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It seems as if the era of 2008-2012 era sweet is back upon us. Lets share coordinates, discuss the differences in how the style is worn now vs back then, and what we like/dislike about iit

What is Deco-Lolita?
>A crossover between decora fashion and lolita fashion that gained popularity around 2007
>Usually involves a large amount of accesories, occasional colored wigs, layering and use of toys as props or accessories

What is OTT Sweet Lolita?
>A sweet lolita coordinate worn to it's most dressed up potential
>Gained a lot of popularity around 2010.
>Usually involves heavier makeup, use of a wig or very full hair
>Usually involves a "full" coordinate worn as a set, OP or JSK

What is the difference?
>The main difference is that Deco-lolita involves higher levels of accessorization and color coordination. Deco-lolita is also older.

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Take my descriptions with a grain of salt, they aren't set in stone, just what I believe is the common difference between the two. Some people don't consider them seperate, and some people don't think Deco-lolita counts as lolita at all.

And what people consider OTT is varied, some people would consider any coordinate with a wig as OTT, and other wouldn't. I encourage discussion but keep derailing to a minium.

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For example, I wouldn't consider this OTT, but I do think it has deco-lolita elements (face stickers and layered socks)

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>>10389884
CGL seems to be constantly claiming that this era of sweet is "coming back" but where is the evidence for that? Other than Ice Cream Parlor, I haven't seen brands releasing this style lately at all

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>>10389951
Well, other brands never really did release this style. Sure, BTSSB and Meta tried, theres a few of their releases that were in the deco and OTT circulation, but for the most part this is an AP exclusive style.

And I think this style is coming back, even without new releases. Dresses from this era are going up in price on the secondhand market. I see Sugary Carnival and Milky Planet starting to sell for upwards of $300 again, when before they'd dipped to under $200 for some colorways. The prices in the Japanese market for those prints are also increasing.

And even without new dresses, I see Japanese lolitas in the tags rewear classic prints in deco/OTT ways. Plus, Ice Cream Parlour was such a hit i am sure that AP with release it again and they'll make more along that vein in the future.

Pic related, taken recently from the twitter of a Japanese lolita.

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>>10389892
>>10389946
I'm a big fan of split-color legwear, footwear, etc. It's so cute.

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>>10389884
Anyone know of Taobao brands that sell dresses in this similar style? Other than the infamous Unicorn Macaron dress.

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>>10389983
There’s several if you know where to look, here’s a new one from a brand called Thinking Sheep

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>>10389986
The JSK in black

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>>10389983
Blouse and headband from a brand called Miss Point

(I’m getting this info from the Loki Doki FB page)

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>>10389983
Doll’s Party - Rainbow Circus

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>>10389983
Fantasy - Sweet Kiss

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>>10389983
Cat’s Broom - Baby Doll’s On The Wall

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>>10389983
CreamLollipop - Cream Cake

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>>10389983
AliceGirl - Kitten Tea Party

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>>10389983
Antique Cat - Strawberry Cat

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i found these coords at the bottom of my high school jewelry trunk, i hope you enjoy

>>10389962
fantastic

>>10389978
nice

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>>10390012
Strawberry Cake not Strawberry Cat*

Monbass - Rabbit Candy

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Where does everyone get accessories these days? I don't think Chocomint is still around, DokiDoki doesn't seem to focus on accessories much anymore. I know these days everyone is all about the resin jewelry, but what about hairbows, and necklaces?

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Requesting more not so pastel outfits like this >>10389894

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Thanks!

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>>10390038
I usually hate deco/OTT, but this is so freaking cute, I love it.

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>>10389909
I used to love this girl's coordinates back in the day, her color balancing always struck me as pretty brilliant. Is she still around somewhere?

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>>10390228
Last i checked, Lunie doesn’t wear Lolita anymore and is/was a full time tattoo artist

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>>10390233
Well anon, my heart is broken, but you've helped me find all her old content again cause I definitely forgot her name. Thanks!

>> No.10390330

>>10389982
Does anybody still make similar wigs to this? I know the Dreamholic Hime Ringo is similar but it isn't as long.

