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10482937 No.10482937 [Reply] [Original]

How many conventions are never coming back?

>> No.10482943

two hundred and fourteen

>> No.10483027

>>10482937
For every one that dies, two more shall grow in its place

>> No.10483035

>>10482937
I know this will probably get a bunch of anons panties in a bunch, but here it goes. Honestly some of these cons really needed to die, there are so many small cons that have 0 management skills, proper safety, or just huge creepfests.

I'm sad some cons actually die during this, but man some of the cons out there which I have no idea how they were hanging on need to die.

>> No.10483111

>>10482937
Most of them

>> No.10483119

>>10482937
Only cons that I know will walk this off are the giant established ones like AX, SDCC, PAX Dragoncon and Otakon. Cons like that who have been drawing over 20k for years will have the convention centers and hotels working out deals to keep them running. Even that big ass hotel Katsucon is at will be desperate for them to spend money there.

>> No.10483126

>>10483035
>ew creepers

Oh fuck off. Creepers is just what you call men that you don't find attractive who dare to even look at/talk to you.

>> No.10483250

>>10482937
A thread died for this.

>> No.10483258

>>10483126
Scrote

>> No.10483283

Hopefully all furry conventions

>> No.10483294

>>10483250
Feels thread was deleted so probably not, actually.

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>>10483126
>implying I'd fuck greasy Smash predators if they weren't mouthbreathing superspreaders
Shout out to the greatest leper colony of US cons I hope it's the only thing missing from con revivals.

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>>10482937
any con that isn't at a major convention center is at a major risk, hotel cons under 3k/4k attendance probably wont be coming back. they can't risk not having a con or an event for 1/2 years

>> No.10483590

>>10483258
My scrote lives rent free in your mouth and mind.

>> No.10483624

>>10483590
sounds like something a creep would say

>> No.10483657

>>10483126
based

>> No.10483664

Any con that wasnt bringing in at least ten to fifteen thousand attendees at their last show is in trouble. Ones that are apart of a company like PAX or AX will be fine. Tiny ones that are barely filling up some rando hotel off the interstate are gonezo.

>> No.10483665

>>10483664
This also depends on how the management was at their last event. I could name some major ones that were in the 20k ballpark or more with all that dumbass drama and infighting wont last.

Anime Matsuri in Houston Texas comes to mind.

>> No.10483801

magfest, if they don't get their financial shit together.
oh, who am I kidding, people will just continue to simp for their SJW darling, and keep throwing money at mag for walking on legos.

>> No.10484254

>>10483590
based

>> No.10484352

>>10483035
>creepfests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKwI2zZXiRE

>> No.10484359

>>10483126
NAYRT yeah basically lololol

>> No.10484362

>>10483590
Typical male. Sigh.

>> No.10484408

>>10483126
>Implying you can convince w*men otherwise
>Tfw first hand experience in going from being fat to /fit/ and seeing how different people treated me
There's no point in posting this shit lmao just deal with it uggo creep :^)

>> No.10491532

>>10483119
"giant"
"Otakon"

lol no they are about to go bankrupt

>> No.10491540 [DELETED] 

>>10483590
Ew what a creep

>> No.10495508

>>10482937
I'm willing to bet that once all of this is over, there's going to be a surge of "spiritual successors" of cons that didn't survive this.

>> No.10495514

>>10491532
o yea my bad dipshit that means that the people who go and are unrelated to the financial status of the convention dont matter when dead cities and industries are going to be begging for conventions to come back after this

>> No.10495840

>>10491532
You missed the point entirety. The people that come to Otakon are going to be stimulating the Washington DC economy by spending money on hotels, food and services. Its all about that desperately needed tax revenue that cons attract. Sure DC is the government city, but a huge amount of its tax revenue comes from the tourism and hospitality industry.

>> No.10495848

>>10482937
Cons are never coming back in California.
>Get to yellow tier which is the tier with the least restrictions
>Convention Centers will either remain closed or at 25% capacity at best.

>> No.10495854

>>10483119
AX and Otakon will suffer and go downhill since their main draw is to bring in industry guests from Japan. Now that no Japanese wants to set foot in America due to high Covid cases and racist pricks, what can those big anime cons bring to the table that is worth the money to attend if you don't have those exclusive guests coming from overseas?

>> No.10495894

>>10495854
I hope trump gets reelected. that way japanese will avoid the country for a longer time.

>> No.10495998

>>10482937
Conventions are coming back in a new way, online virtual cons.

