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It seems that the "Don't cry Baby~ Larme-kei worldwide" FB is dead. I don't see Larme pop up on here anymore. What does everyone think?

Before it's mentioned, I understand Larme is a magazine and not a sub group. The general term is probably "sweet girly style" from the annoying NHK video.

I would love to see a comeback. Feel free to post inspo.

>> No.10258241

It's dead because brands are no longer pushing out what western trendhoppers think is Larme aka that black&dusty pink lingerie style stuff

>> No.10258247

>>10258241
I really disliked the lingerie-inspired stuff. I think that's a fair observation.

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cgl and the threads helped kill larme. there was a ridiculous amount of policing what "counted" as larme or not, taking the style way too seriously, hosting "larme meetups", trying to make a lifestyle aspect. basically just copying the lolita fashion blueprint and a tiny bit of the gyaru fashion structure and trying to make larme fit into that.

there also was a lot of superiority in early larme threads. a lot of "we're so much better than the stupid lolitas, this is how grown women dress, we aren't babies playing dressup or ddlg weirdos".

larme had a big boom in the west because for a short amount of time western brands like h&m and forever 21 made pieces that could easily fit into larme because trends overlapped for once. dusty pink, lace and feminine elements, overlay skirts were everywhere for two seconds.

then larme-esque pieces got harder to find at forever 21 and the magazine drifted away from the cookie cutter black/pink trend that cgl decided was law. thats when the threads died.

larme is just a distant relative of gyaru that was birthed from the amo style/soft sister 2012 trend. it was never meant to be a concrete, never changing style.

>> No.10258277

>>10258259
It's really discouraging that so many rules were established. I like that there is a general theme, but it wasn't as strict as lolita.
I never witnessed the fighting over being "more adult". Sounds dumb since most of the sub styles stuffer from besing associated with ddlg.

>> No.10258323

>>10258238
Everyone in Japan who didn't go normie moved on to Neo Romantic (Goth) which reflects a lot in the style changes of Ank Rouge, Rose Marie Seoir, DearMyLove, etc.

>> No.10258460

The discord is dead as well

>> No.10258543

>>10258238
I still dress "larme-inspired" and keep up with the general trends and I acknowledge that not only has the style shifted, the way I coord wouldn't even count a ~larme~ in the early threads. Good thing I ignored what westerners think is or isn't larme style and stuck with the actual magazines/brand instagrams instead. I also wouldn't necessarily call it a whole standalone fashion, more like a certain way of styling. The styling is actually the main reason why so many westerners failed at larme, they focused too much on the clothes and not on the ~feeling~ of the styling.

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It was never a style to begin with.
LARME as a magazine started out very clearly inspired by Gyaru and Otome. The entire idea was to let more adult girls stay "kawaii" while still looking their age.
The constant need of the western "community" to stick to the cookie-cutter patterns and colors is what made it fail so hard as a "style". They wanted it to be "larme-kei" when it was never "kei" to begin with.
You can't take the general idea of dressing cute yet trendy and make it a style, it's just what it is. being cute and trendy.

>> No.10258572

>>10258550
What is cute and trendy in Japan nowadays?

>> No.10258603

>>10258572
Vintage and Casual sporty were going strong last time I checked.

>> No.10258621

>>10258572
Who the fuck cares weeb

>> No.10258634

>>10258621
Chill down mate, you alright?

>> No.10258641 [DELETED] 

>>10258621
Why are you even in this thread...?

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>>10258572
Gothic styling with vintage influence seems to be in now, going by Swankiss and Dear My Love F/W 2019

>> No.10258686

>>10258259
I think they made rules, blog posts and threads because they want content to read but nobody translates the magazine. Same with other weeb styles. They want to discuss endlessly about what the style is because they can't read the articles to get inspiration.

>> No.10258690

>>10258686
than what's the difference from other -kei styles that are still around?

>> No.10258693

i really liked calling it larme, it made it really easy to find things. personally i still wear the 'sweet and girly' style, mostly white x pink x black..

>> No.10258694 [DELETED] 

>>10258690
That “larme” was never a kei despite westerners trying to make it a thing for snowflake points

>> No.10258698

>>10258690
A large majority of those are western invented or just a label given to a specific shop. Or they’re conplrtelg different to what wa in japan. See how spank! style evolved into western fairy lei

>> No.10258701

this never had enough traction to get popular enough to even become a thing.
They have like 5 girls modeling regularly for the magazine, of which none wear anything remotely similar in personal life.
It's not like Lolita where it was an actual movement with a mass of people making it into an actual thing

>> No.10258723

>>10258690
>Same with other weeb styles

>> No.10258760

>>10258698
>See how spank! style evolved into western fairy lei
Fairy kei always existed in japan too tho, nothing western about it. For example, the two girls at the beginning of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtDp2FumekI also call their style fairy kei.

