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Purgatorio/Paradiso 2020 Thread

Are you tuning in this weekend? Will this set a standard for virtual lolita events in the future?

>> No.10392550

>>10392542
>Are you tuning in this weekend?
Yes, for a few panels at least
>Will this set a standard for virtual lolita events in the future?
It's too early to tell and I'm not interested in virtual events in general. I was just really looking forward to Paradiso...

>> No.10392561

>>10392542
NO

>> No.10392565

>>10392550
I mean they haven't come out and canceled yet, but I have a feeling that's coming down the pipeline eventually

>> No.10392568

>>10392542
How do I get in. My brain is smooth and I didn’t have tickets.

>> No.10392825

>>10392568
you click the links and watch it for free retard

>> No.10392876

Anyone tuned in, today?

>> No.10392879

Only one interesting looking panel others seem boring

>> No.10392941

Joelle is adorable

>> No.10392967

I liked the indie brand panel. I tuned in for the wig panel, but didn’t watch it all the way through. What I saw seemed okay.

>> No.10393016

I just tuned in and immediately left because of the two females droning on about LGBTQ and cis males.

>> No.10393020
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“How to self tie” that’ll be a no from me.

>> No.10393024

>>10393020
I've seen some some japanese outfits(not lolita, some other jfash) with shibari and it looked pretty cool.

>> No.10393025

>>10393020
I wish we could banish these stupid fetishists from Lolita, it was bad enough when they were Male fetishists cross-dressing and wanting to wear our clothes, but now there are these bondage perverts that can't seem to help wanting to tie themselves up while wearing jfash, despite being women.

>> No.10393030
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10393030

>10 years experience in lolita
why do people looking like this think they have any business hosting advice panels? do they rly have no self awareness?

>> No.10393031

Had my hopes up for this event. At least tomorrow's schedule looks better.

>>10393016
Tuned in for the coord building panel until I saw it was hosted by a cosplayer.

>> No.10393032 [DELETED] 

>>10393020
>>10393025
Well if they’re okay with keeping a staff member who actively bullied and sexually harassed someone in her comm then why not?

>> No.10393033

>>10393030
What's wrong with her, other than her being fat?

>> No.10393036

>>10393020
when i read "how to self tie" i thought it'd be a panel on tying your own waist ties while wearing them or in nicer configurations or something baka

>> No.10393037

Lily of the Valley seems to have hosted the best panel so far. Hopefully things pick up though.

>> No.10393044

>>10393033
real bad alterations or wearing replica. shit coord regardless.

>> No.10393048

>>10393033
Her petticoat is made of her flesh.

>> No.10393049

>>10393031
Wasn’t that the cosplayer who kept spamming lolita groups with that obnoxious Marie Antoinette cosplay? I also immediately tuned out when I saw it was a cosplayer.

>> No.10393051

>>10393031
The whole thing has been max cringe so far.

>> No.10393059

>>10393020
Yeah it's hard to tell people it's not a fetish when this shit keeps showing up.

>> No.10393063

>>10393049
That's the one.

>>10393051
Yeah, even the art panel was a bit cringe when people were ree-ing about lesbians in chat

>> No.10393068

>>10393059
>>10393063
What does sexual orientation and kink have to do with wearing dresses? My fashion community isn’t their safe space.

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>>10393051
>>10393063
Did you not enjoy the LotV panel? I thought it was pleasant.

>> No.10393082

Anyone gonna watch the "fashion walk"?

>>10393070
I'll definitely give that a watch later since it seems to have gone over well, but I logged off after the art panel to chill and make dinner.

>> No.10393120

Any thoughts on the fashion show?
I feel like it could have gone better if there was a set amount of time for video clip and photo showing. It would have helped the commenters get a rhythm going and avoid any flubs.
There were some great looks and some not so great looks.

>> No.10393149

>>10393120
90% ita

>> No.10393153
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10393153

Can’t stop. Won’t stop. We love kink.

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10393155

>>10393153

>> No.10393157
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>>10393120

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>>10393157

>> No.10393162
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>>10393161

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>>10393020

>> No.10393171

>>10393166
Did she include the actual restrictive ties on hands or only the pentagram part? Both are pretty bad but if it's the first one, whoo boy.

>> No.10393177

>>10393171
I went in real fast and dove out. I didn’t want to stay long for that wreck.

>> No.10393180

>>10393166
My favorite part is
>this image can be easily found by googling shibari pentagram tie
That's not how you do presentations.
Also is there one normal sized person there?

>> No.10393181

>>10393161
oh god wendy no

>> No.10393183
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>>10393161
I can't believe this lardass is still kicking. She was the most annoying pos I've ever had to spend time with irl back in 2017.

>> No.10393185
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>>10393183
She's delusional thinks she's a top-tier lolita, best friends with Naturally Racist too.

>> No.10393186

>>10393183
Never before have I agreed more with random text in the background.

>> No.10393189

>>10393183
New meaning to head eating bow, looks like her giant head is eating it. Her size dwarfs the majesty of the headbow.

>> No.10393201

>>10393153
>>10393155
Wow that’s one ugly coord

>> No.10393624

>>10393166
Lmao can't wait to see this shit in new coords. What are the chances that the COF mods will keep them out?

>> No.10393634

>>10393033
Hair not styled properly, looks messy. Bracelets are normie beads & do not work with lolita. There is a lack of proper petticoat. The dress does not fit properly indicating replica; a very bad alteration; or just not willing to realize the dress does not fit even though they got into it. Dress is not ironed. It's a very low quality coord. Wearing brand, if that is brand and not a replica, does not automatically prevent one from being ita. This mess is ita.

