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Why would you start the general with a photo of a bunch of men anon? Really?
>>10196715Because men are usually better at dressing in Lolita.Anyway, so what's the next print we're going to scream about until it gets a re-release?Also; I'm about to get my first lavender label piece in the mail. What do you gulls thing of the emerging older or more "lady-like" Lolita look that Angelic pretty is playing with? I think it comes from some of their designers being over 40 now and they're experimenting with how to make the fashion for different age ranges.
>>10196731this bait, it is not good.
Have any of you bought Tulle vol. 5? Is it the only printed lolita magazine still on-going? I don't expect any new volumes from Melt, Eternita or Pannier.
Forgot Otome no Sewing still exists >>10196740
>>10196731Time to nuke and report this thread make a new one.
>>10196731>What do you gulls thing of the emerging older or more "lady-like" Lolita look that Angelic pretty is playing with? I think it comes from some of their designers being over 40 now and they're experimenting with how to make the fashion for different age ranges.Other brands exist outside of AP, anon. Classic lolita has been around for decades and has suited girls and women of a very wide age range. Please lurk and learn about the fashion more before posting.
>>10196731I think none of us really look at it that way because we aren't old faggot sissy troons trying to hide our fetishes in our ladylike petticoats? Just my thoughts though.
>>10196732No, it was never good to begin with. I could feel it deep within my soul as I hit 'post'... But I just... I had to. Satan made me do it.>>10196740 >>10196741Oh? There's a new Tulle? I guess it's time to place an order with Kinokuniya. As a side note, even if the sizing does not fit you, I would recommend any and all craft Lolitas collect the Otome no Sewing books. Even if you are using other patterns for your actual finished piece, it's good to have a more "direct" source to compare and modify your pattern pieces.>>10196742Give up on everything early, just like your dieting strategy.
>>10196747Nice ’lolita’ photo, granny troon. You know what to do with your recommendations too. Most of us craft lolitas make jewellery and accessories because we fit our clothes fine, thanks. They were made for us after all. We don't need ’dieting strategy’ either because we aren't not gross old men trying to wear ingenue clothing. Can you not see how extremely out of place all your references are here? Really awkward. You know, like you at meets! Oh right, I forgot, you don't actually go to lolita meets, you just daydream, shitpost here and wank in your frills. Got it straight now
>>10196755who hurt you
>>10196747You sound like a roleplayer.
>>10196757Sissy taking over the general? It gives me the butthurt.
>>10196758They are, its a sissy flexing in the general. Shut it down.
Unfucked General >>10196763
Has anyone found any good jewelry brands lately? I’ve been looking for something similar to automatic honey but I don’t want to dump cash on indie/etsy brands that might be shit quality upon arrival
>>10196755Sorry my flat/bad/awful humor is going over your head and that you've got some pent-up aggression without an appropriate outlet. I absolutely agree that a historical reference to woman's fashion being seen by men as comical is not a direct Lolita reference and I'm terribly sorry for assuming that crafting people might dabble in sewing.>>10196745Every meet-up I fear running into the 1-2 local sissies that have been posted here. Strangely they're always busy on the days I can attend meets. Originally I was relieved but eventually I was sadden that I could not have a chance to collect some creepy quotes to bring back to you for laughs.>>10196744I agree; Classic Lolita is really fitting for a wide variety of age groups. But I guess what I meant was that certain brands, most visibly in terms of advertising being AP, are messing around with keeping the basic silhouette but are dropping the frill count and adding length.
>>10196714>>10196742That’s ABCZ, a boy band that is a branch of the Johnny’s idol teams.Obviously they’re doing it for a variety show at least a little bit for laughs (anything LGBT is treated as such) but whoever styled them did the best with what they had, it’s not specifically for ageplay (especially not on national TV). The text in the upper-right even highlights that lolita fashion has become explosively popular now and abroad.Back on topic, now that it’s sweltering hot in the Northern hemisphere, I’m looking into slowly swapping my poly blouses and OPs with cotton ones, or at least cotton blends. Any brands that people recommend which don’t wrinkle like crazy?I got IW’s typewriter check OP which is comfy AF (the “other material polyester” listed in the materials, is just the collar and faux-button-down strip in front, sorry for my lack of sewing vocabulary), and the cotton is thin enough that it can line-dry and wrinkles are easy to get out with a travel steamer.I’m eying AtePie’s lineup of cotton OPs, but I’m not sure how the back shirring will dry on the line.
