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Lolital General - Please Buy Our Burando Edition Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:49:31 2020 No.10428451 [Reply] [Original]

Previous thread: >>10426032

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:51:33 2020 No.10428453 >>10428444 Nah, I want them to keep rereleasing stuff. I already got one of my dream dresses this way. It's so much nicer when I can buy the print I want directly from the brand.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:56:45 2020 No.10428459 >>10428444 Is it still cotton or is it poly? I'm cool with this, it'll flush the price down even further. It's a dress I kinda want but not at 400+ dollarinos.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 22:59:26 2020 No.10428461 >>10428451 I WANT to buy IW's shit, but I'm fucking 5 feet tall. Can they please go back to offering regular knee-length dresses again? I'm sick of the tea length.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:02:19 2020 No.10428462 >>10428461 i mean the japanese girls aren't that much taller.

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:05:55 2020 No.10428463

>>10428453
Sorry, I also want them to keep rereleasing things. What I meant is that I don't want this to turn into a serial rerelease like Melody Toys and Holy Lantern. I want some prints that never got any rereleases before.

>>10428459
Not sure if it's even a MTO at this point. I doubt the price will go below $400 - that's the retail price, before tax. I think only desperate people would sell for lower.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:08:51 2020 No.10428466 >>10428462 It always throws me for a loop that Sailor Jupiter is what, 5'6?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:09:43 2020 No.10428467 >>10428459 The MTO was cotton so this is probably cotton too. And $400 is a small price to pay for CTP. You sound kind of poor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:11:47 2020 No.10428469 >>10428467 hahahaha no. I've paid much more than that for dresses and coats that I really want, I just only sort of want CTP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:12:14 2020 No.10428470 >>10428466 holy shit you're right, usagi is 4'11"

Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:17:17 2020 No.10428471

>>10428469
I guess if you feel lukewarm about a dress then you wouldn't want to pay $400. But expecting/hoping the price will fall below what it's selling directly from AP for is kind of dumb? No one is going to lower thier price for you just because you only "kind of" want the dress. Maybe you'd get an old damaged one? Or in a few years?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:18:32 2020 No.10428472 >>10428467 I've paid $450 for a salopette I really wanted and far more for JSKs. I also wouldn't pay over $400 for CTP, it's just not cute enough to warrant it imo. Anon probably feels the same.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:22:31 2020 No.10428476 >>10428472 >$450 for a salopette Yikes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:24:23 2020 No.10428477 >>10428476 I know, but desu it was worth it. One of my most-worn pieces by far.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:29:39 2020 No.10428478 >>10428472 It's okay. It's just an odd opinion to me. Personally if I want a dress, I'm willing to pay the original price (given it's not in crap condition).

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 3 23:40:32 2020 No.10428481 >>10428471 >Maybe you'd get an old damaged one? Or in a few years? That's the hope. I like buying used but nice condition dresses for cheaper.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:21:49 2020 No.10428491 >>10428441 >did anyone else see fujiwarasan post a weird tweet two days ago calling out people who dont wear lolita and saying they have bad taste and that she doesnt want to associate with them??? I'd also like to see caps if someone else caught it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:32:48 2020 No.10428494 >>10428477 What salopette?

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:33:49 2020 No.10428495
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Why do people do this? Isn't "reserving" a form of a hold? She could have gotten more from an auction.

>you're just jealous!
I have this colorway of this bag. I'm just triggered and mad at the secondhand market lately

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 00:50:16 2020 No.10428504 >>10428495 No idea, it was up for like $30 more unreserved for a bit. I don't know why it was marked down for reservation unless a buyer made an offer, but in that case you can just... invoice them for the lower price?

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:01:06 2020 No.10428507

>>10428504
Wow. That's... I don't even know. It's kind of common knowledge that you don't jump at the first offer if it's lower than what you want.

I think the reason it gets to me is that lately with the secondhand AP my problem hasn't been the price of the item, it's just that I can't get to it in time. It's either sold very fast, reserved, or someone offers a lower price and the seller agrees (I'm looking at you, mercari/fril). I know I'm being salty, but it's just like.... damn it. Let me give you my money. I would have paid more.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:01:35 2020 No.10428509

>>10428463
>I want some prints that never got any rereleases before.
I want this too but I'm ok with them rereleasing prints over and over as long as they add new colorways like they did with HL.
That's not the case with CTP but maybe we'll get other colorways in the future of that one.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:08:16 2020 No.10428511

>>10428507
I had this happen recently with a Vanilla-Chan necklace. Someone commented and wanted it for 2,000 yen less. I was literally crying and sweating buckets. Then my SS came through and bought it at the original listing price. But god. I would have been furious if the seller had responded quick enough and given the commenter the discount.

>>10428509
I have a small wish that CTP gets rereleased in sax.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:21:02 2020 No.10428525 >>10428511 >I have a small wish that CTP gets rereleased in sax. anon that you replied to- that's exactly what I was hoping too!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 01:48:15 2020 No.10428548 >>10428525 YES same here! It'd look fantastic, contrast without being gray.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:07:21 2020 No.10428555 >>10428525 Yessss but also imagine: lavender ctp I'm not even sweet but I'd get it if it came in lav

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:08:04 2020 No.10428556 >>10428555 >Yessss but also imagine: lavender ctp I would also love this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 02:43:06 2020 No.10428577 Thinking about trying to get CTP in grey since I was broke last time, does anyone know if this new release is cotton? https://twitter.com/AP_onlineshop/status/1279231258514436098

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:42:25 2020 No.10428604 >>10428577 Read the fucking thread, tard.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:49:31 2020 No.10428607

>>10428495
If there was a trade or a new price was negotiated, a listing will go up so the buyer/trader can leave feedback.

Sometimes if I find a expired listing I'll pm the seller for it and ask them to make a new listing for me. Feedback is golden afterall

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 03:55:34 2020 No.10428614 I hope CTP comes in poly with plus size measurements, like HC I want to see CGL burn

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:11:24 2020 No.10428624 File: 66 KB, 720x960, 1592303739064.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428614

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:13:03 2020 No.10428626 >>10428614 if you think poly is somehow acceptable something is wrong with you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:20:20 2020 No.10428628 >>10428614 It’s already got a generous sizing. How much more space do you people need???

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:32:33 2020 No.10428629 >>10428626 Yeah I don't care much if the sizing is too big because things can be taken in but poly is the devil desu

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:50:42 2020 No.10428652 >>10428626 >>10428629 why is poly bad?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:52:06 2020 No.10428655 >>10428652 Because REEEEE

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:54:37 2020 No.10428660 >>10428655 I definitely get that from the several posts I've seen about it on /cgl/ now and in the past but I was wondering if there was more to it than that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:57:39 2020 No.10428664 >>10428652 >>10428660 It feels low-quality compared to cotton, results in far less sharp prints, and sometimes drapes weirdly. Also can last far less time if not taken care of. Its only advantage is not bleeding.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 04:59:25 2020 No.10428666 >>10428664 >results in far less sharp prints, and sometimes drapes weirdly interesting. I've never experienced that but I believe it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:11:09 2020 No.10428671 >>10428666 Here, anon, Ice Cream Parlor on poly vs Merry Making Party on cotton. It also has a visible grain and noticeable sheen irl.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:12:20 2020 No.10428673 File: 733 KB, 1080x1428, Screenshot_20200704_051022.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428666 Here, anon, Ice Cream Parlor on poly vs Merry Making Party on cotton. It also has a visible grain and noticeable sheen irl.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:17:31 2020 No.10428680

>>10428652
Do people not realize that the main difference between natural and artificial fabrics is breathablity? Artificial materials don’t breathe as well, so wearing them in summer more then often results in being a sweaty mess, which then leads to “lolita is impossible to wear casually”. At least that’s my reason for preferring cotton.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:25:26 2020 No.10428686 >>10428680 But on the other hand cotton wrinkles easier. For that reason cotton blend would be the best.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:26:29 2020 No.10428688

>>10428680

With lolita even cotton dresses have poly lining though so it's not significantly more breathable other than BTSSB who doesn't always line their bodices (which I prefer, lolita takes layers if you like jsks and I live in the southern US so even in "winter" it's hot and sweaty to wear a ton of poly)

I just in general prefer natural fibers for most woven fabric barring ones where there is a significant increase in function or aesthetic benefit (chiffon, for example, or different netting fabrics in petticoats) because it is easier for me to care for personally (poly gets runs and scratches and all) cheap synthetic stuff often just doesn't feel like real clothes to me? Reminds me too much of cheap fast fashion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:28:48 2020 No.10428691 >>10428673 I see indentation on both.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:30:03 2020 No.10428693

>>10428686

Are lolitas all lazy?

Everyone complains about how hard it is to launder or keep cotton neat but ironing or steaming isn't that hard? Or the old "hang up your clothes fresh from the dryer so they don't wrinkle" trick?

I guess I shouldn't be shocked when half this community still acts like they can't wash brand in a normal washing machine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:30:25 2020 No.10428694 >>10428691 It's not visible on the cotton unless you're looking at it very closely, on ICP it's visible from afar. Especially noticeable irl.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:36:25 2020 No.10428696

>>10428694
>It's not visible on the cotton unless you're looking at it very closely
I mean, I commented cause it's the first thing I noticed besides the prints themselves.

>>10428693
Not that anon but I have seen others complain about how when they put on a cotton dress it immediately wrinkles and ruins photos.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:45:07 2020 No.10428698

>>10428693
After ironing the dress once just before wearing it I find it near impossible for it to visibly wrinkle during the day. The only thing that does is the part of the blouse under it. Nothing like >>10428696 describes. I feel like lolita is heavy enough to not wrinkle? You’d have to just throw it in your wardrobe like a retard for it to be bad enough to ruin your photos,

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:53:49 2020 No.10428701

>>10428696

>Not that anon but I have seen others complain about how when they put on a cotton dress it immediately wrinkles and ruins photos.

I'm not saying you or those people are liars...but this just doesn't sound true or logically possible if it's properly laundered and ironed. I have never worn a cotton item that just somehow lost its structure or press after putting it on, and I live in a super humid and hot climate.

