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>> No.10233319

Fool, wear an apron

>> No.10233380
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Might as well post this awful thing.

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I have to ask, did Sugar Sky do all that well? I wasn't paying attention, thought it bombed.

I mean there's gotta be a reason why they keep making designs like these. Or something.

>> No.10233443

The Navy and blue aren't bad, not my thing
The purple looks kind of muddy though?

>> No.10233444


lol, I'm not the only one thinking it.



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>> No.10233448


Well, I wasn't expecting a MAGA answer.

And, honestly, I thought even the Chinese lolitas wouldn't have bought the weird new prints. Maybe I have too much faith.

>> No.10233450

It did well. Your opinions don’t dictate trends.

>> No.10233451
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Are the jewelry & accessories that Boz use in their photos their own, or do they get them from another shop? If they get them elsewhere, does anyone know the shop? I tried searching to no avail.

>> No.10233452

thank tumblr for that 500% inspired in tumblr shit

>> No.10233455

We need a cgl-tan version of this.

>> No.10233460

Board-tans are long since dead thankfully, nothing but concentrated autism.

>> No.10233462

please someone for the love of god make this

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This is such a disappointment. The art is actually beautiful and has an unusual animal for a print and a gorgeous planet. Why did they decide to make it so miniscule and turn in into a muddy ugly mess? What is it with AP this year? So many tiny all over prints.

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Also Space Lollipop could have been the new Milky Planet but it got fucked up as only an all over print.

>> No.10233486

Space lollipop is cute as hell take that back

>> No.10233487

>atelier pierrot sale
>nearly everything is from marble
how did marble survive for so long? who buys their ugly stuff? just old-school lolitas?

>> No.10233506

As far as I know, they make them themselves. I bought some in Nagoya and paid an extra 100 yen fee for them to switch them into earrings instead of pierce earrings.

>> No.10233522


Thanks, was looking for this kind of answer whether it actually did well or not.

At least now we know why AP keeps producing this kind of thing, if it sells that well.

>> No.10233538

Worst AP print of the year

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ap usa is doing a fantastic dolly mto as well as their strawberry doll mto. i am far from an ap stan but i do appreciate how accessible they are making all of these special releases/rereleases lately

>> No.10233556

anons who got the silent moon socks. do they only fit skinny short legs or can they look good on average foreginer legs too?

>> No.10233582

.... what animal is that? Red panda? Ferret?

>> No.10233584

Space Otter

>> No.10233591

>mfw it's been fantasic (not "fantastic") dolly all this time and I've been saying it wrong

>> No.10233598


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lol I tried anon, but I've never done a 4-chan style redraw before

>> No.10233609

This looks like that Haenuli galaxy print but with duller colors.

>> No.10233617 [DELETED] 


Honestly she does see. Attractive, like I would ask her out to have sex woth her because I want to sex with her.
Whether she would agree or not is another fact entirely as I am still dyel body mode at this point in my life,
But. I. Will. Get . Bigger.
Anyway I would happily sex with this woman considering normally I only fuck prostitutes (it is legal here for me) last time I accident,y stabbed her in her eye with her tiara but she’s didn’t hold it against me. I made her scream with my dick though and fingering licking her.
In a couple of days it’s the weeken a d I,l go and see another one.
Pro tip, never see the same girl more than twice as it leads to a reputation that is harder to disprove, but it’s easy since my girls roster changes every week so always new girls.
Recently I’m on tinder for 7 months and only 4 matches, it might be as the year think I’m a bit since I had no profile bio and only several photos without other people. But that she life I’ve swapped you around and she is still going down the street from the church.
>last day of high school
>Mexican groundskeepers are actually high as fuck and lying around their offices
>I get the idea to ask them
>they don the guy who was talking about the girl she had to do a lot of work.
Get asked to leave, tell them I’ll ever come back.

>> No.10233620 [DELETED] 

sounds like a markov chain bot trained on 4chan posts.

>> No.10233621 [DELETED] 

No I am a not a bot but human bandit and We are real.

>> No.10233635

Just picked up one of my dream dresses for less than half the price I was willing to pay, how's your day been?

>> No.10233638

Ohhhh if AP USA says "fantasic" then its fucking fantasic.

>> No.10233650 [DELETED] 

>>Mexican groundskeepers are actually high as fuck and lying around their offices
Their offices?
Tell me you're human again.

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Baby posted their Shanghai tea party report along with videos. Everything looks so beautiful.

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Strawberry Doll (MTO) and Fantasic Dolly (MTO) went live 20 mins ago on Angelic Pretty's US store site.
(sorry I posted this in the other general first, my bad)

>> No.10233832

It did well with chinese lolitas apparently. The release was a bloodbath that none of the western lolitas were expecting.

>> No.10233838

I bought a rare dress from lacemarket, only to be told she already sold it to someone else through Facebook. I cried for real.

>> No.10233849

Give them negative feedback. They should have had the person on fb buy it on Lacemarket or deleted the listing once they started the sale.

>> No.10233850

Bad feedback time. It's not like you can snipe something on Facebook.

>> No.10233851

I will definitely give negative feedback but that doesn't change anything for me. I want that fucking dress.

>> No.10233852

>>10233838 >>10233849
Agreed and I think, in general, it's better to avoid doing transactions exclusively through facebook. The "value" in LM, all negative issues aside, is that it's a very good record keeper that jells well with your paypal records.

I think this was suppose to launch around midnight but I guess it's early for some reason? I like that they did more then two colorways (looks like five for Fantasic Dolly?) for each re-release.

>> No.10233853 [DELETED] 

I prefer to sell and buy through facebook actually. For some reason there are a lot less scammers and no spamming from people like soapbox.

>> No.10233855

I prefer to sell and buy through facebook actually. For some reason there are a lot less scalpers and no spamming from people like soapbox

>> No.10233859


Someone once never ended up shipping my skirt and resold it through FB. Now I assume if people exclusively sell on there they have something to hide

>> No.10233860

You can still buy and sell through Facebook, just provide links and tell buyers to purchase your listing.

>> No.10233864

China gets all the best tea parties

>> No.10233920 [DELETED] 

That's an extreme reaction

>> No.10233922

Yeah because the nouveau riche lolitas buy literally everything first hand from brands. China is a huge driver in the fashion as much as western lolitas hate it. I can’t stand them either because brands are becoming tackier to cater to them, but you have to recognize why they’re being pandered to this hard.

>> No.10233924

That's an extreme reaction of you

>> No.10233926

This. It boggles my mind that anons on here try to insist that brands are "focused on Japanese customers" and "making what Japanese lolitas want." There are more lolitas in China than Japan and all of the western countries combined, so duh they make up most of the influence and demand these days.