>> No.10259264

I dont think anybody understands that larme was literally just a magazine for general fashion popular amongst young Japanese girls. It's not a specific style. Why are westerners so dumb

>> No.10259276

>>10259264
I’ve always understood it and laughed at westerners trying to make “larme kei” a thing. It was literally just a trendy fashion magazine. It’s like trying to make “kera kei” a thing.

>> No.10259278

seems like it since all blogs about it are long dead too lol

>> No.10259281

>>10259276
You mean like how aomoji kei is a thing?

>> No.10259285

>>10259281
Keep trying to make the exception the rule dumbass. Larme kei was totally a thing right? That’s why it didn’t die when trends changed right?

>> No.10259294

>>10259285
You know that Kei is just a "type" suffix? If a girl is wearing an outfit from the magazine, she obviously will say Larme Kei in japanese because it just means "This outfit is Larme-type".

>> No.10259298

>>10259294
That’s not what retards in the west thing and not the context it’s being used in with this thread. Please try to keep up with a conversation instead of sperging out.

>> No.10259304

>>10259281
Aomoji Kei referred to magazines full of cute/casual styles. The term coined because the casual magazines always had blue text (hence AoMoji) and was the opposite of Akamoji Kei, magazines who promoted mature and feminine styles and usually had titles with red text.

>>10259294
ラルム系 would be used as an outfit descriptor (lit Larme style outfit) and would technically be correct but when actually referring to the fashion you can just say Larme. It’s like how you could say “It’s a ロリィタ系 brand” but you wouldn’t say “I wear ロリィタ系”

>> No.10259314

>>10259294
>>10259304
If people made threads that request "Larme style outfits" you know anons would also get butthurt about it

>> No.10259319

>>10259314
We’ve literally had that kind of thread before and nobody gave a shit

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i always liked the pre-larme amo style that was really popular in 2011-2012. that was cuter and had more character than the larme boom of 2015-2016

this style was so huge, i remember ebay seling wigs that looked like amos hair. there were wigs that were that light blonde color that went to brunette, and the dusty lavender ombre wigs.

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>>10259583
there was a time when everyone who was hot shit in the jfashion scene all had taobao replicas of

-the cherub angel tights
-the sheer babydoll dress
-large katie pin badges
-that hoodie dress from e hyphen
-an amo wig
-that macaron shirt

>> No.10259635

>>10259276
It's even worse than trying to make "kera kei" a thing, because Kera at least focuses on fashions that aren't mainstream. Larme is basically the Japanese equivalent of "Teen Vogue kei" or "suburban mall kei".

It's great as a fashion magazine, but it's not a fashion.

>> No.10259705

>>10259587
I remember that era. Cult Party Kei lite.
I still want the cherub tights to come back.

>> No.10259715

>>10259587
>>10259705
OPs file name reminded me of the fights there used to be about how AMO style was called Soft Sister, when Soft Sister was just the Chinese name for trendy pastel Harajuku stuff (which happened to include the AMO knockoffs at the time). It was a wild time.
AMO had such a cute style but there hasn’t really been anybody to replace her as a pastel icon since KERA/Zipper shut down. Yulayula was the pastel icon for a while but she’s more into white x black coordinates these days.

>> No.10259781

>>10259705
I would wear all that stuff now to be honest. I wish it wasn’t so hard to find these days.

>> No.10259858

I'm nearly 23 and now getting into this kind of fashion, is that bad?

>> No.10259859

>>10259858
Yes. Not because of your age though, because it’s a dead style

>> No.10259860

>>10259858
Wear what makes you happy anon.
Mai Shiraishi that models for the mag is 27, Risa Nakamura is 30

>> No.10259866

>>10259860
Have you seen Risa in person lately though? Her age is really showing without photoshop

>> No.10259869

>>10259587
honestly i miss those times. i still have those eyeball bows but they're the kreepsville ones.

>> No.10259871

>>10259866
working as a model is hard work and long hours, it obvs takes a toll on the body

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>>10259583
the absolute state of the subliminal secs message

>> No.10259875

>>10259871
Yeah, it’s just disappointing to see that haggardness in person. AP should find someone fresh to work with

>> No.10259882

>>10259866
Risa only looks “bad” because her Instagram photos are heavily edited, which invites the comparison. If she didn’t edit herself beyond human recognition, she’d be fine. She IS fine.

Also 23 isn’t old. That’s a prefectly fine age for that trend.

