Things that annoy you about the anime/con scene

[Anonymous No.10172224]

Post things that annoy you about the current anime/con scene

I'll start:
So many goddamn restrictions these days about what you can/can't cosplay. I understand stuff like "no you can't bring that massive prop into the crowded hall" and "no you can't be naked at this all-ages event", but these days you can barely have a weapon prop of any kind (my local con has banned all guns, even obvious toy guns with orange tips), and cons are banning stuff they find personally offensive all over the place (see the recent Tanya debacle at Anime NYC). It's really starting to suck the creativity out of things.

[Anonymous No.10172232]

Boohoo.

[Anonymous No.10172237]

>>10172224
Its not like people are being shot left and right everywhere in the world but go off I guess

[Anonymous No.10172240]

>>10172237
You have to go through security anyway, and this is in a country where it's fairly hard to get a real gun in the first place.

[Anonymous No.10172264]

>>10172240
Ehhhh not really. If you’re talking about America it’s actually fairly easy. Have you ever been to a gun show? And even then, security needs to be in place at any type of large social gathering. It would be the perfect storm if a malicious person wanted to cause harm.

[Anonymous No.10172268]

>>10172224
If being creative to you only has to do with overly offensive shit and weapons then you kind of suck lol

Obviously people have dark senses of humor, but there’s a time and a place for that stuff.

[Anonymous No.10172286]

>>10172264
I'm not talking about the USA.

>>10172268
But what then counts as "overly offensive shit"?

To use the Anime NYC issue as an example, they banned all Youjo Senki cosplays while screening the movie at the con. Usually it's considered good fun to cosplay a character from the movie you're going to watch at the con. And how is it "overly offensive" in the first place? They placed it under the "no nazi cosplays" ban, but Youjo Senki is set in a fictional WW1 universe. There are no nazis. The uniforms resemble WW1 uniforms. There is a difference between "no swastikas" (perfectly reasonable) and "no characters from this anime that evokes WW1 germany".

As far as the weapons goes, there are plenty of characters with very recognizable guns. Homura and Mami from Madoka? Vash from Trigun? Jade Harley from Homestuck? Even Deadpool. Are people expected to cosplay these characters without their recognizable props from now on?

[Anonymous No.10172289]

>>10172286
You should have specified your country then. If someone wants to get a gun to hurt people they will find a way, and if all they have to do is paint an orange tip on it or hide it somewhere they can cause so much damage.

I’m grateful that security is being hightened. Imagine if a shooting or bombing happened at a huge con, it would be absolutely devastating.

[Anonymous No.10172290]

>>10172268
>I’m dressing up like a retard for an adult Halloween party in July now let me tell you what’s going too far

That’s dumb, if people are getting offended by your play pretend costumes that seems like a failing on their part.

[Anonymous No.10172295]

>>10172286

> Are people expected to cosplay these characters without their recognizable props from now on?

People cosplay without their props anyway. A prop is not always necessary. And as long as people are getting shot up around the world security is gonna tighten about those kinds of things. That’s just how it is. Personally I don’t like it either but you gotta realize why people are so anxious about this stuff.

Also all of those characters you named are completely recogniable by themselves without their props so that’s a weak argument

[Anonymous No.10172297]

>>10172289
I'm sorry you expect everyone on the internet to be from the USA.

If someone wanted to shoot or bomb a con, I can guarantee you they would not use a cosplay weapon to do it. Security can tell a real gun in about five seconds because it'll be much heavier than a prop. If someone has a magical gun that's light enough to pass that test they could manage to kill or wound maybe two or three people at most because it wouldn't be able to hold much ammo.

You could do the same amount of damage with a frying pan, do we ban rapunzel cosplays?

[Anonymous No.10172298]

>>10172290
You realize what board you’re on right lol

[Anonymous No.10172300]

i hate ugly creepy men at cons i want them dead

[Anonymous No.10172301]

>>10172295
It takes a lot of fun out of posing for photoshoots or staging mock battles though. And for what? If someone really wanted to shoot up a con they would find a better way to do it.

[Anonymous No.10172307]

>>10172297
>You could do the same amount of damage with a frying pan, do we ban rapunzel cosplays?

Imagine comparing a gun to a frying pan.

