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It's that time again,here i go:

>sometimes i trace (only the basic stuff and from non lolita drawings in general to not get caught) my lolita art i get commissioned,not because i can't do it,i'm just lazy

>i have a problem that makes it that whenever i am left alone in someone's house i like to sneak around and i have the urge to steal something i find nice especially if it's a lolita i am not that much of a friend with.

Last meet i went to was at this girl's house and i pretended to go to the bathroom to just take a peak and i contemplated stealing one of her things but didn't because it'd cause trouble,it was right there in front of me and it was tempting but i didn't. I have morals to a certain point, i guess

>i intentionally make a girl trip at a meet before but she ended up badly scraping her knee thus bleeding on her brand socks really bad, not what i intended. I didn't feel guilty, she said something mean behind my back but i couldnt have possibly known if it wasn't for my alt account

>> No.10286721

>>10286718
Kleptomaniac or sociopath? Either way, go to therapy

>> No.10286723

>>10286721
Heh i'm fine the way i am but thank you for worrying

>> No.10286732

>>10286723
but other people are not okay with you being psycho. get help.

>> No.10286733

>>10286723
Nah you should kill yourself just to be safe

>> No.10286738

Money is really tight at the moment and I’m very much considering camming or doing sw to fund luxuries and hobbies. Lolita is my main hobby. I struggle a lot with people and social interaction and I’ve made so many friends through the fashion and it means so much to me. Being unable to attend meets right now is taking a huge toll on my mental health.

I’m very internet savvy and I’d be fine with hiding my identity and I’d be sure to keep things as far away from Lolita as possible. But I’m still really anxious about people finding out. I think if that did happen a majority of my comm wouldn’t bat an eyelash but there’s one girl in particular that would make it into a big deal and would probably turn others against me. She’s already caused a few problems within the comm with friendships and using people for money and AFAIK hasn’t been called out for any of it.

I’ve tried things like swagbucks and Qmee and selling crafts to make extra month but they don’t really work and getting an extra job isn’t really an option for me right now.

>> No.10286739

>>10286732
>>10286733
No, I don't think I will.
My soul is rotten and I frankly don't care as long as I am happy.

>> No.10286740

>>10286739
Found the autist who took Kamikaze Girls too seriously

>> No.10286744

>10286718
>sometimes i trace (only the basic stuff and from non lolita drawings in general to not get caught) my lolita art i get commissioned,not because i can't do it,i'm just lazy

as a fellow artist, this is enraging, fuck

>> No.10286745

>>10286738
If money is tight, the best thing to do would be to take a break from your luxurious hobbies, they are a luxury for a reason.

Try to be content with what you currently have and see if you can mix things up with your current wardrobe.

See if there is anywhere you can tighten your budget on, use coupons, see if there are essentials you can get at the dollar store if you aren't already doing so, and put a little money aside where you can to spend on hobbies here and there while you are in a rough patch.

You can of course cam if you want, it's all up to you what you do. But forget what your comm might think, what if your family and friends find out about it? Think of the consequences thoroughly and if you are okay with that happening.

>> No.10286750

>>10286740
Not exactly but i suppose this could be taken this way

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>>10286718
>didnt steal something because you know it wouldve caused trouble possibly for you
>pretend that it's because you have morals
>pretending that you can be happy while being immoral
you're just a trashy karen with some ruffle on you

>> No.10286753

>>10286738
It's really sad that women automatically feel like they need to do sex work to make extra money instead of improving themselves/their career instead. Is this how you were raised?

>> No.10286754

>>10286752
>>10286718
and to add to this these aren't even lolita confessions, just you being a shitty person passing through to your lolita hobbies

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10286755

I have a closet full of 20+ sweet lolita prints from 2010 and refuse to sell any of them because I know sweet's value is at an all time low

>> No.10286756

>>10286738
sell something you don't need
Money, dresses and objects will come back but passed memories and opportunities won't. Also don't do camming or sw if you don't have a serious goal or if you despreately need money. You will be taken advantage of, 100%.

>> No.10286760

>>10286738
Don't be a thot and objectify yourself,anon. Sell things or whatnot,work on your career.
Camming is trashy,sex workers are trashy and/or forced into it

>> No.10286761

>>10286752
Morale is just not doing things that appear profitable at first because they would mean trouble on the long term.

>> No.10286762

>>10286753
It's depressig that a woman is content with being meat and is ok to catering to the lowest of humanity. The sex work is very saturated since sex positivty is trendy right now, anon might be better off being an uber driver or something like most sex workers who usually just make minimum wage at best.

>> No.10286766

I once sold something and the buyer has been kind of rude through the whole transaction. First she tried to low ball, then she ghosted me and then when she finally bought it and I wanted to delay the shipping because I got the flu she threw a fit. I then sneezed and rubbed my tissues all over her bag and left one tissue in it, under the paper thing on the bottom and shipped it out on the same day.

>> No.10286767

>>10286755
Really? Why does old AP from that time still cost almost retail then?

>> No.10286775

>>10286744
not an artist but why is tracing so bad when it's just super basic?
A whole drawing i understand but just the bases are bad too?

>> No.10286779

>>10286775
Learning the basics takes years of dedication and practice.
Tracing is fine as a hobby. It's not OK to ride off of someone else's hard work for money, which is what OP does. Commissions.
It's disgusting.

>> No.10286784

>>10286755
What dresses are we talking about?

>> No.10286785

>>10286767
2010 BTSSB and Meta sweet prints have tanked, AP hasn't

>> No.10286786

>>10286779
oh i see yeah that's fucking nasty OP is a cunt

>> No.10286788

>>10286755
Uh. Depending on what you have, I might want it.