>> No.10233932

I'm really curious now, though - how and when did it get this way? It's like there's just recently (~4-6 years ago) been a sudden boom in Chinese lolitas.

>> No.10233944

People should stop listing things to both FB and Lacemarket. Just link your Lacemarket listing to FB if you need to. It is a rule that if you make a purchase, you can't back out of it, so it should be a rule that the seller can't back out of it either.

>> No.10233948

So who here has signed up for tickets for the AP Teaparty in Hamburg? Anyone got their ticket confirmation already?

>> No.10233959

When AP opened their shop in China and started accepting their payment method, or something along the lines.

>> No.10233976

at another hand Chinese love Misty Sky, Dream Marine, Melty Berry Princess, Dolly Cat, you name it. Demand may lead to some next MTOs.

>> No.10233977

I'm trying to decide between that and the Summertales Boutique event which will also have AP. I don't even like AP, I just want to go to a nice event.

>> No.10233994

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic but, google it?? Fantasic is actually right

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Guls, does anyone have this stock photo of the Ghost Night Bride wine JSK saved. I cannot find it online anywhere. An upload would be much appreciated.

Also, since when did lolibrary stop updating?

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what makes AP sell old dresses like this, randomly? could they be tests for MTOs?

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>> No.10234072

>Also, since when did lolibrary stop updating?
Sometime in 2018.

>> No.10234073

Maybe check your brains. These are new releases.

>> No.10234076

The melty jacket is tripping me out. Cant wait to see it worn.

>> No.10234078

Seconded, please post stock pics of any cuts in any colourways, I need them all.

>> No.10234086

They re-released a bunch of stuff,check the last thread.
That mint is kind of disappointing, it's so pale.

>> No.10234087

Here's some.

White http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/picup/201808/0901_01.jpg
Lavender http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/picup/201809/0905_01.jpg
Wine http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/picup/201809/0903_01.jpg

Wine http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/picup/201809/0905_02.jpg
Lavender http://www.angelicpretty.com/newarrival/picup/201808/0901_02.jpg

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It's pretty cute.

>> No.10234090

What are you talking about, it's the perfect shade of mint

>> No.10234098


Bless you anon.

>> No.10234099

did they mix up 'coord' with 'code'?

>> No.10234106


It's a Japanese girl, so.

There used to be a website called coordisnap that Japanese girls uploaded their coords to, including lolita coords. That's why we still call them coords. The kana for coordisnap is コーデスナップ (ko-desunappu)

ko-desunappu gets shortened to ko-de, then to kode. Code.

Actually kinda normal to see it written that way for veteran Japanese lolitas because of the site's original name. It has nothing to do with coords vs cords mistake that western newbies make.

>> No.10234180

>could they be tests for MTOs?
I must be nuts, but as soon as I realized there’s no master cut jsk’s or berets, I felt like they saving those for MTO

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I really like the Strawberry Doll JSK set cut and color but I'm hesitant bc no measurements or detail photos

>> No.10234201

I'm laughing so hard at the people who bought the special set for scalped up price

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>tfw not smol uguu asian
>my beefy shoulders and ape arms will never allow me to wear cute brand released jackets

>> No.10234232

Do it anyway. Tailor it if it fits uncomfortably. Cute above all.

>> No.10234252

The jacket is so cute, but I don't have the funds right now. Do you think it'll pop up second hand?

>> No.10234255

AP Paris has measurements listed for the Special Set.
· Length: about 91 cm
· Bust: about 86-108 cm
· Waist : about 67 to 97 cm
(Because of the back shirring, some flexibility)

>> No.10234257

Thanks anon!

>> No.10234269

As a eurofag, I try to support the AP Paris store as much as possible but is it really necessary to have such a huge markup. AP blease open a store in the UK or something, or even in Russia. The demand is here.

>> No.10234288

nayrt but thank you for sharing, I had no idea!

>> No.10234311

Nah, it's true. If fb is the ~only~ place you have something listed you do have something to hide.

>> No.10234315

I almost ALMOST did, finger on the button but didn't press it. WHEW so close

>> No.10234324

How does it work with the AP USA MTOs when you won't be living in the same place when the dress will be shipped? I'm leaving town in April and I have no idea where I'm going to be living in July when strawberry doll ships. I sent an email to AP and haven't had a response.

>> No.10234327

Do you have a family member who can receive the package for you? Meaning, could you have it sent to the house of someone you trust?

>> No.10234379

Some people have problems to connect their Paypal to LM. I've had honest and good buyers message me because they weren't able to buy my sales for that reason.

>> No.10234405

Reminds me of tie & dye

>> No.10234413

Which one?

>> No.10234423

I guess half of my comm has something to hide then lmao

>> No.10234437

hope you're right anon, i just want my fucking beret atm

>> No.10234446

Usually you can't order. You're going to have to come up with a valid Japanese address.

>> No.10234450

I don't wear sweet but I really want to buy the usakumya lace wrist-cuffs. Someone please stop me.

>> No.10234456

My bad, I misread. Just update your address with AP USA when you know what it will be.

>> No.10234461

>asking /cgl/ to stop you from buying burando

>> No.10234481


It's tacky and horrible, but so am I.

>> No.10234490
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More photos of AP F/W 2019

>> No.10234491

I really miss the old AP.

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>> No.10234505

this is so depressing

>> No.10234513

I'll be the one saying I love everything in this to show /cgl/ is not a hivemind. Except Crescent Princess, that shit is ugly.

>> No.10234515

Also same.

>> No.10234520

Damn, it's really pretty! Congrats, anon!

>> No.10234530

All of these could easily be mistaken for Taobao dresses, especially top right.

>> No.10234531

I used to have it and it is so comfy and versatile. Congrats!

>> No.10234542

Debate: What brand makes the best petticoats?

>> No.10234544

literally all of these are disgusting.

>> No.10234564
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Hey gulls, i love this dress but i'm afraid it might come off as ageplay¿what do y'all think?

>> No.10234565

Bottom right is cute, y'all just biased.

>> No.10234566


>> No.10234583

their main pieces can be pretty heavy

>> No.10234603

Sweet in general looks like ageplay
So go for it

>> No.10234655

Bottom right is cute but doesn’t fit AP’s aesthetic. It also looks like you bought it for 300 rmb from a random Taobao brand. Imo the whole point of buying burando is that you can buy something unique that fits with the aesthetic of the brand. Otherwise there’s no point in buying something so expensive when you could get it for cheaper.

>> No.10234661

love the first top and bottom ones
actually i love the whole bottom row but wouldn't wear the other three myself
i do miss the old sweet border print AP stuff though

>> No.10234665

This many times. When I look at drawings by Ms Lutra or Maki (not AP designer) I wonder why don’t they do some sweet stuff like it was before. Sure, they cater to more adult audience, but hey, look at Halloween Treats or Toy Doll Box, look at the rush around MTOs. People still appreciate some cute darling motifs, why did they stop doing those?