[Anonymous No.10172308]

>>10172307
Imagine not reading my post

[Anonymous No.10172311]

>>10172301
Guess what you can do though? You can do this really cool thing called having a photoshoot offsite

I know it’s a foreign concept, but you can pack up your props and take pics later!!! Wow, who would’ve thought.

[Anonymous No.10172313]

>>10172298
Yeah but cosplaying and being immature don’t have to overlap so thoroughly that you’re asking for fictional shit that rustles your jimmies to be banned. I’d understand if it’s an all ages con banning physical obscenity, but “this looks like a Nazi” sounds like a stupid call for restriction. Your average cosplayer and a literal Nazi are separated in existence by 50 years. It’s a non-entity to feel offended by.

[Anonymous No.10172315]

>>10172308
Imagine thinking you know exactly what every single shooter would do in this scenario.
Imagine thinking only a few people would be hurt or even killed.
Imagine thinking blunt force is the same as a bullet ripping through flesh and bone and possibly killing you faster.

Imagine that!!

[Anonymous No.10172320]

>>10172311
Then why bother going to the con in cosplay in the first place?

Back in the day, people could have fun impromptu shoots with people they met at the con. Now you have to take the extra steps to plan offsite stuff. It really does suck the fun and spontaneity out of things.

[Anonymous No.10172323]

>>10172313
Unfortunately cosplay and they SJW community overlap too much and that’s why there’s rules as to who you can cosplay and how you can cosplay them

I don’t agree with that stuff but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.10172324]

>>10172320
Offsite stuff doesn’t have to be that far away.

If you don’t agree with the rules of a convention why bother even going to that con in the first place? Nobody is forcing you to go and support that con. If you don’t agree with the rules of a con you have the freedom to not go

[Anonymous No.10172326]

>>10172315
Yeah, blunt force would hurt worse, you stupid bint.

No one is getting a real loaded gun that can do significant damage dressed up as a cosplay weapon through security, unless that security is beyond incompetent. And if that's the case, you have much bigger problems to worry about because it is much easier to get a concealed weapon through than one in plain sight that has to be checked.

[Anonymous No.10172329]

>>10172326
Good to know you’re ignoring my whole argument.

Security SHOULD be heightened. So that people can’t get guns in there in the first place.

However if someone really wanted to do damage they would find a way like shooters have in the past. I would name someone specific but the list is way too fucking long, and that alone speaks volumes to how much this happens.

[Anonymous No.10172332]

>>10172324
There are two regular conventions in my country. This one is by far the largest. So my options are to go to a con that limits my choices and takes the fun out of things, or not go at all.

Can I live with this? Yes.
Does it annoy me (the entire point of this thread)? Yes.

[Anonymous No.10172333]

>>10172329
You're right, I clearly don't understand your argument at all. How does banning prop guns heighten security?

[Anonymous No.10172339]

>>10172329
I think licensed holders should be able to keep their guns on them desu. I remember that one lady who was interviewed after iirc one of her loved ones was killed by a stalker and she left her gun in the parking lot because it was a nogunz establishment.

The sad truth is that anyone beyond base level sperg would be able to execute a massacre at a con if they really felt like it regardless of security measures. The thing separating any congoer from disaster is the fact that most people aren’t actually evil, and the ones that are typically have better stuff to do than bully cosplayers after high school.

[Anonymous No.10172344]

>>10172315
Teenagers who go on moral crusades about topics they don't fully understand and type/speak like this are definitely something that annoys me about the current anime scene.

[Anonymous No.10172350]

>>10172224
The... 'commercialization' I'll call it, of cosplay annoys me. Or maybe the 'professionalization' is a better word. I like that techniques are improving and that there are some incredible craftsmen and women out there, don't get me wrong, but most people don't have the time or the budget to put into a costume. It does get disheartening when you just want to dress up and have fun but you're being compared with people who literally do this for a living.

The makeup expectations annoy me too. I don't want to spend hundreds of dollars on products I'll use three times a year at most. I know it will help me look better in photos etc, but there was a time when EVERYONE looked shitty and shiny in pictures so it wasn't an issue.

Yeah yeah, it's petty.

[Anonymous No.10172354]

>>10172350
Petty complaints are what this thread is for.

There can be reasonable explanations for why things are like they are, but you can still feel annoyed about them.

[Anonymous No.10172372]

>>10172333
You’re only proving my point.