>> No.10496047

If your attendance isnt at 5 digits then its never coming back for a few years

>> No.10496050

>>10495998
stop trying to make fetch happen

>> No.10496053

>>10483126
Bold of you to assume only men are creepers. The other anon is right, people who can't keep their hands to themselves, follow you around, and make lewd comments to you out of nowhere can fuck right off. Sorry you feel defensive.

>> No.10496085

>>10495854
Lol japan avoiding America cause of racism now that is hilarious right there. This country loves Asians. Try being black visiting Japan. It’s not a good time.

>> No.10496114

>>10496085
>Try being black visiting Japan.
Better than being black in America by leaps and bounds though.

>> No.10496116

>>10496114

As a black person who lived in Japan, 100% this. I'd rather be black in Japan than anything nonwhite in the US

>> No.10496314

>>10496116
keep shucking and jiving

>> No.10496359

>>10496314
Keep being an incel so you dont breed.

>> No.10496427

>>10495894
I doubt it Japan loves Trump and they are willing to travel in the US.

>>10495998
You're not a congoer.

>> No.10496578

>>10482937
I know for a fact that the average anime convention has a fuckton of debt even when everything's going great. So it's pretty safe to bet that 1/4-1/3 of cons are probably going to die. Most are going to be small, D-list cons put together by pissed off vendors. The university-based conventions are probably the safest.

>> No.10496606

>>10496427
>Japan loves Trump
Sauce?

>> No.10496619

You know the answer to that....all of them.

>> No.10496627

>>10496606
They obviously don't know anyone in Japan.

>> No.10496635

I actually question whether or not the big guys will be ok. They might fail, or downsize to a disappointing degree. The thing is, the bigger the con the higher the sunk costs, and depending on the timing of when they came along relative to the virus, and how financially savvy they were, they may have found themselves in MASSIVE debt. It also depends on how much they put away and invested in a decent insurance policy/how much the payouts will cover. Some leaner conventions might have much less in expenses. I worked with two mid-size cons (think 5-10k) that operates on an essentially debt free budgeting policy. Those cons will be fine no matter their size because they don’t have impending debts to sink them.

I do agree that some cons needed to die a long time ago. There’s a couple of conventions that have been known for some time to just be creep feats populated by an awful lot of non-fan frat boys looking for cheap/free booze and parties.

>> No.10496638

>>10496635
Massive debt = dissolving the Corp. or LLC to avoid personal liability. So they’ll probably just reform the entity, and hope they haven’t burned too many bridges to operate. Most will come back in some form or another.

>> No.10496761

>>10496053
the most uncomfortable moments of my life have been landwhales getting grabby and following my around dispite my words. I honestly prefer gays because theyll fuck off and be cool if youre direct with them but females will gaslight you and ignore everything you say

>> No.10496876

>>10496761
True. As the one semi-conventionally attractive male at 90% of the events I've gone to, there have been so many cases where if I ever did to a female attendee some of the things they do to me I'd be instantly booted. I'm not saying it's unfair per se, since it's pretty clear that women in the convention space get more shit and I've never felt legit unsafe, but I'e had girls come on so hard, touch my chest or ass without asking during photos, kiss my cheek without asking during photos etc. Creepy chicks at cons are definitely real.

>> No.10496908

>>10496578
I agree. University-based cons are basically bullet proof as long as no one dies/ burns down a building and the uni stays open.

>> No.10497040

Now it's confirmed that Biden won, are you ready for a nationwide lockdown for the next 4 years? That means 4 years of no cons.

>> No.10497060

>>10497040
Nice shitpost

>> No.10497138

>>10483126
this

but to be fair I think unattractive women who approach men/women are also creepy

>> No.10497349

>>10497060
It's the truth.

>> No.10497356

>Live in shit flyover state where we lose 2-3 of our cons every year even before COVID
>biggest con we have is 2000+ people in attendance at best
>can't afford to travel out of state for cons

I'm never going to go to a con again am i

>> No.10497473

>>10497356
There won't be any cons at all thanks to Biden's nationwide lockdown and mask mandate.

>> No.10497474

>>10497349
I'll no cons for a decade if it means that nobody dies of covid. My hobbies don't die just because no simps are there to suck my dick

>> No.10497496

I hope everyone is watching this election because this will be the fate of convention/cosplay industry where everything will change for /cgl/

>> No.10497499

I hope you seagulls went out and voted blue.

>> No.10497513

>>10497499
Nah, red wave is coming.

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>>10497513
HAHAHAHA

>> No.10497787

>>10497496
No matter who wins, we all lose.