>> No.10286791

My confession is that I fucking hate people trying to buy shit in threads not made for buying shit. It's annoying as fuck, especially when gulls say that they don't feel like sellling stuff and dumbasses like >>10286788 go "Im gOnNa pAy GoOd MoNeY fOr It!!". No you're not. Also if they wanted to sell they'd be in the buy/sell/trade thread. UGH

>> No.10286796

>>10286791
lol stay mad poorfag

>> No.10286799

>>10286718
It sounds like you didn't steal because you're worried about what the consequences would be for you, not because you don't want her to be robbed. Extremely self-centered. Same with the tracing, it's disrespectful to the people who pay you but you don't care as long as you don't get caught.

>> No.10286800

>>10286791
lmao why are you so mad? If the person isn’t willing to sell they can just ignore it like you should have

>> No.10286803

>>10286800
It's just stupid. No one's gonna sell you sought-after shit in a cgl thread. But stay thirsty for that burando you're too poor to just buy on LM I guess.

>> No.10286805

>>10286738
Nevermind what anyone else thinks about you, I'd be worried about how you feel about yourself and how camming would affect your mental health.

>> No.10286807

>>10286803
why would I buy secondhand brand when I can buy it new? I’m nayrt originally, I just think you’re a rude bitch.

>> No.10286808

>>10286803
Nayrt but I'd be willing to fork over $500 for my DD. Last two times it sold for $100 and I missed them both. I just want it, and it makes sense to tell someone who's already thinking of selling it that you're willing to buy it for a high price

>> No.10286812

>>10286807
If you could you wouldn't be talking about it.
>>10286808
I bet you're one of the bitches who asks people wearing your DD if they would sell it to you. So rude.

>> No.10286813

>>10286812
you’re a salty little thing, aren’t you? Stay poor

>> No.10286816

>>10286812
Damn that's some crazy projection you have going on. I'd never ask someone to sell me my DD unless they outright said they were thinking of selling it or were selling it.

>> No.10286823

cool to see one of my less popular lolita reaction redraws get some usage

anyway, here’s mine:
>daily lolita, usually full poof and accessorized (blouse+main piece+headgear+wristwear+proper hosiery+proper shoes minimum, more accessories like hair clips or jewelry depending on mood) but never ever wear makeup unless going to a large comm meet or con
>i’m still learning the correct methods and etiquette for washing and taking care of quality clothes properly, so a good portion of my dresses and clothes, including some brand, have stains i can’t/don’t yet know how to get out, or mysterious small black stains i assume to be burns from back when i used to toss things in the dryer on high heat or careless ironing. i tore up several pantyhose tights beyond wearability by also throwing them unprotected in the washing machine and dryer. i also shrank a warm 100% wool btssb cardi by doing the same thing, though i thankfully managed to unshrink it by janky wikihow methods and wear it regularly again!
a lot of my dresses also have mysterious loose or pulled threads sticking out and idk if that’s due to my clumsiness/carelessness or defects in the clothes, but i just pull them out or cut them in the hopes it won’t damage further. now i obviously at least have the foresight to turn my dresses inside out and put them in protective laundry bags, i hang them up to air dry instead of throwing into the washer, and i use a steamer instead of an iron where i could burn more things. still, thank goodness a lot of the pieces i regularly wear and thus regularly have to wash are ones i plan to wear and keep until they fall apart for life, not ones i plan to resell.

also fuck you op for making money tracing other people’s work

>> No.10286826

>>10286823
>i tore up several pantyhose tights beyond wearability by also throwing them unprotected in the washing machine and dryer. i also shrank a warm 100% wool btssb cardi by doing the same thing

aaaaaAAAAAAAA

I'm glad to hear you improved your care methods but oh no

>> No.10286827

I hate hate HATE the traditional gothic bluexblack colour scheme. idk why, but it just looks wrong, especially since that shade of blue is such a dark blue. I think it's because it reminds me of mixing neutrals? like bluexblack is more ugly to me than ivoryxwhite or blackxbrown
As a gothic lolita myself, I just wear blackxred, blackxwhite, blackxblack or literally any other color combo

>> No.10286829

>>10286823
Yeah, as an artist and also a human, fuck OP.

>> No.10286839

>>10286718
as someone who's been drawing for 12 years, you're "not getting caught" everyone can tell that your art is traced, they're just not saying anything. Traced art has a certain "look" to it. It's difficult to put into words and is more of something that you have to have an eye for, but people who have been artists for several years can easily tell at a glance that you have no fucking clue what you're doing.

>> No.10286842

>>10286839
Pfft. Who are you fooling.

>> No.10286847

>>10286839
Clearly the people spending money on the art aren't artists or don't have good knowledge on the art community, that's how they fall for it. Artists only get called out when they have enough of a following as well.

>> No.10286848

>>10286839
Seconding this, t b h. It's usually super easy to spot.

>> No.10286855

>>10286791
>>10286803
>>10286812
Sounds like someone in a thread made a higher offer that you can't afford. What's your DD?

>> No.10286863

>>10286761
no,its not doing something wrong just because it's wrong

>> No.10286868

>>10286761
that’s not what morale is. Nor is it what morality is.

>> No.10286871

Honestly, I mostly started in this fashion to stalk my ex's girlfriend.

I do have a genuine love for the fashion now and realise that I'm a full on psychopath, so I'm getting help with my obsessive tendencies and I've been on antipsychotics until I could no longer afford them, but if it wasn't for spite against a rich p*lish Girl who my ex chose over me because she could buy him a fursuit, I would never have my closet of ruffles

>> No.10286872

>>10286738
I'm not gonna slut shame you but I have to say, the cam market is very oversaturated so you might not make enough money

>> No.10286890

>>10286871
In Canada we have a thing called plan G which pays for mental health medications for low/no income people

you should ask your doctor if there's anything like that where you are

>> No.10286901

>>10286890
most countries don't have anything like that. especially not america.

>> No.10286910

I hate brolitas. I hate transwomen. Both are men and both creep me the fuck out but i cannot say or do anything because it's not uwu and peecee.
Fuck men invading our spaces. 99% of the time they never look good and just like creeps in dresses, trans or "brolita".
Also the term brolita is super retarded.

