Casual Sweet Thread

[Anonymous No.10395989]

To balance out the OTT thread >>10395974, lets have a casual sweet thread

Some questions to start off with
>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
>What makes an outfit casual or not?
>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
>Can wigs ever be considered casual?

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>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
Casual by lolita standards. If I wanted to be casual by normie standards, I just wouldn't wear lolita at all.

>What makes an outfit casual or not?
Minimal accessories, simple color coordination and cuts, and a "lived in" feeling. I think cardigans make outfits more casual for some reason.

>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
Skirts and JSKs.

>Can wigs ever be considered casual?
Yes, but only if the wig is passable as real hair and not styled in an OTT way.

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>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
An outfit that isn't "just" towned down or an simple outfit, but uses casual elements

>What makes an outfit casual or not?
Replacing the blouse in favor of something more comfortable to wear during daily tasks (different to blouses which you don't want to get all sweaty), simple accessories

>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
Skirts

>>Can wigs ever be considered casual?
As long as they don't look costume-y, why not

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>>10395989
>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
it is lolita mixed with casual jfash elements. for casual lolita, some rules of lolita are broken or bent to accommodate a more relaxed, comfy coordinate. there must be enough "lolita" in the coord to keep it as "casual lolita" rather than a "casual mix coord".

>What makes an outfit casual or not?
the combination of items should not be too neat nor too clean. the silhouette should feel freer or more relaxed than a lolita coordinate.

comparing the sweet lolita coord in this image with the casual lolita coord, what makes the casual coord "casual" is the sweat shirt, the un-lolita shoes, the more relaxed hair style, and the absence of a petticoat. each coord will be different, though.

>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
skirts usually have fewer fancy, uncasual elements. they are easy to dress down.

>Can wigs ever be considered casual?
yes

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>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?

Casual by lolita standards. It's a comfier, easier way to wear lolita than normal.

>What makes an outfit casual or not?

Casual is simplifying or even excluding certain things that would be necessary for a normal coord. For example, wearing a tee or bolero instead of a blouse, plain legwear or none at all, minimal or no jewelry, smaller and less conspicuous headwear. It gives off a comfy vibe.

>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?

For me, it's OPs. I can just thrown on the OP, headwear, shoes and be out the door in few mins. It's the easiest and fastest kind of coord to put on.

>Can wigs ever be considered casual?

In natural colors and toned down styles, sure.

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This is such a comfy thread, thank you sweet anon(s)

[Anonymous No.10396263]

Thank you for this thread.

I am a little afraid of derailing, but does anyone have suggestions on where to buy cutsews in this day and age, particularly ones that will fit 100+ cm chests? (I am aware stretch is a thing. I typically look for 88+ cm cardigans for myself and that works)

Most cutsews I find are older and thereby a lot smaller.

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Going to dump a couple to keep the thread on track

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>>10396263

MAXICIMAM but the stock on CDJapan is sometimes limited depending on which specific cutsew. And their cutsews are the kinds with lacy collars and look very blouse-like still. The large/lovely size is usually fine for fitting the chest but they are a bit short so unless you have a higher sitting natural waist they may be too short to wear with skirts which many causal coords often use, but fine under jsks

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Hmmm I’m tall so that’s one of the primary reasons I need a larger size... that is good to know though.

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>>10396273
There are hime sleeves and Madonna crowns in the casual lolita Instagram tag. The absolute state of this community

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>>10395989
>>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
Casual is a style I'd wear outside of meetups for everyday activities, errands, etc. It's casual by lolita standards but it should be okayish around normies as well. I should be able to dress quickly and move around comfortably, and that includes getting as little comments from strangers as possible.
>>What makes an outfit casual or not?
Casual is: not too many items, comfortable fit (nothing is falling off or getting destroyed by the weather, I can run and sit in transport, I can take something off if I'm hot, no sliding down socks and uncomfortable shoes), moderate petticoat, practical purse.
My casual outfits usually include cardigans, plain tights, normie shoes, little make-up and hair in an updo.
>>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
OPs - when you have to dress quickly.
Skirts (with cutsews) when you have to move a lot.
>>Can wigs ever be considered casual?
Naural coloured and medium to short length wigs can be a lifesaver when you need to dress very quickly. So yes, some of them can.