‘Security’ doesn’t just mean banning prop guns. It’s inspecing props and making sure people aren’t carrying real weapons.

Of course someone could use a frying pan to inflict damage but a gun is far worse in terms of intensity and with social media.

[Anonymous No.10172374]

>>10172372
So are you saying prop guns should be banned or not?

Because prop weapons were already inspected in my country. Then we had one mass shooting (by a foreigner) and suddenly we aren't allowed prop guns of any kind. They'd do better to inspect passports and ban Australians.

[Anonymous No.10172386]

>>10172374
New Zealand had garbage gun laws already. I read be arms code after the shooting and you assholes didn’t even legally allow guns for self defense. You were asking to get screwed over by s lunatic, hopefully the silver lining is you learned an armed society is a polite society.

[Anonymous No.10172390]

>>10172386
Bruh I don't care about your american gun politics. I want to cosplay Homura at a convention and that's all.

[Anonymous No.10172392]

>>10172390
Your native gun politics is why you can’t, though.

[Anonymous No.10172393]

>>10172224

Ah, you saw that thread on /pol/ then

[Anonymous No.10172397]

>>10172372

>Of course someone could use a frying pan to inflict damage but a gun is far worse in terms of intensity and with social media.

[Anonymous No.10172400]

>>10172392
If anything our native gun policies should make it easier to allow prop guns safely. It's hard to get a gun license here, and that mostly for hunting, so the odds of having a real handgun are tiny.

[Anonymous No.10172416]

>>10172400
But when you do have a gun slip through, or someone strolls in win their rifle, everyone is fucked, the police don’t have the training or resources to handle an active shooter, and the law failed in its deterrent intent.

[Anonymous No.10172418]

>>10172416
He was stopped by a couple of trainee police. The police can actually handle active shooters here.

Your laws also apparently fail in their deterrent intent because you have a mass shooting every month.

[Anonymous No.10172420]

Things that annoy me about the current anime/con scene:

People like all of you, holy shit

[Anonymous No.10172426]

>>10172418
Congrats on your police for stopping an exposed shooter THAT WANTED TO BE TAKEN ALIVE in broad daylight 30 minutes after the fact. At least our comparable incidents took place from an elevated concealed position and amidst an enclosed crowd, and both among people who had every intent of dying with their victims.

[Anonymous No.10172454]

>>(see the recent Tanya debacle at Anime NYC)
Any info on this or is this in all in the Anime NYC thread?

[Anonymous No.10172463]

> This entire thread

[Anonymous No.10172465]

>>10172297
>You could do the same amount of damage with a frying pan, do we ban rapunzel cosplays?
Back in my days of cosplaying Hetalia, yes. Frying pans were banned.

[Anonymous No.10172480]

>>10172372

If someone wants to shoot up an event they aren't going to sneak in, they will just come through the front and start mowing.

Censorship is the real issue here and stifling everyone's freedom over safety is ridiculous. If there is that much of a concern over it then have the police attend the event in uniform.

Punishing everyone for what one or two crazies do is stupid. Banning certain cosplay in the US is absolutely ridiculous and should not be tolerated. If stuff like this continues conventions will turn into no cosplay at all.

>>10172264
Usually state police attend gun shows. Gun shows have very little problems though since the community as a whole are very responsible. I would love to see someone try to shoot up a gun show. It would be the guy who tries to rob the gun store on steroids.

[Anonymous No.10172508]

>>10172224
>>10172454
I agree I wanna know more about this

[Anonymous No.10172535]

>>10172508
>con airs YS movie
>con also explicitly bans YS cosplay
>people call hyocrisy

[Anonymous No.10172540]

>allow women to have a say
>they ban anything they find offensive even if their rationale is purely illogical and incoherent
I am shocked!

Who could have seen this coming?!

[Anonymous No.10172546]

>>10172315
Imagine being so scared of something that has a very low chance of happening, that you have to ruin the fun of other people

[Anonymous No.10172554]

>>10172237
You're right. They absolutely aren't

[Anonymous No.10172555]

>>10172224
Waaaah I can't cosplay nazis anymore I'm so oppressed

[Anonymous No.10172556]

>>10172555
>someone dressed up as a Nazi loli gosh us negroes are literally being holocausted give me more free stuff
LOL I wish I could post laughing emojis

[Anonymous No.10172564]

>>10172555
There's hardly anyone out there who would complain about not being able to dress up as a literal nazi or depict a swastika on a costume, and the ones that would aren't worth listening to. But the way the rules are currently defined are way too broad and are impacting people who just want to cosplay their favorite characters.