>> No.10259883

>>10259882
I didn’t say 23 was old dumbass. Not a single person said it was. And you clearly haven’t seen her in person lately, she looks rough as shit compared to her modeling photos, which aren’t kooters levels of edited like those on her instagram. I saw her at a fashion show and her skin is very saggy for her age. Misako is older and showing some aging signs, but she looks worlds better than Risa. And I don’t even like Misako.

>> No.10259888

>>10259859
Only the pink x black Old-Swankiss stereotypical styles are dead. The magazine is still around, as somebody up thread mentioned, people in the west just don’t realise that the current magazine isn’t their outdated image of Larme.

To anybody that does like the old Larme looks - Swankiss is dirt cheap on Mercari.

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>>10259883
She looks fine though

>> No.10259893

>>10259583
I believe you but I cant find that many pictures of the style

>> No.10259898

>>10259892
You and I have incredibly different definitions of what looks fine

>> No.10259901

>>10259898
Sorry Risa isn't an immortal ageless being without a hint of wrinkles

>> No.10259908

>>10259892
Those low res caps do not come close to showing how she looks in person.

>>10259901
Why are you so upset about people criticizing her?

>> No.10259918

>>10259901
When your job literally revolves around the way you look you are expected to keep those looks. Once you no longer can, you lose the job. Risa is getting to the age where she needs to step up her game in taking care of herself if she wants her career to continue the way it has. But based on previous things she’s said on social media she really doesn’t put in the effort she should. She carelessly gained weight before too and then sperged out about it on Twitter

>> No.10259919

>>10259908
Do you have any high res photos of how oh so terrible she looks in person? And I mean consistent photos, not one bad photo from a weird angle. Prove your claims please

>> No.10259920

>>10259919
How can I prove how she looks in person? I’m not a photog so obviously I don’t have ultra high res photos to prove how she looks. Unedited, ultra high res photos probably aren’t allowed to exist per her modeling contract as well. Japan puts a lot of importance on the image of a person.

>>10259918
She was pretty chubby by Japanese standards back in her days as a shop girl so maintaining her weight is probably difficult

>> No.10259921

>>10259919
Why are you acting personally offended like it’s impossible for a 30 year old to look her age? Can you stop WKing a model who doesn’t know or care that you exist?

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>>10259918
>she carelessly gained weight

you must be an anachan because risa is thinner now than she’s ever been in her career. she’s thinner than many jfashion models and she was noticeably at a higher weight during her years modeling for Katie when she had blonde hair. She was obviously getting work then so it’s not like she was tossed aside the moment she gained weight.

I remember she was upset on twitter in 2016 for gaining a whopping....600 grams. she was 40kg (88lbs) at 160 cm (5’3).

>> No.10259923

>>10259922
She gained weight without intention to, IE carelessly gaining weight. She’s thin now but don’t act like she always has been or that she’s always been good about maintaining it

>> No.10259924

>>10259921
Except we weren’t arguing that she looks younger than her age. Anons were implying she looks WORSE than her age, which I think is bullshit. I know we all have BDD here and a fear of aging but come on.

>>10259921
I don’t even care about Risa and I hate her work for Angelic Pretty. I just think anons were being ridiculous and exaggerating how “bad” she looks.

>> No.10259925

>>10259924
She does look bad compared to a few years back. And yes, she does look worse than her age. Her eye bags alone are fucking atrocious and on part with my 44 year old aunt in >>10259892

>> No.10259928

>>10258760
go back with some reading comprehension, and actually read what the fuck you're replying to

>> No.10259929

>>10259924
>REE stop having opinions that aren’t mine!!!!

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>>10259923
>She gained weight without intention to, IE carelessly gaining weight.

Literally everyone’s weight fluctuates throughout the day based on their last meal, amount of water, for women their time of the month factors in and your last bowel movement. Daily weight fluctuations are not carelessly gaining weight.

Anyway this is stupid derailing. Ironic, because old Larme threads would be derailed over speculation on if Risa was ana or not.

>>10259893
I have several on my laptop at home, I’ll see what I can dig up

>> No.10259935

>>10259932
She probably is since she was fat before

>> No.10259938

>>10259883
nayrt but models don't get to choose how heavily their photos are edited, and I've n e v e r worked a shoot where the photos were not edited, that's just the business. Now instagram is also part of that business for models.

>> No.10259939

>>10259938
How does that change that she still looks worse than her non insta photos?

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>>10259935
she was never fat, stop trolling

anyway back to talking larme trends

>> No.10259943

>>10259941
>she was never fat

As stated before, she certainly was by Japanese standards. And doubly certainly by Japanese model standards. Sorry you can’t wrap your head around other people having different standards but that doesn’t change the facts of the situation.

>> No.10259944

>>10259939
that's how humans work stupid. they look better when you edit them. worse when compared to non-edited photos.

