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10404784 No.10404784[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

the uniqlo and daiso in SF got looted and both locations were near AP, anyone know if AP got looted or more likely trashed

>> No.10404794 [DELETED] 

Considering it's men doing most (all?) or the looting, that's unlikely.

>> No.10404795
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>> No.10404796 [DELETED] 

Considering it's men doing most (all?) of the looting, that's unlikely.

>> No.10404797

>>10404784
Contrary to what whiny poorfags believe, Japanese burando is not complicit in systems of oppression, while Target donates to local PDs

>> No.10404799

>>10404797
not only does sf pd have nothing to do with the killing, sf's black mayor and black police chief themselves have told people to stop this shit.

>> No.10404800

>>10404796
>>10404797
I'm not OP, but people aren't exactly following any logic when choosing what to loot and vandalize. Many black-owned businesses were destroyed and looted. The officer shot and killed in Oakland by a drive-by vehicle was black. It's just senseless violence.

That said, if AP USA gets destroyed/looted, I have a feeling it won't come back.

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>>10404784
>daiso
tfw you can loot anything and you choose a dollar store

>> No.10404804

>>10404784
BABY is probably in danger too, unfortunately it’s unlikely the rioting and looting is over. It’ll most likely happen again tomorrow night.

>>10404800
I think so too. BABY and AP already make most of their US sales through Japanese shopping services anyway, and this would be a huge financial hit for both of them. Just because they can eat the costs doesn’t mean they’ll want to continue having storefronts in this shithole of a country after something so horrific. Paris has riots all the time and their stores generally seem to be fine, I’m not sure what’s wrong with Americans.

>> No.10404833

>>10404784
I remember when chinese AP got looted because their release was too limited. I don't feel bad for AP as a company for pulling things that would lead to this shit but feel bad for AP's store workers that day.

>> No.10404856 [DELETED] 

>>10404784
LOL theres going to be a bunch of black wannabe ita's running around now with unmatched coords trying to get in to the tea parties and change it to purple drank. Diversity!

>> No.10404858

>>10404856
Ok racist

>> No.10404859

>>10404856
Imagine being this shit of a person

>> No.10404863

>>10404856
>purple drank
God this is such an early 2000s racist insult. I cant believe people found that peak comedy

>> No.10404872

>>10404795
>haven’t slept in 24 hours because I don’t know whats happening, who is actually looting, what the fuck is on fire right now and if we did a good enough job sealing our crap widows agains the tear gas they were firing off for like 6 hours in front of our place
>come on here to chill
>there’s an idiot wondering if AP got looted
Jesus Christ people.

>> No.10404895

>>10404872
there was a worse anon yesterday who was worried that mail trucks would be set on fire and she wouldn't get her precious dress on time

>> No.10404915
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>>10404895
People are getting the shit kicked out of them and dying and someone’s worried about a piece of fucking fabric??

>what are priorities

>> No.10404924

>>10404895
>>10404915
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found that pathetic. It was disappointing to see so many people defending that woman baby on the last general, but I know it's just because they don't want to be criticized for thinking the same exact thing.

>>10404833
>I don't feel bad for AP as a company for pulling things that would lead to this shit but feel bad for AP's store workers that day.
You do realize that if the store got looted, it would be by normies that don't even know what Angelic Pretty is, not lolitas trying to make a statement about AP's marketing decisions, right?

>> No.10404926 [DELETED] 

>>10404858
>>10404859
>>10404863
the sooner you learn to identify bait and either ignore or report, the sooner cgl will become less riddled with bait.

>> No.10404932

>>10404924
>if
I am literally talking about chinese lolitas looting ap on release date. This happened ages ago.

>> No.10404947

>>10404804
>Paris has riots all the time
No we don't lol

>> No.10404951

>>10404932
Source?

>> No.10404952

>>10404932
When? I only remember an incident where a glass pane shattered and that one wasn't anyone's fault.

>> No.10404955

>>10404800
Agreed, sadly. Frankly I think they're already on the verge of closing even before this

>> No.10404958

>>10404947
Americans assume all civil disobedience is the same

>> No.10404978

>>10404958
You mean Paris police don't start the riots?

>> No.10404979 [DELETED] 

>>10404856
fucking cringe dude

>> No.10404992

>>10404947
Oh yeah, Paris only has peaceful protests, same as Germany. If people go on the streets and start fires, it’s all the fucking same.

>> No.10404994

>>10404802
To be fair, the type of people to loot think the dollar store is ritzy

>> No.10404995
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>>10404804
>BABY and AP already make most of their US sales through Japanese shopping services

which is sad because that jacks up the price and removes the shop staff's ability to directly survey and learn more about what their customer wants. If you ever wonder why a store isn't producing what the fambase wants it's because they've lot that connection to the customer and is just making guesses based on numbers without hearing feedback. Brands don't read your tumblr blog; they recieve e-mails from the staff who talk with the customers on a daily bases and that shapes the direction the company takes.

... In other news this is a picture from the riot last night compared to the store front on other days. AP USA is still taking orders and shipping out from their store.

>> No.10405006

>not taking the opportunity and looting it yourself
The absolute state of normielitas.

>> No.10405026 [DELETED] 

>>10404856
Imagine trying to be this edgy.

>> No.10405040
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>>10404784
Anyway...
LAJapan got hit.

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>>10405040
JapanLA* whoops.

>> No.10405042

>>10405041
japan LA fucking sucks

>> No.10405061

>>10405041
Poor Pusheen

>> No.10405063

>>10405061
That corporate cat had it coming

>> No.10405066
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Who would loot a lolita store, of all places?

>> No.10405068

>>10405066
Do you really think people care who they’re looting right now?

>> No.10405070

>>10404995
Any video links? Thanks for digging around anon

>> No.10405073

>>10404995
Tbf, the reason most Americans don’t like waiting to order from AP USA is their stock is pathetically small.

>> No.10405074

>>10405068
Why wouldn’t they? It’s not like the world is burning, they DON’T NEED to trash and steal the stores. You won’t get the message across if they act like criminals.

