziplockbag (mine's from Ikea), and can be kept that way for longer periods. Imo only keep pettis that actually fit your mainpieces.

[Anonymous No.10492971]

>>10492926
The person responding clearly has not read the rules. MS requires a few years in the fashion, not just "some experience".

[Anonymous No.10492974]

>>10492912
I thought we already had a bit of that when there were rumours of VM closing? Mind you I don't really wear classic so I don't know how big that was

[Anonymous No.10492981]

>>10492926
It's too easy to just say you're MS with no experience because you're larping/you want to look like you know shit because of your pride/you're a "lolita at heart."

It's probably impossible for the mods to vet every single user and require some sort of coord post/proof to tag yourself as MS, but it would be nice.

When I first joined BSOLF years ago, I just tagged myself as MS even though I'd never posted a coord and only had a couple of taobao dresses and axes femme blouses hanging in my closet. Because I'd "been in the community for years but just never had a chance to wear a full coord, just casual UwU" Probably shitty of me. You don't actually have experience if you've never worn a full coord head to toe. So I basically just assume about half of the MSs who don't have any lolita featured on their profile are probably LARPers/Lolitas at Heart. LS and MS are the same.

[Anonymous No.10493323]

>>10492877

If you're not sweet, I'd go ahead and get rid of any pleather shoes and bags you aren't wearing anyway. They're probably on their way to peeling anyhow, buy new ones when/if you get back in.

If you're into sweet it's slightly more complicated, as the colours/style can be a total bitch to find once they're not trending. If you're going to keep them, at least mark a date on your calendar to check up on them in storage, otherwise you're in for a nasty surprise when you pull them out of storage and they start falling to bits while you're wearing/using them.

Petticoats are always easy to replace because they're such a staple, but if you want to be able to wear your favorite coord anytime, just keep one around so you can easily pull it out and wear it instead of waiting two weeks for it to ship from wherever.

[Anonymous No.10493326]

>>10492877
I might keep stuff that's really annoying to buy in the future. Petticoat is probably one of those things because every few years the favored petti brands change and you'd have to do research again.

[Anonymous No.10493344]

>>10493326
Adding to this if your want to save space, you might want to look into cage petticoats/crinolines since a lot of them can be condensed or folded up.

[Anonymous No.10493345]

>>10493344

Wouldn't you end up having to keep an extra petticoat to layer on top of it anyway? If your skirts aren't thick enough the bones make the skirt look bumpy.

[Anonymous No.10493365]

what kind of petti (if at all) would you gulls recommend for this type of OP? there's a few on LM right now but idk about the shape.

[Anonymous No.10493366]

>>10493365
Wrong pic?

[Anonymous No.10493367]

wrong pic fml

what type of pett would you gulls recommend for this type of OP? idk if its worth getting.

[Anonymous No.10493368]

>>10493367
PETTICOAT JFC

[Anonymous No.10493419]

>>10493367
A-line.

[Anonymous No.10494457]

idk if anyone is into nun lolita stuff but milky ange did open an etsy

[Anonymous No.10494461]

>>10493368
Lurk moar newfag

[Anonymous No.10494486]

>>10493367
minor poof a-line

[Anonymous No.10494493]

>>10494461
>doesn't realize that was the OP correcting her mistake
eww

[Anonymous No.10494495]

>>10494493
> doesn't understand what newfag means
> is retarded

[Anonymous No.10494498]

>>10494493
lel just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself

[Anonymous No.10494500]

>>10494498
Kek

[Anonymous No.10494585]

>>10489946
>>10489970
Does anyone know if you can still ask Atelier Pierrot for tax free and marked down parcel?

[Anonymous No.10494587]

>>10494585
I've never bought from Atelier Pierrot but iirc all overseas orders from them are without Japan's tax. Being a business, I doubt they will mark down your package because that would be illegal.

[Anonymous No.10494590]

>>10494587
newfag

[Anonymous No.10494593]

>>10494585
Yes you can, in the comments of the order you can ask them to. I know they marked down 2 jsks to like ~€80 for me when I ordered a couple of months ago.

[Anonymous No.10494610]

Managed to score this BtSSB Creamy Berry Fairy Dream JSK set with the headbow + two mini bows. It's missing the waist tie but I hardly noticed. Secondhand shop had it for $82. Any idea what it's worth? I couldn't pass up a deal and I'm sucker for mint colorways.

[Anonymous No.10494620]

>>10494610
This normally belongs in the price check thread but I just saw that it's autosaging so I'll give you a pass.
Are you trying to sell it or what? Missing waist ties will decrease the value by a lot. Doesn't help that this isn't a popular print. Based off past LM sales I'd say no more than $140 and that's only if you bundle it with the headwear.