>> No.10497821

>>10497473
Go to bed doomer

>> No.10497827

>>10497473
Boohoo! Nobody wants to see your ugly face anyway. I hope they start fining the fuck out of all the maskless pieces of shit. Everyone who refuses to wear masks and be sensible/hygienic is at fault for the fact that COVID is still an issue. If we all just complied with masks, 2021 wouldn't be fucked. But noooooo. Can't tell conservative snowflake babies to do anything to help anyone without them throwing a fucking tantrum.

>> No.10498404

It's going be several years before cons are back to the way they were, they are saying the vaccine could be less than 50% effective so its gonna be like this for probably 5 or more years till the virus burns out. Small local meetups maybe but big cons are gone for now.

>> No.10498416

>>10497558
Lay off, everyone knows that obese turtles can't spell

>> No.10500979

>>10483665
You guys have been saying AM isn't returning every year since like 2014...so forgive me if I'm skeptical. I'll see you at AM 2021 sister.

>> No.10500983

>>10500979
wishful thinking eh, anon? God I hate the folks at AM

>> No.10500988

>>10500983
surely THIS time they will shut down, huh gulls? Cope more, lol.

>> No.10501192

>>10482937
>How many conventions are never coming back?
All of them.

>> No.10501211

I hope Greg loses all his money and someone else steps in to manage cons in AZ

>> No.10501550

>2 cons generally held in the spring pushed their 2021 dates all the way into December
2021 confirmed DOA.

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>>10501550
Forgot image

>> No.10501557

>>10483027
It will be a corporate brand by Reedpop.

>> No.10501575

>>10501192
This an outcome anyone should expect because of lockdowns. Cosplay/Convention scene is going to be extinct because of these shitty state governors trying to decimate the economy.

>> No.10501577

>>10501575
retard

>> No.10501589

>>10501575
The Democrat governors and that governor of Maryland, the only competent Republican so far have done a great job keeping deaths down.

>> No.10501593 [DELETED] 

>>10501575
Yeah, the red state governors really are trying to decimate the economy. By allowing everything to open at full capacity and telling the public that mask mandates are unenforceable, they're the reason why we're going to need ANOTHER fucking lockdown. If they'd just enforced masks and kept capacities limited, this wouldn't be a problem. Sadly, conservatives has some really severe mental deficiency.

>> No.10501594

>>10501575
Yeah, the red state governors really are trying to decimate the economy. By allowing everything to open at full capacity and telling the public that mask mandates are unenforceable, they're the reason why we're going to need ANOTHER fucking lockdown. If they'd just enforced masks and kept capacities limited, this wouldn't be a problem. Sadly, conservatives have some really severe mental deficiency.

>> No.10501672

>>10501575
>Cosplay/Convention scene is going to be extinct
Good, I never met anyone at these shit shows that I would consider a friend.

>> No.10501705

>>10483126
if you're a man don't approach women you don't know for no reason, especially during a con, ESPECIALLY if you're ugly.

>> No.10502005

>>10501589
>The Democrat governors and that governor of Maryland, the only competent Republican so far have done a great job keeping deaths down.
Nope.

>> No.10502042

>>10500988
SIW is gone (Website too), they're being incommunicado about refunds for 2020 and spitballing ideas for 2021, it sounds like they're trying to float funds for as long as possible. Boycott didn't do much but Covid might just kill em.

Tons of people are pissed about the refunds too, so we'll see how that goes.

>> No.10502070

>>10502005
Found the 3rd world red state poster

>> No.10502113

>>10501557
Yeah that's not happening as ReedPOP is killing their unprofitable shows in 2021. Wait for them to announce that next year.

>> No.10502123

>>10502070
>says to the blue state shitposter whose state lockdown destroying their state economy
LMAO

>> No.10502161

>>10502123
Friendly reminder that you red state retards leech off of blue state federal taxes

>> No.10502172

>>10501594
>allowing the economy to function normally is killing it
>causing 75% of the country to be unemployed is saving the economy

>> No.10502392

>>10501575
Good.

Fuck cosplay and conventions.

>> No.10502397

>>10501705
i do it anyway. i met my current girlfriend by stopping her and complimenting her shirt.

>> No.10502536

>>10502161
Shut the fuck up California. Go sit down at the table
I heard you cant get corona sitting at a dining table.


Oh wait, you fucks and your ilk are the ones who made that up

>> No.10502538

>>10497827
That's racist. You cant tell blacks to wash their bodies with soap and wear a mask!

>> No.10502540

>>10502161
>Friendly reminder that you red state retards leech off of blue state federal taxes
And you leech off their food?
Who do you think would die off faster. Red state farmers without government handouts or blue state commies without food?
Red states don't generate as much taxes locally because food is cheap. That doesn't mean food isn't important.