>> No.10405076

Looting anything when it's not related to the topic at hand is unjustified. I had to deactivate my social media because all my middle class white friends are trying to act like it's ok as if there can't be multiple injustices. Innocent bystanders are being killed by the looters in some really disturbing Twitter videos. I think they should be stopped but if I say anything, it makes me a racist

>> No.10405078

>>10405074
I don’t understand your argument. My point is people are just looting whatever, they obviously don’t care.

>> No.10405083

>>10405076
Link? I haven't seen anyone killed except for by people protecting their stores

>> No.10405085

>>10405078
Why are they looting in the first place? There’s no good reason to just loot anything, other than just taking advantage of the angry mob to steal without consequences. If they choose what they looted from and picked specific stores they could at least say it has a point, while it would still be stealing.

>> No.10405087

>>10405085
> There’s no good reason to just loot anything, other than just taking advantage of the angry mob to steal without consequences.

This is exactly why.

>> No.10405093

>>10404859
>>10404979
>>10405026
Samefag

>> No.10405094

>>10405070
This is the video I took the screen cap from, he walks around the area several times tending to stay behind the looters; https://youtu.be/G4mhcLAuhPU

Fashionphile and Acene Studios got hit, both of which I think might not come back. Fashionphile is a luxary re-sell website that was testing the idea of having physical locations for people to trade-in their goods. Kate Spade and other "lolitable" brands are sold through them so I was sad about that. Acene Studios is a super modern Scandi-style company from Sweden and is next to AP; I visited that store a few times and Acene seemed like it was also "testing the waters" but wasn't firmly established / certain they wanted to be in the US.

>>10405073
I understand this complaint and don't blame anyone, but they usually do all new releases either with Japan or slightly after Japan's release date and a lot of Lolitas always comment "if I knew AP USA did releases I would have saved my money and ordered through them". There's also sort of a knock-on effect where the less you order through a satellite store (of any fashion brand) the less the mothership sends out to it; so not ordering through them creates a spiraling effect.

>> No.10405095

>>10405040
>>10405041
Looks like almost everything's still there.

>> No.10405096

>>10405076
>>10405083
Not OP but the only one I know of was the guy who went downtown to "protect the neighorhood!" like some hero armed with a machete and got his ass beat by a group of protesters when he chased someone with the machete.

Everyone's claiming he was murdered in the attack but he came forward on Twitter today and said he's in the hospital but otherwise ok. Dude's an idiot.

>> No.10405098

>>10404856
I’d imagine they probably would just try to resell it for more money

>> No.10405099

>>10405085
They’re just idiots who want free shit and to cause chaos

>> No.10405101

>>10405096
How is he an idiot? They were throwing rocks at him and he was trying to defend himself.

>> No.10405102

>>10405096
It's a tough call because what are you suppose to do? Many businesses, if they were to lose all their inventory tomorrow and had their store front destroyed, would not have the money to rebuilt. Most insurance companies never cover riot damage and because so much damage has happened, most insurance companies are busy figuring out how they can avoid paying out for any of this.

If I had a shop I might try to stand infront of it at the least. Even for people who aren't owners; there's an incentive to not let the 'hood you live in to become a food or retail desert.

The fashion district in SF was already suffering from homeless people camping all over and peeing in the doorways of Chanel / Gucci / so on... This could really set the area back.

>> No.10405103

>>10404804
Baby is not in danger, it's on the third floor of a giant ass fucking building

>> No.10405104
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>>10405098
It already happened

>> No.10405108

>>10405104
People are horrible and greedy.

>> No.10405110

>>10405096
https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1266925493384736769

There's another similar one with an elderly woman who looks 80+ being beat by a group for daring to defend her store/livelihood.

While I agree the machete guy was the instigator and don't pity that particular person/situation, using it as an example it using it as an excuse. It doesn't excuse these. Whether they ultimately die or survive doesn't matter. The intent was to murder.

There are stories from firefighters and EMT's talking about being attacked to because some of the retards can't differentiate them from cops.

>> No.10405116

>>10405103
Baby is also alot further away from union square than AP

>> No.10405148

>>10405116
Baby is across the street from the Japantown mall. On the first floor is a pro-Lolita (they really love lolitas that come in in full coords) tea shop run by an English couple that does a really lovely high-tea. The building's entire front is made of glass so I am worried.

AP is 10+ blocks away near union square / the main fashion shopping hub.

I hope both places and the tea house stay safe; I don't want my SF Lolita world to go up in flames. Please, if you know anyone on the ground; beg them to stop destroying people's dreams and livelyhoods.

>> No.10405149

>>10404800
A lot of the looting and destruction are from out of town Nazis

>> No.10405151

>>10405149
It doesn't matter what faction of the political compass is doing this; it affects everyone negatively.

Lolita fashion is barely mainstream enough to have store satellites in the US. These riots are going to make the brand owners nervous; the American market might be seen as "too risky" to serve if this keeps up. Other international stores will wonder similar things; we will lose access to goods.

>> No.10405158

>>10405148
I’ve unfollowed/ unfriend lots of lolitas these two days who’s reposting any pro protest, not that I don’t think black lives matter but under the backdrop of Covid-19 and everything it seems extremely irresponsible to go on the street destroying things while people are already suffering. Am I being too cold blooded?

>> No.10405163

>>10405158
No, you’re not.

My bf explained it like this:

Many people have been stuck inside during quarantine for months. These same people may have lost their jobs, have little to no money to support themselves and their families due to the pandemic and subsequent economic crisis, so they are likely stressed and bored.

Their only reprise is to cause chaos under the guise of “social justice” because it makes *them* feel good, important, even.

In reality, they’re just bring wildly irresponsible and risking hundreds of lives for their own selfishness.

>> No.10405170

I'm hurt for the businesses hit by rioting but even smaller ones like AP and JapanLA will be fine

LA is no stranger to riots, they probably have insurance plans that cover riot damage. JapanLA also has a GoFundMe that's sitting at $18,000 raised and counting.

If AP were hit, they would be to cover damage via crowdfunding easily even if insurance doesn't help.

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>>10405083
Why is everyone blind to the Oakland Federal Officer who was killed? Dave Patrick Underwood was shot dead while literally standing and doing nothing except guarding a building. No one is talking about this because it doesn't fit their agenda.

