Lolita General - No money for burando edition

[Anonymous No.10392250]

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[Anonymous No.10392251]

Friendly reminder in light of the last thread: do not respond to male bait.

[Anonymous No.10392252]

Does anyone watch Moitie Diaries? Andrea does such a great job at modeling their products. I've found myself buying more from Moitie after seeing the items on stream. I really hope they'll restock the bat corset skirt!

[Anonymous No.10392279]

Has anyone bought from AtePie recently? Do they offer courier shipping like WW does now? I can't find anything on it but I also might be dumb and missing something.
>>10392252
I watch them and love them, but I always miss out when she's doing them live. I'm new to insta so I'm probably dumb but when I checked moitie's story last night, it said the next vid was in 16 hours and then 2 hours later it was posted and I missed out...
Also I feel bad for her that people repeatedly ask the same dumb shit about Mana being there, she seems annoyed with having to repeat herself for the millionth time about something that should be common sense.

[Anonymous No.10392287]

>>10392252
i've never watched it but i imagine it's not hard to make the clothes look better than the wunderwelt stock photos

[Anonymous No.10392307]

>>10392279
I bought something from them mid-April. They shipped via EMS, and it arrived in around 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.10392321]

>>10392307
I have two ems packages stuck in Japan (and two epackets), not moving for 3 weeks now... ems wasn't even suspended in my country, and services are saying it's only a week delay, so I guess I have bad luck. I was hoping for courier shipping because I wanted some things in time for the moitie teaparty.

[Anonymous No.10392326]

A set I had ordered two months ago finally arrived today, safe and sound! And another package of things I ordered two months ago is set to arrive on Monday. feels good

[Anonymous No.10392366]

>>10392279
Its the same time each time, so its about 10:30pm est. It only lasts about 10-15 min so thats probably why you miss it.

[Anonymous No.10392373]

>>10392326
With all the shipping delays going on, I wish people would include what shipping method they used, and what country they live in/what country the package was sent from. I want context so we can use information like this to estimate when our own packages might arrive.

[Anonymous No.10392461]

Since there's a few people in the ita thread talking about how dated all the lolita guides are, I was wondering what /cgl/ thinks a modern comprehensive guide for beginners should include. Not a video or mentorship group, but a static website or blog that lists everything a beginner should know in the year 2020. What would you want in a new guidebook?

[Anonymous No.10392463]

>>10392461
>what is lolita
>anatomy of a coord
>substyles
>explanation of meetups and local cons
>resources for tall lolitas, plus size lolitas, notes about brand fit
>explanation about why lolita is expensive and ways to afford it
>up to date list of brands (including indie)
>up to date list of places you can buy lolita (not the same as brands)
>actually well written (doesn’t have to be amazing but halfway decent; fyeahlolita is a good benchmark)
>links to resources like lolibrary
>no weird attempts to get newbs to come here. Some people will be put off of the entire fashion if you start with “go to /cgl/!!!” and I don’t blame them

[Anonymous No.10392467]

>>10392463
I agree with all this and would like to additionally request no "sassy humour" tone. Some people feel the need to bust out condescending jokes when they're teaching something, and it's so offputting and cringy. A purely informative tone is best. Please save the joking tone for personal blogs.

[Anonymous No.10392470]

>>10392461
Listen we already had cgl make a handbook and it was super bad. Lets not do that again

[Anonymous No.10392472]

>>10392467
God this. The /cgl/ references, bad writing, weird tangents about shit like “color seasons” and terrible example photos are all bad but the cringe tone of the lolita guidebook is really the worst part about sending it to people. It sounds like it was written by edgy 14 year olds and it is so embarrassing

[Anonymous No.10392473]

>>10392470
I think if one or two people just do it on their own with suggestions on what to include are fine. Just... god please do not do a collaborative thing

[Anonymous No.10392474]

>>10392279
I bought something last week and Japan isn't shipping to my country via EMS, so they will hold my package until it resumes. They don't offer other kinds of shipping.

[Anonymous No.10392475]

>>10392470
I wasn't trying to suggest /cgl/ actually do it, I was just trying to start a discussion. Like >>10392473 said though, it would be nice if someone who knew what they were talking about wrote one.

[Anonymous No.10392476]

>>10392475
I get the feeling that most lolitas who have been in the fashion for a while and arent itas don't really care about vague people who want to join the fashion. Like sure, youll get advice if you ask them directly, but I don't think anyone cares enough to make a legit handbook

[Anonymous No.10392486]

>>10392476
Some of us actually like the community aspect of lolita and would prefer the fashion to not die out or get incomprehensibly ita

[Anonymous No.10392494]

>>10392472
What lolita guidebook are you talking about? I don't think I've read it.

[Anonymous No.10392501]

>>10392476
Do people even need a handbook? There's a ton of outfit examples out there. One can just resort to full sets and safe combos for a while. At the end of the day you can't stop people from wearing ivory with white if that's what they aiming to.

[Anonymous No.10392505]

>>10392494
The lolita guide book on tumblr, under that name. It was made by /cgl/. It was a solid attempt and I love the search terms page, but overall the edgelord cgl attitude sours it a ton

[Anonymous No.10392507]

>>10392476
I've had people ask me in dms for advice before and I'm always down to answer questions and the like but I seriously couldn't be arsed to write a damn guidebook when there's still *so many* resources out there that still hold up pretty well despite their age. It just needs a bit of tweaking but honestly, trends change all the time.

[Anonymous No.10392509]

>>10392501
>One can just resort to full sets and safe combos for a while.
I think many newbies don't go for full sets because they don't want to drop that kind of money on something they're not sure they will stick with. Even pre-owned sets are more expensive than mixing and matching. I know when I started I bought used lucky pack skirts because it was the cheapest entry point. Once I tried it and commited, then I started buying new pieces.

[Anonymous No.10392515]

I'm kind of disappointed with the winning photos from the BABY x HaraPop stay at home twitter contest
>sigh. Should have known better than to expect Japanese people to not be xenophobes

[Anonymous No.10392516]

>>10392515
The coord contest was japanese only calm down

[Anonymous No.10392519]

>>10392516
Not that anon, but did they give a reason why the coord contest was Japanese only? I'm curious as to why foreigners wouldn't be allowed to win it.

[Anonymous No.10392522]

>>10392516
How to Enter

Follow both Baby, the Stars Shine Bright (@BABY_THE_STARS) and HarajukuPop (@HaraPopOfficial) on Twitter.

Tweet your entry and include the contest hashtag #お家でロリータProject.

Anyone with a Twitter account may enter. Overseas entries are welcome. Multiple entries per person allowed.

[Anonymous No.10392523]

>>10392515
that one with all the usakumyas was just a flex and honestly looked like a hoarder house

[Anonymous No.10392536]

LOLITAS AND SNEAKER HEADS ARE THE SAME THING

... I had to do some consumer reporting research on the sneaker re-sale market. Had to read a lot of shitty thread posts. They are us, we are them; it's the same kind of obsession.

[Anonymous No.10392551]

>>10392536
Ok I'll bite. How so?

[Anonymous No.10392552]

>>10392551
Nayrt, but literally every single fashion community that operates mostly on second-hand market and limited releases is the same as lolita.

[Anonymous No.10392554]

>>10392552
Agreed. I’ve seen women go psycho for lularoe leggings in rare prints the same way as us. Same kind of arguments about scalping VS supply and demand too. Same energy/aggression during releases haha. It’s fascinating!

[Anonymous No.10392569]

Why didn't these come in lavender? Pink makes sense, but no lavender? These are supposed to be for Chateau d'ecume, right? I just want lavender crews man.

[Anonymous No.10392580]

what are everyone's thoughts about rakuten global closing?