I also hate genderspecials because they manage to look either tacky or downright disgusting all the time and they bring the quality of a comm picture down

>> No.10286915

>>10286767
Havent been in the community for a while so wouldnt know honestly
>>10286784
The only one I remember the name of is milky planet, the rest I will have to check through lolibrary for

>> No.10286916

>>10286910
yep

>> No.10286917

>>10286901
Exactly. We just let them roam the streets unmedicated and in full-on psychosis and then wonder why we have a homeless problem

>> No.10286918

>>10286910
Agree

>> No.10286919

I once bought a damaged dress, took it to the dry cleaner to get cleaned and then pretended they damaged the dress and they agreed to fix it for free

>> No.10286945

>>10286910
You ain't getting any disagreement from me, lady. Keep em out.

>> No.10286948 [DELETED] 

>>10286910
Agree. Post-op full-on women can come, but no one with a penis please.

>> No.10286950

>>10286910
same, agreed 100% but as a fairly liberal person in a very liberal area, I can never say this out loud

>> No.10286953

OP, I’m drawing a girl in Lolita right now. Drawing her and the dress isn’t difficult. If I see you tracing, I’m calling you out, that’s ridiculous. Maybe if you learned how to draw better, you could get more customers and charge more.

>> No.10286955

>>10286919
You sound proud of yourself. Most dry cleaners are small businesses and even small thievery like this hurts them.

>> No.10286963

I was the original person that samefagged threads to hell and back hating on "brolitas" that are just sissy fetishists pretending to be "totally cool gender non comforming guys" or pretending to trans women.
I dont care what someones gender identity is, just dont look like shit and dont be creepy. Sissies should frankly be shot and overall just make trans people look bad.
I feel bad for the hate genuine trans people get in the community, because I know a few solo jfashionistas that actually look like women and dress well, but without gatekeeping you have men putting on lingerie, talking about cumming in their bloomers and preying on teens.
I feel both guilty for what ive done due to transphobia being more normalized in the communites, yet thankful since some lolita communities started screening men or anyone who looks like one.

>> No.10287013

I've been in this fashion for over 10 years and I don't know how to wear a headbow, I wore one for the first time this year and it looked ok but I was still worried I looked like a helicopter the whole day, I haven't even touched bonnets yet.

>> No.10287018

I have a shopping addiction

>> No.10287020

>>10287018
So does every lolita here

>> No.10287021

>>10287013
Then what have you been wearing on your head for 10 years?
Btw I find it helps to tilt the head hand forward

>> No.10287033

>>10287021
Headbands, clip in bows, floral clips etc and just getting creative with my actual hairstyles, thank god I don't wear sweet so I can get away with it but it's a little embarrassing desu.

>> No.10287038

>>10287033
whoops

>> No.10287051

>>10286890
I live in Australia and we have PBS scripts but I'm not eligible cause I have BPD and not schizophrenia

>> No.10287053

>>10286910
I hate one trans woman in particular cause she's a controlling bitch to her boyfriend and is a lazy piece of shit who wont get on centerlink cause its "demeaning" but also wont get a job either so she bludges off her mommy and I'm worried it's starting to make me hate regular non agp trans women.

There's a trans girl in my comm and I love her and I wanna be friends with her but now I have a bias because of one lazy bitch.

>> No.10287055

>>10286950
same girl same

>> No.10287054

>>10287053
Samefag, I hate NEETs more than I hate dole bludgers because at least some bludgers usually don't live at home with mommy

>> No.10287064

>>10286910
I never minded genuine brolitas. I mean, the guys who take the fashion very seriously and put a lot of effort into looking good. This is an alternative fashion and many of the founders were men themselves.

But nowadays there are so many sissies and really creepy trans people trying to force their way into lolita spaces. And I don't mean just ~wah there's trannies in my special facebook group wah~ but like people in milanoo-tier fetish garbage trying to be the Cool Kidz and gain a following, crying oppression if anyone points out their predatory behavior.

>> No.10287066

>>10286910
How do you feel about Mana and Novala Takemoto?

>> No.10287068

>>10287054
Have fun paying rent lmao

>> No.10287072

Kinda piggybacking off of this >>10287018 but I really hate how cutiefied shopping addictions are in our fashion and I wish treating it like that could be called out in a way that doesn't cause a shitstorm. No, checking second hand websites 200 times a day, getting anxious about missing out, impulse buying $500 hauls you don't even want anymore when they arrive, buying because you're depressed, buying so much you can't even store it anymore let alone wear it, forgetting about the things you own and forgetting about things you bought is not cute or normal. It's a mental illness.

>> No.10287082

>>10287072
I read "So Pretty/Very Rotten" recently and it has some good takes on this.

>> No.10287083

>>10287072
This, impulse spending is usually indicative of mental disorders and it's very unhealthy. There are girls in my comm who impulse spend and never wear the same main piece twice and I honestly feel awful for them

>> No.10287085 [DELETED] 

>>10286948
I don’t want someone who is so mentally ill they cut their penis off and pretend to be a woman around me.

Fuck the fuck off.

>> No.10287088
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>>10286766
>germ warfare
I like you.

>> No.10287091

>>10287066
Novala gives me creep pedo vibes

>> No.10287097

>>10287066
takemoto is a druggie and can fuck off

>> No.10287188

>>10286799
Isn't that the reason why most people don't steal? I'm sure many have been tempted to just grab something without paying for it, but they don't do it because that's fucking illegal and there are consequences to getting caught. I guess incentivizing people to align their self-interest with social mores is "selfishness" now. Sounds like the system is working just fine.

Regardless, I'm glad you didn't steal OP. It's good that you have some morals and can reflect on your actions.