Congratulations. Your #BlackLivesMatter riots have taken the life of another person of color. Did Dave's life not matter because he was an officer? Was it suddenly worthless?

>> No.10405182

>>10405151
Yes it does matter that it's nazis and also cops who are inciting violence and looting, especially when people try to blame the blm protestors for that. Why is nobody talking about how the protestors are also the ones who are cleaning up after the mess?

>> No.10405186 [DELETED] 

>>10405176
>Did Dave's life not matter because he was an officer?

yeah man its kinda in the job description of being an officer

>> No.10405187

>>10405176
Do you really not understand that none of these people actually care about black people? They just want to look like saviours, no matter the actual result of their actions

>> No.10405199

>>10405176
All cops are bastards. Cancels out their blackness.

>> No.10405201

>>10405186
>le tumblr writing style

You people will do anything to bandwagon. It’s disgusting, like a bizarre twin to /pol/

>> No.10405202

>>10405186
Uh no, they aren't literally signing up for their own murder. They know there's a possibility in the line of duty while protecting people, but using that as justification to shoot them dead or treat them as subhuman makes you a piece of shit. I hope you get robbed and when you call them for help, they don't come.

>> No.10405203

>>10405176
Why would I care about some cop?

>> No.10405204

>>10405199
>t. Some stupid sheltered white bitch that has never known what it’s like to have a gun pointed at you by a cop

Fuck off and stop thinking that minorities need to be “protected” by your white savior complex

>> No.10405206

>>10405170
You're not hurt. Cut the shit.

Learn how insurance works. Premiums will skyrocket for not just for the affected business, but any covered by the particular insurance company. It's why car insurance goes up for everyone when the total number of claims they cover rises.

Stop justifiying dumbasses and admit you're doing it for the woke points. Indiscriminate looting and rioting helps no one and harms everyone but the looter. If you actually care about racial injustice, you'd be pissed about this shit smearing the appearance of a legitimate cause like I am.

>> No.10405218

>>10405206
There’s tornadoes and floods and fires and all kinds of other disasters that insurance companies need to pay out for. This looting is absolutely nothing compared to those disasters and the damage that results from that.

>> No.10405219

>>10405202
Cops don’t help during a robbery, are you stupid? Insurance gets your stuff back, not the cops.

>> No.10405225

>>10405218
Back it up with sources. It might be hard to do when all you're doing is parroting what other people have said. You can't earn woke points here and you obviously don't actually care about enacting change because you're defending detractors, so what exactly are your motivations?

>>10405219
Are you 14? There's no way an adult actually says dumb shit like this. As someone who went through 2 separate robberies, I'll enlighten you. Insurance companies require a case number. Guess who assigns those? A detective with the PD. They come out and take prints and photos to run in a DB. They can sometimes catch repeat offenders. They check serial numbers of stuff with local pawn shops and sometimes make recoveries. The prints and footage (if any) they gather can be used as evidence in court. Insurance companies don't "get your stuff back". They pay you a lump sum and guess what? It's not enough to buy new shit. It's usually about 60-70% of the value of the items.

Both of you need to educate yourselves, it's embarassing.

>> No.10405226

>>10405225
And one more thing. Before insurance companies pay out, you have to pay a deductible ranging from $600-$2,000. So sometimes it's not even worth filing a claim if they only stole a TV and some consoles.

>> No.10405229

>>10405225
I need sources to prove that....tornadoes and wildfires exist?

>> No.10405230

So why is it ok to forgive people for destroying a AP store when lolita fashion brands are already struggling? Weren't you fucking bozos freaking out about lolita stores closing due to Covid? The whiplash is real.

>> No.10405232

>>10405163
>My bf explained it like this:
please, think for yourself instead of relying onto someone else to do that for you.

In any way, as you've said it yourself, some may be under a heavy economical crisis and the desperation may lead them to do those things along with the necessity of being heard. Being it through violence or no. Violence usually emerge when their voices aren't heard, which, well, happens in that shithole that is USA.

>> No.10405235

>>10405230
Was the AP store destroyed? I can’t see proof just speculation

>> No.10405236

>>10405230
Because they're either A. probably looters themselves or B. people who can't form their own opinions and so they latch on to what's trendy on Tumblr. Most likely SJW's who only buy replicas and $20 Taobao so they don't care about small brands. It's funny because these types I know are the same people who whine about art theft and ~~support artists uwu~~~

>> No.10405237

>>10405236
>people who can't form their own opinions and so they latch on to what's trendy on Tumblr.

This shit is so rapidly becoming cult-like, too. There’s tweets with huge amounts of engagement where people are writing
>Cut ties with your friends or family members if they don’t understand
>It’s okay, you’ll find people who really value you If they don’t

It’s like some creepy recruitment shit.

>> No.10405241

>>10405163
Said like someone who doesn’t truly get why people riot in the first place.

>> No.10405243

>>10405108
Right? I can’t understand why a bunch of people would be crying over these fucking big brands being looted if they’re not being directly affected by this in the first place

stop acting like this supposes some kind of harm done to you because literally it only hits the company and in a low scale compared to the millions these fuckers make every year.
go cry harder over brands that don’t give a flying shit about your ass, yt’s

>> No.10405245

>>10405182
The proud boys literally drove in from out of state to trash cause damage and start fights, then duck out to make it seem like the riots are only angry black people fucking shit up. They do it every time there is a BLM protest and no one talks about it

>> No.10405247

>>10405245
Hell they showed up here to a protest and spray-painted white pride symbols on buildings and took pics of themselves in the crowds. Up until then the protest had been peaceful and they started shit and the police tear gassed everyone and it just escalated from there.

>> No.10405248

>>10405245
You're a moron if you actually believe this.

>> No.10405249

>>10405248
Not OP but there's evidence of >>10405247
https://twitter.com/mms5048/status/1267213759568805891

>> No.10405250

>>10405248
you’re a moron if you don’t believe in that

>> No.10405254

>police macing children and the elderly who happened to be in the area when the protest turned into a riot
>reporters getting hit with pepper bombs and rubber bullets
>multiple reporters and protesters losing their eyesight after getting hit in the head by rubber bullets
>b-but muh lowleetah dress!
Seppo greed at its finest.