I mean, how would you define "no fascist cosplays"? What separates Red Skull (explicitly stated to be banned) from Cobra Commander? What about Star Wars stormtroopers? Should we ban all Empire and especially First Order cosplays then? Disney literally has them as official park mascots. If you can't cosplay from Youjo Senki, can you cosplay any of the German characters from Wonder Woman? Presumably you could still cosplay Patrick Morgan even though he's the true villain of the movie.

Can you cosplay Sanya from Strike Witches, but not Erica? What about the main (Japanese) character? Kuromorimine and Anzio are out for Girls und Panzer, but not Pravda or Saunders? Where does that leave Ooarai? Can you cosplay /anyone/ from KanColle? What about Arpeggio or Haifuri where the WW2 connection is more distant?

Are we to start banning everything someone could find offensive? You can't cosplay any of the Axis characters from Hetalia, but England's history is much bloodier and hurt people around the world. What about Russia's current stance on LGBT rights? Belgium's colonial past? Every country has a dark history, do we ban Hetalia cosplays full stop?

What about other things people deem problematic? The author of SnK is openly fascist, do we ban all Survey Corps cosplays? Endeavor from Boku no Hero is an abusive parent and Bakugou tried to get the MC to kill himself, do we ban them? Do we ban Boku no Hero cosplay altogether because of the author's attitude toward his female characters?

Where does it end? Aside from banning widely recognized offensive symbols like the swastika, banning "offensive" cosplay very quickly becomes stifling.

[Anonymous No.10172565]

>>10172564
>wahhh I cant role play as a Nazi stormtrooper who wants to kill innocent people

[Anonymous No.10172569]

>>10172565
So does Disney have official Nazis on property?

[Anonymous No.10172571]

>>10172565
You wait until they ban Steven Universe and Voltron because they're problematic

[Anonymous No.10172580]

>>10172565
Ummm actually sweetie tanya is important trans representation and calling her a nazi is super duper problematic and you should probably think about peeing your pants

[Anonymous No.10172600]

>>10172565
>Cosplaying as a "Bash the Fash!" commie character is OK though, even though Communism killed 100 Million from 1900-2000 as opposed to Facisms 28 Million from 1900-2000

How bout we just not ban things, hmmmmmmm?

[Anonymous No.10172604]

>>10172600
Never mind Communism, Colonialism killed even more than that. We should ban all characters of European, American, Japanese, or Chinese background.

>tfw there's probably still other colonialist powers I'm forgetting

[Anonymous No.10172607]

>>10172604
How do you even quantify colonial deaths? And you can’t count plagues affecting Native Americans because a purely diplomatic mission would have carried the exact same smallpox.

[Anonymous No.10172613]

>>10172607
War, rape, forced marches, forcefully implementing foreign law or religion, introduction of addictive substances and other destructive influences, destruction of traditional ways of life, removal of land, removal of resources, etc.

Would be hard to quantify exactly though, I agree. I think the war deaths and deaths through stuff like the trail of tears are the easiest to quantify.

[Anonymous No.10172616]

>>10172604
Dont forget Mongolia. We have to ban anything referencing Mongolia and their colonizing, genociding activities.

And black gang crime. We should just ban all African American characters.

In each, the Japanese were axis members all along and anime was started by them so I don't think we should allow any Japanese displays.

Don't get me started on something referencing the top 3 religions and the suffering caused there.

Look, the only thing you should be allowed to dress up as is a Disney(tm)-era Jedi

[Anonymous No.10172620]

>>10172616
Dressing up as a Disney character? In 2019? Are you out of your mind???

Really the only thing we should allow is She-Ra cosplays (the new series of course!). But your skin tone better be exactly the shade of or darker than the character you're cosplaying, and you'd better be exactly the size of or fatter than the character you're cosplaying, or else you're a violent fascist!

[Anonymous No.10172623]

>>10172620
You don't think we should allow Steven Universe?