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>> No.10502545

>>10502540
We'd be better off without shitloads of government subsidized basedbeans/corn/wheat.

Oh wait, did you forget the farmers in red states rely on government subsidies? You know, from the tax revenue that blue states take in. What would you midwesterners do without all your cheap processed food made from onions/wheat/corn? Farmers wouldn't be able to make a profit without getting government welfare.

Honestly we'd probably save money if we stopped subsidizing american farmers and just imported food. Blue states already have farms that grow shit that isn't used almost exclusively to produce empty calories. We'd definitely be a healthier nation without all the subsidized corn and shit.

>> No.10502547

>>10502545
You do know that subsidies exist so that farmers DON'T produce more produce, right?
It's not generally encouraging them to grow more, it's so they don't turn every tiny bit of land they own into a cornfield so they can actually live off the income.

Government subsidies protect natural habitats, reduce deforestation and keep food affordable. If that's not the case in America I'll take the loss on this argument then, because that's how it is here in Australia. t. M.Sc. Environmental management
>Honestly we'd probably save money if we stopped subsidizing american farmers and just imported food.
I love how your go to solution is to enslave more third worlders out of sight and out of mind to make cheap food for you.

>> No.10502559

>>10502536
Aww did the facts hurt your feelings snowflake?

>> No.10502701

I'm okay with Anime Matsuri never coming back

>> No.10502742

>>10502559
>did the facts hurt your feelings

Well there you go. These fucking idiots pretend they are the champions of humanitarian social justice but just called blacks dirty and thinking sitting while spewing food chunks makes you immune from the virus.

You can't make this shit up.

>> No.10502745

>>10502545
No they would just eat locally and not have to send their crops to faggots and trannies to onions up their fake meat burgers and lattes

>> No.10502815

>>10502701
>I'm okay with Anime Matsuri never coming back
Anime Matsuri is never going to die.

>> No.10502899

>>10502815
Did you watch the recent shitty interview on Twitch with them? They avoided the questions about money. They will keep pouring dumpster trucks into a burning trash flame as long as they're able to keep scamming idiots.

>> No.10502916

>>10501550
ACen 2021 probably isn't going to happen. Bike the Drive was supposed to be that same weekend in Chicago but recently had a date change. That's a 20,000+ person outdoor event that's now tentatively been pushed back to Fall 2021.
I don't see large cons happening until 2022. We might get some smaller under 1000 attendee cons toward the end of 2021.
Cons will eventually come back in some capacity but things will never be quite the same.

>> No.10503028

>>10502701
Prepare to be disappointed. Cause it's definitely coming back.

>> No.10503596

>>10502899
Cope more.

>> No.10503602

>>10503596
Fags like you who defend AM are why they'll never die.

>> No.10503612

>>10503602

Exactly, so get used to being wrong about it "definitely being cancelled."

Because (as you yourself admit) "fags like us" apparently are a large enough audience to keep it afloat. I enjoy the event, and so do plenty of others. your not cool or unique for hating on something that others enjoy.

Plus you just look cringy and petty when you try and to take away something that others like, simply because you don't like it.

>I'm just trying to tell you it's a rip-off

Maybe from your perspective, but I enjoy the event, and I'll continue to patronize it. where and how I spend my money is my business.

>You must have shit taste if you enjoy that shit-con

Again, not everyone will like the same things. I like AM. I'm not asking you to like it, or even to go. But you don't need to shit on people for their preferences, that's just shitty behavior, and honestly kind of cringe.

>You're ok with giving money to con artists??

Yes. I also give my money to Wal-Mart who underpays their staff, Nike who uses slave labor in jakarta, apple who has sweatshops in china Etc. I fail to see why or how this is any different. I'm spending money and I'm having fun, that is the long and short of it. I'm not supporting any "agenda" or whatever schitzo crazy idea you may convince yourself of.

>Things will never change if you don't support GOOD cons

Again, I'm fine with AM and I enjoy it. Plus it's not my responsibility to "change" the scene. If something better comes along, sure I'll jump ship. That's the free market at work. But until that day comes I'll continue to enjoy myself.

>> No.10503645

>>10503612
Go suck on Trump's cock too while you're at getting some COVID down your throat. If you're okay to defend giving admitted sham organizers money to anons who warn that their the AIDS of anime cons then prepare to be mocked.

>> No.10503810

>>10503645
Still going. Cope more.

>> No.10503824

>>10503810
I'll keep shitting on you until AM is deservingly dead. I don't care if I'm ruining your fun.

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>>10503824
>I don't care if I'm ruining your fun.

You're what's wrong with modern society

>> No.10503997

>>10503951
Defending AM to me is like defending Trump and Nazis. AM has had literal Nazis show up which they did nothing. If that's okay with you then suit up.