>> No.10405255

Some literal who I used to follow wasn’t posting anything about this on her stories so I asked her why and what her excuse could possibly be for being racist like this and she told me she had PTSD from being in a situation where she couldn’t move or breathe as a kid. What a piece of shit. This isn’t about you.

>> No.10405256

>>10405254
The one reporter who lost an eye there's even video of them directly firing at her at head-level and walking towards her. They knew exactly what they were doing.

>> No.10405258

>>10405250
Watch the livestreams. I don't understand how this can be the most livestreamed event ever and yet people will latch on to a Twitter posts as evidence that it's all white supremacists doing everything. Lots of black white supremacists looting stores on LIVE VIDEO I guess.

>> No.10405261

>>10405255
>This isn’t about you.

I think this is the funniest attempt at a rebuke from people who practically survive on attention whoring. Maybe Twitter will just eat itself someday.

>> No.10405262

>>10405254
People can be upset by that and also be upset about small businesses and innocent everyday citizens being affected by greedy people. It's not just AP or lolita stores being affected

What I don't get about this thread is that because 5-10% of the cops on camera are doing these bad things, they have to burn random stores down. I don't get the people defending that. They act like if we oppose that we agree with the cops and it's the weirdest logical fallacy

>> No.10405263

>>10405258
The orange man has done such a good job with the fake news shit that now everybody just believes whatever it is that best fits their world view. Some asshole was circulating the theory that they didn't even arrest the actual cop, it was a bad body double.

>> No.10405264

>>10405255
This better be b8.

>> No.10405265 [DELETED] 

>>10405255
do you really think someone posting that their angry on an instagram story is going to help anyone? a lot of people don't even use instagram stories. you sound insufferable.

>> No.10405266

>>10405262
>They act like if we oppose that we agree with the cops and it's the weirdest logical fallacy

Because both the Tumblr and /pol/ crowds have always been as tribal as it gets. You're either with them or against them, there's no room for gray areas or independent thought. It also leads to increasingly extremist viewpoints because people want to out-do each other for loyalty to the mob.

>> No.10405268

>>10405266
>Because both the Tumblr and /pol/ crowds have always been as tribal as it gets.
Based.

>> No.10405270

>>10405262
I’m glad people can say this on cgl at least. The extreme viewpoints and division during the 2016 elections were proven to be stoked by Russian trolls; how much do you want to bet that Russians are fanning the flames of this too? A lot of the most extreme ideas start on 4chan, so at least this weird fancy dress board is still home to some independently minded people.

>> No.10405272

>>10405263
I shouldn't be surprised anymore and yet here I am.
I recently reread 1984 and it struck me how unrealistic it is, because the government in the book is really meticulous in destroying any evidence that goes against their narrative. It's completely unnecessary. All that's needed is to put out something people want to believe and they'll believe it despite hundreds of hours of video or whatever other evidence disproving it.

>> No.10405275

>>10405270
Yeah, people always forget that the Russians were trying to devide people. Not just elect orange man.
There was even a Russian document leaked talking about how black people specifically were stupid and easy to manipulate.
Anyway the Russians have succeeded despite it literally being leaked that that was, and presumably still is, their plan, and exactly how they were doing it.

>> No.10405276

>>10405275
*Divide

>> No.10405280

>>10405263
its either people get there news from Fox or Occupy Democrats

>> No.10405281

>>10405255
Well you’re an awful person. She has every right to not want to bring herself trauma. One person not posting for their own sake and trying to keep themselves at bay won’t make a difference.

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>>10405275
old newspaper article

>> No.10405284

>>10405255
...cool story bro

>> No.10405286

>>10405275
You have to also keep in mind that a lot of these extremist types get their news from Facebook or Tweets. By then, they don't want to hear conflicting viewpoints.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/sep/30/blacktivist-facebook-account-russia-us-election
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/if-russia-can-create-fake-black-lives-matter-accounts-who-will-next/2017/10/15/ffb2e01e-af79-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html
https://money.cnn.com/2017/09/28/media/blacktivist-russia-facebook-twitter/index.html
https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-target-black-americans/

>> No.10405287

>>10405275
Oh so it’s russians that are forcing cops to kill black people, I understand!

>> No.10405291

>>10404796
More woman should go out and loot.

>> No.10405299

>>10405291
>>10404796
I've watched videos of looting and there are women looting. I've seen women looting Louis Vuitton, Apple, Vans and Nike. Not as many as men, maybe 20%

Why is everyone so opposed to watching the goddamn videos

>> No.10405300

>>10405148
Japantown is also way uphill from union square so I hope the whole area is okay.

>> No.10405307

>>10405256
who cares when lolita stores are about to leave America forever? people will have to start ordering online or traveling to japan again.

>> No.10405309

>>10405148
>beg them to stop destroying people's dreams and livelyhoods.
beg the cops to stop brutalizing/killing people, then.

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>>10405307
>Travelling to Japan
>In the year of the plague

>> No.10405312

>>10405309
That would be very nice but a little bit of critical, non-mob thought would show that it's not going to make people stop looting.

>> No.10405313

>>10405310
jap government is saying they'll pay for 50% of people's travel expenses so that's more money for me to buy lolita with. enjoy knowing that there will never be a lolita store in america again thanks to you supporting niggers. :^)

>> No.10405314

>>10405313
Wow, really? Link?

>> No.10405316

>>10405313
Why would you lie on the internet in these dark hours

>> No.10405317

>>10405314
>Non-Japanese citizens who leave Japan, even U.S. citizen legal residents, will not be able to return under current conditions.

Just sayin

>> No.10405320

>>10405314
>>10405316
Anon is likely talking about the Go to Travel campaign in which they give out coupons of up to 20.000yen for /domestic/ travel.

>> No.10405321

>>10405307
>implying most people don't order online to begin with

>> No.10405322

>>10405235
It's fine as of today, but the sun is going down and a huge number of people are traveling towards SF.