>> No.10393635

It’s so depressing to see this genuinely revolting shit next to the inspo threads in this board, especially knowing that a lot of the people who post here probably look like this. Americans need to gtfo lolita, especially the devolved lardwhales from the garbage dumps that are most of the interior states like wherever this con was supposed to be held.

>> No.10393641

I tuned in for the selfie panel and it’s a cosplayer talking about making huge tacky props. Could they not find a lolita to run this panel?

>> No.10393648

>>10393641
I noticed this too. Half the panels are run by itas or isn't lolita related at all.

Are the panels at Paradiso similar to this online one? I don't want to attend this event ever if that's the case

>> No.10393649

>>10393641
Same cosplayer featured in yesterday's coord panel. Incredibly tone deaf.

>> No.10393669

Name of the event is very clever, you have to suffer through it.

>> No.10393674
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>>10393669

>> No.10393686

This panelist didn't prepare at all, did she?

>> No.10393714

>>10393648
they really only do the designer ones irl

>> No.10393718

>>10393714
That’s good. I did like the designer round table and Craft with Puvithel.

>> No.10393784

>>10393183
How can someone even become this fat?? This has to be one of the fattest lolita i've ever seen

>> No.10393786

>>10393718
i didn't she was terrible at explaining anything.>>10393784

>> No.10393809

>>10393786
>>10393718

I wrote this before the plus sized panel. I agree she did a good job. I also liked that she added the but about dieting. I hope she manages to make a positive change.

>> No.10393812

huh when will she stop being a gigantic turd then.....

>> No.10393891

This has the distinct feeling of being grandmas watching TV shopping channels for hours

>> No.10393895

>>10393812
>>10393891
Who are you talking to

>> No.10393984

>>10393686
>>10393812
>>10393895
Did you forget to reply to a comment? Wtf are you talking about

>> No.10393985

>>10392565
God I hope not. I don't want to travel to Kansas City for nothing.

>> No.10393989

>>10393016
Damn I wish I had tuned it. I hate cis males and love lesbians.

>> No.10393990

>>10393020
>>10393025
I'm not into any fetishes but I agree with >>10393024 that sometimes it looks cool.
I don't know what it is with 4chan blue boards but everyone always acts like they're super moral and they wouldn't be caught dead talking about sex and would never admit to enjoying. Instead, everyone treats it like some demonized shit that should be kept behind closed doors when it's perfectly normal.

I'm not into any fetishes but I can still enjoy the aesthetic appeal of including harnesses in alt fashion or even ropes shibari. I bought shibari tights from CherryCheezy back when she still did apparel cause I thought they were cute as fuck.

It just feels like such a bandwagon type meme to hate on this stuff but I do understand that some people don't like it in lolita because that makes it looks more like a fetish to normies.
But I have seen girls wearing no fetish gear get accused of fetish shit by normies so even if you don't include that stuff in the fashion - normies are still going to think it's sexual no matter what you do because they're fucking normie and they don't get it in the first place.

>> No.10393991

>>10393201
you can't even see it in the blur...

>> No.10393992

>>10393635
>interior states
you mean flyover

>> No.10393995 [DELETED] 

>>10393991
No blouse, Claire’s headdress, shoehorning black, clearly nothing done to the hair and the face mask indoors is probably to cover up the fact she didn’t wear makeup. Yeah it’s ita. Why bother putting anything on at all if you’re not going to try your best?

>> No.10393998

>>10393991
Can you out your glasses on? There’s no blouse, shitty cheap Claire’s accessory for a headdress, no attempt at hair or makeup which is painfully obvious by her wearing a face mask indoors. Sorry you got posted, I hope your pole skills are better than your coords

>> No.10393999

>>10393990
I don't have a problem with it in other j fashions, but I don't like it in lolita.

>> No.10394002

>>10393999
That just sounds like a preference then

>> No.10394003

>>10393998
>Sorry you got posted
oh fuck off. Such a typical fucking reply from an obviously assblasted tard.
I'm not defending her outfit, I was commenting on how blurry it is.
Not wearing a blouse is fine sometimes. I can't sse anything else and your description is bullshit compared to what is shown in those poorly taken screen caps.
Get over yourself, cunt.

>> No.10394017

>>10394002
It's hard to convince people that lolita isn't a fetish if people start wearing this often with lolita.

>> No.10394021

>>10394017
I know but did you read what I said in >>10393990 ?

Normies think it's sexual even with out that stuff. You're never going to make it so that doesn't happen.

>> No.10394024

I closed out of the tea party stream after five minutes. The girl hosting it could barely form a coherent sentence and was putting me to sleep

>> No.10394025

>>10394003
Wow angry ita is angry

>> No.10394028
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>>10394025
Yea because you're a brain dead meme poster.

>> No.10394054

>>10393990
Again. Keep your kink and sexual preferences out of our fashion community. Lolita was made to not be sexual so just do us all a favor and drink bleach.

>> No.10394056 [DELETED] 
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Rich that this total witch is out here preaching about fat liberation and harassment online, as if she isn’t the queen. Too bad the chat comments got wiped.

>> No.10394089

Can anybody confirm if there has been a single non-fat person featured?

>> No.10394092

>>10394054
You don't know how to read!!

>>10393990
>I'm not into any fetishes
I'm extremely vanilla compared to most girls in my comm actually.

>> No.10394093

>>10394092
Why did you even bother to defend yourself. Your anonymous honor was not tainted lol

>> No.10394094

>>10394054
God can this meme fucking die. It’s an alternative fashion, stop trying to make normies like you. I personally think shibari in lolita is cringe because it will fuck up the silhouette, but no amount of screaming at every remotely sexual thing that comes near the fashion, particularly the goth side, will make normies love you. Ever. They will always think you are a freak. Accept it and move on.