>>10196742All generals have been like this since the LWLN one, its time to accept it'll be like this for a while
>>10196772The variety show is about learning, yeah they do things for laughs but they don't make fun of the guests, in this case Misako.
>>10196747men love invading women's spaces and hobbies and then acting superior to them, don't they?
Is it me or does Atelier Boz release less new stuff than they used to? I mean actual new releases, not re-releases.
What about screaming to get a rerelease, how do you gulls think is that a good idea to start petitions as we did with HC? Idk if this made actual effect, but now the whole process seems a bit embarrassing.
>>10196792>weSpeak for yourself
This person is posting pictures from Fril. I believe they are a scammer
>>10196731I hope they’ll re-release Antoinette Decoration or Charlottes Bear. That blue that AP was into for a hot minute is my favorite
>>10196797Dat shitty looking replikumaDamn son
>>10196788Not all of them but good brolitas hate this kind of behavior even more because it makes it 10x as hard for them to just exist. I don't have a problem with brolitas who are in he fashion, its these guys that are the stink bugs in the flower garden. Sass of a sissy, mindset of the same old dude to, but usually here for their kink of trying to forcefully flex as a ’ fellow woman’Disgusting.>>10196714>>10196731>>10196747>>10196771
>>10196808sissies/bad brolitas are the worst because they hurt everyone. fellow brolitas, and they creep the fuck out of actual lolitas. I'm not going to lie though, I see this superiority complex a lot of brolitas have very often. I don't know why they want to educate women on something that was supposed to be empowering to us. It's annoying.
>>10196821I agree which is why threads like this are poison. I know 2 good brolitas. Aside from different fit and makeup issues, there is little that sets them apart from my other lolita friends. That's my litmus test for a good brolita, he is just another person trying to be a good lolita and to contribute nicely to the social part of group like the rest of us. It's very easy to tell the difference right away.
>>10196828>threads like thisThe general has been started with other images from the exact same show and it was fine. See >>10196774
>>10196869You don't see the posts in here where Troona McTwatwaffle keeps posting his creepy ’fellow wimmin’ stuff? Jeez. Never mind. We aren't down with it. We’ll be over here >>10196763
>>10196791Haven't they been rehashing things for years? Tbh I never buy from them so I just might not see the difference between their releases..
>>10196874Keep throwing attention at bait
>>10196769If you're looking for jewelry with enamel elements specifically, Puvithel does some, but otherwise there don't seem to be a lot of people doing those (and it's just like... a charm on a chain and that's boring)For resin there's a ton of good shops, and there's a ton who do acrylic charm ones, but with original art acrylics it's often the same just a charm on a string problem.If you're not looking for enamel in particular, I might be able to give you some better recommendations depending on the style you're looking for.
>>10196772Maxicimam has basic cotton blouses with detachable sleeves if you have a versatile style. They have some cutsews and camisoles in the sales section too. Make sure you look at the right category so you don't get huge sizes.
>>10196772Maxicimam has basic cotton blouses with detachable sleeves if you have a versatile style. They have some cutsew OPs and camisoles in the sales section too. Make sure you look at the right category so you don't get huge sizes.
I want to stay true to Lolita. Every time I spend a lot on dresses and such, I beat myself up and end up selling them. I go through this cycle of trying to dedicate myself to the fashion then “quitting” temporarily and just coming back to it months later. Help.
>>10196799that blue is the same blue used in Milky Planet
>>10196797Definitely is a scammer. My friend put in a request for that exact charlottes bear on fril but missed out a day or two ago.
>>10196968LM needs to do something with scammers. The lack of enforcement is causing a number of lolitas losing money. Buyers need to be wary of sellers with (+0,-0) feedback.
>>10196973Did you report her? I wonder how many mods lacemarket has. Maybe it takes takes a day to get things removed if the mods aren't online at different times.
>>10196714>>10196772Where can I watch this episode?
>>10196888Make your own elaborate chains for the cute charm pieces to hang off of. It's worth it.
What does this say? I can't use Google translate for images on my phone
>>10197566Shipping in Japan has become more expensive.