>>10405182
The National Socialist German Workers' Party ended in May 1945. Nobody is a literal "nazi" anymore because it was an actual governmental body that existed and then ceased to exist. They could be "neo nazis" which are people who idolize the actual nazis but my beef with you calling them nazis in the first place is it is a form of labeling and othering. Whoever is rioting is not an easily-definable group and by smacking such an alienating label on them you've simplified the problem and put it away in a box. We need to understand the deeper underline motives here; not use Hilter's own tactics to "other" people into an undesirable group we can feel free to just dehumanize and ignore. If we want to end this we need to thoroughly study it and identify exactly what's going on.
>tldr; When you call somebody a Nazi you are applying Hilter's own preferred method of dehumanizing people.

>>10405300
Also on foot you have to pass through the tenderloin (murders in broad daylight kinda place full of heroine addicts and pimps) so probably that should discourage them from getting too far.

>> No.10405323

>>10405249
That's not "evidence". It's just a dumb tweet. Proud Boys are just a boys club that drinks beer and sometimes tries to defend peaceful conservative rallies. Far-leftists dont like them because they beat up antifa terrorists and people cheer them on.

>> No.10405324

>>10405322
Thank you for being sensible Anon.

>> No.10405326

>>10405313
the subsidize only qualifies for domestic but I believe it mainly covers your stay.
>>10405310
I'm going regardless of kung flu definitely end of this year or the begin of next year

>> No.10405327

>>10405322
> Won’t somebody think of the Nazis :(

>> No.10405328

>>10405327
This us versus them mob mentality is what allowed the Nazis to succeed. It's one of the most basic human reactions.

>> No.10405332

>>10405326
Go this year. Next year will be Olympics attempt #2 and tourism is always a shitshow when the olympics are in town.

>> No.10405333

>>10405101
He decided to walk up to a group of very pissed people and wave around a machete to “protect” a store that wasn’t even his.

He wanted a fight and by god he got one. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>> No.10405334

>>10405328
Exactly. First they said "lets put a label on the people we choose to identify as the trouble makers" then they said; "lets make speacial laws or limitations on that group" and slowly, over time, the "othering" effect set in and people stopped paying attention to what was happening to be the people who wore a star. We are absolutely no where near that, but historically humans mistreating each other has always started with labeling who it's okay to just dismiss.

Something I've always valued among the Lolita community is the idea that we can come together over fashion. We can, politics aside, share a mutual obsession with a style of clothing that creates a bridge of understanding.

Whenever I see Lolitas begging to "other" people, to stable them with a problematic label as a way to dismiss the person easily from the group; I get a little worried. I hope and want the focus to be about something that brings us together rather then bringing in real-world politics as a device to drive us apart and fracture our community.

There are tons and tons of studies that suggest the best route to de-radicalizing anyone from some ideology is to make them feel included and not excluded. When people feel they have no way to relate to more moderate people that just drives them further into their pre-existing beliefs; good or bad.

>> No.10405335

>>10405322

I’ll dehumanize a Nazi face-first into the curb and laugh doing it

Don’t be a Nazi or Nazi apologist, it’s really not hard

>> No.10405337

>>10405333
Did he die, btw? I saw the video and he looked very dead at the end, but apparently there are news stories saying he survived.

>> No.10405338

>>10405323

Proud Boys are violent assholes and deserve a massive beatdown.

>> No.10405339

>>10405333
He should have brought a gun and shot them.

>> No.10405340

>>10405338
Not at all. Their ethos is to never start a fight themselves. All of the incidents theyve been involved in have been defending themselves or others from violence.

>> No.10405342

>>10405339
>The Appropriate Choice
https://twitter.com/orwellngoode/status/1266945655219654659

>> No.10405345

>>10405334

Lolitas are not obligated to tolerate hateful white supremacists and Nazis nor are we obligated to help deradicalize them

It’s a fashion, not a therapy support group. If someone cannot resist ranting about black people or gays or Jews or whatever damn thing then they don’t get to be part of our community anymore.

>> No.10405349

>>10405335
The amount of actual "nazis" that exist in America you can count on one hand. The people that you refer to as "nazis" are just conservatives and classic liberals. You're just making excuses to attack people you disagree with because you cant argue with them.

>> No.10405351

>>10405337

He didn’t die; and it seems he’s even posting on Twitter. He did get beat up but it looks like he’s “okay” in the sense he’s not missing any body parts and still able to think/talk.

>> No.10405352

>>10405342
Awesome dude

>> No.10405355

>>10405345
I didn't realize there was some Lolita High Council that judges who gets to be a part of a community.

>> No.10405357

>>10405349
You are a very reasonable person Anon but your arguments are a total waste here. I'm sorry.

>> No.10405358

>>10405355
Trust me you think the Lolita community is bad, try the knitting community

>> No.10405364

>>10405349
>Thinking critically about something instead of typing some purely emotional reaction because reading/thinking are scary and won't get the like button clicked
People like you are why I still come to this Chinese cartoon imageboard instead of Twitter, anon.

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>>10405345
>they don’t get to be part of our community anymore.

Look at this delusional bitch and laugh

>> No.10405376

>>10405299
queens. Maybe i should go loot some chanel

>> No.10405377

>>10405345
>It’s a fashion, not a therapy support group.

There's actually no difference considering this fashion but go off lmao.

>> No.10405380 [DELETED] 

Wished I lived in Cali so I could go loot me some burando

Gibs me dat AP muffuga

>> No.10405381

>>10405380
Wow. You’re a shit person. Or maybe just shit disguised as a person?

>> No.10405397

>>10405345
>If someone cannot resist ranting about black people or gays or Jews or whatever damn thing then they don’t get to be part of our community anymore.
ahahahaha. try saying that to japan and china. if anything, THEY wouldn't want dumb sjws like you to be a part of the lolita community.

>> No.10405403

>>10405345
lol you leftist radicals hate anyone, even left of centers. We’re not obligated to tolerate Antifa, communists and radical left anararchists trying to make a race war and burning down our cities. You are the problem.

>> No.10405414

>>10405349
If you defend Nazis you’re a Nazi. Period.

>> No.10405418

>>10405414
If you defend killing someone because of their job or race, you're a Nazi.

>> No.10405422

>>10405418
>>10405414
everyone is a nazi now shut the fuck up

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>>10405422
>everyone is a Nazi

Equality has been reached!