>> No.10394097

>>10394054
>drink bleach
oh god not this HWC tier shit again

>> No.10394101

>>10394093
Christ almight, how fucking dumb are you that you think someone responding to another anon is defending.
The anon clearly didn't read. I felt the need to point that out.
I don't give a fuck what you or any other anon thinks of me. Most of this place is fucking larpers anyway.

>> No.10394103

>>10394094
>They will always think you are a freak. Accept it and move on.
This

>> No.10394121

>>10394089
The designers Taylor, Halley, and Puvithel

>> No.10394136

>>10394121
Haha...

>> No.10394137

>>10393063
Why were they reeeing about lesbians?

>> No.10394238
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They let cleavage cow host a panel.

>> No.10394240

>>10394238
>what have i become, my dearest friend

>> No.10394272

>>10394238
aw how horrible of them to be inclusive like that

>> No.10394360

>>10394272
I wouldn't say it's a problem with inclusivityhere, she's just clearly not wearing lolita. She's wearing lolita dresses but turning them into kawaii cleavage vessels. Plus size =/= ita, but come on. She's not it.

They were also complaining about a cosplayer hosting multiple panels too, so I guess that wasn't respectful to cosplayers either. When will cosplayers finally get a convention?

Why was it so hard for paradiso to vet panelists for this? Is it elitist to ask for lolita panelists at a j-fashion oriented convention?

>> No.10394373

>>10394238
No problem with her and the previous girl's panels in principle, but did we really need 2+ hours of plus-size content one after another? What weird planning.

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>>10394238
Did you see her comments in the Discord afterwards?

>> No.10394441
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>>10394360
>She's wearing lolita dresses but turning them into kawaii cleavage vessels
If someone has big titties, they're going to have cleavage in some dresses.
She's really fat but still. She is wearing a lolita dress and the only truly ita thing happening in that photo/screencap is that her strap is falling down.
Here's a girl who isn't even trying to have cleavage but it still happened.

>> No.10394443

>>10394433
I don't think there's anything wrong with what she said.

>> No.10394568
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>>10394433
>>10394443
funny she is going on like this considering she’s fatfobic and bullies anyone not as fat as herself.

>>10394441
Some cleavage

>> No.10394572

>>10394568
Yes anon, she has big titties. Big titties result in cleavage.
Also can you post where she acts all fatphobic at people?

>> No.10394575

>>10394568
Jesus, she looks so vile. But she looks worse in lolita than she would in almost anything else. Why do these cows have to ruin dresses made for flat chested Asians when they would look 10x better in rockabilly or ModCloth or all the other things femme fat girls wear with relative success
I think that’s a Millefleurs dress in the middle, and the violence she’s doing it makes me really sad, especially since I’m sure she’ll later sell it as “barely worn.”

>> No.10394578

>>10394572
If you're her friend you'll stop wking, it'll only make things worse.

>> No.10394592

>>10394578
I'm not her friend and I'm not white knighting.
I'm looking to see posts of her being fat phobic though because that would be some IHOP chan tier shit.

>> No.10394593

>>10394572
I know plenty of fat lolitas that don't have cleavage spilling out everywhere. How hard is it to wear a blouse???

>> No.10394594

>>10394575
>. Why do these cows have to ruin dresses made for flat chested Asians when they would look 10x better in rockabilly or ModCloth or all the other things femme fat girls wear with relative success
Because they don't want to wear rockabilly or ModCloth, how hard is that to understand?

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>>10394593
Me too anon but that still doesn't make cleavage some demonized shit.
That's just a cgl thing.

>> No.10394598

>>10394595
Since when were people okay with cleavage?

>> No.10394601

>>10394598
People outside of cgl who wear lolita.

>> No.10394620

>>10394594
If they want to wear brand that bad, they should have the willpower to fit into it.

>> No.10394622

>>10394598
>people
*larping men, delusional fats and very vocal itas

>> No.10394626

>>10394433
God I can't wait till the haes shit ends. What does this even have to do with paradiso?

>> No.10394631

>>10394620
Or just buy something their size if they can't be bothered to loose weight.

>> No.10394638

>>10393990
>bandwagon type meme to hate on literal degeneracy
ok snowflake

>> No.10394640

>>10394094
Nayrt but I don't want kink to be part of the community because I simply do not consent to seeing this shit or worse, be seen with someone wearing obvious fetish gear in public. It's not always about "but think of the children!! think of the normies assuming it's a sex thing!!" I just don't like fetishes and don't give a shit what normies think period.

>>10394433
>fat liberation
Good lord this bitch makes it sound like it's some revolutionary act akin to the struggle against racism, so stunning and brave

>> No.10394644

>>10394572
There were others openly complaining about the way she treated them at cons based on their weight. She trash talks anyone that isn’t as big as herself or bigger saying they aren’t plussized if they aren’t her same size.
Plenty of fat people wear this fashion without having their tits nearly falling out of a dress. She sexualizes lolita and sets bad examples for other plussizes in the fashion.

>> No.10394647

>>10394360
beca Paradiso staff doesn’t care unless you suck up to them.

>> No.10394654

>>10393185
Calling out bullshit, those two hate each other.

>> No.10394660

>>10394017
Only small brained retards feel the need to explain their clothes to others. It's an ita mentality to be so damn submissive and weak, to whine and cry to everyone who cast judgement on you in the street; "No, I swear, it's not about the book"
Who cares? Real lolitas don't need the acceptance of the herd. Every time you waste air defending yourself, every time you've gotten red in the face and flustered at the notion of sin, some Karen has already taken your picture to laugh at. And real lolitas are laughing at you along with her.