>> No.10234667

Just wear "mature" pieces with it;
>DON'T wear a sailor blouse like the model; wear something with lace, maybe elbow or long sleeve and/puff sleeves that don't end too high on the arm (avoid a cap-sleeve length). >Make sure the neckline isn't scooped in any way and that it either has a lot of detail around the neck or a decorative collar.
>add an underskirt if you need to to get the hem to end at least below your knee. The extra visable layer will make it look more "complicated" and less "childish"
>wear tights or socks that end at or above the knee. Showing a bear leg with this print would lean it more towards fetish. Have fun with the leggwear in terms of color and print; try to avoid pure white.
>Shoes can be any Lolita shoe that would match, avoid any kind of "alice look" with white legwear and black shoes.
>Lastly, carry a top-handle purse. Top handle purses are old fashion and project a less childlike vibe.

Overall what I'm trying to say is that the best way not to look like ageplay is to make sure the dress's print is the most childish thing about your coord and then everything else should have a "not a little kid" look to it.

>> No.10234669

Okay, I posted this and I feel a bit bad because if talking about me myself, I would rather wear some borderline sweet like FD or Misty Sky, but it’s still far from what they’re doing now.

>> No.10234672

>Showing a bear leg

>> No.10234685

Bare bear leg? Keep fursuits out of lolita and wear socks REEEEEEEEE

>> No.10234694 [DELETED] 

I bought a dress from Josine and it reeked so badly. I guess this is why she never sells on Lacemarket, only Facebook.
I hope she never gets the meta teddy backpack.

>> No.10234703

is that the hoe that keeps whining about it in the thread?

>> No.10234708

What did it smell like?

>> No.10234714

Look anon, I can see if they'd prefer to sell between each other first, but yes, you should wonder why they don't even use depop or some other normie ass platform everyone knows about.

>> No.10234717

Moldy hobo

>> No.10234746

Literally nobody knows what depop is in my country, we have our own websites you know? We use Facebook when we want to sell/buy from EU countries only. There are still some dumb people on lacemarket that don't want to mark parcels down.

>> No.10234755

You're gonna look like an ageplayer in sweet either way.

>> No.10234761

Hack off the shapeless bodice and wear it as a skirt.

>> No.10234766

>doesn’t fit AP’s aesthetic
You obviously don't keep up with their non print series then.

>> No.10234769

I was referring to the stupid argument there was in a previous thread.

>> No.10234772

Not how you greentext. Lurk moar

>> No.10234801 [DELETED] 

What the heck kinda bonnet is that???That’s ridiculous. It’s just a disc attached to the back of her head with limo jace hanging down.

>> No.10234802

Where were the names posted? I’ve seen lotsa pics of the dresses but no print names

>> No.10234803

I’m interested in the difference between the OPs and what the JSKs will be. Plenty of times I’ve hated the OP in the first catalog pics but then upon release when they show the JSK cuts I like it better. It seems they target the OPs at the Chinese lolitas’ tastes and the JSKs at western tastes. As is I’m not a fan but I’m waiting for now to pass judgement

>> No.10234805

I agree with this so hard!!

>> No.10234888

Crescent Princess was already released.

>> No.10234934

Literally zero inspiration.

Also wtf half of these have the same limp bow tie deal at the collar.

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Is AP trying to do punk?

>> No.10235007

It’s the staff’s personal account

>> No.10235166
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Can anyone ID the dress that Laura Bailey wore at GenCon?

>> No.10235169

Ayy, I have the other version of this jsk, and the beret, ganggang

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I think this dress is less about the sweet print and more the fact that it seems to be a salopette instead of a jsk. Does it have any other cuts? Although personally I think you should just say fuck it and wear it anyway and take inspo from how people coord Sweet Baby Room and avoid a bonnet.

>> No.10235189
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Where are my >40cm shoulder width at? OPs and blouses are hell for me, even bodyline blouses. How do I combat looking top heavy as fuck

>> No.10235193

Certain bitches will think it's ageplay just because it's sweet, normal people see animal babies.

>> No.10235195

my shoulders are 38cm and i'm afraid to buy from most brands.

>> No.10235215

When I had 42 cm shoulders and 78 cm bust I wore blouses from mainly MmM but also IW sizes S and M, VM, BPN and AatP. As long as there was a light gathering I could lift my arms freely and it looked as best as it could. I now only wear MmM and AatP men's size, so that's also an option for you 38 cm anon who's scared of brand.

>> No.10235506

I just buy vintage 1950s / 1940s blouses at this point. Vintage pieces often have a dull element to their color, but I'm willing to attempt that for classic lolita.

>> No.10235519

Most of my blouses are vintage, they work well with Gothic and classic.
Though it's hard to find something that isn't off white or black

>> No.10235520

I guess I'm safe this year

>> No.10235522

Ew. Flimsy and bad looking but I think it's that meta star garden print from the cut

>> No.10235531

Nayrt but where do you find nice vintage blouses? I always only find ugly stuff or normie blouses from 10 years ago.

>> No.10235538

thought the same lmao

>> No.10235551

Is it worth it to go to an event with Angelic Pretty as a special guest if you don't like AP? I really want to go to a big event but both of them have AP...

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Isn’t the AP candy account still official?

>> No.10235554

I just go to the thrift stores and vintage stores consistently. Like, at least once or twice a month at the minimum. I often don't buy anything, but the frequency ups your changes for finding something good. It's handy to try it on in person, saves the disappointment of something coming in the mail and it not working out. Read up on laundry techniques also; the more you know about washing and treating fabric, the more likely you can tease a bit more life out of an old blouse. Sometimes the color might seem different because it's been literally collecting dust for a few decades and then you might wash it and find out it's a shade or two lighter.

>> No.10235681

looks like shitty taobao and couldn't possibly be Meta like the other anon suggests

>> No.10235684

Other than Be My Valentine, AP has been looking pretty cheap this year. Even that print shouldn't have been made in polyester.

>> No.10235686

the librarians need to get off their asses or let the rest of us make and update entries before it dies.

>> No.10235689 [DELETED] 

Early 2018, around feb. it’s been over a year and a half now.

>> No.10235693

Does that necessarily speak to a decrease in brand quality or just an increase in general Taobao brand quality though?

>> No.10235712

>making wild assumptions
The librarians want to add updates, but there's backend issues. They literally can't.

>> No.10235719

thanks for updating us on that, because they sure didn't

>> No.10235740

then how come I've known that they were waiting on these issues to be resolved before adding the wishlist feature and adding recent releases? they have been updating us, wtf have you been?