>> No.10405424

>>10405351
>still able to think/talk.
what the FUCK. He looked like his head damn near smashed in.

>> No.10405427

>>10405255
This right here is the biggest virtue signaling post I have seen yet. I'm surprised you didn't include a "and everybody clapped" at the end, Karen. Lmao

>> No.10405429

>>10405243
Lol someone is salty. You even assumed I was some white person lol. But these are brands from japan not here in America , you’re only hurting asian buissnesses smart one.
Looting , no STEALING is never a right option . It just makes you a criminal.

>> No.10405430

>>10405247
Why is it in every protesting video that I see my friends post are there mainly ghetto black people cursing with their pants to their knees looting stores and jumping on cars then?

>> No.10405431

>>10405254
What idiot brings their child to a protest?!

>> No.10405432

>>10405255
Not everyone has to post something idiot. Some people have lives and are busy or dealing with other things. Don’t go judging other people from their illnesses

>> No.10405433

>>10405291
English isn’t your first language is it?

>> No.10405434

>>10405313
It was proven that was fake. They won’t pay for anything.

>> No.10405436

>>10405333
Because they attacked him! I would’ve fought back too if someone hit me!

>> No.10405437

>>10405337
He’s safe and recovering well thank goodness.

>> No.10405438

>>10405313
>boo hoo black ppl are sick of getting murdered by police now i can't have my frilly dwess store in amewica

>> No.10405439

>>10405349
Finally someone with sense.

>> No.10405440

>>10405424
The human body is remarkably durable and strong.

>> No.10405442

>>10405255
>someone has PTSD from a traumatic experience not being able to move or breathe as a child
>wow they must be a racist piece of shit for not commenting about or being involved in this thing where a guy died from not being able to move or breathe

Are you fucking serious?

>> No.10405443

Meanwhile /b is having a parade practically calling everyone n*****s and monkeys and how protestors should all be shot. What world am I living in? Feels like a simulation honestly.

>> No.10405444

>>10405437
the world would be better off without a retard like him regardless of which side he was on. makes people who don't support blm look like retards. natural selection, ya know.

>> No.10405445

>>10405443
wait until you see >>10405313

>> No.10405447

>>10404784
The sad part is now none of those stores will reopen again.

>> No.10405449

>>10405447
there a million other uniqlo/daiso locations in the bay area

>> No.10405451

>>10405444
Him ? You mean them? /b is full of those kinds of people.

>> No.10405452

>>10405449
Uniqlo and daiso are completely different stores than actual lolita brand stores

>> No.10405453

>>10405444
/b is the random section in 4chan

>> No.10405456

>>10405452
uniqlo/daiso are the ones who got looted, not any lolita stores. you are confused

>> No.10405462

>>10405456
As did JapanLA

>> No.10405463

>>10405397
>ahahahaha. try saying that to japan and china. if anything, THEY wouldn't want dumb sjws like you to be a part of the lolita community.
the Japanese lolitas i follow are tweeting in support of the protests and half of them publicly identify as LGBT+. it is silly to pretend that people in a subversive alternative fashion do not have diverse perspectives.

>> No.10405467

>>10405463
lgbt+ apparently = dumb sjw to you does it?

Fuck off homophobe

>> No.10405468

>>10405176
i was at the hospital when they drove him in, i didnt realize what was happening just a shit ton of motorcycles guiding the ambulance

wish his family peace, damn that sucks

>> No.10405470

>>10405463
if you really think japan is open and welcoming of lgbt, you need to do some research. they don't even have marriage rights yet, much less social approval

>> No.10405475

>>10405451
>>10405453
Are you retarded? I was talking about the man defending the store with a machete, not /b/.

>> No.10405476 [DELETED] 

>>10405463
If you can prove that Japanese lolitas aren't racist against blacks, I'd love to see that one. Spoilers: they are racist against literally everyone.

>> No.10405483

>>10405470
The stage they seem to be in is "it's cool as long as it's not my son". Like I see a lot of tv personalities, fictional characters and characters in supporting roles. But It seems like the current "wall" is that degree of closeness where it's your child, parent, sibling. Best friend seems to be the progressive angle now.

>>10405449
At least two separate uniqlos got raided; the union square one in SF and the one in Emeryville.

Personally I think dasio and uniqlo might choose to not re-open those locations, but they will still be here in the US.

For the two lolita stores I am worried because both have been the lone satellite for their brand in the US for a really long time.

>> No.10405484

>>10405470
Ah yes, that great monolith nippon where everyone thinks exactly the same about everything.
Lolita is an ALT-fashion, moron. It comes from counterculture. Of course there is support of minorities more prevalent than in general society. Are you one of those people who think you can just walk into a job interview in Lolita in Japan and say konnichiwa and you’ll blend right in? No you’ll look like a weirdo there too, just because Lolita has become more mainstream in Japan doesn’t mean it still doesn’t stick out massively. It’s still counterculture

>> No.10405486

>>10405470
Japan not being progressive on LGBT issues doesn’t mean gay people don’t exist there

>> No.10405489

>>10405484
>>10405486
y'all not getting the point that disliking gays/blacks/whatever is normal in that country, so people won't be shunned away from any group for those beliefs as op was implying. even if other people in the group are not bigots.

>> No.10405496

>>10405489
this

>> No.10405546

>>10405475
Chill the fuck out you salty bitch there’s a way to make a statement without being an asshole

>> No.10405547

>>10405489
True japan is appearantly scared of black people when they see them and thinK of them as ghetto. It’s just kind of how they were raised over there.

>> No.10405552

I want a sheltered white gf who doesn't know about racism.

>> No.10405561

>Mfw everyone thinks it's the blacks looting.

We haven't let them. They don't deserve anything so when they get close we scare them off and go back to get what we want. Besides the businesses are insured, no one cares
But your frilly shit, steal it, it won't matter soon.

>> No.10405562

>>10405561
What a larp

>> No.10405564

>>10405562
Just because you wanna be a sheep, stay poor, and stay inside doesn't mean no body else is taking advantage of no one paying attention. Who's gonna stop us?