>> No.10394679

>>10394640
This. I don’t want to see kink shit. I do not consent to people exposing me to their fetishes. Whether normies think we’re weird or not is completely irrelevant to this. Most people don’t join an alt fashion community to hear about other members’ sex lives, and mocking people for trying to set boundaries is dodgy as fuck.

>> No.10394681

>>10394433
This girl is a bully herself, I can't believe people are eating this shit up. It sounds so forced and in-genuine.

>> No.10394688

>>10394654
Spill? Since when?

>> No.10394757

>>10394688
Since Naturally Racist bullied one of her friends.

>> No.10394760

>>10394660
>Real lolitas do x
Ok.

So where do we draw the line, then? Ddlg? Sissies?

>> No.10394770

>>10394760
Yes? How is that hard?

If you want people to like you wear Marc Jacobs S/S 2020

>> No.10394793

>>10394647
This. Paradiso head staff is horrible. There’s a reason why their “volunteer” staff change every year. If you don’t suck their inverted dicks they will ban you.

>> No.10394833

>>10394647
>>10394793
How so?

>> No.10394848

>>10393036
what was it then?

>> No.10394850

>>10393036
>>10394848
>oops, learned to read.

>> No.10394866

>>10394638
>snowflake
How the fuck does that shit even apply in this conversation?

>> No.10394881

>>10394003
you posted cringe

>> No.10394882

>>10394881
Cringe is so old anon, get with it

>> No.10394889

>>10394601
>k larper
no one thinks cleavage and lolita are okay.

>> No.10394896

>>10394889
No one in my comm cares about that shit. Keep living your non cleavage dreams in your cgl echochamber.

>> No.10394904

>>10394896
Where

>> No.10394912

>>10394896
Post comm

>> No.10394915

>>10394904
>>10394912
I'm not getting kicked out of my comm to prove you wrong.
This is some sad bait.

>> No.10394949

>>10394681
This. She doesn’t care about the visibility of fat or plus size lolitas. She only puts on this show to hide what a nasty person she actually is and gain attention. You preach messages of self love, acceptance, and confidence when you actively bully other people.

>> No.10394960

>>10394896
Your comm must be full of other fat itas to think cleavage is appropriate in a fashion centered around not looking sexual

>> No.10394971

>>10394896
What is wrong with your comm?

>> No.10394973

>>10394949
I'm glad I'm not alone in this. She's a snake and a detrimental member to the community, I avoid her at all cost.

>> No.10394974

>>10394896
>cgl echochamber
You get the same opinion on literally any other lolita online space. Please stop larping, this is embarassing.

>> No.10395009

>>10394973
Are you part of her local comm, too I’m assuming? I liked her at first till I found out she was telling her friends mine and other members personal business.

>> No.10395033

>>10395009
Not that anon, but can confirm she’s a giant gaping cunt.

>> No.10395164

>>10395009
didn’t she abuse someone’s cat?

>> No.10395168

>>10394433
"Broadens your perspective on beauty, taste.." NO! Overeating is an eating disorder. Eating to the point of putting yourself at medical risk and early death is not beautiful. That's a disorder. People need training, counseling, surgery. None of that is beautiful.

>> No.10395206

>>10393157
Literally a special needs child from the early 90s
If you read this and that was you, you should be god damn ashamed, don't do this again

>> No.10395208

Paradiso is shit
It was shit last year, it's shit this year, it'll be shit next year
I knew the people who organized it last year, I know the people who did it this year
The midwest is a lost cause
I've left every single comm I've ever joined because for some reason these fat, fat girls cannot dress themselves.
They are even more embarrassing to be seen with in normie fashion than in lolita
Comm leaders should not be allowed to buy taobao blouses off of ebay, shit on you for openly admitting that you post on cgl, and then you find that same bitch on cgl later saying literally word for word exactly something she said at the bar after the con last year
Fat as hell and poorly dressed hypocrite with a foul attitude and no sense
Call me out, I don't care anymore

>> No.10395221

>>10395208
sounds like a fatty really hurt your feelings

>> No.10395226

>>10395221
Nope, a fatty really pissed me off

>> No.10395228

>>10395208
Just get out of the Midwest and leave the dregs behind like every other vaguely non-worthless person ever born there.

>> No.10395244

>>10395228
this. moving out of the midwest was the best decision i ever made.

>> No.10395257

>>10395244
I don't understand. Aren't there going to be fat people in any state of the USA?

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>>10395228
>>10395244

>> No.10395273

>>10395257
not like there are in the midwest. that area is also pretty cursed in general.

>> No.10395283

>>10394960
Fucking retard, cleavage isn't sexual unless you're a thirsty scrote.

>>10394974
>online
Yeah, where a lot of the larping happens. I'm not sure if you noticed but there are a lot discussions about gatekeeping going around these days and it's because online spaces are douchey over dumb shit like cleavage.

>> No.10395361

>>10395208
As a non-American, it often seems like the hamplanets of the midwest take a central role in the US lolita community on a national level (shit like Paradiso, etc). Why is that? As you say, they almost never look good and their attitudes are often even worse.

