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What are your unpopular cosplay opinions? From wigs to makeup to sewing and everything in between.

>> No.10147260

darkening your skin shouldn't be as big a deal as it is. people lighten their skin with makeup all the time for it, so why not darken it with makeup?

>> No.10147262

>>10147260
The answer to your question is because of the history of blackface.

I do agree that most folks don’t care as much about it as they act, and are just hopping on an opportunity to sjw better than their peers.

>> No.10147264
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Body positivity is bullshit. If you're morbidly obese no one wants yo see you dressed as sailor Mars. Use the desire to cosplay as a means to better yourself and lose weight. Also, wigs are better than natural hair. That's just a fact.

>> No.10147266

The cosplay community is better than the lolita community. I'm active in both I've heard waaaaay more people bullied out of the lolita community than cosplay.

>>10147260
Most people don't care, just the people who have too much time on their hands and need something to feel outraged over.
There is nothing wrong with darkening your skin as long as you aren't doing blackface or any other racist stereotype costume.

>> No.10147269

>>10147260
Yeah if you're doing it to be more accurate to the cosplay and aren't doing other elements of blackface, I don't see the problem with it and I'm really tired of the SJW shit about it.

>> No.10147270

>>10147264
judging from what i see on cgl, these aren't unpopular opinions

it really bothers me when people do glamour makeup for characters that clearly don't need it or use it. Main example: tharja. Every Tharja cosplayer I've ever seen puts on 10 pounds of mascara, lipstick, and eyeliner. To me, that's super tacky and unnecessary. We get it, it's a hoe outfit, but you don't have to pretend like she's supposed to be this "baddie" - she's supposed to be a weirdo that no one likes lol. Makes me feel like they never played the game..

Also; I don't care for cosplayers that recreate the same makeup style for every character. I don't expect god-tier transformations like Alyson Tabbitha, but the tumblr nose, freckles, and thick liner/falsies is super overdone and doesn't translate from 2D to 3D well at all.

>> No.10147272
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Stop using Instagram brows and gigantic lashes for every cosplay look holy shit

Especially when you're cosplaying fresh faced young anime girls

>> No.10147276

The artstyle in Jojo is ugly as hell and all of the cosplays from it are as well

>> No.10147298

Not sure how unpopular an opinion this is, but I can’t stand when Jojo cosplayers draw lines on their faces. It’s definitely a trend that took off when the anime started airing, and it bothers the hell out of me because it never looks good. Bonus points if it’s just the lines and no other makeup.

>> No.10147301

people need to stop putting glitter on for literally every cosplay. sometimes it makes sense but sometimes it’s just fuckin weird

>> No.10147302
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I really hate cartoony-styled wigs.
It doesn't matter how much effort and styling-expertise it took or how it looks 1:1 to the anime.
If it looks like a stiff mess, it's a shitty wig.

>> No.10147304

A lot of cosplayers are turning to sex work without realizing the actual consequences of it. Even with a successful Patreon, your success won’t last longer than 10 years at the absolute most unless you transition into actual porn. I think the whole “popular costhot uwu” dream is gonna die for a lot of people within the next couple of years and hopefully the community will be better for it.

>> No.10147307

Sailor moon is a classic


But god damn there are other mahou shoujo series out theres

>> No.10147310

>>10147304
what does it matter? with the pseudonyms and amount of shoop utilized in costhottery, these girls will never be recognized after ducking out in their mid twenties

>> No.10147312

>>10147310
I think a lot of it is that girls tend to age out of sex work quickly. You only have so many years in your prime before newer, younger, hotter girls start cropping up. As long as they’re careful they shouldn’t have any issue transitioning to real life but expecting this to be your career until you’re able to retire at 65 is unrealistic.

>>10147272
GOD this is my biggest pet peeve, you’re cosplaying a 14-year-old not a 45-year-old hooker.

Kind of contribution, but Imo a big reason cosplay minorities (black/POC, plus size) don’t get shared as much or as often is that their cosplays literally look like shit. I don’t know if it’s just my feed but the percentage of black cosplayers whose cosplays are visibly falling apart, look glued together, ill-fitted, have stringy shit hanging off, compared to whites/Asians whose cosplays look super clean and ironed and nicely tailored, is a huge difference. Maybe that’s why your shit isn’t getting shared.

>> No.10147321

>>10147312
I completely agree. If we’re being honest, a good portion of black cosplayers are shit tier. They don’t do character makeup, don’t care for accuracy, and generally look mediocre. And the few that are actually good get shared. It’s just the fact is that black cosplay pool is already small and most of them are bad, so there’s like less than 50 good popularish (more than 5k followers) black cosplayers.

>> No.10147324

It's unpopular for /cgl/ only I guess, but I don't actually mind seeing people, especially if they're kids, in bad/mediocre cosplay at cons as long as they don't expect a lot of attention for being the millionth aliexpress Deku I've seen that day.

>> No.10147325

>>10147266
Agree, I wanted to get into lolita about a year ago so I started browsing the threads here but the barrier to entry is so high and too many of them are so nasty. I’ve seen so many more unironic “go kill yourself”’s out of lolitas than cosplayers. Although cosplayers I feel like are more likely to be dramatic irl.
>>10147272
This. Looking at you angelic days, I know you lurk here. Your LL cosplays would improve immensely if you’d cut the normie date night makeup.
>>10147276
I like early JoJo but from like part 5 on its so sameface, regardless of gender, and I hate how everyone praises Araki as a god.
>>10147304
Here’s an actual hot take from me: the term “sex worker” gives too much dignity. I know the whole female exploiting males and feminist meme over it but I just don’t agree. It’s gross dude. Especially if it’s your full time income. What’s gonna explain that big empty period of time on your resume?

>> No.10147330

>>10147324
That's my sentiment.
I don't care if your cosplay is shitty or simple or slightly inaccurate or bought online or obscure, just don't expect to get your ass kissed.

>> No.10147332

>>10147272
The worst part is that this girl is actually super pretty. I don't even know what happened here; like >>10147312 said, she looks 45 because of the makeup. But the photos of her out of cosplay have really fresh looking makeup and she's very pretty. So she understands makeup very well, in which case why choose makeup like this for a tomboyish 15 year old like Rin?

>> No.10147334

A lot of the cosplayers who jumped on the 'don't blackface' bandwagon have done yellowface before, trying to make their eyes look more asian with extreme makeup and facetaping but no one has called them out on it. I understand the message, I just wish they wouldn't be hypocritical and own up to their shit.

>> No.10147338
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>>10147269
Counter the social justice jews by being social justice jews on them when they lighten their skin to something they're not.

>> No.10147343
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>>10147338

>> No.10147347

American cosplayers are ugly af compared to their asian counter parts

>> No.10147350

>>10147347
I know this board is dense af but please don’t take this bait.

>> No.10147353

>>10147338
Lightening your skin doesn't have any historical baggage like the whole history of blackface, so you really can't counter them with SJW shit here. The most you could try for is that you're enforcing racist notions of beauty by saying light skin is more attractive and that's a weak argument I'm not sure even SJW types would buy in terms of cosplay.

>> No.10147360

>>10147353
It does, just not in Murrica. Who knew discrimination was unqiue to cultures?