>> No.10405566

>>10404947
But only eighty burned cars on a holiday is considered a good day?

>> No.10405567

>>10405094
I think you're right, anon. It's much safer in this day and age to do online retail only, especially if no one knows you have stock or what it even is, and you don't have any identifiable markers on the building where you keep your stock.

>> No.10405569

>>10405158
No. Just don't be too obvious about it or those idiots will try to get you cancelled. Just act as if social media doesn't exist until this blows over.

>> No.10405570

>>10405203
When the looters come for your burando, you will want some cops.

>> No.10405573

>>10405345
We also don't have to tolerate dangerhair SJWs, furry zoophiled, pedo diaperfags, littles, and sissy perverts, transfats r b&.

>> No.10405574

>>10405358
Had a hearty laugh when the middle-aged owner of ravelry trooned out after booting all Trump supporters. He's a laaaaady now.

>> No.10405575

>>10405438
Looks like you lost your way, this is the board about frilly dresses. Take your idpol sperging to /pol/.

>> No.10405578

>>10405255
Are you literally going around accusing people you know of not doing enough armchair activism/slacktivism/virtue signalling/twitter sperging, like you're the twitter gestapo? lmao.

>> No.10405580

>>10405158
I get your point but from my experience the people taking a political- ethical stance are not the same ones doing the looting.
Looters are just taking advantage of the situation.

>> No.10405582

this whole thread is just top AMERICANS behaviour
Sometimes you have to sit and wonder why your country is so fucked up, prone to extremism and violence.

>> No.10405585

>>10405582
It's pretty obvious why it's like this if you look at it's history.

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>>10405255
>>10405578
Saw some lady comment this on an instagram post from joanns fabrics. lmao.

>> No.10405594

>>10405585
kek I understand, I just sometimes wonder if the people living there ever ideate on it

>> No.10405598

>>10405592
> all over the world
Does it mean that I can’t pull out my euro card anymore?

>> No.10405599

>>10405592
>African Americans all over the world
Jesus christ lady get it together

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10405605

So last night when I went to bed they (roaming gangs of rioters) were three minutes away from my apartment raiding a Walmart. This morning I woke up to learn they then selectively targeted only the gun stores in the area. On twitter last night calls to storm the "white hoods" started. I am in a very working-poor area, we're mostly non-white here. I don't know if they mean "rich places" or literally places that are mostly white people.

... I've come to terms that if they come for my apartment I will not be able to save my 15+ dresses. Eight of them are Japanese brands, others are indie. Today in the daylight I'm prepping emergency "run and go" bags. And I'm wondering... What small Lolita things could I take along? I'm thinking, if I have to re-build my wardrobe, that maybe wristcuffs would be nice to still have? All of mine are ap and IW and they're all dyed lace in the coord colors I wear most (classic palette). What do you guys think? What's a small-size Lolita thing you would take with you?

>> No.10405608

>>10405605
Bring small accessories, necklace and socks and such, those are the most money consuming to have a collection. Stay safe anon!

>> No.10405609

>>10405605
fill one or two of your favorite bags, or shoes, with your accessories, and pack those?

>> No.10405612

>>10405605
Omg it is so scarry, take your fave coord with you and some little accessories you love

>> No.10405616

>>10405430
Because the media wants to perpetuate that only blacks are criminals. I watched videos of a white dude throwing bricks and lighting shit on fire and a white dude stealing LEGO’s and shit but CNN won’t play that reel

>> No.10405619

>>10405616
The plural of LEGO is LEGO

>> No.10405620 [DELETED] 

>>10405605
They say it’s from troll account here https://twitter.com/igd_news/status/1267402986369585153?s=21 but you do you and please stay safe.

>> No.10405622

>>10405605
They say it’s from troll account here https://twitter.com/igd_news/status/1267402986369585153?s=21 but you do you

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>>10405230
Black people can do whatever they want. If you disagree with anything they’re doing you’re just racist scum. Welcome to the new world.

>> No.10405633

>>10405580
From my experience they aren't looting or even directly saying it's good, BUT they making excuses or silencing the critics which is still encouraging it, as evidenced in this thread

>> No.10405634

>>10405608
Socks! I didn't even think of socks! Thank you.

>>10405609
I'm thinking of taking the plush bags; if things get smashed they'll be okay. I'll leave the PU ones because they can get damaged easily and I haven't sorted out the transport plan yet.

>>10405612
Not enough room for garments. I'm wearing my bloomers under a normie skirt as a way to smuggle more Lolita away with me but we (family) have agreed we should not take more then what we can each carry by ourselves.

>>10405622
Misinformation is everywhere and this could totally be a fake post but they did as of last night move into the 'burbs around the bay area which touch cities they already hit. So even if the stated motive is false they are changing their tactics regardless.

>> No.10405635

>>10405605
I mean if you're not racist you don't have to worry. Otherwise that a You problem and you might wanna get counseling.

Literally only racists are in danger so yeah if you're a good person you don't have to worry about anything

>> No.10405636

>>10405635
So all those minority shop owners were racist against minorities right? That’s why their shops were looted

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>>10405635
> if you're not racist you don't have to worry.

I don't even know what's bait and what isn't anymore

>> No.10405642

>>10405616
>Watched feed of some stores in Santa Monica being looted
>Black and white people rushing in
>But mostly black people coming out with armfuls of t-shirts

Who the fuck even bothers with Hot Topic

>> No.10405646

>>10405358
My knitting group told me that twink was a slur and I couldn't say it because it was derogatory to gay people

>> No.10405648

>>10405570
>When the looters come for your burando
That won't happen

>> No.10405653

>>10405648
Yeah I’m sure the people looting will make the distinction that your house has burando and won’t come and ransack your shit.

>> No.10405656

https://www.tokyoreporter.com/japan/hundreds-protest-alleged-tokyo-police-violence-against-kurdish-man/
Japan has its own riots now too.

>> No.10405666

>>10405635
>I mean
>Literally
>So yeah

This way of speaking makes you come off as ingenuine and exaggerating

>> No.10405668

>>10405580
Then why was there no looting during the Covid protests?

>> No.10405669

Priorities, everyone.