>> No.10395369

>>10395361
Since America has so much space with basically different cultures in some areas, I can't speak for everyone, but in the midwest, you get beaten down by the hamplanet types in grade school
I don't know what they let seep into the water out here, but the most aggressive people we have are fat, dirty-blonde, apartment dwellers, I think the kids call them "Karens"
We get so used to having to kowtow to them and their little hitlers in school, you can't fight them, they just ree until they get their way and their pettiness seems to just fucking compel them to seek revenge
You spend your whole life out here just trying to avoid these shows to the point that outsiders, like people with niche fashion interests, just fucking give up and leave
You have to let these fucking heifers do what they want or they will literally only make it worse
So anyone who disagrees with them or runs them the wrong way, like someone who isn't colorblind or who could afford brand, just gets destroyed
So anyone with any god damn talent just drops out and stays home because there's no fucking point to anything when the crab bucket is this full and this angry and stupid
The midwest has an unspoken about hikikomori problem, which of course goes well beyond lolita, but also obviously has a disproportionate effect on niche people

tl;dr: The midwest is an unstoppable crab bucket and the crabs are all fat and wearing costume satin

>> No.10395370

>>10395283
Kek you mean like yours? It's the same 3 cringy itas shitting up every thread on the main page for the past 4 or so days. Of course no one will tell you you look like a hooker on halloween in your face.

>> No.10395398

>>10395369
What in the flying fuck did I read

>> No.10395522

>>10395361

Because 2/3 of Americans are overweight and 2/5 are obese.

Honestly it just boils down to this is the new standard and norm. There's a lot of media hype about fat people getting the shaft and I can imagine it happens but actually it's way more popular to think if you don't have "meat on your bones" that there is something wrong with you.

>> No.10395558

>>10395361
They want any kind of positive attention and buying expensive dresses and talking with an UWU voice is an easier way to do it than inventing a perpetual motion machine or loosing a ton of weight.

>> No.10395571

After seeing this virtual shitshow I'll never go to Paradiso

>> No.10395573

>>10395361
people in the cities have better things to do. Also convention spaces in big cities are inaccessible financially (or honestly too large) for lolita programming.

>> No.10395647

>>10395208
this

>> No.10395649

>>10395164
She's killed multiple cats. Begs people for money to pay vet bills and buys burando.

>> No.10395657

Paradiso is and has always been an embarrassment to the lolita community. Whatever paradiso thought we needed, this was never it. Hopefully this is the last year we have to hear about this joke.

>> No.10395659

>>10395398
Nonfiction

>> No.10395696

>>10395649
what the fuck? is she neglectful or an active cat murderer?

>> No.10395712

>>10395696
She's fat so I assume it's out of neglect like those fat ladies on hoarders.

>> No.10395717

>>10395361
The few who have/make enough money in the midwest to look good don't have the time or energy.

>> No.10395721

>>10395696
neglect. she refused to get medical care for her sick cats so she had them put down then made a gofundme for the bills then went and bought herself shit and are out at restaurants

>> No.10395732

>>10395657
It always looked so fun and elegant. I've never been but really wanted to go this year. Why is it an embarrassment? Maybe talk me out of it so I don't get FOMO.

>> No.10395734

>>10395732
I've been going for three years now, it honestly is a blast. I don't know what CGLs problem is with fun, but it's worth flying to Kansas City for.

>> No.10395736

>>10395732
Last year was my first year and I had a great time. It was nice to go to an event where jfashion was a focus and not a side event. There are so many good ones I'd like to do in Europe but it was nice to have one closer.

>> No.10395746

>>10395734
I’m hoping to go, too. The venues look stunning and it seems like the brand panels aren’t bad. I’d also be interested in just chilling with other lolitas during craft-alongs.

>> No.10395751

>>10392542
I missed it because I'm dumb af. Can we watch it somewhere now? There's only a couple of the panels on Twitch. Where are the others?

>> No.10395759

>>10395732
>>10395734
>>10395736
>>10395746
Is Paradiso staff really so desperate to make up for the virtual shit show they have to wk their own event? It was bad enough staff running the event were refusing to budge on postponing the IRL event until forced by the venue bc money is more important than peoples safety.

>> No.10395764

>>10395721
What a fucking monster.

>> No.10395766

>>10395759
I’m not a staff member, anon. Maybe, JUST MAYBE, people like things you don’t?
Paradiso, like everything else this year, probably won’t happen. It’s still nice to look forward to things.

>> No.10395775

I thought Paradiso was that one event last year where you people were paying like $500 for the ticket and to get there and then you were met with the "high tea" where there were like MnM's in a styrofoam plate? Was that it, or was that another event?

>> No.10395776

>>10395775
No, that was Paradiso alright
Hope everyone enjoyed the diarrhea chia pudding

>> No.10395782

How was the lifestyle panel?

>> No.10395789

>>10395775
That was Cakes and Couture in Florida.

>> No.10395797

>>10395776
>>10395789
Ok who's lying

>> No.10395799

>>10395797
My bad, paradiso had foam plates though and very little food, all of it was bad or outright ugly except for the single fruit skewer we each got

>> No.10395800

>>10395797
Paradiso had the nasty chia pudding and the one underage trying to buy a VIP ticket after selling off their VIP ticket.
Cakes and Couture had MMs on a stryofoam plate.

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>>10395797
This is cakes and couture. The other anon is either making things or have a very bad memory. The catering was definitely a miss at Paradiso, but all plates and bowls were ceramic, and everything was provided and served by a catering company and not packaged food at walmart like C&C.

>> No.10395805

>>10395800
I'm still fucking dead over that, MBee is fucking nuts

>> No.10395806

>>10395804
When the fuck did you get muffins and scones??? I never got a fucking muffin and scone fuck
Agree about the plates not being foam though, but that's probably easy to misremember

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>>10395806
I dunno how anyone can forget the satisfying image of all those servers carrying back trays of those full uneaten disgusting pudding cups from the tables. It wouldn't have been nearly as good if they were styrofoam.

>> No.10395838

>>10395811
This is fair

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>>10394433
She’s a shit artist that overcharges for copy pasting everything in her “work” too.