[Anonymous No.10494626]

>>10494620
Sorry, no, not trying to sell it. I was just wasn't sure if what I thought was a good deal was overpriced or something since I sort of scrambled to purchase it when I saw the price and lack of damage.

[Anonymous No.10494839]

>>10492926
she's ESL, and a great lolita, leave her the fuck alone

[Anonymous No.10494844]

>>10494839
Sorry you got posted

[Anonymous No.10494927]

Thread survey
What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
How many dresses did you buy this year?
What type of head piece do you like most?
Least favorite print theme?

[Anonymous No.10494946]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
classic, then gothic. I don't own sweet, and classic is a little easier for me to wear casually since I have more classic cutsews than gothic
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
made 2 dresses, bought 4 dresses and two skirts
>What type of head piece do you like most?
maxipad headresses for sure! bows make me too self conscious if they're big and circle headresses have to be worn on one side and I feel like they look weird on my middle-parted hair
>Least favorite print theme?
space themes. I said what I said.

[Anonymous No.10494950]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Old school, but I'm starting to wear whatever now. As long as it matches my shoes its fair game
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
10
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Rectangle headdresses, followed by bonnets
>Least favorite print theme?
Not really a theme, but I HATE all-over cluster prints.

[Anonymous No.10494955]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Classic, casual, otome
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
6 dresses, 2 skirts
>What type of head piece do you like most?
a flower rosette or berets
>Least favorite print theme?
Sweet-borderline age-play shit, anything that refers to nerd culture and memes and that sort of stuff

[Anonymous No.10494956]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
sweet
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
about 10, i think, but i also bought some skirts
>What type of head piece do you like most?
maxipad
>Least favorite print theme?
jeebus and the sacred virgin pussy

[Anonymous No.10494972]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Gothic
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
around 15
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Hats
>Least favorite print theme?
"ageplayish" prints

[Anonymous No.10494990]

>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Classic, gothic and diluted sweet.
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
Bought 2 dresses.
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Headbows, maxipad headresses and boater hats.
>Least favorite print theme?
Memes and nerdy shit.

[Anonymous No.10494995]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most?
Classic! I wear a bit of toned down sweet and oldschool too. I like gothic, but the market is so high right now that it seems like a bad time to get in it. Plus I look really ugly in black and bright blue.
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
I have been saving up for my first home, so I haven't bought anything this year. I have a jsk and socks I'm thinking about buying tonight though, so that may change.
>What type of head piece do you like most?
hats, berets or boaters for casual wear and fancy historically inspired ones for more elaborate coords. I'm not very good at hairstyling, and I wear classic anyway, so I feel like hats usually end up looking nicest with the least effort. I also like little bows to throw on braids or pigtails.
>Least favorite print theme?
creepy cute/menhera are tacky af

[Anonymous No.10494997]

>>10494972
>>10494955
Just say you think sweet prints are a fetish. You're no better than the scrotes that fetishize us.

[Anonymous No.10495022]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Primarily punk, but also sweet, casual, a bit of old school
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
6 skirts, 2 dresses. This year I focused more on all the other parts of my wardrobe.
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Berets, smaller bows, and lots of hairclips
>Least favorite print theme?
menhera, fandom shit, any of that tumblr cringe sort of stuff

[Anonymous No.10495025]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Mainly sweet. I dabble in gothic.
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
6 so far
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Headdresses for sure, the more lace and ruffles the better.
>Least favorite print theme?
Baby rooms and baby toys. Gross. And I really don't care about the ageplayers, I just hate the aesthetic. Baby stuff isnt cute, its an eyesore you endure until your kid is old enough to develop some taste...

[Anonymous No.10495060]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Classic with a little bit of sweet or goth occasionally
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
Bought 0, made...10? Plus three that are currently in progress.
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Canotiers with small roses in the center
>Least favorite print theme?
Anything with pentagrams or baby toys.

[Anonymous No.10495069]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
gothic
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
4 and 2 skirts
>What type of head piece do you like most?
rectangle headdresses, ruffly headbands, hats
>Least favorite print theme?
flags of real-life countries and empires

[Anonymous No.10495075]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
A little bit of everything
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
30, give or take a few
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Rectangle headdresses
>Least favorite print theme?
Crosses. I actually do like them on other lolitas but I won’t buy or wear them

[Anonymous No.10495080]

>>10494927
>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Classic/gothic. Rarely sweet.
>How many dresses did you buy this year?
4 dresses, 5 skirts
>What type of head piece do you like most?
Headbands and rosettes.
>Least favorite print theme?
Toys and food, especially food in packs.