>> No.10235743
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Obviously people who buy Sheglit, Atelier Pierrot, Atelier Boz and Miho Matsuda exist, so how come I never see those brands irl? Wasn't Atelier Pierrot one of the first brands to offer international shipping? I have seen more people wear Physical Drop irl and they were not even plus-size.

>> No.10235775

Most people are the west are whipped on sweet lolita. Also, physical drop looks super comfy and pretty unrestricted, so i'm not surprised western lolitas love it so much.

>> No.10235781

Atelier Pierrot is even for sale in America, in the San Francisco storefront that Angelic Pretty rents.

>> No.10235782

I didn't ask why I only see sweet lolitas. My comm has a decent amount of gothic and classic lolitas. The brands I mentioned also have comfy dresses.

>> No.10235785

Then my guess is that all the people just wear moitie, idk.

>> No.10235786

Yes but I asked why, if you don't know the answer you don't need to reply.

>> No.10235808

I have owned several AtPie main pieces and countless accessories by pierrot and boz. Your comm is not really representative of the west.
BPN is my actual fav gothic brand of all time, but AtPie also makes amazing stuff. lightweight, pretty fabric choices and details, great comfort.
We can't tell you why your commmates don't wear these brands more. Maybe they only have their finger on the pulse of brands that are more talked about by release. I could see how Johnny-come-lately's wouldn't know much about these brands since the dissolution of GLB.

>> No.10235827

I honestly think it's because you can't get status out of these brands.

>> No.10235829

I really like those brands, but, for me, it's easier to get MmM, for example. It's readily available on 2nd hand market (search on WW and CC, for example. My fav Boz pieces were never there) and has a nice resell value, so if I don't like it or feel like selling, it's very easy to go.

>> No.10235833

Everyone I've seen wearing AtePie in my country have been classic lolitas

>> No.10235842

I think it is an area thing, I have never seen a PD piece irl but I have seen many atelier Pierrot pieces, and own some. I don’t think you have a good sample size.

Boz admittedly is harder to get and has weird sizing but I think you can say most gothic Lolita’s own a Roland or two. There is like 2 Pierrot stuff everyone gets, the corset dress/skirt and the fully shirred dress. Miho is underrated but I think they don’t market here enough and aren’t doing anything to get the western market.Moitie is status though, so it is the top. But otherwise you need to look more carefully.

>> No.10235885

People in my home comm mostly wear sweet (AP & Chinese brands) and are young. The brands you mentioned are more popular with my older lolita friends who I rarely see in person.

I love all of these brands but here are the problems I see for each one for their popularity:
Sheglit - relatively new brand (first few years of releases were bad, they just got their stride in the past 2 years), hard to get second hand, many items are not lolita enough for cof
Atelier Pierrot - half of the items are corset laced and hard to wear/hot, the other half are pajama like not so "lolita"
Atelier Boz - very cool, but very plain, also hard to obtain, sizing is not forgiving because no shirring
Miho Matsuda - more goth than lolita, sizing was quite small until they recently released L size

One major problem with frilly, fancy, goth as I'll call these is that you need heels or platform heels for them to look good, which restricts where and whom can wear the style.

>> No.10235906

Gothic is much harder to wear OTT than other substyles, as well, so it's harder for a beginner lolita to justify an expensive purchase with a fairly simple design. Even AtePie's fanciest pieces are mostly decorated with ruffles, without the eye-catching prints or bright colors of sweet and classic OTT.

>> No.10235977

Exactly why I wish there was more emphasis on the "cute" part of gothic lolita, instead of the
"gothic" part, because it's stagnated into every plain black dress.

We need more prints and lace and cute stuff in gothic, and not just "bittersweet"

>> No.10236012
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New Release † Crystal Coffin Ring 【made-to-order】

A rerelease of our iconic blue coffin ring, this time available made-to-order in six sizes.

23,000 yen + tax

Size 7 (47.0mm)
Size 9 (49.0mm)
Size 11 (51.0mm)
Size 13 (53.0mm)
Size 15 (55.0mm)
Size 17 (57.0mm)


925 sterling silver
Swarovski crystals

August 10~30

【Release Date】
December 2019

Made by hand so each ring may differ slightly
May be available for direct purchase after release but in a limited range of sizes


>> No.10236026
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Headdress with Mini Veil (Solid) (ミニヴェール付ヘッドドレス (ムジ))
Price: 9,180 yen


Outer material: polyester 100%
Item#: 15084019
Notes: The accessories are detachable
Lace Frill Tiered Dress (Solid) (レースフリルティアードジャンパースカート (ムジ))
Price: 32,184 yen


Length: BC-72cm (28.3in)+ frill 5cm (1.9in)
Bust: 86cm (33.8in) ~ 117cm (46.0in)
Waist: 70cm (27.5in) ~ 101cm (39.7in)
Skirt length: W-55cm (21.6in)+ frill 5cm (1.9in)

Outer material: polyester 100%
Item#: 12084012
Notes: Waist ties and the 2 ribbon brooches are detachable
Release date: 2nd August (It's up)

>> No.10236038
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BTSSB - Pearl Bouquet Series

Pearl Bouquet One Piece Dress (Pearl Bouquet柄ワンピース)
Price: 46,224 yen

Length: 98 cm ( 38.58 inch )
Shoulder width: 34 cm ( 13.39 inch )
Sleeve length: 45 cm ( 17.72 inch )
Bust: 90 cm ( 35.43 inch )
Waist: 68 cm ( 26.77 inch )

Outer material: Cotton 100%
Item#: B43OP357
Pearl Bouquet Jumper Skirt I (Pearl Bouquet柄ジャンパースカートI)
Price: 30,024 yen

Length: 93 cm ( 36.61 inch )
Bust: 84 ~ 100 cm ( 33.07 ~ 39.37 inch )
Waist: 75 ~ 94 cm ( 29.53 ~ 37.01 inch )

Outer material: Cotton 100%
Item#: B43OJ222
Pearl Bouquet Jumper Skirt II (Pearl Bouquet柄ジャンパースカートII)
Price: 31,104 yen

Length: 94 ~ 97 cm ( 37.01 ~ 38.19 inch )
Bust: 90 ~ 102 cm ( 35.43 ~ 40.16 inch )
Waist: 74 ~ 85 cm ( 29.13 ~ 33.46 inch )

Outer material: Cotton 100%
Item#: B43OJ223
Pearl Bouquet Skirt (Pearl Bouquet柄スカート)
Price: 18,144 yen

Length: 57 cm ( 22.44 inch )
Waist: 64 ~ 76 cm ( 25.20 ~ 29.92 inch )