>> No.10395959

>>10394644
So no actually proof then?

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10395991

This is a real jfash virtual line up:

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>>10395991
Event is Ursa Major. I bet there won’t be titties, strippers, bondage or a les yelling about cis males. Stay classy.

>> No.10395999

>>10395993
too bad puvithel is there. also i worry the kitsuke shit will be cringe if it's by a westerner i'd rather get kitsuke advice from japanese pros.

>> No.10396023

>>10395804
ha! hilarious! thanks anon, sorry for misremembering. But if Paradiso is anything like this, then it's definitely not worth it. And it kind of worked as a virtual event, anyway.

>> No.10396025

>>10395999
I think the owner of the black ribbon is half Japanese and pretty knowledgeable on kitsuke though.

>> No.10396038

>>10396023
Nah. Paradiso wasn't anything like the cakes and couture disaster, and they already prepublished this year's menu so I'm sure it will be fine. The venue last year's was beautiful, and same goes for this year. Price of day 2 isn't much more than a fancy high tea event booked at a nice place you can do with any comm and you get a lot more than just food.

>> No.10396070

>>10394240
topninkek

>> No.10396081

>>10395759
I'm also not a staff member but this year was supposed to be the first year I got to go to a really big event. I was really looking forward to it and I hope I still get to go even if I have keep rescheduling my plane ticket.

People like you confuse me.

>> No.10396200

>>10395993
Where is this going to be streamed? I need links

>> No.10396205

>>10395933
God damn it looks like she's masturbating with that broomstick

>> No.10396262

>>10396200
I’m not going to spoon feed you. Go search for it on Facebook.

>> No.10396316

>>10396200 here's the link
/events/ 945606625895702/

>>10396205
I honestly thought this was a joke picture with a strap on at first and then i noticed it was a broom.

>> No.10396405

>>10395959
It was at an event dipshit. you think people just casually carry around tape recorders? multiple people had complaints of her doing this. quit wking yourself and accept that you’re a shit person.

>> No.10396414

>>10395805
her being shunned by everyone else at the VIP table was so choice

>> No.10396444

>>10396414
>so choice
anon, we are kindred spirits

>> No.10396448

>>10394757
I need to know who Naturally Racist is. I'm not up to date on local-ish drama.

>> No.10396450

Why are half the people in this thread raging eurofags who don’t even know there’s a difference between Florida and the Midwest? We get it. You hate the US. But most people I know who have gone to Paradiso said it was nice and not NEARLY the disaster that was C&C

>> No.10396452

>>10396450
Idiots like this are the reason why rufflecon ended and they will be the same idiots to complain that there is no lolita conventions (despite hosting none themselves)

>> No.10396764

>>10396450
It looks like most people bitching about the midwest in this thread are from the midwest though
which is really just very sad

>> No.10396772

>>10396450
What makes you think the majority people here posting are eurofags?

>> No.10396886

>>10396414
>>10395805
I only saw the fiasco over the ticket on the FB groups but didn't get to see what happened at the VIP table. Any more tea to spill there?

>> No.10396893

>>10396764
What’s sad is the unfixable state of the region.

>> No.10396953

>>10396025
This is correct as a member of the same con as her.

>> No.10397027

>>10396886
not really. basically nobody talked to her at all

>> No.10397054

>>10396448
Naturally Cute, irrelevant wanna be model that's known to bully people.

>> No.10397887

>>10395759
From what I gather, It’s not necessarily that money is more important. If they cancel the event on their own volition, they forfeit all deposits paid and will likely never get that money back. It’s the same for any and all events that had been scheduled within the past 2 months and likely for the rest of the summer. Conferences, weddings, etc. you’re kinda forced into playing the waiting game with the venue or say peace to your tens of thousands of dollars. Not unless event insurance explicitly covered a global pandemic before the outbreak happened.

>> No.10397949

>>10397887
Unironically this, paradiso is shit but global pandemic is honestly a decent excuse for not being sure what to do, people are getting laid off and shit, it's a weird time

>> No.10397957

>>10397887
Actually, event contracts typically give between 2 ~ 6 weeks to give notice for changes or make other arrangements. People everywhere were having to cancel or postpone much more expensive events such as weddings and were able to get their deposits back or not have lost them if they chose to postpone. They were aware bigger events were cancelling or postponing left and right but staff kept insisting they were going through with having it despite so many attendees asking whether they were going to be refunded or not. They stalled and let it drag out until the venue told them they had to postpone instead of being responsible and reaching out to the venue and others to make future arrangements. If more costly events could do it then there’s no reason Paradiso couldn’t have done it instead of waiting till the last minute.

>> No.10398170

>>10397957
Interesting. Well shows how much I know. Thanks for the dialogue

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>>10394238
For someone who doesn’t use, endorse , or tolerate anon sites you sure do post about them alot.

>> No.10398779

>>10398768
OMG IS THAT CAT DEAD?!

>> No.10398781

>>10398779
Looks like its sleeping

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>>10398768

>> No.10399360

>>10396772
not them but it's a thing on other boards for people not from the US to just non stop go on and on about the US when they can't even tell the states apart or know which is which.
hence the "flyover" meme

>> No.10399585

>>10399360
To be fair, most people from the US think similarly of other countries. I've never met one that knew anything about provinces or regions from other countries.

>> No.10399888

>>10399585
Yea but I haven't really seen a prevalence of people in the US using memes like "flyover" incorrectly. It's usually a good sign the person isn't from the US and that they don't know what they're talking about because they only know US stereotypes.