I think this must be an issue of people just not understanding steamers, ironing, and laundry. I have never had a lolita dress (all mine are cotton) wrinkle on me unless I wore it to bed or stored my laundry in a pile because I didn't have time to hang it and it was something really thin like certain BTSSB cotton items.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 05:57:22 2020 No.10428702 >>10428701 Oh yeah, I haven't had that experience either, I just recognized it as a thing that was talked about here before in the past.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:00:13 2020 No.10428704

>>10428698
Eh, for the most part I agree but not every cotton dress is heavy. I have a few dresses made of lighter cotton that definitely wrinkle a bit during daily wear. Most activities won't do that but for me sitting down, especially in public transport, will create wrinkles in the back of the dress. It's hard to avoid this because even if I make sure to pull most of the dress to the sides and "straighten" the bit I sit on, some wrinkles will still show.

>>10428688
I've always wondered about people saying they prefer cotton because of the breathability, since like you said most dresses have poly lining anyway.
Cotton blouses are a godsend though. I got a couple airy sheer-ish chiffon blouses to wear during summer, but they make me sweat like crazy. As it turns out I'm better off wearing my thicker cotton blouses when it's warm out.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:07:23 2020 No.10428708

>>10428702

Probably made up anecdotes from poly loving/defending people. There really is rarely ever reason for a non chiffon dress, at least AP border print style, besides price to not be cotton or at least a nicer quality poly. It usually looks worse and lasts less time and feel weird and cheap. I am also just triggered and will never recover from the HC MTO desu so hit me up if you have the switching JSK in yellow anons.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:08:09 2020 No.10428709

Probably made up anecdotes from poly loving/defending people. There really is rarely ever reason for a non chiffon dress, at least AP border print style, besides price to not be cotton or at least a nicer quality poly. It usually looks worse and lasts less time and feel weird and cheap. I am also just triggered and will never recover from the HC MTO desu so hit me up if you have the switching JSK in yellow anons.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:10:09 2020 No.10428711 >>10428709 Weird. I thought I double posted by mistake but this one can't be deleted so I guess someone reposted my post or something

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:11:52 2020 No.10428713 >>10428711 >>10428706

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:15:49 2020 No.10428716

>>10428704
Not all dresses are lined, but even if they are you can feel the difference between a layer of cotton and second layer of poly, but that might be just me. I live in a climate with both harsh winters and hot summers, so I find it difficult to get used to high temperatures. If temperature doesn’t get much higher than 25C I doubt it makes a difference though.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 06:22:39 2020 No.10428717

>>10428716

Nayrt but yeah I think there is still a bit of a difference especially since lining poly is super thin.

I remember when people were roasting BTSSB JSK quality for not having lined bodices but if you live anywhere it gets warm it is more of a feature than a bug imo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:00:32 2020 No.10428738 This makes me wonder, has a lolita brand ever released a real silk blouse/dress? Real silk is a bit of a faff sometimes but some of its blends are great for summer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:24:15 2020 No.10428755 It looks like CTP is not an MTO. AP Paris just sent out the anniversary email and it says it will arrive in 1-2 weeks.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:31:37 2020 No.10428762 >>10428738 do you how silk is harvested? it's pretty horrific. i wouldn't wear it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:34:12 2020 No.10428769 >>10428738 do you know how silk is harvested? it's pretty horrific. i wouldn't wear it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:40:08 2020 No.10428778 >>10428769 That's mostly why it's expensive. Also what's horrific about it? It doesn't even kill any of the moths, and they evolved so that they probably wouldn't survive without humans anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:41:04 2020 No.10428780 >>10428778 >moths thought it was spiders?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:48:45 2020 No.10428791 File: 40 KB, 450x337, CE5A427A-FBD0-4642-AF74-36B7FD56050E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428780 Nah, cute little moths

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 07:49:36 2020 No.10428794 >>10428791 god they are so cute. Are there any good moth prints out there?

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:02:16 2020 No.10428804

>>10428778
It doesn't harm any moths as it's harvested before the larvae gets into that state. But the larva is boiled alive in the silk cocoon.There are ways to get the silk out without harming the larvae but it's more expensive or the quality of silk is worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 08:05:06 2020 No.10428808 I really want a circus cookie print dress. I'm surprised that hasn't been made.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 09:43:24 2020 No.10428858

>>10428652
Personally, I dislike buying synthetics online since I don't know what it'll end up looking like irl. With cotton/silks/viscose it's hard to fuck up, 95% of the items end up being to my liking, while like 15% of polys end up being a poly that I both like the look and feel of. I've touched IW/AP/MmM/Baby which imo was plastic bag tier, but I also own poly items that I gladly payed retail for. It's the gamble that I dislike, I don't want to shell out 400€ just to end up with a dress made in (imo) worse fabrics than what I find at fast fashion brands. I'd rather just go to the high end fabric store and drop 150€ on 100% silk velvet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:00:03 2020 No.10428860 >>10428769 >>10428791 I'd boil that fucker for a nice silk blouse

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:23:50 2020 No.10428864
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JetJ made an anti-bacterial mask with the La Dame à la licorne print which will be put on sale later. Customers who ordered the La Dame à la licorne Robe 2020 from JetJ's official site will also receive one as a free gift.
>https://twitter.com/J_et_J/status/1279415085908271107

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:25:04 2020 No.10428866 >>10428495 >I'm not jealous, I have this colorway of this bag >sadday.png sure jan This has been a thing for years. People always say "I would have paid more!" but then the listing just sits or sat there untouched for several weeks.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 10:52:54 2020 No.10428879

>>10428858
If your fabric store is telling you that the silk velvet they sell is 100% silk they’re probably lying or we’re mislead themselves. There are only about two manufacturers in the world (one in France one in Australia, I believe) who make 100% silk velvet and it’s about $300 a yard. Almost all silk has some rayon blended in. If you find a website that says it is 100% silk on the link, once you click it and investigate it’ll say something like 100% silk & rayon blend

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 11:33:50 2020 No.10428896 >>10428441 Ooh, I wish you had caps anon! I wonder if she meant people who only buy and hoard but don't wear the clothes. I can't see her straight dissing normies for not wearing lolita.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:02:44 2020 No.10428914 File: 282 KB, 1060x1651, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428896 No caps, but replies to her tweet are still up. I'll post 'em.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:03:09 2020 No.10428916 >>10428698 >>10428701 Have you guys never ironed or steamed a cotton dress only for it to wrinkle to hell in the car or train on the way to the meet? Poly is a little better depending on the weave

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:03:48 2020 No.10428919 File: 374 KB, 1080x1652, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428914

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:04:58 2020 No.10428923 File: 293 KB, 1080x1454, 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428919

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:06:00 2020 No.10428926 File: 509 KB, 1080x1927, 4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428923 This one is unrelated, but I thought it was interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:07:37 2020 No.10428929 >>10428470 Well, isn't she 14?

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:09:15 2020 No.10428931

>>10428693

Eh. I'm just that lazy, and I don't see this as something to be ashamed of. A shortcut is a shortcut. I ain't gonna complain that technology made my life easier.

I mean, we can debate other things like whether polyester looks better or worse but I really don't see the point of saying "I like doing more work therefore I buy cotton".

Anyway. Most of the comments I've seen about ironing is usually about travelling. The poly dresses roll up pretty light and small (the ones that don't come with in-built petticoats) and you can simply shake them out at the destination.

Actually I used to do this with Innocent World, Emikyu and Leur Getter, not Angelic Pretty, because they've been using polyester in their dresses since forever ago. AP really only got easier to travel with after they went polyester and also dtiched their built-in petticoat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:11:24 2020 No.10428933 >>10428652 Personally i cant wear poly after tripping on LSD. I wear only cotton/linen/bamboo/rami etc

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:21:08 2020 No.10428938 >>10428916 Literally never happened to me. Maybe I'm just lucky or the wrinkles are in the back so I don't notice? I dunno. I typically stand on public transit though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:23:32 2020 No.10428939 >>10428916 Only thin cotton wrinkles. I have an old iw jsk made of really thick cotton and it's impossible to wrinkle it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:26:24 2020 No.10428942 File: 49 KB, 458x458, 98BC6030-3266-4ED2-B295-D8D5293F2BD6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's too bad this is a poly disaster. The Paris special set is a great colourway

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:33:50 2020 No.10428950

>>10428926
Cyberbullying caused a girl on Terrace House to off herself, it's sad that they aren't doing more to address it. It makes me sad that they comment such bullshit on her channel, I like Misako's channel. She releases pretty often and at least her content is interesting somewhat.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:34:40 2020 No.10428951

>>10428931

I'm lazy and even I think cotton isn't that hard desu. Just hang it up warm from the dryer and steam any lace trim that is out of place and it's easy to wear.

I think the aesthetic detriment poly does to printed pieces far outweighs the minor inconvenience of cotton being a tiny bit harder to care for. I don't want to feel like I'm wearing a garbage bag and the shiny look is so bad. Poly can be better than what AP is doing.

I'll stick to secondhand cotton and going for cotton MTOs when I can (so sad I missed Toy Doll Box) until they release more, and I don't judge people for preferring poly, I just disagree with the logic/have different priorities and will buy according to my own preferences.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:36:29 2020 No.10428953 >>10428939 Yeah as I mentioned upthread only really thin BTSSB cotton pieces wrinkle on me, and only if I literally wear them to sleep. I like thin cotton for hot weather though so it's nice to have.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:38:34 2020 No.10428955

>>10428942

This is so adorable but you can see the plasticky reflection even in the photos. RIP AP even their good shit is made less cute by poly. At this point is rather it be chiffon if it has to be polyester because at least AP makes nice quality chiffon dresses. Sugar hearts is super cute and this could be something nice like that if they'd all been chiffon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:43:26 2020 No.10428958 File: 359 KB, 720x925, IMG_20200704_193023.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] WTF

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:45:37 2020 No.10428963 >>10428942 Yeah, it's sad because I would've been all over this release if it weren't for the cheap, shiny looking poly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:53:48 2020 No.10428968 >>10428958 Anon, you can't just post something like that without context

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 12:57:09 2020 No.10428974 >>10428968 This is an insta profile with pics of lolita coords photoshopped onto mal e celebrities

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 13:02:43 2020 No.10428983

This one LM seller listed something claiming price was firm then lowered her price like 3 times then deleted it and relisted recently with a price $25 higher than their last dropped price.