[Anonymous No.10392623]

>>10392373
The situation is unpredictable, so I understand why others don't give specifics. Here's my situation right now, in Canada (which doesn't have any shipping restrictions with Japan or China):
>Taobao order: shipped EMS Apr 8, first update Apr 9, arrived Apr 26, delivered Apr 27
>CC order: shipped epacket Apr 21, no update since (stuck on posting/collection update)
>WW order #1: shipped EMS Apr 27, arrival at outward office of exchange Apr 29, no update since
>Japonica order: shipped EMS Apr 28, arrival at outward office of exchange Apr 29, no update since
>WW order #2: shipped epacket May 1, no update since (stuck on "Arrival at outward office of exchange")

I'm waiting on zenmarket to send a courier package and I can update on that when I get it, I hope this helps a bit.

[Anonymous No.10392628]

>>10392580
The shipping was too high so no difference to me.

[Anonymous No.10392680]

>>10392519
>>10392522
You probably need a Japanese address for them to send a winning prize.

[Anonymous No.10392682]

>>10392461
Honestly, I don't think there's a need for updated guides. Things have remained largely the same and already been covered in a million "Newbie Guide" videos that every lolita who wants to dip their toes into Youtube/blogging has already done.

>>10392463
However, these would be worth doing because they're ever-changing:
>explanation of meetups and local cons
Not an explanation of what a meetup is because that's been done, but guides on long-running events and news on upcoming ones would be useful, since there's always new ones popping up.

>up to date list of brands (including indie)
>up to date list of places you can buy lolita (not the same as brands)
Same as above, always new ones popping up.

[Anonymous No.10392684]

I hate it whenever I see a lolita way too old or fat for this shit
>older than 22
>weighs more than 99lbs

this is just asking to be disgusting

[Anonymous No.10392685]

>>10392684
Oh, nbd but you missed the feels thread and the unpopular opinions thread. This is the general.

[Anonymous No.10392686]

>>10392680
The foreigner who won the art contest doesn't live in Japan. Nice excuse though.

[Anonymous No.10392695]

>>10392686
Yep. So the contest isn't xenophobic

[Anonymous No.10392699]

>>10392684
wow, what clever bait. you are so original and funny.

[Anonymous No.10392703]

>>10392580
Wow I was just checking up on Rakuten earlier today. This makes me really sad. I got most of my Prisila wigs from there and a lot of stickers.

Does this mean we can't buy from Tokyo Alice anymore..? I always messed around with the product URLs so I could order through the global site.

[Anonymous No.10392709]

>>10392580
>>10392703
To add to this, I drive by Rakuten's US headquarters like every week. I guess everyone there is getting laid off. I feel like whatever decision that was made was expedited by coronavirus. God I hate 2020.

[Anonymous No.10392710]

>>10392703
I always use a Tenso address to buy from Tokyo Alice and Violet Blue, you can still do that. Tokyo Alice had been showing up as empty on the global website for a long time, that I assumed they stopped shipping overseas a long time ago.

[Anonymous No.10392711]

>>10392709
usa rakuten is a different thing.

[Anonymous No.10392713]

>>10392685
this should be a general opinion tbf

[Anonymous No.10392717]

>>10392710
They accepted orders through the global site. Like I said, I had to manipulate the page URLs to get the products to show up, but it worked and I could order directly.
I've never used Tenso because it seemed like too much redirection. I'll probably wind up using an SS or even emailing Tokyo Alice to place an order (if they still accept that).

Alice Blue always seemed bugged out for me. Half the items never had any pictures even on the Japanese site. Am I doing something wrong?

>>10392711
I had no idea. What does Rakuten US do?

[Anonymous No.10392718]

>>10392710 #
They accepted orders through the global site. Like I said, I had to manipulate the page URLs to get the products to show up, but it worked and I could order directly.
I've never used Tenso because it seemed like too much redirection. I'll probably wind up using an SS or even emailing Tokyo Alice to place an order (if they still accept that).

Violet Blue always seemed bugged out for me. Half the items never had any pictures even on the Japanese site. Am I doing something wrong?

>>10392711 #
I had no idea. What does Rakuten US do?

[Anonymous No.10392721]

>>10392718
Rakuten bought Ebates iirc

[Anonymous No.10392728]

>>10392710
>>10392718
I'm stupid and looked closer at Tenso. It actually seems easier than I remember it being in the past and Violet Blue's pictures show up for me now versus two years ago. Do they even update anymore?

Looks like I'll just be getting a Tenso address in the future.

[Anonymous No.10392729]

>>10392710
You are a freakin idiot.

[Anonymous No.10392744]

>>10392505
>>10392472
It’s really tame and not that bad. I don’t see what’s “edgelord” about it.
The whole idea of the guide was that it was open sourced and open to being changed and evolving with the times, so there’s no sense in just abandoning it.

[Anonymous No.10392764]

Dear moitie, what the actual fuck

[Anonymous No.10392765]

>>10392764
Moitie for narutards

[Anonymous No.10392767]

>>10392764
When you take your brandwhore status really seriously

[Anonymous No.10392769]

>>10392744
"Edgelord" as in "too mean for my newfag heart". Don't forget, we're basically a fb group judging by /cgl/s current userbase.

[Anonymous No.10392771]

Does anyone have complete Otome no sewing book 12 scans. The only places that are selling it are asking for $200+ instead of the usual $15-30.

[Anonymous No.10392772]

>>10392744
"Edgelord" as in "I don't like that cgl came together and made it because I post on a board whose culture I actually hate". Don't forget, we're basically a fb group judging by /cgl/s current userbase.

[Anonymous No.10392773]

>>10392771
Buy the originals if there are no scans, I've never seen scalping on the same scale as with OnS scans.

[Anonymous No.10392775]

>>10392773
How is this business even allowed to exist when they are charging for every size for single piece from every OnS with such a high mark-up? This can't be legal

[Anonymous No.10392776]

>>10392580
I think that sadly, it makes sense. There's probably too much liability. Within Japan packages almost never get lost or damaged but sending stuff overseas is a crapshoot. Stuff just disappears, probably stolen most of the time, or some asshole throws it on your roof, in the mud, or your neighbor's manure pile often enough for it to get expensive for the seller to keep funding refunds for shit that never arrived or arrived horrible damaged because overseas delivery services are staffed by malicious swamp donkeys with room level IQ.

We get tales here often enough were the person supposed to deliver a tracked package says they did while the gull was watching her porch like a hawk for days in a row and the shitstain never showed up or blatantly did a drive by, and then sends the package back to were it came from, or just plain into the void, never to be seen again.

[Anonymous No.10392777]

>>10392764
Mana sama so kinky. Really, I bet he puts Mr.Yan to shame.

[Anonymous No.10392779]

>>10392775
Haha I just noticed that too the other day. Insane.

[Anonymous No.10392782]

>>10392775
Wtf, this is straight-up theft surely.

[Anonymous No.10392784]

>>10392773
I am trying to buy the original but book 12 is scalped up to $200 I'm not interested in supporting scalpers and was hoping someone has scans.

[Anonymous No.10392785]

>>10392784
try amazon japan or some other japanese auction sites

[Anonymous No.10392786]

>>10392785
I have

[Anonymous No.10392787]

is anyone elses tracking from Bodyline not working/ not recognised? Bought some shoes at the end of March, tracking still not recognised.

[Anonymous No.10392790]

>>10392718
Yeah I know they used to do that, I ordered my first brand dress from them. But in the last few years it would always remain empty if I had my home country as delivery country, if I put it on Japan I could see everything.

>>10392729
???

[Anonymous No.10392797]

>>10392710
bro you could always email them and tokyo alice always has shipped directly. I legit bought from them like this a week ago and six months ago

[Anonymous No.10392803]

>>10392784

Someone was selling 2 of theirs as a set intact/new for only $40 plus shipping last week on LM ($20 for each copy, reasonable for new books). It sold already though.

[Anonymous No.10392806]

>>10392786
What pages do you want scanned

[Anonymous No.10392808]

>>10392764
When Mana-sama is your Master

[Anonymous No.10392811]

I need new sandals, any recommendations? I wear sweet and gothic

[Anonymous No.10392815]

>>10392806
The white rabbit ouji set but if that's too much just the shorts and jabot patterns with the construction details. Ideally I would like a complete scan so it doesn't get lost to time but I don't expect anyone to scan a whole book.