>>10286963
You're not the only person who feels this way. Even if you samefagged all day long, it wouldn't have caught on unless other people in the community similarly cared about it. Seeing how often shit goes down with sissies online and in comms, I've realized how common it is for people to openly try to prey on lolitas. I'm glad gulls are talking about it.

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>>10286718
>not because i can't do it,i'm just lazy
Tracers always think they're good, even when not tracing, it's both sad and hilarious.

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>>10287085
If this person resembles a man in any way to you, I'm not sure what to say.

>> No.10287199 [DELETED] 

>>10287196
Uh, I’m not sure if this is supposed to be serious or not but the skull shape and features are definitely masculine. Skull reshaping is pretty high risk surgery so it’s rarely done and it’s not a bad look over all, but clearly leaning towards male. Generally female and male skulls differ more than most people realize and it’s not hard to see if you know anything about bone structure.

>> No.10287201

I have sex in my lolita XD XD XD
I also drink beer in my lolita :)))))))))
It's fun to do unladylike things like that in my lolita because it's the last thing you would expect! Lol! And i don't even do it for attention! Im the most unladylike lolita!

>> No.10287202

I'm a camwhore and I wear lolita while I cam. I've had fans buy me some brand, too.

>> No.10287203

>>10287201
Imagine thinking you’re special because you drink beer while wearing clothes.

>> No.10287205

>>10287203
Imagine letting jokes fly over your head because you have autism

>> No.10287207

>>10287205
ayrt and I know it’s a joke. I’m sorry you’re taking out your own autism and self-hatred on me :/

>> No.10287212

>>10287207
Sure ya did. Back to your hugbox aspie.

>> No.10287213

>>10287212
I can recognize a copypasta when I see one, sorry for taking away the one thing you thought was special about yourself

>> No.10287214
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10287214

At an event, a girl asked after my lolita best friend whom I have a lot of pictures with. I quickly realised she thought we were dating. I didn't correct her.

I occasionally get similar messages on IG. I just like the messages and don't reply. If people can't be assed to check her profile and see that she has a very lovely boyfriend, then we might as well be a lolita power couple in their minds.

>> No.10287218

>>10287213
>copypasta
Oh lawd lol

>> No.10287233 [DELETED] 

>>10287199
Yeah that neanderthal brow is pretty uncommon in women and common in men. Have only seen a couple women with it ever

>> No.10287243 [DELETED] 

>>10287196
I bet he looks botched af irl

>> No.10287248

I hope I don’t get shit for this but, genuinely hate when Lolitas don’t cover their tattoos or do inappropriate things while wearing the fashion. Vulgarities and gross humor.
I also think Lor is trying to ruin the fashion by trying to make it all encompassing when it honestly shouldn’t be. Now we have dykes in clown makeup and cowboy hats thinking that is in any way creative or interesting to look at.

>> No.10287254

I worry that my comm thinks I’m prissy / judgemental / nofunallowed.jpg as I never pull silly faces when told to in group pictures, but it’s really because I’m autistic and freeze up in certain social situations. I’ve been practicing silly faces and poses in the mirror before meet-ups but in the moment I panic and my mind goes completely blank. I can't help but wish we’d stop doing silly group pics altogether. My lolita comm is the only group I’ve known that insists on them every time.

>> No.10287255

>>10287254
When in doubt, stick your tongue out

>> No.10287258

>>10287248
>I hope I don't get shit for this
i hope nobody has opinions about my opinions

>> No.10287264 [DELETED] 

I used to think brolitas and traps were really cool and was genuinely disappointed to see how batshit insane they ate in person. Like, they are absolutely fucking nuts, and egocentric on top of it all. Every single one is a walking cluster b. I actually got into an argument with one of them once about how mtf do not get periods. He was insisting that taking hormones turns you into a biological female, i asked him why he has a dick if he's a woman and he got waaaaaay too angry. Shit like this makes me uncomfortable having them in lolita, not gonna lie. They are definitely mentally ill and not getting treatment for it.

>> No.10287265

>>10287248
Don’t be a pansy. I hate exposed tattoos too though, especially with sweet.

>> No.10287292

>>10287254
I relate to this so much. The same thing happens to me with these silly photos, I always stand there with a blank expression and it worries me what other people think. I wish this wasn’t so popular.

>> No.10287297 [DELETED] 

>>10287264
Maybe dude had a mega STI and was pissing blood. Maybe he thought it really do be like that.

>> No.10287303

>>10286871
Wow anon that's a really strange story

It's not very often I hear about men leeching off of women, what a lucky furfag.

>> No.10287310

>>10287199
Do some of you lot ever sit back and listen to yourselves?
No idea who the girl in the picture is, but she clearly doesn't look like a man

>> No.10287316

>>10287310
yeah I was gonna say, she looks extremely feminine. Maybe to these weaboos it’s smol Asian face or bust when it comes to femininity.

>> No.10287320 [DELETED] 

>>10287196
I think she looks great but if you think the average trans woman looks anything like a real woman you're deluding yourself

>> No.10287325

Recently I had a really annoying buyer, who took ages to pay and reply and was about to flake. As a revenge I took my time with shipping.

>> No.10287331 [DELETED] 

>>10287196
If transwomen weren't batshit and looked like this i would have no issue whatsoever,hell,i'd even consider dating one. but 99% look like shit and/or are insane on top of egocentric as fuck (i mean,they are men,so).
But now with PC uwu culture you gotta accept everybody and wax their balls or you're a bigot

>> No.10287333

>>10287188
I mean that's the reason who most people don't steal from big chain stores and such, where your theft isnt actually really effecting anyone, but I'd hope peopl's motives about not stealing fron actual people are a bit different?

>> No.10287349

>>10287333
Rule of thumb is if you’re going to steal, do it from places that don’t matter, like Walmart. Stealing from small businesses is scummy and stealing from people you know who trust you in their home is even scummier.

>> No.10287351

>>10287188
Most people don't steal from someone's home because they don't want the people they visit to lose their stuff

>> No.10287355

>>10287097
Smoking a joint every now and then = drug addict?