So weird...like why claim you won't lower a price and then price drop it repeatedly but then slightly increase it to basically be in between the highest and the cheapest price?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:21:08 2020 No.10429019 >>10428879 Yeah anon you're right I quoted the wrong number, checked their website and the velvet I was thinking about is a blend, their 100% silk velvet are at 400€ (including 25% tax) and stored behind counter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:21:32 2020 No.10429020 >>10428755 So CTP is not a MTO, but AP Paris is getting more in stock?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 14:34:03 2020 No.10429026 >>10428974 And it is fucking beautiful. I need the laugh right now and they deliver.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 16:04:23 2020 No.10429080 Where can I get a nice lolita stuffed animal for my room? Like a cute rabbit in a lolita outfit with lace and ribbons stuff.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 17:15:21 2020 No.10429114

>>10428983
I mean there are many feeling when you try to sell something. You always have an expectation of it’s value and there is a kind of panic when you list it and it doesn’t sell for the price. Sounds like that seller is fighting an internal battle over the value and you are catching a glimpse of it.
If it was an item I’d want I’d prolly snoop in and try to haggle, it’s obvious that they are doubting the price they want lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:05:06 2020 No.10429150 >>10428858 >plastic bag tier guess I've just been lucking out with all my purchases from japanese brands but I've never felt any dress that similar texture as a plastic bag. All mine are extremely soft.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:09:31 2020 No.10429154 File: 314 KB, 641x482, vlcsnap-2020-06-13-14h19m47s633.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10428958 This is like a bad Conan O'Brien sketch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:13:03 2020 No.10429160 >>10428664 In addition a lot of people find it uncomfortable or less pleasant to touch.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:14:13 2020 No.10429162

>>10428717
BTSSB dresses frankly don't need lining because they are incredibly thick. Lining is only strictly necessary if the dress is made of a material that sticks to itself (not even an issue, with a petticoat) or if the fabric is thin and sheer in direct sunlight.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 18:27:35 2020 No.10429168 >>10428958 is this some kind of fetish? i don't even care, i love it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:06:21 2020 No.10429209 >>10428864 I've been into fancy masks for classic lolita so I might actually cave and buy it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:13:16 2020 No.10429212 >>10429080 Nowhere. Begone

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:16:44 2020 No.10429216 >>10429080 Take the straps off a Lyrical Bunny/Usakumya bag.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 19:57:08 2020 No.10429248 >>10429216 There are also a lot of lolita inspired my melody plushes from Sanrio; one is a cute chocolate designed one

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 20:49:51 2020 No.10429282 >>10428939 AP cotton gives me trouble, Meta stays nice after ironing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 20:53:35 2020 No.10429285 >>10428951 >dryer It’s fairly rare in Japan to own a dryer. Everyone just hangs their laundry

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 4 20:58:33 2020 No.10429289 >>10428929 I dunno about you, but I stopped growing taller at 14.

Anonymous Sat Jul 4 21:24:56 2020 No.10429302

>>10429285

I lived in an apartment in Japan and we had washers and dryers. Women often worry about hanging laundry and the people who ran the place had separate laundry rooms for women as a result of underwear theft.

It's different depending on where you live.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 02:12:39 2020 No.10429511

>>10428914
>>10428919
>>10428923
I think she's being critical of people who don't wear lolita, but think they should be allowed to ridicule it vs. people just ignoring it. The general Japanese normie can be exceptionally salty about people sticking out and not adhering to all the "rules" (especially since Fujiwara isn't super young), so maybe she's calling out those people for having bad taste. Naturally, some normies would get offended, though, like in the first tweet, because the other replies are happy that someone called the rude people out. Unfortunately, her tweet comes out as rude in the culture...especially how she did it and as a business owner, that reflects poorly on the business.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 03:05:04 2020 No.10429551 >>10428942 why does it look so dark?? it would be so nice in a more 2010 shade of sax (especially if cotton)

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 03:10:32 2020 No.10429556

>>10428933
Random question
Did taking L make you feel weird or bad about your lolita hobby?
I used to trip regularly but haven't the past year or so, im just now picking up lolita again after ten years of forgetting about it. I get hella introspective and I don't want L to ruin lolita for me lol so I was wondering what your experience was like

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 03:46:54 2020 No.10429582 >>10428933 >>10429556 Can we, you know, like, not take illegal drugs?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 03:52:28 2020 No.10429584 >>10429582 Can you like Mind your own business if it doesn't concern you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 03:56:40 2020 No.10429586 >>10429584 >Mind your own business o srry bro i didnt kno this was a private chat room lemme just sign off

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 03:59:20 2020 No.10429589

>>10429586
I promise you will be okay if you have to witness a conversation that is likely between to adults discussing something that doesn't affect anyone but the people engaging in it. Better yet, you could just ignore it and go on your merry way.
Literally just scroll past it. Nobody is telling you that you have to do anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:00:26 2020 No.10429590 >>10429586 Are you 12?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:02:22 2020 No.10429593 >>10429582 sorry, are we a collective of people who can't make their own decisions now? i'm against drugs for myself but other people doing them outside likely 50+ miles of you does not affect you at all

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:04:14 2020 No.10429596 >>10429589 >doesn't affect anyone but the people engaging in it it affects your family who raised you specifically not to do that shit and would be so ashamed and probably disown you if they knew lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:05:39 2020 No.10429599 >>10429596 Holy shit, holier than thou anon is back

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:07:22 2020 No.10429602 >>10429596 Why do you care what family thinks of me, random anon? Fuckin weirdo. You're the type that would think weed is on par with meth until its legalized, then its suddenly good. Cuz you know, illegal= bad and legal = 100% moral and good

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:08:21 2020 No.10429604 >>10429589 >>10429590 >>10429593 Anon's original question was stupid. >I don't want L to ruin lolita for me lol Okay? So don't take it. No one cares about your drug habit. I'm sure you feel like a kawaii edgelord.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:08:25 2020 No.10429605 >>10429596 Please fuck off. Not everyone's family has a huge stick up their ass like you, anon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:10:17 2020 No.10429607 >>10429604 Nobody cares and nobody asked you what you think. If you don't like drugs then don't engage with a conversation that involves them. Do you go up to random people and shout at them if they're talking about illegal things too?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:13:46 2020 No.10429611 >>10429596 It actually doesn't affect my family at all. Where do you even get that dumb idea? Wow you're really stupid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:15:27 2020 No.10429614 >>10429605 >>10429611 go ahead and tell your parents about your drug use and see what their reaction is lmao. no one raises their child to do drugs and it's basically every parent's nightmare

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:16:55 2020 No.10429616 >>10429614 Did your mom smoke crack while she was pregnant with you? That's the only thing that could explain why you're so stupid and triggered by drugs.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:17:14 2020 No.10429618 >>10429614 Are you a drug baby or something?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:18:05 2020 No.10429619 >>10429611 Pretty sure the only stupid person here is the one who takes a hallucinogenic substance to feel good. Now please stay out of lolita like you have for the last 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:19:19 2020 No.10429621 >>10429619 OK meth baby. Smoke some weed and chill out brah

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:20:51 2020 No.10429623 >>10429616 >>10429618 >>10429621 lol @ anon's brain being so fucked up from drugs that all they can think about is drug-related insults

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:21:51 2020 No.10429624 >>10429623 Die mad, weirdo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:23:27 2020 No.10429626 >>10429623 Next time I trip I'm gonna wear a full coord and think of u

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:23:53 2020 No.10429628 >>10429556 Well, i trip very rarely, like once a year or so, and i never felt bad about wearing lolita

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:27:24 2020 No.10429630 File: 39 KB, 500x600, FB_IMG_1593937456727.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did anyone get Horoscope Carnival and end up liking it irl?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:28:00 2020 No.10429631 >>10429628 oh thats good, I just wondered bc I know a lot of people get the same "antimaterialism" sentiment when they trip but i know that's not the case for all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:30:09 2020 No.10429634 >>10429630 No, but I got the blouse and I love it! I wish more blouses came with chokers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:33:57 2020 No.10429638 >>10429634 I also got the blouse in navy! Waiting on it in the mail rn, glad you're liking it!

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:34:54 2020 No.10429640

>>10429556
not the anon you replied to but I've done acid and worn lolita and it was totally fine.
I've done other hallucinogens too and it's not effected my want to wear the hobby but I really love it so I don't think anything would stop me from wearing it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:36:33 2020 No.10429643 >>10429640 Good to know, thanks anon!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:39:47 2020 No.10429647 >>10429616 normal people are anti-drugs and anti-crimes. aka most people in the world. congrats on being a degenerate who is too scared to tell your parents because you know how ashamed they'd be

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:40:51 2020 No.10429649 >>10429618 ask me how i know you're white.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:42:40 2020 No.10429650 >>10429649 Ooh, a shoot and a miss. I’m not white.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:43:25 2020 No.10429652 >>10429647 >>10429649 why are you like this do you not have like, one other thing to do right now? just this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:44:21 2020 No.10429653 >>10429638 Mine is navy too! It’s beautiful anon, you’re gonna love it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:46:09 2020 No.10429657 >>10429652 i was raised well. sorry about your poor trailerpark upbringing

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:47:09 2020 No.10429658 >>10429650 very believab

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:48:42 2020 No.10429662 >>10429658 It really doesn’t make a difference to me what race you think I am, believe it or not.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:48:47 2020 No.10429663 [DELETED]

>>10429647
Yeah and most people are pro-alcohol while being anti illegal drugs that do less harm, doesn't mean its not retarded. Victimless crimes shouldn't be crimes, commonly held beliefs aren't always moral. But you don't care about that. You just want to be triggered by random people doing drugs.