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Some of these coordinates still read like full lolia to me. Like what makes >>10396273 casual, the use of a cutsew and not a blouse?

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>>10396538
Casual lolita is full lolita it's just more casual. I think that cutsews are more easy to move around in so that makes it more casual. The barret is also more practical than a big headbow because it can actually keep you warm. So basically I think casual means practical to me but it can mean other things to others such as ease of coordinating or something.

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>>10396538
I find it's also the number of pieces used. Like, if you throw on an OP, headbow, socks and shoes that's really basic in terms of what you're actually wearing but you may still look really fancy because of the pieces themselves. That's why it's tricky to definre.

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>>10396263
Modern Meta and AP should fit, you just may have issues with the arms.

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>>10396587
Awesome thanks

>>10396538
Casual isn’t a substyle. It’s like “summer friendly coordinates.” What that is is different to different people.

Casual coords are just coords that are easy to put on and wear around town casually. Sometimes that includes cutsews and skirts and questionable footwear but sometimes it’s just a comfy jsk, cutsews and hat

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>>10396582
But an OP, headbow and socks is a full coordinate, and also could be easily OTT. No one would consider pic related casual.

i think the definition of casual has broadened as normal coordinates become more dressy and OTT.

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>>10396616
the wig style makes it non-casual

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>>10396616
Anon this photo has:
>twintail wigs
>circle lenses
>multiple sets of eyelashes per person
>enough plastic jewelry to melt into a car bumper

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>>10396642
it looks like they're each just wearing a bracelet and couple rings a piece. which >>10396273 also has, plus a rosette and a bow in her hair in addition to the beret

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I like the discussion happening ITT.
One person mentioned petticoat sizes... I'd like to add second that it's a big deciding factor whether something is casual or not. A lot of times people think skirt = casual but when it has a huge petticoat like >>10396005, it's no longer casual imo.

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>>10396538
>Like what makes >>10396273 # casual, the use of a cutsew and not a blouse?
i don't think it is casual.

in jfash, "casual" does not mean "simple". "simple" means "simple". (or, "shimpuru" does.)

"casual" is a style of clothing. Closet Child has a section for it, along with sections for Lolita, Gothic, Punk, etc.

"casual lolita" is "casual fashion" plus "lolita fashion".

this image gives two examples of casual sweet coords. one is casual + sweet lolita, one is casual + sweet without lolita.

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>>10396660
(also, casual in an alternative jfash context is different from casual in a mainstream jfash context.)

>>10396656
i think i agree with your assessment

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>>10396660
Those sections on closet child are to denote different styles entirely from lolita, not gothic and punk lolita, though? I am not following what you are saying

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>>10396538
I think there are different levels of casual. IMO casual means that it's missing something that is usually required in coord, such as a blouse or socks. In this case she replaced the required blouse with a cutsew, when cutsews are not part of a "proper" lolita coord, so it's slightly casual.

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>>10396668
yes. and "casual" brands specialize in "casual" fashion, the way "punk" brands specialize in "punk" fashion. it has nothing to do with lolita.

it is best to think of "casual lolita" as "casual style plus lolita fashion", rather than "lolita but less strict".

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some more casual lolita coords from Japanese lolitas

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>>10396675
>"lolita but less strict"
I'm curious what would you call that then?

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>>10396677
denim jackets or riders jackets are casual elements that can be used with lolita main pieces to add casual style to the lolita coord.

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i am not sure. it depends on what rule is being disregarded.

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that was the wrong photo but it works

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>>10396686
I feel like some people would say otome, but I never really understood what kind of fashion that was supposed to be.