>> No.10400596

>>10398768
It would be good for her to stop focusing so much on defending herself by trying to shit on ppl who post here (esp since she lurks here) it’s just really really unhealthy. Whiny posts with claims about being above it all and that everyone else is mentally ill is sociopathic and just feeds the trolls

>> No.10400635

>>10397887
>>10397949
>>10397957
In the event of a pandemic there should be a Force Majeure clause in the contract to be able get out of said contract with out any or minimal financial repercussions.
Events need to read their contracts or go over them with a lawyer that specializes in hospitality law.

>> No.10400639

>>10399888
>>10399360
no one is using it incorrectly. most states in the midwest are flyover states.

>> No.10400661

>>10399888

Please stop trying to convince yourselves missouri isn't a flyover state. it literally is.

>> No.10400667

>>10400639
>>10400661
does anon even know what a flyover state is?

>> No.10400753

>>10400639
>>10400661
Holy shit, can you not fucking read?
I said on OTHER BOARDS.
I wasn't talking about where Paradiso is. Yes. Missouri is in the midwest so it's a fly over state.

I was talking about the anons who aren't from here who use the term incorrectly.

Fucking learn how to read a damn thread before you go off on people.

Holy fucking hell.

And no. I will not calm down. Yes I'm mad. You're amazingly stupid.

>> No.10400762

>>10400635
we're just about 10 weeks away from the event. If it doesn't cancel, how will social distancing be implemented? like logistically it won't make much sense. and having to wear a mask on top of a coord in the middle of KC summer will be interesting to say the least. it was humid af even last year.

>> No.10400771

>>10400753
stop being a shitty crossposter and maybe you wouldn't throw a tantrum.

>> No.10400778

>>10400771
Are you bragging about being one of those chicks that just comes to cgl and doesn't do anything else on this site?
You're the fucking tourist. You leave. Fucking newfag.

Some of us have interests outside of lolita.

>> No.10400780

>>10400762
I don't live anywhere near KC but it's pretty humid where I live during this time of year and I hate wearing a mask outside to walk around. But indoors it's not as bad.

Gonna suck to wear make up those days, that's for sure.

>> No.10401432

>>10400596
this.
it’s easy to see she has a disgusting sense of self importance when in front of a computer screen. the girl needs major help from a therapist.

>> No.10401485

>>10400762
I can’t imagine a tea party is going to be very socially distant, unless they serve it in cups with lids.

>> No.10401717

>>10394441
>If someone has big titties, they're going to have cleavage in some dresses.
Unless your tits somehow cover your face, you don't need to expose your cleavage. We have blouses for a reason. And if you're wearing an OP that exposes your cleavage, get one that properly covers you up instead of cramming yourself into it anyway. Cleavage is literally always avoidable.

>> No.10401725

>>10401717
seriously this. most dresses are cut in a way you have to TRY to get cleavage to show. i'm a 98cm bust 71cm underbust and i have never experienced this.

>> No.10401729

>>10396038
>fancy high tea
jsyk, high tea isn't fancy. you're thinking of "afternoon tea".

>> No.10401782

>>10394441
high collar and high neck blouses exist but ok dressing to suit your body type doesn’t matter if you’re a fat slob I guess

>> No.10401783

>>10401725
>98cm bust
That's not even that big. Shut up.

>> No.10401786

>>10401783
It is in lolita.

>> No.10401793

>>10401783
Being whatever landwhale size you are doesn't preclude you from covering your udders. It's extremely easy to do with blouses unless you're actively trying to show them.

>> No.10401797

>>10401793
>covering your udders
No one's going to listen to you if you talk this way about it.
It's already been discussed to death up thread but I'm in a comm where no one gives a shit about this dumb ass cgl tier rule.

>> No.10401806

>>10401797
Not listening won't make you less ita.
"No cleavage" is one of the most basic rules in lolita, regardless of size. Both your comm and you must be (literally) giant itas. It's embarrassing how ignorant you are about the fashion.

>> No.10401809

>>10401797
oh it's you.

>> No.10401828

>>10401797
>cgl tier rule
Nah it's not just cgl, I'm pretty sure you're just in a comm full of itas.

>> No.10401953

>>10401806
>>10401828
typical cgl responses too.
No, my comm isn't full of itas. You can believe whatever you want but there are a lot of great looking girls in my comm who don't give a fuck about cleavage.
I think it's more of a culture thing - where I live most people don't care about that unless they're a horny teenage boy.

Like the fact that anons here think showing cleavage is being sexy is such a male thing to do.

>> No.10402215

>>10394238
the Jim Saroka of lolita

>> No.10402246

>>10401953
>Won't name comm, because they're afraid of "being outed" with no identifying information
>Apparently everyone in this mythical comm shows cleavage, despite there being no evidence of this on the internet
begone LARPer

>> No.10402247

>>10402246
Not a Larper and yea, it would be fucking stupid to mention what comm I'm in on cgl.

>> No.10402249

>>10402247
is it the cracker barrel comm

>> No.10402290

Everyone be on the lookout for this busty cleavage comm. Shouldn't be too hard to find.

I just imagine one of those giant OTT tea party group photos with Misako kneeling in the front center, holding up peace signs, surrounded by heaving busoms.

>> No.10402292

>>10402290
our photos are private because we know about cunty gulls.
Also we vet our members so fuck off stupid. Anyone who tried to start that kind of drama has already been kicked from our comm.

>> No.10402383

>>10402290
I have a feeling anon is lying and probably is the fat girl showing cleavage just making excuses for herself bc her comm members are too polite to say she looks like fetishy trash to her face.

>> No.10402525

>>10402290

she probably thinks she and her three heffer friends are hot shit but in reality the comm just barely tolerates their ita asses.