>> No.10405673

>>10405668
Because most of those protestors were white people

>> No.10405675

>>10405669
I wish sm activists were less shaming and let white people actually keep face. They articulate things in a way it's hard to support them while respecting oneself. I feel like many people may choose not to in a case like this.

>> No.10405676

>>10405675
Yeah, I'm fairly lib but they're framing things in a way that all white people are oppressors and that white people can do everything they can and still be racist and the only way to not be racist is to actively self-hate
>t. asian

>> No.10405683

>>10405676
They are just hateful people. If it were another decade they would just as soon hate Jews or black people. They're only doing it because it's publicly acceptable to shit on white people. It needs to stop.

I'm also not sure what self-flagellating white people think is going to happen in the world where everyone thinks white people are inferior. They'll be spared because they're ok with it?

>> No.10405691

>>10405668
>Then why was there no looting during the Covid protests?
there even was looting during lockdowns so lmao

>> No.10405692

>>10405673
amen to that. the thing with most black people is they really do not work as a race to better themselves. TRUE STATEMENT.
they are also more racist than any other race I've ever met.
The would rather get their "nails did, buy fake jewelry and have 10 kids" and live off the system then actually work and be responsible.

>> No.10405693

>>10405489
im japanese and disliking gays is not common.
most japanese people just dont care about your sexuality, but we arent hateful towards gays and lesbians.

>> No.10405694

>>10405470
>they don't even have marriage rights yet, much less social approval
You really be surprised how Japan wants gay marriage so badly because Taiwan and Australia legalized with no problem. The citizens want it the problem lies with their shitty government.

>> No.10405695

>>10405694
basically this. My cousin is a lesbian and her family is supportive towards her.
also there are a lot of gay communities in japan that want same sex marriage.

>> No.10405702

>>10405693
why would a japanese person be here instead of 2ch?

>> No.10405703

>>10405656
Based Japan.

>> No.10405709

>>10405695
Are Japanese lesbians much cuter than the Australian dykes and what it is look like there for the lgbt community in Japan.

>> No.10405721

>>10405709
it's a common observation/complaint among american lesbians that asian lesbians barely exist compared to other races. are there really a lot of them elsewhere?

>> No.10405725

>>10405616
If it's the same image your talking it's because a bunch black people are trying to get the money out of the self check out machines and it's one white due with one Lego set in the back ground of this image.

>> No.10405731

>>10405725
If it's a different image, I'd fucking laugh because that means it was a previously unseen gang of scrawny white dudes stealing Lego sets.
But it is almost certainly the same image that was being meme'd into oblivion.
>Three black guys with drills trying to break into the self-checkout
>White guy running by with one box of Lego

>> No.10405733

>>10405635
imagine being this fucking deluded

>> No.10405734

>>10405721
>are there really a lot of them elsewhere?
From what I heard others told me that Japan has a huge lesbian community down there in Tokyo and Shibuya districts. When you head you'll find a crowd of lesbians showing up at bars and clubs all day or after work.

>> No.10405737

>>10405694
>>10405693
Wow it's almost like Japanese people have diverse ideas and opinions.
Westerners always act like Japanese people are a monolith.

>> No.10405740

>>10405702
to practice my english. it makes me happy to see international people love japanese subcultures

>> No.10405743

>>10405740
Are your people planning any retaliation against the Chinese dogs for spreading coronavirus and getting the olympics canned or nah

>> No.10405749

>>10405668
Because they weren't antagonized by police and the white supremacists want to look good.
This movement has police and white people starting the riots to make the movement look bad.

>> No.10405751

>>10405749
I can't believe that both sides are using the same hired protesters lie. What a fucking mess.

>> No.10405756

>>10405749
Wow you really believe everything you're told. It's actually really sad to see.

>> No.10405760

>>10405751
>hired protesters
Have you actually went? Do you know anyone that did? I never said anything about hired protesters.

>> No.10405761

>>10405564
The police lol. Have fun with the teargas

>> No.10405762

>>10405569
Exactly what I’m doing. The sad yet funny thing is eventually this will blow over within a couple weeks and be forgotten.

>> No.10405764

>>10405582
You just have to live with it, sorry.

>> No.10405765

>>10405605
So sorry you have to even think about this anon. The world we live in is fucked up. I’m sorry.

>> No.10405766

>>10405598
No. All whites must answer for this.

>> No.10405768

>>10405616
But the videos i saw were my friends videos that they recorded on their phones not the media’s. They were all black.

>> No.10405770

>>10405668
Because they actually were decent people with a brain in their head.

>> No.10405774

>>10405096
He was chasing down a teen on a skateboard with his machete and a mob came in to stop him from killing someone, actually.

>> No.10405775

>>10405110
She was trying to stab people who were attempting to enter the store.

>> No.10405779

>>10405751
There are literally videos of undercover cops starting to break windows and tear gas and rubber bullets being fired at peaceful crowds. The cops are starting shit. People from out of town are looting and running before they can get caught. There was one city where every single looter arrested in one night was from out of state, as per the mayor.

>> No.10405782

>>10405779
The mayor backtracked that statement because it wasn't true.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/minnesota-jail-records-arrested-inside-state-george-floyd.html

This is how they manipulate you. Release some bullshit "fact." By the time it's backtracked everyone has forgotten and is repeating the new "fact."

>> No.10405783

>>10405768
Silly Anon, you can't trust your own eyes. Trust the media's reports and facts.

>> No.10405784

>>10404784
I don’t give two shits about the blacks or the whites and their shitty ass bloods and crips tier feud now tell me if AP is still there or not to at least stick to the topic at hand

>> No.10405785

>>10405775
So you know what the right course of action is? Disengage and leave. You seriously can't act like she's wrong and they took the right course of action. The lack of empathy from you is frightening

>> No.10405787

>>10405775
Yeah totally fuck that little old lady trying to defend her property. Better loot her shit

>> No.10405800

>>10405653
Anyone looting in a house is either going for damage or obvious snatch and grab targets. Even JapanLA didn’t have much stolen, just damaged. Their large Apple Monitor which was probably worth a lot wasn’t taken, but damaged.

Clothes aren’t in danger of being grabbed and individual homes aren’t in danger of being looted