I can't imagine how stressed you must be every time someone mentions drugs. Hope you get over that hang up, it ain't healthy to get mad over things you can't control.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:49:20 2020 No.10429664 >>10429650 better hope ur white, any other race of parents will fully disown your ass, esp asians. white hippie trash might give u a pass

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:50:22 2020 No.10429666 >>10429662 so how does your family feel about your drug use? oh, you never told them? gee i wonder why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:50:57 2020 No.10429667 >>10429647 I'm an adult, my mom also wants me to be a Christian, doesn't mean I am, nor am I losing sleep over the fact that she doesn't approve of it. Go tell somebody who cares.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:51:48 2020 No.10429668 >>10429663 i don't hang out with poor, mentally ill people so usually i'm good thx. it's not victimless and i feel very bad for your family who spent all that money and time raising you for you to turn out like this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:52:49 2020 No.10429670 >>10429667 your mother deserved better. should've swallowed you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:53:37 2020 No.10429672 >>10429668 Are you also anti-alcohol considering it kills far more people than psychedelics ever have?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:54:41 2020 No.10429673 >>10429150 Then thank god you haven’t had the misfortune of buying Antique Crown

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:54:49 2020 No.10429674 >>10429672 is alcohol illegal? did your parents raise you not to drink alcohol because it's a crime? would your work fire you for drinking alcohol? i see the drugs have made your brain rot

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:54:56 2020 No.10429675 >>10429670 Sorry about your feeble mind, must suck not being able to think for yourself and just doing what everyone tells you to do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:57:16 2020 No.10429677 >>10429674 Ah OK I see in your mind Legal= good&moral Illegal= bad&reprehensible You don't have any values of your own, you just believe whatever mommy and daddy tells you. No use arguing with a retard. Goodbye.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:57:19 2020 No.10429679 >>10429675 yeah it's called not being a criminal. go see a psychologist for your mental issues instead of doing drugs and being a disgrace to humanity

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:58:49 2020 No.10429682

>>10429677
i see you like avoiding the question of why you don't tell your parents about your drug use. why? because of how horribly it would hurt them and how disappointed they would be? yes, that's right, you know exactly what would happen and you know the shame you would feel. disgusting, they deserved better than you

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:59:21 2020 No.10429684 >>10429679 In some countries its legal to stone a woman to death for being raped. Is that an acceptable thing to do because its legal?

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 04:59:45 2020 No.10429685

>>10428942
The print is cute but the construction of this is terrible. Look at the shitty simple lines of this, it doesn’t even look good on the mannequin. The ruffles at the waist are weird and it’s frumpy and there’s zero detail. The bow is hideous and looks cheap. There’s nothing about this that makes it worth what they’re charging

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:00:01 2020 No.10429687 >>10429684 cool false equivalency bro

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:02:14 2020 No.10429689 Oh fuck off all of you. We had a nice thread with discussion about lolita for once, and you all had to ruin it with your stupidity. Other party won’t listen to you, stop wasting everyone’s time and stop responding.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:02:45 2020 No.10429690 File: 220 KB, 1080x1061, Screenshot_20200705_050205.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can we all head over to the cat thread and stop feeding limited worldview-chan?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:04:08 2020 No.10429691 >>10429666 I don’t do drugs, idiot, never have. I just think it’s weird that you care so much that others do.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:05:10 2020 No.10429692 >>10429690 can you stop bringing up drugs at all in lolita threads? thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:05:23 2020 No.10429693 >>10429673 Every time Antique Crown gets brought up I want to cry. I loved the print so much but I had to sell it because I don’t wear garbage bags, even if they’re cute.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:06:29 2020 No.10429694 >>10429689 This is what got the Kamikaze Girls thread nuked before as well. How hard is it not to talk about illegal shit, y'all?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:07:22 2020 No.10429696 Does anyone remember the old lolita forum back in the day, like 10 years ago? I don't think it exists anymore but it was really dope and I used to post there all the time when I was a babylita.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:08:28 2020 No.10429698 >>10429694 I mean. The thing I asked about was lolita related, its an 18+ board and its not my fault if some rando gets triggered any time anybody mentions something illegal.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:08:51 2020 No.10429700

>>10429693
Same. So heart breaking to me because I loved the print so much and I was stupid enough to think it would be like loyal rosette. It’s shocking to me that those dresses only came out a few years apart, cost the same, and have such different qualities. They hung next to each other in my closet and it was jarring every time I flipped through my wardrobe and felt the fabrics. RIP that print

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:11:33 2020 No.10429702 >>10429691 i care that it's in my lolita threads. you mentally ill morons can go talk about it on a drug board

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:11:44 2020 No.10429703 >>10428958 Prince in Misty Sky is probably canon t b h, though I do see him as more classic/gothic >>10429582 >>10429679 Vanillabear pls go

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:12:40 2020 No.10429705 >>10429702 Drugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugsdrugs

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:14:06 2020 No.10429708 >>10429702 You seem kinda mentally ill considering you get mad about random people talking about something that you can just scroll past. Go take your meds bud.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:18:24 2020 No.10429713 >>10429702 The funniest thing about this is the drug talk wouldn’t have lasted nearly this long if you hadn’t said anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:19:49 2020 No.10429716 >>10429713 i wasn't the first or only person to say something but o k

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:25:45 2020 No.10429721 >>10429682 Do you only do things if they’re 100% approved by your family? That’s sad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:28:16 2020 No.10429723 >>10429721 i don't do illegal things period. most people don't lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:39:02 2020 No.10429727 >>10429596 And like shitposting on 4chan is any more respectable

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 05:57:37 2020 No.10429733 [DELETED]

>>10429723
Not that anon but you know that medicine and drugs are the same thing and the opioid epidemic is more of a problem than LSD as a lot of forms of it are perscribed by doctors...right? You know that more people overdose on legal drugs sometimes told to do by a doctor themselves...

LSD was even introduced by the government and slipped into the public to test it out for mind control and now illegal though research has found it may actually be beneficial in small doses...

I don't even take drugs aside from pain killers.
https://www.drugabuse.gov/drug-topics/opioids/opioid-overdose-crisis

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 06:05:19 2020 No.10429735

>>10429696
Don’t know which forum you’re talking about specifically, but I miss forums in general. Looking for specific information is jarring enough on chans, and borders on impossible on facebook and tumblr. My country had a really fun forum, I’m a lonelita so it was my biggest connection to the community, shame it closed a few years back.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 06:16:45 2020 No.10429738 >>10429735 Wtf even happened to forums

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 06:23:59 2020 No.10429740 >>10429696 Not really a forum but I wonder what happened to Lacebook

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 07:03:03 2020 No.10429750 >>10429696 You probably mean forums lolitafashion.org

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 07:04:55 2020 No.10429752 >>10429696 Do you mean http://forums.lolitafashion.org/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 07:13:19 2020 No.10429755 >>10429752 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 07:31:57 2020 No.10429757 >>10429740 Basically collapsed because they tried keeping it "exclusive" for too long and by the time it opened up nobody cared

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:13:57 2020 No.10429767

>>10429685

If it was cotton it would still be simple but have far better structure.

If it was chiffon it would look nicer despite still likely being a synthetic fabric and have a cute floofy look. I think chiffon would have been the best choice for this dress and maybe mixing in some smaller heart or Angelic Pretty Detailing in the blue space of the dress or inside some of the hearts themselves here and there.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:21:10 2020 No.10429770 >>10429735 I miss forums too. I think a lot of people do. If someone actually made a new lolita forum, lots of people would join.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:24:34 2020 No.10429771

>>10429770
I don't think a forum has the potential to get off the ground in this day and age, sadly, but I wonder if a lolita/general j-fashion social media site like facebook or instagram could? Basically Lacebook but competently run this time. Or has Amino taken away too much of the potential userbase for this to work?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:29:06 2020 No.10429773 >>10429771 There would be no incentive for people to move away from FB/Insta if the format is just more of the same. Forums have a well-categorized, easily searchable style which is what made them appealing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:29:59 2020 No.10429774 >>10429771 >Or has Amino taken away too much of the potential userbase for this to work? Nobody long enough in the community will use Amino, that app is overrun by people age 11-16.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:30:46 2020 No.10429775 >>10429770 It’s a shame Alice Holic isn’t more interactive, it has more activity than I would have expected

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:38:11 2020 No.10429779

>>10429773
Well I think the attraction (for me, at least) would be that it is the same as Facebook or Instagram but without the normies. I do think both of those platforms are pretty shit from a community standpoint, but it's not like this site would need to be an exact clone. You could add a blog/moderated user-submitted articles section for example.

I like the idea of a forum too, it's just that I see people here saying they miss forums all the time, swearing up and down that a forum would be super active if someone made it. And then someone does make a forum and lo and behold, nobody uses it. Every single time (mind you I haven't seen anyone try in years, maybe we can capitalise on nostalgia). Whereas people got genuinely excited about Lacebook, it's just that the execution was poorly handled.

>>10429774
Yeah I mean I've never used it myself and it does seem that way, but there are thousands of people on the lolita amino even if they all look like shit.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:38:58 2020 No.10429780

>>10429773
This, I don’t like how social media handle communication and discussions, depending on comment which aren’t searchable. Works for posting coords, not for anything else. A lot of people already have to juggle between their normie and lolita accounts on fb, doubt they would be interested in another one.
>>10429774
I wonder what exactly about amino is so appealing to younger people. Platform in itself is designed rather normally, but somehow it is a sperg magnet.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:40:48 2020 No.10429781

Hey anons! Tea party just concluded, here's a transcription of the Q&A:
>What has been your favorite release from the past few months, and why?
Maki: My favorite release this season is Usagiyorokobu Hananoen series. It was a first time we went on the theme of Japanese traditional sweets [?]. I was moved to see the beautiful result.
Asuka: Bunny College is release periodically, and I like them a lot. I love school design, and I'm making other series for this autumn.
>What is your favorite mascot character among the prints of the brand?
Maki: I like all of them, but I am particularly attached to Lyrical Bunny that I draw most often. It is a character that continues to accompany the path of the brand, and I want her to continue to play an active role.
Asuka: I like Marshmallow Bunny. I don't have the blue shirt with me, but I like the fluffy makeup [?] and in general I like white rabbits.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:41:50 2020 No.10429782

>>10429781
>When creating a new dress, either a print or solid piece, are the designs based on broad concept, or specific elements? About the process of the creation.
Maki: I tend to start on the global concept, especially when it comes to the original print. The design of the clothes are based on the theme of the print. For example, in the Usagiyorokobu Hananoen, traditional Japanese sweet [?] is there seen. The rabbit, which is the motif of the print, gives the image of the headbow. Starting from the concept, we create the whole series in relation to it.
Asuka: I work from the theme too. For example, for Bunny College series, I have one big private school in mind that, um... We often have this school in Japan, with the middle school and high school together. So, [I] imagine[s] the middle school, sailor collar, and for high school, a jacket, and so on. It would be fun one day if we could unite all the uniforms together and make an event with the Bunny College people.
>What did your family and friends think of your passion for lolita fashion, before you became famous?
Maki: My family believed in my personality, so they told me that they find lolita fashion very cute. My friends had also strong personalities, and we often enjoyed lolita fashion together.
Asuka: Nobody was against me for the lolita fashion, I didn't have any special reactions from it, but at school there was nobody who shared my taste or sense, and I was kind of apart, but, no critics. Lolitas, be confident!