[Anonymous No.10392818]

>>10392811
don't. sandals look ugly af with lolita, why would you want to? Is there really even much of a coolness difference between sandals and teaparties?
Unless you're skipping legwear which just makes your coordinates unbalanced.
Just stick to lolita-appropriate shoes and mesh and lace ankle socks for hot weather.

[Anonymous No.10392834]

I just sniped a rare dress. I feel powerful.

[Anonymous No.10392835]

>>10392772
Try reading the “dress yourself guide.” Maybe edgelord wasn’t the term I was going for. Spergy is more correct. It’s a ranty mess. I was around when it was made, that’s why I know about it. It’s rarely suggested anymore and being butthurt that people didn’t like how you completed a project doesn’t change that. And if it’s meant to be updated why the fuck hasn’t it

[Anonymous No.10392836]

>>10392818
I hate young lolitas

[Anonymous No.10392855]

>>10392797
I didn’t know that you could do mail-order. All I remember from when I ordered from them years ago and had it shipped to my own country, they took two weeks to calculate shipping + send me my invoice, after that it took another two weeks to get it shipped. Always used Tenso after that as it was much quicker. (It also saves me customs fees as I can lower the value this way.)

[Anonymous No.10392864]

>>10392834
What did you get?

[Anonymous No.10392866]

>>10392836
socks and sandals, so kawaii
fucking boomer

[Anonymous No.10392874]

>>10392866
unironically kawaii

[Anonymous No.10392875]

>>10392874

[Anonymous No.10392887]

>>10392875

[Anonymous No.10392894]

Sweet lolita is so ugly, all sweet lolita looks like they are retarded or have mental issues

[Anonymous No.10392903]

>>10392894
I feel like all lolitas have mental issues.
Just like how all furries are autistic.

[Anonymous No.10392910]

>>10392866
>what is japan

[Anonymous No.10392912]

When did this thread become the unpopular opinions thread? Or maybe it's just bored scrotes shoving their opinions down people's throats like they always do.

[Anonymous No.10392918]

>>10392912
Corona summer, man

[Anonymous No.10392947]

>>10392866
Holy shit have you ever opened a magazine

[Anonymous No.10392986]

>>10392775
I'd send this site to the publisher of OnS. Also I bet the ToS of the site prohibits this type of selling.

[Anonymous No.10392995]

>>10392775
[e-mail] is OnS' publishing company's email.

[Anonymous No.10392997]

>>10392775
Also, report them to Storenvy for selling knockoffs.

[Anonymous No.10393301]

Has AtPie said anything about international shipping? I can't find anything on their website or SM. I'm in the US but maybe someone else is wondering too.

[Anonymous No.10393341]

>>10392764
Oh lawd. I look forward to the leather harness they'll be selling next.

[Anonymous No.10393343]

>>10392461
It should include acknowledgements that things like "the rules" are a western concept and that Japanese and Chinese lolitas are different than western ones. All the old guides are focused entirely on what the west considers proper lolita or w/e

[Anonymous No.10393388]

>>10392815
I have book 12 too. Also unfortunately I don’t own a scammer but I can try with my camera. Otherwise, is there a Kinokunya Bookstore near you? Most (if not all??) are on the west coast. I got all of my OnS from there. Online isn’t as updated sadly. If you want the photos, let me know where to send them to since I don’t wanna spam up this thread.

[Anonymous No.10393454]

>>10393343
Bullshit. The west straight up copied them from the little that we could gather from japan and you have 0 idea what chinese lolitas do. Stop talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.10393456]

>>10393454
do you really think no one on this board speaks mandarin???

[Anonymous No.10393463]

>>10392554
Holy shit of all places I did not expect to see lulano here haha. Agreed, consumer culture is fascinating.

[Anonymous No.10393469]

>>10393454
I follow Japanese lolitas on twitter and Chinese ones on Weibo so uhh I have a pretty good idea. They often do a lot of shit the west considers "against the rules": cat ears, black shoes with pastel coords, no blouse etc. Asian lolitas are simply way more lax as a whole.

[Anonymous No.10393477]

>>10393301
Read the thread

[Anonymous No.10393492]

>>10393456
Who said that?

>>10393469
Please read your own post again and think about it. No, following a handful asian lolitas who don't even tag their shit and aren't obsessed with calling everything they wear lolita does not give you a good idea. How about you take that weeb energy and actually use it to research.

[Anonymous No.10393503]

>>10393469
All of these aren't "against the rules" it's just that Americans suffer from eye and/or brain damage and can't for the love of god style it properly so it's way easier to just say not to do it.
Also share some of these coords, I only follow gothic lolitas, which look different to westerners but in a really subtle ways, it's mostly hair and use of corsets.

[Anonymous No.10393507]

>>10393492
Anon... Weibo has lolita hubs that share content from thousands of lolitas. The biggest one I follow has 700k members. You should take your own advice of doing research or just stop talking lmao

[Anonymous No.10393509]

>>10393507
This is an image board anon, just share them and stop expecting people to belive you if you just start talking out of your ass.

[Anonymous No.10393518]

>>10392818
>teaparties
I hate those. And yes there is a big difference with closed shoes. Please refrain from replying to any future questions..

[Anonymous No.10393520]

>>10393509
Spend a small amount of time looking through the lolita tags on twitter/insta and the hubs on weibo. It's not hard, stop being lazy and ignorant.

[Anonymous No.10393522]

>>10393520

[Anonymous No.10393523]

>>10393522

[Anonymous No.10393524]

>>10393523

[Anonymous No.10393528]

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[Anonymous No.10393531]

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[Anonymous No.10393532]

>>10393507
And the point still stands. Do you actually read or just look at pictures? Why do you deliberately ignore the shit ton of lolita guides they made too? Hell Japan made whole fucking guideline books.

[Anonymous No.10393537]

>>10393531

[Anonymous No.10393538]

>>10393532
Ok so you got the proof you asked for and still want to act like it's not true. Stay ignorant, anon!

[Anonymous No.10393548]

>>10393538
Nice deflection. And you are talking to several people newfag. Posting chinese borderline itas is not proof of your original statement, I could do the same with 100 westeners without reading what they actually have to say and claim the same. You can cover your ears all you want but your precious asians made the rules you're so butthurt about and also have their hubs to make fun of shit styling choices.

[Anonymous No.10393550]

>>10393538
Just ignore this Ameritard. They're so obvious when they pop up.
I like seeing these photos of lolitas who are wearing their clothes, as clothes, and not a costume. Majority of the coords western lolitas go for are boring af and they make it look like cosplay.

[Anonymous No.10393556]

>>10393550
I'm not american. Just stop spreading misinfo and going into weird "in asia everything is nicer" weeb fits, you can keep wearing your cat ears and sneakers all you want.

[Anonymous No.10393557]

>>10393548
Ok now I'm 100% sure you're trolling because lolita threads rarely pop up on 2ch these days and China has had absolutely nothing of the sort since social credit was implemented. China never had any rigid guides, you can see all this kinda stuff in their official lolita mag Girlism too. Japan literally never told people to not wear cat ears or black shoes either. You're not even trying at this point

>>10393550
I like seeing the variety, even if I don't necessarily agree with their choices. Western lolitas always look cookie cutter due to "the rules" they made up

[Anonymous No.10393561]

>>10393557
>Western lolitas always look cookie cutter due to "the rules" they made up

Sometimes I think that the west needed to rely on rules like "don't wear cat ears", etc, because the people who get into the fashion here often have zero fashion sense. They can't rely on their eyes to see what looks good so they need to adhere to rules.

[Anonymous No.10393570]

>>10393557
>you're trolling because I can't research and decide to stay misinformed because it fits with my views
Ok.
>lolita threads rarely pop up on 2ch these days
Are you aware they have a general just like us who have bump limits and that 2ch also has sub websites or are you actually retarded? Their threads on kotanuki already get posted here a bunch of times, honestly lurk more and use the archive newfag.