>> No.10147385

>>10147353
whiteface gets called out on occasion (not often, NEVER high profile) and that is exactly the argument used

>> No.10147391

>>10147353
This.
If there’s even a semi logical argument against a callout, you can’t get sjw points. Therefore no one is going to attempt a skin-lightening call out.
You gotta remember these kids don’t actually know anything about oppression and are just making waves to look cool in the eyes of their e-friends.

>> No.10147460

>>10147302
The alternative would be much worse. I'd take a stiff cartoony wig or a limp, unimpressive, and lifeless one any day

>> No.10147611

>>10147460
There's a line between out-of-the-bag wigs and a stiff foamcore mess, that's really where I like wigs to be.

>> No.10147612

>>10147270
Well even if the character is a loner who no one likes who probably wouldn’t wear makeup in real life, she’s drawn very glamorously. Most characters are, hence the heavy makeup.

>> No.10147631

>>10147260
because a big ass country have a shit load of racial issues so the rest of the whole world don't have the right to do it

>> No.10147635

>>10147353
>Lightening your skin doesn't have any historical baggage
Neither does darkening your skin.
relating darkening your skin to blackface is no different than relating cosplay to blackface.

>> No.10147656

>>10147635
I mean, I personally don't care, but you really don't see how other folks can look at white people darkening their skin to perform a character and relate it to a tradition of white people darkening their skin to perform a character?

>> No.10147691

>>10147656
I understand what you're saying and agree to an extent but the sentiment behind blackface and the sentiment behind "I want to cosplay this racially ambiguous tanned skin anime character" are very different.

>> No.10147751

>>10147312
I tried to explain that to someone. They posted on Facebook how trans/POC are not getting as much attention. His brilliant idea was to only pose for pictures if the photographer had taken pictures of either blacks or trans. I committed to God awful sin of suggesting maybe their cosplay isn’t that great, or they just didn’t want to shoot another “what’s hot right now” cosplay. (How many Tony Stark in sunglasses and Black Sabbath shirts can there be?) Big surprise, he blocked me.

>> No.10147828

>>10147751
>only pose for pictures if the photographer had taken pictures of either blacks or trans
How would you even know that though? I don't know the history of every person that holds a camera at me, not to mention you can't always tell by looking at someone if they're trans.
Facebook logic is some next-level shit.

>> No.10147923

>>10147828
>>10147751
Honestly, are you going to ask every photog who stops you what their handle is, go to their page while they stand there, and check and see who they’ve shot? If I were that photog I’d walk away.

>> No.10147959

>>10147751
Yep. I'm pretty color blind as far as race when it comes to cosplay. But if your costume is shitty, it's shitty. I feel like a lot of POC cosplayers don't get the attention they want and then bitch about, blaming it on their race.
News flash: it's not your race, it's your shitty costume. No one is going to give you attention just for being a race other than white.

>> No.10148211

>>10147312
sorry for off topic but do you or someone know some good POC cosplayer ?

>> No.10148213

>>10148211
Not personally, I usually see a lot of the good POC cosplayers I follow during 28 days of black cosplay; try looking through the tag, I tend to share or follow ones whose photos reflect good craftsmanship.

>> No.10148263

>>10148211
@kristinaarielle
@ibluecosplay
@dressesandcapes
@sakythia
@beckanoel
@gladzykei

off the top of my head

>> No.10148277

>>10147635
This is straight up wrong and you know it.

Only on 4chan, folks!

>> No.10148306

>>10147959
the problem is cute white girls with awful construction absolutely DO get undeserved attention and people are way more critical of cosplay quality when it’s a black or latino cosplayer

>> No.10148442

>>10148306
This, desu. I've seen more than enough white girls and ~boiz~ with shitty closet costumes, a wig slapped on some photoshop and a bikini and wrinkled, ill-fitting low quality aliexpress "costests" still be popular. You can look through basically any popular character tag on Instagram for evidence.

I don't personally care about popularity, but its disingenuous to say it's only due to low quality construction. People drown manic pixie waifs like Ahripop in fame for basically nothing other than being cute white girls in storebought, unironed cosplays.

>> No.10148449

>>10147298
I hate the jojo lines people draw too. It’s always ugly and makes the entire cosplay look like a mess. I’ve seen so many people have it ruined by bad rain weather which gets a good chuckle out of me

>> No.10148538

>>10147272
>99.9% of Ochako cosplayers

>> No.10148539

>>10147307
This. I hate when people claim to be shoujo fans without watching more than one series. Being a fan of (1) shoujo and being a shoujo fan are very different.

>> No.10148545

>>10148442
I love how you emphasized costests. They're never fucking costests. These assholes are just too lazy to put in effort and never do shit beyond getting the wig.

>> No.10148578

>>10147612
thank you for confirming my unpopular opinion lol

another topic: I think it's okay for people that make great cosplays to not be cosplayers after that. happened to my bf; he spent 4 months making one big armor cosplay and people were constantly pressuring him about when the next one was coming up, is he gonna make a social media page, etc. but he just made it for himself and he didnt enjoy it anymore after he'd worn it 4 or 5 times. I think the cosplay community can be overly invasive too, like your life doesn't have to revolve around it 1000%.

>> No.10148582

>>10147232
Anyone who publicly complains about meme cosplay is a gate keeping faggot who hates fun and should immediately be gassed.

>> No.10148589

>>10148578
>I think the cosplay community can be overly invasive too, like your life doesn't have to revolve around it 1000%.
Oh fucking hell, absolutely.
People act like it's a sin if you're not obsessed with becoming cosplay famous.

>> No.10148600

>>10148582
What's your favorite meme cosplay? Mine was a dude wearing a runescape "looking for gf" costume. He walked by so fast I couldn't give a compliment or get a picture.

>> No.10148601

>>10148306
If black girls are cute they will get the same attention.

>> No.10148607

>>10148277
What did I say that you think is wrong?

>> No.10148654

>>10148601
nah. even the most popular black costhots pale in comparison (lel) to popular white costhots

>> No.10148680

>>10147270
Ugh, I feel this so hard with Tharja. Not even just the makeup, but Tharja’s personality is in direct contrast with her outfit, she’s reserved and awkward and not at all like the thotty way most cosplayers portray her.

Along those same lines, just HATE how every character has to be lewded these days. Especially characters that are minors, even if the cosplayer is an adult. Just feels gross to me.

>> No.10148734

>>10148680
I never would've guess that about her character. I know nothing about her beyond the way cosplayers portray her, but I absolutely thought she was a confident, sassy, and domineering woman.

I saw a lewded Platelet cosplayer once and felt a little piece of hope die inside of me

>> No.10148807

>>10148734
Exactly my point. Tharja's actually a really well-written and interesting morally ambiguous character, she was actually one of my favourite the first time I played Awakening (and that was without influence from the fanbase since I wasn't involved with it yet, and I'm also a straight woman). It pisses me off so much that she ended up with an outfit like that, not because I don't think it's cute, but because it's led to the total bastardisation of her character by outsiders. I cringe every time I see those all those "sexy Tharja" cosplays, because they obviously haven't played the game, or if they have, they're just looking to lewd whatever they can.

>lewded Platelet
Dear god I need eye bleach just from reading that.

