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10331532 No.10331532 [Reply] [Original]

How do I deal with replica-chans when they pull out this
> don't you download pirate conent
> it's just clothes, take it easy

Even tho I do download pirate content, I try my best to avoid buying even shoes replicas. Shit like this basically devalue the effort I put into building my wardrobe.

>> No.10331533

just continue to flex on them for being poor and belittle them for not being able to afford legit burando. insult their replicas. make *them* feel bad. compare them to the generic walmart cereal knockoffs of the brand name ones.

>> No.10331537

>>10331533
I can't, that's class discrimination and dick behaviour overall

>> No.10331546

>>10331532
Compare quality of the fabric, I explain the importance of supporting the artist.
If they can't listen to that reason, dab on those itas and their wuflu dresses.

>> No.10331547

>>10331537
what exactly do you need help with in terms with dealing with them then?

>> No.10331551

>>10331532
Ask them how they'd feel if someone took their artwork and used it to make money with no effort. I've had my shit resold on ebay as "prints" before and it stings and sucks.

>> No.10331564

>>10331547
Idk, at first I was mad with these takes, but now I feel bad because these people might not have a privilege to afford brand, especially if there’re adults with a job in low paying area or have a kids that need to be supported.

>> No.10331565

>>10331564
If they can't afford brand there is taobao....or they could just choose not to participate in a luxury hobby?

>> No.10331568

>>10331564
do you also feel bad when you go out to eat because others might not be able to? or when you do anything? if you are so worried about class discrimination in a fucking hobby then i'd hate to know how you feel about actual important things.

>> No.10331569

>>10331565
Lolita is not a luxury hobby lol, it's just a hobby. Only slightly more expensive than normie clothes that weren't made by child slaves.

>> No.10331577

>>10331532
Comparing the two is stupid imo, pirated content is usually just for personal use, there’s very few people making profit and it’s usually just people burning disks at home, whereas when you buy a replica you’re financially supporting an industry that thrives on ripping off small businesses.

>> No.10331645

>>10331532
Why do people like you care so much what other people do? How does their buying a replica affect you at all?

>> No.10331656

>>10331645
How does people being mean to others affect you? How does people torturing cats affect you? There's nothing wrong with wanting things to be better for other beings and for society as a whole. Art theft hurts artists, simple.

>> No.10331660

>>10331656
>comparing replicas to literal violence
Really?

>> No.10331664

>>10331660
Lol no I'm not.
You said:
>Why do people like you care so much what other people do?
to which I provided a response indicating scenarios in which obviously you would care what someone else does.

>> No.10331666

>>10331532
>Even tho I do download pirate content
so your crime is morally superior to their crime somehow?

>> No.10331667

>>10331664
Torturing an animal is a heinous act that physically hurts another being. Buying a replica hurts an artist's feelings, I guess, but it isn't comparable to violence or trauma.

>> No.10331669

>>10331667
I honest to god wasn't trying to make a direct comparison, I was just refuting point A of anon's post by bringing the argument around to: yes, we do care in some cases what other people do.

What the line is is different for different people. Most people care if someone abuses an animal because that's a severely awful thing to do. Some people care if someone litters. Some people care if someone steals art. A few people might care if someone steals from Walmart.

>> No.10331677

Why on earth would you need replicas when you can get secondhand brand skirts for 2,000 yen easy and jsks for around 4,000. It might not be crazy pastel vomit ap but you will find things

>> No.10331682

>>10331564
You may not realize this but lolita clothing is not a necessity and no one is entitled to own it.

>> No.10331685

>>10331677
Because people want AP pastel vomit specifically. I can't think of any brand or taobao that makes anything exactly like AP style, that's why almost all replicas are AP.

>> No.10331693

>>10331569
if someone is poor then lolita would be as unaffordable as Dior....so to them lolita would count as a luxury wouldn't it?

>> No.10331694

I wish you Lolita fags had a separate board.

This entire post concept and subsequent replies (excluding my own) are vapid as fuck. I feel dumber reading it.

>> No.10331717

>>10331694
4chan in general is vapid as fuck, if you don't like it you can leave.

>> No.10331719

>>10331694
You want the whole board just for c(oom)splay? That's selfish.

>> No.10331746

>>10331694
c = cosplay
g = gothic
l = lolita

lolita is in the NAME of this board, if you just want wank material then go to /hr

>> No.10331760

>>10331694
>This entire post concept and subsequent replies (excluding my own) are vapid as fuck
sorry whos the vapid one here

>> No.10331863

>>10331693
Okay, so you are poor and that's why you call everything a luxury?

>> No.10331907

>>10331532
Ignore them. Itas were talking about about how lolita was too expensive and I tried to direct them to some affordable indie. "Oh, we'll go look and then find it cheaper on Amazon, anon." They deserve their ugly replicas.

>> No.10331913

>>10331685
There’s that colita brand but they’re fucking impossible to order from, they only sell through weibo or something like that

>> No.10331915

>>10331677
Everyone says this but I haven’t seen secondhand prices that low in years.

>> No.10331931

>>10331532
both purchasing replicas and sharing programs/culture online are fine. Don't fall for copyright trolls.
Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances.
If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

>> No.10331932

>>10331569
Nah let's be honest, a 300 dollar dress is a luxury when you could get a well made dress from a reputable brand for maybe 60-70 dollars.

>> No.10331945

>>10331913
They also only sell the one dress for some reason

>> No.10331953

>>10331931
Do we know if lolita companies actually even own the copyrights? In another hobby where I hear whining about this (BJD) we found out that most companies didn't bother to purchase the copyrights at all, therefore replica dolls aren't actually illegal. Probably the same with most lolita companies?

>> No.10331959

>>10331915
This. Why do people keep pushing this meme? The only ones being sold that low get snatched instantly. I never saw one skirt available for sale at 20euro in good condition.

>> No.10331965

>>10331959
It's if you're buying on y!ja, fril, mercari, occasionally closetchild has this sort of very cheap brand but you have to check daily. I've gotten a lot of main pieces around or under 5000 yen and you can get skirts for 2000-3000 on auction. Granted it's most likely to be IW, meta and old Baby, but if you like Meta prints the shirred skirts they do are extremely affordable secondhand.

>> No.10331973

>>10331959
You need to be very fast but it certainly exists.
I have gotten a great condition dress for just a bit more than 20 euro recently by being lucky recently.

>> No.10331998

>>10331959
Someone recently listed some VM, MM and AtePie stuff on Y!Japan recently as auctions with no buy it now option, I think all the items ended below 3000 yen

>> No.10332091

>>10331953
Good point.
IMO it's really sad that people fear sharing art because it could be illegal.