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>> No.10259946

>>10259944
So you agree with the statement she would look worse in person? Great! Now you can stop acting like an autist

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>>10259943
Again do you have any proof of this? Comments from Japanese larme fans talking about her weight? Knowledge of what her weight was at that time? Because her legs just look a tiny bit thicker there and Japanese girls have thick/full calves anyway so it’s not like she was a freak of nature. Plus your more alt-jfashion models seem to not have the strict standards like other mainstream Japanese models have.

Amo was NEVER stick thin like Risa is now and her career was huge.

>> No.10259948

>>10259892
has she had work done? she looks so plastic compared to other models

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>> No.10259954

>>10259947
>do you have any proof of this

In Japan you need to be your height -120 to be considered thin enough to model, and you can tell from the pics back then she wasn’t.

>>10259948
Probably fillers. Her face has always been fat but it’s noticably plumper than it used to be as of late compared to previous photos of her at a similar weight

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>> No.10259956

imagine being this upset over some randos opinion that an aging model is aging

>> No.10259958

>>10259860
I don't have youthful Asian genes though lmao I already have lines under my eyes and on my forehead

>> No.10259959

>>10259958
At 23? Fucking Jesus. Even by white girl standards that’s bad

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>>10259956
imagine being this upset that someone has a different opinion on the weight of a appearance of a model than you do

that sentiment goes both ways. and this all started just because someone neutrally recommended Risa as an example of an older larme model and then someone got assmad that someone else didn’t think she looks like the crypt keeper.

>> No.10259961

>>10259960
You’re the one sperging out dumping photos trying to prove how totes perfect n skinny uwu she was and crying about trolling

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>> No.10259965

>>10259960
>it all started when someone had a different opinion and I couldn’t contain my rage*

People are allowed to think a 30 year old looks old. Maybe you need to take a break from posting to calm down.

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>> No.10260071

>>10259925
Your 44 year old aunt must be extremely attractive.
You guys can be so autistic, I swear. With standards like these, you must want to neck yourselves whenever you look in the mirror in the morning.

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>>10259973
I always liked the ridiculously large pin badges

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>>10260071
its funny since eyebags are a thing in east asian beauty standards and many girls use makeup to enhance them. and risa still doesn't have any, it's just an effect to make her eyes bigger using makeup

>> No.10260077

>>10260076
Theyre talking about the severe fine lines she has dumbass, which is kawaii approximately nowhere

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>> No.10260079

>>10260077
can you please point out these fine lines to me, because i want to see them. i also didn't know that eyebags and eye wrinkles were the same thing, thats news to me.

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just gonna post scans now

>> No.10260081

>>10260077
There’s no talking sense into people with yellow fever anon. All they see is an eternally youthful uwu kawaii doll

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>> No.10260083

>>10260079
See several photos here >10259892 and learn to keep up

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>>10260082
>>10260081
its not yellow fever, you guys are weirdos about how all women look of any race and you're all poisoned by beautycam you forgot how real women age. or you're so desperate to tear her down you see flaws that aren't there. you sound like incels complaining about the wall.

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>>10260088
I think Swankiss has really gone downhill recently, none of their recent designs are all that cute and their quality has gotten atrocious. I wish their prices were cut to reflect the lack of quality, but nope.

>> No.10260091

>>10260085
You’re delusional and now just resorting to buzzwords because you’re wrong but can’t stop yourself from responding.

Wow someone has an opinion that a 30 year old woman looks 30??? Just like those big bad incels!!!!! She CANT POSSIBLY have fine lines!!!!

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>>10260090
Larme had some good spooky spreads in it

>> No.10260095

>>10260085
It’s either it’s natural to age and she looks aged, or she looks good for her age and anons are wrong. Pick a side for fucks sake. You dumping photos does not remove the shitposting aspect to your posts.

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>>10260077
>>10260079
>muh nasolabial folds
You must've been part of the original "Obsessed with Kotakoti" crew, too. No one else can be this insane. Have you never seen female human skin? Your response to this is probably going to be some shit like "It's a model's JOB to look inhuman at all times! If she can't do it, she doesn't deserve her career".
What about not making up shit to pick at a skinny model for is yellow fever to you? I get that she probably made you insecure/jelly in her heyday like 4 years ago, but that's no reason to go crazy now.

>> No.10260098

>>10260091
Isn't she 23? Why do you keep repeating that she's 30?

>> No.10260099

>>10260091
Yeah, she's 30 and she looks fine. No one is saying shes a youthful goddess, but anon like >>10259883 talking about how "rough" and "saggy" she looks, our anons like >>10259925 saying her eyebags are "atrocious" and saying she looks worse than a 44 year old are exaggerating heavily.

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>>10260098
Risa is 30. She is boring in 1989. The anon up here >>10259858 is 23.