>> No.10148883

>>10148654
People can’t help their preferences and the sad fact is a pretty white girl is more desirable than a pretty black girl in a majority white and Asian hobby.

>> No.10148914

Cosplay in general is in such a boring state as all we care about is static glamor shots in interchangeable backgrounds.

>> No.10149013

>>10148914
speak for yourself, there are tons of people who really care about quality of the craft and taking artful photos

>> No.10149116

>>10149013
That's true, but that's unfortunately a smaller portion of the cosplay community at large.

>> No.10149151

>>10148600
I tend to enjoy groups doing Russians in Adidas clothes blasting Tripaloski and squatting.

>> No.10149188

>>10149151
I unironically like that too although I haven't seen it much at anime conventions

>> No.10149229
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Fujoshits need to fucking stop. They’re making some creepy fetishistic over sexualized and exaggerated mockery of gay men under the guise of being “LGBT”. Imagine if men dressed as tsuyu and ochako to makeout and act as slutty and ooc as possible to satisfy their creepy lust. Fujos are just as bad as dudes that fetishize lesbians.

>> No.10149257

>>10149229
I completely agree with this, fujos are disgusting. But every cosplayer doing a gay ship isn’t a fujo.

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>>10149229
I’d say MHA fans and jojos are the worst about it, at least in recent years.

>> No.10149352

>>10149229
two women making out for their own gratification is inherently lgbt though? unless you want to argue that they each see themselves as female and the other as male or something

>> No.10149489

>>10149229
>under the guise of being “LGBT”
umm
What does that even mean.
Two women kissing seem fairly gay to me.
I'm not sure what even bothers you about it. How is it any different than non-cosplay straight couples?

>> No.10149512

>>10149489
Cherry picked that part and ignored the rest. Fujo, have a seat.

>> No.10149514

>>10149489
you can say whatever bs about women you want as long as you put ‘fujo’ or ‘straight’ in front of it, apparently

>> No.10149536

>>10148589
exactly; even now im still struggling with a former friend talking shit about me 5 years later and i don't even cosplay much, like a couple of times a year. i don't understand the people that are that obsessed, outside of the community you're just any average joe lol. but fuck me, people think they are celebrities so they can treat people who actually do it for fun like shit

>> No.10149546

>>10149229
Fujos are wierd, but they are nowhere near as bad as men who sexualise lesbians since at least they get their gratification from fictional characters and each other.

>> No.10149547

>>10149229
>Fujos are just as bad as dudes that fetishize lesbians.
Nah there's a huge difference. You sound like someone who'd say people who say "I hate men" are sexist

>> No.10149549

>>10149546
>at least they get their gratification from fictional characters
Generally that's true but there are some that get off on shipping real people like actors, k-pop band members, youtubers, etc.

>> No.10149558
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>>10148734
to sum it up, she is textbook yandere when she links up with whatever character you pair her with; but otherwise she is cold/threatening to the other characters, to the point that she is disliked by most. so yeah, it is very jarring to see her interpreted as a thot by cosplayers who clearly never played the game.

>> No.10149562

>>10149512
I didn't ignore the rest. That part specifically is what made the least sense and wasn't answered by the rest of the comment.

>>10149547
>people who say "I hate men" are sexist
but thats literally true. What else does the word sexist mean to you if not the unequal treatment of men and women?

>> No.10149627

>>10147334
Fucking this. I am so sick of people pretending that racism against black people is the only racism that exists

>> No.10149641

>>10149352
>that they each see themselves as female and the other as male or something
Pretty much.
Gay shit is LGBT, yes, but yaoi is just straight porn where they both have dicks.
If you look at a lot of yaoi art made by women, one dude is made to be overly feminine, representing the girl in the relationship.
They're getting better about legitimately showing two guys, in the west anyway. Japanese fujos haven't really changed.

>> No.10149702

>>10149641
wait, so to be clear, if I, a man, have sex with a feminine looking man, thats straight?

>> No.10149720

>>10149702
no, no, you have to be a crossdressing woman having sex with a woman dressed as a crossdressing man. THAT’S straight

>> No.10149735

>>10149641
isn't the whole appeal of yaoi to depict men as feminine instead of their typical toxic masculine self like a form of escapism

>> No.10149750

>>10149641

idk as a confused teenage girl i felt that yaoi helped me a lot with accepting i liked grils, interestingly enough. granted there was a lot of actual misogyny in the community with hating on girl characters and fanfics hilariously offed them or wrote them out, but in a way they normalized a lot of lgbt to teenage girls, even if it wasn't in a very kosher way at first.

eventually i grew away from that, but i'm still searching for that written lesbian romance that isn't about coded lesbianism or being LGBT and just about two people who love each other.

>> No.10149785

>>10149558
Thanks for the summary. I feel bad that's she been done so dirty like this.

>> No.10149790

>>10149735
No. Feminine men are one class of yaoi archetype, but it's not the main appeal. The main appeal is to watch men get it on and get together. That's like saying there's only 1 category of straight porn.

>> No.10149804

>>10149790
>to watch men get it on and get together
And that's bad because...?

>> No.10149827

If you're a dedicated enough cosplayer to have a cosplay social media page, you should be making cosplays instead of buying them. Otherwise, you're not showing off anything but your shit-tier modeling abilities. Worst of all, some of them think they deserve to be paid for their shitty modeling career. The amount of times I asked to take a photo with some rando character from the series I'm cosplaying, only for them to give me their insta business card? Way too many damn times. And every time, it's someone who's got a shitty cosplay that's obviously bought, and I just laugh in "made my cosplay head to toe". If you're this self-absorbed, get bent.

I'll add that I assumed the hobby would be a lot more focused on making cosplays rather than buying them (before I got into it), but seeing the vast amount of people in it that think they've "made it" in the scene without actually making anything is insane.

I know it's gatekeepy.

>> No.10149849

>>10149804
I didn't say it was bad, I said that was the main appeal.

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>>10149785
>>10149558
>>10148734
>>10148807
>>10148680
oh please, the figure itself portrays her as a thot. please stop virtue signaling

>> No.10149893

>>10147260
Not calling you a Nazi, but blackface is kind of like the toothbrush mustache - in a vacuum it's probably fine, but it's not quite far enough back in history to escape the really negative connotations it held.

>> No.10149899

>>10149885
That’s the problem. Her outfit + IS’s sexualixation of her in promo stuff is why people have such a warped perception of her character. I’m not virtue signaling, I’m just defending a character I like.

Even if the game sexualizes her (biggest boobs in the army, etc), Tharja is NOT an overtly sexual character at all in personality. Her sprites convey that well, with her pulled back and hugging a book, shadows over her eyes. She’s withdrawn, dark, cold, and awkward around others. So the portrayal of her as a super thotty goth gf dominatrix just makes me roll my eyes.
Like I said, it’s not the literal outfit I have a problem with, as I actually think it’s cute. It’s that it’s lead to such bastardization of her character.

>> No.10150020

>>10149899
There’s a person in my comm that’s constantly spamming photos of her version of Tharja that annoys me to no end. She wears a curly/wavy wig with it, a heavily embellished crown, a crap of body jewellery and even string lights sewn into every possible part of the fabric and still calls her cosplay ‘Tharja’. At that point, you’re just a goth belly dancer! That’s not in line with Tharja’s character at all anymore. If she posted it without the caption, I doubt anyone would’ve recognized her character. She still gets likes though.