Outer material: Cotton 100%
Item#: B43SK511

>> No.10236039

Pearl Bouquet Lace Collar Blouse (Pearl Bouquetレース衿ブラウス)
Price: 19,224 yen

>Off white

Length: 48 cm ( 18.90 inch )
Shoulder width: 34.5 cm ( 13.58 inch )
Sleeve length: 65 cm ( 25.59 inch )
Bust: 90 cm ( 35.43 inch )
Waist: 74 cm ( 29.13 inch )

Outer material: polyester 100%
Item#: B43BL441
Reservation date: Friday, August 9th, 12:00 JST to Thursday, August 15th, 12:00 JST

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BTSSB - Pearl Bouquet Series

Pearl Bouquet Head Bow (Pearl Bouquet柄カチューシャ)
Price: 4,860 yen

Item#: B43OH914
Pearl Bouquet Head Dress (Pearl Bouquet柄ヘッドドレス)
Price: 4,536 yen

Item#: B43OH915
Pearl Bouquet Bonnet (Pearl Bouquet柄ボンネット)
Price: 12,744 yen

Item#: B43OH916
Pearl Bouquet Over Knee Socks (Pearl Bouquet柄オーバーニーソックス)
Price: 2,376 yen

>White × Lavender
>Ivory × Pink
>Ivory × Navy
>Black × Pink

Sock size: 22 ~ 24 cm ( 8.66 ~ 9.45 inch)

Item#: B43SC836
Pearl Bouquet Cuffs (Pearl Bouquetお袖とめ)
Price: 4,104 yen

>White × Lavender ribbon
>White × Navy ribbon
>Ivory × Pink ribbon
>Ivory × Red ribbon
>Ivory × Navy ribbon
>Black × Black ribbon

Item#: B43OT052
Reservation date: Friday, August 9th, 12:00 JST to Thursday, August 15th, 12:00 JST

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(sorry for the spam)

>> No.10236047
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Shit I really like the print

>> No.10236049

>We need more prints and lace and cute stuff in gothic
No we don’t. Fuck off you larping sweetfag

>> No.10236112

Didn't you have problems with blouses riding up as soon you raise your arms or taking away length from your sleeves?

I'm also a 42cm anon, and even with all the chinese stuff out there, it's hard to find decent blouses that fit well. Aside from that I never really bothered trying brand blouses since their sizes mostly stop around 37-38cm. Only exceptions are certain AtPie blouses with back shirring that have a standard shoulder width of 43cm. And I've also heard meta blouses are supposed to be fairly accomodating, although I lack further Information on that.

>> No.10236122

I always wore tightlaced jsks so I don't remember having the riding up problem, all of my sleeves were like 3/4 sleeves but I did not mind. Most of my comm are 168 or taller/plus size so everyone walks around with too short sleeves

>> No.10236125

Nayrt but I suppose I'd like more prints. Not cute stuff though, if I wanted cute I'd wear sweet.

>> No.10236207


So for the first time ever I'm really digging the print but not the cuts.

Do people usually still buy the dresses if they like the print but not the cut? I'm not really sure if I want to give the dress a pass but I can't really picture myself in any of these.

>> No.10236221

If I don't love the cuts but I want the print, I buy the skirt. It's the cheapest cut and I can usually match it with a bustier. I got a lot of bustiers through trades for some reason.

>> No.10236223

We do need more lace. What gothic brand does custom lace besides Moitie?

>> No.10236262
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I started noticing some girls calling their (toned-down) lolita coords aomoji kei instead of lolita. Is this a new way to avoid getting blocked from social media searches for using "lolita" or getting followed by creeps?

>> No.10236263

Lady Sloth just started doing their own lace

>> No.10236275
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is it just me or these are replicas? on mercari. ugh

>> No.10236292

I think so! Especially the one on the right.

>> No.10236400

I read the part where it says this is a re-release so it's not a product of "mew Moitie" but goddamn it's cheap looking... it literally looks like a party ring you could buy a 4 pack of for about 2 bucks.

>> No.10236403

And... it's the price of a dress. wtf

>> No.10236413

what makes you think these are replicas?

>> No.10236421

The blurry/covered AP logo makes even me think they're replica bags. Not to mention the pictures just look strange and off

>> No.10236424 [DELETED] 

They have a filter over them dumbass

>> No.10236426

Why would you post a filter over pictures of stuff you're selling. That's a major red flag. Have you seen other listings? The ones that sell have clear listings and real pictures of ownership

>> No.10236432 [DELETED] 

Plenty of sellers on LM and Mercari do. I’ve bought some myself and it turned out fine each time. Lurk moar newfag.

>> No.10236436 [DELETED] 


2 seconds on mercari and found this. I doubt you have been shopping on the secondhand Japanese sites for long because it’s pretty common for them to use some kind of filter in their sales post.

>> No.10236454

I hate the cuts too. The karami style cut is cut if you're short or thin enough. I know it has shirring but the bodice area would look really bad on a bigger chest. The bustle jsk isn't bad, I just don't like chiffon ruffles

>> No.10236463
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Petal Doll OP (ペタルドールワンピース)
Price: 24,840 yen (with tax)

>black x white

Length: 110 cm (including lace)
Shoulder width: 36 cm
Sleeve length: 62 cm
Sleeve cuffs: 24 〜 38 cm
Bust: 102 cm

Outer material: Polyester 100%
Item#: TOP3038wn (wine), TOP3038bk (black), TOP3038bkwh (black x white)

>> No.10236512
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Posting again for those that don't know.

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>> No.10236544

Great, just what we needed. More polyester nightgowns.

>> No.10236561

The feedback and listing

>> No.10236566

>Paypal fee is 9,9%, also not included.
Did paypal raise their fees or is this a scam?

>> No.10236568

The term “aomoji kei” has been around for a while. Aomoji kei refers to styles that are influenced by trends in Harajuku which are often documented in fashion mags. Think of the difference between magazines like KERA and Zipper vs. ViVi and CanCam. KERA and Zipper are mags that feature aomoji kei whereas the style in ViVi and CanCam is akamoji kei.

>> No.10236569

PayPal fees are not that much. Check PayPal‘s website

>> No.10236570

I know that. I just noticed people using that more often instead of tagging with lolita what is clearly a lolita coord. I myself have been using eglcommunity and told my family I wear EGL when asked about my style even though I don't wear goth. I think I might start using aomoji kei too.

>> No.10236595

Do Korean lolitas have their own secondhand facebook group or platform like lacemarket?

>> No.10236641

Moitie jewllery has always sucked except for their lace and swarovski pieces. They still look cheap as fuck with their brand name on

>> No.10236662


It's the high-waist with the lace-up on both sides that I don't dig, but it has just occurred to me that I could remove all of the lacing and layer my blouse/bustier over it. I might do that instead, thanks.