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:42:51 2020 No.10429783

>>10429782
>Please tell a story about an obstacle you had in your work, and how you were able to overcome it.
Maki: Sometimes, I don't feel inspired in any way. In that case, I look at art books and my favorite painters, listen to music, read some novels, imagining scenes from the world enriches my capacity to imaginate.
Asuka: This concerns the design part, but in my case, when I'm working on the design, and I lose my direction, I leave it to rest once, and I do something else, don't think about it at all, and sometimes later it happens that all of a sudden I find a solution.
>How did you spend your time during the lockdown?
Maki: In Japan, the restriction to go out was not as strict as in other countries, so I continued working as usual and designing, but I did work from home as well, and at home I was sewing all day the novelties of the masks that we gave you, the ribbons [?] it was [I] that was sewing.
Asuka doesn't answer, went into goodbyes and the game.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 08:44:30 2020 No.10429785 >>10429774 I think most active people in the Lolita Fashion amino are adults though. >>10429775 It began quite well, but Alice Holic had so many bugs. Many people just stopped posting because the app is shit.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 09:04:26 2020 No.10429791

Hypothetically, how would people feel about a MyAnimeList-style lolita website? It would be such a massive project that I'm not sure if it could ever really get off the ground, but a site with that sort of functionality solely focused on lolita might be cool. You could have your forum, industry news, lolita general interest articles, a wardrobe cataloguing function (with the option to make private if desired), maybe a videos section. I think that would be fun.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 09:57:09 2020 No.10429813 >>10429780 >I wonder what exactly about amino is so appealing to younger people. Platform in itself is designed rather normally, but somehow it is a sperg magnet. Maybe because the ad for the app shows only weeby groups.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 11:23:51 2020 No.10429854

>>10428951

I'm just saying, the previous comment asking why lolitas are too lazy to iron just sounds like boomers talking about walking uphill. That's why it doesn't sit right with me.

As for polyester's aesthetics, Innocent World, Moitie, Emikyu, Jane Marple, Leur Getter have all been using polyester for literal years, way before AP finally got in on it. It's not anyone was complaining their dresses looked bad.

I mean, buy what you like, I just think the problem is mainly your personal bias.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 11:31:25 2020 No.10429860 >>10429854 >Emikyu Cringe

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 11:33:31 2020 No.10429863 >>10429783 Thanks for posting these, anon. May you always find your dream dresses.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 11:36:42 2020 No.10429867

>>10429781
>Asuka: I like Marshmallow Bunny. I don't have the blue shirt with me, but I like the fluffy makeup [?]
She said she likes the thick fur collar on the bunny rabbits

>>10429783
Maki said she ended up drawing a bunch of new designs and Asuka said she was sewing a bunch of masks

Thank you anon for getting all of this down, very well done!

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 12:33:09 2020 No.10429924

>>10429854

I had typed an even longer in depth response but the page randomly refreshed on me and I gave up...basically I consider myself lazy but don't find caring for cotton hard (nothing wrong with being lazy either), and my problem with poly is AP poly in particular if I didn't make that clear in my posts. The fact that other brands can do it just fine for the most part is more damning for AP. If their poly didn't feel weird on my skin and looked less shiny (Maxicimam has poly solids that feel nice and look nice despite being a smaller brand with potentially less resources) then I would gladly buy poly dresses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 12:51:56 2020 No.10429937 >>10429924 how is BtSSB's poly?

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:39:25 2020 No.10430024

>>10429937

I've only had one BTSSB dress that was either poly or another synthetic or blend (was a tartan piece) and it was decent and felt nicer than AP's viyella but not as nice as cotton to me. It was probably thinner than the AP poly I've owned though so arguably on that front despite the texture being less shiny it was a lot cheaper feeling than AP stuff and obviously a bit less comfortable to touch fot me than the same or similar cuts of dresses is cotton.

Most of what I buy of BTSSB tends to be cotton since I wear mostly prints though so I'm no expert.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:41:03 2020 No.10430025 >>10430024 I think I explained it poorly but the thinness made the fabric seem cheaper than AP which is thicker poly but the BTSSB poly had less of the shiny look VISUALLY that most people dislike about AP polyester. Hope that clarifies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 15:58:54 2020 No.10430041 >>10430025 My experience with Baby’s poly is the same

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:20:14 2020 No.10430053 >>10429937 I have a btssb poly skirt and the print is cute but the material is shit. It’s so shiny and staticky, like one step up from the stuff they use to make the princess Halloween costumes at Party City.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:37:44 2020 No.10430062 >>10430041 >>10430053 Huh, it makes me wonder if all the brands have shitty poly or if it's only AP and Btssb. How are the gothic brands? Moitie hasn't done anything in cotton for a while I think, same with Boz and AtePie.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:43:47 2020 No.10430066

>>10429863
My pleasure!
>>10429867
Omg anon thank you so much for the corrections!! I listened over both parts like 6 times and couldn't figure out what was said or find Asuka's answer. Was going crazy lmao. I think my recording was corrupted, none of the video was visible and the audio tapered off a little while into the scavenger hunt with some skips. Not sure what happened, I'll see if I can sort it out at some point.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 16:53:31 2020 No.10430075 >>10430062 I don't own anything from gothic brands (yet...) but they seem to use a thicker more matte polyester.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:16:33 2020 No.10430085

>>10430062
It depends. I can only speak for moitie and for my one bpn op. If the piece is structured and solid, the polyester is going to be super thick. If it's something like the batskirt, i'd say it's in the inbetween stages since i guess it's designed to be more flowy. Then the chiffon pieces like silent moon or harpsichord trio, I suspect it's probably no better then the poly sweet brands put out nowadays. I've never touched an ap or a baby dress (that's not made from cotton), so that's just my assumption from the descriptions from sweet lolitas.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:19:40 2020 No.10430086 If you could will into existence any website or app for lolita what would it be? Is there anything that would really be useful?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:22:03 2020 No.10430087 >>10430086 To start with, maybe some kind of closet/wishlist app with some kind of messaging option. I could also imagine it becoming annoying for some people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:38:42 2020 No.10430089 >>10430066 Anon do you have any other deets from the Tea Party? What were the raffles? Did they unveil any new releases?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:40:23 2020 No.10430090 >>10429791 This is cool and I would love to work on a project like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:41:29 2020 No.10430091 >>10430086 community page that allows posting multiple pics, easy post archive, tags, search function. basically lj comm, but stanalone + allows posting using existing sm accounts

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:42:24 2020 No.10430092 >>10430087 I feel like if you improved on the lolibrary wish list feature this could be really cool. I think the big hurdle would be filling out a database with past releases.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:47:30 2020 No.10430095 >>10430092 nayrt but maybe allowing users to import their own information/stock images? that way people could upload the stock pics already on lolibrary

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:48:05 2020 No.10430096

>>10430086
A similar webstyle to facebook, where you can have an image gallery (and make folders), post multi media (text, images, videos), a blog feature, interest groups you can join (specific brands, styles, hobbies, etc), a buy/sell/ area complete with a feedback system, wishlist/closet portion with a database like lolibrary but also allows you to upload personal photos of what you have so it shows on the item page-

AND where you have to have ID verification to try to keep it a bit more safe.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:51:03 2020 No.10430097 [DELETED]

>>10430089
Yes! The raffles were £30, £50, £90 (I think), and £150 coupouns. Quite a lot of winners.
As far as new releases, they went in depth with Rose Tea Garden - teal was not a mentioned colorway, just navy, green, pink, and black. I wonder what happened to it, it was my favorite :(
They showed Maki and Asuka in various coords with the colorways.
They also went over the other Autumn releases, including the sax x pink dress a lot of people were interested in. No other colorways for it were shown, though. Was Dolly Heart, Fantastic World Map, and the sax x pink dress iirc.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:53:17 2020 No.10430099

>>10430089
Yes! The raffles were £30, £50, £90 (I think), and £150 coupouns. Quite a lot of winners.
As far as new releases, they went in depth with Rose Tea Garden - teal was not a mentioned colorway, just navy, green, pink, and black. I wonder what happened to it, it was my favorite :(
They showed Maki and Asuka in various coords with the colorways.
They also went over the other Autumn releases, including the sax x pink dress a lot of people were interested in. No other colorways for it were shown, though. Was Dolly Heart, Fantastic World Map, and the sax x pink dress iirc.
The game was a cute scavenger hunt, they gave us lolita-related items and motifs like headbows, petticoats, and Lyrical Bunny to find within our house and show.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:55:15 2020 No.10430100 >>10430086 agreeing with other anons having a like "my figure collection" site would be great.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 17:56:00 2020 No.10430101 File: 21 KB, 536x536, 1da20db8a0718085e43addd5fb7d6bd7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10430096 this is perfect and everything i want

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:03:41 2020 No.10430113 >>10430099 Were did you get they would release teal?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:09:14 2020 No.10430119 File: 105 KB, 1080x1080, FB_IMG_1593986831853.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10430113 There was teal in the fashion show, though I'm thinking now maybe it was just the lighting? It still looks rather distinctly teal and not green to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:10:28 2020 No.10430121 File: 48 KB, 720x960, FB_IMG_1593986898930.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10430113 >>10430119 Vs green