I can’t even man....

>> No.10150065

>>10149229
>>10149489
Maybe I can explain, Ive seen multiple cosplayer who are trans/nonbinary,bi, etc saying their doing " lgbt content" instead of ship . Some even say that straight women who like and make yaoi content are the one fetishising gay men.
I personally find it rather ironic that lesbian enjoying this content is not seen as badly as straight women and you rarely see cis gay men talking about this subject .

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Cosplay and lolita and whatnot should be about having fun, not necessarily being the most accurate or ornate, and shouldn't be used as a vehicle to indulge in petty passive-aggressive bitching.

>> No.10150712

>>10150065
Bi guy here. Fujo stuff just makes me uncomfortable when other people try to wrap me up in it, especially cause they tend to all be into that sort of "uwu softboy" crap.

If they want to do it on their own, that's fine, but it annoys the hell out of me when they try to pull actual gay/bi guys into it.

>> No.10153773

>>10147260
It honestly just looks like shit every time. I don't care about the political correctness aspect of the issue, I just think face paint to make your skin look darker looks horrible no matter how well it's done. Get a tan or something.

>> No.10153816

People who vague post about getting bullied and how they're not going to accept it/how strong they are/what a shame the community is tend to always be the worst bullies themselves.

>> No.10153878

>>10149229
Yeah but men are way creepier and they tend to do more awful things.

>> No.10153891

>>10150065
>saying their doing " lgbt content" instead of ship . Some even say that straight women who like and make yaoi content are the one fetishising gay men.
I don't understand the significance of this.

>> No.10153918

It kind of grosses me out when girls that cosplay have untoned, hanging asses.

I never noticed it before working out, but now I can spot it everywhere.

>> No.10154207

seeing 5'6 women crossplay tall ojis or buffmen is honestly laughable
you're a pudgy short woman without a v frame, it's just embarissing

>> No.10154208

>>10153918
What’s your routine, friendo

>> No.10154362

>>10149885
>references the figure, which is clearly made to make money
>does not reference the game

you can be gone, thot. go cry to your patrons about how the mean internet people don't care to associate slutty clothing with slutty behavior necessarily.

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>>10153918
so you have a nice ass and make fun of the rest of us? hidoi....

>> No.10154441

>>10153918
Toned asses are better than saggy ones? Wow anon, such an unpopular opinion. So brave of you to say

>> No.10154442

>>10147325
My unpopular opinion is that demonizing sex work reeks of puritanical nerdiness and there is nothing inherently “undignified” about it. Costhots don’t do much worse than the lame shit actors and actresses have to do to get famous. Jobs involving fame (costhots) shouldn’t be lumped together with all sex work because wannabe famous people are always desperate.

And I’d disagree about it all being unskilled. Maybe some. But for anyone to make good money, you need the skills of a salesman. Just a pretty face or body is a dime a dozen. But people like you get so angry at the thought of attractive women having money thrown at them that you refuse to see the actual social/customer service skills inherently required in such a job, same as any cashier would need.

>> No.10154443

>>10150712
How do they pull you into it?

>> No.10154447

>>10149893
Ok but literally only hitler and Chaplin are famous for having those. Dark skin is commonplace and if you have a functioning brain, you should be able to discern ridicule from cosplay. Just look at the damn thing and ask yourself “is this person trying to be true to a character or trying to be a caricature?” It’s not that hard unless you’re a child.

>> No.10154450

>>10153773
There’s just no way for it to look natural. That shit always winds up looking like mud.

>> No.10154461

>>10154442
Ok but bitch, how are you going to put those skills on a resume? What’s going to explain that gap in your working life when someone younger and hotter than you inevitably comes along?

Also too much porn is just bad for society. You’re going to laugh at me for this but think about it: the easier it is to get porn, the less people have to work to form relationships, the easier they are to become complacent with mediocrity (especially with men seeking women). Im convinced the world would have less antisocial gamer boys if there were less porn around. And from personal experience, some of them are so smart...could have made nice advancements in society. I never wanna be a supporter of saturating the already saturated porn market with camwhore thots. Call me a nerd or prude, I don’t care.

>>10154447
Their excuse is usually “but the cosplayers can just take the makeup off at the end of the day and black people cant” which I think is some alarmist shit but whatever

>> No.10154463

komando is literally free headshots
inane

>> No.10154504 [DELETED] 

>hide objective on open area
>spawn peek
>kill two left most on cams
>somehow .05 ms micro adjust on last 2 for a double headshot
shit i need to figure out how to make webms

>> No.10154515

>>10154461
Hello fellow radfem lol

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>>10147312
>Imo a big reason cosplay minorities (black/POC, plus size) don’t get shared as much or as often is that their cosplays literally look like shit.


Good POC cosplayer here.
I fly under the radar on purpose.
My shit is tailored, ironed, with clean AF sewing techniques.

But I do not share my stuff.
Because a not unlarge portion of fuckfaces out there think they are badasses for pointing out Ochako isn't brown, Lunafreya isn't a *igger, I'd be cute if I wasn't black, Dante doesn't have a nose like a black girl....

If those people could shut the hell up and enjoy the beautiful workmanship over shit people can't change then you would see more good POC cosplay.

>> No.10154521

>>10147260
Ahistorical take.jpeg

>> No.10154597

>>10154519
That really sucks

>> No.10154598

>>10154461
The same way you market any other interpersonal skills, duh.

And honestly, I also thinks porn as it is is bad for society but blaming the exploited workers in the industry isn’t logical. The racist sexist marketing shit doesn’t come from them, especially when they’re part of a larger popular porn company

>> No.10154619

>>10154598
“Where do you have experience with these skills? Where are the receipts for these skills?”

>> No.10154647

>>10154519

>If those people could shut the hell up and enjoy the beautiful workmanship over shit people can't change

You and I both know people are too busy throwing attention at girls who tape their eyes back and meitu their eyelid creases into the sun while they throw on shitty aliexpress seifukus to actually praise someone's craftsmanship.

>> No.10154769

>>10154619
Anon, you realize some sex workers can have bosses and references right? And being able to hold a job for years without descending into poverty is common for self-employed people. You’re acting like you’ve never seen a resume before.

>> No.10154795

>>10154769
>some sex workers

>some

You’re right. SOME. If you happen to be one that doesn’t, what do you do as far as references go??

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>>10149229
i can't believe this is an actual unpopular opinion and people are defending against it, holy fuck.

>> No.10155109

>>10154795
Are you actually concerned or nah

>> No.10155829

>>10155074
how did you find that pic of my daily schedule

>> No.10155865

>>10155109
We’re asking you to defend the thots. People should think about their futures a little you know?

>> No.10155885

>>10154795
what do you think actors and models and self employed people do on their resume? don't be retarded

>> No.10155890

>>10147232

Gender swap is BS. Go cosplay someone of your gender.

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>>10155885
“I was an actor playing background characters”
“I did freelance art work for a year”
vs
“I fucked myself on camera for money during that time”
You ma’am are the retard.