I like the plain karami cut, but it seems kind of mismatched with that floral print somewhat. Same thought on the bustle jsk, I really dislike the bottom ruffle and the two side bows somehow. Ah well.

>> No.10236666


Doing God's work. Thanks anon.

>> No.10236668

No they are not supposed to be that high. Also, isn't against Paypal's terms to charge fees? Aren't they the sellers responsibility? It's usually against the terms of most sales comms to charge fees afterwards. If this is an LM seller, report them to the mods.

>> No.10236669

is mintkismet really a model? her recent shots from a company look completely different from her selfies.....

>> No.10236670

Yes. She has appeared in ads etc.

>> No.10236683

Id like this if i werent a womanlet :/ it would look awful on me.

>> No.10236722

It bothers me that these are on mercari. I thought that Japanese sales are comparatively safe place to buy brand.

>> No.10236730

Holy shit this is cute!! I really love AtePi's releases lately.

>> No.10236731

Really? It's nice to see it come up again. Last time it was relevant when Kyari and Amo where huge, around 2013 or so.

>> No.10236739 [DELETED] 

It is one of their swarovski pieces. It says so in the post in this thread. Fans asked for this ring to be re-released because it doesn't pop up often. Moitie has released more expensive coffin rings in the past.

This reminds me of when nobody on cgl realised the Juliet OP was a re-release and complained it doesn't look like Moitie. You all only follow AP and don't know shit about other brands, so just be quiet and let us finally complete our collection in peace.

>> No.10236746

I've seen wunderwelt use it for otome kei bands

>> No.10236759

It is one of their swarovski pieces. It says so in the post in this thread. Fans asked for this ring to be re-released because it doesn't pop up often. Moitie has released more expensive coffin rings in the past.

This reminds me of when nobody on cgl realised the Juliet OP was a re-release and complained it doesn't look like Moitie. You all only follow AP and don't know shit about other brands, so just be quiet and let us finally complete our collection in peace.

>> No.10236766

It’s because none of these complainers actually know the brand. The original is on rakuten for around the same price. It’s actually silver so calling it cheap looking is laughable

>> No.10236772

I guess for 23000 yen they think it should be made by princesses and for the blue coffin to be a massive gem too. Fast fashion and slavery ruined people's expectations of how much things cost.

>> No.10236825

Same, but the Chinese will try anything to sell replicas.

>> No.10236829

To people who aren't rich: what's the most you've ever spent on a cardigan?

>> No.10236831


>> No.10236869
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Okay I want to buy pic related but it costs 1 week of my salary

>> No.10236878

oh dang, that's really cute.
you may need to just wait and save up and then try to get it secondhand if it becomes unavailable in store.
don't worry, it's happened to the lot of us. start saving little bits now.

>> No.10236887

I don't need to save up, I can use this week's salery. I just feel really stupid for spending that much of my income on 1 cardigan. Abilletage can be hard to find secondhand.

>> No.10236907


>> No.10236909

I forgot to specify I'm asking about lolita

>> No.10236911

She has a spouse visa and teaches English. She’s white and thin so gets the occasional unpaid or paid model job despite having no chin

>> No.10236927

120 or whatever that Moitie one went for when it was released last fall. But I bought it new. Otherwise second hand Btssb and AP I won’t spend over 40 for

>> No.10236931

I almost bought the Moitie one too but I stopped myself by looking at all the cheap af dresses I could buy secondhand for the same amount of money. It's stupid though, I really don't need more dresses and I never found a Moitie cardigan secondhand.

>> No.10236933

It also doesn't have a strong resale value, generally, so you should only buy it with the knowledge that you probably won't make nearly that much back if you resell in future.

Beyond that, it comes down to whether or not you think it's worth the money to you, personally. It can be a bit weird the first time you really splurge on clothing, but if you think the item is high-quality, if you're willing to put in the time/expense to take proper care of it, and you believe that it will make you happy to wear for a long time to come, then it may actually be a better investment than buying several cheaper items that don't bring you as much joy and will wear out more quickly.

>> No.10236937

What do you think of your Moitie cardigan and how was the sizing? It doesn't have shoulder measurements listed, but I've tried on a Moitie cutsew and it was 1cm too small for me. Also, I wanted the cardigan in white, but I'd be too afraid to make it dirty.

>> No.10236938

I think about $130 for an innocent world lace bolero directly from their website

>> No.10236941

they show up, they just sell very fast especially when priced well. i managed to snag one for around $35 once, but i think next time they release one i like i'll buy firsthand just so i don't have to be a constant vulture circling mercari and LM to get one, let alone one for a good deal.

>> No.10236945

>next time they release one
They still make them and keep re-stocking them. I think the only things they don't re-stock often are the stuff with custom lace?

>> No.10236946

yeah, i was thinking specifically of those. all about that custom lace, i love that kind of detailing the most

>> No.10236948
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Why did BABY do this poor girl dirty like this? Her makeup looks like she has butthole eyes.

>> No.10236954

speaking of moitie- please help a girl find wrist-cuffs that look nice with moitie since i can't find the real thing. the only ones i found in stock are from marble and atelier pierrot and they are. not elegant,

>> No.10236968

~200 USD on a Nile Perch cardigan

>> No.10236975 [DELETED] 

You need to put more care into wiping

>> No.10236977 [DELETED] 

I find that model really ugly personally, I don’t know why Baby chose her to start with. Something about her always looks dirty like she hasn’t bathed.

>> No.10236985

Same, I have 2 new ones because I liked the one I found used so much

>> No.10236989

60 $$$

>> No.10236994

In high school I paid 180€ including custom fees for an IW lace bolero directly from the site. Equivalent to two months of my income then. I used it daily for several winters and it kept up with minimal pilling. 100% worth it.

>> No.10237002

I have some I like from Enchantic Enchantilly

>> No.10237031

If they are international, these fees may be correct (since paypal charges another fee on the currency transfer)
BUT yeah they aren't supposed to add the paypal fee on top of the price (though a lot of people do)

>> No.10237072

Does anyone know if it'd be worth it to buy only a cardigan from IW to the US, or would the shipping be very high? I imagine people usually buy dresses to make the shipping worthwhile, but I prefer skirts, so I'd only be buying the bolero and a pair of socks.

Different anon - I had a seller charge me PayPal fees, but the way they did it was to say I could pay as Friends & Family or I could pay the extra fees if I chose Buying/Selling. Idk how to give feedback on that. Like, it was my choice... because I wanted purchase protection in case I get scammed.

>> No.10237076

the seller is required to pay the fees, not you. she was being a scammer in that regard.