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>>10396656
I agree that normally a big petticoat wouldn't be casual but since its being worn with a regular cut tshirt (not a normal cutsew with puff sleeves) i think that element makes it casual

i think its a balancing act

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I feel like I cant make coords look casual no matter what and I cant pick out why. I'm used to wearing skirts and girly fashion idk why I cant make lolita look casual.

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>>10396616
If you took away the wigs and had only a single girl in that exact outfit, I think it would be pretty casual.

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>>10396263

If you're really out of options, you can try contacting Cherie Cherise or Lady Sloth.

Cherie Cherise use to custom make dresses, then when they introduced their cutsews I think they also made them in bigger sizes. It's been years since then though, so I'm not sure if their business model has changed. If not, they might be able to help you with your sizing.

Lady Sloth has always used stretch fabric in some of her earliest dresses, so at least we do know she is able to sew with it. You could probably request a custom cutsew from her.

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If they're fat enough to fit into the lovely line then they probably won't fit most skirts anyways.

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>>10396263
Glitter Tale can custom make them

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>>10396864

Eh, I buy that line because I have bigger shoulders and chest and it's not painfully huge, but it probably stretches a lot more given that the upper limit to measurements is fairly high.

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I'd never consider it as casual. Oldschool, yes, but not casual at all.

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>>10395989
>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
Lolita coord that you name more daily and casual than standard at a glance. For normie standards I'd just wear hoodie and jeans.

>What makes an outfit casual or not?
Less fansy shoes and bag. Little and simple headdress. Less voluminous petticoat. Cutsew or T-shirt with loliable print/details. And maybe less marked accent on waistline.

>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
Some anon here says it's OP cause you don't need to choose nothing else except shoes and headwear. I understand this but I personally can't make my OP coords look casual so I use skirts and cutsews.

>Can wigs ever be considered casual?
Why not, just don't use costumey and OTT looking. Also I think straight ones work better.

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>>10396864
The lower measurements on some lovely line pieces are lower than you expect, though if they run short I will probably skip them altogether. I fit skirts just fine, though. Thank you for your concern

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Thanks for the ideas!

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>>10397076

If you order Lady Sloth prepare for it to take months and months to be shipped. Even their pre-made/predordered pieces take forever and they lie about shipping times frequently via messages and just ignore you when you ask about the timeframe on their public posts being different htat what was given via PMs...they were never rude I guess but the lack of transparency is disappointing so I no longer trust purchasing from them.

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Unfortunate. My only experience has been with their premade pieces and purchased on LM which shipped immediately. Good to know

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kindly avoid repeat posting

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>>10397170
wrong image tagged, sorry

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>>10397170
I think they were more concerned about proving their point than actually contributing

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>>10397170
I’m sorry, there’s a lot of images in the thread and I lost track of what was already posted

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yeah it is difficult! especially once we reach around 100 images

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>>10397180
i am second-guessing everything i might post at this point

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>>10396660
> in jfash, "casual" does not mean "simple". "simple" means "simple"
I think this is the biggest problem with casual lolita aka the cultural barrier. The witchy thread also mentioned it, that in asian fashion it's not just about the clothes but also about aesthetics and feeling. If it doesn't feel casual then it's just normal lolita, not casual lolita

>>10397180
I appreciate it! The coords you dumped were very cute

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>>10396675
casual isn't a style like you're implying though. casual in this instance refers more to the situational appropriateness of the clothing.

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i do not think it refers to the situational appropriateness. i think "casual style" is not a Fashion like lolita or gyaru, but it is nonetheless a category which can stand on its own. you can call an outfit "casual' and not worry about qualifying it with anything else.

it can be defined by ease, comfort, and a kind of looseness or carefree-ness. it is not common to see crisp, straight lines in a casual outfit. there is a relaxed and easy-going feeling.

from my observations, casual may not be its own strict Fashion Tribe, but it has its own aesthetic elements that influence whatever fashion it is combined with.

i also think these categories all have permeable boundaries and ultimately, we mostly agree on what a casual lolita coord is when we see one.