>> No.10156089

>>10153891
maybe they say lgbt content so the meanie meanie straigties should not enjoy it and it gave them (the lgbt member who are not cis gay) a pass to say they are not fujos for liking yaoi content ( ironically I ve never seen a cis dude call is gay ship content like that )

>> No.10156393

>>10154442
I don't have a problem with sex work. But call it what it is. If all you're doing is lingerie shoots in a wig, it's not really cosplay anymore, it's gravure or erotic modeling or idk what you want to call it.
But most of these girls will deny that they're sex workers and get all offended. Nope, accept what you are. If the only reason you're making money is because of your boudoir or lewd shoots, you're not getting paid to be a cosplayer.
I just hate that now people expect you to have a patreon and do lewds if you cosplay. Or that you have to try to get a following. Some of us just like making and wearing costumes.

>> No.10156436

>>10147260
people use tanning lotions that make the skin darker all the time.

>> No.10156438

>>10149336
Oh this is awful

>> No.10157329

>>10153878
I wish I was this sheltered

>> No.10157363

The best cosplayers are those who post their cosplay in aliexpress reviews

>> No.10157365 [DELETED] 

Niggers are horrible at cosplay but I like akane araragi and black patchouli

>> No.10157392

>>10157329
Look at crime statistics and come again.

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Jessica Nigri and other 'costhots' are not inherently bad and the common screeching that they are 'ruining the hobby' is completely unfounded.

>> No.10157509

I hate it when someone has a really good costume, but the makeup is either super low effort or just straight up not there. Same for the wig.

>> No.10158393

>>10157427
>'costhots' are not inherently bad


Says someone who wasn't around to watch it go from "I love this show and this is how much I love it" to "Ass and titties Pikachu cause hee hee"


Nah they are bad and you are questionable for not seeing how cerebral hobby gone basic sex sells is bad.

>> No.10158397

>>10158393
I love cosplaying but calling it “cerebral” is just a hilarious over exaggeration.

>> No.10158421

Yaoi garbage ships need to stay out of cosplay

>> No.10158433

>>10158397
>I love cosplaying but calling it “cerebral” is just a hilarious over exaggeration.


I can see how you could see it that way.

But I guess it depends on what circles you traveled in. Back in the day we were having fun showing a love for a series but we were also comparing notes on where the fuck that trim came from, who the heck knows how to work with plaster, and you can fake this with that. We were being brainy with our emotional connection with a show.
So yeah, cerebral fun got invaded by sex fun.

Which could be alright to some degree because people like sex and it's natural to gravitate to it. Problem was everything already has sex all over it from selling burgers to hair color. Cosplay would have been nice if the sex stayed over in a corner that you could go have fun with if you wanted. It didn't need to leak into damn near every aspect.

>> No.10158449

>>10158433

I feel like a lot of people who took cosplay as seriously as you are now into historical costuming. That usually can be sexed up less and you have the same sperge out (in a good way) over trims and lace, and what is the perfect historically accurate fabric.

It's kind of sad that once they left, we are just left with a bunch of bikini Pikachu and bought cosplay. It's very different from when I entered with all the DIY aspects. They're pretty much gone now.

>> No.10159268

I wish disney and capeshit cosplayers would keep their garbage away from anime cons.
The best anime cons are the ones that take place on the same weekend as a nearby comic con.

>> No.10162225

>>10158449


That's a pretty fair assessment.
I know more than a few of us went on to do some historical garments.


I used to bristle at bought cosplay as it was such a cop out and cookie cutter. But what right do I have to tell someone how to be a fan?
But it has oven taken the hobby like you said. I have a couple acquaintances who have done nothing but bought all their stuff for about a decade now and all I can think was by now you could be creating anything you want instead of being at the mercy of what is available from a Chinese sweatshop or at the whims of whoever you commissioned.

Couple that with all the sexy cause sex and now there is genuine surprise when you say you made something. And each time I see that surprise I am reminded that this is how it is now and how much it didn't used to be.

>> No.10162258

>>10159268
I wish anime cosplayers would not cosplay anime at stuff like pax or vidgame cons

>> No.10162284

>>10162258
I’ve never been to one but I cant imagine there being the same uneven ratio of anime to vidya/comics as there is vice verse at anime cons. The MHA yaoigirls might be tryin though.

>> No.10162355

>>10162258
>>10159268
Same desu. I wish people would stop treating conventions like general "nerd spaces" and just respect what their themes are.
I don't think there's a way to strictly enforce that but people need to be more actively discouraging of it.

>> No.10162369

Cosplayers and cosplay fans are totally and utterly full of shit, but ita fans are even more bloated with shit.

If you're so obsessed with presentation, authenticity, and show-accuracy, then cosplay isn't your hobby, it's your fetish.

If you use geek "communities" as a crutch for your emotional and physical shortcomings, you're not actually a geek, you're just leeching off of actual hobbyists to make yourself feel better.

Stop hating on people for cosplaying a character of a different skin color. Let blacks cosplay who they want.

Stop hating on cosplay done entirely as a joke or from a person with 0 cosplay skill and knowledge. The fact that they're willing to go out and look like idiots just because they're excited shows they have more heart than any of you pretentious fucking cucks.

All professional female cosplay models are whores.

There is nothing wrong with whores or sex workers in general, so long as they're not pretending they aren't whores.

All jacked male cosplay models are whores, too.

>> No.10162395

>>10154519
Literally just cosplay a black character if you care so much

>> No.10162402

>>10162369
>All professional female cosplay models are whores.
>All jacked male cosplay models are whores, too.

I’m inclined to disagree but I’ve yet to meet any who aren’t, especially men.

>> No.10162435

>>10147232
Hooker boots like in OP with a 5” platform and a 7” heel to compensate for height will ALWAYS look trashy, no matter the character.

>> No.10162497

>>10147260
It's fine going a single shade or two darker. But, going from pale to dark mocha is hella racist. Blackface is only an aspect of minstrelsy and almost every black person will tell you it's very disrespectful. We don't see people taping their eyes to look more Asian for anime characters, but it's fine to color your skin to look more black?

Also, the intention argument is bullshit. If I accidentally step on your shoes, you'll still be upset regardless of the fact that it was an accident. On top of that, blackface isn't an ahistorical concept that exists in a vacuum. A quick google search will show you that blackface parties were still a thing back in 2014.

Cosplay does not exist in a vacuum. Social issues still apply.

>> No.10162501

>>10147312
I snorted at the inaccuracy. The most basic white and Asian girls get shared all the time while even the best black cosplayers get criticized for daring to cosplay while black. And race has no impact on the ability to cosplay.

>> No.10162507

>>10147334
This. Blackface is still wrong, but don't try to make yourself look more Asian either.

>> No.10162531

>>10147312
On the other hand, I see a lot of POC cosplayers being shared solely for being POC, even if their cosplays are awfully made and get showered in "omg canon", "literally perfect!!" comments. I appreciate trying to uplift POC cosplayers but at least do so to the ones that are deserving of it. Praising someone's less-than- mediocre work just because they're POC is just giving them a free pass to be lazy and not push themselves to improve, imo.