AP is opening a new store with a different customer experience at Shibuya Parco in November. They include ordering online at the store, AR/VR, and customer tracking of purchases.
Dumb question, but does the girlism web page ship to the us?
>>10196973 >>10197012Based on some personal run-ins with the LM mods, the feeling I got is there aren't enough to police what's going on and they're either prone to not act on inquires fast enough or they will make snap decisions because they don't have time to pick through all the details.One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of LM policies run counter to paypal's TOS. Now, what this means is that if you take care of a problem through paypal instead of LM, you might break one of their rules and then you'll be banned from LM, but going through paypal is the most definite route to getting your money back if you really think something is wrong.
>>10197802I was scammed once and reported it to the mods and used paypal for a refund. The mods eventually got back to me and banned the scammer. Nothing was done to me about my having gone through PayPal for recourse fwiw
>>10197805That's good to hear and that probably means the reasons you had and the method you used did not break any LM rules. LM and Paypal rules are not absolutely opposing, it's just that I found that there are differences you need to make sure you're aware of before you accidentally trip over them.In my case, paypal would allow me to get a full refund, whereas LM mods were encouraging me not to get a refund because the seller had private messaged me that she did not want to do a refund. Long after the event, talking to small merchants at cons, everyone said that they thought in my case it would have made total sense just to go through paypal and not try to negotiate through LM mods.
>>10197788>AR/VRNever heard of this. I looked it up and I'm confused about what's so great about it? Do Japanese people want this?
>>10197814A Japanese girl I follow on Twitter was complaining about it. She was like what's the point of there aren't any products? It's hard to say what they all think.
Guess we are forced to finish out this sissy faggot-cursed General until it sages. Oh janitors. Y u like that?
>>10197885Because 4chan is filled with TIMs
>>10197888Jfc, I had to use the Googles. I cant even keep up with these snowflake acronyms anymore, even if I had a crumb of desire to. I give up, I'm not even gonna try.
>>10197885Jannies delete almost everything that gets reported, Sissy-rp anon was probably butthurt. Just spam this general with mana pics or something, so we get it over with.
>>10197892>TIM>snowflake acronymTIM confirmed
>>10197888The bright side is this though: these dudes creeping around in RL comms is causing more places to form private groups. And if we are not inviting these guys, we also can pretty easily exclude the perma-itas and other undesirables too. Dumb and blind inclusivity is finally faltering. Thank goodness!
Jesus fucking christ, the jannies deleted the more popular thread that actually had clothing discussion instead of rants about sissies? Why??
>>10197894MtF and FtM was fine for a long time but oh now its TIM and TIF? I'd say that qualifies as a snowflake situation.
>>10197814It's a dumb game headset you wear to look at stuff, I guess? Techy marketing gadget, nothing great for the fashion.
>>10197893I hate this janny decision so much that i'm going to try to do this.
>>10197885It was fine until you brought it back up. Stop feeding trolls and maybe one day you'll be free of them.
>>10197900Rurus. No 2 generals allowed. So this one will be shit the whole day or till we finish it but at least the sissy had piped down so that's something I guess?
>>10197902It's making fun of them for being LARPing men. it's the complete opposite of a snowflake acronym you tard
>>10197905Bless you anon
>>10197885>>10197900This thread was fine, but you brought it back up. Stop feeding trolls and maybe one day you'll be free of them. Btw the other general also had sissy bait but I ignored and reported it, so it got deleted.
>>10197814Just tech companies trying to sell things nobody asked for and shoving the Internet of Things down our throats
>>10197902TIM and TIF are perfectly fine descriptors for you trannies
You guys are retarded and don't deserve a general
I miss this style of Aristo for women. Did it have another name?
>>10197918Hush, no salt, just Mana.
>>10197921I really want to get into aristo. My friend looks fantastic in it and I want to emulate her, but I feel like I'd look like a squat blob.
>>10197922Reply to the on-topic posts and stop letting one sissy troll control your life
>>10197916Fuck I love this one. I much prefer photos where mana isn't so overexposed that we can't see dress details or even a nose.
>>10197925How is admiring the splendor of our lord Mana Sama not an on topic post?>>10197928Same desu, but the kitsch of overexposed photos is kind of giving me major nostalgia.
>>10197922Perfection. I never tire of these photos.