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>>10397216
i'm literally just telling you how it works. your opinion is wrong. why don't you do some research yourself. i fucking hate westerners.

>https://blog.apparel-ai.com/planning/400
>https://progrit-media.jp/484

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>https://classical-alice.com/2018/12/12/%E5%AE%89%E3%81%84%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AA%EF%BC%88%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A5%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%AD%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7/

also if you really need to be lolita specific.

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>>10397216
This seems to be heavily grounded in your own perception and not based on anything. What sources of you have (don’t need say closet child categories please)

>>10397250
Thanks this is helpful

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>>10397250
i have done research, but thank you for those links.

"clothing that is less formal" makes sense for normie contexts. but "casual" has a vibe even there. in the second link, discussing how "business casual" is different from everyday wear sort of approaches that idea.
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thank you for this one also

>>10397262
based on fashion magazines and general fashion media. the perspective i am trying to convey is to help people understand the idea of "casual" in a way outside of "lolita but less strict".

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>>10397265
i also want to reiterate the point made in the Classical Alice post, that it is difficult to define and up to interpretation, with an ambiguous meaning.

for my part, i am trying to explain why a coord such as >>10396273 is not "casual" in the way that a coord such as >>10396107 is "casual". that is why i am focusing on "casual" as a distinct, definable style of clothing. casual wear is easy to identify but difficult to put into words, but i think it's better to try to explain it than to shrug it off.

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>>10397273
Or, you know, you could just chill and stop policing the casual thread.

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>>10397262
no problem. sorry for being a cunt. i just really hate when westerners (non-japanese) define things from magazines almost explicitly, without taking japanese cultural context into consideration. japan is meticulous when it comes to defining things and using words in a certain way. and magazines tend to categorize everything in order to mirror that meticulousness. most fashion in japan is still centered around what is and isn't appropriate for any given situation, and that's where fashion terms come from initially, then they end up being applied to specific street fashions in order to "ground" them, more for the benefit of onlookers than anyone else, but they still keep their roots. another issue with a lot of street fashions in japan is that most of them, while trying to express a subculture rebellious element, also fall prey to the meticulous definitions by magazines and the like, even though most of the fashion participants simply use that as a guide. people wearing street fashion tend to be more lax, since social awareness is slightly diminished. this probably is why there are so many "rules" in lolita that the west adheres to, when in japan, most people don't on a day to day basis. i understand why many people who have never been part of japanese culture don't really grasp the importance of context, but it's frustrating for people to make their own conclusions based on a narrow view.

also, who the fuck keeps referencing closet child's clothing categories for ANYTHING?

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>>10397275
description is not prescription, anon

this is a chill thread with very minimal salt so far

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>>10397278
At least 3 anons read annoyed with you coming in and trying to force your particular view of casual onto the thread so I’m going to go ahead and disagree

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>>10397277
>another issue with a lot of street fashions in japan is that most of them, while trying to express a subculture rebellious element, also fall prey to the meticulous definitions by magazines and the like, even though most of the fashion participants simply use that as a guide.
yes. magazines also have the agenda of selling brands to justify their advertising pricing, and sometimes those meticulous definitions have the ulterior motive of getting you to buy the product. this is what helped set Fruits apart, i think, and why Kera's current website seems a bit lifeless (the artistry is mostly gone, and it's more transparently about selling clothes)

>pic unrelated

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>>10397273
this entire post makes no sense. you're trying to say that the blog expressed the term as ambiguous (and agree?0, but you're also trying to define it in an unambiguous way. a big part of why i linked that in the first place was because she mentions the clear link between what casual means in "general women's fashion" and "lolita fashion" and even goes on to say that casual lolita isn't a specific theme or style, just a toned-down version.