>China has had absolutely nothing of the sort since social credit was implemented. China never had any rigid guides,
You know, if you don't care to read or search, you can also watch them on bilibili.
And again, stop deflecting. Your statement was
>things like "the rules" are a western concept
>Japanese and Chinese lolitas are different than western ones.
>All the old guides are focused entirely on what the west considers proper lolita or w/e
I alread posted one of 2 whole japanese guide books with "rules" and no-gos. Kera and glbs (and almost all of the other discontinued short magazines, including brand focussed books and misakos books) have mentioned them all over their whole history and we just translated and applied them. Stop making up shit.

[Anonymous No.10393583]

>>10393531
holy shit I love this shot

[Anonymous No.10393607]

> all these brilliant sets
> no original tea party colors
oh, come on, AP!

[Anonymous No.10393609]

>>10393570
Post these "rules" and "no-gos" then? Or wait, let me guess, you've never read those 2 whole Japanese guide books and now you're gonna deflect again.

[Anonymous No.10393612]

>>10393548
I hate when you westerners mixing up China and Japan as a whole, no, two totally different culture. In China lolita community most of them haven’t heard about GLB or KERA or anything like that, they know lolita from tiktok, they don’t care about the rule because they don’t care about Lolita as a culture. To them it’s just girly clothes.

[Anonymous No.10393619]

>>10393609
>no u! U!!!
>ignores the whole post and now straight up projects
Most of it is uploaded on lolitahistory and even nicely illustrated for retards like you. Literally just look yourself or look up the translations from glbs, keras or any other magazine or book saying the same thing if you can't be bothered to learn the language who you're making bold weeb statements of or use google translate.

[Anonymous No.10393622]

>>10393612
Tell that to >>10393343 who brought them up in the first place, I was just replying. And no, chinese lolitas exist for longer than just the past 2 years tiktok got popular. There are plenty of chinese lolitas, especially old school ones, who heard of it.

[Anonymous No.10393632]

>>10393622
I was saying *most* of them, back then Chinese lolita community was fairly small, but now 80% of them I talked to have only been in the fashion for 2 years or less.

[Anonymous No.10393636]

>>10393622
the chinese/asian lolitas who have been around for a lot longer are actually quite similar to western lolitas. there used to be plenty of chinese lolitas on egl livejournal.

[Anonymous No.10393647]

What do you think will be the next big trend after OTT phase passes? Back to nuns and cable tie halos?

[Anonymous No.10393694]

>>10393622
they all use douyin and its been around longer than that. everyone should just face it if you're not in the prc you don't have good insight into whatever the fuck is going on over there

[Anonymous No.10393695]

>>10393647
I think lolita won't be able to escape the e-girl trend.

[Anonymous No.10393698]

>>10393694
What’s is going there is ott sweet and old school got called ugly and weird constantly by new lolita, full set lolita is not really a thing outside of photo shoots and tea parties. Yes sure there are older lolitas who share the same rule and standards as western/Japanese comm but they’re the minority in the Chinese comm nowadays.

[Anonymous No.10393703]

>>10393647
The OTT phase never really completely passed. I think retro themed releases might gain more traction in Japan, atleast among AP.

[Anonymous No.10393704]

>>10393469
The only part of this that’s still been a hard “rule” is blouses. Lolita guides never had anything about shoe color, and animal/cat ears being frowned upon hasn’t been a thing for over a decade when brands started releasing their own versions.

Of course, idiots still pop up in the ita thread or unpopular opinion thread saying “Cat ears are ita they aren’t lolita!!” but that doesn’t mean anything

[Anonymous No.10393705]

>>10393561
The “no cat ears rule” is because most western lolitas first exposure to lolita fashion was anime cat girl drawings. Back pre 2009, the lolita community was niche, it was hard to find correct information or good examples. It was easier to say “cat ears are a no-no” than explain a million times why your Chii from Chobits cosplay isn’t lolita.

[Anonymous No.10393711]

>>10393647
>>10393647
Didn't the OTT phase kinda pass already? Of course big meets and tea parties are always going to have people dressing up more OTT but I feel like with the newfound popularity of oldschool a lot of lolitas are gravitating towards easy to wear looks that focus on textures over prints.
If I had to guess maybe the trend will be more "clean" looking coords that are about perfecting the silhouette and using fewer different colours, combined with a more twee look. Something like pic related. That's possibly just wishful thinking though.

[Anonymous No.10393721]

>>10393711
Deco OTT style looks are becoming trendy again among AP fans in japan (look for the thread here on it in the catalog), but I don’t think the trend will leak into other brands like it did back in 2009/2010. Baby and Meta seem content in doing their own thing. AP hasn’t really picked up on the old school trend at all, so it’s not hitting every brand.

[Anonymous No.10393726]

I hate it when sellers on Lacemarket write shit like “There’s a small stain that you can easily wash out!” Wash it out before you sell it if it’s that easy you retard

[Anonymous No.10393732]

>>10393726

Nah, I like it as long as they lower the price so I get a discount as a result of their laziness

[Anonymous No.10393736]

>>10393711
I bloody hope not! vive la crazy looks

[Anonymous No.10393740]

>>10393711
Make lolita textured again!

[Anonymous No.10393742]

>>10393647
I wish lolita would return to high quality cotton fabrics

[Anonymous No.10393745]

>>10393726
>Wash it out before you sell it if it’s that easy you retard
That's wishful thinking lel. You can't imagine the number of items that I've bought over the years which came reeking of BO/cigarette smoke, or which were just being soaked in air freshener/perfume to conceal the most disgusting smells. Even from popular, well known lolitas, the kind of person who you'd never expect to be so filthy. There is always a risk involved with second hand buying. Just accept the idea that you have to wash everything you've bought before you can wear it

[Anonymous No.10393748]

>>10392764
looks like moitie is copying raspberrymazohist

[Anonymous No.10393749]

I just accidentally got a burando cutsew heavily discounted for only ¥500 and I am so happy about it.

Japanese sellers are seemingly super forgiving with discounting items with any small noticable damage.

[Anonymous No.10393839]

>>10393748
Yes because there's a huge tacky crucifix and it's made of plastic. Dog collars have been a goth staple for decades, Moitie just made this to cash in on current trends.

[Anonymous No.10393859]

>>10393839
Yeah no. Collar are a gothic staple, but that is terrible. Corset style collars, collars from velvet and with lace, yes, even dog collars are more of a western goth thing, even if it was used in lolita it didn't look like something that you'd find on wish. Why would they cash in on trends that their customer base is probably not interested in? Edgelords will eat it up, but they sure won't buy the dresses.

[Anonymous No.10393868]

>>10393748
Lmao ok newfag

[Anonymous No.10393878]

>>10392764
>>10393341
>>10393748
>>10393859
left out the seemingly sarcastic/joke ones, but holy shit corona summer

did tyler or lor not teach you newbies/larpers about EGA? and a leather band isn't anywhere close to bondage gear ffs, this isn't the dick face harness or even a slave collar, if it had spikes then at least I'd give you all the benefit of the doubt

Newfags aside I wish they would've done a cross with the logo instead, I could've swore they had a thick leather choker like that before. I hope the ega crowd likes this at least, and I'm glad moitie still includes them.

[Anonymous No.10393880]

>>10393748
>>10393859
Alice Auaa has been selling these kind of chokers since the 90s.
Wtf is going on, did someone link cgl to a newbie fb group?

[Anonymous No.10393906]

>>10393878
Never said it looked like bondage, more like it's hideous and I've never seen moitie do chockers like that, if there is something that looks like that, I'd love to be proven wrong. I like their collars that are just a piece of decororation an a single stripe of fabric, but this ain't it for me, it looks like these medical information bracelets.

[Anonymous No.10393924]

>>10393878
Who cares. As a moitie fag this is pretty awful. Maybe it would look ok on a cat or something.

[Butler No.10393939]

This is a project I am working on. It will be hosted on my own domain (hopefully). I don't want to see the subculture perish because people are too afraid of being seen as "gatekeepers". To not derail, I will not go into much detail but if someone wants this as a new topic, I will make it happen.