[Anonymous No.10495087]

>>10494997
>Being this triggered about others peoples opinions
cry harder little snowflake

[Anonymous No.10495088]

>>10495087
Kys

[Anonymous No.10495089]

>>10495087
It’s bait you idiot

[Anonymous No.10495100]

>>10495069
>gothic
>>Least favorite print theme?
>flags of real-life countries and empires
An anon I can agree with.

[Anonymous No.10495126]

>>10495100
DA

It's not my least favorite, but I'd never wear a piece with a bunch of real flags. I'm just not comfortable slapping a bunch of foreign flags all over myself.

I avoid crosses, pentagrams, any other religious symbols for the same reason. If it's not something I believe in it's not going on my dress.

[Anonymous No.10495130]

>>10495126
>If it's not something I believe in it's not going on my dress.
Based.

[Anonymous No.10495133]

>>10494927

>What's the style you wear most? Sweet, Classic, goth etc.
Sweet, with some old school
> How many dresses did you buy this year?
Zero because I took a year-long buying break due to the 30 I bought in 2019
> What type of head piece do you like most?
Love rectangle headdress the most but I wear Alice bows the most because I don’t have much old school and I don’t like to wear the style of sweet that uses them
> Least favorite print theme?
Memes, Disney characters, fandom stuff. Basically anything that itas always whine about wanting, like corgi butts or whatever goofy thing that they like but is objectively not aesthetic and gets shoehorned on a dress to make girls be like “look at me I’m not like the other girls, I like WEIRD things like pasta sauce”

[Anonymous No.10495145]

>>10495126
platinum retarded

[Anonymous No.10495146]

>>10495145
This

[Anonymous No.10495157]

>>10495126
I assure you that your dresses have cultural references to things you don't identify with

[Anonymous No.10495159]

>>10495157
Not if OP doesn't wear prints.

[Anonymous No.10495169]

>>10495157
Don't hurt yourself with that analyzing.

[soup No.10495170]

>>10495145
wearing dresses with crosses on them when you’re not Christian is a sin and cultural appropriating. I can link you a guy that makes lolita inspo stickers to cover up any crosses on your jsks. lmk if anyone needs any.

[Anonymous No.10495182]

>>10495145
>>10495146
>>10495157
kek, imagine being this bothered that someone won't wear ugly crosses or flags on their clothing.

[Anonymous No.10495234]

Posting here since feels thread is kill.
>finally manage to snag my dream dress
>in mint condition, great price, babby's first piece of brand
>super excited
>check the measurements out of curiosity
>waist 70-85cm
>tfw my waist is 61cm
>lose all excitement, now just worried it'll look like a potato sack on me

[Anonymous No.10495235]

>>10495234
What's the dress? It might be fine depending on the design. Or you can just take it to a tailor.

[Anonymous No.10495236]

>>10495234
Depending on the brand and cut, you might be fine. A lot of brand measurements are just the average range - if it has corset lacing on the bodice, you’ll more than likely be able to lace it up tighter than that minimum measurement. Don’t get depressed yet, anon! Just wait and see :)

[Anonymous No.10495237]

>>10495234
Are you a child?

[Anonymous No.10495246]

>>10495234
I assumed everyone checks the measurements of wishlist/dream dresses in advance. Anyway I second tailoring if it’s you dream dress, it’ll be better to get a perfect fit anyway

[Anonymous No.10495248]

>>10495235
Holy lantern zipper jsk. I feel like the high-waisted cut would have been more forgiving fit-wise? The waistline of the zipper jsk looks like it hits right at the natural waist.

>>10495236
It doesn't have corset lacing, unfortunately. Thanks for the encouragement!

>>10495237
No, just a petite hourglass. Not even an anachan, I just don't store any fat on my waist.

>>10495246
I mean I probably would have bought it anyway but it was kinda stupid of me not to check ahead of time. All of my other dresses are taobao and I've never had fit issues with them since they're usually available in several sizes. I'll wait and see how it looks on me and then decide whether or not I should get it tailored.

[Anonymous No.10495260]

>>10495248
Check out spiro, she is swimming in that jsk but makes col outfits with it.

[Anonymous No.10495264]

>>10495248
Yeah, uh, too bad anon. I have the same waist measurement as you and had to sell my zipper Holy Lantern because it was way too huge. The way I did make it work beforehand was by wearing corsets/bustiers/etc over it, which is something you could give a try at least. Other than that, at least there's other cuts that would suit you better so you don't have to go without the print.

[Anonymous No.10495267]

>>10495237
Waist 61 cm is a regular size XS, get a reality check

[Anonymous No.10495268]

>>10495100
ayrt
I don't need to believe in everything on my dress like >>10495126, I just hate imperialism and want monarchies abolished

[Anonymous No.10495271]

>>10495260
Thanks! I looked at her insta and she's like three times smaller than me and still wears it really well, so it's giving me some hope back! I'm bookmarking some of her coords for inspiration.