>>10197929I love this one but god those flowers are like dollar store grade fake.
>>10197018I tried to find it too, seems it aired on the 23th of June 2018. A boy group fan blogged about it here: http://piggy-sakura.blogspot.com/2018/09/da-serie-quando-brincar-de-crossdresser.html?m=1And Misako talked about it here: https://lineblog.me/aokimisako/archives/9336582.htmlI haven't taken the time to look for a stream yet.
>>10197941It's not quite lolita but I mean it's Mana on a swing.
I've never seen someone be this upset about her thread getting deleted
Trannies will never be as loved as Mana and that hurts their fragile lady egos
>>10197951I adore gothic that's overflowing in tulle.
>>10197955Welp I have to go but this was fun. Has anyone gotten Silent Moon yet? How's the print?
>>10197959We really need a goth thread. I would but I'm a sweetfag who's only just getting into goth so I don't have a ton of pics saved
>>10197962Neither does the person you're replying to. We've seen those Mana pics a million times.
>>10197947Funny story? I'm the one who made the other general but I'm not the one posting the most Mana-sama. We just want it dead. It's really insulting to have someone like the op of this thread come directly to our place with his fetish rp and hijack our space like some troon cuckoo bird.
>>10197963Post your mana folder anon. Do it. I know you want to. I only have one for The Queen.
>>10197967OP's pic is from a variety show with Misako. The person upthread left ages ago. I used all 3 generals but someone keeps bringing up sissy's and you named 2 generals after sissy's. You are literally rewarding bait.
>>10197937I'm still mad at missing out on this OP and the superior red colorway.>>10197976>The person upthread left ages ago.This thread isn't even 2 days old.
>>10197982Stop taking bait from 2 days ago is my point
I'm sad. I'm a lolita and a gull and I don't want to be aligned with people who are (ironically) so narrowminded about gender.Becaused I'm so tall and broad for a cis female, I grew up often being denied femininity. It was tough as a pre-teen but I got more used to it in high school. Anyway, discovering classic lolita in my early twenties opened up a whole world of gender performance that I always wanted to dabble in. Feminine, maidenly, dripping in careful and expensive details...I believe every person who genuinely loves the fashion and puts in the work should be able to participate. the language used itt is so gross. I know a lot of us have the 'tism, myself probably included, but is the reliance on schema so important that you can't fucking train yourself to not only tell the difference, but allow for a difference between disgusting predator fetishists and actual lolitas who grew up presenting only in masculine fashion?am I wasting my breath on summer?
>>10197986Are you lost? https://www.tumblr.com/
>>10197986Nice rp ya TIM
>>10197996I know I should not love this as much as I do but honestly, yes, I just do.
>>10197892TIM is actually an anti snowflake acronym, it's calling these people what they are, men.
>>10198009Seems I got misguided on reddit somehow. I’m really sick of the trans rights debate in places it doesn’t belong anyway. They can legislate it to the death and there will always women will still gatekeep our spaces against men of any kind. Forever.
>>10197959just got my shipping notif, hoping it’ll be here by the end of the week!
>>10197986Yes, because the vast majority here won’t even personally hate on a good brolita. But there are damn few of them and a ton of assholes otherwise.
Why so much autism again? OP image is of good coordinates, is there some story I'm missing or is the one/two posters mentioning their hatefor sissies in every active thread just trolling?
>>10198051you might want to read the thread before posting, friend
>>10198026>ywn bake pancakes with manawhy live
>>10198051Jfc Sissies in the lolita comms and spaces are are people acting out their fetishes on the comm at large with absolutely no consent. What part of predatory non consensual behavior of a male to a group of females do you not comprehend? To put it in context, we are the exact same way with females in ddlg rp within our space so it’s not about any gender it’s about non consensual behavior.
Has anyone bought main pieces from Surface Spell before? I don't see many reviews to know a general consensus of their quality
>>10198048Pray for our patience holy Mana-sama and please bless the next thread with a blissful autism-free general that is actually about the topic without any mention of gender at all. In the holy name of snoopy-kun and blue roses, Amen.