Lmao

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>>10287233
>>10287199
>>10287243
OK fine what about pic related? She's less traditionally pretty but that's a woman

>> No.10287358

>>10287355
The delusion on this board, I swear

>>10287248
The unpopular opinion is liking tattoos in lolita

>> No.10287377

>>10287091
>>10287097
>no real criticism
>can’t say shit about Mana cause your retarded bias would fall apart
Aight.

>> No.10287382

I lie about everything here and have yet to get called out on it lol. Thank you anons who indulge me.

>> No.10287386

>>10286791
I agree, it’s just flat out rude for someone to say “I won’t sell it/ don’t want to sell it” and people immediately are like “but lol I want it sell it to meee”

>> No.10287389

>>10287349
My thoughts exactly!!

>> No.10287392

>>10286755
I know you said you have 20+ prints but do you happen to have any 2010 era AP sweet NON prints? Bc I would be willing to fork over money for those.

>> No.10287395

>>10287386
Most of the time they say they want to sell it but for a high price, not that they don't want to sell

See:
>>10277361
>>10283441

>> No.10287399

>>10287392
>tfw struggled to sell nwt nonprint 2010 AP at $50 two years ago
>tfw struggled to sell old school AP at $50 two years ago
>tfw see those dresses I sold going for 150 now
I hate trends.

>> No.10287405 [DELETED] 

>>10287357
>that jawline
>artificially lowered forehead
>dark moustache area
>neck muscles popping
did you even try

>> No.10287406 [DELETED] 

>>10287310
Please take an anatomy class

>> No.10287408

>>10286910
Agree on brolitas. Don't give a flying fuck about trans women and am really sick of hearing about them.

>> No.10287411 [DELETED] 

>>10287331
Tbh, I feel like there's a line between actual trans women and straight up autogynephiles

Like people like Jessica Yaniv or every annoying "I'm a smol anime catgirl uwu gimme headpats" trans woman? Total A AGPs. I'm not a terf but if every trans woman was like this I fucking would be Jesus Christ.

People like Blaire White? Normal well adjusted people who recognise they're biologically men but actively try to look and act like sane normal women? Actual trans women.

>> No.10287412

The next 170 posts will have nothing to do with the actual topic and will, once again, for the 9000th time, focus around trannies and their bait.

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>>10287412
This. Even saging and reporting barely makes any difference. I'm so fucking sick of this shit, it's barely even relevant to the fashion. Is lolita in 2019 really so boring that we have nothing else to gossip or circlejerk about?

>> No.10287422

Here's a confession to get us back on topic

It kinda fucks with my head a bit that I'm considered "normal" size in western fashion but a big old fatty XXL in jfashion. It legit contributes to me feeling like I'm developing an eating disorder and I feel like I gotta see my psych asap before I develop full on anorexia.

I know this board isn't friendly to fatty chans either so between my exes dating skinny girls and jfashion being for size 8s only I feel fucking stuck

>> No.10287426

>>10287422
Even size 8 is large for jfash

>> No.10287432

>>10287422
To be honest, i think unless you're a tiny petite mouse of a girl, everyone feels big in jfashion.
I'm a uk size 10 (mo idea what that is in us sizes) and get tolk Im skinny/lanky all the time, but because Im tall i just feel MASSIVE in lolita.
Like I've put on about an inch around my waist in the last year because i was working an offive job (thankfully no longer) and i dont think i would have noticed if it werent for trying to squeeze into a jsk i thought was gonna fit me

>> No.10287441

>>10287349
Sure stealing from Walmart doesn’t hurt the entire company’s bottom line, but it still hurts the employees in individual stores. The lost finances come out of their hourly compensation and everyone gets their hours cut. For some employees this can be the difference in having food on the table or making rent.

>> No.10287443

>>10287072
jfc I feel attacked and ashamed reading this. I'm going to get help one of these days. I've been doing a tiny tiny smidge better lately but it's so far from good. I've earned 140k in the last 2 years and I have $600 in saving and want to just buy CTP with it.

I'm too scared of missing out on fun times to use one of those budgeting services that control your money

>>10287254
practising making face in a mirror sounds adorable as heck anon. Use your discomfort and channel that into you spontaneous "silly face". just looking terrified while everyone is sticking their tongues out will work fine.

>> No.10287445

>>10287443
>I've earned 140k in the last 2 years and I have $600 in saving
Am I reading that right?
Please, budget. I make about a third of what you do and I save 8k every year.

>> No.10287446

>>10287441
No it doesn't you asshole. Big stores like walmart literally account for theft and damaged products in their annual budgets. It's called "shrinkage"and It comes out of the end of year profits. Wages and staff hours are determined by how much the store intends to be making, or believes it will need, to continue the business and is a completely separate budget decision. Nobody in big chains like that is getting underpaid because of theft except the people at the top.

They're getting underpaid because the american minimum wage is a shit show, get it right.

>> No.10287447

>>10287399
If I hadn't been on hiatus two years ago I would have bought all of those from you anon I am so sorry.

>> No.10287448

>>10287445
You sure are anon. You sure are. If it helps that isn't in USD? In USD it's about 95k

>> No.10287450

>>10287448
Oh, I was doing conversions to USD on my end, hah. Everyone's American on the internet...

>> No.10287451

>>10287441
That's not how wages work retard

>> No.10287456

>>10287448
95k a year is still a lot to have no savings anon wtf

>> No.10287461

>>10287456
They said two years, not one year.

>> No.10287463 [DELETED] 

>>10287355
A druggie is a druggie. You don't have to be an "addict" to be a druggie. Druggies are fucking disgusting and have no place in anything Japanese related as Japan hates them too.

>> No.10287464

>>10287395
I'm the anon who posted the second one and I lost interest in selling it after getting the responses I got. I came there for a price check, not thirsty "GIMME I'LL PAY A LOT!!" gulls. Besides, I've done that before and they never respond after I tell them my price, not even a "fuck off", even if they say they'll pay a lot.