[Anonymous No.10172624]

>>10172623
(Unironically) Too problematic. All those problematic depictions of genocidal lesbians.

[Anonymous No.10172627]

>>10172620
>She-Ra
We need to have members of the LGBTQPPIA community give their input as to whether this is problematic and non-inclusive

[Anonymous No.10172629]

>>10172627
Hmmm I dunno (bisexual, pagan, over 18 (minors don't interact if you're not comfortable!), she/her pronouns please), there are some pretty abusive dynamics happening in there. Could be considered problematic representation, better ban it to make sure.

[Anonymous No.10172636]

>>10172339
This. I red team a lot and if you just look around you'll find plenty of security holes at your local convention. I've brought plenty of weapons into conventions with barely any effort. Remember, your first line security depends solely on some guy who is getting paid minimum wage and doesn't give a fuck about anyone but himself when it comes down to it. That's including bag check/metal detectors. Nevermind if the attacker decides to just not go through security all the people who are outside have no defenses. Con security is pure theater and anyone who thinks it keeps them safe is being naive at best. The ones who get caught weren't actually trying to kill or they would have kept their mouths shut.

[Anonymous No.10172638]

>>10172620
Nu She-Ra is probably unironically banned in Russia.

What current moral crusade banfags seem to forget is that there are people would love to ban things they like as well. The only solution is to protect freedom of expression as much as possible.

[Anonymous No.10172642]

>>10172638
>muh freedumbs
Hate speech isn't free speech

[Anonymous No.10172643]

>>10172642
Banning swastikas and nazi salutes is banning hate speech.

Banning WW1 uniforms is not.

[Anonymous No.10172665]

>>10172642
>Hate speech isn't free speech
un ironically a complete retard

[Anonymous No.10172672]

>>10172665
Bigot.

Why should hateful homosexuals be allowed to just go outside and offend religious peoope so openly? That kind of hateful behaviour is unacceptable in a progressive society!

[Anonymous No.10172675]

>>10172672

[Anonymous No.10172747]

>>10172224
>So many goddamn restrictions these days about what you can/can't cosplay.
Such as?

[Anonymous No.10172785]

>>10172224
Obese women in skin tight cosplays.

[Anonymous No.10172786]

>>10172555
>Muh Nazis
Gargle a thousand cocks.

[Anonymous No.10172865]

May not be specific to current, but a con I went to this weekend made the Twister tournament 18+, wtf, what's the point.
And in general, age separating and age exclusive stuff is a new thing in my region that wasn't before, and I don't like it. I think that people should be able to experience everything with friends they make at a con, and in general I like the thought of equality inside a con, where everyone are equal without higher or lower classes enforced by the con.

[Anonymous No.10172869]

>>10172865
I mean sometimes adult attendees want to do things without kids around. Twister is the kind of game you can either play really safe, or turn into some mildly raunchy fun depending on the audience. I can totally understand why they'd hold an 18+ tournament (and you will one day too, kiddo).

That said, they probably should have had another all-ages tournament as well.

[Anonymous No.10172891]

>>10172264

I hope you're not invoking the "Gun Show Loophole" here, that point has been debunked countless times

Obviously the guy is a massive stooge but give credit to Steven Crowder to traveling to gun shows across the nation to capture footage of himself being denied firearms for the sake of showing this just isn't true

[Anonymous No.10172894]

>>10172642

it literally is

It's totally my right to call you kike, and you cannot do shit about it faggot

[Anonymous No.10172911]

>>10172286
>Hetalia exists for a solid decade
>German army cosplays a-ok
>Youjo Senki comes out
>All german army cosplays banned
Why are people in charge always this stupid? It's really unfortunate that they'd ban WWI uniforms because they're cool as shit.

Also for the people arguing about guns:
Since I turned 21, I've brought a real, babby-killing firearm into every con I've attended and I'll let you guess how many people were injured or killed. Con security is a joke and "realistic weapons" bans are only in place to prevent hurt feelings, not to keep anybody safe. If you actually want to feel safe at a convention it'd be better to have as many CCW holders as possible in attendance than to outright ban anything that even looks like a drawing of a gun. Anybody who's willing to do you harm will find a way to carry it out, security be damned.