I have no desire to parrot a lot of information already accessible elsewhere, but I do want to focus a lot on the culture of the fashion and subculture.

Email is listed above, but it is: [e-mail]

Send me your questions, concerns, and suggestions there. Suggestions will be vetted for accuracy but likely included if they are reasonable and intelligent.

[Anonymous No.10393977]

>>10393939
Sounds absolutely cringy, including the namefagging. But I'll prepair the popcorn.

[Anonymous No.10393980]

Not sure if this is the right thread, but I have a laundry question. I have an old Baby skirt with rhinestones still attached, but I'm unsure how to clean the skirt. Normally I would soak it in oxyclean, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea.

[Anonymous No.10393982]

>>10393906
one simple search for "choker" in lolibrary with brand set to moitie proved me right with this >https://lolibrary.org/items/moitie-leather-cross-choker
although I thought they did more (I know they did a similar logo cuff bracelet), I must have been thinking bout boz's chokers or moitie's neck corsets. And one of the other anons mentioned leather harness to imply bondage crap, not to mention the joke comments I left out, unless you were all those replies.
Also, like >>10393880 said, alice auaa and other brands have been doing the "medical information" type collars since forever, pic related. Not everything is for the egl crowd, again.
>>10393924
people genuinely interested in EGL and EGA do, but I forgot that I'm most likely speaking to larpers and newbs that never improve
I don't particularly care for this release either since I don't do EGA, but it could be cute for toned down EGA coords.
>>10393880
In one of the recent unpopular opinion threads it was discussed that tyler and lor's videos have seemingly caused an increase in know-it-all newbs and lolita-at-heart larpers (more than what we usually deal with), and with the severe lack of knowledge of things outside of AP sweet going around lately and tyler name dropping cgl in the past I can honestly see how that is to blame for all of this. Corona + upcoming summer is only exacerbating what was already a growing problem. The board was always shit but we had better lolita discussions not too long ago, it hardly feels like the generals even talks about new releases anymore. Just larpers living out I'm Telling Tyler rp's and newbs commenting on shit they don't know about like they're some ancient, omniscient lolita sage. Fuck, even the cof threads are dying, and when they're around they're worse than ever for discussion.
>>10393939
make a thread and show us what you've got in mind

[Anonymous No.10393987]

>>10393980
is it dirty or stained in any way? Spot clean the stains, but otherwise just take it to a dry cleaner when it's in need of a full cleaning, which shouldn't be that often for a skirt since it doesn't come in contact with your body directly like an OP. Submerging it in water will most likely damage the stones.

[Anonymous No.10394005]

>>10393977
how is this cringey when a bunch of other anons were talking about wanting a new guide?

[Anonymous No.10394009]

>>10393619
ntayrt but this is just deflecting. I hate anons like you who just talk shit and then just default "no just look it up thooo!!"
like back up your argument, you're on a fucking image board and the only thing holding you back from posting what you're talking about is YOU.
quit being a pussy and prove your shit if you're gonna talk so much shit about this.

[Anonymous No.10394011]

>>10393612
>they know lolita from tiktok
do you know this from living in China?
Unless someone has actually been to China, I have problems believing what they say about what actually happens there.
Outsiders only know so much about the place.
Look what happened to CG or are you not aware of that?

[Anonymous No.10394015]

>>10393632
oh holy shit.. do you go around just talking to random Chinese lolitas on social media? Do you stop talking to them if you find out they're not Chinese? Do you specifically hunt down Chinese accounts?

[Anonymous No.10394022]

>>10393982
You care too much. If you love it so much buy yourself one in peace and shut up. People can have their opinions and think it's ugly all they want.

[Anonymous No.10394033]

>>10394005
There are already about 1001 guides out there, so there's bound to be one that doesn't offend your very fragile feelings like the guide book.

[Anonymous No.10394035]

>>10394022
They made a good point about all the know it all newbs though.
Also this is a place for discussion. Why are you trying to shut that down?

[Anonymous No.10394037]

>>10394009
>>10394011
>>10394015
>>10394022
Trying way too hard

[Anonymous No.10394038]

>>10394015
I......am in the Chinese comm, duh

[Anonymous No.10394039]

>>10394033
Listen stupid, I'm not one of the anons who wanted a new guide. I'm speaking factually about what happened in the thread.
If you don't want there to be a new guide that's too fucking bad because it looks like someone else is already working on one.
I wasn't offended by anything. I was asking why it was cringey.
Learn to fucking read. And then learn how to answer a god damn question cause you failed at that pretty hard just now.

[Anonymous No.10394040]

>>10394038
Are you trying to tell me China has one giant comm that you're in?
China is huge. Come off it.

[Anonymous No.10394047]

>>10394039
>>10394040

[Anonymous No.10394052]

>>10394047
>posting a meme instead of answering an easy question
typical gull deflection

[Anonymous No.10394061]

>>10394033
Listen, I am not offended by the guidebook. I am embarrassed by it. It was poorly done save for a couple of sections, particularly with it being a collab. There’s not a lot of excuses. I welcome whatever anon is doing. We can’t complain until we see it and the bar is currently low

[Anonymous No.10394065]

>>10394052
There there. If you lurk some more, learn what those big boy words mean and read slowly, I'm sure you will fit in soon. Good luck, newfag-chan!

[Anonymous No.10394067]

>>10394065
Wow you are really mad someone is writing a blog aren’t you

[Anonymous No.10394069]

>>10394061
What was poorly done besides using tumblr as the platform? The language is completely normal and cgl was only mentioned on the side. I legit don't understand the complains.

[Anonymous No.10394077]

>>10394067
Deep breaths anon. You got this.

[Anonymous No.10394082]

>>10394069
The whole thing is rambl-y and poorly written. I have to wonder if you are esl if you don’t notice that it sounds like it was written by a 4th grader

[Anonymous No.10394086]

>>10394065
I've definitely been here longer than your quarantine summer ass has. I can tell by your shitty posting tactics.

[Anonymous No.10394100]

>>10394082
It has a clear structure and narration, bullet points and explanations, as expected for total newbies. What exactly do you mean by rambly?

[Anonymous No.10394107]

>>10393987
Dry cleaners place clothes in big tumblers which can be rough on certain pieces. A friend had a sequined dress ruined by them. I wouldn't recommend taking something with rhinestones

I would use Eucalan or some other hand wash detergent after testing it.

[Anonymous No.10394127]

>>10393704
The BS/MS on BSoLF are constantly telling newbies that animal ears are ita and should never be worn. A lot of the old guides said it too. It's an outdated belief that has yet be shaken off.

[Anonymous No.10394212]

>>10393705
>tfw this is a fairly new franchise

[Anonymous No.10394217]

>>10393561
The irony is that a lot of people follow the rules closely but still look like shit. You really can't teach style.

[Anonymous No.10394259]

>>10392786
Looks like this website still sells it. Might need an ss for Taiwan though.

https://www.talubook.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=20974

[Anonymous No.10394268]

>>10394217
That's definitely subjective and just sounds like your opinion. I follow lots of girls who follow the rules and I would say it makes them look good. But that's my opinion.

I'm not sure what your take on the difference between style and following the rules but I'd love to hear it.

[Anonymous No.10394273]

>>10394259
They do sell it but it is sadly out of stock.

[Anonymous No.10394302]

>>10394268
You can still look good without following the rules and you can still look bad while following them, basically.

[Anonymous No.10394305]

>>10394302
I get that and I'm not trying to argue that - but it is still subjective what YOU think looks good.
That's the real reason you can't teach style. Because who ever you are "teaching" might not agree with your style choices. And that goes for everyone.

[Anonymous No.10394314]

>>10393704
Lolitas who say all animal ears are ita need to fuck off, especially since they’re usually the same people who support elf ears, which actually ARE ita.

[Anonymous No.10394315]

>>10394314
I like both and think that hating on them is cgl tier hack shit.