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>>10397273
this entire post makes no sense. you're trying to say that the blog expressed the term as ambiguous (and agree?), but you're also trying to define it in an unambiguous way. a big part of why i linked that in the first place was because she mentions the clear link between what casual means in "general women's fashion" and "lolita fashion" and even goes on to say that casual lolita isn't a specific theme or style, just a toned-down version. you're quite literally arguing about defining the "sense" of what casual is, which isn't going to be the same to everyone, even given the definition, but is generally defined by a group, rather than an individual. hell, even outside of japan, the term casual is defined more by social circumstance than some arbitrary idea someone has. what you put on and see as casual, others may not, even in lolita (as you are expressing). i just wanted to explain that the term in japan does have a specific meaning as applied to both general fashion and lolita fashion there. but since the word casual in regards to clothing outside of japan means something else, it's not going to be based off of japanese definitions.

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>>10397279
well, i think we can all agree that we all like casual lolita and like posting coords.

>>10397290
yes, it is a term that is difficult to describe. it means different things to everyone. also, the blog mentions specifically casual items (cutsews, hoodies, printed skirts that don't need a petti, etc.) to use for people who are looking to try a casual lolita coord. so, even though the concept is different for each person, there are some ways that are commonly used for making a coord casual; such as susbtituting casual-style clothing for lolita brand clothing.

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>>10397293
i think i understand what you are saying, and i apologize for not being clear.

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>>10397294
Nice backpedalling you fucking retard.

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>>10397299
Anon this is literally Pink House style

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>>10397299
it's not that you weren't being clear, you're being perfectly clear, you just don't understand what you're saying. you very strictly defined casual a few times, you just don't seem to understand that's what you're doing (probably because you're not defining it with concrete terms or examples). you also seem to think that cultural context doesn't matter when in fact it's pretty important. and now you're just digging your heels and posting shit that isn't even lolita, because by your definition anything that looks seemingly lolita to you but doesn't have poof is lolita, including random pinkhouse stock photos which you probably only found because you looked up the brand in closet child's casual section.

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yeah, the uploader had tagged it as casual lolita. maybe a case of tag abuse.

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>>10397308
>the uploader
Stop using pinterest as a reference.

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>>10397308
Tag abuse is common. You should probably use your brain when evaluating things.

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anon take a break

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>>10397299
it's not that you weren't being clear, you're being perfectly clear, you just don't understand what you're saying. you very strictly defined casual a few times, you just don't seem to understand that's what you're doing (probably because you're not defining it with concrete terms or examples). you also seem to think that cultural context doesn't matter when in fact it's pretty important. and now you're just digging your heels and posting shit that isn't even lolita, because by your definition anything that looks seemingly lolita to you but doesn't have poof is casual lolita, including random pinkhouse stock photos which you probably only found because you looked up the brand in closet child's casual section. tags or not, you should be able to tell what it is. i don't feel particularly confident in the dump when you can't tell the differences.

[Anonymous No.10397316]

>>10397312
They weren’t wrong. You are spamming with a vague idea of what you are talking about at best and working off of what seems like a crackpot theory of what “Japanese Lolitas” call casual. The fact that you have posted several Pink House coords is suss as hell

[Anonymous No.10397317]

>>10397312
You should take the break. From posting.

[Anonymous No.10397319]

>>10397312

>>10397314
please see above

[Anonymous No.10397322]

>>10397316
thank you.

>>10397319
why don't you see yourself out. you know this is supposed to be casual -sweet- lolita, yeah? probably not based on your posts.

[Anonymous No.10397323]

>>10397319
I am patiently waiting for you to dump gyaru. Seems on brand.

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>>10396677
>>10396679
I have a denim vest I'm dying to work into a casual ouji coord.