Same goes to anybody in the same position, I also see plenty white people being shared and praised because they're doing some very popular characer, even if the cosplay itself looks shit. Let's stop rewarding poorly made work.

>> No.10162537

>>10162497
American.

>> No.10162541

>>10162497
>We don't see people taping their eyes to look more Asian for anime characters
They do, there was some fakeboi bitch under fire for that a while ago.

I agree with your other points, though.

>>10162531
>I see a lot of POC cosplayers being shared solely for being POC, even if their cosplays are awfully made and get showered in "omg canon", "literally perfect!!" comments.
That pisses me off too, I see people do that with fat people as well.
Like okay sure we shouldn't be critical of things someone can't easily control (skin color or weight), but you're also not doing them a favor by giving them asspats *because* of those same qualities.

>> No.10162561

>>10162501
>while even the best black cosplayers get criticized for daring to cosplay while black
Delusional, leave your bubble sometime

>> No.10162681

>>10162395

no.

>> No.10163092

>>10162541
>Equating someone’s literal skin color to obesity.
The absolute state of the cosplay scene in the current year.

>> No.10163112

>>10163092
t. fatty-chan

>> No.10163193

>>10162369
>All professional female cosplay models are whores.
>There is nothing wrong with whores or sex workers in general, so long as they're not pretending they aren't whores.
>All jacked male cosplay models are whores, too.

>>10162402
>I’m inclined to disagree but I’ve yet to meet any who aren’t, especially men.


Thirding. I don't know any who aren't either. And my chief issue with them is thinking they aren't selling their body. They totally are. Just be fine with that, call it what it is.

>> No.10163195

>>10149229
No joke, you sound like a salty genderspecial 17-year old Tumblr Ayden who's ~totally not like other fujos~.

>> No.10163228

>>10147262
People seem to fail to grasp the difference between what they consider blackface and what is actually blackface. Someone giving their skin tone a slightly darker complexion (say pasty white to Sokka from AtLA) is not blackface. Making yourself look like a lawn jockey with coal black skin and big red lips is blackface.

>> No.10163232

>>10147330
I'm hoping to get at least a few pics taken of me in my Pyramid Head costume at Acen in a couple weeks even though I'm following like 0 builds on anything and just kind of building it all (helmet, apron, stilts, sword) just off gut feeling and what I think looks neat.

It's my first actual cosplay I've done where it wasnt just clothes and maybe a simple prop. So I dont expect to get high praise for it but I'm doing the best I can.

>> No.10163233

>>10147828
The ironic thing about SJW'S and wanting all these labels on a person to be known is them basically putting a big old fucking yellow star on themselves and others so everyone knows who/what they are.

>> No.10163244
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>>10147232
Nearly every cosplay of a drawn or animated character needs significant design adjustment to better fit actual humans. Unless you go full cardboard as pixel sprites or low-poly 3D models, trying to make yourself look as accurate as possible is an exercise in futility. I know a lot of you will think this is obvious, but a massive percentage of genuinely terrible cosplays are as bad as they are because the wearer doesn't really understand this.

>> No.10163308

>>10162369
I really want to disagree with the whore points out of principle, but I've only met one "famous" cosplayer who wasn't one so....

>> No.10163310

>>10163244
I completely agree. I also see lots of non-cosplayers criticising people on here and reddit for not being "accurate" enough even when their costume is spectacularly-made, because if things they've changed to accommodate it being for a real-life person.

>> No.10163335

All cosfamous people are dicks, even those who try to keep a sweetheart image up. It's just what happens when you get famous on social media, and to manipulate the audience you actually need to have narcissist features.

>> No.10163337

>>10163228

nope. That's still wrong.

You do not get to use someone's natural skintone as a costume you can slip in and out of.

Brown people gotta deal with shit just cause they are brown and putting on their skin for funsies minimalizes the shit they go through cause you wanted to have for for a couple hours.

>> No.10163347

>>10163244
I don't get this board's boner for accuracy, I'd take a costume modified to be more flattering to the wearer over a more accurate but less flattering costume any day. Plus it's a lot of fun to see people put their own spin on a design, especially one that has been done many times before.

>> No.10163359

>>10163335
I think it's more that they have too many people to please that it's unrealistic to be able to take time for each one.
I do agree that they're dicks and it's due to the nature of fame, just not for the reason you think.
Then again, you might have a point because it seems like only dicks ever get famous.

>>10163337
It's just for accuracy, dude.

>> No.10163372

>>10163359
nayrt but if you care about accuracy just cosplay one of the thousands of white/pale characters, don’t use some patchy facepaint that looks nothing like real dark skin. it looks like shit completely independently of racist undertones

>> No.10163374

>>10163372
I agree to an extent. Another anon worded it better, but basically lightening or darkening a few shades off from your natural skin doesn't look bad. Going from pasty white to medium or dark tones looks bad, just like going from medium/dark to light looks bad.
Also don't use an actual face paint, use foundation and the proper contour colors for it.

>> No.10163388

>>10163359
>It's just for accuracy, dude.

Question: how poorly made is the rest of your costume that you think that matching skintone is going to be what makes you ~super accurate and recognizable~?

If your wig/costume construction/etc. Are recognizable enough, you don't need to change your skintone. Also, as >>10163372 and >>10163374 said, it usually winds up looking like mottled shite anyway, racial shit and burgerland history aside.

>> No.10163741

>>10147276
idk I've seen some good ones

>> No.10163760

>>10163337
so is this largely an American issue?

>> No.10163763

>>10162497
>We don't see people taping their eyes to look more Asian for anime characters,

because anime characters have fuck huge eyes

>> No.10163773

>>10163760
Not them but I have no idea what role blackfacing played in other cultures, if at all.
So as far as I know, yes it's mostly an American issue.

I have seen Japanese cosplayers paint their skin brown for cosplaying brown characters, no idea how common of a practice it is though.

>> No.10163916

>>10163773
It's not just American, it's a big problem in Europe as well. Specifically the Dutch have a character called Zwarte Piet that's basically blackface Santa.

>> No.10164140

>>10163112
Sorry, were your fat folds covering your eyes? I was pointing out the fact that anon was equating a literal physical trait that cannot be changed no matter how hard they may try (skin color, in case you weren’t able to get that) to fucking obesity. Try reading what might’ve been implied first before >projecting this hard.

>> No.10164152

>>10163337
what about sun tan, nigger?

>> No.10164154

>>10163337
What about black people donning wigs/straightening their hair? Do they get to do that?

>> No.10164165

>>10147260

Perhaps but I understand why people get upset with it

>> No.10164167

>>10164154
Are you one of those kids who cry about not having a white history month

>> No.10164324

>>10163388
>Question: how poorly made is the rest of your costume that you think that matching skintone is going to be what makes you ~super accurate and recognizable~?
Not at all, it's can just be the line between a good costume and a great one. It's a bit more like contact lenses in that it's just a cosmetic detail that isn't necessarily required.

>> No.10164352

>>10163228
>>10163337
It's another one of those 'shouldn't be a big issue in a perfect world but racism exists too much' things. Just like purposely using incorrect pronouns shouldn't be a hate crime, it should just be 'wow what a dick' but unfortunately the world we live in right now is fully of shitty people legitimately trying to mobilize hate against minorities and so people get desperate and try to police shit to protect themselves and their friends. It's a fucky situation which would be vastly improved by everyone chilling out and not being a dickhead to one another.