[Anonymous No.10394316]

>>10394314
Can we all agree elf ears are the new animal ears?

[Anonymous No.10394317]

>>10394316
I would love to know why either are bad aside from the typical contrarian opinion of cgl just hating what's popular right now.

[Anonymous No.10394321]

>>10394317
Because elf ears are fucking hideous and retarded? What more is there to explain???

[Anonymous No.10394326]

Did anyone else here order in the second MTO round for Strawberry Doll, the one during the bazaar? Iirc the release date was supposed to be this month but I’m wondering if anyone else has heard anything about it, what with the pandemic and all.

[Anonymous No.10394329]

>>10394321
Something other than your personal opinion.

[Anonymous No.10394333]

>>10394321
this is literally what people said about cat ears tho

[Anonymous No.10394335]

Just a heads up if anyone has been waiting for months for their Bodyline order, I emailed them yesterday and they basically said Japan post arent collecting pmail packages so I could either pay for UPS post or get a refund. Just a tip in case anyone is in the same boat.

[Anonymous No.10394337]

>>10394329
Natyr It limits hair styling choices and doesn't have much to do with the themes that are often in dresses so it often takes away from cords instead of adding to them. Bunny ears are fine in the sense that it adds to the theme of bunnies that would be present in the cord. If someone did a full fantasy themed cord it would probably look fine.

[Anonymous No.10394338]

>>10394337
Thank you.

>>10394321
See? that wasn't so fucking hard, was it?

[Anonymous No.10394339]

>>10394333
Nayrt but they usually are, if it isn't made by brand and even then some of the huge clip ones look ridiculous. I don't know why any adult non-weeaboo would want to wear them. And newbies probably won't buy the brand ones, they'd stick to $5 uwu egirl aliexpress cat ears and larp as kawaii lolita kittens.

[Anonymous No.10394340]

>>10394317
Imo elf ears look more costumey than animal ears do, like you're dressing up as your uwu kawaii elf princess OC. They also don't really match any lolita themes like >>10394337 said.

It's not that elf ears are always ita, but itas certainly do gravitate towards them. If anyone has an example of a good coord featuring elf ears where they dont feel out of place I'd love to see it.

[Anonymous No.10394344]

>>10394339
>I don't know why any adult non-weeaboo would want to wear them
because they think they're cute?
People like things that you don't.

[Anonymous No.10394346]

>>10394340
>elf ears look more costumey than animal ears do, like you're dressing up as your uwu kawaii elf princess OC
This is a stretch. They both look costumey and I don't see how being a kawaii elf girl is any different from being kawaii lolita kitten.

[Anonymous No.10394347]

>>10394340
>It's not that elf ears are always ita, but itas certainly do gravitate towards them.
Not that I've seen. I've only seen hot girls wearing them on IG and then the usual models on Taobao.

[Anonymous No.10394350]

>>10394346
I don’t see BABY and AP releasing elf ears. Now animal ears on the other hand

[Anonymous No.10394351]

>>10394347
Post photos then. I've only seen the fat elf ear ita on CoF.

>>10394346
If cat ears are shoehorned, then yeah, it's the same vibe. The point is that if you're wearing a cat dress it makes some sense to wear cat ears, but there's never a point where you're wearing an "elf dress".

[Anonymous No.10394354]

>>10394339
>I don't know why any adult non-weeaboo would want to wear them.
The Ariana Grande-style cat ears were super popular among normies recently. It's not even a weeb thing.

[Anonymous No.10394383]

>>10393607
I want Daydream so bad but I don’t think it’ll ever happen.

[Anonymous No.10394387]

>>10392250
All I care about right now is saving money for that Baby Wizard of Oz release.

[Anonymous No.10394426]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MAKI_Candy_/status/1257224711215304704

[Anonymous No.10394429]

The new coord + drawing contest has started, but this time instead of baby, it's Alice and the pirates. It's the same rules and prize tiers as last time, except oujis can enter now.
Are any gulls going to enter? I'm going to submit a drawing, even though the prize is ugly imo

https://harajuku-pop.com/wp-content/plugins/harajukupop-ap/

[Anonymous No.10394435]

>>10394351
>Post photos then. I've only seen the fat elf ear ita on CoF
You only saw one and assumed everyone doing it was the same?
Pic related is from Chinese lolita updates on IG.
Also saw girls wearing them casually but they weren't wearing lolita or cosplay so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Anonymous No.10394436]

>>10394435
and yes it looks costumey as fuck but I don't think it's ita and the girl definitely is ugly.

[Anonymous No.10394437]

>>10394435
and yes it looks costumey as fuck but I don't think it's ita and the girl definitely isn't ugly.

[Anonymous No.10394439]

>>10394127
it's really not though, if a newbie showed up in garbage quality cat ears no one would say it looks fine. it has to be brand. so it's a good rule to have until they understand that.

[Anonymous No.10394442]

>>10394439
But again, this is a problem of the west being obsessed with rules instead of assessing whether or not something looks good in an individual outfit. That newbie should be taught that their particular cat ears are garbage because of x, y and z.

I see a lot of people (even on /cgl/) who seem to think that their outfits look good by default because they're following the rules, and nothing can be ita as long as it's following the rules. It's rigid and unhelpful. You should be looking at the outfit as a whole and honestly assessing whether it works, not ticking boxes and assuming it guarantees a good outfit.

[Anonymous No.10394450]

Is this the lolita or cosplay thread? I can't believe the dumb sperging over cat ears has been going on for more than 100 posts now. Just wear your stupid cat ears, elve ears, sheep horns, madonna crown and wings and shut up.

[Anonymous No.10394452]

>>10394450
This is a place for discussion.
If you don't like the topic, you're welcome to bring something new to the table but if you just want to piss and moan about people using the thread for what it's for, then you can go kick rocks.

[Anonymous No.10394453]

>>10394435
>>10394437
This would look like a dumpster fire without the 500 layers of shoop it has

[Anonymous No.10394460]

>>10394453
Oh boy, the shoop argument.
Look, I said hot girls and models on Taobao. I shared an example of a hot girl modeling some Taobao shit.
Are you telling me she's really covered in pimples or some shit? I'm sure she looks fine without the shoop and the shoop is clearly there to add to the fantasy effect.

[Anonymous No.10394462]

>>10394452
This is the lolita general, not cosplay general and your "discussion" is going in circles.

[Anonymous No.10394465]

>>10394460
>hot girls and models
>I'm sure she looks fine without the shoop
>shoop is clearly there to add to the fantasy effec
I can smell the testosterone from here.

[Anonymous No.10394468]

>>10394462
Hey, why don't you come up with something new to talk about then, dumb ass. All you're doing is complaining. This isn't the complaint thread either, retard.

[Anonymous No.10394470]

>>10394435
God, wtf happened to lolita fashion

[Anonymous No.10394471]

>>10394462
Just come out and say you think elf ears are cosplay instead of being vague about it

[Anonymous No.10394472]

>>10394465
I'm a gay woman actually. I know it reeks of scrote but I don't have any balls.

[Anonymous No.10394473]

>>10394470
China

[Anonymous No.10394474]

>>10394470
China I guess.

[Anonymous No.10394477]

>>10394473
>>10394474
wow and they say this place isn't a hivemind.

[Anonymous No.10394478]

>>10394477
What's your answer then

[Anonymous No.10394482]

>>10394468
Already did and replied to ontopic posts, but it got drowned in cat ear sperging. You sound like you have a bad day, take it easy.

[Anonymous No.10394484]

>>10394482
nayrt but just because you don't like the topic, doesn't mean it's off-topic. Cat ears have always been a talking point here.

[Anonymous No.10394485]

Does anyone remember the short film where the girl (can't remember if she was a lolita or just kawaii) became a wrestler (?) because her boyfriend broke up with her, can't find it no matter what I search

[Anonymous No.10394488]

>>10394485
Mister Rococo! If it isn't on yt anymore, I have it downloaded somewhere.

[Anonymous No.10394493]

>>10394478
I said China and so did the other anon.
I'm mostly joking.