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:14:58 2020 No.10430127 >>10428958 I could see Guy Fieri wearing that if he was a lolita.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:16:22 2020 No.10430130 >>10430096 >AND where you have to have ID verification to try to keep it a bit more safe. No thanks.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:23:29 2020 No.10430139 >>10430086 Bebo but make it lolita

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:25:17 2020 No.10430142 >>10430119 Is that Rinrin? Nice to see she’s still modeling

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:25:41 2020 No.10430143

>>10430096
>AND where you have to have ID verification to try to keep it a bit more safe.
No, what the actual fuck. Why would I ever give out my address and driver’s license number to someone I don’t know? DL numbers are considered highly sensitive information, and not wanting to give out your address seems obvious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:27:41 2020 No.10430148 >>10430143 for sales, obviously.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:27:44 2020 No.10430149 >>10430099 Did they say when Rose Tea Garden is going to be released? I keep expecting it every week, and every week it’s not there

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:29:12 2020 No.10430152 >>10430148 That doesn’t answer why I’d ever want to send in a scan of my ID. People can do a lot of damage with the info on your driver’s license.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:32:11 2020 No.10430158 >>10430152 you know you can blur out everything but your face and name, right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:33:25 2020 No.10430163 >>10430148 Most sales platforms lolitas use get by fine without ID verification, including it will guarantee a new site won’t take off

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:34:57 2020 No.10430167 >>10430158 Then what the fuck would be the point lmao. You could fake that shit so easily.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:35:44 2020 No.10430169

>>10430143
I didn't say address or DL number? A full legal name and photo would be enough, or whatever other verification seems appropriate.

Too much shit happens with predators, scammers, and fetishists on sites where ID verification isn't required, especially when safety and sales are involved.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:37:19 2020 No.10430170 >>10430099 I wish Fantastic World Map was gonna be released in a pastel colorway, like pink or lavender. I’m still really excited though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:37:36 2020 No.10430171 >>10430169 People already get some info about you if you use PayPal anyway (if you are in the US unless your PayPal is incredibly old); just make it so PayPal is the only way to pay and that'll guarantee some safety.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:39:09 2020 No.10430175 >>10430169 I mean look you or whoever makes a new website can require whatever you want, but ID verification will make sure that it never gets off the ground. It might last for a little while but it will die.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 18:45:44 2020 No.10430188

>>10430086
A profile linked to your lace market account were you could have your wardrobe, wishlist and blog posting all separated from each other.
Multiple discussion platforms as the groups on Facebook but chat or forum format (begginer help, daily coords, handmade, challenges, makeup, general etc)
Invitation needed to join, this way we wouldn’t have to display any sensitive information, but the mods could have a control of who is coming in without having too much trouble with it and if someone is inviting problematic people they could just be banned.
I would also love if there were a tag system fo help looking for specific itens through the coordinates like an specific dress you don’t know how to coord or something like this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:03:07 2020 No.10430200 >>10429285 If you hang laundry right after a wash and smooth out wrinkles and crumpled lace with your hands it gets rid of 90% of wrinkles without needing a damaging tumble-dry.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:22:08 2020 No.10430219 >>10430200 I do this too. You should never stick lolita garments in the dryer, Japanese clothing isn't built for that since most Japanese homes don't have one.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:26:40 2020 No.10430225

>>10430219

In America at least many dryers have low heat (still pretty hot on some models but less on others) and no heat options. But the tumbling itself is also part of the problem since it tangles up the dress a bit. Top loading washers with center agitator things also cause dresses and things to get twisted around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 19:31:26 2020 No.10430228 >>10430219 that's not true at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:13:38 2020 No.10430267 File: 669 KB, 828x1068, 9C0D8A3C-20F6-4F4D-9372-EAE3DFE32E94.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will we ever have an online community devoid of people like this?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:17:10 2020 No.10430272 >>10430267 I dont understand. Devoid of disabled people or just devoid of people who have to make a show of it?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:23:42 2020 No.10430283 >>10430267 I have my fair share of health conditions, some life-threatening, but I don't get why you would feel the need to list them off like a shopping list. Is it some kinda need for validation?

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:27:03 2020 No.10430289

>>10430267
This is gross. I have a lot of health conditions I keep private. I don't understand either why people put them on display. Just because someone else has my same condition doesn't mean I want to randomly bond with them about lolita. I don't want my conditions to be my identity.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:29:48 2020 No.10430292 >>10429937 It varies so much. I like the fancier poly chiffons they do but not the sheer gingham, that one is too shiny. I also really like the crepey poly AATP uses occasionally. Most of their dresses are cotton though

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:30:26 2020 No.10430294 >>10430289 >I don't want my conditions to be my identity. this. like, I spend enough time with my own pain and vomit, why would I want that to be a casual topic of discussion at any point in time where I could be thinking about literally anything else

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:31:54 2020 No.10430295 >>10430096 No ID what the fuck! That's what PayPal and feedback is for

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:36:47 2020 No.10430301 >>10429937 The only poly I have from BABY is the glittery sparkle georgette and I really like it. I do prefer their cotton though, it’s so nice and thick which makes it seem really luxurious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 20:46:40 2020 No.10430318 >>10430301 That and I feel like it could survive a bomb going off. It's like the OG Game Boy of dress fabric.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:10:24 2020 No.10430344 >>10430130 >>10430163 >>10430175 >>10430295 Found the sissies and ageplayers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:13:01 2020 No.10430349 >>10430344 this, we already have kink invading LM. ID with everything but your name and pic blurred is perfectly fine.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:25:39 2020 No.10430363 >>10430062 I've got a few Atelier Pierrot poly solids. They've got a nice weight to them so they drape well and only a slight sheen. Not sure about their prints though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:32:55 2020 No.10430366 >>10430363 >Not sure about their prints though. Their prints fascinate me. I haven’t seen any in person, but they give off this “graphic design is my passion” feel so my mind subconsciously assumes the worst with the fabric.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 21:48:10 2020 No.10430378

>>10430349
>>10430344
What does ID verification prove? It's not like you get a special seal on your ID if you're a Certified Lolita™. All ID verification does is prevent reentry of unsavory characters. It doesn't stop them from entering the site in the first place.

>>10430289
>>10430294
Fucking this. I always see lolitas baww about mental illnesses on Instagram and post about it every single day. I hate having to fight with my mental illnesses just so I can be a normal human being, why would I want my whole world to revolve around them?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:00:41 2020 No.10430389 >>10430267 well, thats one way to get attention for a mediocre coord

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:01:27 2020 No.10430391 >>10430378 that's exactly what it does... if someone is being creepy it's a complete permaban.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:16:57 2020 No.10430402 Might just be me but did btssb sf link the wrong preorder lottery form? It keeps redirecting me to their previous reservation. Seems weird for them to keep a mistake up for 2 out of the 5 reservation days.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:18:43 2020 No.10430406 >>10429703 >Prince in Misty Sky is probably canon t b h, though I do see him as more classic/gothic yea no, Prince is EGA all the way. Have you even seen the bat dance performance? c'mon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:20:10 2020 No.10430409 >>10430267 you ever notice disability list-chans never have shit like type one diabetes or narcolepsy it's always either allergies or cancer

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:22:27 2020 No.10430412

>>10430344
yup. There is a similar issue on the lgbt board in the lesbian threads - everyone wants to be able to talk on a platform outside of 4chan but of course, no one wants to be identified.
And you know why? cause there are a bunch of men, trans, and sissies lurking who want to chat with women but don't want to get caught being something other than a cis woman.

This shit will never take off around here because everyone comes here to hide their identity.
I'm sure these threads are filled with sissies, trans, and just straight dudes who don't want to get caught. Not to mention all the fucking pick-me's around here too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:23:35 2020 No.10430413 File: 115 KB, 920x960, 1438131083315.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10430409 This chick was well known for having narcolepsy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:24:47 2020 No.10430414 >>10430413 Damn Did she have list in her bio though? That's a key ingredient, otherwise she's just a normal sick person

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:28:10 2020 No.10430417

>>10430414
I don't think she brought it up herself? I just remember it being talked about on cgl a lot. That's the only reason I even know about it.

Anyway. I'm not really trying to comment on your topic. You mentioned narcolepsy and lolita and I thought of her.
However, it should be noted that she constantly acted like a hurt fawn over the disorder and always talks about "having health issues" and all her friends would flock to her anytime someone brought up the "health issue"

It was pretty annoying honestly.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:29:02 2020 No.10430419

>>10430412
Or maybe, just maybe, people don't want to doxx themselves by freely giving out their personal data to random people on the internet just to engage in social media. I wouldn't trust anyone from this community to handle my personal data, and with amount of people screeching at facebook for not respecting their privacy, guess how that would work out.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:30:34 2020 No.10430420

>>10430417
meh, actually having a shitty disorder like that sucks ass and controls your entire life, it's got to be hard not to talk about
I'm not saying it's not annoying when someone bitches all the time, but imagine how much that means it must suck to live like that
I'm not speaking as her though, I have my own thing lmao

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:30:59 2020 No.10430421

>>10430419
>I wouldn't trust anyone from this community to handle my personal data
yea, and that is why I said in my previous post
"This shit will never take off"

I get where you're coming from and I also have irl friends who complain about FB stealing their date, etc but eventually - you have to come to grips with reality these days.
You either get to talk to someone anonymously or you have to give up your identity to meet people.
Meeting strangers requires a strong level of trust that most people no longer have these days.

So yea, if you feel that way, then you shouldn't bother joining.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:32:11 2020 No.10430422 >>10430421 >FB stealing their date dammit, I was so sure I typed "data"

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:34:17 2020 No.10430427

>>10430420
Oh, the only part that was annoying was that she brought it up all the time but was super vague about what it was.
I don't know, maybe she was trying to appease people for Likes since the whole "lolita with medical problems" has always been a topic of discussion in this hobby.

Hell, even I have some medical issues that effect my day to day life but I never talk about it ever unless it's the topic of discussion.

This chick would randomly talk about it and be super vague and then when anyone asked about it, her clique would swoop in to "save" her. It was fucking weird.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:35:10 2020 No.10430431

>>10430378
ID verification could also be done through social media handles as well though?