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>>10390330
Is Prisila still around? Chances are that is a bang clip and two half wigs, not a full wig

>> No.10390433

>>10389956
Yes, but also the prices on the Japanese market are going up for everything, especially once western lolitas started buying. Just the difference between this year and the last is very different across all genres and brands.

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>>10390433
>>10390433
but its not absolutely everything. it's focused on the dresses that suit OTT sweet and this specific era.

At the most recent AP tea party in December, several coords are reminiscent of this era. That to me says this style is having a bit of a resurgence

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Loli can combine with lol from stein gate
Instagram: fanny_itoshiki

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>>10390426
they are but they don't make clip in ponytails.

>> No.10390494

>>10390471
how about instead of self-promoing in every thread you just fucking neck yourself.

>> No.10390500

>>10390471
at least attempt to post on-topic content if you're going to try to beg for e-fame

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>>10390491
yes but most girls used the half wigs as ponytails, gyaru girls did it too.

>> No.10390551

>>10390526
no, most girls just use the ponytail wigs that aren't clips. there used to be other brands (including in asia) that had those wigs anon mentioned.

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>>10390551
Not Japanese lolitas. The shapes of the clip on ponytail and half wig are completely different and clip ons haven’t achieved that yet.

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>>10390551

listen to >>10390606, they're right

half wigs have that bubble effect when worn as ponytails, they're really rounded on top with lots of volume, and thin/tapered at he bottom. ponytail clips are usually solid and in one chunk. Japanese ponytail clips lack layers, the proper volume and length to get that look.

>>10390600
half wig worn as ponytail

>>10390038
>>10389960
>>10389900
ponytail clip

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Here is an old Cyperous tutorial on how to get that teased ponytail effect with just one wig

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>>10391040
wtf is that... bib?

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>>10391044
yeah and the sceptre is a baby rattle. keep in mind japanese lolitas dont worry about adult baby or fetish motifs.

>> No.10391137

>>10391043
>"damn bitch you live like this?"

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>>10391137
thats probably some kind of goth or music club

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>> No.10391602

>>10391139
it's a kitchen...

>> No.10391608

>>10391602
Looks like a gross club bathroom to me, and Takulu was a pretty big cosplayer/lolita active in the vkei scene

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>>10391602
I too keep my fire hydrant hanging on the wall in my kitchen.

>> No.10391663

>>10391660
why the hell would you need one outside of the kitchen?? you know, where the stove is.

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>>10391663
I just realized I called a fire extinguisher a fire hydrant and I also don't have one in my apartment. Maybe you're just well prepared and I'm an idiot; but that looks like a club, not a kitchen.

>> No.10391730 [DELETED] 

>>10389986
What dress is this?

>> No.10391738

>>10391672
You should have a fire extinguisher of some kind, please take care of yourself.

And it could be an area with a kitchen or somewhere with counters, it doesnt look like a home someone is living in by far.

>> No.10391742

>>10391139
I vaguely remember the original post from Yaplog, and can confirm it was some sort of club

>> No.10391826

>>10391672
i didn't say it was anything. just pointing out fire extinguishers are generally kept in the kitchen if you own them...

>> No.10392075

>>10391602
It looks like it's probably the backstage area of some sort of club/venue

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Any coords with sandals?

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>> No.10397020

>>10389884
Anon you can't force trends.. I've been meming about 2010 sweet OTT eventually making a comback in the future about 2 years ago, but at the moment everyone is still hung up on oldschool and moitie and that won't change unless someone pretty gets efamous or a lot of attention for wearing it.