[Anonymous No.10394494]

>>10394482
If anyone is having a bad day, it's YOU.
You're the one who came in here all pissy about the discussion with nothing else to add.

>I already did!!
Then do it some more or did you run out of thoughts? Like what's your fucking issue, or are you trying to deliberately derail because you don't like the topic.

[Anonymous No.10394495]

>>10394488
Thank you!!

[Anonymous No.10394510]

>>10394494
Is the irony lost on you or what?

Waiting for your last word with bated breath,
Yours truly,
Anonymous

[Anonymous No.10394515]

>>10394510
Please just ignore them, looking back they seem to be raging for almost a day now.

[Anonymous No.10394516]

>>10394510
>I was just being ironic
yea sure.

[Anonymous No.10394526]

>>10394383
I want the daydream badly too, anon.

>>10393607
I keep wondering why AP made the midnight and daydream colors for Dream Marine worldwide but not Misty Sky? I've had a discussion with a few people over this. There's some speculation that AP only wanted them to be exclusive to the Shanghai TP, but if that were true then why did Japan get a re-release of the midnight? There are so many WTBs on taobao for the daydream Misty Sky, so it's not like the demand isn't there. AP would make so much more money on the TP exclusive colors if they stopped wasting their breath on the other colorways. There's clearly a demand, and definitely not enough supply. Idk how AP aren't seeing it, especially with that scalper on fril wanting 189,500 yen for the daydream. The market is already over saturated with unwanted Misty Skies and Dream Marines in brilliant color, so who keeps thinking these re-releases are good ideas?

[Anonymous No.10394528]

>>10394526
>The market is already over saturated with unwanted Misty Skies and Dream Marines in brilliant color, so who keeps thinking these re-releases are good ideas?
I mean it gives others a chance to buy from the brand directly instead of buying second hand from a shitty scalper.

[Anonymous No.10394549]

>>10394526
My version is that AP wants to keep tp exclusives as such. Parco party release was too limited, I don't think it changed much. Other than I can only recall them rereleasing CTP and Strawberry Doll special set, but that's it.

[Anonymous No.10394555]

>>10394549
Well they did rerelease midnight idk why they wouldn't do it for daydream

[Anonymous No.10394556]

>>10394555
Maybe they just haven't gotten to it yet
Also good luck with getting them to do anything with the US these days..

[Anonymous No.10394566]

>>10394556
US Shop is getting jack compared to Paris. Hopefully they're not thinking of closing it

[Anonymous No.10394569]

>>10394566
Yeah, California is on mega lock down like New York is.
However a lot of states are slowly "reopening" retail stores so maybe they'll be next to do so.

[Anonymous No.10394579]

>>10394566
Sadly, it's true. I remember someone posting an insight from visiting differeng AP stores that proves your point.

[Anonymous No.10394589]

>>10394579
Paris store has always been better than SF anyways.

[Anonymous No.10394614]

>>10394326
Also haven't heard anything. I'm also curious and looking for an update from AP.

[Anonymous No.10394635]

>>10394579
Tried looking through the archives but couldn't seem to find the post. Do you remember the gist of what was said?

[Anonymous No.10394636]

>>10393859
This style of collar isn't new or unfounded in egl/ega, what are you going on about. And Moitie made a collar just like this back in the early 2000s, if I remember correctly. Alice auaa, putomayo, black peace now have all made and released collars just like these and have been doing so since the 90s.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't talk at all

[Anonymous No.10394690]

>>10394635
Sorry, I missed to mention it was from btb comment section here https://behind-the-bows.livejournal.com/218737.html?thread=44256625#t44256625

AP San Francisco: Trash, shares a store with a bunch of other brands, over priced, a bit rude, and clearly the unloved stepchild of Angelic Pretty.

Angelic Pretty Tokyo (Harajuku): It's the head shop, but far and away the rudest one I've been to. Literally, have had to repeatedly ask them to include the promos (I'm a foreigner) and they don't even have the best selection.

Angelic Pretty Yokohama: 10/10, since they are off the radar, they tend to have stuff in stock that other stores sell out of. Staff is nice too!

Angelic Pretty Shinjuku: My favorite store, and not just because the commute is easy. They have tons of little secret restocking, so I get a lot of stuff I miss out on. The storekeeper is nice, and it's located in a mall with BTTSB, AATP, IW, an MMM seller, Atelier P., Amavel, this incredibly cute and reasonably priced lolita shoe seller, and Meta. Plus they do tax-free for foreigners! If you go to Tokyo, go to this store!

Angelic Pretty Shibuya: The shiny new love-child. Gets a lot of stuff the other stores don't. Has many exclusive releases but runs out of stuff very quickly, and is truly hell to get to because the mall is always packed. Shares a mall with Konami store, Shonen Jump store, Pokemon center and Nintendo store, so if you're a weeb this is probably the shop for you. Very touristy area though, so prepare to be within a 100 foot radius of 500 people at all times.

[Anonymous No.10394693]

>>10394690
Angelic Pretty Paris: Probably the most attractive of all the stores, but like all of the abroad stores, there is a serious markup. This isn't helped by the fact that the euro exchange rate is high but if you buy it in Japan, it's literally 20-30% cheaper after tax-free. Their website actually works though, and they get things we don't get so it's cheaper than a scalper! Also AP low-key loves its Paris store, so they get quite a lot of exclusive items and promos.

[Anonymous No.10394699]

>>10394693
You can also just email AP Paris about new releases if you don't want to participate in a blood bath

[Anonymous No.10394708]

>>10393749
It’s so great. I’ve definitely gotten some steals because of a missing waist tie button or a small lace tear. Stuff that I can mend myself and no one will notice.

[Anonymous No.10394726]

>>10394708
My favorite is broken zippers. Most Baby dresses have garbage zippers I’ll have to replace anyway and holy shit japanese sellers will deeply discount for a broken zipper

[Anonymous No.10394736]

>>10394555
When did they re-release midnight? Are you thinking of the similar gradient release with a different collar?

[Anonymous No.10394777]

>>10394736
It was rereleased at the opening of the Shibuya PARCO store:

http://www.angelicpretty.com/shopnews/shibuya_open.htm

[Anonymous No.10394782]

>>10394777
Thanks for the link!

[Anonymous No.10394806]

>>10394473
>>10394474
Reminder that China is the main reason brands like AP and BTSSB are able to to thrive rather than barely stay existing. You better hope they don't lose interest in lolita any time soon.

[Anonymous No.10394811]

>>10394806
How did they manage to exist before expanding into China? Genuinely curious

[Anonymous No.10394815]

>>10394811
Don't you remember when harajuku girls were a thing? More people bought from them back then because that was the height of normie popularity for Jfash as a whole.
Since then a lot of shops have closed or just moved to being entirely online.

>>10394806
I'm one of the anons you quoted but I'm not even bothered by China changing how lolita is done. I'm also not the anon who was all angry at their mass amount of shooping.
I don't give a fuck if they shoop their models or incorporate trends that aren't normally part of lolita.

[Anonymous No.10394946]

>>10393987
It's slightly yellowed since it's old and white, but not dirty

Like >>10394107 said, I'm a little nervous about dry cleaners, especially since I live in a rural area without any trustworthy ones. I

[Anonymous No.10395061]

>>10392875
tfw can't do this because all my socks are ruined

[Anonymous No.10395073]

>>10394811
Lolita used to be way more popular in Japan and the west than it is now. It died down a ton in those places while simultaneously blowing up in China. The brands that China doesn't favor rarely release new things or just go out of business entirely.

[Anonymous No.10395078]

>>10394699
you mean the product request thing, right? how soon did they get back to you, if you don't mind me asking? i emailed them like a week and a half ago about jewelry in stock in japan and have yet to hear back.

[Anonymous No.10395085]

>>10393749
you bitch!

[Anonymous No.10395086]

>>10393749
You asshole was it the black and white meta one. You were the one who snatched it you whore

[Anonymous No.10395128]

>>10395078
This isn't relevant to right now but when I messaged them last year they got back to me in the same day and just asked for my email. Then all corresponding was done through email and they got me a dress that was sold out.