>> No.10287465

>>10287422
I'm a size 8 and I don't fit a lot of jfash. It's more for flat chested size 2s

>> No.10287466

>>10287443
Savings are pointless honestly. You could die any day now. Have fun instead

>> No.10287468

>>10287422
I am a size 6 and I have been torn apart in the COF thread for being "fat" so I feel this

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>>10287466
>Savings are pointless honestly. You could die any day now. Have fun instead
you're gonna find why savings are important the hard way

>> No.10287470

>>10287445
Saving is stupid. You can’t take money with you when you die

>> No.10287471

>>10287466
>>10287470
Yikes

>> No.10287477 [DELETED] 

>>10287470
You can't buy a house or send your kids to college with air.

>> No.10287481 [DELETED] 

>>10287477
Aw, I'm so sorry you're single. Some of us have husbands who make good money and we don't have to worry about shit like that lol

>> No.10287482

>>10287477
Why the fuck would I ever have kids? And you only need to buy a house once, idiot.

>> No.10287483

>>10287481
If he doesn't have savings you're both going to die

>> No.10287484

>>10287481
do you work as well?

>> No.10287487

>>10287483
and that's a good thing

>> No.10287488

>>10287484
Yep. But all my money is for me. I don't pay for groceries, mortgage or whatever.

>> No.10287491

>>10287481
Anon, I'm married too. Right now we're both working so we can save more and work less later. Eventually I'll probably quit my job, but that time isn't come yet.

Why so salty, anyway?

>> No.10287496

>>10287488

That's going to work out really well for future marital disputes. Best of luck anon.

>> No.10287497

>>10287488
if you weren't a womanchildren you'd actually give a fuck about your house's finances and not throw all your money away on stupid shit, but to each their own I guess.

>> No.10287498

>>10287481
Enjoy being at your husband's mercy if you won't ever get off your ass and do something for yourself.

>> No.10287499 [DELETED] 

>>10287496
I get half his shit if there's any marital problem later lol. Not that we've even had any. This is how marriages worked for most of history, you know.

>>10287497
Aw, you're so jealous. Sorry about your money issues.

>> No.10287500 [DELETED] 

>>10287498
Except I have a good job myself that I could survive on if needed. I just don't need to. You gulls are embarrassingly jealous lmao.

>> No.10287501

>>10287499
>>10287500
Nobody would bother posting this on an anonymous imageboard if they didn't secretly feel insecure or like they had something to prove about their lifestyle.
Redpill women are notoriously defensive and deflect any criticism of their choices as jealousy.

>> No.10287504

>>10287500
I agree with you that savings are stupid but I’m actually embarrassed to be agreeing with you right now. Fucking yikes

>> No.10287505 [DELETED] 

>>10287499
hope he doesn't drop your womanchildren ass and you end up in poverty and no savings ;^)

>> No.10287525 [DELETED] 

>>10287466
Someone is never going to retire. I hope you keep good health in your older years, you’re gonna need it when you’re still working at 80+.

>> No.10287527 [DELETED] 

>>10287525
I don’t want to live to be 80+, that’s disgusting. I’m here for a good time not a long time.

>> No.10287528 [DELETED] 

>>10287527
you can always anhero at 50+, good retirement plan for retards like yourself

>> No.10287529

>>10287441
No they can’t take The value of stolen products out of wages, it’s illegal and called wage theft.

>> No.10287554

>>10287501
It's just bait anyway or underage. Savings aren't just important for crisis or retirement but also for long-term goals of various sorts.

>> No.10287567

>>10287554
I think more likely a personality disorder. Anon writes like people I know who have cluster B personalities.

>> No.10287571

>>10287248
I don't get all the hate for tattoos.

>> No.10287588 [DELETED] 

>>10286738
Ah yes, the good ol trap of failing to properly learn self discipline and lowering yourself to the status of a piece of meat for luxuries you won't even care about in 10 years. Just as Goldberg planned.

>> No.10287596 [DELETED] 

>>10287463
YEAH! YOU TELL EM, ANON!
*Drinks my glass of wine before bed and pops the cap off my bottle of Zoloft*

FUCK DRUGGIES AND FUCK NIGGERS!

>> No.10287597 [DELETED] 

>>10287496
Literally what alimony was made for. It actually WILL go well for marital disputes when the courts will tell him to fuck himself and pay for her retirement since she has no income of her own.

>> No.10287600

>>10287072
>I really hate how cutiefied shopping addictions are in our fashion and I wish treating it like that could be called out in a way that doesn't cause a shitstorm.
This. Whenever people try and talk about their experiences either someone else takes it personally and gets offended or it gets derailed by idiots screeching poorfag like their lives depend on it. Outside of cgl it's glorified too but no one really talks about it.

Honestly I only impulse shop when I'm at my most depressed or I have nothing else going on in my life so I obsess over secondhand sales and buy a ton of crap I don't even want. When I'm doing better I just keep the occasional lookout for DDs or things I think I will wear a ton. I'm learning to be more mindful of what I do buy and how it fits within my wardrobe so I don't buy shit I won't use anymore, but I still end up spending far more than I would like to on clothes and I'm starting to run out of space to put everything.

I think I'm getting better because I've recognised my problem and I do have savings, but when I'm struggling with other things in my life like school, my health or just general stress I just want to shop to feel better. It feels like an itch in my brain that I have to scratch.

>> No.10287601

>>10287597

Even for alimony, she'll need to pay for a halfway decent lawyer for that to happen lol.

>> No.10287606 [DELETED] 

>>10287600
What you descrived is literally a drug addiction, shopping is the drug for women for some reason. I remember calling it just that 10+ years ago... how right I was.