>> No.10397028

>>10397020
You’re ignoring the evidence I posted in this thread of an OTT sweet revival? Rising secondhand prices, Japanese lolitas showing interest....read >>10389956 please

>> No.10397102

>>10397020
>someone pretty gets efamous or a lot of attention for wearing it
Every newbie I’ve talked to this year learned about lolita from lor so get fuckin ready for a lot of bad OTT

>> No.10397126

>>10397020
Do you think the old school and moitie trends would exist without an online fanbase of paying customers? Baby didn’t randomly start making the classical series dresses out of nowhere, there was demand. AP pays attention to demand, otherwise we never would’ve gotten a Honey Cake release (which wasn’t a popular series back in the day). Ice Cream Parlour sold out fast and immediately got an MTO. Last year AP had the 50s inspired Milkshake series which the western lolitas didn’t like much but the Japanese lolitas ate it up, and that’s why this year we got Neon Star Diner (which was also similar to Fancy Candy, another huge release).

AP is riding the retro trend and the OTT sweet revival in 2020 and 2021

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>> No.10397847

>>10390014
>I found
Did YOU really find them or are you just reposting this from somewhere else?

>> No.10397959

>>10397126
Ice Cream Parlor has not gotten an MTO, why do people keep saying it has? Check your facts.

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deco hair inspo

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>> No.10398801

>>10390052
hairbows i just buy the one that matches the dress or one that fits. all my hairclips, necklaces, bracelets and other accessories I've been making myself. i feel like there's a hole in the market for proper 2010 ap or chocomint style accessories, at least in the western communities

>> No.10398802

>>10391047
what dress is this?

>> No.10398803

>>10391672
This photo is so wholesome. It makes me miss going out in lolita with my friend on the weekend

>> No.10398806

>>10398803
you're fucking wholesome you cutie.

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>>10398802
miracle candy triple frill
https://lolibrary.org/items/ap-miraclecandy-triple-frill-jsk

>> No.10398820

>>10390052
Chocomint is still around but for some reason closed their Rakuten and social media. You can buy them through Closet Child (thought they're not called Chocomint, I think they're just labeled "original item" or something like that?) and Dreamy Bows.
I'd love to know why they decided to do that since Chocomint has always been seriously popular, even now they're hard to find at the CC physical stores. And why continue to sell through Closet Child but remove their brand name entirely? So weird.

>> No.10398975

>>10398820
Thank you, I didn’t know they were still around in that form, but there’s hardly anything left on closet child, that’s depressing. I hope they come back for real in some form. There’s always a market for cute bows even outside lolita.

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>>10390052
Lolitacollective has some accessories with these 2010 OTT vibes, and they're having a sale on Monday. I feel fucking stupid cause I put in an order last week instead of waiting.

>> No.10398999

>>10398820
it's not that they're selling on closet child, they are defunct but the previous owner still hand makes items, including older designs. most chocomint stuff is really easy to DIY, but she doesn't sell online anymore because of volume.

>> No.10399003

>>10398987
It's just free shipping, not a sale really

>> No.10399080

>>10398999
Chocomint was all handmade by one person??

>> No.10399090

>>10399080
no, it's just handmade now since the company is gone.

>> No.10399100

>>10398999
chocomint was a "brand" of things that closet child found and sold - it was all just taobao/korean market stuff they found and monopolized the suppliers on - but they couldn't keep up with the MOQs when their business faded so they had to close it
they linked lolitabutiken with the suppliers but she couldn't keep up with the moq

>> No.10399102

>>10398987
they just offered to refund someone's shipping so maybe you should contact them and they'll refund yours

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>>10399100
chocomint was making their own things at some point I think. They had 6%DOKIDOKI star clip knockoffs and also sold candles and sweet themed jewelry under a seperate label called RibbonHolic. I don't think it was just taobao replicas, chocomint was around even in the early deco days

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>>10399114
an example of their ribbonholic stuff

>> No.10399119

>>10399114
taobao(05/2003) was just a resource for manufacturers to create storefronts as part of the alibaba(04/1999) etc empire, we just use it as a term now for replicas and knockoffs but that wasn't always the case.

>> No.10399125

>>10399115
Oh this stuff is also on Closet Child iirc!
I suppose I'm glad the original owner is still around and creating stuff, despite it being in small batches. It's always sad when a brand is just completely wiped out.

>> No.10407625

>>10398801
I'm actually looking to make some hairclips too. I'm finding a lot of flatback resin accessories, but what kinds of clips do you attach them to?