>> No.10402599

>>10401953
cleavage is inherently sexual and lolita is inherently nonsexual. mixing the two is not a good idea

>> No.10403942

Just filled out the feedback form.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSccgw3pXBsyKCxL2da5C-KTalSjAyyTnqqEYAEy6UHTHSUd6Q/viewform

>> No.10403973

>>10402215
Nah bro that’s Amberlynn Reid of lolita.

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>>10398768
She wakes up each day and decides which group of marginalized people she wants to be part of it. So fucking gross. Can’t be around her at meets I just avoid her completely.

>> No.10404538

>>10404508
So how many cleavage lolitas are a part of your comm

>> No.10404546

>>10404538
She’s the only one.

>> No.10404559

>>10402599
>cleavage is inherently sexual
only if you're a dumb man

>> No.10404560

>>10402247
No, it wouldn't. It would just prove that what you're saying isn't complete bullshit. I have never seen a comm with women mostly showing cleavage.

>> No.10404561

>>10402383
>>10402525
wrong and you don't even need to be fat to have cleavage

>> No.10404563

>>10402292
>our photos are private because we know about cunty gulls.
So no one in your comm has an instagram where they post photos of meets? You are so obviously lying that it's embarrassing.

>> No.10404564

>>10404559
Or if you know literally anything about how society works. You can screech "free the nipple" all you want, but people will still find them sexual.

>> No.10404644

>>10404561
Nobody said that but ok senpai

>> No.10404733

>>10404561
Well, who else in SOL has their tits hanging out all the time?

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That’s embarrassing.

>> No.10406802

>>10406744
Disgusting. Paradiso staff think this is ok how?

>> No.10406829

>>10406802
Wait I'm confused - is this seller on Paradiso staff wtf??

>> No.10406837

>>10406744
why is this in this thread? Just post in feels if youre gonna post garbage

>> No.10407024

>>10406829
Yes they are Paradiso staff. It seems like Paradiso staff also approved it being a donation too.

>> No.10407030

>>10406837

Because >>10407024

>> No.10407033

>>10407024
Wtf, they should just trash it. Besides, who would care about making a donation to that cause, but then buy a skirt with that print on it? Embarrassing. Shameful even.

>> No.10407051

>>10407024
Proof Paradiso approved it? Bc they've been posting pro-Black and pro-POC messages on their sm and need to be called out for supporting this

>> No.10408071

>>10407051
Are you stupid? She’s Paradiso staff and Paradiso staff run the KC Community all while circle jerking eachother. Quit trying to hard to wk your own shitty con and reporting anyone posting anything negative about it.

>> No.10408153

>>10408071
Nayrt but you really can't blame the con staff in its entirety for her actions. I doubt they went out of their way to "approve" this, even if their community is kinda circle-jerky

>> No.10409524

>>10406802
>>10407033
Fuck paradiso; but why exactly is it disgusting for a seller to disclose what they'll use the money on? She would have done the same thing with it if she hadn't disclosed that, frankly I would rather know
There's bound to be some retard who thinks there's hope for this shitshow, just don't buy it if that retard isn't you

>> No.10409534

>>10408153
You can. No doubt she asked the others if it was ok since they are all very close friends. None of them are very bright and make bad judgements, such as allowing pole dancing and bdsm related panels so I doubt this was any different.

>> No.10410261

Does anyone actually like Puvithel? Her quality seems cheap supplies form China to me. Nothing seems original. The moderately ok looking stuff is all collaborations with better artists. Her heart earring this I’ve seen the same heart gem stone glass crystal at Michaels the rest is a plastic heart around it. Doesn’t seem worth the price. Her heart purse looks very very thin too, more like a tote bag.

>> No.10410396

>>10410261
I personally am on the fence about the look of her necklaces. t I will be the first to admit that they are alike costume jewelry and only compliment opulent looks, but the colors are nice though! As for her bags, they are much bigger than brand bags and VERY sturdy. I was gifted one and ended up purchasing because they're proven reliable. I have used mine every day for a couple of years; they look brand new and are substantial in their construction, look, and carrying amount. idk I've been impressed.

>> No.10410397

>>10410396
RIP my dead brain. *purchasing a few more because...

>> No.10410431

>>10410396
You are not the first to admit lol others have said her newest necklaces look like children’s jewelry in the general thread, which I agree to

>> No.10410607

>>10410261
It’s all bad. Even her collab pins are atrocious and look cheap.

>> No.10410630

>>10409534
Based on the negative response she recieved on her personal post from one of the staff heads, I'd imagine she didn't talk with them first. But I also didn't realize they were all close friends so no idea. Maybe the staff head was just trying to save face since some people weren't so keen on her apology.

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>>10410630
Post proof it was said directly to her? Her personal post on it wasn’t even made till much later after the backlash including from editing it to say the money would be donated and the post was then deleted. I only seen another staff say something negative when it was posted by someone else in a group and didn’t include her username.

>> No.10410954

>>10410630
Post proof it was said directly to her? Her personal post on it wasn’t even made till much later after the backlash including from editing it to say the money would be donated. I only seen another staff say anything directly negative towards her when it was posted by someone else in a group and didn’t include her username. On her personal post seemed much softer towards her in their responses.

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>>10410954
Oh yikes well if the staff head changed her stance then that’s pretty shitty because she certainly appears to disagree here. Maybe to save face. I’ll admit I missed most of the immediate backlash so I didn’t see who did or did not participate. G’s apology left, staff heads comment on the right.

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>>10395369
>The midwest has an unspoken about hikikomori problem

sage for off topic, but this is the first time I've ever seen another person acknowledge that, so hi (You)