But now its probably different.

[Anonymous No.10395268]

What's with lolita threads being a total wreck lately? Honestly, that shit is barely readable.

[Anonymous No.10395289]

>>10395268
cgl is straight up clown world these days

[Anonymous No.10395392]

So when is a good time to ask for a refund? I bought some items from a seller in Australia 4 weeks ago and they stopped responding back to me 2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.10395396]

>>10395268
Seems to me like a lot of gulls are having quarantine-related mental breakdowns.

[Anonymous No.10395397]

>>10395268
Jannies and mods are gone and/or straight up ignoring reports and the same handful of noobs endlessly shit up the main threads with their hot takes.

[Anonymous No.10395401]

Updates from AP Candy blog.

[Anonymous No.10395402]

Some upcoming jewellery angelic pretty is releasing. I saw people complaining about what was done for chateau decume, but this seems cute, more of what you'd like to expect from ap

[Anonymous No.10395403]

>>10395397
idk, everything I've reported has been deleted. I've really only been reporting entire threads, though, maybe they're ignoring posts.

[Anonymous No.10395404]

>>10395402
Someone else posted oops >>10395401

[Anonymous No.10395405]

>>10395404
And then some dresses (or skirts idk), I really like the yellow one

[Anonymous No.10395412]

>>10395086
>>10395085

Whew, that's some salt right there. I know this is probably bait but oof.

And no, it wasn't. Wasn't Meta either. The item wasn't even listed at ¥500. It was listed for way more but my SS got a note from them about the seller willing to lower the price for a small stain they didn't notice before.

[Anonymous No.10395413]

>>10395402

The rainbow ice cream ones look kind of like some shit you'd find at Claire's desu

But the bunny ice cream cones and bunny balloons are cute af (I'm imagining how cute the balloons would look with Cotton Candy Shop or something similar)

[Anonymous No.10395425]

>>10395401
I didn't realize she's still posting on her blog after retirement

[Anonymous No.10395432]

>>10395413
They rerelease the thing from 2014. I guess it belonged to Magical Etoile.

[Anonymous No.10395433]

>>10395432
Hm. I wonder if this hints at a rerelease?

[Anonymous No.10395437]

>>10395392
The one who listed a bunch of AP shit on eBay? Same. I’ve sent a final message a few days ago warning of filing a claim.

[Anonymous No.10395438]

>>10395432
I was just thinking that this would go perfect with it, I try not to buy AP jewelry outside of secondhand but I’ll make an exception this time.

[Anonymous No.10395439]

>>10395437
Yup, I'm there too

I got a good deal on one of her items , part of me feels like she felt they were TOO good of a deal lol

[Anonymous No.10395449]

>>10395392
>>10395437
I fucking knew it the second they refused to list on LM and made up a bullshit story that reeked of a previous scammer attempt in the bst thread. I'm sorry anons.

[Anonymous No.10395454]

>>10395437
Same. Her Australian buyers got her stuff so idk what's going on

[Anonymous No.10395459]

Hi i have a question. I live with my mom and she is quite ok with me wearing lolita. But she went nuts when she saw my peeling bloomers coord cause "it's too much even for you, people will think you are in some crazy sexual thing or something like that".
What should i do?

[Anonymous No.10395460]

>>10395459
*Peeking of course

[Anonymous No.10395464]

>>10395459
Wait till you get old enough to make your own decision about your own clothes

[Anonymous No.10395484]

>>10395438

These days it may turn out cheaper to buy it firsthand with how people scalp the popular stuff secondhand.

[Anonymous No.10395487]

>>10395459
Ignore her? You're presumably an adult if you're on this board, she can't control what you wear

[Anonymous No.10395490]

>>10395459
You probably should stop wearing it.

[Anonymous No.10395501]

>>10395401
>>10395402
>>10395404
I was wondering when the Ice Cream Parlor jewelry would come out. The ice cream necklace is what I pointed out on the tea party models a long time ago.

Honestly this just makes me more depressed though. All of this is going to be impossible to get. There's going to be a bunch listed on mercari/fril about two seconds after the release for $300-$400. I can't deal with how dumb AP is about their releases. At this point, the jewelry should be a MTO so 50% of it isn't owned by people who's only motive is to re-sell. I give up.

[Anonymous No.10395506]

>>10395501

Does jewelry not have limits on purchases the way other items do? Or what exactly makes the jewelry more of a scalper target than main pieces?

I'm interested in the magical etoile bunny stuff and not much else because it seems more versatile than the ice cream one

[Anonymous No.10395519]

>>10395506
I'm not sure exactly about the limits, but in the end it doesn't matter if they just re-sell one at a super high price, or get their friends and family to also buy pieces to re-sell. There's always ways to get around the limits.
There's just a lot of listings lately where jewelry is being sold at higher prices than dresses themselves, so I'm reacting to that.

[Anonymous No.10395527]

>>10392523
Do you have the pic?

[Anonymous No.10395613]

Can someone with Gothic&Lolita Bible Vol. 58-60 possible have a look for AP's Magical Princess in them? Thinking about buying one of those volumes but only if they have pictures of the print.

[Anonymous No.10395620]

>>10395413
You're really obsessed with Claire's. I keep seeing you post about everything being from Claire's recently.

>>10395425
Announcing retirement doesn't necessarily mean immediate retirement

[Anonymous No.10395630]

>>10395613
58 does not have It, anon. They have British and chess emblem on It.

[Anonymous No.10395633]

https://youtu.be/AcAO6FWHsnU

Hmm

[Anonymous No.10395638]

>>10395405
I hope AP using yellow more means they’ll release yellow shoes and cardigans/blouses again

[Anonymous No.10395642]

>>10395620

Idk who else mentioned Claire's, but I said that because of how childlike and simple the design of that one piece with the rainbow looks. Everything else seems on par with AP's usual stuff.

[Anonymous No.10395644]

>>10395633
>please say something about my video and give me attention guise, expect another wave or rallying newfags btw teehee
No. This is literally 5 year old drama.

[Anonymous No.10396045]

Does anyone know how to view old Closet Child purchases? The links in my history are no longer active and searching item number doesn't work. I bought them within the last 2 months so they're not super old

[Anonymous No.10396053]

>>10395433
I hope so but it’s more likely the molds worked well with their recent releases so it’s a cost efficient way to pump out new merch

[Anonymous No.10396055]

>>10395633
Why? The whole video is cringe

[Anonymous No.10396060]

>>10395487
uh her mom could easily kick her out. if you live with your parents, you need to follow their rules

[Anonymous No.10396064]

>>10395633
These "newer" lolitas who joined after 2010 and obsess over drama are so pathetic. If your contribution to this community is fueled by a lust for drama, you're better off gone. Like seriously? 32 minutes of digging up ancient drama? that's just...so....embarrassing. Go back to your facebook tag groups where you belong. Please.

[Anonymous No.10396106]

>>10396045
Log into your account and go into it from the top left menu, order history should be at the very top of your account page. I can view old orders from the last year still through there.

[Anonymous No.10396129]

Have we seen this dress before? I might be dumb because I've turned a blind eye to recent AP releases, but this actually looks decent. The JSK could be really good. I don't remember it in the most recent Tea Party fashion show.

>>10396045
>>10396106
I think anon is saying that those past order links on the items don't work.

My orders are the same way. There's some items that are less than a month old and I can't get to the original listing to view the item condition, etc. It seems random. Some items I ordered that are 3+ months old still have the listing page active. I've messed with the urls and sometimes I can find the old, large images of the items, but I can't get back to the listing page.

[Anonymous No.10396187]

>>10396129

Them wristcuffs tho...the last Lyrical bunny wristcuffs release was phone reservation only. I hope the U.S. gets some of the jewelry and these...

[Anonymous No.10396286]

>>10396053
I'd be down too, I'd love to see the red or navy get a rerelease. We can hope!

[Anonymous No.10396367]

next thread >>10396270