Ex: Upon sign up, you have to share your facebook/instagram and lacemarket usernames and if you don't have credible ones, you have to scan your ID and you can blur everything but your name, DOB, and photo. Or any other combination of ID verification the creator decides. These would have to be checked and approved. It would be confidential to mods only and would prevent unfavorable people from joining. It would also be easier to ID problematic people who join for gross reasons.

>>10430412
Fair point, makes sense why there is a lot of pushback here. Unfortunately for them, most lolitas DO want a place that is as safe as it could be so if this kind of website ever does exist, hopefully the creator will take into account more security so there is one place that has less tolerance about sharing spaces with people who have gross/ulterior motives.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:38:52 2020 No.10430433

>>10430417
>acted like a hurt fawn over the disorder
I'm a different anon, but I think this is what gets to me the most. I have at least 5 or 6 different conditions and I don't expect random people on social media to make me feel better when I'm battling my health on a bad day. The only people I expect to support me emotionally are my family and very, very close friends.

Also I know I'm just butthurt, but I manage to have a full time job and pay for all my lolita, even with what I deal with. So seeing some of these lolita leech off of attention or whatever online grosses me out. My life isn't easy but I do the best I can to lead a normal, independent life. On some level, I'm jealous of the coddling though. I've never asked for anything special just because I spun the genetic wheel and lost.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:40:28 2020 No.10430437

>>10430431
Yeah, I definitely want that kind of security when I join any lolita group. Like, I need to know that the other people I'm talking to are actually lolitas and not just some random dude or some girl who wishes she had a wardrobe and wears skirts on top of each other to mimic the silhouette.

It's fun to come to cgl and shoot the shit but I always keep in mind that whoever I'm replying to on here might not be a lolita at all or if they are, they might be really new, or they might be a lolita who's here to just shit on others.
Those are the kind of people who aren't going to want to be found out. That makes sense but I'd rather have a space where I can talk to someone who I know is legit.

If someone is too scared to give out their ID, well that's too bad.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:43:05 2020 No.10430441

>>10430412
I honestly don't think it's that deep. I don't deny that there are some men and trans trolling in these threads, but the majority just sound like two-faced women who don't want to admit that they talk shit on here and reveal that they're fat newfag larpers.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:44:07 2020 No.10430444

>>10430427
>vagueposting
Alright, cardinal sickie sin
The other shit, desu, I want to brush off because, same, I understand being sick, so I wanna give whoever it is benefit of the doubt, but vagueposting for asspats immediately puts you in mom-with-fibromialgia territory
Since we're talking about it though, my medical shit has come up before during a meet up, like unavoidably, couldn't hide it without dying lol, and everyone was way nicer about it than normies are
I'm grossed out that I get sympathy now for the first time in my life, despite struggling forever, because attention vampires on Facebook discovered a way to get pity with no argument
And yet, it does feel nice to actually like, not be told to go to the bathroom to treat myself, so I dunno, real fuckin monkey's paw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:47:38 2020 No.10430447 >>10430444 >attention vampires yoink

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:48:12 2020 No.10430450

>>10430437
I get where you’re coming from I really do, but a site that requires ID verification will die in a couple years if not less. Not enough people will join and it’ll end up being the same ten people talking to each other until one day everyone stops posting. Knock yourself out but you’re wasting your time. Even Paypal, which legally requires for you to use your real name, doesn’t request your ID for verification unless you fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:49:20 2020 No.10430456 >>10430441 >wo-faced women who don't want to admit that they talk shit on here and reveal that they're fat newfag larpers. That is a for sure thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:50:56 2020 No.10430457 >>10430450 But we already discussed work arounds? The only reason to get someone's ID is if they have bad credentials. If you have bad credentials and you can't produce ID? Then too bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:52:43 2020 No.10430459 >>10430457 Ayrt, yeah I just went back and read some other posts. That seems fair to me, I was mostly concerned that ID scans would be the only way to get in when an Instagram can usually prove identity.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:52:43 2020 No.10430460

>>10430456
Preaching to the choir, I know, but this is why vetting is a good thing. You shouldn't need to be World's Best Lolita to get into servers or forums, but you should at least know how to dress yourself reasonably well. Otherwise people aren't even talking about the same thing, it's like people who've never owned a horse chatting on horse forums about what to do if your horse breaks its fuckin leg.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 22:57:11 2020 No.10430463 >>10430459 Exactly, I'm all for using other types of ID. The /lgbt/ board can't even get passed that though. Everyone there is a scared little bitch. At least /cgl/ has some brave folks. Otherwise we wouldn't have a decent discord.

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:13:01 2020 No.10430470

>>10430409
K8 had diabetes iirc and yeah mk has narcolepsy >>10430413

It's the fat chicks talking about POTs and other exotic meme shit that I'm sceptical of, but there's definitely efame whores milking their fairly manageable conditions and using it as an excuse to be ana or not get therapy for a PD

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:13:15 2020 No.10430471

>>10430086
This is gonna sound totally ridiculous but something like Gaia Online lite, without all the "game" parts like the shops, gold, and, well, games.
The forums would of course be mostly lolita-related but there could be other subcategories for off-topic/general discussions.
The marketplace would obviously be for real-life dresses and accessories. It'd basically be what LM already is.
Everybody has profiles they can deck out and journals they can post blog entries to. Gaia didn't have this, but a stream of the most recent blog entries on the home page or something would be cool. Of course, another IG-like stream of recently uploaded coord pics alongside this would be a necessary feature.
AND ABOVE EVERYTHING
avatars you could plan coordinates with or dress up for fun, with an up-to-date database of Lolita items. No shops or buying digital items or anything, basically just what TekTek was. You could add items to your "closet" to plan exclusively with stuff you already own, but still have access to everything to play around with as you wish.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:15:09 2020 No.10430474 >>10430471 16-year-old me is drooling over this. And possibly the current me too.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:15:25 2020 No.10430475 >>10430413 I thought she got rediagnosed with some other obscure sleep disorder and not narcolepsy

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:19:28 2020 No.10430479 >>10430475 I wouldn't know? I'm just saying what I saw posted about her online via SM.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:22:25 2020 No.10430483 >>10430471 I like all of this but the avatar thing. I never want to do stuff like that because I'd rather dress up in reality and I hate how most avatars look. It's also so cheesy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:28:05 2020 No.10430488 >>10430474 Honestly, typing that out made me remember how much I loved certain features of GO. It's a shame greed killed it. >>10430483 Fair enough! I can see how it'd be cheesy but I'm such a sucker for doll makers lol

Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:37:22 2020 No.10430494
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>>10430488
Oh I actually miss doll makers but I always made my own and they didn't look as good.

Seems like a lot of people are just nostalgic for early 2000s internet era. I'm right there with y'all. pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:48:17 2020 No.10430505 >>10430488 I like doll makers too but a lot of them will die at the end of the year when Flash dies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:54:11 2020 No.10430508 >>10430505 >when flash dies You don't need to use flash - most of the ones back in the day used fucking Java.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 5 23:56:17 2020 No.10430511 >>10430471 This sounds fun. >>10430494 >Seems like a lot of people are just nostalgic for early 2000s internet era. Always. The internet was way more fun before it became a hypermoderated neural-net-marketed hellscape.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:05:17 2020 No.10430517 File: 161 KB, 720x480, vlcsnap-2020-06-17-07h38m32s183.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10430511 >The internet was way more fun before it became a hypermoderated neural-net-marketed hellscape ugh too real.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:11:03 2020 No.10430525

>>10429937
I have the Doll's Hospital print and it's a nice weighted poly that isn't thin and shiny like AP's poly.
AP's poly is really hit or miss, but more miss for me these days. You can really tell the drop in quality in even poly releases after comparing the releases in 2016 VS 2020.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:20:44 2020 No.10430536 >>10430086 Something that combines lolibrary and lookbook. I guess an english version of wear.jp? I want a coordinate archive organized by item.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 00:55:57 2020 No.10430574 >>10430536 God whatever happened to Lookbook? I feel like it used to be really popular but don't think anybody really uses it anymore?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 01:51:07 2020 No.10430603 secrets

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:11:06 2020 No.10430618 >>10428738 Yes, many old JetJ pieces and a few VM are silk.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 02:37:43 2020 No.10430637 >>10430603 Living for the replica one. What a dumb bitch. “Upon closer inspection I realize there was no brand tag.” How do you miss this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 03:05:23 2020 No.10430653 >>10428738 I have some really nice silk-cotton blend JM pieces.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 03:30:03 2020 No.10430661 Non-California burgers, I’m so fucking jealous that you don’t have to pay sales tax on AP and BABY orders from the US stores. It’s a real killer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 03:45:36 2020 No.10430666 >>10430471 I miss GO but I can also see this turning into a lolita-at-heart roleplay hellscape. Maybe combine it with Poupeegirl where you had to upload photos of actual real life clothes you owned?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 04:43:10 2020 No.10430718 I hate that a good coord but bad pic gets less likes than a good pic of a bad coord

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 04:44:57 2020 No.10430719 >>10430718 Boohoo cry more about your self post not being recieved well

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 04:47:53 2020 No.10430723 >>10430719 not them but I think you're talking about something that happened in a different thread. Unless you're trying to imply that's the same anon...