>>10495264
I do have a corset/cage skirt that I'm thinking could look pretty cool with it. Unfortunately I love the design and cut of the zipper jsk way more than the actual print itself...

[Anonymous No.10495276]

>>10495268
based

[Anonymous No.10495286]

I'm nervous that nothing I want has been released in months. Hopefully brands are doing okay and survive the pandemic, the IW scare came after years of me not buying their stuff anymore because of the polyester and long lengths

[Anonymous No.10495301]

Closet child has literally 800 coats for sale and yet most of my comm wears normie north face jackets or only have one plain lolita jacket to go with everything. Why spend $500 on a coord and then not have a jacket to go with it? You don’t need one in every color, but a few to be able to somewhat match just seems to be such an easy way to take the coord to the next level that most people don’t bother with.

[Anonymous No.10495308]

>>10495301
because, while cute, most aren't actually suited for a real winter with negative temperature weather. Once it starts getting below zero I forgo looking cute and dress for warmth. My normie jackets may not look as good but at least I'm actually warm.

[Anonymous No.10495309]

>>10495271
So we have really close measurements for waist (I'm 62cm) and I will say it really matters what color and what MTO/release it is.

The first re-release is huge. But I also have a new color MTO released in July that fits me perfectly. Good luck anon, hopefully you luck out with yours.

[Anonymous No.10495310]

>>10495308
Then get one that is if you're in a northern climate. They often list the materials and the time of release tells you a lot about what season it was designed for. My lolita coats are just as warm as my normie coat.

[Anonymous No.10495311]

>>10495308
Ayrt, I get what you’re saying and that makes sense for you but it doesn’t get anywhere near that cold where I live, mid-thirties at worst. I’m usually too hot in my AP or BtSSB coats

[Anonymous No.10495312]

>>10495301
Whilst I agree with you, it's weird that you care enough about what choices people make with their own wardrobes to post about it

[Anonymous No.10495315]

>>10495301
I'd buy a lolita jacket if
1. I actually went outside long enough these days
2. I wasn't living in Texas and would only use the jacket for like 3 months out of the year.
It's a shame that they're so cute but it's not worth it in my case, I'd rather buy another dress with that money.

[Anonymous No.10495317]

>>10495301
I like roomy short jackets with hoods and lolita coats are too fitted. It's also too much of a hassle finding a wool/weather practical lolita coat that's also short

[Anonymous No.10495318]

>>10495301
My shoulders are too big for coats and most capelets are too short for me. :c

[Anonymous No.10495331]

>>10495315
So you look like shit for an entire season kek

[Anonymous No.10495360]

>>10495317
sounds like you might enjoy a cape if you want roominess and a hood

[Anonymous No.10495367]

>>10495318

You definitely have to look for a full length cape. It may be worth custom ordering one from taobao or a place lile My Lolita Dress just to get all the measurements right.

Normie coats are kinda weird to wear for meets if you can afford everything else but the anon whining that everyone doesn't have multiple lolita coats is a little silly. Even some normies only have one or two coats for each of the various levels of cold/weather depending on where you live. Expecting people to have a bunch of coats rather than one workhorse that marches your wardrobe is unnecesary

[Anonymous No.10495405]

>>10495301
I'd love to have a lolita coat. But I prefer my winter stuff to be good quality wool or leather. afaik that rules out every brand but MM, and their stuff is too narrow in the shoulders for my tall-ass western frame.

[Anonymous No.10495415]

>>10495331
Yes, and...?

[Anonymous No.10495420]

New thread: >>10495419

[Anonymous No.10495432]

>>10495367
>My Lolita Dress

Not a bad idea, it does get pretty cold around my area, like potential snow/blizzard cold, but then again, I don't think I'll go out in lolita when its that cold.

[Anonymous No.10495435]

>>10495310
I've yet to see evidence of a Lolita coat that can handle regular negative degree weather on a daily basis - for pictures or short occasions sure but we are talking months of below zero temperatures, and when that happens I don't really wear Lolita too much outside of the house so no point in a lolita coat

[Anonymous No.10495439]

>>10495331
kek, keep projecting

[Anonymous No.10498167]

>>10489796
its so ugly I refuse to care

[Anonymous No.10498646]

>>10494585
If you pay by paypal they will automatically do it tax free. And yeah I asked them to mark down a dress to $50 for me and they did.

[Anonymous No.10498655]

>>10489041
>that perky booty
name of the model?

[Anonymous No.10498667]

>>10498655
村田実果子