>> No.10287608 [DELETED] 

>>10287601
nah whamen win pretty much by default, she can get a lawyer that gets paid in % of what she ends up taking, evnthough, that's assuming she is married thoug, kek

>> No.10287613

>>10287481
>>10287488
>>10287499
Omega yikes

>> No.10287627 [DELETED] 

>>10287357
Whatever gender this person is that nose job and the work around their eyes are awful. Mid life crisis plastic surgery face, the brow is still a bit masculine but it's so artificial it's hard to tell

>> No.10287628

>>10287426
Found the US anon, that's a petite size in the UK

>> No.10287629

>>10286739
Hope your comm finds out.

>> No.10287637

>>10286872
This. Its easier to get into something like humiliating men for money instead

>> No.10287644 [DELETED] 

>>10287501
Because it is jealousy. Western women and their "muh independence" is disgusting. Thank god asian culture is still traditional.

>> No.10287645 [DELETED] 

>>10287554
>>10287567
>traditional women don't exist!!!
>all women are exactly like white western dykes or they're mentally ill

>> No.10287647

>>10287645
Get out of this thread already dumb scrote, you stick out like a sore thumb.

>> No.10287651

>>10287628
That would be a US size 4, which is also on the larger side of jfash (but not too big for it)

>> No.10287657

>>10287645
It's not the fact that she chooses to live that way, it's the way she expresses it to others.
FWIW I like the idea of a traditional labour division and it's what we are working towards.
I just don't act like a psycho about it.

>> No.10287667

I hate the current state of the online lolita community. I don't like Facebook, cgl and discord because it's just idle chatter and doesn't leave behind anything useful. I don't know how to find people with similar interests in the community except for following tags on Instagram. Even though the community has gotten bigger, it feels very lonely to be a lolita now.

>> No.10287669

>>10287422
I feel this. I'm pretty close to the "ideal" western figure (34"-20"-36") and yet there's so many brand pieces that I adore that I can't ever wear. I'm already underweight for my height! I'd need a breast reduction, and I guess surgery to shave off my hipbones like that Korean V-line surgery for your chin. And even if I fit, many aren't flattering because they're designed for someone more rectangle shaped.

I know super small girls reeee about brand sizes getting larger, but I'm loving it. Not everyone is a 5'0" smol princess.

>> No.10287670

>>10287669
I guess it's all about proportions? I'm 32/26/36 and average height but have a very short/small torso and older brand fits me really well with or without shirring. Granted I don't have anything by VM.

>> No.10287670,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>10287627
>>10287405
Haha just so you know, she's a cis woman. She does Nude body positivity classes, if you don't believe me I'm sure you can reverse search the image. She has no surgery, she doesn't believe in it. She even has kids she gave birth to.

Talking about her "botched surgery" and shit... You're so entrenched in this nonsense that you're just seeing what you want to see. The delusion and the confirmation bias is so strong. Look at how many cis girls in the CoF thread get "that's a man" and "tranny" comments... If you really cared about cis women you'd actually give a shit about the issues that still socially hold us back but instead you're seeing imaginary trans demons all around you. You sound crazy and paranoid. Get help...

>> No.10287671

>>10287670
I'm the same measurements as you and most of my closet is VM. Fits fine.

>> No.10287672

My favorite brand is Meta because they've always catered the most to international market. Way before I became lolita, their Go! Go! Lolita-chan was the most inspiring thing. I used to click through all the pictures at least once a week and dream about all the lolitas around the world. They were the first to offer international shopping, and good english language support, even while other brands were still not accepting foreign buyers. It made me feel very welcomed into the fashion, and I probably would not be lolita without Meta.

But I love them most because I find their clothes so tacky and ugly that they became cute! Sorry, Kato-san, your taste is questionable!

>> No.10287675

>>10287669
I'm 30DD-25-36 at 5'6" and have a closet that currently has over 80 main pieces in it. I wear classic and gothic. I've only ONCE encountered a lolita dress that was too small to wear comfortably, and it was a very old VM gobelin piece. Lolita is almost free size on the hips, and your measurements are close to mine. How are your hips not fitting? And those measurements... Unless that's inside a corset or something, they seem unlikely. Are you sure you've measured yourself correctly?

>> No.10287678

>>10287672
Are you me? Meta is and always will be my happy comfy nostalgic brand, I remember when they began to offer international shipping and what a game-changer that was. I love you, anon

>> No.10287679

>>10287670
Yeah, it all comes down to proportions. I'm 5'8" with an average torso, so a lot of stuff hits my ribs rather than my waist. And my band size is only 22 so most of my chest size is in my breasts. That throws things off more, because my chest lifts the waist even higher. Standard waisted OPs generally turn into empire waists on me, so I wind up stuck with JSKs, and often having to modify straps on those.

I tend to like punk pieces, and those run a lot smaller than sweet or even classic. That definitely doesn't help. Putamayo is especially bad.

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>>10287675
Her measurements aren't as crazy as they sound, look at pic related.

>>10287679
>>10287669
Anon is pic related accurate to your body type?

>> No.10287689

>>10286919
Yall are nasty :/
>>10287600
I only own 10 sets of cute clothes from goodwill and ross, but when I hit maximum stress I buy a laptop from ebay for about $40 $250, which tends to happen every few months. It's a bit nonsensical that I have this big stack of laptops I don't use.
A lot of them are obsolete but rare, the rest are mostly various older thinkpads. Some are where I bought three broken dells and assembled a whole working one.
I spend too much on MX-4 thermal paste too.
For not selling them, not giving them away very often, and spending just a little too much, I spend way too much time on ebay making bids and obsessing over them. I'm starting to feel selfish like I'm hogging the good laptops. Expecially the T60. Why do I have three?
Also my main confession is I don't wear real lolita. I pretty much wear basic long cute skirts and plain colored shirts every day, but I'm really into making lolita art and this board gives me a lot of inspiration.