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>> No.10260106

>>10260097
I don’t know why you’re so upset by others having higher standards but I hope you get help

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>> No.10260109

>>10260106
I'm not upset, I just think you're autistic, and this is 4chan, so I can point it out.
Once again, you must feel downright suicidal whenever you look at yourself, because I know for a fact you're not on a competing level. I hope you come to grips with whatever's going on in your head.

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>>10260092
I actually wish the edgy/spooky looks had stuck around faster. The pastel stuff is cute, but I really liked this girly spin on goth.

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>>10260110
>faster
*longer ffs

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>>10260110
All brands have gotten pretty gothy for their F/W 2019 lines. Dear My Love is straight up just black, grey and ivory with the occasional shade of pink. Hopefully we have another girly-goth October in our future.

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>>10260110

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>>10260116

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>>10260117

>> No.10260122

>>10260109
>You must feel downright suicidal whenever you look at yourself

That’s some heavy projection anon.

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They really found a way to make these (mostly basic) Halloween costumes look almost like something you'd wear outside of a costume context, for fashion purposes. I kind of respect that.

>> No.10260125

>>10260124
Not really, the example you used looks costumey as fuck both in design and quality wise compared to other pieces in the fashion

>> No.10260126

>>10260122
Nope, I'm not the one trying to convince everyone >>10259892
is totally "atrocious" and what someone's 44 year old aunt looks like.

>> No.10260127

>>10260126
Yeah that’s why you’re writing really specific scenarios about people wanting to die when looking in the mirror lmao. Might as well just kys now and save everyone the trouble

>> No.10260130

>>10260127
What about that scenario is "really specific"?
It seems like I struck a nerve. Chill out, and maybe get some therapy.
>REEEEE KYS
Kek. You sound legitimately unhinged, even moreso than before.

>> No.10260133

>>10260130
>more projecting

How is wanting to die when looking in a mirror not specific? Only ugly cows like you would think of that

>> No.10260135

>>10260133
I don't think you know what "projecting" means, anon.
I'm sorry I hurt your feelings, but screeching at me and other online strangers after sperging out about models who don't know you exist won't help you recover.

>> No.10260136

>>10260135
Keep throwing out them buzzwords anon. You sure look totally notbothered!

>> No.10260137

>>10260136
>buzzwords
Where?

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>>10260119

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>>10260138

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I haven't really even been keeping up with her, but Risa still looks pretty good. Seems like she's still booking jobs, after all. I'm not seeing the weight she carelessly gained, either, going by the legs.
Hoes will remain pressed, I guess.

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>> No.10260145

>>10260141
You should read the thread fully before stringing together a bunch of points made in posts. Nobody said she still has the weight she gained.

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>>10260145
Read a full thread of BDD-tier bitching about non-existent flaws? Nah. Where are the photos of the weight she supposedly gained in the past, anyway?
She definitely doesn't look 40+, either. This event snap from Gucci is the closest to a high-quality candid I've found, and I'm just not seeing it. A shitton of western celebrities were there, too, so we can be assured Japanese PS trickery isn't afoot here.

>> No.10260151

>>10260150
Do some legwork yourself instead of whining like a little cunt to be spoonfed

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>>10260125
this one is cute

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>>10260152

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>>10260154

>> No.10260156

>>10260151
So, you were bullshitting this whole time? Good to know.
No one's asking to be spoonfed, but maybe don't make up shit and then get mad when multiple people ask for proof.
The girl is skinny, cope.

>> No.10260157

>>10260156
Read the fucking thread if you want answers. Oh wait! You’re too lazy

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>>10260156
Dropped my image.

>> No.10260160

>>10260156
People aren’t saying she’s not skinny now, the argument is that previously she was chubby. Which you would know if you read the thread.

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>>10260157
>>10260160
I am, and there's no fat or chubby Risa anywhere, lmao. In fact, you refused to post images to back up your claims, because you knew you were wrong.
You even claimed candids were forbidden for Japanese models so you wouldn't have to find actual photos of her looking like a chunky grandma.

>> No.10260165

>>10260163
You are jumbling up different points again. Are you drunk? It’s concerning how you aren’t able to keep points and topics separate from each other.

>> No.10260166

>>10260150
She looks fine. Imo her hands show her age more than her face, but definitely doesn’t look older than her age.

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>>10260165
It just sounds like you have no reading comprehension. I'll try to keep things simple: Do you have any evidence to back up your insistence that she was chubby? So far, none has been posted ITT.
In fact, the opposite has been shown. You might be suffering from intense jealousy.