>>10198073three hail-manas a day keeps the tranny bait away
>>10198066I can’t tell if you are a troll or an idiot, anon. A quick google shows me review after review. You won’t see as any reviews for taobao brands as Japanese brands ever but they are out there. If I remember correctly SS is one of the hit miss ones that sometimes is really amazing but when they aren’t, they kind of suck because of cheapness. Also iirc, something about either sizing being off or they take longer than they should. Numbers on a page and embroidered velveteen are all that pops to my mind at the mention of SS.
>>10198062>>10198055I did read it, and it's not coming off nearly as sissy fetisistic as you keep harping on.Reminder: sissies get off on the humiliation of what their wearing, that doesn't appear to be the case here, so you'll have to provide more context. All in all, it really just looks like you're lambasting a brolita with a shit sense of humor.
>>10198004try me, motherfucker. ama about this fashion and I will respond (before I leave work in 1 hr).been in it for 5 years now. am ready for your summer ass to grill me.
>>10198090W e w
>>10198087Sissies also get off on trying to be accepted as girly along with the girly girls while subtly hinting at how restrictive being girly is in a passive aggressive way and oh teehee the trials of womanhood, basically making a mockery of our entire gender as something they can wear like a fucking ratty wig at their pleasure. Gauche and graceless Just like a man who openly hates women would but with less balls to be direct. Nope. Not buying it. Not here, not in our comms in real life.
>>10197892TIM is the term that "terfs" (AKA reasonable people who call out trans nonsense) use for so-called transwomen. It labels them as what the really are, men who call themselves trans. Clearly you didn't read too much into it if you still think this is "snowflake nonsense"
>>10198004Tumblr died for a reason anon, I know you had nowhere else to go, but save the tumblr acronyms for facebook.
>>10198099You are right, mea culpa. I’m short tempered about this nonsense and I assumed too quickly they had made up yet another language tango trying to insert themselves into women’s space. My mistake. I have no patience left for them under any name and have reached the point of ‘no more words, just get and keep them away from me’ .
>>10198099I'll let it go, I don't see it but that doesn't mean anything.
I want to sue whoever did his makeup
>>10198087I think the person who keeps bringing up sissy's and tranny's is the one with a fetish. That person obviously wants us to keep talking about that instead of moving on with the thread normally (which is what was happening here before that person came back when the other general was deleted).
>>10198119No, talking about trannies and sissies and voicing your complains about them does not make you a fetishist.
>>10198090You don’t need to prove anything, we already see you for the macho ma’am that you are
>>10198124You keep talking about them even though >>10196747 hasn't been posting since another general was made. You only came back to shit up this thread after that me general was deleted. Why?
>>10198124You keep talking about sissy's even though >>10196747 hasn't been posting since another general was made. You only came back to shit up this thread after that new general was deleted. Why? Maybe you would make a separate thread where you can keep talking about sissy's and transsexuals.
>>10198135>YouThere are 41 posters in this thread and some of them disagree with your opinion.
>>10198138Yeah, there are posters trying to talk about lolita normally and you and some other butthurt person keep spamming Mana, sissy and terf stuff
>>10198129Macho ma’am, my sides! OMG that made me smile, thanks anon! Thanks people for all the beautiful Mana images! The next thread will be better, images nearly at the bump limit of 100 here and then we can make a new thread?
>>10198142We can not make a new thread until this one is in autosage retard
>>10198119 >>10198124Maybe not a fetishist, but they've got some kind of hangup. I make one gab at them while suggesting they've got a hangup and now suddenly we need multiple generals and we have to keep totally not bringing it up.Either way, thanks anons for all the Mana. I'm not into gothic, so I usually don't seek out his stuff, but in this thread I've seen a few pieces I didn't know exist and I really like 'em.(i promise to go away for the rest of the day now... I would rather like everything to return to normal)
>>10198140You are replying to more than 2 people. Please lurk more.
>>10198140Look at those photos. In many of them Mana-sama is clearly sad that you are so pig headed and stupid.
>>10198145>>10198119You're obviously a tranny. GTFO and stop trying to insinuate that lolitas who hate you actually have the fetish.
>>10198142Image limit is 150 but yeah, that's the plan.>>10198144Yes we can. It happened several times in the past.
Serious question, why do people hate this general? Is it because of the boy band? I've started generals with crossdressers before and nobody got butthurt about it. Maybe because they were visual kei instead of jpop..?