>> No.10237082

Leave neutral or negative feedback and contact mods on FB

Also buying those boleros from either IW or WW in the US the shipping is not expensive at all. Maybe 2000¥ or less

>> No.10237114

>say I could pay as Friends & Family or I could pay the extra fees if I chose Buying/Selling.
I just tell them it's against the rules and they usually back down. Just quote them rule #2.
>Paypal personal payments are not permitted, and fees must be paid by the seller, not by the buyer as a surcharge. Violation of these rules could result in removal of listings or disabled accounts.

>> No.10237129

I chickened out and left a positive but mentioned it in my text. Sorry, anons...

>> No.10237145

Good lord you are spineless. You and anyone else who didn't report that seller are a detriment to the secondhand market.

>> No.10237203

Literally who reads reviews of sellers instead of just the numbers that show up on the listing? How useless

>> No.10237207

>not reading the reviews
Why. Everyone knows that there are both false positives and false negatives, so a skim through the written reviews is the best way to get a good grasp of the seller.

>> No.10237244

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is literally no data to back up that claim lol

>> No.10237275

And that's why all Japanese lolita brand ship to China! Oh wait they don't.

>> No.10237572

The big, important ones all do.

>> No.10237576
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Price: 29,160 yen (with tax)

>Pink rose
>Blue rose

Length: 108 cm
Shoulder width: 31.5 cm
Sleeve cuffs: 27 cm
Bust: 88 cm
Waist: 75 cm
Bodice length: 34.5 cm

Outer material: 87% cotton 13% nylon (Khaki, Pink rose, Blue rose), 66% rayon 34% nylon (Pink), 75% cotton 25% nylon (Grey)
Notes: There is also a summer sale happening!
Sale period: 9th August 19:00 JST to 20th August 23:59

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>> No.10237653

dayum she thicc

>> No.10237692

Making more clothes faster doesn't make a brand more important sweaty, it's actually less in line with what lolita fashion is.

>> No.10237695

Gulls are so obsessed with China lately. Even after AP staff said they make more polyester main-pieces because Japanese people in Japan have very little storage space.
I'm not saying their international customers don't influence them at all, but stop acting like every brand is sucking Chinese asshole for every single release you don't like.

>> No.10237717

fanny YES

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>> No.10237723

Why did she edit her butt larger? It looks so lopsided

>> No.10237726

That's a normal butt size

>> No.10237758

No one in lolita fashion would edit their butt larger hun.

>> No.10237790

I don't think she did, it's the angle + having one leg forward that make it look bigger. If you look at the thickness of her thighs it would be a pretty normal butt for the size of her legs, not like a bubble butt or even an aspirational butt by today's standards.

>> No.10237793

wow shit went fast

>> No.10237799

i dont think its edited. she disguises it well in a lot of photos but she has a very curvaceous figure

>> No.10237810

You mean YES.

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>> No.10237891

lol Wow Fanny could you be any more obvious?

>> No.10238004

oh man I am laffin

>> No.10238009

Does anyone know what the quality on this dress is like? It looks ok, but you can never be sure with taobao. I was considering getting it but I don't want a shit dress

>> No.10238020

there was a little discussion of it back in june that you can find on an archive site

>> No.10238031

Does Moss Märchen only sell at events or does she have an actual store somewhere? Her etsy has been closed since 2017 and I can't find any way to contact her on facebook or her instagram

>> No.10238032

I have a bodyline dress with the same fabric used on the middle dress.

>> No.10238248

what's the best place to get a pair of simple, plain, flat platform mary janes excluding taobao? It's surprisingly hard for me to find anything like this. I'd get RHS if I could find em...

>> No.10238250

Do you think there will ever come a time when all dresses of a certain print/design will be owned by people who want to keep them forever and essentially become unobtainable?

>> No.10238251

I can't find rhs on anything but taobao either, and I need to use paypal. :/

>> No.10238264
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what happened to AP's lace game?

>> No.10238267

About 45 for a brand one second hand
I wear cardigans a lot but I just can't justify buying them new when I know they will get fuzzy & worn anyways

>> No.10238272

Cheap and lazy just like everything else they make now

>> No.10238295


No, even they will die eventually and the dresses either end up in a landfill or at goodwill.

You should be more concerned the dresses nobody wants, ie- stained, bleached, worn out, or maybe just so unpopular it can't even be given away so the owner just throws it in the donation bin. Maybe some day enough of them will get donated to India and we'll see some orphan wearing AP while using btssb rags to clean their pots and pans.

>> No.10238298

Dr Martens or Yosuke

>> No.10238300

One of my otome dream dresses is rare only because it’s old. The only times I’ve seen non-stock photos of it are in a couple of yja! listings and in one girl’s closet tour vlog. Ironically, she also says she was never able to fit into the dress in her vlog.

>> No.10238344

TB still lives with her parents. Just wait till she has to move out and grow up.

>> No.10238402

Nayrt but she owns my dream dress too and doesn't fit it lol. Can't wait for her moving sale.

>> No.10238442

She seems like the type whose parents coddle her and she’ll never move out if she doesn’t have to desu. I know a girl who has a similar hoarding problem but with kpop and BL merch and part of it is that her parents coddle and enable her to build up huge collections and hoard because it’ll make it harder for her to move out. But she’s content with her living situation so whatever, I guess.

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Is it bad that one of the reasons I am looking forward to having my daughter is that I can buy her lolita fashion(is it even considered lolita if a little girl is wearing it??)? No I don't plan on bring a kid to a meetup... Though it would be pretty awesome to have a lolita tea party with other moms and their daughters I can also see that being a hilarious disaster. I just think it would be a really cute thing to do and it would make for an epic photo album to look over in the future and she would have a nice childhood full of whimsical princess attire I never got to have growing up. It may also be a good way to teach them early on to respect their things and mind their manners.

>> No.10238588 [DELETED] 

I always cringe when I see shit like this. It always feels like a red flag for an overbearing parent. I hope you respect your daughter if she doesn’t want to wear it and don’t force her to.

>> No.10238591 [DELETED] 

Oh, of course not. I just think it would be fun thing for us to do together, but if she isn't in the mood I would never force it. I just want to share my interests with her, if she never likes it or grows out of it then I wouldn't force her to do it.

>> No.10238595 [DELETED] 

There is a very good chance she will naturally get into it simply because mommy does it. Little kids tend to imitate their parents, I know I was super into shoes and make up as a toddler because my mother was. And I still love shoes and make up, obviously. Everyone is different but its a pretty safe bet to make that she will want to do the things and dress up like mom does.

>> No.10238601 [DELETED] 

Oh god, I remember getting into my moms makeup as a little kid and getting into so much trouble, that and nail polish. I kinda wish she bought me some fake makeup or kid friendly nail polish to do as a child instead of locking me out of it completely because I wasn't grown up yet. I feel like there could have been a compromise that could have been a good way to bond as well as help me express myself. I really looked up to her and wanted to be like her. I don't want to lock my child out of this kind of fashion because she is young and like hell I am giving up lolita just because I am having children so I know she will be exposed to it, I want to be able to help her learn how to do it the moment she displays interest.