>> No.10287695

>>10286955
what if they make fun of the clothing though?
I refuse to take my stuff to a dry cleaner cause I'm too afraid they'll laugh at it or won't take proper care of it cause they see it as a costume.

>> No.10287697

>>10287349
stealing is wrong and stealing from anyone is still wrong.
the way you justify this shit.. just wow.

>> No.10287716

>>10287358
>The unpopular opinion is liking tattoos in lolita
this is a confession thread not an unpopular opinion thread

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>>10287695
nayrt, but if you're so unbelievably sensitive that just the thought that people might be laughing at your unworn clothing behind your back keeps you from proper maintenance and hygiene then this might not be the hobby for you.

>> No.10287723

>>10287669
that waist size doesn't sound healthy/normal, unless you're a very short asian maybe

>> No.10287730

>>10287722
why? I wash my clothes at home instead.

>> No.10287736

>>10287684
Yeah, that's pretty similar. I have a very small ribcage, though, so my torso is more straight up from the waist and then tack some tits on the front.

>>10287723
Not normal, but I'm healthy. My mother and grandmother are built almost exactly the same as me. We just have very thin torsos and carry our weight elsewhere.

>> No.10287892

>>10287697
You want some tea with that virtue signal?
My point is that OP doesn’t have an excuse to steal from a friend and stealing from a giant super store isn’t going to do shit.

>> No.10287902

>>10287248
I think it depends on the tattoo and style, a knife tattoo with an OTT sweet coord or a cutesy butterfly with a gothic coord look weird and I wish they'd cover them in those cases but I like it when people's tattoos match their styles.

>> No.10287903

>>10286718
I also have a shopping addiction and I'm a hoarder, and lolita plays into both of these issues. I've managed to cut a deal with myself this year - I only buy new main pieces if I've already worn my other main pieces at least once. Instead I've found myself buying tons and tons of acessoires and wigs and especially blouses. I just can't win.
I also have boxes and boxes of crafting items because I get really into the idea of making things (jewelry, rosettes, wrist cuffs, realistic animal ears,...) for a few days and buy all the "ingredients" and then I realize that I'm not actually good at any of it so I never use them.
I'm trying my best to cut down on clutter but it's so hard. I've thrown out four big garbage bags of old normie clothes already but I still have literal tons of shit to go through and toss.

>> No.10287916

A tiny part of me is hoping the local comm fractures and I can start a new group with better mods. The one that actually does work is quitting, leaving the one that does nothing, and the one that sucks. I suspect they're looking for a new mod to do everything, and not looking at how they could have made it better for her.

>> No.10287932

I have BPD (and possible asperger) and everything I do reflects that, nothing is cohesive. My wardrobe is a borderline mix of sweet, classic and gothic. I buy what I like but I´m like a chameleon and do never look the same in lolita or normal fashion. I really try to have a strict and cohesive style but I fail so bad.
I have a lot of hobbies too, propably too many and I´m not good at any of them but I can´t stick to one thing for long because I get bored easily. I get jealous of all the people who can dress in one recognisable way or have one thing they are really good at.
I just can´t accept that I´m everything and nothing.

>> No.10287954

>>10287932
I’ve never met anyone who likes to broadcast their mental health problems as much as people who claim to have aspergers.

>> No.10288045

>>10286738
Maybe give art modeling a go instead. It's usually ok money and if you're working for a school you won't be taken advantage of. You're still naked, but at least it's classy naked. Won't be as much money as sw though.

>> No.10288056

>>10287903
Please donate your stuff

>> No.10288101

>>10287903
That's easy, one in and one out. If you want to buy something you have to get rid of something. And please tell me you aren't literally throwing away perfectly good clothing.

>> No.10288177

>>10287954
Confirmation bias, you don't notice when people don't do it. It's also a relatively common disorder.

>> No.10288273

>>10287669
>TFW 5'1 and have a smaller waist but a fuckhuge ribcage that makes the bust even bigger than it should be
>TFW stocky legs from playing sports as a child

even us shorties get the short (lmao) end of the stick ;_;

>> No.10288276

>>10287669
I don’t care what AP does with shirring, but if they start making their OPs huge I’m going to fucking riot

>> No.10288309

>>10287954
clearly you haven't met enough depressed people

ps i have depression

>> No.10288530

>>10287954
I pointed it out in hopes to clearify that my problems might come from my mental health issues.
I´m really not proud to have any of them so I usually don´t talk about it with others, my friends think I have depression but I never told them anything. The least I do is to write it in my bio or something.

And yes, at the moment I only can guess I have aspergers because my therapists pointed it out but it is too difficult to get a diagnosis as an adult in my country.
Sorry I offended you.

>> No.10289093

I hate any lolita headwear. It instantly makes coord looks like Halloween costume.

That's why i don't wear any.

>> No.10289362

>>10289093
>any lolita headwear
>any
>wearing a beret makes outfit into Halloween costume!

wat

>> No.10289709

>>10289093
found the larper

>> No.10290235

Bump

>> No.10292606

I use some of my dresses as nightwear

>> No.10293101

>>10292606
Me too

>> No.10294225

>>10286767
Found the newfag. In 2010, any remotely popular AP print sold for hundreds above retail. Sometimes multiple times retail value. There were many prints that would go for over $700 in almost any colorway.

>> No.10294261

>>10292606
That doesn't sound comfy, why not just get some nightgowns from Eileen West or Lanz of Salzburg?

>> No.10294318

>>10292606
I feel like you’re trying to be edgy but wearing clothes that aren’t made for sleeping in to sleep is usually just uncomfortable

>> No.10296230

>>10294318
this was a convo several years ago but some anon sleeps in sack dresses and a few people lost their shit about how that’s misuse of brand. i have no thoughts on it since i don’t care what people do with their property, but there’s the context

>> No.10296270

>>10296230
I don't really care either, it just seems like a really odd choice to want to sleep in, when there are perfectly cute lolita-adjacent nightgowns out there.