>>10198129sorry I don't blanket-hate every guy or amab in this fashion.still hoping to find my lolita bf to form a power lolita couple with.>>10198154because the third post's failed sense of humor triggered every TERF within a 200 interweb-mi radius.
>>10198144We can absolutely make a new thread once the image limit is reached. Read the rules dumbshit. Or have you forgotten it’s an IMAGEboard?
>>10198160And you will not ruin that thread by bringing up sissy's again or naming the thread after them again?
>>10198163Anon please this is an anonymous board, you're replying to several people, not everyone you're talking to is the same person.
>>10198154For me it was the really gross ‘greetings fellow frillies, let us discuss the woman things together’ vibe. Blech. I know a couple of amazing brokitas and never have I ever gotten that vibe from either of them. Same with my many cross dressing friends of such a mixed bag of gender it would make ones head spin. Only sissy fetish people try to pull this crap. And I’m so over it. Take it out of the fashion and our comms. It will never be welcome. There. Now you know.
How do you become a member of btssb?
>>10198157Neither do I tranny. I just hate the ones with serious delusions, such as yourself.
>>10198179kek, why did they choose this location???
>>10198171Sacrifice Milky Chan’s heart to the flames on a moonless night and fill your AP tea parties with nettles and leave them in the forest. Don't look behind you. We will contact you before the next moon is full with further communication. Do not fail us.
Not gonna lie this is making me kind of dislike Mana. I never realised how basic his style was before.
>>10198184Buying from AP to join btssb's presale doesn't seem worth it
>>10198184Eggsdee I understand those references x3 so random!!!!
>>10198181to prove mana can look elegant literally everywhere and at every time
>>10198189No fun allowed
>>10198191I think it’s sad you think acting like a retard is fun
>>10198187Nofunallowed.jpgOk fine sourpuss, you have to translate the the jp site and you just fill out the info form for the US site, both when you check out. I don't think you can just register and make an account till you check out and buy something. I don't honestly remember because my account is old, but I recall people bitching about that.
>>10198194Imo the retard is the one ironically shitposting to an innocent joke. Take it easy anon.
>>10197911I reported posts in there too, Idk why people don't do that in this thread instead of spamming for several hours.
Man I just want to talk about EGL
Y'all are autistic.
>>10197861There won't be any products? Wtf?
>>10198203So post a worthy topic, please?
>>10198213I think there are testing virtual reality shopping and its just hype. But I think it will be interesting to see and anything positive that is getting the fashion mentioned can't be all bad, right?
>>10198220But.. What is the point? How is this getting the fashion mentioned?
>>10198197Oh, for some reason I thought being a member meant more than just having an account for the webshop.
>>10198225Every brand at some point jumps on a new technology and when they do, there is some crossover into the audiences for that technology thereby exposing the thing bring sold to audiences that they might not otherwise reach. Plus the brand hits the general news outlets due to using the new technology because people report about it. These are basic marketing concepts?
>>10198237Jeez, this is awful. Why cant they at least style them somewhat decently? Parody is bad folks.
>>10198248I think Misako styled them...
>>10198240what the fuck is happening with his wig
>>10198237He cute but all I can hear are terrible jokes and men hovering over women the entire time. God I hat variety shows.
>>10198235Go watch the video for Illuminati
>>10198237>>10198240>>10198243Oh honey, I can totally see that you are so lost! This is the general, where we talk of things of general interest to all as a whole. Crossdressing is a very tiny niche interest and it doesn't belong in the general! Let me give you some help to find the right place to post these, because there's indeed a thread for them! >>10145473
>>10198265aaaand finally done
>>10198268Well done! New thread now? Yay!
>>10198263it's the seething OP
>>10198239I didn't realise it was that new and groundbreaking it would be discussed in the news
>>10198248>>10198252Misako definitely styled them
>>10198237>>10198240These could make for good reaction images
>>10198299Not really, a good lolita meme is rooted in a fashion standard then something irreverent added to it. Not try hard fringe shit attempting relevance. Forcing that into a meme doesn't often work because it alienates on first glance rather than creating common ground. It's uncomfy and try-hard. Most people don't see ’hehe reaction’, they see ’ew, dude in a dress, just...why?’
new thread >>10198339
>>10198329I see something related to my fandom, even though it's a no1curr group.
>>10198268Good work anon.