>> No.10238603 [DELETED] 

Its classic childhood shenanigans, really. I have a picture of me wearing my moms high heels, wearing some (badly applied) lipstick holding one of those fake disney princess cellphones. I was a total mess but the photo is still cute. Just don't be surprised or too upset when she ruins one of her outfits. That is a given, but I think it is still a really sweet idea.

>> No.10238604

I really don't like this parenting fad that kids should be raised as cultureless genderless entities and parents should abstain from showing kids any sort of interest. It's not overbearing to expose a child to a hobby or interest. Kids are eager and exited to learn and see new things with their parents.

>> No.10238605 [DELETED] 

>Just don't be surprised or too upset when she ruins one of her outfits.
I will be heartbroken when it happens, not gonna lie, but I have already accepted that this will certainly happen. I want to teach her to be respectful of her nice clothing, but I know there is going to be a lot of trail and error. Just gotta accept the dress will get a friggin' chocolate stain or god knows what eventually.

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These memories are so sweet. I remember when I was a kid my mom was super put together with her makeup and jewels and chiffon blouses. As I grew older and the housing market burst my mom had to work two jobs and no longer could afford the luxuries to indulge herself and dress up.
You don't notice these things till you're older. My mom still doesn't dress up anymore but her bedroom is full of decades old makeup and unworn jewlery.

>> No.10238608

>full of whimsical princess attire I never got to have growing up
Parenting isn't about you. It's about your kid. Don't live vicariously through your kid.

>> No.10238609 [DELETED] 

Thats such a shame, I am sorry your family got hit with hard times like that. And yeah, those memories are so nice to look back on. What I would give to relive those days again. At least we can cherish those memories forever.

>> No.10238611 [DELETED] 

Giving your child something you didn't have growing up isn't wrong or bad.

>> No.10238612

jesus christ, this literally looks like replica lace with the logo tacked on. i hate it

>> No.10238615 [DELETED] 

Same here. Like damn, children aren't born having a complete idea of who they are. A lot of it is learned over time, usually through their environment and the people who are in their lives. Its ok to introduce your interests to your child, if they like it they like it, if they don't they don't. It will help them discover what kind of person they are.

>> No.10238626

No, it's not, you're looking to share an interest together.

My daughter is into girly clothing on and off. Before she cared about how I dressed I tried to dress her to match just a little bit. She went through a pants only phase and rejected every cute thing I bought her and even though it made me sad I just let it be. Now if I ever go out with lolita friends and take her with me, she will specifically ask if she can dress up and look like a princess. She likes to apply make-up with me too (I usually let her use a little blush and lip gloss). And we always say to each other, "now you're pretty with make-up" (because you were pretty to begin with, without makeup, lol).

Anyway, if she wants to you can make it happen! If not, we can't hold it against our kids.

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That was really cute to read, I am happy for both of you!

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>> No.10238722 [DELETED] 

>And we always say to each other, "now you're pretty with make-up" (because you were pretty to begin with, without makeup, lol).
D'aawww, thats friggin cute

>> No.10238810

Lately lacemarket has a lot of fucking pop up ads on mobile and it’s been pissing me the fuck off

>> No.10238820

Lolita sounds horribly impractical for children who just want to roam around and explore. It also attracts a lot of attention which might not be good for their development. Just get a doll.

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apologies for not scanning for a while, life has been kinda ass recently. here's glb volume 22, hopefully will scan some fruits in the next few days to make up for the wait. enjoy!

>> No.10238862

i don't even like kids but this sounds adorable. If it helps i think toalice sells some clothes in children's sizes.

>> No.10238889


I thought she lives by herself. Her apartment seems really tiny so it just makes her large collection sadder.

>> No.10238891

Thank you!

>> No.10238895

Holy shit they've really dropped low now

>> No.10238899

So what am I looking at here? Ribbons are different length on the original?

>> No.10238929

Ugh, same. It’s gotten completely unusable for me.
Does anyone know what to do (except „just use a computer“ duh)?

>> No.10238950

Use the mobile Ghostery browser, it blocks all ads.

>> No.10238951

Firefox + adblockplus

>> No.10238971

>all these deleted posts at once all over the board
Holy shit, it's really mostly one person who derails several threads with shit-stirring and infighting. Good job, jannies.

>> No.10238993

maybe I don't watch enough youtube but who is TB? Tello Batty?

>> No.10239096

Thank you for letting me know, I will be sure to check it out.

>> No.10239099 [DELETED] 

Jesus summer, lurkmoar

>> No.10239103

Do you support any kind of content producer focused on Lolita Fashion? How would you feel if this person were using your money to buy brand instead of stepping up her content?

>> No.10239104

A certain youtuber who made bad resolution wardrobe videos of items she doesn't wear.

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Bless you anon. I love when people post scans!

>> No.10239117

OK, just admit you don't know either. telling people to lurkmoar is ridiculous. I can't go back in time to be here when people were talking about it, and searching TB yields nothing or there wouldn't be a need to ask

>> No.10239120

Not familiar with this kind of stuff but wouldn't expanding their wardrobe contribute to more content? I assume their main focus would be showing off their cords.

>> No.10239129

I'm assuming Tallulah Bee/girlonsunday who cgl has had a hateboner since LJ days. Has a lot of brand but not only never wears them but also has a terrible hoarding problem; her organizing lolita fashion video gives me anxiety

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>> No.10239151

Can't she just lose some weight to fit into these dresses again?

>> No.10239212

Why are you asking us?

>> No.10239238

u ever heard of a rhetorical question or are u a literal autist

>> No.10239267


Maybe that's why she's hanging on to them, there's always the choice of losing weight and then being able to fit into the dresses.

I'm kind of in a similar boat, didn't realise I'd been stress eating and had gained weight. Half my wardrobe is now smaller than I can fit into, but that half has all the JetJ, Mary Magdalene, Moitie skirts and a couple of AP chocolate dresses. I really don't want to sell that half of the wardrobe, so I'm going to try and lose weight to fit back into them.

Though, I feel like she's been hoarding them for a while, I'm not sure if she's even actually making an effort to lose weight at this point.

>> No.10239318

New >>10239317

>> No.10239676

you could say that. ribbons completely obscure brand log embroidery on the rep. not cute and looks like ass.

>> No.10240507

I feel this. A year of stress eating and not having time for lolita due to trying to full-time work and study for a postgrad diploma has meant that none of my old-school fits. Thankfully it's only about 20% of my wardrobe and a lot of the rest is Meta, but it hurts to know that wearing them is at least 3 months away if I'm losing inches and weight the healthy way.

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