>> No.10504002

>>10503997
>Defending AM to me is like defending Trump and Nazis.
I really don't know why people who make and wear their own clothing as a hobby think that they have an educated opinion on world politics. I'm not insulting cgl by the way, I'm just saying that I respect your political takes about as much as I would respect a career politician's thoughts on my coord.
Please just shut the fuck up and stay on topic.

>> No.10504021

>>10503997
>Defending AM is like defending trump and nazis to me

You're comparing a houston based anime convention to the 3rd reich...who is responsible for the death of 11 million people and the toppling of entire nations...and you expect me to take you seriously? Ok schitzo.


>AM had litteral nazis show up

You wholeheartedly believe that a member of the German national socialist party was present at AM...that he was sniffing out jews here in Houston...in broad daylight.. are you nuts?

He was an edgelord with a shitty cosplay ment to get a reaction out of crazys like you

A dude showing up in an offensive cosplay (while in bad taste) is not equivalent to the genocide of a people.

Plus, he was not a staff member or even affiliated with the convention...he was just some guy who came to the con, lol.

You're wondering why nobody took BAM or the boycott seriously? This... this is why.

>> No.10504058

>>10503997
Take your medication.

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>>10504021
>>10504058
>>10504002

It's good to know that Proud Boys / Proud Girls attend AM as they're standing by to defend them.

CGL never disappoints. It's talking to an echo chamber to people who are presented a decade of depraving acts that AM has committed. It doesn't matter what people see or hear as they want to stay oblivious to it.

>> No.10504078

>>10503997
godwins law in action

>> No.10504079

>>10504063
>Everyone I don't like is a nazi / racist / sexist / proud boy / etc.

Ok schitzo.

>> No.10504083

>>10503997
The incels defending AM are retarded but so are you you turbo autist

>> No.10504108

>>10504063
I don't even know what Anime Matsuri is, let alone what the people involved are alleged to have done. I just know that you need to take your medication.

>> No.10505203

>>10504063
Proud Boys are cool dudes. If they were ever to go to an anime con they'd probably be fun to have a beer with.

Not sure what your possible beef would be with them, other than they voted for Trump and that makes you mad.

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>>10483801

https://friendsofmag.com/

How right you were, take a look at the docs they linked. None of this shit adds up, it just reads like a bunch of people that don't want to lose a comfy "non-profit" position that got pissed when they didn't get a cut from the telethon people threw money at.
I feel sick for paying money to go to this thing for years now. The entire thing deserves to collapse.
Almost got assaulted by random dipshits this year too, fuck MAG and especially fuck everyone involved in running it. It's not safe for anybody, it's a money laundering rape mill and I have no hope it'll improve even if the entire thing is purged. I'd rather go to fucking CPAC.

>> No.10505583

>>10505241
>Bitching about all white men

Trannies fucking ruin everything

>> No.10505797

>>10502916
>Cons will eventually come back in some capacity but things will never be quite the same.
Cons will be dead before 2022. Do you not realize the cosplay scene is dying rapidly like small business are dying everywhere.

>> No.10505808

Ohayocon is too big to die right fa.m?

>> No.10505863

>>10505797
You mean a correction. There were too many cons anyway. The big ones will survive. The shitty small ones will die.

>> No.10505894

>>10505797
I fucking wish, fucking purge this disgusting ass toxic loserfag culture. It's just a bunch of sensitive attentionwhore nobodies who bitch when they get objectified nowadays, holy shit. And when OnlyFans and Twitch normies rise and steal their fame, it doesn't help their case and reveals cosplay to be a minority fetish. It shows that cosplay culture is desperate bullshit. It's just a bunch of manchildren and loserfags who indulge in failed attempts at popularizing delusional masquerading but never made it in the party scene and never will. And when you throw SJWs and LGBT white women propaganda in the mix, oh man, guess where the party's going.

>> No.10506021

>>10505797
cosplay has only gotten more mainstream as time goes by and cons have been getting more and more crowded, what is your evidence that it's dying?

>> No.10512183

>>10482937
I just realize the first mega show that is likely never coming back is E3. They were already deep in shit and the Pandemic is the final nail in the coffin. Game developers and publishers realize why the fuck should they waste money and gather en masse, when they could do all of their pressers online and then release the demo worldwide to download right after.

>> No.10512451

There were too many cons to be sustainable as it was.

>> No.10512559

>>10504063
Would be more willing to talk to proud boy then an antifa member

>> No.10512573

I hope fanime and anime expo comes back. they’re the only cons that matter anyways