[Anonymous No.10397335]

>>10395989
>>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
Definitely casual by lolita standards, although I think normies consider sweaters/hoodies casual as well and those could be considered a staple for casual lolita imo as long as they fit the kawaii aesthetic
>>What makes an outfit casual or not?
Coords with a comfy and laid back vibe read as casual to me. I think knitwear works great for that!
>>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
Skirts, but JSKs and OPs can be styled casually too if you know what you're doing
>>Can wigs ever be considered casual?
Depends on the wig styling, if it looks like natural hair then why not?

>>10396616
This for example is an unnatural wig styling that pushes the coords into OTT territory

[Anonymous No.10397338]

>>10397325
This is a casual SWEET thread. It's for SWEET lolita, not punky and old school and other jfash.

[Anonymous No.10397339]

>>10397338
Just let them throw their tantrum because I posted a cream cookie collection coord with a cutsew

[Anonymous No.10397340]

>>10397335
>someone posts OTT coord as example
>you respond to it in earnest without reading
are you just shitposting now?

[Anonymous No.10397341]

>>10397325

>>10397322
i understand you are annoyed, but i think you have misinterpreted much of what i have said. i apologize for not being able to be clear.

this discussion has stirred up a lot of negativity, which was absent earlier in the thread. it's not productive so i won't continue it.

>>10397332
go for it and report results

[Anonymous No.10397343]

>>10397341
No, it stirred up negativity towards you because you're an autistic retard. Again, stop posting.

[Anonymous No.10397344]

>>10397341
We are annoyed because your dump is garbage. It’s not consistently sweet or lolita. If you want to stop negativity maybe stop the dump or at least stop signaling it’s still you tag-chan

[Anonymous No.10397348]

>>10397341
speak for yourself, the discussion was more than productive for those of us who decided not to stick our heads in the sand. i get it, you got upset because your opinion was simply not correct, don't take it out on the thread.

[Anonymous No.10397351]

>>10397341
end dump

>>10397344
i did exhaust the better saved coords earlier. i'll delete the ones from this dump that probably don't fit the thread theme, so there will be more room.

[Anonymous No.10397354]

>>10397351
too old to delete! well, there's always next thread, if this one reaches 150

[Anonymous No.10397366]

>>10397354
Aww poor baby, don't cry. And don't let the door hit your diaper on the way out.

[Anonymous No.10397392]

>>10395989
>>What is your definition of casual lolita? Is it casual by lolita standards or normie standards?
Putting on a dress is already not casual by local normie standards. I define casual as a coord I feel comfortable wearing to the grocery store.

>>What makes an outfit casual or not?
For me pretty much a cutsew, few accessories, and small poof because I live in a hot climate. I can't use hoodies, cardigans, berets, and legwarmers to give a cozy feeling. It ends up looking more "simple" than "comfy", which apparently might piss some of the definition-obsessed people off. I'm not willing to wrinkle my skirt to look more pedestrian.

>>What is easier to wear casually: OPs, JSKs or skirts?
For me, JSK with a cutsew, but for shorter women, SK. I don't like having to worry about my cutsew being too short to stay tucked all day or too short to cover the ugly shirred part of the waistband.

>>Can wigs ever be considered casual?
If they pass for natural, sure. I think extensions and partial hairpieces are more casual than a full wig, though.

Possible hot take: brand miniskirts are still lolita but specifically casual lolita.

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wtf happened to this thread. Why do we always have some random salty debate in casual threads? How did everyone argue about not posting on topic and miss this obviously not sweet coord >>10397035

[Anonymous No.10397842]

>>10397840
Because it was one person with one post and not two entire dumps stapled onto someone spazzing about their definition of casual

[Anonymous No.10398454]

>>10397840
sometimes its easier to ignore off topic posts, especially if its just one, rather than start a big argument and derail the post

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>>10396686
Any idea where to get a cardigan/sweater like this one, or what terms to search for?

[Anonymous No.10399339]

>>10399324
"knit cardigan" should bring up a lot but idk about specific shops

[Anonymous No.10399550]

>>10399324
Axes Femme