[Anonymous No.10172957]

>>10172642
In the USA, the First Amendment protects even hate speech. The only speech banned is speech that insights violence or is defamatory. ie: threats against ones life. If someone calls you a dumb cunt faggot, that is protected. However, that person is probably an asshole or you were really being a dumb cunt.

[Anonymous No.10173015]

>>10172911
What you must understand is that Hetalia was big in the Obama era, which made it fun and edgy. Youjo Senki is too close to the government values of the Trump era, therefore the fun and edgy thing is to ban it instead.

The nerd must always always rebel against the establishment or risk being told they aren't edgy.

[Anonymous No.10173018]

this thread is actually cancer.

[Anonymous No.10173020]

there's no point arguing about gun laws cause that shit is straight politics and neither side can win the argument.
nazi tanya should be allowed that, that loli is cute. heil flat titler.

[Anonymous No.10173158]

>>10172555
>>10172565
As an actual Nazi myself, I find this incredibly offensive. S/he is part of a nation based very loosely on the German Empire, which was a Federal Semi-Constitutional MONARCHY (just like the modern UK), that had to be reformed into the German Reich after the disaster that was the Weimar REPUBLIC.
Not to mention s/he is a mentally unstable, trans, sociopath and to imply that he'd be welcome among the honorable fighting forces of the good Nazi people is just plain rude.

[Anonymous No.10173171]

>>10173158
Are you that aussie tard from the /pol/ threads?

[Anonymous No.10173233]

>>10173158
>As an actual Nazi myself, I find this incredibly offensive
>good Nazi people
like w/e nazi, go home

[Anonymous No.10173246]

>>10172224
If you can't understand the fact that some shit is offensive to people, and shouldn't be in your cosplay, and if it is; you should be escorted out of the event. Seriously problematic shit is the entire problem.

Personally I hate having people talk to me at events, specifically people who want to get some form of contact from me and I can just tell their intentions, it's never just a picture and walk away.

[Anonymous No.10173257]

>>10173246
Please define "seriously problematic shit"

[Anonymous No.10173258]

>>10173158
I hate that the anime/con scene is filled with political freaks. Everyone is either a rainbow-haired tranny commie or a nazi LARPer.

And every time I meet someone who I think is halfway normal, they introduce me to their friends and they're always "Xavier the nonbinary anarcho-communist who identifies as unicorn-kin" or "Wayne the Hitler-worshipping doomsday prepper who can't stop talking about gun rights". Oftentimes they're both friends of the same person.

Why can't y'all just be normal eh

[Anonymous No.10173265]

>>10173258
You really must be over 25.

>>10173257
You seriously just have to ask yourself if something could be considered offensive, if yes then don't be retarded and wear it anyway.

[Anonymous No.10173266]

Too many fucking normalfags and ironic-weebs (also people think weeaboo came from filthy frank, whats a pbf)

[Anonymous No.10173272]

>>10173265
So according to your definition I can dress up in a German WW1 uniform??

[Anonymous No.10173274]

>>10173265
That's a little insulting. I'm 24.

[Anonymous No.10173275]

>>10173272
>Hey maybe I can dress up as this German in a war uniform, totally not dogwhistling as a Nazi!
Try being less retarded or go back to /pol/

[Anonymous No.10173276]

>>10173257
Anything that is blasphemous against the one true religion, you idiot bigot.

[Anonymous No.10173288]

>>10173275
That's pretty offensive to all the young men who lost their lives in what was generally considered the worst and most pointless war in history, plenty of whom were Jewish.

[Anonymous No.10173524]

>>10173258
I honestly think anime/manga is something like an addictive substance. I personally have a very serious addiction to staring at cute anime girls. /c/ was my first board, and I still find myself spending hours every week just browsing/hoarding gigabytes of stuff like pic related. If I were to indulge in it too much I would honestly end up destitute.
When you view it that way, it it any surprise that certain people are drawn to it? For example, if I told you there was going to be a convention that celebrated crack, who would you expect to show up?

Also, just for giggles:
>posting the message WhY CaNt YoU AlL bE nOrMaL on a digital cork-board whose sub-title is partially derived from a book about a guy fucking his 12yo stepdaughter

[Anonymous No.10173526]

>people complaining about Tanya
>meanwhile a literal nazi and not just nazi but even SS at Acen

Actually he did a great job on the Mauser C96 and everything else was great too. It was good to see a fair amount of Hellsing cosplayers.