>> No.10260169

>>10260167
The only one with no reading comprehension is you. If you’d actually fucking read the thread like you’ve been told a million times you wouldn’t keep asking these retarded questions

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>>10260169
I see, the answer is no. No photos, you expect us to just believe you on good faith.
Jealousy is a disease, get well soon anon.

>> No.10260173

>>10260169
>can’t even link to a post in the thread
Did you forget to post your image?

>> No.10260174

>>10260173
>>10260172
Literally just read the thread instead of crying about how people don’t think your waifu is ttly dabest

>> No.10260176

>>10260174
I've literally been in the thread from the start. There are no past photos of Risa being chubby. You must be delusional to keep LARPing like this.

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>>10260174
Just because most people are not mentally ill enough to create imaginary situations of others being fat doesn't make them waifufags.
Here's some Amo.

>> No.10260178

>>10260177
Idk someone sure is WKing her like a waifufag

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>>10260178
Pointing out she's thin and has been for a long time isn't exactly "WKing", but alright

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Why the hell are seagulls so prone to taking the bait? Just don’t reply to obvious trolls and scrotes.

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>>10260237
Here’s stuff that’s actually featured in current Larme volumes since most of the stuff ITT is from 2015-2017.

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>>10260241
Igari makeup is long gone. The in thing these days is Usagi Makeup, where you make your eyes look red and puffy because apparently that’s what an anxious bunny would look like.
Still cute though.

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>>10260243
Bunny Makeup

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>>10260244

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>>10260245

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>>10260246
For more up to date Larme, check out their Instagram @larmemagazine and the official website which posts tons of photos from the magazine.

>> No.10260310

>>10259946
I do agree that you're an autist, but thanks for stating the obvious, great contribution

>> No.10260311

just let that anon boil in itself kek
they obv jelous of a 30-year-old who doesn't care they exist and is a million times more successful than they will ever be

>> No.10260356

>>10259965
You sound 16.

>> No.10260381

>>10260097
is this a legit happa? one of the most beautiful happas I've seen if she is

>> No.10260383

>>10259967
>>10259969
I see they're heavy on manlet stomping over there.

>> No.10260408

>>10260244
Into this. Are there any tutorials on it past red around the eyes?

>> No.10260416

>>10260381
I’m pretty sure Amo is full Japanese

>> No.10260514

>>10260244
Lol that was all the rage back in CPK days

>> No.10260552

>>10259941
>trends
>winter 2014
Gtfo

>> No.10260554

>>10259970
A lot of what you post is too OTT for Larme

>> No.10260556 [DELETED] 

>>10260091
>>10260109
I hope you don't think you have moral high ground, you're using a mental health disorder as a slur. Bet you're against white people using nigger but you somehow think it's kakkoii to call people autist.

>> No.10260559

>>10260085
>>10260109
I hope you don't think you have moral high ground. You're using a mental health disorder as a slur. I bet you're against white people using nigger and men calling their girlfriends whores, but you somehow think it's kakkoii to call people autist and you're naive enough to think it doesn't hurt anyone irl because "4chan".

>> No.10260560

>>10259587
I had that exact wig, I miss it.

>> No.10260561

>>10260246
What does she have on her head?

>> No.10260588

>>10260552
we were discussing old trends since no one was posting current scans

>>10260554
larme isn’t a set style, it’s a magazine that has certain aesthetics. the hair splitting about what’s “OTT” in larme is what killed the threads. I remember lots of arguing over how Swankiss can NEVER EVER be larme despite being featured often in the magazine

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Even if it's dead in the west I still like it and wear it sometimes. If it makes a comeback I'd love for the feeling of Amo's old style to be recaptured. It didn't feel formulaic but still girly with a hint of edge

>> No.10260791

>>10260559
Take your disordered ramblings elsewhere, dysmorphia-chan.

>> No.10260811

>>10258550
Holy shit, is that Juria?

>> No.10260814

>>10259941
i miss old e hyphen, most of it looks like ugly normie shit now

>> No.10260851

>>10260811
It's Risa. Juria's jaw is much weaker, a thing she often hid in photos

>> No.10260920

>>10260851
She got surgery on it but last time I saw her posts she still hid it a lot.

>> No.10264933

How come not a single model posted to this thread is actually smiling?

>> No.10264940

>>10264933
Imagine being this new

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I know the thread's been derailed far from its original topic, but

I kinda just feel like the Jfash conversation is dead altogether in the anglosphere atm. There hasn't really been much to discuss since all the gyaru substyles filtered down to normie-tier, and now Larme isn't the novelty it was several years ago. I'm sure people are still enthusiastic about "alternative" Jfash (i.e. neither mainstream nor as alt as fairy kei, for instance) because the fukubukuro threads are still super popular, but it would be interesting to hear the perspective of a Japanese 20something on whether brands like Rosemarie Seoir are still ~relevant. Most of the current Larme models seem to dress like office ladies in their own time, with the exception of Chisato because she is always on holiday.