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 04:48:39 2020 No.10430725 >>10430267 So many self-diagnosed autists in the comments

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 04:52:38 2020 No.10430728 >>10430723 Didn't you know every anon is the same anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 05:00:48 2020 No.10430737 There were a lot of complaints about AP's bags and shoes recently, and I was wondering if anyone had tried using leather conditioner? Apparently it works on faux leather as well. I'm going to try it on my own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 05:14:47 2020 No.10430743 >>10428738 >>10430618 I own a couple old JetJ dresses that have silk lining, they are all velveteen though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 05:31:12 2020 No.10430758 >>10430725 Not too different from here then.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:55:30 2020 No.10430830

Weird thought, but does anyone think that the over the years itas and good lolitas are becoming increasingly segregated by platform (obviously there's overlap on fb and insta, but reddit and amino, for example, have communities of around 20k apiece and seem to be 90%+ ita), and that this is a bad thing? The last time lolitas can be said to have had a cohesive international "community" was really the LJ days. And frankly, the majority of people on egl were ita. Even the most active members, you'd see their coords every once in a while and they almost always looked... bad. But it was still a fun place to be and discussions were often decent. I sort of think we might need to accept the itas along with everyone else if we ever want to have a real community again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 06:59:45 2020 No.10430831 >>10430830 And samefag because I know someone is going to say it - I'm not saying we need to accept sissies, that's a whole different story.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:03:15 2020 No.10430835

>>10430830
i disagree with you because those reddit communities filled with "20k" of itas are also 90% trend hoppers who stop posting after a few months. plus if people in that group stop being itas they move on to better groups, those trend hoppers are really all the people who would be segregated.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:09:46 2020 No.10430836

Why are there so many newfags who don't get that wearing a dress once doesn't make someone in the fashion? Also that being A lolita isn't the same thing as the outfit being a lolita outfit. Being in the fashion means specific things.

>actually knows what the fashion is
There is a big difference between knowing what lolita is and knowing it from anime or harajookoo
>has a wardrobe or is in the process of getting one
Owning one outfit doesn't necessarily make someone a lolita, but that doesn't mean the OUTFIT isn't lolita
>wears the clothes at least once a year
Owning clothes without wearing any of them is weird.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:12:05 2020 No.10430838 >>10430836 >at least once a year Is the bar really that low already?

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:17:46 2020 No.10430839

>>10430830
>the majority of people on egl were ita.
wasn't it super different back then, as in, it wasn't easy to just buy a full coord back then as it is now?

Your post is full of weird subjective stuff, so I can't even comment really because I have no idea what you think ita IS. Only that you're not afraid to just call a bunch of people ita.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:18:30 2020 No.10430840

>>10430835
I get where you're coming from, but I guess my point is that a lot of people on egl were just trend-hoppers who stopped posting after a few months as well. But it didn't matter because it was "the place to be" as a lolita and discussion carried on regardless. Online communities that are excessively gatekept (obviously there needs to be some level of gatekeeping for security purposes) tend to have pretty stagnant and boring discussion. And I don't know, for me seeing some perma-ita constantly coming out with dumbass takes is part of the fun of online communities, as long as there are enough people to shut them down so they don't get taken seriously. It's no fun when everyone knows what they're doing.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:20:15 2020 No.10430842

>>10430836
>There is a big difference between knowing what lolita is and knowing it from anime or harajookoo
there's a lot of grey area here. There are a ton of girls in my comm that don't know where to buy lolita outside of LM. Some of them don't even know the history of the fashion but they still manage to have a full wardrobe.

The other stuff I agree with however. Owning a bunch of clothes and not wearing them is pretty out there and also pretty rare from what I've seen.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:20:23 2020 No.10430843 >>10430840 >a lot of people on egl were just trend-hoppers who stopped posting after a few months as well. Yes and it sucked. >>10430838 Tbh I was trying to say it in a way that people couldn't complain about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:22:01 2020 No.10430844 >>10430842 it's more of a "you must do one of x things to qualify" type thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:22:07 2020 No.10430845 >>10430843 >Tbh I was trying to say it in a way that people couldn't complain about. that's really not possible on this site.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:23:46 2020 No.10430848 >>10430844 Yeah and I was just disagreeing with that one sentiment.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:26:49 2020 No.10430851

>>10430839
Honestly, it was not that much harder in 2007 to get brand than it is now. It was a little more inconvenient, but the difficulty is vastly exaggerated. I was able to do it as a broke teen with sporadic access to only pre-paid credit cards. Most of the egl regulars who I had in mind when making my post mainly wore brand, but they wore it terribly. I'll give celticfreefall as an example. Great poster, great contributor, plenty of brand. Looked bad 90% of the time in my subjective opinion (though I've just checked her insta and her recent stuff seems fine).

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:47:24 2020 No.10430860

>>10430851
>mainly wore brand, but they wore it terribly
Can you please post what you think is "wearing it terribly"?
The user name you gave links to an empty Livejournal cause that site is pretty much dead and converted to Russian but like, this is an image board where you can post images instead of just calling something ita and expecting everyone know what you're talking about?

Like sure, I know what ita is for me, but it might be different for you.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:51:08 2020 No.10430862

>>10430860
It's hard to give an example because like you said, LJ is mostly deleted posts at this point and I wasn't exactly saving these outfits for inspiration. But if you want to know what I mean, just look at Wonderfinch's instagram I guess, she still looks about the same as she did back then (and she gets shat on for it now but tons of people looked just like her back then). Here's a picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:52:10 2020 No.10430863 File: 96 KB, 500x500, wonderfinch.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10430862 And I dropped my picture of course

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:52:10 2020 No.10430864 >>10430862 >Here's a picture stop pulling my leg god dammit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 07:58:16 2020 No.10430869 >>10430863 OH. Yea that's pretty bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:39:42 2020 No.10430882 >>10430863 People miss the LiveJournal days when this is what western lolitas looked like...?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:44:34 2020 No.10430887 >>10430882 To be fair, WF was notorious as a brand ita even back then. It’s mostly nostalgia, though.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:46:41 2020 No.10430888
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Can someone help me understand this?
I'm Asian so I'm starting to get annoyed by the BLM movement now effecting Asians within the lolita community. I'm seeing a lot of "there needs to be more than just Asians in lolita" lately.
But it's a fucking Japanese fashion? One that's been infiltrated by Chinese. But I guess Asians need to get the fuck out and we're now on par with white people some how??

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:52:03 2020 No.10430890 >>10430888 >But I guess Asians need to get the fuck out and we're now on par with white people some how?? How did you even come to this conclusion... the post was really innocuous.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:52:12 2020 No.10430891 >>10430888 It’s an Asian fashion for fuck’s sake. I don’t care if they want to complain about too many white people but whining about Asian girls wearing an Asian fashion is retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:56:27 2020 No.10430898 >>10430888 From my understanding of it, whites and Asians are seem as "the norm" in the community, so PPC is trying to spread the word of diversifying your feed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 08:59:09 2020 No.10430902 >>10430898 I follow lolitas with good coords. I’m not going to give someone a pity follow because of their race

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:01:06 2020 No.10430904 >>10430737 Pls update us on his that goes iim curious

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:02:10 2020 No.10430905 >>10430902 This

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:10:43 2020 No.10430912
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>>10430890
>the post was really innocuous
Did you see the post and what it's for?
The point behind it is to ask yourself who you're following, to make sure you're following more than just whitey - and apparently asians.

>>10430891
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm Asian so I don't like being lumped in with white people.

>>10430898
Right, but why are asians not diverse anymore?

>>10430902
Same, which is why I follow a lot of black lolitas - they have good coords.
But so do asians and white people. I'm all for the BLM movement but I don't see why it has to effect the lolita community like this. There's absolutely nothing wrong with following asians wearing an asian fashion.

Sorry everyone. I'm asian so I'm kind of pissed that this is the turn we're taking on SM these days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:11:29 2020 No.10430915 >>10430344 Okay Zuck.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:15:33 2020 No.10430917

>>10430915
This was already discussed up thread and there are work arounds.
I'm so tired of the "Zuck" meme. The fact that you're even on the internet means someone took your info, stupid. Let me guess, you're behind ten hundred proxies and you have a really good ad blocker.

shut up.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:29:17 2020 No.10430925
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>>10430860
>>10430839
Just as another example of what I meant because in all fairness, WF is probably an extreme case, here is a random photo I grabbed from a Great Lakes comm meetup from like 2009 (I'm from Europe, this comm is just one that stuck out in my mind so I went searching). In this photo alone, I can spot three of the most active members of the egl LJ comm. No hate to any of these people, I have no idea what they dress like now, but the standard was lower back then across the board and it was very little to do with brand.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:50:45 2020 No.10430935 >>10430925 >the standard was lower back then across the board Yeah, that's what I was saying.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 09:56:41 2020 No.10430936 >>10430925 To be honest, half the girls in my comm dress embarrassingly bad and I'd prefer not to be seen with them in public even if they're perfectly fine as people. I don't think the standards have gotten much higher.

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:09:58 2020 No.10430939

>>10430888
I’m black and this rubbed me the wrong way.

I don’t want to be followed because I’m black, I want to be followed because my coords are good. And if I find someone who has good coords, I’ll follow them. I don’t follow people out of pity and I would hope that I am treated the same way.

We just wanna be treated like everyone else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:14:18 2020 No.10430942 >>10430939 >We just wanna be treated like everyone else. Right? why is this so hard for people.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:17:13 2020 No.10430943 >>10430936 >half the girls in my comm dress embarrassingly bad and I'd prefer not to be seen with them in public did you go to meets with them though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:26:37 2020 No.10430949 >>10430943 Yes, otherwise I wouldn't even know since most of them don't post themselves online either. I guess part of it is also the fact that this part of the comm tends to act loud and hyperactive, reflecting badly on us at whatever venue we're at.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:30:09 2020 No.10430951 >>10430949 My comm is the same way but what I wouldn’t give to have tea with them right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:35:17 2020 No.10430956 >>10430949 Gee, I wonder why they don't post themselves online.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:44:43 2020 No.10430959 >>10430956 Okay? No one cares whether they do or don't post online

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 10:47:42 2020 No.10430963 >>10430959 Holy shit you're dense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:39:18 2020 No.10431010 >>10430925 PNW was the best comm and Lauran was a goddess we miss you bby. Those coords are still kinda okay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 6 11:47:16 2020 No.10431016 Next thread >>10431015

Anonymous Mon Jul 6 14:10:56 2020 No.10431136

>>10430888
This whole post cringed me so hard.
I follow a lot of white thin women because most of my subscriptions are my irl friends plus a few people I don't know who I follow for inspo. Who am I supposed to follow? I've never seen a black lolita in person, I am sure our whole country does not have any. I don't need a bunch of strangers in my feed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 7 20:33:19 2020 No.10432343 >>10431010 Holy shit is that Laura in the back?? Is anyone in that photo still in the comm?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 15 14:26:18 2020 No.10438502 >>10430413 Western lolitas always look so creepy to me. I dont know why

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