Anyway, cosplay pet hate:

Homemade boots/shoes when they're perfectly sourceable. I understand some shoes are just too obscure or unusual to find, but when I see stuff like [90s] Team Rocket cosplayers making their own boots out of cardboard and black paint it makes me cringe. I understand that the animation and art from the games and the anime makes them look flat and featureless, but it seems pretty clear that this is not necessarily canon but an animation choice for the sake of brevity. Having a great, well made Team Rocket outfit ruined by some awkward square boot covers that look like they were coloured in with a sharpie not only looks clumsy, it doesn't even feel accurate to the character. Having some kind of black rubber boots or wellies that match the outfit is clearly the superior route. I see as many outfits ruined by poor shoes as I do poor wigs.

>> No.10164400

>>10164352
I have never seen homemade shoes before and I thank the gods every day for that.

>> No.10164501

>>10164154
>What about black people donning wigs/straightening their hair? Do they get to do that?


Your guardians did not grow you for 9 months & raise you this far for you to turn out this obtuse.

If you sincerely need someone to explain how your comparison is so so so very wrong let me know.

>> No.10164503

boudoir of a character that would never do something 'sexy' is shit.
it's also not cosplay unless the character have worn that lingerie and whatever.
this might not be unpopular HERE on cgl but we know damn well that it is out there. try to call a costhot on her bullshit and people will hunt you down

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>>10163388
well if you want to cosplay galo sengen

>> No.10164636

>>10164501
The was the point of my asking, yes. Or are you struggling to justify your double standards?

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>>10164503
I know a girl who does this on Instagram for pennies and it drives me nuts. She is really nice, but a bra and a wig isn't a cosplay.
It isn't even in character for the damn character.
For instance they did Yugiri from Zombie Land Saga and didn't even do like... traditional Japanese underwear or something. That is the character's whole thing.
I am sure people jerked it though so what do I know.

>> No.10164666

>>10164154
Yes because nobody has ever been oppressed for having straight hair

>> No.10164745

>>10163916
He's literally Santa's slave.

>> No.10164776

>>10164666
Mugabe

>> No.10164777

>>10164666
I love the black people act as though they are some kind of syndicate, if you offend one of them, you offend all of them.

>> No.10164779

>>10164666
Women have been oppressed, does that mean men can't wear skirts now? Are you choking on your own bullshit yet, or should I continue?

>> No.10164923

>>10162355
The reason they're so accepting of more general nerd shit is because cosplay is still pretty niche, despite jumps in popularity over the past decade.

>> No.10164925

>>10162369
>All jacked cosplay guys are whores
I'm just trying to do accurate cosplay Anon ;-; it's the same reason I don't cosplay guys that don't have my hair color. Sure, I don't have to rely on it and could use wigs and sure, I could use muscle suits instead of working out but that would feel so inauthentic...
In fairness though I see your point, I just have obscene fears of being judged to be not good enough to do a character.

>> No.10164928

Asian and White cosplayers get too much love for being mediocre. The average white or Asian cosplayer can out on a wig and a dress and receive an Emmy for costume design, but equally mediocre non-white and/or brown Asians are chased from conventions.

I say brown Asisns because people like to forget that Asian is not synonymous with Chinese/Korean/Japanese and many asians don't look like your fair skinned idols.

>> No.10164935

>>10164779
Hair and skin are natural attributes, skirts aren't. And men have worn skirts for thousands of years. The two really aren't comparable.

>> No.10164937

>>10164666
Uhhh Asian people???

>> No.10164947

>>10164937
Asian people have been oppressed and have straight hair, that is not the same thing as being oppressed for having straight hair. If a black person is oppressed for being black and also wears glasses, that doesn't mean they have been oppressed for wearing glasses. This is fairly basic logic.

>> No.10164956

>>10164928
>chased from conventions
Lmaaaooooo

>> No.10164981

>>10164935
Right, so black people should not assume the appearance of other races, in the same way other races are expected to not use 'blackface' (even though it is often out of admiration).

>> No.10164983

>>10164947
The point is, you racist dip-shit, there is more to a race than the colour of their skin.

>> No.10164987

>>10164666
Mugabe

>> No.10164990

>>10164935
So can people not be oppressed via the medium of clothing?

>> No.10165019

>>10147264
Honestly, I'm half with you here. A little chub on some characters is okay; after that, especially if the character doesn't wear much or is supposed to be 'alluring', that's a no-go.

>> No.10165058

>>10164648
ngl she could have gone so many interesting ways with this character in a boudoir...
god more than often i feel like quiting cosplay until the costhot trend ends but it will never end will it..

>> No.10165062

>>10165058
Right? Like a kimono with nothing on underneath would have at least been on theme and probably reasonably cheap.

>> No.10165324

>>10164983
I never said there wasn't, but the example I replied to was not apt. Traits like skin color, wide noses, pronounced epicanthic fold, etc. are heavily racialized, straight hair isn't because it's common in many races.
>>10164981
Yes, although a black person in "whiteface" doesn't have the same impact as a white person doing blackface because of the history behind the practice and the fact that black skin has been treated as bad and white skin as good for centuries if not millenia.
>>10164990
Depends, if you're talking about specific things like a burqa then yeah there's a stigma around that but it's a spectrum. And context makes a big difference, it's not going to be the same in the US and in Saudi Arabia for example.

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>>10147232
Bunny themed cosplays like pic related are trashy and don’t look good.

>> No.10166364

>>10166346
>that left bunny's butt
...know your strengths and weaknesses, people

>> No.10166373

>>10162395
What black characters? There's only so many and we can't all be Blade. Or can we...?

>>10166346
This is for Unpopular opinions. I'm pretty sure everyone shares this opinion.

For my part, I feel like Fat Lolitas are fine in the community. As long as they dress for their size and adhere to basic hygeine like everyone else I don't see any problem. So many people flip out because someone else loves cake too much. It's not a big deal and shitting your bloomers because someone else is big seems really pointless to me.
>in b4 fatty
I'm fat, but not obese and I dress well for my size. If you wanna shit on someone go harass those degenerates demanding feet pics.

>> No.10166375

>>10166373
the problem is that the fat lolitas, too often, don't dress for their size. they just stretch out the clothing. usually on cgl when you see people criticizing them, it's for the fit of their garments

>> No.10166419

>>10166364
the right's is just as bad...

>> No.10166437

>>10166346
Way to make your cosplay look cheap af by wearing shitty cotton tights with a control top or whatever that part is called

>> No.10166668

>>10153773
This. I actually don't care about the SJW opinions of it and I long to see darkened skin that looks good, but it always looks like someone rubbed walmart bronzer on their face after rolling in mud. There was a Korra that tanned her skin darker for cosplay and I think she looked pretty good, but I'm pretty sure she was half Mexican.