I follow a lot of Himekaji instas but by and large, Jfash insta is dominated by that rainby kaweewee bastardisation of decora popularised by Pixielocks, along with taobao resellers and Dollskill shills. Maybe the discussion is happening elsewhere and I'm just old and out of touch. Discord a shit, I only really use insta/fbook/imageboards, and I assumed Tumblr died a death long ago. I got into Jfash through purpose-built forums and LJ communities, and I've found it difficult to adapt to the current model where you participate in the community by way of accumulating internet kudos and perfecting your personal brand. Where my fellow over 30s at? Don't pretend you have better things to do than shitposting in the current year.

Anyway here's vintage Saaya

>> No.10266774

>>10260243
>>10260244
>>10260408
>>10260514
That's just byojaku makeup with a new name.

>> No.10267288

I think it's retarded to stop wearing something bc it's no longer trendy. Wear whatever you enjoy goddamnit.
Who cares if tracksuits on monday, larme by tuesday, gothic by saturday, emo 2007 girl by sunday.

Find your individual taste even if it is liking lots of styles on yourself and fuck rules.

>> No.10267301

>>10260085
Ive seen 17 year olds in my country that look way older than her. This community is toxic as fuck when it comes to skin. Lmao, maybe that's why cosplayer instagramers photoshop their faces so much, they get insecure because of all-mighty-cocky-superiority complexed people like these that can't accept the fact wrinkles are a part of life and even teens have it.
It's so retarded because I wouldn't give her more than 18-23... she looks super fine dafuck. Honestly, get out more into the real world and check for yourself how real people look.

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>>10266725
>I kinda just feel like the Jfash conversation is dead altogether in the anglosphere atm. There hasn't really been much to discuss since all the gyaru substyles filtered down to normie-tier, and now Larme isn't the novelty it was several years ago.

I feel the same way anon. Except for Lolita and Fairy kei, it seems like all the jfashion content is dead in the Western communities. No one really makes YouTube videos or blogs about it. Even Lolita content is dying down. Cgl doesn't even discuss other jfashions besides the 2 I mentioned. I used to check cgl several times a week a couple years, now I check it like once a month. It doesn't help that jfashion threads get completely derailed by trolls and infighting (like this one).

Now I just follow a bunch of Japanese instagrams and a few Weaterners for jfashion content. But it's really not the some, I miss when there were communities with actual discussions just a few years ago.

>> No.10272413

>>10266725
Jfash is mostly dead in Japan, it's only natural it'd die outside of it too

>> No.10272415

>>10272413
>Jfash is mostly dead in Japan
Elaborate?

>> No.10272425

>>10259954
>height to be 120
kek

>> No.10272436

>>10272413
????
Do you mean Japanese subcultures or street fashion are dead? Because general fashion is definitely not dead

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New rule for Larme threads: every time you sperg about larme being dead/Risa being fat/anything you have to post larme related photo

>> No.10272441

>>10272415
there's barley any new activity on the streets and most girls who participated in alt fash have since grown up, got adult jobs or became moms. Japanese treat this type of hobby as a "teenager" thing, once you hit a certain age you're required to re-conform to society if you wanna be a part of it

>> No.10272443

>>10272441
Junnyan is still kicking, last time I checked. I wonder what's with him.

>> No.10272453

>>10272443
he makes money from leeching off of other designers it seems.

>> No.10272530

>>10272441
Just because people don't attentionwhore on the streets anymore doesn't mean jfash is dead, just considering the high amount of shutins in japan+online shopping being a thing.

>> No.10272533

>>10272530
are you retarded? Street fashion means you wear it outside

>> No.10272555

>>10272533
jfashion doesn't need to be a street fashion to exist, lolita for example was never much of a street fashion.

>> No.10272558

>>10272555
>lolita for example was never much of a street fashion
How so? It's really only a con thing in the west.

>> No.10272562

>>10272558
Have you ever been to Japan? Street fashion means something is worn for outside daily activities and most lolitas in Japan don't dressup for things like buying groceries or on their way to work, it's weekend fashion.

>> No.10272578

>>10272377
Everybody’s into kfash now

>> No.10272594

>>10259892
2018 was not her year. She only looks good now because of that plastic surgery

>> No.10272596

>>10266774
Bjork? Wtf did that style come from

>> No.10272626

>>10259954
I think in part her ageing is due to being thinner than her body naturally should be, like some people look really shit when they lose their face fat as the fat kinda used to plump out the wrinkles, eye bags etc.

>> No.10272755

>>10266774
You’d think but it’s not. For the bunny look you put the red line where the namidabukuro would go in the earlier styles. Rather than looking flushed, you want to look like you’ve been crying over your dead fashion.
>>10272436
This. J-fashion is still very much alive, it’s just not as OTT as it used to be which makes people think alt looks are dead. Just follow some streep snap pages on Insta and you’ll get some updated stuff. There will always be teenagers who want to dress up.

>> No.10272765

>>10259943
She was never fat. Her face was rounder and that's how she accumulates her weight. Her body was never fat, even by Japanese modeling standards. You're retarded.

>> No.10272791

>>10272755
>streep snap pages on Insta

Requesting this, any particularly good pages you follow? (It doesn't have to be in English, google translate exists).

I follow some of the brand tags on insta, but everything skew very "kera-kei" and I'm interested to see what other people are wearing as street fashion.

>> No.10272836

>>10258603
This is correct. Though I do still spot quite a few girls dressing up all frilly and they still fit the larme image a bit.

>>10259866
>Her age is really showing without photoshop
I mean, even if she looks 30, 30 isn't even that old to begin with. She looks fine, and frankly, she can wear what she wants.

>> No.10272927

>>10258259
>we aren't babies playing dressup or ddlg weirdos"

that's funny, because these all read "ddlg" much more than lolita to me (I think it's the shorter skirts?):

>>10259583
>>10259950
>>10259952
>>10260244
>>10259962

>> No.10275806

>>10258259
I constantly see people say that the issues moved away from the blackxpink look but honestly I don't see it. Flipping through the magazines they appear on a consistent basis and fluctuate based on season more than anything.

>> No.10275813

>>10259883
>>10259875
People like you are horrible.

>> No.10275961

>>10275806
Those people stopped buying the magazine, if they ever did at all

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>>10275961
Yeah I don't get it. Also they never mention eatme, which is still putting out the classic "larme" look - this is from their most recent collection. Hits literally every checkbox. The other colourway is black pleather. Eatme are honestly my fav brand I love everything they put out.

>> No.10276212 [DELETED] 

>>10276095
I woudln't even know any brand that stopped doing that kida look, it's only the magazine that really switched the focus.

>> No.10276213

I wouldn't even know any brand that stopped doing that kinda look, it's only the magazine that really switched the focus, even Ank Rouge and Bobon21 still do the usual.

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>>10276095
Some more EATME appreciation - I love what they’ve been doing and they quickly became one of my favorite brands over the past year. I like that a lot of the pieces are office friendly too, so I can wear them every day (pic related). I also find the quality pretty good for the price point, which is not expensive.

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>>10258259
I definitely get what you’re saying about the policing of what is and is not Larme, but I think a lot of it was people going “This outfit is not Larme” when they really meant “this outfit does not look good.”

I remember those don’t cry baby group threads and honestly a lot of the outfits were just ugly or unflattering on a basic level, never mind the Larme aspect.

But instead of critiquing things on a basic style level it became a clusterfuck of is this or is this not Larme, plus a lot of “doesn’t suit Larme” jabs at girls’ faces and bodies. It’s literally just fucking clothes, not everyone has to be a model.

>> No.10277286

>>10276213
The magazine didn't even stop though. It's still full of the "standard" larme look even now.

>>10276540
> I like that a lot of the pieces are office friendly too, so I can wear them every day (pic related)
Right? That was one of the main things that drew me to larme in the first place, it's reasonably normie friendly but still looks unique and it can be dressed up loads for going out and special events.

>> No.10277328

>>10277286
>The magazine didn't even stop though. It's still full of the "standard" larme look even now.
Eh, compared to the early issues that made Larme popular everything looks quite toned down in recent issues.

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>>10277328
Pic very related.

>> No.10283428

>>10276795
>I remember those don’t cry baby group threads and honestly a lot of the outfits were just ugly or unflattering on a basic level, never mind the Larme aspect.

I think that's a very fair point to make.
I wonder how much of larme dying down is due to the fact that it's not a very forgiving style if you're at all overweight or very tall. That also means that the second hand market for brand clothes is pretty tiny, and imagine how much smaller lolita fashion in the West would be if the second hand market barely existed. At least if you're a lolita and get pieces you like exclusively from brands you always have the option of reselling them if there's something you dislike. Not so much with a lot of other jfashions.

>>10277330
That looks kinda disappointing. Anyone got more recent scans to share?

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>>10283428
Ehhh Larme has always had tons of not so wow outfits and the aesthetic tends to get darker and less OTT during the fall and winter.

I mean this image is from 041 and it seems pretty similar to past issues.

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>>10283448
Larme 040 by same photog

>> No.10283451

>>10259965
You have to be 18 to post on this site, you know?

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>>10283449
I also like this prairie photo shoot from 042. I should grab this issue.