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>>10147298
Honestly, some people can pull it off really well, but I think it depends on the face shape.
>>10147302
The more (reasonable) liberties a person takes with a cosplay the better, but I adore wigs that try really hard to look like source material.
>>10147312
Imo a lot of the really amazing PoC cosplayers just arent shared around enough. People go viral for shit cosplays because if you pump out enough content your stats improve, and your photos are more likely to be seen. Buying cheap cosplays every week and pumping out content off that is a surefire way to succeed nowadays.
>>10150712
Sorry you have to go through that. I've seen it happen too when I was younger. Fujoshits 'shipping' irl people can genuinely destroy friendships, and forcefully out someone who may be questioning their sexuality. They honestly need to learn to keep their shit on the internet and be thots anonymously.

>> No.10166709

>>10162395
Just because the character is black doesn't mean I like them, anon. And that's if they aren't dressed like sluts, since ANY brown-skinned character in a series is usually wearing the least amount of clothes. I'm guessing to hit on the ~sexy savage~ or ~"I am to please" indian foreigner~ stereotype.

>> No.10166715

>>10166685
I'm weirdly ironically on the fence about this kind of thing - I'm a bi girl, and I've had friends 'ship' me with someone, and I HATED it because I was not out, especially to that crush. That made me really uncomfortable and I cut ties with the shipper. But I'm probably also what you could call a fujoshit if you were technical about it, and I don't give a shit what people want to ship in fandom. Just don't do it to your rl friends.

>> No.10166784

>>10166715
Do we live the same life? Same thing happened to me in middleschool. I had a crush on them hardcore, but they didn't like me back and it ruined the friendship.

>> No.10166879

Why are we even talking about this?

>> No.10167017

>>10166879
About what, there are like ten discussions going on at once

>> No.10167172

Cosplay in the US is in a boring state as everyone is more concerned with looking good than making something emotionally resonant. Hence why glamor shots dominate the online space.

Men need positive attention too in the space and majority of them are ignored

>> No.10167182

>>10167172
Couldn't agree with this more

>> No.10167188

>>10166709
Leave your safe space bubble sometime, anon. It’ll do you some good.

>> No.10167197

>>10167188
Are you retarded?

>> No.10167209

>>10166685
I think that even in this case something like contouring would be better than the lines. By part 5 the lines are a less prominent part of the art style anyway, having a lot of them is barely more accurate at that point

>> No.10167271

I feel like there’s much more of a pressure for women to be sexy in cosplay. There’s nothing wrong with doing sexy cosplay imo but it feels like you have to lewd it up for anyone to give a shit anymore.

>> No.10167280

>>10167271
True. I’m not even against sexy cosplay, but people legit only care if it’s sexy. I miss when there was more balance between sexy and regular cosplay.

>> No.10167296

>>10149827
Shit tier modeling with shit tier photography. Those same people pay for followers on their accounts. Makes me laugh every time I see follower numbers in the tens of thousands.

>> No.10167688

>>10167188
Come on anon, you're not 15 anymore.

>> No.10168117

Look like the character or don't cosplay at all.

>> No.10168251

>>10168117
the main issue with that is evening finding a character that looks like you. i mean i gave up on finding a character that looked me a long time ago because i couldnt find anything and just did what i felt like

>> No.10168283

>>10149827 If you're a dedicated enough cosplayer to have a cosplay social media page, you should be making cosplays instead of buying them.

I agree.
I remember thinking to myself, what exactly are they showing off? Their ability to take a credit card out of their purse?

I too also laugh in "I made this, what are you proud of? That you managed to put it on correctly? ok."

I gatekeep for actual skill in my head. I'd much rather talk to people who can DO something interesting rather than people who pretend they can.

>> No.10168489

>>10166685
People share the untalented hack PoC cosplayers because they're the one crying for oppression points and guilt tripping people into supporting them. The ones who are actually good at making costumes are above that bullshit because they don't have to compensate for their lack of skill with woke social media takes.

>> No.10168540

I judge the costumes of people who wear Handmaid’s Tale costumes to protest for being screen inaccurate.

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It annoys me when people edit their wigs like this, just spike it.

>> No.10168707

>>10168666
Just gonna ignore that little girls don’t wear lipstick, and say she didn’t even shoop her eyebrows to match the shooped wig. Peak lazy

>> No.10168768

>>10168251
Not that anon but I don't think they mean "has the same hair/eye color as you"
To me that's referring more to face and body shape. You can wear wigs and get contacts, but you shouldn't cosplay cute girls if you have a horse face and a lanky/curveless body, yknow?

>>10168666
What the fuck

>> No.10168773

>>10147325
Why do you consider the bar to entry for Lolita to be high. The simple basics are: 'don't be fat' and 'follow a few hard and fast guidelines'. Otherwise it's just common sense and a bit of coordination skill.

>> No.10168781

>>10154362
>>10149899
>the figure isn't c-canon source material!!1!
Stop virtue signaling, dumbfucks

>> No.10168782

>>10149827
Cosplay =/= costuming.

>> No.10169236

>>10168666
This is next level lazy, damn.

>> No.10170283

Cosplay needs to stop ignoring the performance elements and that whats holding it back

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Body suits with dimensions and details printed on (Especially when there are belts or pockets printed on the suit.) They are so ugly and they just look like a bunch of grown ass adults in shitty kid's Halloween costumes.

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>>10147232
You should prioritize cosplaying characters you actually somewhat look like. Literally every cosplay I have in the works is a character I already kinda look like, or one where I can conceal my face.

Also, if you have the physique of a fucking sack of potatoes. Don't wear skin tight/borderline lingerie cosplays.

>> No.10172789

>>10172764
>Also, if you have the physique of a fucking sack of potatoes. Don't wear skin tight/borderline lingerie cosplays.
Is this really an unpopular opinion? Huh.

>> No.10172791

>>10172789
Judging by how many of said sentient sacks of potatoes I saw at ACEN this weekend, apparently.

>> No.10172854

>>10147260
It's not, just laugh and ignore the sjw's. If the intent isn't to make fun of niggers then it's not a problem. People are just fairies nowadays

>> No.10172859

>>10167271
Correct, women use cosplay to act slutty and get attention and as a guy I like sexy looking girls. If you took the costhots out of the equation it would be fine, but women need people gawking over them to survive.

>> No.10172861

>>10172859
>so men use cosplay to act slutty and get attention

Yeah lmao, that’s the point of wearing barely any clothing and going to a huge con. That’s exactly what we do for attention. Wow, you really figured us out. Why are you upset again?

>> No.10172864

>>10172861
>*women

Gdi

>> No.10172888

>>10167271
>>10167280
>>10172859
I don't really agree, most of the female cosplays I saw at ACEN this weekend that stick out in my mind weren't lewd. Master Chef (Master Chief in a cooking apron) was a pretty good one. Sure lewds have their appeal, but at a point the chicks in pantyhose become white noise. Also saw a really awesome Booette cosplay that was beautiful and not at all lewd.

>> No.10176122

The cosplay community turned to shit after 2010. Cosplaying was way better back in 2009 and before.

>> No.10176124

>>10170283
I agree. I hate seeing complete innocent characters turned into junkies and sluts at every con.

>> No.10176127

>>10147232
This is a nice David Bowie cosplay

>> No.10176144

>>10172750
Not a fan of that aswell... many Samus's and D.va's wearing plain polyester

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>>10157392
>>10157392
I tried looking them up but all I could find was something about how 13% of the population is responsible for over 50% of violent crimes.

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